| 00:00 | <Chutt> | it _should_ be waiting until there's at least 3 frames in the buffer before displaying, but maybe there's a hole in that logic somehow |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | hey, for the editing stuff |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | does the label that shows up that says how big skips are |
| 00:01 | <Chutt> | all display on one line? |
| 00:02 | <mdz_> | lemme check |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | in particular the 0.5 seconds |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | guy says its splitting that up |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | and cutting off the bottom half of seconds |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | they're all on one line except for 0.5 seconds |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | which is cut off |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | i wonder why it's not for me |
| 00:03 | <mdz_> | it pretty much only says 0.5, and you can see only just the top of 'seconds' on the next line |
| 00:04 | <mdz_> | I understand the wrapping, but I don't see why it's cutting it off |
| 00:04 | <mdz_> | what font does it use for that, anyway? is it always the same size? |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | because it's told what rectangle to display in |
| 00:04 | <Chutt> | same font as the channel number, iirc |
| 00:05 | <mdz_> | that's not configurable, is it? so it should be the same size for me as for you |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | exactly |
| 00:05 | <Chutt> | hence the 'weird' =) |
| 00:06 | <mdz_> | my mythtv system is running testing |
| 00:06 | <mdz_> | so it probably has slightly different stuff |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | maybe a different libfreetype? |
| 00:06 | <Chutt> | can you change a line in the source and retest that please? |
| 00:07 | <mdz_> | ok |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp, line 2278 |
| 00:07 | <mdz_> | I'll mail you a list of the versions for the libs I have installed in case you get that info from the other guy |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | the rect.setLeft(video_width * 3 / 8); |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | try 5 / 16 |
| 00:07 | <Chutt> | instead |
| 00:09 | <mdz_> | ok |
| 00:13 | <mdz_> | that fixes it |
| 00:13 | <mdz_> | it's all on one line now |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | excellent |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 00:14 | <Chutt> | wow, someone actually asked about my indent style |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | heh, which one? |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | you do different things in different files |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | i do? |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | and in different parts of the same file sometimes |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | some of the stuff isn't my code originally |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | well, most of it isn't |
| 00:17 | <mdz_> | like XJ.cpp |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | yeah, none of that's mine |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | i've converted parts of it |
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| 00:18 | <Edgan> | Hello |
| 00:18 | <mdz_> | yeah, it's a mix |
| 00:18 | <Chutt> | all the stuff i wrote should be the same, though |
| 00:20 | <Edgan> | I just setup mythtv 0.7 and the audio to video sync is horrible. Is there anyway to fix that or is that unoffically on the todo list? |
| 00:20 | <Chutt> | question # 3 or 4 on the faq. |
| 00:20 | <mdz_> | but just read the whole thing |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | ah, it's #r |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | err, 4 |
| 00:22 | <Edgan> | Ahh, I thought that might be true, but wasn't sure how to get it to let me here what it was trying to playback |
| 00:22 | <Edgan> | Would be nice if the website faq and the package faq where the same or merged |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | feel like doing that? |
| 00:23 | <Chutt> | i don't like wasting time writing docs that noone bothers to read anyway |
| 00:23 | <mdz_> | it shouldn't be too hard to generate HTML from the FAQ in the tarball |
| 00:24 | <mdz_> | sounds like a good project for someone looking to contribute |
| 00:24 | <Chutt> | the faq on the website's some php/mysql thing |
| 00:25 | <Edgan> | I muted line in and set record in the mixer, but now I get no audio |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | the new xmltv release is packaged? |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | edgan, so, figure out how to get audio properly. |
| 00:26 | <mdz_> | Chutt: just uploaded it to unstable about 20 minutes ago |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | so it's not installed yet |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | or not to the mirror i'm using |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | it's in queue/accepted |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | aka incoming.debian.org |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | won't hit the mirrors until tomorrow |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | yeah, no worries |
| 00:27 | <mdz_> | but you can grab the deb from incoming.debian.org |
| 00:28 | <mdz_> | it works right with tvlistings2 again |
| 00:28 | <Chutt> | i like how everyone was all crying that zap2it was trying to change things so that xmltv wouldn't work |
| 00:29 | <mdz_> | oh, no it doesn't, they changed it to use tvlistings |
| 00:29 | <mdz_> | how weird |
| 00:29 | <mdz_> | is that what people were saying? |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | they probably changed it to tvlistings2 from tvlistings originally |
| 00:29 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:29 | <mdz_> | if they want to break xmltv, they are not trying very hard |
| 00:30 | <lichen_> | yeah deleting a couple 2's from the source wasn't difficult |
| 00:30 | <Chutt> | and it's xmltv's fault that it didn't follow the 302 redirect |
| 00:30 | <mdz_> | yeah, I thought that was weird |
| 00:30 | <lichen_> | why would they want to break xmltv though? i guess that means people aren't clicking on their stupid ads |
| 00:30 | <mdz_> | it has to _try_ not to follow 302s |
| 00:30 | <mdz_> | I go to their site sometimes and click on the ads |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | lichen, i doubt they care about xmltv :p |
| 00:31 | <mdz_> | as a show of support |
| 00:31 | <lichen_> | you can also get xmltv to grab the credits cant you? i wanna make it so myth can display the major actors |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | not tv_grab_na, no |
| 00:31 | <lichen_> | hahaha you're a good guy mdz |
| 00:31 | <lichen_> | oh really it cant? curses |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | that'd make it even slower |
| 00:32 | <lichen_> | yeah its quite a slow as it is :( |
| 00:32 | <mdz_> | it's fast on sunday night |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | one webpage per channel per day |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | zap2it says the new server should be much faster |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | on the webpage |
| 00:32 | <mdz_> | I ran it tonight to test the new xmltv before uploading it, and it went quite fast |
| 00:32 | <mdz_> | but then, it usually does during off-peak times |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | and apparently they're adding a bunch of fairly neat stuff |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | like the ability to combine listings, etc |
| 00:33 | <mdz_> | hmm |
| 00:33 | <mdz_> | combine into fewer pages? |
| 00:33 | <mdz_> | a week's worth maybe? :-) |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:33 | <Chutt> | well |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | i think that may be a function of the text view |
| 00:34 | <lichen_> | is there any particular reason zap2it is used over all the others out there? like tvguide or something? |
| 00:34 | <mdz_> | I spent some more time scratching my head over mencoder today |
| 00:34 | <Chutt> | wouldn't know |
| 00:35 | <mdz_> | trying to figure out why it doesn't work right with mythtv recordings |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | zap2it's the same source tivo and replaytv use, though |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | same parent company |
| 00:35 | <lichen_> | oh really?! now that i didn't know |
| 00:35 | <lichen_> | i figured tivo managed its own listings or something |
| 00:35 | <mdz_> | tivo has more data than tv_grab_na gives me, though |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | they get their data direct, of course =) |
| 00:35 | <mdz_> | or so I have heard |
| 00:35 | <lichen_> | hahah well yeah |
| 00:35 | <Chutt> | since, well, they pay for it |
| 00:36 | <mdz_> | the video buffer just fills up for no apparent reason |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | with mplayer? |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | with mencoder |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | mplayer works |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | though it doesn't sync |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | but mencoder, which just has to copy the stream and doesn't need to even decode it, fails |
| 00:37 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:37 | <mdz_> | and in weird ways |
| 00:37 | <lichen_> | oh hey with the mpeg4 codec? ist hat like true mpeg4? and what are the nuv files, is that some proprietary filetype with the video and audio encoded separately or what? |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | it's faux mpeg4 |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | it's like mpeg3.999 |
| 00:38 | <lichen_> | thats what i figured :( |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | yeah that's it |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | nuv is totally proprietary |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | patented |
| 00:38 | <mdz_> | Chutt pays royalties to IBM for it |
| 00:39 | <lichen_> | dang :( it would also be nice to make a util to format the nuv files into some format playable by some windows codec |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | it's mpeg4 |
| 00:39 | <Chutt> | should be decodeable by pretty much anything |
| 00:40 | <lichen_> | like just take the nuv file and have it be playable? isn't there like an mp3 audio track in it o rsomething? |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | well, no |
| 00:40 | <Chutt> | the file format isn't mp4 |
| 00:40 | <mdz_> | there is no mpeg-4 file format, is there? |
| 00:40 | <mdz_> | you can't have an mpeg-4 elementary stream or anything I don't think |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | yeah, there is |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | it's basically the qt format, though |
| 00:41 | <lichen_> | supposedly the new qt plays true mpeg4 |
| 00:41 | <lichen_> | yeah |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | all the file formats are just wrapper things, really |
| 00:41 | <Chutt> | they can encapsulate many types of video and audio |
| 00:42 | <mdz_> | except nuppelvideo |
| 00:42 | <mdz_> | which could only hold rtjpeg until you mutated it |
| 00:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:43 | <mdz_> | what action is a player supposed to take when it gets the S frame in a nuppelvideo stream? |
| 00:43 | <mdz_> | I'm not quite sure why mplayer doesn't sync the audio properly |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | well, if it's an S A frame |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | it's supposed to reset the effective dsp frequency to the value in there |
| 00:44 | <mdz_> | yeah, I can see that from the code :-) |
| 00:44 | <Chutt> | basically, compensating for what sampling rate the recorded actually recorded at in that second |
| 00:44 | <mdz_> | but what does the effective dsp frequency mean? how is it used? |
| 00:44 | <mdz_> | ah |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | well, if you ask for 44100 samples per second |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | you'll get 44030 |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | or whatever |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | and it changes constantly |
| 00:45 | <mdz_> | but each audio packet has a timecode too |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | right |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | the effective dsp just makes some calculations easier |
| 00:46 | <mdz_> | mplayer extracts the timecode data and feeds it into the spaghetti engine |
| 00:46 | <mdz_> | but it doesn't do anything with the S frames |
| 00:46 | <mdz_> | it seems like that should be enough though |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | well, it shouldn't have to |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | since the effdsp can be calculated from the timecodes |
| 00:46 | <mdz_> | that's what I thought |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | and the length of the buffers |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | does it use the timestamps of the video frames? |
| 00:47 | <mdz_> | then again, I've mostly played with it on this PC because it's where I do my development |
| 00:47 | <mdz_> | and it has an uber-shitty sound device |
| 00:47 | <mdz_> | yeah, it eats those up too |
| 00:47 | <mdz_> | I haven't figured out what it does with them yet |
| 00:47 | <mdz_> | it's a twisty maze of callbacks |
| 00:47 | <mdz_> | all alike |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | junk |
| 00:48 | <mdz_> | it does a better job with sync than any other player I've tried, though |
| 00:48 | <mdz_> | even if it's undecipherable |
| 00:49 | <mdz_> | really I don't much care whether it plays back nicely |
| 00:49 | <mdz_> | I'm more interested in using it for conversion |
| 00:49 | <mdz_> | which should be way easier |
| 00:49 | <mdz_> | but doesn't work |
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| 08:42 | <lichen_> | weird, i recorded a bunch of stuff, but like one movie came out with no audio while everyhting else was fine |
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| 09:34 | <fxfighte> | should GetFloatSetting in settings.cpp return defaultvalue always? or is this a bug? |
| 09:35 | <fxfighte> | i wanted to use a float value for the horizontal and vertical overscan percentage but had to use an int because of this (bug?) |
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| 10:41 | <lichen__> | hey you know something i would like to work on... mythweb... im actually quite decent at php and mysql |
| 10:42 | <fxfighte> | chut: there? |
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| 10:56 | <lichen__> | hey i dont know enough about how myth works, but if i put a record into any one of the record tables in the database, im guessing myth continually polls those to see if it needs to record? so like if its 3:15 and a program started at 3 and ends at 3:30, and i put in a record in the database for that program it would automatically start recording? |
| 11:11 | lichen_ | lichen__ Nov 25 12:22:43 <Chutt> heh |
| 12:22 | <Chutt> | fxfighte, now i am |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | yeah, that's a bug, but i'd rather use an integer for it, if you don't mind |
| 12:23 | <ntl|afk> | fxfighte: what is your problem about ... ok, chutt, you can do that :-) |
| 12:23 | <Chutt> | lichen, there's an entry in the settings database that gets changed whenever a program recording change has happened |
| 12:24 | <Chutt> | it polls that once a second, and yeah, it'll start in the middle if that's when you set it to record |
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| 12:35 | <fxfighte> | ok |
| 12:36 | <fxfighte> | its done then, let me send you the patch |
| 12:36 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 12:37 | <Chutt> | email it. |
| 12:38 | <fxfighte> | ok, whats your email? :) |
| 12:38 | <Chutt> | it's on the webpage |
| 12:43 | <fxfighte> | sent |
| 12:43 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 12:46 | <fxfighte> | np.. if there's anything you want changed just shoot, i put some more options (overscan, underscan and displacement possibilities) to help people adjust their output properly, dunno if thats what you had in mind |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | naw, that's cool |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | actually |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | can you make the two mode settings strings? |
| 12:47 | <Chutt> | just so it's a little more obvious |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | and have the settings default to 5 |
| 12:48 | <Chutt> | pretty minor, i'll do it if you don't want to =) |
| 12:52 | <fxfighte> | they default to 5 :) |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | value in the settings file is 0, though |
| 12:52 | <fxfighte> | actually, maybe not in the settings |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | right |
| 12:52 | <fxfighte> | yeah, sorry.. i meant the defaultvalue |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:52 | <Chutt> | just want to make things obvious to people is all |
| 12:53 | <fxfighte> | ok, ill do it |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | thanks |
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| 16:39 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | does this thing work as good as it looks ? |
| 16:39 | <lichen_> | it works well |
| 16:39 | <lichen_> | and its alwasy getting better |
| 16:40 | <lichen_> | its not bad for not having even eben around a year |
| 16:40 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | ? a year ? |
| 16:41 | <lichen_> | yeah its a measurement of time |
| 16:41 | <lichen_> | it has not even been around a year yet |
| 16:42 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | oh ok , I though you meant developement stopped for a year of something |
| 16:42 | <lichen_> | oh.. nope |
| 16:43 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | does it work with a BEV system ? |
| 16:43 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | (bell expressvu) |
| 16:44 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | for the program guide / program recording part |
| 16:45 | <Universe> | everything runs on a linux system |
| 16:46 | <Universe> | you can run the SQL server off of a different machine if you want |
| 16:46 | <Universe> | not thats just for holding programming guide and recording information |
| 16:46 | <Universe> | err but thats just |
| 16:47 | <Universe> | guess... and for a few other things... |
| 16:47 | <Universe> | err well, and for a few other things... |
| 16:48 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | I mean how does it know what program is on , it has to download guide information somewhere ? |
| 16:48 | <Universe> | yes |
| 16:48 | <Universe> | it uses XMLTV |
| 16:49 | <Universe> | http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmltv/ |
| 16:50 | <lichen_> | hey is it possible at all to write something to descramble the cable channels? like the old black boxes used to do? or does that have to be done in hardware? |
| 16:51 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | I heard of a bt848 program that could do that |
| 16:51 | <Universe> | thats way over my head lichen_ |
| 16:52 | <Universe> | not sure what it would take to program something like that |
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| 16:52 | <sefudier> | hi |
| 16:52 | <nevertheless> | hi |
| 16:52 | <sefudier> | sup :) |
| 16:53 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | how do I find if xmltv support my tv provider ? |
| 16:53 | <nevertheless> | where are you from? |
| 16:54 | <lichen_> | dj, go to www.zap2it.com |
| 16:54 | <lichen_> | if they support it, xmltv supports it |
| 16:54 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | canada , I'm on bell express vue |
| 16:54 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | ok 2sec I'll check |
| 16:57 | <lichen_> | i think im gonna do this assignment for one of my classes and then bang out some code for the mythweb :) |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | lichen, that'd be cool |
| 16:57 | <Universe> | Chutt... isn't Mythweb being worked on by someone else? |
| 16:58 | <lichen_> | well someone else started it, but isn't that opensource? multiple peopel contribute |
| 16:58 | <lichen_> | i dont see it being worked on, and im willing to do it... |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | thor is |
| 16:59 | <lichen_> | to be honest ive never really been a part of a project with like multiple people before... i'd liek to help if i could though, and i htink i could contribute to mythweb |
| 17:00 | <lichen_> | is it tracked through cvs? |
| 17:00 | <Universe> | lichen_... I wasn't saying that you couldn't... Go right ahead... I was just trying to inform you that someone else might be already working on it |
| 17:01 | <lichen_> | in the cvs tree the minimum age on the files is like 2 weeks |
| 17:02 | <lichen_> | actually thats more like 2 months, the only update 2 weeks ago was to the README |
| 17:05 | <sefudier> | chutt: sent you the email with the stuff fixed.. i had to go out so it took a while :) |
| 17:29 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | zap2it got my tv guide so it's gonna work with mythtv ? |
| 17:29 | <nevertheless> | yepp |
| 17:29 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | sweet |
| 17:30 | <nevertheless> | but even if it would not support your tv, there may be ways to get mythtv working right |
| 17:31 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | can mythtv send IR signals to the sat reveiver to make it change channel ? |
| 17:31 | <lichen_> | yeah there is supposed for that too |
| 17:31 | <lichen_> | s/supposed/support/ |
| 17:31 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | s/reveiver/receiver |
| 17:31 | <lichen_> | hahah |
| 17:39 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | is it possible to use a tv in that comes with video cards ? (nvidia based , MSI) |
| 17:39 | <lichen_> | it just has to be supported by the video4linux api |
| 17:40 | <lichen_> | the bt848 works like a charm though |
| 17:40 | <lichen_> | the trickiest part is tvout |
| 17:40 | <lichen_> | unless you have an external scan converter |
| 17:41 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | I got one but ati tv outs look simple to use |
| 17:44 | <lichen_> | actually im not positive how well ati is supported |
| 17:44 | <mdz> | [DJ][DJ]HaCK-: if you think it looks simple, you clearly haven't tried it yet :-) |
| 17:46 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | I got a couple of different brands to try , like the nvidia if you don't connect a monitor to it but only a TV , it will set to TV mode , even in bios it's on the tv |
| 17:48 | <lichen_> | what i dont get is how everyone talks about xv, but the xv section in the xf86 manual is like totally undocumented |
| 17:48 | <lichen_> | because i think i should be able to do it with my card so i can actually use tvout on my g400 |
| 17:51 | <nevertheless> | today i upgradet my g400 with a g550, so i can put the g400 in the mythtv box, but Im totally disappointed |
| 17:51 | <mdz> | [DJ][DJ]HaCK-: that's fine until you need to switch modes so you can use X |
| 17:51 | <lichen_> | nevertheless, what were you planning on doing with it? |
| 17:51 | <nevertheless> | with the g550? |
| 17:51 | <lichen_> | you can get drives for it off matrox's site, along with powerdesk.. which is pretty nifty |
| 17:51 | <lichen_> | well with hte g400 in the myth box |
| 17:52 | <nevertheless> | im running dualhead and AA in kde |
| 17:52 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | g550 is that the new parphelia card ? |
| 17:52 | <lichen_> | were you gonna use it for hte tv out? |
| 17:52 | <nevertheless> | hmm, getting tvout to work maybe :-) |
| 17:52 | <lichen_> | cause i have the tv hooked up to the second head |
| 17:52 | <nevertheless> | [DJ][DJ]HaCK-: nope |
| 17:52 | <lichen_> | running in clone mode |
| 17:52 | <lichen_> | and everything works except for xv, like i see the myth main menu and everything on the tv... but no video works |
| 17:52 | <nevertheless> | Im just installing gentoo on my new system (the new mythtv box) |
| 17:53 | <nevertheless> | yeah, thats the matrox stuff, maybe we can teach mythtv some other stuff, |
| 17:53 | <nevertheless> | but before this, i have tu get my system running |
| 17:54 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | nevertheless have you made a ebuild for it ? I installed gentoo too so I'll need one anyway |
| 17:54 | <nevertheless> | nope, I never did that |
| 17:54 | <nevertheless> | so I will not start with smth complex like mythtv |
| 17:55 | <nevertheless> | but its quite easy without the ebuild |
| 17:55 | <lichen_> | im curious about gentoo, the first tmie i ever installed debian was for myth about a week ago, i love it... and ive used slackware all my life |
| 17:55 | <nevertheless> | you only have to fight with xmltv |
| 17:55 | <nevertheless> | I gonna install debian on my internet router |
| 17:55 | <lichen_> | and fortunately ive had a super easy time with xmltv |
| 17:55 | <nevertheless> | :-) |
| 17:56 | <nevertheless> | there is a big bug in the gentoo perl stuff, that was my problem |
| 17:56 | <lichen_> | yeah ive got slack on like 4 of my machines |
| 17:56 | <lichen_> | ohhh |
| 17:56 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | yeah I know but I just finished installing gentoo so I don't want to pollute my system if something goes wrong :\ so I think I'll find out how to make a ebuild |
| 17:57 | <lichen_> | what is an ebuild? gentoo's package dealy? |
| 17:57 | <nevertheless> | unfortunatly mythtv doesnt support the install-prefix... so you can't install it into a specific dir |
| 17:57 | <nevertheless> | lichen_ yes |
| 17:58 | <nevertheless> | its smth like a compile script |
| 17:59 | <lichen_> | just use debian it already has all the packages made along with their dependencies, and no perl problems! :) |
| 17:59 | <Universe> | Hack... |
| 17:59 | <nevertheless> | yeah, i know, but you have no optimisations |
| 18:00 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | ? |
| 18:00 | <Universe> | I am running gentoo and installed it... its easy to clean your system of the mythtv files |
| 18:00 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | make uninstall in the source dir ? |
| 18:00 | <nevertheless> | you mean with make uninstall" |
| 18:00 | <nevertheless> | ? |
| 18:00 | <Universe> | not sure.. never used that... |
| 18:01 | <Universe> | not sure if myth has that setup |
| 18:01 | <nevertheless> | so how do mean "easy to clean..." |
| 18:01 | <nevertheless> | it has |
| 18:01 | <Universe> | delete the files manually |
| 18:01 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | yeah but that means you have to track the files |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | it'll install to whatever prefix you set in settings.pro. |
| 18:02 | <[DJ]HaCK-> | if you use the packaging system you type emerge unmerge mythtv and it's gone |
| 18:02 | <nevertheless> | oh :-) |
| 18:05 | <sefudier> | cant believe you'll go through the effort of learning how to make ebuilds over having some loose files somewhere |
| 18:05 | <sefudier> | what harm can they do? :) |
| 18:11 | <Universe> | well Hack.. in the process, you will have to create a XMLTV ebuild... |
| 18:11 | <Universe> | and also an ebuild for all the XMLTV dependencies |
| 18:12 | <sefudier> | xmltv sucks :) |
| 18:12 | <sefudier> | i mean, their grabber thing |
| 18:13 | <Universe> | and figure out a way for the ebuild to check to see if you have compile QT using USE=mysql |
| 18:13 | <sefudier> | you can easily build a python grabber without any further dependency, oposed to its 10000 perl dependencies (tv_grab*) |
| 18:17 | <lichen_> | hahah as myth comes along im sure xmltv will be replaced though |
| 18:17 | <lichen_> | to be able to set it all up within myth itself |
| 18:17 | <mdz> | sefudier: a lot of that stuff is in the python standard library, but a lot is in add-on-modules |
| 18:17 | <mdz> | sefudier: like the XML stuff |
| 18:20 | <Chutt> | why would i replace xmltv? |
| 18:21 | <lichen_> | you dont think someone is going to get sick of it and rewrite it? .. i mean i guess it gets the job done for the time being, i just didn't see it being used long term... i guess you would know better than i would though :-/ |
| 18:21 | <Chutt> | what's there to get sick of? |
| 18:22 | <lichen_> | hah well you always see people complaining about it, i personally had an easy time, but i could just see someone doing it in something other than perl, perhaps easier to use, more configurable, and supporting more than just zap2it (which xmltv might.. i haven't looked into it terribly much) |
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| 21:02 | <mdz_> | hey, a bug report with details and analysis on the mailing list |
| 21:02 | <mdz_> | how about that |
| 21:48 | <lichen_> | weird, there is this one video i recorded and it always segfaults myth whne it gets to the end of it |
| 21:54 | <lichen_> | i made an strace leading up to the sigsegv, all it is is me loading up myth, picking acertain video, fast forwarding to the end, and it segfaulting |
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| 22:08 | <mdz_> | GUI problemming sucks |
| 22:08 | <mdz_> | programming |
| 22:09 | <mdz_> | lichen_: I believe that is a known bug; you are running 0.7 yes? |
| 22:13 | <lichen_> | yes |
| 22:13 | <lichen_> | i was just gonna get the latest cvs |
| 22:13 | <lichen_> | unfortunately im not a cvs master :( |
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| 22:19 | <Chutt> | mdz, details, analysis, and most likely related directly to the not-seeking problem you found =) |
| 22:30 | <mdz_> | Chutt: yep, looks like it |
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| 22:43 | <lichen_> | hmm, my qmake.conf is in /usr/share/qt .. |
| 22:43 | <lichen_> | should i jsut edit the makefile? |
| 22:43 | <lichen_> | er QTDIR actually, i guess thats why its a variable ;) nevermind |
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| 23:02 | <Echo465> | i am sad now. i accidentally killed the motherboard that my mythtv system was using. |
| 23:11 | <lichen_> | man, i got the latest cvs and compiled and installed it after removing the debian package of 0.7 and now it says couldn't open db, Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy when i run mythfrontend |
| 23:11 | <Echo465> | is mysql running? |
| 23:12 | <lichen_> | yes... and the socket file is in /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 23:13 | <Echo465> | have you asked google yet? |
| 23:14 | <lichen_> | i kinda doubt google has many answers on the operation of mythfrontend :) |
| 23:14 | <Echo465> | true, but it does index the mailing list archives. |
| 23:15 | <lichen_> | it would be nice if the archives had their own search |
| 23:23 | <Echo465> | mmmm.. Athlon 2100's down to $87. |
| 23:28 | <lichen_> | whoa 0.8 is cool, and it fixed my bug too |
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| 23:48 | <Edgan> | I wonder how long till a 333 bus athlon is at a reasonable price |
| 23:49 | <Edgan> | lichen_: 0.8 on in cvs for now? |
| 23:52 | <Echo465> | anyone know of any motherboard with onboard tv-out? |
