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| 00:58 | <Markie> | i need to go to sleep |
| 01:02 | <hadees> | so you think two 600mhz processor system wouldn't be enough to record and watch live tv |
| 01:03 | <brtb> | at 352x240, easy |
| 01:04 | <brtb> | might handle 480x480, i'm not really sure how the dual-processor factor would work |
| 01:04 | <hadees> | thats what i am trying to figure out |
| 01:04 | <brtb> | only way to be sure, try it |
| 01:05 | <hadees> | well thats what i am going to do |
| 01:05 | <hadees> | two 600mhz at 133mhz |
| 01:05 | <hadees> | and alot of ram |
| 01:05 | <brtb> | if i had to guess i'd think linux would put the two high-cpu threads on different processors but i really have no idea how that works |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | just spend the $100 to buy a modern cpu. |
| 01:05 | <hadees> | beacause i need a motherboard to go with it |
| 01:05 | <Chutt> | that was included in the $100 |
| 01:06 | <hadees> | i don't know, i just like to recycle |
| 01:06 | <hadees> | i have one chip |
| 01:06 | <brtb> | umm unless they've changed it, you'd have to find the exact same chip (stepping and everything) |
| 01:07 | <brtb> | and intel chips are of course somewhat expensive too |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | heh, somewhat? |
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| 01:08 | <brtb> | i was trying to be diplomatic |
| 01:08 | <brtb> | lol |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | a 1700+ is now $52 on pricewatch |
| 01:08 | <brtb> | when you can get an amd XP 1600+ for $57 and a p3-1ghz is $112... yah whatever |
| 01:08 | <Chutt> | a p3-733 is $87 |
| 01:09 | <brtb> | 52? pretty good... i just grabbed those prices from newegg |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | newegg's probably a better place to get em from |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | prices that is |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | pricewatch was faster, is all =) |
| 01:09 | <Tuscany> | hey chutt, do you use any athlon optimization flags for CXXFLAGS in settings.pro |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | no, i don't |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | it'd help, i imagine |
| 01:10 | <Tuscany> | i've compiled with athlon-xp. doesn't seem to make much of a difference with pentium-pro |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | there's more stuff to turn on |
| 01:14 | <Markie> | what's up with this qApp class ? |
| 01:14 | <Markie> | i'm triyng to figre out how when you choose "Watch a Recording" |
| 01:15 | <Markie> | and then your in the list of recordins, how if you hit escape, it kills the window |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | that's normal qdialog behavior |
| 01:15 | <Markie> | ohhh |
| 01:15 | <Markie> | so you're not doing anything special |
| 01:16 | <Markie> | how would you unmap/kill the window manually ? |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | call accept() |
| 01:17 | <Markie> | how about done() |
| 01:17 | <brtb> | hrm, slack's 2.95.3 only goes up to ppro optimization... so much for that idea |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | or that |
| 01:17 | <brtb> | gcc 2.95.3 that is |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | brtb, yeah, that's a gcc3 feature |
| 01:18 | <Markie> | thanks |
| 01:18 | <Markie> | i'm soo close to being done..i wanna finish, but i need sleep too! |
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| 01:37 | <Markie> | Chutt, i only need to increment menufiles when i add a new menu ,right? i dont push anything on when i do a dialog, yes? |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | increment menufiles? |
| 01:38 | <Markie> | vector<QString> menufiles; |
| 01:38 | <Markie> | in themedmenu |
| 01:38 | <Markie> | dont worry..i'll figure itout |
| 01:39 | <Markie> | i got something screwey with the menu levels..you gotta hit escape a lot of times to get out |
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| 03:12 | <trostler> | hey so does it work? |
| 03:14 | <trostler> | help topic |
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| 11:00 | <lichen> | arg, it figures that the kernel doesn't directly include support for the rainbow runner |
| 11:05 | <lichen> | Watching a (wrongly-coloured, green) TV picture with xawtv. (See G400 mem config document) |
| 11:05 | <lichen> | MJPEG support is unknown. |
| 11:05 | <lichen> | ... apparently thats the available support for my card/tuner |
| 11:05 | <lichen> | sigh |
| 11:37 | <mdz> | my word, people on the mailing list are bitter about installing mythtv |
| 11:37 | <mdz> | plz stpo makign ti hrad on purpoas ok!!! lol |
| 11:38 | <nevertheless> | it is just a fight with xmltv, but mythtv went right away installing |
| 11:42 | <nevertheless> | today really is not my day... first i typed my root-passwd to another irc channel, then i resent Chutt a patch just before i realized it was reversed and additionally the wrong one (it hat more stuff then i wanted to commit) ARG |
| 11:44 | <mdz> | I didn't find xmltv difficult from CPAN |
| 11:44 | <mdz> | and now there are Debian packages, so it is completely trivial |
| 11:45 | <nevertheless> | there are gentoo-ebuilds for the xmltv inxludes, but it took some time, until i realized, that there was an error in the install scripts of those, so it took some time :-) |
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| 12:16 | <Chutt> | blah |
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| 12:45 | <hadees> | so since no one is talking and i am looking at building a system, what kind of set ups do you guys have with mythtv? |
| 12:46 | <nevertheless> | this really is a much asked question :-) |
| 12:46 | <Chutt> | i've got most of that on the website |
| 12:48 | <nevertheless> | im currently running it (more testing it) on my tbird 800, but Im on my way for a xp 2000+, hope this will be enough :-) |
| 12:50 | <hadees> | i am bored |
| 12:50 | <hadees> | you know what mythtv should have a wiki site like freevo has |
| 12:50 | <hadees> | then people could just put thier system specs on it |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | i don't like wikis |
| 12:50 | <nevertheless> | whats a "wiki"? |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | webpage that anyone can change |
| 12:51 | <hadees> | they work, and i think you can always change back the stuff if some one is a A-hole and |
| 12:51 | <hadees> | screws it up |
| 12:51 | <nevertheless> | uah |
| 12:52 | <hadees> | i have a dev question about mythtv actully, why hasn't dvd been linked in like mythgames and mythmusic? |
| 12:53 | <hadees> | legal reasons? |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 12:53 | <Chutt> | i have a hardware dvd player, so i use that |
| 12:53 | <zytah> | :P |
| 12:53 | <hadees> | i know but having the computer do it has added benifit like you can make the dvd player region O |
| 12:54 | <hadees> | i know you can link DVD in, just seems odd that there is a Mythgame before a mythdvd |
| 12:55 | <nevertheless> | i thought i read smth about quitting mythfrontend, but i cannot find it, so how can I quit it? |
| 12:55 | <Chutt> | alt-f4 generally works |
| 12:56 | <nevertheless> | hmmm, alt-f4 unfortunatly does nothing |
| 12:56 | <Chutt> | then no, you can't |
| 12:56 | <nevertheless> | :-) |
| 12:57 | <nevertheless> | did you ever think about adding a possibility to shut down the computer from mythepg? because when i have a dedicated mythtv box i really would like to have such a feature |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 12:57 | <Chutt> | i don't shut my computers down, so |
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| 12:59 | <nevertheless> | hmm, here in germany the power is quite expensive, so i have to, but i thought about adding a feature, which uses nvram-wakeup to check the next recording and set the bios wakeuptime to the next recordingtime upon powerdown |
| 13:00 | <hadees> | pcs don't use up that much power, how ever did you know that a tv uses 25% of its power while off |
| 13:00 | <hadees> | waiting for you to turn it on |
| 13:00 | <nevertheless> | yeah, i know, but i don't have a tv ;-) |
| 13:01 | <hadees> | so why do you need mythtv, you watch all this stuff on a computer monitor? |
| 13:01 | <hadees> | crazy |
| 13:03 | <nevertheless> | yeah, maybe there comes a tv, if i have mythtv running on my box, but im using a dedicated monitor for that, which is only used for mythtv (or which will... since the box didn't arrrive yet) |
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| 13:42 | <mdz> | nevertheless: wouldn't you rather have it suspended than turned off? |
| 13:44 | <nevertheless> | why? |
| 13:45 | <nevertheless> | i never used apm/acpi under linux, so i don't know, how good that works |
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| 14:02 | <mdz> | nevertheless: because when you want to use it again, it doesn't have to boot |
| 14:02 | <mdz> | nevertheless: and if ACPI works well on your system, it can suspend to RAM and use very little power |
| 14:02 | <nevertheless> | does this stuff work right with linux? |
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| 14:48 | <mdz> | nevertheless: it depends on the hardware |
| 14:48 | <mdz> | and the BIOS |
| 14:49 | <nevertheless> | yeah, with windows all that worked for me (with my current setup) but for the linux side I never heard smth positiv |
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| 14:57 | <mdz> | the ACPI stuff in 2.4.latest is usually old, you need the ACPI patch from sourceforge |
| 14:57 | <nevertheless> | good to know |
| 14:57 | <mdz> | I have my mythtv box to the point where the power button works to initiate a shutdown |
| 14:58 | <mdz> | and some of the sleep modes work |
| 14:58 | <nevertheless> | some? i only know suspend to disk and suspend to ram... any others? |
| 14:59 | <mdz> | there are S0 through S5 |
| 15:00 | <mdz> | various levels of power consumption |
| 15:01 | <nevertheless> | hmmm, s0 is on, s5 is off, the don't count ;-) |
| 15:03 | <nevertheless> | if they'll work on my new system, they WILL be an alternative |
| 15:08 | <mdz> | there are also the CPU throttling modes |
| 15:08 | <mdz> | and the performance threshold stuff |
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| 15:56 | <Chutt> | hum |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | wonder what the problem with mythmusic is |
| 16:00 | <Chutt> | probably the guy doesn't have any id3 tags or whatnot |
| 16:11 | <mdz> | maybe you should remove the mp3 support :-P |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | naw, i'll leave it in for someone to ix |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | fix |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | of course, the likelyhood of that is, well, tiny |
| 16:17 | <Chutt> | but, hey, that's what open source is all about =) |
| 16:33 | <mdz> | hmm, another dead-looking wintv-pvr driver project |
| 16:33 | <mdz> | this one for the USB |
| 16:33 | <mdz> | http://pvrusb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | already saw that one |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | remember the guy that was asking about that awhile ago? =) |
| 16:34 | <mdz> | nope |
| 16:34 | <mdz> | gets lost in the sea of other requests for hardware advice |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | in here |
| 16:35 | <mdz> | I spent weeks researching hardware support before I built my box, and some things still went wrong :-) |
| 16:35 | <mdz> | everybody wants a free ride |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 17:01 | <nevertheless> | LOOL this is from the gentoo-forums: |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | subject: mythtv doesn't work |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | bash-2.05a# mythtv |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | Couldn't open database |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | QSqlQuery::exec: database not open |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | QSqlQuery::exec: database not open |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | ERROR opening file '/mnt/store/ringbuf.nuv' in ThreadedFileWriter. |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | Cannot open DSP '', dying. |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | Could not detect audio blocksize |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | Segmentation fault |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | bash-2.05a# |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | I have all deps installed, and i added mysql to USE and rebuilt qt, |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | i can't even make sense of all those mesages. Also, when i start it no sound is playing. |
| 17:02 | <nevertheless> | people can't even read |
| 17:04 | <Universe> | lol |
| 17:04 | <Universe> | that is sad |
| 17:04 | <nevertheless> | hi did not get an answer, btw |
| 17:08 | <Universe> | hmm... that guys has posted 562 times! |
| 17:09 | <nevertheless> | but, on the other hand, when I look at the things that went wrong for me today, i could post smth like that, too (chutt: sorry for the patch ;-) |
| 17:22 | <mdz> | who are all these people buying VIA C3 chips? |
| 17:25 | <nevertheless> | what is the problem with em? |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | because they're stupid |
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| 17:32 | <Universe> | oh... that VIAs website says it "Cool Processing"... |
| 17:32 | <Universe> | heh.. |
| 17:32 | <Universe> | err that/but VIAs |
| 17:35 | <mdz> | buying a one-off low-power-consumption CPU for use in video capture sounds like the worst idea |
| 17:35 | <mdz> | like using a laptop |
| 17:36 | <nevertheless> | yeah, thats right, but for a laptop those c3 are nice |
| 17:36 | <Chutt> | ok, i can't respond to the most recent post to the mailing list without being too sarcastic |
| 17:37 | <nevertheless> | uhm |
| 17:37 | <mdz> | time to add an 'illegal instruction' entry to the FAQ |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | no |
| 17:37 | <Chutt> | the 'zap2it is down' repost |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | like, that already came up _today_ |
| 17:38 | <nevertheless> | the one who wants to build his own app around stuff, but is not a programmer? |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | steven fisher |
| 17:38 | <Chutt> | or whatever |
| 17:38 | <nevertheless> | right |
| 17:40 | <Universe> | wow... this months mailing list archive is already 1 meg... |
| 17:44 | <mdz> | Chutt: mind if I commit a couple of FAQ changes, and a comment at the top of filter_linearblend.c explaining about MMX? |
| 17:44 | <Chutt> | go for it |
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| 17:54 | <mdz> | who wants to answer the question about whether mythtv can be used to stream over the web? |
| 17:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:59 | <Universe> | and a quote "<Chutt> go for it" |
| 17:59 | <Chutt> | i'm just ignoring most feature requests like that |
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| 18:00 | <nevertheless> | you would call that a feature request? |
| 18:01 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 18:01 | <nevertheless> | btw, may i ask you, how old you are, and what you do besides mythtv? |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | i'm 24, and i write code for a living |
| 18:02 | <nevertheless> | hehe, I'm 24, too :-) |
| 18:07 | <Universe> | I am 24 too and I am just starting to learn out to program :-( |
| 18:07 | <Universe> | err out/how to |
| 18:08 | <nevertheless> | Im programming the last maybe 10 years, but I never got too deep into stuff... |
| 18:09 | <Universe> | well.... I have programmed in VB, basic, and Pascel but nothing major. |
| 18:09 | <nevertheless> | my most intense c program was a small mt webserver we should program for university |
| 18:10 | <nevertheless> | i program java (bah!) at work |
| 18:10 | <Universe> | my biggest program was a pascal single player very small mud. |
| 18:13 | <Universe> | I know... not so impressive |
| 18:13 | <nevertheless> | impressive is what chutt and the others did :-) |
| 18:13 | <Universe> | very true.. |
| 18:16 | <Universe> | but I figure I am still young and programming is something I like to do... so why not... it was that or a like as a support person.. |
| 18:17 | * Universe | notes that he doesn't like being a support person.. |
| 18:17 | <nevertheless> | support person? somebody answering phone calls? |
| 18:18 | <Universe> | I am do that... |
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| 22:44 | <_shad> | Yoyoyo. :) |
| 22:47 | <_shad> | Nobody alive? |
| 22:51 | <\dmz> | .. |
| 22:51 | <_shad> | :) |
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| 23:28 | <lichen_> | uh oh, problem while doing apt-get install mythtv... while setting up mythtv it gives a perl error while connecting to the database |
| 23:29 | <lichen_> | it looks to me because its lokoing for the socketin the wrong place, its looking for /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock but its not there |
| 23:33 | <Nothingman> | anyone here know why I can't start mysqld? |
| 23:34 | <lichen_> | using my psychic powers i will determine exactly the reason.. one second.. |
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| 23:37 | <Nothingman> | very cute |
| 23:37 | <Nothingman> | it gives me this |
| 23:37 | <Nothingman> | Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql |
| 23:37 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 mysqld ended |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | the error log contains this: |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 mysqld started |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission denied |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 Do you already have another mysqld server running on socket: /v |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | ar/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ? |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 Aborting |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown Complete |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | 021121 23:31:25 mysqld ende |
| 23:38 | <Nothingman> | that last word is "ended" |
| 23:39 | <Nothingman> | can I just touch it? |
| 23:39 | <Nothingman> | that is |
| 23:39 | <Nothingman> | can I just touch /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock? |
| 23:39 | <lichen_> | im guessing it doesn't exist? |
| 23:40 | <Nothingman> | nope |
| 23:41 | <lichen_> | what user are you trying to start this daemon as? |
| 23:41 | <lichen_> | cause it cant bind to a socket below 1024 if you aren't root |
| 23:41 | <Nothingman> | OK |
| 23:41 | <Nothingman> | I was root |
| 23:44 | <Nothingman> | any other suggestions? |
| 23:44 | <Kuwanger> | Don't do that? |
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