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| 00:21 | <mirk_dt> | Chutt: you around? |
| 00:22 | <mirk_dt> | fwiw, I remember having the same "stretched video" problem with mplayer. |
| 00:22 | <mirk_dt> | I had to pass some parameters to mplayer to get the aspect ratio right. |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:38 | <Chutt> | remember what those parameters were? |
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| 00:44 | <mirk_dt> | nope. |
| 00:44 | <mirk_dt> | I was just looking for them. |
| 00:45 | <mirk_dt> | I'm pretty sure this problem is specific to my ATI card / drivers, though. |
| 00:45 | <mirk_dt> | I think I remember seeing some posts about it or something. |
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| 00:45 | <kaveh420> | anyone here? |
| 00:45 | <mirk_dt> | ATI rage 128 |
| 00:45 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 00:45 | <mirk_dt> | heh |
| 00:46 | <kaveh420> | hey what do you guys run with mythtv? can anyone recommend a KDE alternative? |
| 00:46 | <kaveh420> | more basic use less resources |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | fvwm works |
| 00:47 | <kaveh420> | thanks |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | you could try twm |
| 00:47 | <kaveh420> | i finally got myth recording and playing back the audio right |
| 00:47 | <kaveh420> | :) |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | cool. |
| 00:47 | <kaveh420> | whates the difference? between twm an d fvwm |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | twm's much more basic |
| 00:48 | <kaveh420> | and how do you specify it to load instead of KDE when X starts? |
| 00:48 | <Chutt> | depends |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | either edit .xinitrc or .xserverrc |
| 00:50 | <kaveh420> | are they under /etc/X11? |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | in your homedir |
| 00:52 | <kaveh420> | thanks |
| 00:53 | <kaveh420> | i'm having trouble with the su command why can't i su to the root? |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | wouldn't know. |
| 00:53 | <kaveh420> | ok brb |
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| 00:56 | <kaveh420> | i couldn't find those config files in my home directory |
| 00:57 | <Chutt> | you'll have to create them |
| 00:58 | <kaveh420> | so what is the syntax for the setting? |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | you should really read the xfree docs, or whatnot |
| 00:59 | <kaveh420> | ok |
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| 01:03 | <kaveh420> | ok thanks, brb |
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| 01:09 | <mirk_dt> | Chutt: found the option for mplayer! |
| 01:09 | <mirk_dt> | -vo x11 |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | well, that won't work with mythtv =) |
| 01:09 | <Chutt> | since it currently only outputs using xv |
| 01:10 | <mirk_dt> | hmpf. |
| 01:10 | <mirk_dt> | did you write mythtv? |
| 01:10 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 01:10 | <mirk_dt> | it might be worth a note in the FAQ that the Rage128 has this problem. |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | i don't have any hardware stuff in the faq, i don't think |
| 01:11 | <mirk_dt> | btw. cool piece of software. :-) |
| 01:12 | <mirk_dt> | ahh, well this is not a problem. I was just checking out mythtv to see if I could get it to work before buying a new computer to run it. |
| 01:12 | <mirk_dt> | I'm going to get a Matrox G400 this weekend. |
| 01:14 | <mirk_dt> | well, gotta work tomorrow. good night. |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | 'nite. |
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| 01:15 | <Chutt> | hrmph |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | how to deal with the guy that wants to tell me how to design UIs |
| 01:27 | <bigguy> | you want to kick him in the jewels |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | hey bigguy. |
| 01:30 | <bigguy> | sup |
| 01:30 | <bigguy> | hmm |
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| 02:04 | <Soopaman> | Chutt, what was that ui guy saying? |
| 02:04 | <Soopaman> | (hopefully it wasn't me :P ) |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | whining about the delete and playback functions being separated |
| 02:05 | <Soopaman> | heheh |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | two separate menu entries, different information in the dialogs |
| 02:06 | <Soopaman> | did he give you some code as a solution to the "problem" he fond? |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | someone did, i rejected it :p |
| 02:06 | <Soopaman> | hahahah |
| 02:06 | <Soopaman> | anu reason why? |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | it makes more sense to me the way it is |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | when you're selecting something to play back, you don't need to know how big the file is |
| 02:06 | <Soopaman> | logically, or ui wise? |
| 02:06 | <Chutt> | or how much room is left to record with |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | so showing that information just clutters the ui |
| 02:07 | <Soopaman> | that is true... but it would look cool, but it isn't a requirement |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | its all shown in the delete ui, though |
| 02:07 | <Soopaman> | well that makes sense |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | right |
| 02:07 | <Soopaman> | you are more than likely deleting to free up space to record with |
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| 02:08 | <bigguy> | maybe you could make it an option to settings.txt |
| 02:08 | <Chutt> | nope =) |
| 02:08 | <bigguy> | k |
| 02:08 | <Soopaman> | but i can see the ease thing if you wanted to completely make a module out of that |
| 02:08 | <Soopaman> | hahahah |
| 02:08 | <Soopaman> | stubborn chutt |
| 02:08 | <Soopaman> | you sure are funny |
| 02:08 | <Chutt> | the UI would need to be changed, really |
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| 02:09 | * bigguy | is building a machine for myth |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | bigguy, have you ever run it? you've been on the mailing list forever |
| 02:09 | <bigguy> | I gotta wait on my 1u copper hsf tho |
| 02:09 | <bigguy> | Chutt: nope |
| 02:09 | <Soopaman> | nor have i |
| 02:10 | <Soopaman> | i am crazy though |
| 02:10 | <bigguy> | while I was in Alabama I had no means to get linux after my hdd crashed |
| 02:10 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 02:10 | <bigguy> | don't have access to a constant connection |
| 02:10 | <bigguy> | but I am back now |
| 02:11 | <bigguy> | need to find a job and get my cousin to use his cable bandwidth for the greater good |
| 02:11 | <bigguy> | instead of all porn all the time ;) |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:11 | <Soopaman> | lol |
| 02:12 | <bigguy> | but for some reason this machine is running about 15 deg C cooler since the move |
| 02:12 | <bigguy> | of course the temp probe on the abit boards are badly off |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | mine was 10C too hot when i first got it, they put out a new bios version just to drop the reported temperature |
| 02:13 | <bigguy> | I got the bios |
| 02:13 | <bigguy> | but it didn't change for me |
| 02:14 | <bigguy> | I had to use a digital temp probe to calibrate MBM |
| 02:15 | <bigguy> | I noticed you said one of your cards allows you to get the audio directly from it. Which card was that? |
| 02:16 | <Chutt> | hauppauge wintv-radio |
| 02:16 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 02:16 | <bigguy> | wonder if my wintv-go or stb bt848 based card would allow that |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | i think it may be 878 only |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | and it depends on how they hooked things up on the card |
| 02:17 | <bigguy> | perfect housing for a mythtv machine http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=527499 |
| 02:17 | <Soopaman> | yeah that was a cool mod |
| 02:18 | <bigguy> | hardforums and pheatonforums are the best |
| 02:19 | <bigguy> | I've bought a few nice items from the fs/ft forum |
| 02:19 | <bigguy> | hmm |
| 02:19 | <Soopaman> | really, like what/ |
| 02:19 | * bigguy | looks for cheap 3mm blue leds |
| 02:20 | <bigguy> | Soopaman: got a new 20gig fujitsu laptop harddrive oem sealed for $55 a few weeks ago |
| 02:21 | <bigguy> | saw a toshiba 20gig for $65 |
| 02:21 | <Soopaman> | wow |
| 02:22 | <bigguy> | gonna put the laptop harddrive, laptop dvd drive and vfd in the 3 external 5.25 bays |
| 02:23 | <bigguy> | got a brand new 20x4 VFD steal sealed and in the brown Futaba box for $15 and the guy even through in 4ft cable to use it on the parallel port for $15 |
| 02:24 | <bigguy> | I called up a futaba dealer to get the spec sheet |
| 02:24 | <bigguy> | the guy told me they sell them for ALOT more than $15 |
| 02:25 | <Soopaman> | are there any laptop disc drives with motorized trays? |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | unless you buy like 3000 at a time |
| 02:25 | <Soopaman> | sweet |
| 02:25 | <Soopaman> | was the guy in texas? |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | the seller? |
| 02:25 | <Soopaman> | yeah |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | nope |
| 02:25 | <Soopaman> | 'cause i got some futubas for cheap from a guy |
| 02:25 | <bigguy> | MI I think |
| 02:25 | <Soopaman> | because they are clean pulls |
| 02:26 | <bigguy> | I also had an IBM Point of sale display but futaba told me they couldnt release the specs on it |
| 02:26 | <Soopaman> | let me see if i still have specs |
| 02:26 | <Soopaman> | do you have the model #? |
| 02:27 | <Soopaman> | just in case it is the same model |
| 02:27 | <Soopaman> | i have |
| 02:27 | <bigguy> | was yours a Point of Sale display? |
| 02:28 | <bigguy> | does it have what looks like a rj45 connection? |
| 02:28 | <bigguy> | cause if not you got a different model |
| 02:28 | <Soopaman> | nope |
| 02:28 | <Soopaman> | 2 20x2 ribbon |
| 02:28 | <Soopaman> | err connector |
| 02:29 | <bigguy> | 20x4 is good enough for me |
| 02:29 | <bigguy> | kept losing on my bids for a 40x2 vfd on ebay |
| 02:30 | <bigguy> | some people will pay outrageous amounts just to win |
| 02:31 | <Soopaman> | yeah |
| 02:32 | <Soopaman> | does that guy who sold you the futuba for 15 bucks have a few? |
| 02:33 | <bigguy> | I needed a black desktop case for my htpc so I bought one from a guy on hardforums and he left a cel 400 machine in it an gave me a nice china made wireless keyboard |
| 02:33 | <bigguy> | also |
| 02:34 | <bigguy> | it seems to work from about 20-25 ft away so I'm happy |
| 02:35 | <bigguy> | anyway I'm gonna get some dvd ripping action going and head to bed |
| 02:35 | <bigguy> | talk to you guys later |
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| 16:30 | <Universe> | hmm |
| 16:30 | <Universe> | Chutt... Did you fix the problems with gcc 3.2? |
| 16:31 | * zytta | dances. |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | i might've broken it again |
| 16:32 | <Universe> | doh |
| 16:32 | <Universe> | of course |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | i don't know |
| 16:32 | <Universe> | heh |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | something not compiling? |
| 16:33 | <Universe> | the day I decide to make new from cvs |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | what's the error? |
| 16:33 | <Universe> | let me check something really quick |
| 16:35 | <Universe> | ok.. |
| 16:35 | <Universe> | main.o: In function `main': |
| 16:35 | <Universe> | main.o(.text+0x6c): undefined reference to `MythContext::MythContext[in-charge]()' |
| 16:35 | <Universe> | main.o(.text+0x7a): undefined reference to `MythContext::LoadQtConfig()' |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | try deleting libmyth* from /usr/local/lib |
| 16:36 | <Universe> | and a couple of others |
| 16:37 | <Universe> | there we go... I thought I just tried that but there were some still there |
| 16:37 | <Universe> | thanks |
| 16:37 | <Chutt> | no problemo |
| 16:40 | <Universe> | I shouldn't have to run setup again after re-compiling and installing from cvs, right? |
| 16:40 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 16:40 | <Soopaman> | woooo hoooo!! |
| 16:41 | <Soopaman> | i think frankestb is done! |
| 16:46 | <Universe> | now only if I was at home and could play with it now... |
| 16:46 | <Universe> | it appears to be running |
| 16:50 | <Universe> | I wonder how Ant is doing with the VCD burning addon |
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| 18:09 | <grakker> | Anyone have a suggestion for a capture/tv-out card? |
| 18:20 | <vektor> | Anything with a bt8x8 chip. |
| 18:20 | <vektor> | And if you get something with S-Video input, you'll thank yourself in the future. |
| 18:21 | <vektor> | But don't just take my word for it... :) |
| 18:22 | <grakker> | OK, I've just spent about 45 minutes checking the mailing list archives and it looks like my best deal is to buy a separate card for capture and another for playback. |
| 18:23 | <vektor> | What do you mean by that? |
| 18:23 | <vektor> | Are you specifically referring to the ATI AIW cards? |
| 18:23 | <grakker> | NO |
| 18:23 | <vektor> | Then what do you mean? |
| 18:24 | <grakker> | I just read a post where the guy uses a 8x8 card for capture, then some gforce nvidia card for playback. |
| 18:24 | <vektor> | So, you mean displaying on a monitor. |
| 18:24 | <grakker> | No, display on a tv. |
| 18:24 | <vektor> | What cards were you looking at for TV output? |
| 18:25 | <vektor> | Are there any cards that can both capture and output to a TV? |
| 18:25 | <grakker> | I really didn't want to get an nvidia, 'cause I've heard bad things. Freezing and stuff, but I'm not sure what else there is. AIW seem to have there own problems. |
| 18:25 | <grakker> | I would think that there are. AIW do don't they? |
| 18:26 | <vektor> | Well, except that Radeon TV output drivers basically don't exist in Linux. |
| 18:26 | <grakker> | Yeah, that's what I'm noticing.... |
| 18:26 | <vektor> | And the AIW can't seem to use the hardware overlay and the TV capture at the same time. |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | er, I'm using a Radeon with TV output |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | on Linux |
| 18:26 | <vektor> | mdz: Ok. |
| 18:26 | <grakker> | How's that working for you? |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | your second point is correct |
| 18:26 | <vektor> | mdz: Then fine, prove me wrong. |
| 18:27 | <mdz> | grakker: it's not currently suitable for a PVR application by itself |
| 18:27 | <vektor> | I wonder if my page is incorrect. |
| 18:27 | <mdz> | grakker: you're better off with a separate capture card, as you said |
| 18:27 | <grakker> | So back to using two cards, right. |
| 18:27 | <vektor> | grakker: For more vektor propaganda, see http://vektor.theorem.ca/graphics/tvout/ |
| 18:27 | <grakker> | Ok looking now. |
| 18:27 | <vektor> | grakker: You'll basically see me bitch that the Matrox G400 is the "only" TV output card under linux worth a damn. |
| 18:27 | <vektor> | But that's in hot dispute. |
| 18:28 | <vektor> | As in, I think mdz will argue that with me. |
| 18:31 | <grakker> | vektor: Man that seems like a bit of a PITA to get a G400 working.... |
| 18:32 | <vektor> | what do you mean? :) |
| 18:32 | <vektor> | and yeah, I mean, I bought the card last year because it was supposed to be the best TV output card under linux. |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | i was pretty shocked that the was so poor. |
| 18:33 | <grakker> | "The bad news was that the maven, or MAtrox Video ENcoder chip, is proprietary and specs were never released to the Linux community..." |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | exactly. |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | but two months ago Ville got it works best. |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | I mean, we had some really really really crappy hacked up code |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | that never had proper NTSC timings |
| 18:34 | <grakker> | I'm a little confused. So does the g400 work well for tv-out or not? I'm in US. |
| 18:35 | <vektor> | As of September, if your app is written for DirectFB using the newest drivers, you talk directly to the TV encoder and works great. |
| 18:35 | <vektor> | Even for NTSC. |
| 18:35 | <vektor> | If you use the crap fbcon drivers then it still sucks ass. |
| 18:36 | <vektor> | And looks horrible. |
| 18:36 | <vektor> | And isn't synced. |
| 18:36 | <vektor> | Basically, for me, high quality TV output means that your video player is written to talk to a TV encoder. |
| 18:36 | <vektor> | You write interlaced video, it plays correctly. |
| 18:36 | <vektor> | myth can't do this: X has no TV output API. |
| 18:36 | <vektor> | So, anything else, to me, is a hack. |
| 18:37 | <vektor> | Regardless, even by my 'high standards', the fbcon G400 TV output code is crap. |
| 18:37 | <vektor> | This DirectFB stuff makes it usable. :) |
| 18:37 | <vektor> | (not that the new code can't be ported away from DirectFB) |
| 18:37 | <vektor> | Am I making sense? |
| 18:37 | <grakker> | OK, thanks for the info. Is there a way to get Mythtv to play nice, or is it just not going to happen. |
| 18:37 | <vektor> | Play nice with what? |
| 18:38 | <grakker> | Yeah, you're making sense, it's just that in the 6 years I've been playing with linux I've never even tried to capture or tv-out, even look at it. |
| 18:38 | <vektor> | Do you have a G400? |
| 18:38 | <brtb> | my TV-out method has always been an external scan converter set to overscan... maybe not the best solution but it works |
| 18:38 | <grakker> | UH, well, you said that mythtv doesn't interlace correctly, right? |
| 18:38 | <vektor> | If you're ok with that, why not stick with it? |
| 18:39 | <vektor> | mythtv deinterlaces the video, and therefore cuts the framerate in half, and loses some quality. |
| 18:39 | <vektor> | If you want to do better you'd have to majorly hack something. Most people are ok with that though. |
| 18:39 | <vektor> | If you're already ok with that loss of quality, you're probably ok with an external scan converter too. |
| 18:40 | <grakker> | No, I don't have anything right now, except for a box with an old 3dfx card. I'm not a gamer so never felt like upgrading. But I was planning on hitting the store tonight or tomorrow and building up my box to do the job and I'm just having trouble figuring out what to get. |
| 18:40 | <brtb> | yep... none of my tv's are good enough quality on their own to really notice anyway |
| 18:40 | <grakker> | I'm not very picky about quality. VCD's look fine to me, usually. |
| 18:40 | <vektor> | You can't buy a G400 now anyway. |
| 18:40 | <vektor> | They're obsolete. |
| 18:41 | <vektor> | And the code isn't there yet for the G450/G550 which you can still find, but are going obsolete. :) |
| 18:41 | <grakker> | :-( OK, so I guess that I'm going to take a trip to Fry's, look at all the products they have, then go back home and see what the support is like, then go back and buy.... Damn. I can do that though. |
| 18:43 | <vektor> | I guess :) |
| 18:43 | <grakker> | Well, linux is nothing if not a learning experience.... Thanks for the help. |
| 18:43 | <vektor> | That's what I've found anyway, to really know what works best in linux, you have to be willing to take financial risks... Maybe I'm just a pessimist. |
| 18:44 | <vektor> | I hope I was some help. You probably shouldn't listen to me. |
| 18:44 | <grakker> | Yeah, you gave me some stuff to think about. I don't mind spending the money, really. You aren't my only source, so don't feel too much pressure. |
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| 19:03 | <Democritus2> | howdy quick question- got mthtv compiled and configured on mandrake9.0= when i run the mythtv binary i get "strange error flushing buffer ... |
| 19:03 | <Democritus2> | Using XV port 55 |
| 19:03 | <Democritus2> | Illegal instruction |
| 19:04 | <Chutt> | turn off deinterlacing |
| 19:04 | <Democritus2> | where? |
| 19:05 | <Chutt> | in the settings file |
| 19:05 | <Democritus2> | settings.txt? |
| 19:05 | <Democritus2> | ok |
| 19:05 | <Democritus2> | thanks |
| 19:06 | <vektor> | Chutt: I think you should detect MMX :) |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | but, thing is |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | if you have a cpu that doesn't do that |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | you're screwed anyway |
| 19:06 | <Chutt> | so there's really no point |
| 19:06 | <Universe> | lol |
| 19:06 | <vektor> | I guess that's fair :) |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | that particular one is mmx2, though |
| 19:08 | <Democritus2> | thanks- it works- some tweaking help please? |
| 19:08 | <Democritus2> | wasnt smooth at all- video and audio extremely choppy |
| 19:09 | <Chutt> | your cpu is too slow. |
| 19:09 | <Chutt> | drop the resolution down |
| 19:09 | <Chutt> | don't compress the audio |
| 19:10 | <Democritus2> | is "resolution to capture at |
| 19:10 | <Democritus2> | the correct place to change resolution? |
| 19:10 | <Democritus2> | or is that for recording? |
| 19:10 | <Chutt> | try it and see :p |
| 19:11 | <Universe> | whats what you are waiting ot change... |
| 19:11 | <Democritus2> | good answer |
| 19:11 | <Democritus2> | :0) |
| 19:11 | <Democritus2> | sorry wont be lame again |
| 19:11 | <Universe> | everything is record in mythtv |
| 19:11 | <Universe> | you are always watching a recording |
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| 19:14 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: I've been playing with mythtv 0.7 for the past hour and it's really nice. thanks. |
| 19:15 | <Chutt> | thanke |
| 19:16 | <Universe> | did you release a new versoin or its the cvs? |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | 0.7 was released this past weekend |
| 19:16 | <Democritus2> | hmm i changed the capture resolution from 480x480 to 380x380 and mythtv then seg faults? |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | your capture card won't do 380x380 |
| 19:16 | <Democritus2> | turning off the audio compression helped some |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | try 352x240 |
| 19:17 | <Chutt> | or 320x240 |
| 19:17 | <Democritus2> | thanks again |
| 19:17 | <Universe> | oh... wow... I didn't know that... any changes to the database from 0.6 to 0.7? |
| 19:18 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 19:18 | <Chutt> | but you said you're using cvs, so you're already newer than the 0.7 release |
| 19:18 | <Universe> | I just updated to cvs |
| 19:18 | <Universe> | I was using 0.6 before |
| 19:18 | <Universe> | want to make sure I didn't mess anything up |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | shouldn't have |
| 19:19 | <Universe> | ok, good |
| 19:21 | <Soopaman> | hey guys |
| 19:22 | <Soopaman> | do you know of a good fullscreen picture/movie viewer |
| 19:22 | <Soopaman> | like a small footprint'd slide show app with good transitions? |
| 19:23 | <Democritus2> | ok now it plays smoothly - quality is extremely bad though |
| 19:23 | <Democritus2> | try mpeg-4 |
| 19:23 | <Democritus2> | ? |
| 19:23 | <Chutt> | heh, no, that's even more cpu :p |
| 19:23 | <Chutt> | you can try it, though |
| 19:23 | <brtb> | you could try setting quality higher, if it's at the default 170 now |
| 19:23 | <Democritus2> | thanks |
| 19:23 | <brtb> | what cpu is this? |
| 19:23 | <Democritus2> | p3 550 |
| 19:24 | <Democritus2> | 512mb ram |
| 19:24 | <Universe> | ouch |
| 19:24 | <Chutt> | putting quality up to 255'll help a little |
| 19:25 | <brtb> | hmm... you :might: be able to do mpeg4 at 320x240 if you turn deinterlace off (and many DontCompressAudio=1) |
| 19:25 | <brtb> | erm... maybe even |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | right |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | maybe =) |
| 19:27 | <Democritus2> | thanks again |
| 19:28 | <brtb> | i can do mpeg4 with audio compress and deinterlacing with a p3 667, but only on 352x240... anything above that my cpu can't handle it |
| 19:28 | <Universe> | I need a new system myself for mythtv... |
| 19:28 | <Universe> | does it look better with mpeg4 brtb? |
| 19:28 | <brtb> | haven't really checked... mpeg4 is less HD space iirc |
| 19:29 | <Universe> | I will have to play around wiht it |
| 19:29 | <Universe> | I am using a P3 700 |
| 19:30 | <Democritus2> | actually mpeg4 with quality 255 is better |
| 19:30 | <Democritus2> | how do i run it in a smaller window- right now it is coming up full screen |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | mpeg4 doesn't use those quality settings |
| 19:30 | <Democritus2> | oh ok |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | hit 'f' |
| 19:30 | <Universe> | you put in a key Chutt? |
| 19:30 | <Democritus2> | ok - was getting ready to read key.txt |
| 19:31 | <Chutt> | someone else did |
| 19:31 | <Universe> | I have to edit the source in 0.6 |
| 19:31 | <Universe> | heh |
| 19:31 | <Chutt> | it doesn't stretch it or make it the proper aspect ratio, though |
| 19:31 | <Democritus2> | looks better when not full screen |
| 19:31 | <Democritus2> | alot |
| 19:32 | <Universe> | but using 352x240, its close to the right aspect ratio |
| 19:32 | <Universe> | if not the right ratio |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | right |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | but if you were doing 480x480 |
| 19:33 | <Democritus2> | but now the picture is a bit too small |
| 19:33 | <Democritus2> | :) |
| 19:33 | <Democritus2> | no pleasing some people |
| 19:35 | <Democritus2> | what screen is supposed to come up when you choose setup from mythfrontend? |
| 19:35 | <Democritus2> | i get nothing |
| 19:36 | <Universe> | nothing |
| 19:36 | <Universe> | I dont think its been implemented yet |
| 20:03 | <billytwowilly> | nothing |
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| 20:13 | <Soopaman> | anyone here ever played around with acpi events? |
| 20:28 | <billytwowilly> | quick question: can you control mythtv from a different computer? eg. from a sharp zaurus with the wireless module addon? |
| 20:34 | <Universe> | if you can control a linux box and get key strokes to go through with this setup, I am sure you can.. |
| 20:34 | <Universe> | mythtv doesn't support this on its own, I am sure. |
| 20:37 | <billytwowilly> | Universe: how would you get keystrokes to go through? could you remote login over the wireless connection to the pvr and do it that way? |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | there isn't a way to do it currently |
| 20:38 | <Chutt> | that'd be a neat little feature, though |
| 20:38 | <Universe> | using commandline aguments... that would be nice |
| 20:38 | <billytwowilly> | yah, especially with the impending ubiquity of wireless devices... stupid non-coding ability;) |
| 20:39 | <Universe> | *HINT, HINT to anyone that could program this* |
| 20:39 | <Universe> | heh |
| 20:39 | <brtb> | maybe if you could do something like a vnc connection with RFB... |
| 20:40 | <brtb> | rfb would probably interfere with the video though |
| 20:40 | <brtb> | unless it grabs the picture pre-overlay |
| 20:41 | <Chutt> | you'd want a interface designed for the screen size |
| 20:42 | <Universe> | I remote setup is worth buying tho.. |
| 20:42 | <Universe> | err a remote |
| 20:44 | <billytwowilly> | vnc? so you could see what's happening on the screen with that as well? |
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| 20:48 | <Universe> | hey Chutt.. any news on the mythweb update? |
| 20:49 | <Chutt> | thor just sent a message to the list today |
| 20:50 | <Universe> | I see that now |
| 20:51 | * Universe | watches cvs like a hawk now. |
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| 20:59 | <billytwowilly> | brtb: what if you used something like tightVNC, which has a java client (which is supported on the zaurus I believe) would that still muck up the video? |
| 21:00 | <brtb> | i have no idea, it was just a crazy thought that most likely won't work, heh |
| 21:01 | <Universe> | VNC can't refresh fast enough to play video or games |
| 21:02 | <brtb> | well i was thinking maybe vnc would grab the image pre-overlay, just to use it to send keystrokes |
| 21:02 | <brtb> | but i really have no idea, heh |
| 21:03 | <billytwowilly> | that's not a prob.. I't just be to set recordings and to be used as a remote... It's just a wild fantasy of mine at the moment... |
| 21:03 | <brtb> | and it wouldn't be a real vnc server anyway; it'd either be x0rfbserver, or krfb in kde 3.1 |
| 21:03 | <Universe> | use mythweb to set recording billytwowilly |
| 21:04 | <billytwowilly> | Universe: yah, but I'd like to be able to use it as a remote over the wireless connection module as well... |
| 21:04 | <billytwowilly> | it's all just speculation at this point anyway.. |
| 21:04 | <Universe> | sounds like you will have to learn how to program |
| 21:05 | <billytwowilly> | Universe: most likely.. or make more money so I can pay someone else to do it for me. |
| 21:08 | <billytwowilly> | either way, that'd just be neat;) being able to use a PDA to change chans, set recording, and stuff from the other room;) |
| 21:15 | <Universe> | you can use the IR port on a PDA to do that |
| 21:15 | <Universe> | not from another room tho |
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| 21:30 | <billytwowilly> | Universe: but the neatness factor;) just think, screenshots on the PDA of what you are doing;) that would be too cool;) *sigh* it's a shame, that I'm so lame, cuz I can't code;) |
| 21:31 | <billytwowilly> | I have a good idea, but just get verbal diarhea cuz I can't code.;( |
| 21:31 | <billytwowilly> | heh, well there's two lines of a poem for you guys, you make up the rest;) it's better than mad libs I swear;) |
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| 21:52 | <vektor> | Chutt: You around? |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | Chutt: I'm having trouble knowing how to find ft2build.h on ppls systems. |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | Chutt: Have you had any complaints about that? |
| 21:53 | <Universe> | I dont think Chutt checks |
| 21:54 | <Universe> | I think he just says you have to have it installed and if you gets errors, you are probably missing something |
| 21:54 | <vektor> | Because it's in the default include path for debian, but not for old redhat or slackware. |
| 21:58 | <Chutt> | run freetype-config --cflags |
| 21:59 | <vektor> | Chutt: That does not include the include path for ft2build.h |
| 21:59 | <Chutt> | by definition it does. |
| 21:59 | <vektor> | On my system, ft2build.h is in /usr/include |
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| 21:59 | <Chutt> | then whoever installed it is wrong =) |
| 21:59 | <vektor> | But that's not in freetype-config --cflags |
| 21:59 | <vektor> | It's the same on slackware. |
| 22:00 | <vektor> | No, worse! |
| 22:00 | <vektor> | So on RedHat 7.1 replace it with the correct path |
| 22:00 | <vektor> | #include </usr/include/freetype2/freetype/config/ftbuild.h> |
| 22:00 | <vektor> | That's this bugreport from RH7.1 |
| 22:00 | <vektor> | the guy on slackware, ft2build.h is in /usr/X11R6/include |
| 22:01 | <vektor> | but it's not in freetype-config --cflags |
| 22:01 | <brtb> | old slackware possibly doesn't have ft2? |
| 22:01 | <vektor> | that returns -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/ |
| 22:01 | <Chutt> | those are standard include paths, though |
| 22:01 | <vektor> | Chutt: /usr/X11R6/include was not in slackware users' default include path. |
| 22:01 | <vektor> | This RH7.1 report freaks me out. |
| 22:01 | <brtb> | heh |
| 22:02 | <Chutt> | whoever put freetype into the X11 dir is on crack, anyway |
| 22:02 | <Chutt> | since it doesn't have anything to do with X |
| 22:02 | <Chutt> | but no, i've not had a single bug report about it not being found |
| 22:02 | <vektor> | well, so what should i do. |
| 22:03 | <vektor> | update my configure.ac? or tell these guys to bug their distros |
| 22:03 | <brtb> | yell at patrick, get him to fix it in 9.0? |
| 22:03 | <brtb> | slackware that is |
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| 23:15 | <mdz_> | Chutt: I'm fleshing out the debconf templates for mythtv a bit |
| 23:15 | <mdz_> | Chutt: is there a convenient list somewhere which gives an overview of which television standards are used where? |
| 23:15 | <mdz_> | to give folks a hint |
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| 23:51 | <mirk_dt> | anyone have any idea what OV_ECTL_RATEMANAGE_SET should be when compiling mythmusic? |
| 23:53 | <Chutt> | what version of vorbis do you have installed? |
| 23:54 | <mirk_dt> | checking... |
| 23:54 | <mirk_dt> | libvorbis-1.0rc3-1 |
| 23:54 | <mirk_dt> | and libvorbis-devel-1.0rc3-1 |
| 23:54 | <mirk_dt> | came with my distro...RH 7.3 |
| 23:56 | <mirk_dt> | fwiw, I also needed to added a couple paths to settings.pro |
| 23:56 | <mirk_dt> | /usr/include/;/usr/include/vorbis;/usr/include/cdda <-- I added these |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | dunno, i'm using vorbis 1.0 |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | you may be missing a -dev rpm |
| 23:58 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure how redhat splits things up |
| 23:59 | <mirk_dt> | huh. maybe i'll try compiling vorbis from source |
