| 00:01 | <Chutt> | got it |
| 00:02 | <Chutt> | lemme just check things in, then i'll take a bunch of screenshots |
| 00:03 | <Chutt> | including the edit stuff |
| 00:03 | <nyquiljer> | sweet |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | wow |
| 00:11 | <Chutt> | now i'm getting a segfault on channel change |
| 00:12 | <nyquiljer> | its only a problem if you have more than 1 channel... |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | fixed it |
| 00:12 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 00:13 | <Chutt> | he did say he hadn't updated his program database in awhile |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | now i'm going to take screenshots =) |
| 00:15 | <nyquiljer> | :) |
| 00:15 | <Chutt> | anything in particular you want to see? |
| 00:16 | <nyquiljer> | edit mode specifically interests me |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 00:16 | <nyquiljer> | maybe something with several edited spots |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 00:16 | <Chutt> | i'll do that, and one of each of the dialog boxes that pop up |
| 00:16 | <nyquiljer> | ooh, dialog boxes |
| 00:17 | <nyquiljer> | didnt know you had dialog boxes yet |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | yeah, they're ugly |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | just darkens a rectangle |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | for the background, then draws the text on top of that |
| 00:17 | <Chutt> | and puts a white rectangle around the current selection |
| 00:18 | <nyquiljer> | well, its a start :) |
| 00:21 | <nyquiljer> | since i'm going to have to install mythtv and all its dependencies again, i'm gonna try to figure out the best order to do it all in, and make a script |
| 00:21 | <nyquiljer> | so debian people can just either paste to a term, or run the script |
| 00:22 | <nyquiljer> | and have it do all the apt-getting and PAM getting, and maybe wget anything else |
| 00:22 | <nyquiljer> | er CPAN |
| 00:22 | <nyquiljer> | not PAM |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | dh-make-perl i think |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | will do the cpan stuff for you |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | actually |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | if you're using unstable, you can get xmltv debs |
| 00:22 | <Chutt> | from someplace i don't remember where :( |
| 00:22 | <nyquiljer> | i'm not :) |
| 00:23 | <nyquiljer> | i'm not real good with apt yet, but on kde.org they have debian stable debs, and have the like you have to add to sources.list |
| 00:24 | <nyquiljer> | which i did |
| 00:24 | <nyquiljer> | but when i try to install kdebase it just installs the older version |
| 00:24 | <nyquiljer> | and i dont understand why |
| 00:25 | <brtb> | yet another stupid question... where does mythepg's font get selected? |
| 00:25 | <Chutt> | in the source |
| 00:26 | <Chutt> | the font size is configurable in theme.txt, though |
| 00:26 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: oh, something i thought about earlier tonite, i know you dont want to deal with colors in fonts at this point, but what about selecting whether its black or white? |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | black w/ a white outline, or white with a black outline? |
| 00:27 | <nyquiljer> | yeh |
| 00:27 | <Chutt> | yeah, that'd be easy to do |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | these screenshots didn't come out so great |
| 00:32 | <Chutt> | lemme try that again |
| 00:32 | <nyquiljer> | :) |
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| 00:41 | <Chutt> | almost done =) |
| 00:42 | <nyquiljer> | one of the shots you did the other day was running in a window..is that an option now, or did you just hardcode it to do that while you were testing it? |
| 00:42 | <Chutt> | yeah, it's a keybinding |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | but, it doesn't resize things to the proper aspect ratio |
| 00:43 | <Chutt> | hit 'f' in the video to toggle fullscreen and window |
| 00:44 | <nyquiljer> | cool |
| 00:44 | <nyquiljer> | thatll be handy |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/mc/editmode.jpg |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/mc/editmode-insert.jpg |
| 00:46 | <Chutt> | http://www.mythtv.org/mc/editmode-delete.jpg |
| 00:47 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: have you ever used dvd2avi in windows? |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | looks better when blown up to fullscreen |
| 00:47 | <nyquiljer> | did the arrows not look good on top of the slider? |
| 00:47 | <nyquiljer> | er, the bar |
| 00:47 | <nyquiljer> | er whatever the heck its called |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | yeah, couldn't really see them if they were _on_ the slider |
| 00:47 | <Chutt> | but i think this makes em stand out more, too, which is cool |
| 00:47 | <nyquiljer> | yeh |
| 00:49 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: how complicated is it placing the cut points? |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | it's really easy |
| 00:49 | <nyquiljer> | ohh, duh |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | you seek around with the left and right arrow keys |
| 00:49 | <nyquiljer> | i see how it works |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | up and down let you change how much you seek by |
| 00:49 | <Chutt> | all they way from a single frame -> 10 minutes at a time |
| 00:49 | <nyquiljer> | is ther an indication of what 'seek level' youre at? |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | and you can jump to the nearest keyframe, or nearest cut point |
| 00:50 | <Chutt> | yeah, it shows up on screen below the time whenever you change it |
| 00:50 | <nyquiljer> | nice |
| 00:50 | <nyquiljer> | is it actualy deleting those portions or just sort of bookmarking? |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | right now it's just marking them |
| 00:51 | <nyquiljer> | cool |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | i'll make it actually go delete them later =) |
| 00:51 | <Chutt> | but it does automatically skip past the deleted sections when you play it back |
| 00:51 | <nyquiljer> | thats relaly cool |
| 00:51 | <nyquiljer> | now we just ned to figure out a really effective way to do commerial detection |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | i've got plans =) |
| 00:52 | <nyquiljer> | excellent |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | but i think that's going to be post-0.7 |
| 00:52 | <Chutt> | same with rewriting edited files |
| 00:53 | <nyquiljer> | yeh |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | now, have to remember how to transfer those files to sourceforge |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | billytwowilly, oh, sorry, i haven't used dvd2avi |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | in editmode.jpg, you can see my crappy cable ghosting to the right of the guy's head =) |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | that's _not_ a mpeg4 artifact |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | well, it could've been, but it's not =) |
| 01:03 | <nyquiljer> | :) |
| 01:03 | <nyquiljer> | i get that tooo |
| 01:16 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: dvd2avi has a really nice editing menu that would be great for cutting out commercials. Although it's very similar to what you've already described. |
| 01:28 | <TardisX> | chutt: screenshots look really nice |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | thanks =) |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | hopefully stuff works now for other people |
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| 01:50 | <Soopaman> | hola |
| 02:16 | <billytwowilly> | wasabi? |
| 02:17 | <Soopaman> | quiet yous |
| 02:17 | <Soopaman> | heheh |
| 02:18 | <billytwowilly> | heh. |
| 02:18 | <Soopaman> | so what's up in mythtv land? |
| 02:18 | <billytwowilly> | heh. I dunno. I just got here today and all I've accomplished is earning myself the title "that pain in the ass that always asks questions";) |
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| 10:40 | <blinx> | hola |
| 10:40 | <Chutt> | mornin |
| 10:41 | <blinx> | heh.. I'm almost on my way home from work :) |
| 10:41 | <vektor> | mornin :) |
| 10:42 | <blinx> | I've been without mythtv for days now.. broke my qt so there is no DB support.. and now I have memory problems so I can't recompile it.. |
| 10:42 | <blinx> | typical.. |
| 10:42 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:43 | <blinx> | I had a module that caused my box to sig11 when it was used.. so I got it swapped, when I got it back I only got a 128MB module instead of the 256MB I turned in - and it still makes the box unstable. |
| 10:43 | <Chutt> | not fun |
| 10:43 | <blinx> | nope.. and the shop is ofcouse located around where I live.. I'm never near that place during business hours.. |
| 10:44 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 10:44 | <blinx> | gotta take a day off to go turn it in again. |
| 10:44 | <blinx> | argh.. :) |
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| 10:54 | <blinx> | time to head home.. |
| 10:54 | <blinx> | c'ya |
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| 14:24 | <billytwowilly> | good afternoon all. |
| 14:30 | <Universe> | greetings billytwowilly |
| 14:33 | <billytwowilly> | how's it going? |
| 14:34 | <Universe> | alright, I guess |
| 14:34 | <Universe> | could be better |
| 14:36 | <billytwowilly> | oh? what seems to be the problem? |
| 14:36 | <billytwowilly> | don't say me asking questions;) |
| 14:37 | <Universe> | I could be at home watching TV instead of being at work. |
| 14:38 | <Soopaman> | work is sooooo over-rated |
| 14:38 | <billytwowilly> | heh, I feel your pain. I have to work tommorrow. |
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| 19:43 | <mdz> | Chutt: you decided to make -DEXTRA_LOCKING default? |
| 19:44 | <mdz> | I don't think I notice any performance impact on my (uniprocessor) system, but I haven't measured |
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| 20:17 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | very small cpu hit |
| 20:27 | <mdz> | have you thought about setting different priorities to your threads? |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | would help a little, yeah |
| 20:30 | <Chutt> | i did for awhile, i think |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | the only thing the EXTRA_LOCKING stuff really hurts is smp performance |
| 20:32 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 20:36 | <mdz> | sometimes if I'm worried that I'll be getting low on CPU, I'll bump up the priority of the encoding thread |
| 20:37 | <mdz> | but more interesting would be relative priority of playback vs. recording |
| 20:37 | <mdz> | by the way...what's the status of the keyboard bindings stuff? did that guy send you anything? |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | they're in cvs now |
| 20:44 | <Chutt> | don't remember exactly what they are, though =) |
| 20:45 | <Chutt> | i need to make all that configurable |
| 20:45 | <Chutt> | ctl-left/right pages forward and back |
| 20:45 | <Chutt> | page up/down is up and down |
| 20:45 | <Chutt> | home/end move back and forth an entire day |
| 20:47 | <mdz> | how recently are they in CVS? |
| 20:47 | <mdz> | I'm running CS as of about 19:30 today |
| 20:47 | <mdz> | CVS |
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| 20:51 | <brunes> | hey anyone around? |
| 20:52 | <brunes> | this software looks amazing. I just wanted to know if it does real time recording of tv constantly, a-la tivo, so you can pause live tv |
| 20:52 | <brunes> | er, sorry that wasnt clear |
| 20:53 | <Universe> | you can |
| 20:53 | <brunes> | if you can do that *and* record at the same time if you have two tv tuners |
| 20:53 | <Universe> | you can do that too |
| 20:53 | <Universe> | I think |
| 20:53 | <brunes> | sweet can |
| 20:53 | <Universe> | I dont have 2 turner cards |
| 20:53 | <brunes> | what kind of a cpu would I need for that do you figure? |
| 20:53 | <brunes> | well for starters, what kind of cpu speed are we talking about for the real time encoding |
| 20:53 | <Universe> | of course, your would need a very fast machine to encode 2 signals at high quality |
| 20:53 | <brunes> | I dont know much about nuppelvideo |
| 20:54 | <Universe> | I am running a rez of 352x240 |
| 20:54 | <Universe> | on a P 3 700 |
| 20:54 | <mdz> | brunes: I run 640x480 on a 1.4GHz Athlon |
| 20:54 | <Universe> | and cant do more without video lag |
| 20:54 | <brunes> | is that decent quality? I thought 640x480 was TV quality |
| 20:54 | <mdz> | brunes: and it has very little CPU left during simultaneous record and playback |
| 20:55 | <brunes> | hrm |
| 20:55 | <mdz> | brunes: 320x240/352x240 is not as bad as you would think |
| 20:55 | <brunes> | nuppel sounds pretty CPU intensive then |
| 20:55 | <mdz> | brunes: compared to what exactly? |
| 20:55 | <Universe> | there is no hardware encoding cards for linux, is there? |
| 20:55 | <brunes> | I have an athlon XP 1800+ (1.53 GHX) and I can encode divx4 real time at 640x480 |
| 20:55 | <mdz> | Universe: there is at least one, but it is expensive |
| 20:55 | <brunes> | and have other apps like IRC, web browser running |
| 20:56 | <mdz> | brunes: so you are doing basically the same thing that I Am |
| 20:56 | <mdz> | brunes: on a somewhat faster machine |
| 20:56 | <brunes> | yeah I guess |
| 20:56 | <brunes> | but I thought nuppel was more like mpeg2 |
| 20:56 | <brunes> | I guess it isnt? |
| 20:56 | <mdz> | brunes: nuppelvideo is just a container |
| 20:56 | <mdz> | brunes: like AVI |
| 20:56 | <brunes> | oh |
| 20:56 | <brunes> | what codec does mythtv use then? |
| 20:56 | <mdz> | brunes: mythtv can use RTjpeg or MPEG4 |
| 20:57 | <brunes> | so mpeg4 would be akin to divx |
| 20:57 | <brunes> | does it use the libavcodec mpeg4 ? |
| 20:57 | <mdz> | brunes: other codecs from libavcodec should be able to be made to work, but there seem to be some issues and noobdy really uses anything but tohse two |
| 20:57 | <mdz> | brunes: yes, it uses libavcodec |
| 20:57 | <brunes> | thats what I use, with mencoder |
| 20:57 | <brunes> | I find its fast as a rocket |
| 20:57 | <brunes> | ok |
| 20:57 | <brunes> | im just building this media box here and am trying to decide what cpu to buy for it |
| 20:58 | <brunes> | I was looking at duron 1.1GHX - 1.3GHZ |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | I understand, I looked all over for this kind of specs when I was building my box |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | I couldn't find much at all in the way of requirements |
| 20:58 | <brunes> | but I guess an XP 1600+ would be a better idea? |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | you would probably be happier with the XP |
| 20:58 | <brunes> | yeah |
| 20:58 | <brunes> | its like 40 bucks more though |
| 20:58 | <mdz> | if you want very good quality |
| 20:58 | <brunes> | quality is worth it though |
| 20:59 | <mdz> | I may drop in an XP if I decide that this isn't enough eventually; my board supports it |
| 20:59 | <brunes> | hrmm |
| 20:59 | <brunes> | im not positive this board supports the XP actually |
| 21:00 | <brunes> | what is this RTJpeg codec? |
| 21:00 | <mdz> | brunes: it is similar to MJPEG |
| 21:00 | <brunes> | how does its quality / speed compare to mpeg4 ? |
| 21:00 | <mdz> | it is a simpler codec, so it produces larger files with less CPU utilization |
| 21:00 | <brunes> | I see |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | an 1800+ is a little strained to do 2 encodes and a decode simultaneously |
| 21:01 | <brunes> | hrm |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | with mpeg4 at 640x480 |
| 21:01 | <mdz> | brunes: do you have two capture cards already? or is that just something you're thinking about? |
| 21:01 | <brunes> | can you tell it to do the real time encode / decode with RTJpeg, but the recording for archival with mpeg4 ? |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | a 2000 or a 2200 should be able to, i think |
| 21:01 | <Chutt> | not currently, no |
| 21:01 | <brunes> | mdz: I have one currently, am thinkg about getting a second |
| 21:02 | <brunes> | that'd be ideal if you could |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | mdz, the keybindings for the epg should be in that snapshot |
| 21:02 | <brunes> | cause the RTJpeg is fast |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | Chutt: in that case, my #1 key binding gripe didn't get fixed in that pass :-) |
| 21:02 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:02 | <mdz> | this machine is an XP 2000 |
| 21:03 | <brunes> | I bet an xp1800+ could do an rtjpeg encode / decode alongside an mpeg4 encode |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | I bought it to replace my 1.4 so that I could use the 1.4 for recording |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | it will do close to 2x real-time for straight encoding |
| 21:03 | <brunes> | that couldnt even be done with some manual editing you dont think? |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | it _might_ be able to do a playback in there as well |
| 21:03 | <mdz> | but playback in mythtv is expensive |
| 21:04 | <mdz> | brunes: use the source, Luke |
| 21:04 | <brunes> | why i splayback expensive? |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | it'd be less so if i rewrote things to use the direct rending stuff in libavcodec |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | a couple less memcpys would help considerably |
| 21:04 | <brunes> | mthtv needs X as well, doesnt it? |
| 21:04 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 21:05 | <brunes> | that wasnt really clea ron the website |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | if you wanted to give up Xv, it might be adaptable to qt-embedded |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | but who wants to give up Xv? |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | one of the requirements is qt |
| 21:05 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 21:05 | <brunes> | mplayer can play to the framebuffer very well |
| 21:06 | <brunes> | I thought maybe thats what mythtv did |
| 21:06 | <mdz> | brunes: only if you use vidix |
| 21:06 | <brunes> | or directFB |
| 21:06 | <mdz> | brunes: if you use just plain framebuffer, it has to scale in software |
| 21:06 | <brunes> | sometimes I use VESA, but that sucks |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | you're welcome to contribute code to do different output methods |
| 21:06 | <brunes> | X isnt a problem anyways |
| 21:06 | <mdz> | sure, there are probably people out there who are interested in framebuffer support |
| 21:06 | <mdz> | but I am not one of them |
| 21:07 | <brunes> | I dont even have cable right now, so its all a bit of a pipe dream :) |
| 21:08 | <mdz> | you don't need cable to use mythtv |
| 21:08 | <brunes> | well no, but it isnt too usefull to me at the moment ;) |
| 21:08 | <brunes> | I like how it has MP3 / OGG stuff as well |
| 21:14 | <brunes> | ive got a nifty little shuttle board for it, and am getting some PCI risers |
| 21:24 | <mdz> | Chutt: how do we want to handle setup (the program) in the packages? |
| 21:24 | <mdz> | Chutt: should I just tell the user to run it, or do you want to provide something non-interactive? |
| 21:25 | <mdz> | eventually, I assume this stuff will be in the UI, so it won't need to be done at installation time at all |
| 21:27 | <Chutt> | i think telling the user to run it would be the best thing to do |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | i'll see about making it obvious that setup needs to be run if there's no data in the tables |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | i don't think mythtv bitches about that, currently |
| 21:28 | <Chutt> | though mythfrontend and the epg do, i think |
| 21:29 | <mdz> | sounds good |
| 21:29 | <mdz> | I think I'm going to bail on the nice generic database handler for now, and just do it quick and dirty |
| 21:29 | <mdz> | this means that I'll probably never get around to doing it right :-/ |
| 21:30 | <mdz> | but I don't think I have the time right now |
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| 21:31 | <mdz> | the most annoying thing is, there doesn't seem to be any way to pass a password to the mysql CLI without it being visible to the entire world |
| 21:31 | <mdz> | so I'll be forced to use one of the language APIs, even though it is otherwise entirely unnecessary |
| 21:36 | <brunes> | couldnt you redirect the STDIN from somewhere else? |
| 21:43 | <mdz> | it doesn't read a password on stdin |
| 21:43 | <mdz> | you can either specify the password on the command line, or it tries to read it from the tty |
| 21:44 | <mdz> | it's lame |
| 21:45 | <brunes> | wow, 2 gigs for a 1 hr program |
| 21:45 | <brunes> | im gonna have to get a bigger drive :) |
| 21:46 | <TechJosh> | i just got a new drive |
| 21:46 | <TechJosh> | my old one bit the dust |
| 21:49 | <brunes> | doe smythtv skip commercials during recording? |
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| 21:49 | <Universe> | no |
| 21:49 | <Universe> | you can skip through them tho |
| 21:49 | <brunes> | well yah |
| 21:50 | <Universe> | if it were easy to do, Tivo would be doing it... |
| 21:50 | <Universe> | well |
| 21:50 | <Universe> | maybe not |
| 21:50 | <brunes> | well, how do those VCR's do it? |
| 21:51 | <KeyserSoze> | anyone using a Via EPIA motherboard/cpu? |
| 21:51 | <Universe> | you will be able to edit them out yourself... That part is next to be put in |
| 21:51 | <KeyserSoze> | i'm curious if it has enough CPU power for decoding divx (or mpeg2, for that matter) |
| 21:52 | <Universe> | brunes... that was discussed a few days ago... |
| 21:52 | <Universe> | we aren't for sure.. |
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| 21:52 | <knoxx> | hi guys |
| 21:52 | <knoxx> | anyone think they could give me a little help getting my sound working? |
| 21:52 | <brunes> | doesit it work by detecting the blank black frames just before and after the commercials? |
| 21:53 | <TechJosh> | is there closed captioning on commercials? |
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| 21:54 | <nyquiljer> | knoxx: like getting sound working for the first time? |
| 21:54 | <knoxx> | yeah ... for mythtv of course |
| 21:55 | <knoxx> | i am using emu10k1 for my audigy ... and its worked fine |
| 21:55 | <knoxx> | but i get no sound on anything in mythtv |
| 21:55 | <nyquiljer> | you have your tuner sound patch cable plugged into line-in? |
| 21:57 | <TechJosh> | you have to set the record input to the tuner audio source (line 1?) and turn up the wave audio channel... had the same thing with my comp. |
| 21:57 | <knoxx> | well ... i have an internal cable from tv card -> aux_in on sound card |
| 21:57 | <knoxx> | should i use an external cable? |
| 21:58 | <TechJosh> | not nessisary |
| 21:58 | <nyquiljer> | also you have to mute the aux_in, right? |
| 21:58 | <TechJosh> | just make sure that you know what the input is |
| 21:58 | <TechJosh> | yeah |
| 21:58 | <TechJosh> | mute the tuner source, set it to record from the tuner source |
| 21:59 | <TechJosh> | and make sure that the wave volume level is uo |
| 21:59 | <TechJosh> | uo -> up |
| 21:59 | <knoxx> | k ... all this i should be able to to in aumix right? |
| 21:59 | <TechJosh> | i think so |
| 21:59 | <nyquiljer> | knoxx: yeh |
| 21:59 | <TechJosh> | i just use kmix |
| 21:59 | <nyquiljer> | press space on the input to select it to record from |
| 22:00 | <nyquiljer> | and i think m to mute |
| 22:01 | <knoxx> | hmm ... still doesn't seem to want to work |
| 22:01 | <knoxx> | i'll try an exterior cable though |
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| 22:28 | <knoxx> | ugh ... still no sound :( |
| 22:29 | <nyquiljer> | but you do get sound in another tv application? |
| 22:29 | <knoxx> | no ... not in xawtv |
| 22:29 | <billytwowilly> | ah hah! |
| 22:29 | <billytwowilly> | sorry... |
| 22:29 | <nyquiljer> | what kind of tuner? |
| 22:29 | <knoxx> | wintv 401 |
| 22:30 | <nyquiljer> | oh |
| 22:30 | <nyquiljer> | try unloading all the bttv modules |
| 22:30 | <nyquiljer> | and then do 'modprobe bttv tuner=2 card=2' |
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| 22:33 | <knoxx> | nothing |
| 22:33 | <knoxx> | bttv is loading tuner,tvaudio,msp3400,bttv |
| 22:33 | <billytwowilly> | quick question: as far as you guys know, is anyone actively developing a mythmovie module for playing dvds and divx? |
| 22:33 | <knoxx> | all loaded cleanly |
| 22:34 | <nyquiljer> | knoxx: hmm, ive never seen tvaudio |
| 22:35 | <knoxx> | well ... i am using gentoo ... so i actually just did an "emerge xawtv" |
| 22:35 | <knoxx> | and it was compiled for me |
| 22:35 | <knoxx> | 3.73-r1 |
| 22:35 | <nyquiljer> | now i really dont know what to tell you :) |
| 22:35 | <knoxx> | its really the same as compiling yourself though |
| 22:36 | <brtb> | knoxx - wintv 401... that's the one with FM right? |
| 22:36 | <knoxx> | yup |
| 22:36 | <brtb> | and your internal line goes from the output on the card to the aux on the soundcard, correct? |
| 22:36 | <knoxx> | correct |
| 22:37 | <knoxx> | i actually have it both internal ... and external right now :/ |
| 22:37 | <brtb> | that card has what looks like two outputs... are you using the black or white one? =] |
| 22:38 | <knoxx> | not sure |
| 22:38 | <knoxx> | it has 2 coax connectors |
| 22:38 | <brtb> | well the base test would be, hook your speakers (or headphones) right into the line out on the back of the tv card, does it come out of there? |
| 22:38 | <knoxx> | and 2 mini-jack |
| 22:38 | <knoxx> | and 1 IR |
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| 22:38 | <knoxx> | yes ... sound does come straight from the tv card |
| 22:38 | <knoxx> | i was using that last nigh |
| 22:38 | <knoxx> | but i switched it back today and found the sound wasn't working through my sound card |
| 22:39 | <brtb> | does the soundcard play any sound at all? |
| 22:39 | <knoxx> | yes |
| 22:40 | <knoxx> | sound works fine |
| 22:40 | <knoxx> | /dev/dsp |
| 22:40 | <knoxx> | xmms works |
| 22:40 | <knoxx> | haven't had any problems |
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| 22:40 | <knoxx> | i am listening to the sound from the tv card now ... its working fine |
| 22:43 | <brtb> | heh |
| 22:44 | <brtb> | mute the aux input and set it to record from there and you should be all set |
| 22:44 | <knoxx> | thats what I tried doing in aumix ... but it didn't work |
| 22:45 | <brtb> | if you have kmix try that |
| 22:45 | <knoxx> | is that for kde? |
| 22:45 | <billytwowilly> | kmix worked for me. |
| 22:45 | <billytwowilly> | for some reason it was the cd in though. |
| 22:45 | <knoxx> | cuz i don't have kde or gnome |
| 22:45 | <brtb> | yeah it is |
| 22:45 | <brtb> | unfortunately |
| 22:46 | <nyquiljer> | aumix i think only works with alsa |
| 22:47 | <knoxx> | ah |
| 22:47 | <knoxx> | well then that wouldn't work |
| 22:47 | <nyquiljer> | at least i could only get it to work with kmix after i swtiched to OSS from ALSA |
| 22:47 | <brtb> | that's... entirely possible, hadn't thought of that |
| 22:47 | <billytwowilly> | what do you use for a desktop? |
| 22:47 | <knoxx> | windowmaker |
| 22:47 | <knoxx> | with just xdm |
| 22:47 | <billytwowilly> | ahh. |
| 22:48 | <billytwowilly> | Well, I'm out of ideas.. sorry.. (that's assuming I had any to begin with;) |
| 22:49 | <knoxx> | damn |
| 22:49 | <knoxx> | i just muted everything except for speakers and vol |
| 22:49 | <knoxx> | and its still not working |
| 22:51 | <knoxx> | i think aumix works though |
| 22:51 | <knoxx> | it can mute my output fine |
| 22:52 | <knoxx> | are there any special libraries that I may be missing |
| 22:52 | <knoxx> | i remember something about alsa-oss conversion from somewhere |
| 22:52 | <brtb> | does it just play out of aux? |
| 22:52 | <brtb> | if you unmute it? |
| 22:53 | <knoxx> | ummm ... i don't understand what you mean |
| 22:54 | <brtb> | if you activate the tuner, it should play out of aux directly, without going through thr record-deencode step in mythtv |
| 22:55 | <knoxx> | so you mean connecting my speakers to the tv tuner? |
| 22:55 | <brtb> | if you connect speakers to the tv tuner you get sound, correct? |
| 22:55 | <knoxx> | yes |
| 22:55 | <knoxx> | tv card has sound by itself |
| 22:56 | <knoxx> | and my sound card works by itself |
| 22:56 | <knoxx> | but for some reason they won't share :( |
| 22:57 | <brtb> | ok, so the soundcard isn't accepting the input. you've tried an external cable from the tv card to the line-in on the audigy? |
| 22:57 | <knoxx> | yes |
| 22:57 | <brtb> | nothing when you enable the line-in volume? |
| 22:58 | <knoxx> | no |
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| 22:58 | <nyquiljer> | you certain youre plugged into the line-in on the soundcard? |
| 22:58 | <brtb> | it's something about your soundcard |
| 22:59 | <knoxx> | yeah ... i am |
| 22:59 | <knoxx> | i just looked up the documentation to be sure |
| 23:00 | <brtb> | possible the emu10k1 isn't recognizing the audigy inputs correctly? |
| 23:00 | <brtb> | the emu10k1 module I mean |
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| 23:00 | <knoxx> | yeah ... i am starting to think that |
| 23:01 | <brtb> | newest thing I've ever tried on that module is a sb live |
| 23:01 | <knoxx> | so if i have my portable cd player connected to line-in on my sound card |
| 23:01 | <knoxx> | it should play right? |
| 23:01 | <brtb> | yes |
| 23:01 | <brtb> | just keep the volume on the cdplayer relatively low |
| 23:02 | <knoxx> | do i have to set record to the correct line-in? |
| 23:02 | <brtb> | to playback no |
| 23:02 | <brtb> | you should be able to listen just with it unmuted |
| 23:02 | <knoxx> | yeah ... thats not working |
| 23:03 | <knoxx> | :( |
| 23:03 | <brtb> | what kernel version? |
| 23:03 | <knoxx> | 2.4.20_pre11 |
| 23:03 | <brtb> | hm |
| 23:04 | <brtb> | my 2.4.18 emu10k1 driver doesn't say anything about audigy anywhere |
| 23:04 | <knoxx> | yeah ... i think its rather new |
| 23:04 | <knoxx> | and probably not fully supported |
| 23:07 | <knoxx> | should i try changing the output from digital to analog? |
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| 23:44 | <fcake> | oh boy |
| 23:45 | <fcake> | now i get my sound working ... and i can't change channels anymore |
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| 23:58 | <fcake> | i don't understand how mute/rec on the sound card input should work |
| 23:58 | <fcake> | when i load my bttv drivers |
| 23:58 | <fcake> | the sound starts going through my line input |
| 23:59 | <fcake> | but then nothing else can use my dsp device |
