| 00:01 | <zytta> | I am sure |
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| 00:21 | <Chutt> | there, that's fixed in cvs as well |
| 00:21 | <Chutt> | that was probably ant's problem =) |
| 00:55 | <TardisX> | Is the mysql optimizations that Erik Arendse posted about a few days ago in CVS? |
| 00:55 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 00:55 | <TardisX> | excellent |
| 00:56 | <Chutt> | and something that worked almost as well was in CVS several days before that |
| 00:56 | <TardisX> | aah OK :-) |
| 00:56 | <TardisX> | I'll have to install the new version and give it a go |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | doh, i forgot to ask nyquiljer to modify the arrow .pngs a little |
| 01:11 | <zytta> | hoi |
| 01:11 | <zytta> | I need to get scantv to work. |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | hey |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | still haven't? |
| 01:11 | <zytta> | I can't get my tv-card to work, well it probably works, just can't search anything in |
| 01:12 | <zytta> | I haven't touched it since I talked ot you last. |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 01:12 | <zytta> | been busy with school, girl and such heh. |
| 01:12 | <zytta> | :P |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | i see :p |
| 01:14 | <zytta> | my phonebill is going to be huge. |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | calling far away again? |
| 01:15 | <zytta> | Yeah. |
| 01:15 | <zytta> | but video conferencing works ;) |
| 01:15 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:15 | <zytta> | like, it's cheaper |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | i bet |
| 01:25 | <zytta> | hm |
| 01:25 | -!- | zytta has changed the topic to: http://www.mythtv.org/ |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:29 | <Chutt> | was it just empty before? |
| 01:29 | <zytta> | yep |
| 01:30 | -!- | zytta has changed the topic to: http://www.mythtv.org/ -- The Cheaper, High-Quality Alternative |
| 01:30 | <zytta> | :) |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | well |
| 01:30 | <Chutt> | i think 'cheaper' is debatable =) |
| 01:31 | <Chutt> | the amount of computer parts required to do this stuff puts it right up around the price of a hardware unit |
| 01:32 | <brtb> | Yeah, but if you already have the parts.... might as well use them =] |
| 01:33 | <Chutt> | brtb, the upgrade fixed the crash on playback? |
| 01:35 | <brtb> | that and the font fix |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | right |
| 01:36 | <TardisX> | isn't it some insane time of day for you chutt? |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | good |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | 1:36 am |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | about to head off to bed |
| 01:36 | <TardisX> | OK not tooo insane |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 01:36 | <TardisX> | whereabouts are you? |
| 01:36 | <Chutt> | know where cleveland, ohio is? |
| 01:37 | <TardisX> | no :-( |
| 01:37 | <TardisX> | well |
| 01:37 | <TardisX> | USA |
| 01:37 | <TardisX> | :-) |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:37 | <TardisX> | left right or middle? |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | top, rightish |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | west of new york, easy of chicago |
| 01:37 | <Chutt> | east |
| 01:38 | <TardisX> | OK... vaguely familiar, from my flight simming :-) |
| 01:38 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:38 | <Chutt> | anyway, near there |
| 01:38 | <zytta> | night chutt. |
| 01:38 | <zytta> | I'm off to school. |
| 01:38 | <TardisX> | I should visit the US sometime. |
| 01:39 | <TardisX> | I hear all the bad press, but I'm sure there is some good stuff too :-) |
| 01:39 | <zytta> | Norway sucks. |
| 01:39 | <zytta> | 19.4 Farenheit her |
| 01:39 | <zytta> | +e |
| 01:39 | <Chutt> | zytta, have fun =) |
| 01:39 | <TardisX> | eep |
| 01:40 | <zytta> | I will. |
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| 02:26 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: i had tragic need for reinstalling, and thought my home directory was on a drive i formatted, so i lost all the mythtv osd stuff :( |
| 02:27 | <nyquiljer> | er, thought it wasnt on the drive i formatted |
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| 03:29 | <blinx> | Good morning |
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| 11:23 | <Soopaman> | hi |
| 11:26 | <Chutt> | 'morning |
| 11:28 | <Soopaman> | hey chut |
| 11:28 | <Soopaman> | Chutt |
| 11:28 | <Soopaman> | how are things? |
| 11:29 | <Chutt> | fine |
| 11:30 | <Chutt> | working |
| 11:34 | <Soopaman> | you're at work? |
| 11:35 | <Chutt> | essentially |
| 11:41 | <mdz_> | morning, folks |
| 11:42 | <Chutt> | hey |
| 11:45 | <Soopaman> | Chutt, are you really comfortable with how linux works? |
| 11:45 | <Chutt> | like how? |
| 11:46 | <Soopaman> | 'cause i wanted to know if there was a way to automatically detect, format, and mount multiple hardrives on the fly |
| 11:47 | <mdz_> | Soopaman: in that case, the question is are _you_ really comfortable with how linux works :-) |
| 11:48 | <Soopaman> | heheh |
| 11:48 | <Soopaman> | mdz, i am comfortable breaking and sacrificing things in the name of science |
| 11:48 | <Soopaman> | ;) |
| 11:49 | <Soopaman> | but i was curious if it would be an init script |
| 11:49 | <Soopaman> | or something else |
| 11:50 | <Chutt> | you could probably do that in an init script that ran late in the boot |
| 11:53 | <mdz_> | Soopaman: what is your goal in doing this? what would you like to do with these disks that you want to automatically detect, format and mount? |
| 11:56 | <Soopaman> | they are to act as video/music storage space |
| 11:56 | <Soopaman> | because the main hd with the app and etc on it is a cf card |
| 12:36 | <mdz_> | sounds like you want a volume manager |
| 12:37 | <mdz_> | would the disks be added only while the system is powered off, or hotplugged (USB, e.g.) |
| 12:38 | <Soopaman> | more than likely off |
| 12:39 | <Soopaman> | 'cause usb/hotplugged devices probably wouldn't have enough throughput |
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| 13:01 | <mdz_> | a simple init script would do the job, then |
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| 13:03 | <Soopaman> | cool... |
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| 14:29 | <billytwowilly> | hey, anyone around? |
| 14:30 | <vektor> | kinda :) |
| 14:30 | <billytwowilly> | that's what I thought... |
| 14:30 | <billytwowilly> | when are people usually around on here? |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | All the time. |
| 14:31 | <billytwowilly> | I don't have time now, but I would like to know when A good time to come back to get some help setting up mythtv would be. |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | It's just quiet, then someone says something, and then it just starts up. |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | Depends if people happen to be around or not. |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | You just have to get lucky :) |
| 14:31 | <billytwowilly> | ahh, ok, well I'll be back in an hour or two and try to get lucky then;) |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | I think evenings EST is a good bet. |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | ah ok :) |
| 14:31 | <vektor> | youmight have good changes then :) |
| 14:32 | <billytwowilly> | cool, cool. I'll have to try and set up mythtv once more before I come for help. It's been so long since I tried that I can't even remember what my problem was;) |
| 14:32 | <TinWork> | heh |
| 14:32 | <TinWork> | just ask the question and you will get someone to respond sooner or later |
| 14:33 | <billytwowilly> | yar, but I want to optimize my chances for sooner;) |
| 14:33 | <TinWork> | there is no telling with this group of people... |
| 14:33 | <TinWork> | hmm... |
| 14:33 | <billytwowilly> | heh, ok. well I'll be back in an hour or three. ciao. |
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| 14:34 | <billytwowilly> | I'll just start babbling about the amazing growth I discovered on my toe until someone breaks down and helps me;) |
| 14:34 | * billytwowilly | is away: I'm busy |
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| 15:55 | <Chutt> | mdz, thanks for that email reply to the list |
| 15:55 | <mdz_> | no problem |
| 15:55 | <mdz_> | too many people on the mythtv list run debian |
| 15:55 | <mdz_> | it messes up my scoring |
| 15:55 | <Chutt> | scoring? |
| 15:56 | <mdz_> | I sort messages based on some keyword heuristics |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 15:56 | <mdz_> | so that, for example, when someone reports a Debian bug and mentions one of the packages that I maintain, I read it |
| 15:56 | <Chutt> | right |
| 15:57 | <mdz_> | I tend to watch for Debian on the mailing lists for packages that I maintain debs for, so that I catch people who are reporting problems with them |
| 15:57 | <Universe__> | good idea |
| 15:58 | <mdz_> | I've been thinking of packaging it up so that other people could use it, but I'm ashamed of the mess of procmail and m4 that is involved |
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| 15:58 | <mdz_> | (that's right, I said m4) |
| 15:58 | <Chutt> | nastiness |
| 15:59 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 15:59 | <mdz_> | I wish procmail supported sgrep style regexes |
| 16:00 | <mdz_> | then it could get really nasty |
| 16:02 | <Chutt> | all i have left to do for the edit ui is an indicator if you're at a marked to be deleted frame |
| 16:04 | <Chutt> | then i can make it actually use the stuff for playback =) |
| 16:04 | <mdz_> | yeehaw |
| 16:05 | <mdz_> | what's the idea behind the indicator if you're at a to-be-deleted frame? |
| 16:05 | <mdz_> | shouldn't that be clear from the position indicator being in the red area/ |
| 16:05 | <billytwowilly> | would you recommend a newbie try and install mythtv from cvs or fromt the latest release? even though it's gotta be a bit outdated by now.. |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | mdz, yeah, but this'll make it even clearer |
| 16:06 | <Chutt> | my policy is that CVS is for people willing to debug things themselves, at the very least |
| 16:07 | <mdz_> | billytwowilly: I'd say stick with the release unless you are comfortable debugging |
| 16:07 | <mdz_> | what Chutt said |
| 16:07 | <billytwowilly> | ahh, ok, so since I'm not comfortable debugging I'll use the release, am I right that it's a bit outdated though? |
| 16:07 | <Chutt> | it's not that outdated. |
| 16:08 | <billytwowilly> | ok, hey, so who on here is the actual guy that started developing mythtv? |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | me |
| 16:08 | <billytwowilly> | nifty. have you taken a look at freevo? that's the other pvr software I'm following. |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | calling it a 'pvr' is being extremely nice |
| 16:08 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 16:09 | <billytwowilly> | heh. |
| 16:09 | <billytwowilly> | well I couldn't get either program to work... |
| 16:09 | <billytwowilly> | I'll probably be back on here in half an hour (after I try and install mythtv again) asking questions. |
| 16:09 | <Chutt> | good luck getting answers |
| 16:10 | <billytwowilly> | yah, that's the feeling I've been getting about both projects.. |
| 16:10 | <Chutt> | most likely, any problems you'll have will be related to xmltv |
| 16:11 | <mdz_> | ...unless you're running Debian and can install the packages :-) |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | there is that, yes |
| 16:11 | <mdz_> | speaking of which, I need to get back to that guy |
| 16:11 | <billytwowilly> | I run mandrake 9. |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | mdz, so if i put out 0.7 this weekend, can i get .debs of it all? |
| 16:11 | <mdz_> | he said he rolled in the last set of fixes I requested |
| 16:11 | <mdz_> | Chutt: depends on how early in the weekend :-P |
| 16:11 | <Chutt> | billytwowilly, what's your email address? |
| 16:12 | <Chutt> | billytwowilly, someone just emailed me a pretty much step-by-step on getting it running on mandrake 9 |
| 16:12 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: sweet. |
| 16:12 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: you should post it on your website. |
| 16:12 | <mdz_> | the mysql magic will likely take some time to get right |
| 16:12 | <Chutt> | it'll be in the distribution eventually |
| 16:13 | <billytwowilly> | it'll probably take the same amount of time as emailing it to me and it'll help more people. |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | but i'll just forward it to you for now, k? |
| 16:13 | <billytwowilly> | ok. |
| 16:13 | <billytwowilly> | billytwowilly@hotmail.com |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | well, i need to go through and look it over and stuff before i publish it |
| 16:13 | <billytwowilly> | and thank you. |
| 16:13 | <mdz_> | if 0.7 is coming up, I will have some motivation to work on that part |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | it is |
| 16:13 | <Chutt> | probably this weekend |
| 16:13 | <billytwowilly> | sweet. |
| 16:14 | <Chutt> | ok, that readme is forwarded to you |
| 16:14 | <billytwowilly> | thanks. |
| 16:28 | <mdz_> | the trouble is that there is currently no standard way to add new templates to a package at build time |
| 16:28 | <mdz_> | and that is something I had planned to work out with joeyh |
| 16:29 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 16:29 | <Chutt> | well |
| 16:29 | <Chutt> | can i at least say 'debian packages are forthcoming' when i put the release out? |
| 16:30 | <mdz_> | certainly |
| 16:32 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: so far that walkthrough is working great. |
| 16:32 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: gives great step by step. |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | good |
| 16:32 | <billytwowilly> | it's too detailed even for me;) |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:34 | <billytwowilly> | so far there's only one thing i'd change and that's just because when he tells you to switch to your home directory he puts his home directory instead of /home/yourhomedirectory he put /home/rjudjodaklj or something... |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 16:43 | <billytwowilly> | still going good.. at the installing xmltv part. |
| 16:46 | <mdz_> | "John" did not answer my question at all |
| 16:46 | <Chutt> | of course he didn't |
| 16:47 | <mdz_> | there was only one thing in my email with a question mark after it |
| 16:47 | <mdz_> | and there was definitely a question mark there |
| 16:47 | <billytwowilly> | ok.. slight problem.. compiling myth tv I got this error:make[1]: *** [sub-postprocess] Error 2 |
| 16:47 | <billytwowilly> | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/downloads/mythtv-0.6/filters' |
| 16:47 | <billytwowilly> | make: *** [sub-filters] Error 2 |
| 16:47 | <mdz_> | perhaps he untarred pieces of the XFree86 binary distribution over the X 4.1.0 from woody |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | edit filters/filters.pro |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | remove the 'postprocess' from the end of the line there |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | remake |
| 16:48 | <billytwowilly> | ok. so then there's a slight prob with the file you sent, or is that just unique to me? |
| 16:48 | <Chutt> | not unique to you, but only happens to a couple people |
| 16:49 | <mdz_> | "I moved the drive to another machine, took all the same steps that I won't describe, and it still happened" |
| 16:49 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:49 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: any idea why, or is jut one of those funny quirks you get trying to make a program to run on multiple distributions? |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | it's a gcc/cpu type issue |
| 16:50 | <billytwowilly> | oh ok.. specific to athlons? |
| 16:50 | <Chutt> | not exactly sure |
| 16:50 | <billytwowilly> | because that's what I'm running if it helps you out. |
| 16:51 | <billytwowilly> | you want system specs? |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | naw, that's allright |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | just not compiling that part of it is fine, really |
| 16:51 | <billytwowilly> | ok. if there's anything you can walk me through that will help you fix the prob though, just email me. |
| 16:51 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 16:56 | <billytwowilly> | uhh. where in the mythtv readme am I supposed to pick up from after that file you sent me? |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | i didn't read it |
| 16:57 | <billytwowilly> | heh. |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | just skimmed it over when i got it a couple hours ago |
| 16:57 | <billytwowilly> | at the end it tells you to pick up in the readme... |
| 16:58 | <mdz_> | start at the beginning |
| 16:58 | <mdz_> | and when you get to a step that you haven't already done, go |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | probably after it tells you to do a 'make install' in the real readme |
| 16:58 | <Chutt> | and skip the stuff that you've already done |
| 16:59 | <billytwowilly> | ok, I think i've got it. thanks. |
| 17:45 | <billytwowilly> | hmm. ok. I've got a couple more questions.. |
| 17:46 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: you around man? |
| 17:48 | <billytwowilly> | ok, I just got mythtv to work, but the sound is messed up. when I pause the tv the sound doesn't pause and when I shut down mythtv the sound doesn't go off. |
| 17:48 | <billytwowilly> | I have to run xawtv to get the sound to shut off. |
| 17:49 | <universe> | you dont have your mixer setup correctly |
| 17:49 | <universe> | you want to mute line in and set it to be the recording device |
| 17:49 | <billytwowilly> | ok. I should also tell you that I have the tv tuner card hooked right into the sound card. |
| 17:50 | <billytwowilly> | I didn't run a line from line out to line in on the sound card when I installed it. |
| 17:50 | <universe> | there is still a line in settings for that input billytwowilly... |
| 17:50 | <universe> | in the mixer |
| 17:50 | <billytwowilly> | ok.. where is the mixer? in mythtv? |
| 17:50 | <universe> | in linux |
| 17:50 | <universe> | kmix if you are running kde |
| 17:51 | <billytwowilly> | can I mess with it with kmix? |
| 17:51 | <universe> | you can |
| 17:51 | <billytwowilly> | ok. if I open it up can you tell me what to do? or is there an app you prefer to use? |
| 17:55 | <billytwowilly> | ok.. if i open up kmix, select muted and record source I get no sound.. if I unselect muted I have the same problem as before. |
| 17:57 | <universe> | ok |
| 17:57 | <universe> | you want to set mute on your line in from your tuner card |
| 17:57 | <universe> | and set it to record... |
| 17:58 | <universe> | there will be another volume option for volume on the playback |
| 17:58 | <universe> | I forget what its called |
| 17:58 | <mdz_> | probably PCM |
| 17:59 | <billytwowilly> | PCM? |
| 17:59 | <billytwowilly> | all I've got is a little button in the corner that looks like a speaker... |
| 17:59 | <billytwowilly> | when I put on the kmix applet I get a whole bunch of slide bars... |
| 18:00 | <billytwowilly> | i'm guessing each slide bar is for a different audio source right??? |
| 18:00 | <billytwowilly> | which one would be PCM? |
| 18:01 | <mdz_> | the one labeled 'PCM' |
| 18:01 | <mdz_> | most likely |
| 18:01 | <billytwowilly> | heh.. no labels... |
| 18:01 | <mdz_> | umm |
| 18:01 | <mdz_> | if there are no labels, how can you tell them apart? |
| 18:01 | <billytwowilly> | exactly;) |
| 18:01 | <billytwowilly> | I can't... |
| 18:02 | <billytwowilly> | I'm looking off the kmix applet in kde... is there a way to get more verbose kmix? |
| 18:02 | <billytwowilly> | can I start it as an independent app? |
| 18:02 | <billytwowilly> | nm. I figured it out.. restore from the kmix speaker in kicker. |
| 18:03 | <billytwowilly> | ok. I found PCM |
| 18:05 | <billytwowilly> | so I set it to mute and then record? |
| 18:05 | <universe> | no |
| 18:05 | <universe> | PCM is your playback volume |
| 18:05 | <universe> | you unmute it and turn it up |
| 18:05 | <universe> | you mute line in and set it to record |
| 18:08 | <billytwowilly> | ok... I don't have a line in but here's what I do have: line, microphone, cd, line1, phone in, video |
| 18:08 | <universe> | ok... which one controls the volume for xawtv? |
| 18:09 | <universe> | you want to mute that one and set it to record |
| 18:10 | <billytwowilly> | I think I figured it out.. the CD one when it is muted and set to record and igain is turned up the syncing problem goes away |
| 18:10 | <billytwowilly> | thanks for the help. |
| 18:10 | <universe> | np |
| 18:10 | <billytwowilly> | sweet, it appears to work. |
| 18:11 | <universe> | appears? heh |
| 18:11 | <billytwowilly> | still a bit of popping when I fast forward/ rewind, but i'm guessing that's normal no? |
| 18:12 | <universe> | I dont have that |
| 18:13 | <billytwowilly> | well it's more of a bit of dead space in the recording rather than popping. |
| 18:13 | <billytwowilly> | bit of dead space, bit of audio, then bit of dead space than normal. all over about a second.. |
| 18:13 | <universe> | well... |
| 18:13 | <mdz_> | and then after a few seconds it smooths out? |
| 18:14 | <billytwowilly> | yah. |
| 18:14 | <billytwowilly> | one or two seconds and it's fine. |
| 18:14 | <mdz_> | that is more or less normal |
| 18:14 | <universe> | you have to consider, you are running through frames at a fast rate |
| 18:14 | <mdz_> | it may be avoidable |
| 18:14 | <universe> | and it plays that bit of audio |
| 18:14 | <universe> | the frame it does play |
| 18:14 | <billytwowilly> | heh, it's fine;) thanks guys. |
| 18:15 | <billytwowilly> | yah, the frames it does play get audio |
| 18:17 | <billytwowilly> | so can mythtv play videos and mp3s you have on your computer as well? |
| 18:17 | <billytwowilly> | dvd? |
| 18:19 | <billytwowilly> | wait. mp3 is handled by mythmusic... heh.. sorry. |
| 18:19 | <billytwowilly> | dumb question. |
| 18:22 | <billytwowilly> | how do I exit out of mythtvfrontend? it isn't in the faq or the readme... |
| 18:22 | <TardisX> | you don't :-) |
| 18:22 | <TardisX> | or, find the xterm you ran it from, hit CTRL+C |
| 18:23 | <universe> | mythtvfrontend is made to never end... because its suppose to be a system by itself, running it all the time |
| 18:23 | <TechJosh> | alt + f4 |
| 18:23 | <Soopaman> | indeed |
| 18:23 | <billytwowilly> | hurray! |
| 18:23 | <billytwowilly> | thanks TechJosh |
| 18:24 | <Soopaman> | billytwowilly, you are racking up your tech help costs |
| 18:24 | <TechJosh> | np |
| 18:24 | <Soopaman> | i would read the faq before you keep asking silly questions |
| 18:24 | <Soopaman> | :P |
| 18:24 | <billytwowilly> | Soopaman: bill me;) |
| 18:24 | <universe> | aye... I just need to know where to send the bill |
| 18:24 | <TechJosh> | one of the VERY few things i know about it... |
| 18:24 | <billytwowilly> | uhh.. 123 fake st. |
| 18:24 | <billytwowilly> | yah.. that's it;) |
| 18:25 | <billytwowilly> | in faketown, Fakecountry;) |
| 18:32 | <universe> | Hmm |
| 18:32 | <universe> | Calgary... |
| 18:32 | <universe> | CA? |
| 18:33 | <billytwowilly> | huh? |
| 18:33 | <universe> | You are in Canada? |
| 18:33 | <billytwowilly> | no... I'm in Fakecountry;) |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | canada roxorz! |
| 18:33 | <billytwowilly> | yah.. Canada. |
| 18:33 | <universe> | heh... |
| 18:33 | <billytwowilly> | I know;) |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | billytwowilly: where in canada? |
| 18:33 | <billytwowilly> | I live here;) |
| 18:33 | <universe> | Near Calgary? |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | oh, faketown? |
| 18:33 | <billytwowilly> | vektor: If I tell you are you gonna send me a bill??;) |
| 18:33 | <vektor> | hell yea! |
| 18:34 | <billytwowilly> | Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
| 18:34 | <billytwowilly> | cowtown is south of us about three hours. |
| 18:34 | <universe> | well... I know you use Shaw Cablesystems |
| 18:35 | <billytwowilly> | Yah, they suck.. although I hear the cable guys in the states suck more. |
| 18:35 | <vektor> | dish network kicks my ass |
| 18:35 | <vektor> | give me some of that cartoon network lovin |
| 18:35 | <vektor> | teletoon sucks my behind |
| 18:35 | <TechJosh> | COX cable rocks... |
| 18:36 | <TechJosh> | good service, good rates |
| 18:36 | <Soopaman> | pure poop |
| 18:36 | <TechJosh> | dont get on you for having a router... |
| 18:37 | <billytwowilly> | heh. My guys limit your monthly bandwidth allowance.. |
| 18:37 | <billytwowilly> | pisses me off. |
| 18:38 | <universe> | I will just messing around... trying to freak you out... |
| 18:38 | <universe> | trace you down and send a bill to ya |
| 18:38 | <universe> | :-P |
| 18:38 | <billytwowilly> | heh. go right ahead;) I'll sue you for pain and suffering;) And if I sue you in the states I'll probably win;) |
| 18:39 | <universe> | lol... |
| 18:39 | <universe> | sue me for pulling up public information? |
| 18:39 | <billytwowilly> | nope, for sending me a bill;) |
| 18:39 | <universe> | oh.. |
| 18:39 | <TechJosh> | no, sue you for guessing a hyperlink |
| 18:40 | <billytwowilly> | yah;) that too;) cough cough;) |
| 18:40 | <universe> | for billing you for technical support? |
| 18:40 | <universe> | lol |
| 18:41 | <billytwowilly> | yah;) we dont' have a contract, so seeing a bill I didn't agree to would cause pain and suffering;) and any judge in the US would agree;) |
| 18:41 | <billytwowilly> | silly american legal system... |
| 18:41 | <universe> | sure... |
| 18:41 | <billytwowilly> | it's true;) |
| 18:41 | <billytwowilly> | that's why it's funny;) |
| 18:42 | <universe> | you think a canadian will last in the US court system? |
| 18:42 | <universe> | heh |
| 18:42 | <billytwowilly> | with an american lawyer;) |
| 18:42 | <billytwowilly> | they go cheap these days;) with a case like this he'd probably work for a portion of the winnings;) |
| 18:52 | <billytwowilly> | hmm. speaking of free tech support... |
| 18:52 | <billytwowilly> | one last question. mythmusic won't install for me. |
| 18:52 | <billytwowilly> | should I post the error here? |
| 18:52 | <billytwowilly> | or do people get annoyed with that? |
| 18:53 | <Chutt> | just paste it |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cc1plus: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | In file included from cddecoder.cpp:11: |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.h:6:21: cdaudio.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.h:8:28: cdda_interface.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.h:9:27: cdda_paranoia.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | In file included from cddecoder.cpp:11: |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.h:54: syntax error before `*' token |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.h:55: syntax error before `*' token |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp: In constructor `CdDecoder::CdDecoder(const QString&, DecoderFactory*, QIODevice*, Output*)': |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:44: `device' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:44: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:45: `paranoia' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp: In member function `virtual bool CdDecoder::initialize()': |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:130: `cdda_identify' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:53 | <Chutt> | guess i should've just said 'paste the beginning'. |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:134: `cdda_open' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:136: `cdda_close' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:53 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:140: `CDDA_MESSAGE_FORGETIT' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:140: `cdda_verbose_set' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:141: `cdda_track_firstsector' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:142: `cdda_track_lastsector' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:150: `paranoia_init' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:151: `PARANOIA_MODE_OVERLAP' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:151: `paranoia_modeset' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:152: `paranoia_seek' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:156: `CD_FRAMESAMPLES' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp: In member function `void CdDecoder::deinit()': |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:173: `paranoia_free' undeclared (first use this function) |
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| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp: In member function `virtual void CdDecoder::run()': |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:228: `paranoia_read' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | cddecoder.cpp:231: `CD_FRAMESIZE_ |
| 18:54 | <-- Chutt | has kicked universe from #mythtv (Chutt) |
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| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | heh, sorry, that's why I asked, it's big;) |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | oops |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | from that I assume it thinks I don't have cdparanoia right? but I do... |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | universe, sorry, i'm not sure how that happened |
| 18:54 | <Chutt> | :/ |
| 18:54 | <billytwowilly> | and it's the same version quoted in the readme. |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | obviously, you don't. |
| 18:55 | <billytwowilly> | it's in kpackage |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | the -dev package too? |
| 18:55 | <Chutt> | doubt it |
| 18:56 | <billytwowilly> | ahh. the readme doesn't say anything about the dev package. |
| 18:56 | <billytwowilly> | one second. |
| 18:56 | <Chutt> | it's kindof assumed |
| 18:56 | <Chutt> | and the error messages there are pretty obvious |
| 18:56 | <billytwowilly> | heh my favorite quote "assumption is the mother of all fuck ups";) |
| 18:56 | <universe> | sure |
| 18:56 | <universe> | you dont want me in here.. |
| 18:56 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | no, i clicked on him, but it kicked you |
| 18:57 | <universe> | heh |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | so, i dunno |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | sorry =) |
| 18:57 | <universe> | its ok |
| 18:57 | <universe> | I will let it slide this time |
| 19:00 | <billytwowilly> | hmm. is the cdparanoia devel stuff called something else? |
| 19:01 | <Chutt> | i wouldn't know |
| 19:09 | <billytwowilly> | hmm. ok, I downloaded cdparanoia from the website in the readme and installed it and mythmusic still doesn't work. |
| 19:10 | <Chutt> | you did something wrong, then. |
| 19:11 | <billytwowilly> | it relatively simple.. ./configure make make install... |
| 19:11 | <billytwowilly> | I'm not entirely sure how I could have messed it up... |
| 19:11 | <billytwowilly> | http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/down.html |
| 19:12 | <billytwowilly> | I went there and got the complete package source and compiled and installed it. |
| 19:12 | <billytwowilly> | what am I missing?? |
| 19:12 | <billytwowilly> | do I have to do something with the binary? |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | it's using a library |
| 19:13 | <Chutt> | why would you have to do something to the binary? |
| 19:14 | <billytwowilly> | there's a binary on that page as well. |
| 19:14 | <billytwowilly> | second choice. |
| 19:14 | <billytwowilly> | I'm wondering if I have to do something with that. |
| 19:14 | <Chutt> | why would you think that would fix things? |
| 19:15 | <billytwowilly> | I dunno. I'm just guessing a reason as to why it isn't working after I installed all the prerequs. |
| 19:15 | <Chutt> | if it says it can't find a header file |
| 19:15 | <Chutt> | the most likely reason is |
| 19:15 | <Chutt> | it can't find the header file. |
| 19:16 | <billytwowilly> | yah, and I'm trying to get the header file. you said that it was because I didn't have cdparanoia installed, so I installed it. |
| 19:17 | <billytwowilly> | it still doesn't work so I'm trying to figure out how to fix it. |
| 19:18 | <Chutt> | trying to figure something out doesn't involve asking questions on an irc channel |
| 19:19 | <billytwowilly> | Yes it does. If you don't ask questions of people with more experience than you then you are a fool. |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | no, it doesn't. |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | this isn't your personal tech support channel |
| 19:19 | <billytwowilly> | I never said it was. |
| 19:19 | <Chutt> | you're acting like it is, though |
| 19:20 | <billytwowilly> | no I'm not. If I thought it was my personal tech support channle I'd be making demands, not asking questions. |
| 19:30 | <Soopaman> | damn stupid piece of pooop |
| 19:30 | <Soopaman> | i think i may have a falling out with debian |
| 19:34 | <Soopaman> | one second my build environment works |
| 19:34 | <Soopaman> | the next it doesn't |
| 19:34 | <Soopaman> | WHERE IS THE PARITY? |
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| 19:42 | <billytwowilly> | one more quick question. how do I add the mythmusic info to my mysql database? mysql -u root < metadata.sql ? |
| 19:43 | <Chutt> | same way you added the data when you install mythtv |
| 19:43 | <billytwowilly> | which was mysql -u root <mc.sql |
| 19:43 | <billytwowilly> | sorry mysql -u root < mc.sql |
| 19:43 | <billytwowilly> | so I just do that command again? |
| 19:43 | <Soopaman> | Chutt, how viable do you think it is to create a single screened app (ie the video overlay is the only thing used |
| 19:43 | <Chutt> | so it'd follow that 'mysql -u root < metadata.sql' would be the proper command to insert metadata.sql |
| 19:44 | <billytwowilly> | thanks. |
| 19:44 | <Chutt> | soopaman, it'd need a lot of random widgets, if you wanted to do anything complex |
| 19:45 | <billytwowilly> | is that 0-5-to-0-6.sql the musicdb thing referred to in the readme? |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | err, no. |
| 19:45 | <billytwowilly> | wait, that's for upgrading isn't it? |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 19:45 | <billytwowilly> | so metadadata.sql is the only thing I have to add? |
| 19:45 | <Chutt> | right |
| 19:46 | <billytwowilly> | ok, thank you. |
| 19:52 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: sorry for bothering you one last time (I know you think I"m a pain in the butt) but have you put any thought into doing a mythmovie module that can play dvds and movies on the hard drive? |
| 19:55 | <universe> | billytwowilly... this has been dicussed before and he doesn't have a need for it... so he will not be developing it (I think thats what he said)... But I do know others have shown an interest in creating that... So it might be in the works. |
| 19:55 | <Chutt> | some people keep saying they're going to do it |
| 19:56 | <Chutt> | and yeah, i really don't need such a feature |
| 19:56 | <universe> | I like my answer :-P |
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| 19:59 | <Soopaman> | Chutt, what dpo you mean by a bunch of random widgets? |
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| 20:10 | <billytwowilly> | universe: interesting. it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult, all you'd have to do is use mplayer right?? I think lots of the code is already done in freevo. |
| 20:11 | <universe> | but mythtv isn't freevo |
| 20:11 | <universe> | its coded differently |
| 20:11 | <universe> | and mythtv actually has tivo like features |
| 20:11 | <universe> | freevo doesn't yet |
| 20:12 | <Chutt> | billytwowilly, it'd be extremely easy to do, yes |
| 20:13 | <universe> | "IF" you know what you are doing |
| 20:13 | <Chutt> | well, that's a given =) |
| 20:13 | <billytwowilly> | universe: but you don't use any of that tivo stuff for watching movies... you'd basically have to borrow some code from mythmusic to catalogue all the movies on the hard drive, then write some to get mplayer to play whatever you select full screen wouldn't you? |
| 20:13 | <universe> | yep.. |
| 20:13 | <Chutt> | billytwowilly, yup, that's essentially it |
| 20:14 | <universe> | it would work... I just don't know how to do it |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | maybe some disc detection for like vcd/dvd/etc |
| 20:14 | <billytwowilly> | and this is C++ right? |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | but all in all, easy stuff |
| 20:14 | <universe> | C and C++ |
| 20:14 | <universe> | and QT.. |
| 20:14 | <billytwowilly> | can you embed python in C++? |
| 20:14 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | well, probably, but i wouldn't be accepting anything like that |
| 20:15 | <billytwowilly> | heh. darn, cuz if you could you could make an extremely half arsed one without writing too much code, just copying from freevo and mythmusic;) |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | well |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | doing a directory search is like 20 lines of code |
| 20:15 | <Chutt> | putting up a full-screen list of the results isn't much more |
| 20:16 | <vektor> | Chutt: can you do me a favour? |
| 20:16 | <Chutt> | vektor, sure |
| 20:16 | <vektor> | Chutt: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status and tell me what it says |
| 20:16 | <vektor> | trying to debug a nasty nasty problem with geforce2's. |
| 20:16 | <Chutt> | well, which field do you want? |
| 20:16 | <billytwowilly> | Chutt: how much would it cost for me to get you to do it? |
| 20:16 | <Chutt> | i'm using nvidia's agp driver, and have fast writes and sba turned on |
| 20:16 | <vektor> | Fast writes |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | and have it set at 4x |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | a bunch of my users have fast writes disabled |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | and i don't know why |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | is it some option you need to turn on? |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | you have to manually enable it |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | how? |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | same with sba |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | how? |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | it's in the driver docs |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | wow, thanks. |
| 20:17 | <Chutt> | parameter when you insmod the NVdriver |
| 20:17 | <vektor> | holy crap. |
| 20:18 | <Chutt> | NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 |
| 20:19 | <Chutt> | would do it. |
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| 21:18 | <brtb> | umm.... don't think so |
| 21:18 | <brtb> | grrr |
| 21:18 | <brtb> | wrong window, ooops |
| 21:38 | <universe> | hey Chutt... |
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| 21:50 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hmmmmm |
| 21:51 | <brtb> | hmm.... anybody want to take a guess which is the worst bottleneck in my fancy video system: pentium-3 667, ata33 30gb hard drive, onboard intel i810 video |
| 21:54 | <yebyen> | for mythtv? |
| 21:54 | <universe> | on a mythtv system? |
| 21:54 | <yebyen> | definately the p3 |
| 21:54 | <universe> | I was going to say... you need to update that processor... |
| 21:54 | <universe> | if you want anything excep 352x240 rez. |
| 21:54 | <yebyen> | i run 320x240 |
| 21:54 | <yebyen> | on my 700mhz athlon |
| 21:55 | <universe> | I run 352x240 on a 700 pent. |
| 21:55 | <yebyen> | i haven't tried 362 |
| 21:55 | <yebyen> | err 352 |
| 21:56 | <yebyen> | spose it's worth a shot |
| 21:56 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 21:56 | <yebyen> | i can *almost* do 480x480 |
| 21:56 | <universe> | I get too many delays |
| 21:56 | <universe> | in 480x480 |
| 21:56 | <brtb> | yeah, that's my tv system |
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| 21:57 | <brtb> | it almost seems like the HD is what's stopping it though, when it starts thrashing on 480x480 that's when it starts skipping |
| 21:57 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 22:06 | <brtb> | i should load the HD and tuner into my athlon 1800 and see how it works, lol |
| 22:35 | <mdz> | Chutt: I just noticed something interesting |
| 22:35 | <mdz> | Chutt: you know that weird colour artifact that we've seen? |
| 22:35 | <Chutt> | gone now? |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | Chutt: no, better |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | Chutt: I just saw it in mplayer |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | yeah, it's in libavcodec |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | ah, I didn't know whether you knew if it was on the recording side or not |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | were you playing back one of mythtv's files? |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | yes |
| 22:36 | <Chutt> | it's in the recording side |
| 22:36 | <mdz> | I've also found that the sound doesn't sync properly in mplayer...grr |
| 22:37 | <Chutt> | hey, if you get a chance, could you update to current cvs? |
| 22:37 | <mdz> | I'm guessing it's because it's ignoring the sync packets |
| 22:37 | <Chutt> | just so i know that it works for someone else besides me? |
| 22:37 | <mdz> | ok |
| 22:37 | <brtb> | updated since last night? |
| 22:37 | <TardisX> | can you just play the nuv files in mplayer? |
| 22:38 | <Chutt> | tardisx, no, he modified the .nuv loader in mplayer to do the mythtv files |
| 22:38 | <TardisX> | ok |
| 22:38 | <brtb> | yeah i was meaning to ask that too, how you could take the nuvs and use them elsewhere |
| 22:39 | <Chutt> | it's very simple to modify anything that already understands .nuv and can also play back divx files to read mythtv's files |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | building it now |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | I'm starting to wonder how well mplayer understood .nuv in the first place |
| 22:41 | <Chutt> | just remember to do a make clean =) |
| 22:41 | <Chutt> | it didn't very well |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | I may have to do some nvrec captures to nuv format and compare |
| 22:41 | <mdz> | because there are things broken that I do not think I broke |
| 22:41 | <Chutt> | it doesn't attempt to resync things at all |
| 22:41 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 22:42 | <TardisX> | is make clean != make distclean |
| 22:42 | <TardisX> | ? |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | the only thing make distclean does is wipe out all the generated makefiles |
| 22:42 | <Chutt> | well, in addition to what make clean does |
| 22:45 | <brtb> | mandrake installer howto? hmm... i'd make one for slackware but that would probably include the section about "recompile qt 9 times until you finally get it to enable the mysql drivers" |
| 22:48 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | Chutt: more or less works |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | more or less? |
| 22:53 | <mdz> | Chutt: managed to crash it by trying to set a bookmark |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 22:53 | <Chutt> | livetv works? |
| 22:54 | <Chutt> | with the osd and everything? |
| 22:54 | <mdz> | livetv works, I need to move the font to test osd |
| 22:54 | <mdz> | oh, I just need to change the name |
| 22:55 | <mdz> | hmm, no OSD |
| 22:55 | <mdz> | then segfault when I tried to change channels |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | great |
| 22:55 | <Chutt> | that's what just got reported to the list :( |
| 22:56 | <mdz> | building with debugging now...I thought I had the first time but built the wrong tree |
| 22:58 | <mdz> | hah |
| 22:59 | <mdz> | the debugging build isn't breaking |
| 22:59 | <mdz> | and the OSD shows up :-P |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | damnit |
| 22:59 | <Chutt> | work fine when you change channels, too? |
| 23:00 | <mdz> | ooh, the new "I want to record something and you are watching TV" dialog is nice looking |
| 23:00 | <mdz> | yep |
| 23:00 | <mdz> | literally the same tree; switched to debug, cleaned and rebuilt |
| 23:00 | <mdz> | the debug build runs like crap of course |
| 23:00 | <Chutt> | can you rebuild without debugging maybe? |
