| 00:30 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 00:31 | <Chutt> | can't decide if the dialog box that pops up when you're watching tv that asks if its ok to record something should fade away, or just disappear straight |
| 00:41 | <yebyen> | fading is nice |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | it doesn't feel right for that, though |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | takes a second for the box to go away once you've selected something |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | which feels weird |
| 00:53 | <Chutt> | ah well, no fading for it |
| 00:56 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 00:56 | <yebyen> | fair enough |
| 00:57 | <yebyen> | Chutt: what kind of OSD crap are you coding |
| 00:57 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 00:58 | <Chutt> | making it all flexible internally so i can do the editing stuff |
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| 00:59 | <yebyen> | oh :) |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | err |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | can you get to mythtv.org |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | ? |
| 00:59 | <yebyen> | looks like a dns issue |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | blah |
| 00:59 | <Chutt> | stupid snowman |
| 01:01 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | oh well, he's apparently moving today |
| 01:01 | <Chutt> | so, goes with the free hosting =) |
| 01:03 | <yebyen> | so should I think about trying mythmusic or any of those other fancy things? |
| 01:03 | <yebyen> | considering I have it all hooked up to my stereo |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | sure |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | i rather like the interface |
| 01:03 | <Chutt> | and having all my music on there is handy |
| 01:04 | <yebyen> | actually |
| 01:04 | <yebyen> | mythtv.org is working now, at least |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 01:04 | <Chutt> | came back for me, too |
| 01:05 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:11 | <yebyen> | Chutt: only problem is I haven't been away from the tv long enough for it to amass a library of stuff for me to watch |
| 01:11 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 01:11 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i think this belongs in a set top box |
| 01:11 | <yebyen> | would be fantastic |
| 01:11 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | well |
| 01:12 | <yebyen> | i read the FAQ and you mentioned contributing code |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | biggest issue is noise |
| 01:12 | <yebyen> | could build a mini-itx machine with quiet components |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | so a settop box would probably have to be a player-only |
| 01:12 | <Chutt> | and depend on a recording box elsewhere to record stuff |
| 01:12 | <yebyen> | player only as opposed to player/archiver? |
| 01:12 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 01:13 | <yebyen> | not necessarily |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | or player/archiver |
| 01:13 | <yebyen> | you could run such a machine on a <1ghz p3 |
| 01:13 | <yebyen> | just would be less than optimal |
| 01:13 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | well |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | a big beefy machine in the basement or whatnot could have plenty of cpu |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | a couple tuners in it |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 01:13 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 01:13 | <Chutt> | and you wouldn't have to worry about fan noise |
| 01:14 | <yebyen> | how much cpu does it take to do just playback |
| 01:14 | <Chutt> | it's pretty low |
| 01:15 | <yebyen> | btw turns out my hauppauge remote has exactly enough buttons to do mythtv and volume control |
| 01:15 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 01:15 | <yebyen> | i need to find another remote that will work though |
| 01:15 | <yebyen> | like, my cable remote doesn't create any dots in irrecord |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | using the hauppauge ir dongle thingie? |
| 01:16 | <Chutt> | it only listens to a specific remote format |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | which is apparently ancient and not used much anymore |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | there's only like 2 sets in my universal remote that support it |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | and neither has very many buttons |
| 01:17 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 01:17 | <yebyen> | any thoughts? should I pick up an irman? |
| 01:17 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:17 | <Chutt> | be cheaper to build your own |
| 01:18 | <yebyen> | is it difficult? |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | doesn't look to be |
| 01:18 | <yebyen> | is there a homebrew IR receiver howto? :) |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | it's a simple circuit on lirc.org |
| 01:18 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | i'm going to do it sometime |
| 01:18 | <Chutt> | when i have more time =) |
| 01:19 | <yebyen> | i'd definately like to have a more powerful remote |
| 01:19 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:19 | <yebyen> | and my cable box's remote has a config file already |
| 01:20 | <yebyen> | Chutt: the time conflict menu should remember your position like the delete dialog |
| 01:20 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 01:21 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i have to scroll all the way to the bottom again |
| 01:21 | <Chutt> | submit a patch :p |
| 01:21 | <yebyen> | lol |
| 01:26 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | ya know, i'm just going to remove the other archs from libavcodec in my cvs tree |
| 01:27 | <Chutt> | this crap's all i386 anyway |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | blah, naw |
| 01:28 | <Chutt> | i'll just remove it from distribution tarballs |
| 01:33 | <yebyen> | hmm? |
| 01:34 | <Chutt> | just trying to save some space |
| 01:34 | <Chutt> | the .tar.bz2's getting big |
| 01:34 | <yebyen> | ahh |
| 01:35 | <yebyen> | i should put my RFU on channel 4 |
| 01:36 | <yebyen> | so i have the option of watching normal tv without getting up |
| 01:37 | <yebyen> | hrm |
| 01:43 | <yebyen> | though i'm not entirely sure why i'd want to |
| 01:47 | <Chutt> | ooh |
| 01:48 | <Chutt> | it was displaying the wrong channel number in the actual dialog where it asks which one you choose? |
| 01:52 | <yebyen> | yes |
| 01:52 | <yebyen> | reporting them both as being on the same channel |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | yeah] |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | the guy that changed that just included a fix for that in a new patch |
| 01:53 | <yebyen> | ooh |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | simple little thing |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | i'll let you know when i'm done merging things in |
| 01:53 | <Chutt> | so you can update |
| 01:54 | <yebyen> | k |
| 01:54 | <Chutt> | since the fix for the not-playing things is going to be in as well |
| 01:54 | <yebyen> | which, btw, i haven't encountered yet |
| 01:55 | <Chutt> | it depends on the order in which frames got encoded in the file |
| 01:55 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 02:04 | <yebyen> | Chutt: you don't happen to know if it's possible to set xmltv up to get parts of two different tv listings and merge them into one, do you? |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | i have no idea |
| 02:04 | <Chutt> | what parts? |
| 02:04 | <yebyen> | Chutt: (the most accurate listing on zap2it.com is still wrong on about 20 channels) |
| 02:04 | <yebyen> | but there are other listings that have those 20 channels correct |
| 02:05 | <yebyen> | sort of a make-your-own-cable-provider |
| 02:05 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | write into the xmltv list and ask if they'd make that possible for you |
| 02:05 | <yebyen> | i noticed during setup that you have a thing to set up multiple video sources |
| 02:05 | <yebyen> | yeah i'll do that |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | yeah, but that won't work |
| 02:05 | <Chutt> | since you can only have one source of channels per input on the tuner card |
| 02:05 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 02:06 | <yebyen> | that's why i'm asking, heh |
| 02:06 | <yebyen> | couldn't get that to work |
| 02:07 | <yebyen> | tvguide.com actually has completely accurate listings, maybe i'll present that as "Or maybe if it were easier..." |
| 02:07 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | the main xmltv guy's fairly cool |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | but i've never emailed the guy that did the tv_grab_na stuff |
| 02:07 | <Chutt> | so, i dunno =) |
| 02:08 | <yebyen> | actually it looks like they have a tv_grab_uk_rt thing that is new, that just grabs from a different source than the other uk thing |
| 02:09 | <yebyen> | so it could be simple to add new sources |
| 02:09 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | well |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | look at tv_grab_na sometime |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | =) |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | it's a beast |
| 02:09 | <Chutt> | messy |
| 02:10 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 02:11 | <Chutt> | cvs is safe to update to now |
| 02:11 | <yebyen> | k |
| 02:12 | <yebyen> | cvs -dP -z3 update? |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | some warnings i'm going to fix in a checkin in a few minutes, but that's all harmless |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 02:12 | <yebyen> | or update -dP? |
| 02:12 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | PAd is what i usually use |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | but same stuff |
| 02:12 | <Chutt> | doesn't do anything differently that matters in this case |
| 02:12 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 02:13 | <yebyen> | well what are the options, for my own curiosity |
| 02:13 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:13 | <yebyen> | or should i rtfm |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | -P is prune empty dirs |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | -A tells it to go to the HEAD branch |
| 02:13 | <Chutt> | so you shouldn't use that if you're using a branch =) |
| 02:14 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:14 | <yebyen> | crap, do you have the CVSROOT listed anywhere on the site |
| 02:14 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:14 | <yebyen> | because i can't find it |
| 02:14 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 02:14 | <Chutt> | password: mythtv |
| 02:16 | <yebyen> | i can't cvs update a tarball, can I. |
| 02:16 | <yebyen> | hrm :) |
| 02:17 | <Chutt> | no, you can't |
| 02:17 | <yebyen> | even a cvs tarball |
| 02:17 | <yebyen> | *heh* |
| 02:18 | * yebyen | tries to get fancy with a cvs -z3 co -A |
| 02:18 | <yebyen> | nope |
| 02:18 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:24 | <yebyen> | ok, i give up |
| 02:24 | <yebyen> | is there a way to checkout the whole repository |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | cvs -z3 co MC |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | cvs -z3 co mythgame |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | cvs -z3 co mythmusic |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | etc :p |
| 02:24 | <yebyen> | bah :) |
| 02:24 | <Chutt> | module list is in viewcvs on the website |
| 02:24 | <yebyen> | anything I can do to make that whole thing a single unit, so in the future I can just "cvs update" from the root? |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | i don't believe so |
| 02:25 | <Chutt> | just make a little script |
| 02:25 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 02:25 | <yebyen> | hrm |
| 02:26 | <Chutt> | wow, a whole 151 hits from slashdot |
| 02:27 | <yebyen> | from a comment, spiffy |
| 02:27 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | from a couple |
| 02:27 | <yebyen> | ooh |
| 02:27 | <Chutt> | very crappy :p |
| 02:28 | * yebyen | ponders installing mythmusic |
| 02:28 | <yebyen> | would be nice to have music from something other than laptop speakers or headphones |
| 02:28 | <yebyen> | and nicer to have it controllable via remote, like entirely controllable, versus XMMS |
| 02:28 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:28 | <Chutt> | and it has a kickass selection interface |
| 02:29 | <yebyen> | can i have it access a directory of mp3s/ogg's? |
| 02:29 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:29 | <yebyen> | perhaps one nfs imported from my laptop |
| 02:29 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:29 | <yebyen> | ok, i'm doing it ;) |
| 02:29 | <Chutt> | it'll take awhile to read a full directory of mp3s, though |
| 02:29 | <Chutt> | since it calculates the length manually for em |
| 02:30 | <yebyen> | cool vis plugins? |
| 02:30 | <yebyen> | or cool vis plugin, the one |
| 02:30 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | singular |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | i don't feel like doing more |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | but its fairly simple to add em |
| 02:31 | <yebyen> | hm |
| 02:31 | <Chutt> | synaesthesia's good 'nuff for me =) |
| 02:31 | <yebyen> | i'd imagine it's cooler in motion |
| 02:31 | <yebyen> | versus a screenshot ^_~ |
| 02:31 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:31 | <yebyen> | how's it on cpu usage |
| 02:32 | <Chutt> | heavy, like most vis plugins |
| 02:32 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:32 | <yebyen> | crap |
| 02:32 | <yebyen> | like, I don't want it to interfere with recordings, if they come up |
| 02:33 | <yebyen> | read something in the manual about copying modified configs to ~/.mythtv... does that mean make install overwrites /usr/local/share/mythtv again? |
| 02:35 | <yebyen> | *installs dependencies for mythmusic* |
| 02:37 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 02:38 | <yebyen> | k |
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| 02:38 | <yebyen> | well that is done |
| 02:38 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:38 | <yebyen> | you don't run sawfish, do you? |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 02:38 | <Chutt> | kwin in kde3 |
| 02:38 | <yebyen> | ahh |
| 02:39 | <yebyen> | i need to find the setting for this crap that keeps windows from spawning right next to each other/the edge |
| 02:40 | <yebyen> | probably "window gravity" |
| 02:40 | <yebyen> | but when they uselessified sawfish, they seem to have removed that setting |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 02:40 | <Chutt> | sucks to be you :p |
| 02:41 | <yebyen> | well according to ogmo, all of the settings are still there in code |
| 02:41 | <yebyen> | just not there in the dialogs |
| 02:41 | <yebyen> | so if i can find out what they are, it's a matter of adding a line of lisp to my config |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | ah well |
| 02:41 | <Chutt> | i think i should be heading off to bed |
| 02:42 | <yebyen> | but in the mean time, it's hardcoded at like 3 or 4 pixels |
| 02:42 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 02:42 | <yebyen> | alright |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | i think i got all the code into cvs that i wanted to |
| 02:42 | <yebyen> | talk to you later |
| 02:42 | <yebyen> | thanks for the commit ;) |
| 02:42 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | hopefully snowman.net'll come back online fully sometime soon |
| 02:42 | <Chutt> | so i'll have a working mailing list again |
| 02:43 | <yebyen> | hehe |
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| 03:29 | <yebyen> | Chutt: encoding a cd while recording tv is probably a bad idea... |
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| 03:29 | <yebyen> | in fact recording tv should be given ultimate high priority |
| 03:29 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 03:36 | <yebyen> | or maybe i'm not giving that scheduler enough credit |
| 03:36 | <yebyen> | *notes how mythfrontend is hovering at the same 25% cpu usage it was before* |
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| 07:08 | <pyro-x> | Hi there |
| 07:09 | <pyro-x> | i have a problem with mythtv and audio |
| 07:10 | <pyro-x> | with OSS drivers i always get that echoing effect, and i can't mute the line-in channel for playback only, when i mute it i don't get any audio... :( |
| 07:11 | <pyro-x> | i tried the alsa drivers, and it seems they allow me to mute playback only, but when i switch channels my computer hangs up |
| 07:11 | <pyro-x> | any idea? |
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| 07:27 | <pyro-x_> | hello? |
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| 09:03 | <davehunn> | any one know howthe re encode stuff is going is there anything that needs testing yet? |
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| 12:29 | <mdz> | yebyen: you can checkout "." if you really want to |
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| 13:13 | <Chutt> | still no email, hmm |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | mdz, added the bookmarking stuff |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | hit space/enter during playback of a file with a seektable |
| 13:15 | <Chutt> | and next time you play it back, it'll start from that position |
| 13:16 | <Chutt> | well, nearest keyframe to that position |
| 13:20 | <yebyen> | Chutt: yo |
| 13:21 | <yebyen> | Chutt: when you said 'heavy on the cpu' i didn't think you meant it would take ALL of it and run like ass... |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | well, yeah |
| 13:21 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 13:21 | <Chutt> | it uses a good chunk o cpu on my 1800+ |
| 13:21 | <yebyen> | i wish stonerview was coded as a music vis |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | synaesthesia in mythmusic would be faster if i was using sdl for the output |
| 13:22 | <Chutt> | kinda didn't want to add another dependency, though |
| 13:22 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 13:22 | <yebyen> | i hear that |
| 13:23 | <yebyen> | well, how much faster |
| 13:23 | <yebyen> | ;) |
| 13:23 | <yebyen> | i've got a gf2gts in this machine, if it could be opengl'ified |
| 13:23 | <Chutt> | i dunno |
| 13:23 | <Chutt> | naw, it's all just ffts and blending |
| 13:24 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 13:24 | <yebyen> | Chutt: you don't have any experience with nfs, do you? :) |
| 13:24 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 13:25 | <yebyen> | Chutt: heh, once I got everything configured (i THOUGHT correctly), shit would just go defunct on the box that I was doing the mounting on |
| 13:25 | <yebyen> | it's unpleasent |
| 13:32 | <mdz> | Chutt: sounds great |
| 13:33 | <mdz> | yebyen: defunct how? |
| 13:35 | <yebyen> | mdz: like, not responding to kill -9, ps wuax|grep [pid] shows a big "D" |
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| 13:42 | <yebyen> | works now though |
| 13:42 | <yebyen> | was missing portmap on the client |
| 13:42 | <yebyen> | Chutt: it's only going to have to check all of these once, right? :) |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | something like that |
| 13:45 | <Chutt> | hasn't been used extensively with mp3s, though |
| 13:45 | <mdz> | yebyen: a process will be in that state any time that it is waiting for I/O to complete |
| 13:46 | <mdz> | yebyen: usually, that should be a very short time; if a process is in that state for a long time and no I/O is completing, then something is wrong |
| 13:46 | <yebyen> | mdz: i see |
| 13:48 | <yebyen> | well, I knew *something* was wrong |
| 13:48 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 14:04 | <Chutt> | well, that was easier than i thought |
| 14:04 | <Chutt> | ff/rew while pause work now =) |
| 14:11 | <Universe> | hey Chutt... have you thought about a prompt to delete after watching a recording to the end? |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | i'll probably do that eventually |
| 14:12 | <Chutt> | but, other stuff first |
| 14:12 | <Universe> | aye.. |
| 14:12 | <Universe> | just wondering. |
| 14:17 | <Antw73> | Hey all |
| 14:18 | <Antw73> | Ok, been thinking about export functions and here is what I am thinking about doing |
| 14:18 | <Antw73> | Firstly, changing the delete recordings option to a manage recordings |
| 14:19 | <Antw73> | within that menu, delete, export, and burn VCD options |
| 14:19 | <Antw73> | The export would remove the file from the database and give an option to set a filename for the .nuv file thats a little more human readable |
| 14:20 | <Antw73> | The burn VCD would do just that, with the option to leave the bin and cue images in the tmp directory |
| 14:20 | <Antw73> | Delete would of course function as before |
| 14:21 | <Antw73> | Secondly, an external program to convert .nuv MythTV files to .avi files in mpeg4 format with mp3 sound. ready for conversion with other programs such as transcode |
| 14:21 | <Chutt> | i'd really rather 'export' not be in the UI, 're-encode' for higher compression, etc, sure |
| 14:21 | <Antw73> | Anyone have comments before I get started? |
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| 14:22 | <Chutt> | but nothing that takes it out of the internal format in the UI |
| 14:22 | <Antw73> | export was more to leave in the right format, but change the name to a human readable one Chutt |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | eh |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | it's not self-contained anymore that way, though |
| 14:23 | <Antw73> | hence, its an export, deleting it from the mythtv database |
| 14:23 | <Chutt> | right |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | but someone can do the same thing with an external tool and the 'delete' function |
| 14:24 | <Chutt> | which would leave the UI self-contained |
| 14:24 | <Antw73> | true, however I was trying to make finding the file simpler with the export option, whichever is fine by me |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | i'd just rather not have the UI have anything that takes data out of the DB, but still leaves it on the system |
| 14:25 | <Chutt> | if that's ok with you =) |
| 14:25 | <Antw73> | ahhh, I see what you are getting at now |
| 14:26 | <Antw73> | well, another way round that is to get the users to name recordings as a matter of course |
| 14:26 | <Chutt> | well |
| 14:27 | <Chutt> | there could be a simple command line tool to rename something |
| 14:27 | <Chutt> | have it print out a list of recordings in the database, have them select one, type in the new name |
| 14:27 | <Chutt> | etc |
| 14:27 | <Antw73> | yup, thats another way to go =) |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | yeah, and i'd even distribute something like that along with the UI |
| 14:28 | <Chutt> | just not _in_ the UI =) |
| 14:29 | <Antw73> | ok, I think I have a better idea of what you want the Myth stuff to be now =) |
| 14:32 | <Antw73> | Sooo, scratch the export button and move it into the external tool, otherwise the VCD burning option is ok, but without leaving and bin/cue files lying about |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | right |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | and like, the VCD tool can probably even a separate command line tool |
| 14:33 | <Chutt> | that the UI just calls and stuff |
| 14:34 | <Antw73> | ok, If you prefer it that way, thats fine |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | so, if the user wanted to do it manually, they could have the option to leave the bin/cue files |
| 14:34 | <Chutt> | but if they didn't, the UI would just take care of everything and make it all transparent to the user |
| 14:34 | <Antw73> | I'll see if I can have something for you to bang on by the end of the week, at least a rough draft code anyways |
| 14:35 | <Chutt> | cool |
| 14:35 | <Antw73> | I'll start with the external stuff, I'm sure you'd rather we walked through the menu integration together |
| 14:35 | <Chutt> | however you want to do it |
| 14:36 | <Antw73> | well, the meat will take the time, adding another button should be trivial |
| 14:36 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 14:36 | <Chutt> | well, i'm thinking probably a radio button group along the top of the dialog like the ripper in mythmusic |
| 14:37 | <Chutt> | to select the different modes of operation in the manage recordings box |
| 14:37 | <Antw73> | sounds nice and consistant |
| 14:38 | <Antw73> | oh, about the ripper, am I missing something there or is it not possible to skip tracks from an import? |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | that's right |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | thought about that |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | like, make the left-most column be a checkbox |
| 14:38 | <Antw73> | well, mythmusic hangs on tracks that are not cdda =) |
| 14:38 | <Chutt> | aah |
| 14:39 | <Antw73> | data tracks, video tracks and the like |
| 14:39 | <Chutt> | wonder if there's an easy way to check that with how things are setup right now |
| 14:39 | <Antw73> | just thought you might like to know =) |
| 14:39 | <Chutt> | yeah, thanks |
| 14:40 | <Antw73> | not sure, some of the stupid disks actually have those tracks listed as audio in the TOC |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 14:40 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:40 | <Antw73> | bumped into several while I was importing a bunch |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | it hangs while doing the actual ripping? |
| 14:41 | <Antw73> | oh, another annoying hate I have right now, stupid tracks with long space and a bonus track at the end...28 minutes of silence grrrr =) |
| 14:41 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 14:41 | <Antw73> | yup, while ripping |
| 14:41 | <Antw73> | I let it run once to see if it would timeout, no such |
| 14:43 | <Chutt> | ok, i'll bbl |
| 14:43 | <Chutt> | need food and stuff |
| 14:43 | <Antw73> | Oh, and I have a problem with Mythgame too =) but I am still debugging that, enjoy your meal =) |
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| 16:14 | <Chutt> | vektor, nice announcement :p |
| 16:18 | <vektor> | You think? |
| 16:18 | <vektor> | Thanks. I hope people actually give it a try. |
| 16:19 | <Chutt> | well, check your sf stats page in a few days =) |
| 16:20 | <vektor> | Yeah, I will. :) |
| 16:20 | <vektor> | It's alot of fun to watch, actually. |
| 16:20 | <vektor> | Makes you want to just edit random comments in source files and check in so your stats go up. |
| 16:21 | <vektor> | Do you announce your app on freshmeat? |
| 16:21 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 16:21 | <vektor> | I'm about to do that for tvtime but it's such a pain. |
| 16:21 | <vektor> | Too much info to put in. |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | that's the only place where i announce things, actually |
| 16:22 | <Chutt> | i probably should in a few more places, though |
| 16:22 | <vektor> | Well it took me a long time to hear of it. |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | of mythtv? |
| 16:23 | <vektor> | Yeah. |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 16:23 | <Chutt> | my userbase is growing slowly |
| 16:24 | <vektor> | I need to try again to set i tup. |
| 16:24 | <Chutt> | going to work on some in-place editing features tonight |
| 16:27 | <vektor> | Wow, dude... :) |
| 16:27 | <vektor> | man that will kick. |
| 16:28 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hmm |
| 16:29 | <yebyen> | Chutt: mythmusic would be a lot cooler if I cdould listen to music while ripping a cd |
| 16:30 | <Chutt> | so fix it to |
| 16:30 | <Chutt> | :p |
| 16:30 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 16:30 | <yebyen> | i'm incompetent as a coder |
| 16:31 | <yebyen> | i'm not sure i'ts picking up on music in its path either, it seems to be looking at only the cd that is in the drive |
| 16:32 | <yebyen> | is the cvs version supposed to be stable? :) |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | if stuff's missing tags, i'm not sure what it'll do |
| 16:32 | <Chutt> | yeah, i'm using it right now |
| 16:33 | <yebyen> | Chutt: hmm |
| 16:33 | <Chutt> | haven't had any problems with it a'toll |
| 16:33 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i removed the link to my mp3 collection, i'm saying i don't think it sees the cd it ripped last night :) |
| 16:33 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i'll let you know for sure once this cd is done ripping |
| 16:33 | <yebyen> | then i'll have two |
| 16:34 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 16:34 | <yebyen> | and, uhh, selecting "Play all music" seems to crash mythmusic, but that could have something to do with it not finding anything on the drive |
| 16:34 | <Chutt> | well, works for me |
| 16:35 | <Chutt> | if you want bugs fixed, i need backtraces, etc |
| 16:35 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 16:35 | <yebyen> | k |
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| 16:36 | <Antw73> | Chutt: you have a patch in your inbox when you get a chance, for mythgame. |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | you know the drill |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | thanks |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | just got it =) |
| 16:36 | <Antw73> | good good, nothing serious for most people, just annoying =) |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | ah, could you regenerate it with diff -u? |
| 16:36 | <Chutt> | so it's a little more readable |
| 16:36 | <Antw73> | sure, one sec |
| 16:38 | <Antw73> | ok, sent, good night all |
| 16:39 | <Chutt> | thanks |
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| 16:39 | <Chutt> | i'll get that applied shortly |
| 16:43 | * yebyen | ponders just using xmms done over network X |
| 16:56 | <yebyen> | yeah |
| 16:56 | <yebyen> | heh oddly enough that is the sanest thing |
| 16:57 | <Chutt> | yeah, whatever |
| 17:08 | <mdz> | Chutt: so I got things working so that I can record from the digital tuner on the s-video input on my card. what's the best way to set up myth to make use of the new input? will setup still blow away the database? |
| 17:08 | <Chutt> | yeah, it will |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | but, that's probably the best way to deal with it |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | also |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | i'm not sure how well it'll handle having 2 sets of overlapping channels like tha |
| 17:09 | <Chutt> | that |
| 17:10 | <mdz> | hmm |
| 17:10 | <mdz> | why would they have to be overlapping? |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | well |
| 17:10 | <mdz> | I was figuring I would treat them as separate |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | you're going to have some of the exact same channels available on both inputs, no? |
| 17:10 | <mdz> | there are even separate xmltv sources for the two sets of channels |
| 17:10 | <mdz> | I am, but mythtv doesn't need to know that yet |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 17:10 | <Chutt> | ok |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | well, it won't =) |
| 17:11 | <mdz> | if there are conflicts between two inputs on the same card, they are resolved in the normal way? |
| 17:11 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:11 | <mdz> | currently I'm just doing audio through the sound card for everything, so I guess that shouldn't be a problem |
| 17:12 | <mdz> | I should try btaudio one of these days, assuming my card works with it |
| 17:12 | <Chutt> | the multi-card conflict resolution stuff is fairly simplistic, but it seems to work ok |
| 17:12 | <mdz> | I'll have to if I want to make the all-in-wonder work |
| 17:12 | <yebyen> | mdz: i didn't know that was possible :) |
| 17:12 | <mdz> | hmm...now that I think about it, this is going to suck |
| 17:12 | <yebyen> | mdz: i have a tremendous mess of cables in the back |
| 17:13 | <mdz> | I'm going to have a conflict for every single recording |
| 17:13 | <yebyen> | mdz: btaudio sounds like it would make my life better :) |
| 17:13 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 17:13 | <mdz> | unless it knows that they are the same program |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | mdz, every single one? |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | for the multiple record stuff |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | you could make them channel-based |
| 17:13 | <mdz> | yeah |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | but |
| 17:13 | <Chutt> | if you just let it auto-resolve them, it should be fine |
| 17:13 | <mdz> | but there is already some smarts about duplicates, right? assuming the xmltv stuff is all in line, will it know they are the same show? |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | 'slong as there are subtitles and descriptions |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | it should auto-prune em out, too |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | and the auto-resolution stuff will just pick the lower channel # |
| 17:14 | <Chutt> | which kicks in if you don't manually resolve a conflict |
| 17:15 | <mdz> | ok, lower channel # is perfect for me |
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| 17:19 | * rcaskey | wanted to stop by and let everybody know that he has Myth more or less working with the exception of his possessed modelines :) |
| 17:25 | <yebyen> | possessed modelines, eek! :) |
| 17:26 | <rcaskey> | yup. 640x480p always works but 54p only works like 1/7 times or so |
| 17:27 | <rcaskey> | its apparently random |
| 17:31 | <mdz> | now I have to wait for 500 channels of xmltv to finish :-( |
| 17:31 | <rcaskey> | hehe |
| 17:32 | <mdz> | argh, it's not getting all of the channels for some reason |
| 17:32 | <mdz> | noticed station unavailable (9 WGNSAT), re-run --configure |
| 17:32 | <rcaskey> | I need a remote receiver, any advice? |
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| 17:34 | <mdz> | odd, some channels were missing from the .xmltv channel list which were there when I fetched them last time |
| 17:34 | <mdz> | I'll just edit them in... |
| 17:34 | <rcaskey> | I still dont know why im only getting sync occasionally. X always starts but its only ocassionably readable |
| 17:36 | <mdz> | I need to configure squid to force caching of xmltv requests |
| 17:37 | <rcaskey> | will mythtv automagically update listings |
| 17:38 | <yebyen> | nope, not unless something's changed without me knowing... you need to cron mythfilldatabase |
| 17:40 | <yebyen> | Chutt: how could you possibly consider 224kbps variable ogg "medium" quality |
| 17:40 | <yebyen> | i doubt i could tell the difference between this and flac, no matter what volume I tried it at |
| 17:41 | <rcaskey> | is there a script to force myth to rebuild its music database |
| 17:41 | <yebyen> | i think it does it every time you open mythmusic |
| 17:42 | <rcaskey> | yebyen: hmm, odd, because I changed my music path and nothing seemed to change |
| 17:42 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 17:42 | <rcaskey> | I moved in like 20 gigs too :) |
| 17:42 | <yebyen> | that may have something to do with why none of my music is showing up |
| 17:43 | <mdz> | it scans the directory every time mythmusic starts, as far as I know |
| 17:43 | <mdz> | and will add/remove new/deleted files |
| 17:45 | <rcaskey> | im not so sure it does, but I dont wanna go hook up my keyboard downstairs to find out |
| 17:45 | <rcaskey> | I really need to get a remote, do you have any advice? |
| 17:47 | <yebyen> | i'm still stuck with my hauppauge remote |
| 17:47 | <yebyen> | i need to build/buy a better receiver than the one that came with the crap |
| 17:47 | <rcaskey> | yebyen: is it usb |
| 17:48 | <rcaskey> | I really dont want serial stuff |
| 17:48 | <yebyen> | the one that came with mine is no plug i recognize |
| 17:48 | <yebyen> | it goes into the tv card |
| 17:48 | <yebyen> | i'm pretty sure most IR receivers are serial though |
| 17:49 | <rcaskey> | ahh |
| 17:49 | <rcaskey> | thats no so swell since im looking to upgrade to an HD card eventually |
| 17:49 | <yebyen> | hd card? |
| 17:49 | <yebyen> | as in hdtv? |
| 17:49 | <rcaskey> | yeah |
| 17:49 | <yebyen> | didn't know they made those |
| 17:49 | <rcaskey> | yeah they are expensive |
| 17:49 | <yebyen> | shy does that have anything to do with serial though |
| 17:49 | <rcaskey> | no hd signals to speak of here though, moving in a year or so though and will get dish then |
| 17:50 | <rcaskey> | yebyen: afraid one day I might have a MB without serial |
| 17:50 | <yebyen> | HEH |
| 17:50 | <yebyen> | i suppose it's possible |
| 17:50 | <yebyen> | but |
| 17:50 | <yebyen> | the IR receivers are apparently extremely cheap to make/build |
| 17:51 | <yebyen> | /buy |
| 17:51 | <rcaskey> | hmm |
| 17:52 | <rcaskey> | your right |
| 17:52 | <yebyen> | you find any? |
| 17:52 | <yebyen> | i'd prefer not to build one |
| 17:52 | <rcaskey> | yeah |
| 17:52 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 17:52 | <rcaskey> | I think radio shack closes in like 8 minutes though |
| 17:52 | <rcaskey> | maby ill get the stuff tommorow |
| 17:53 | <yebyen> | oh |
| 17:53 | <yebyen> | to build one? or buy |
| 17:53 | <rcaskey> | build |
| 17:53 | <yebyen> | heh |
| 17:53 | <yebyen> | crap |
| 17:53 | <rcaskey> | ? |
| 17:54 | <yebyen> | see, the thing is... i'm a lazy bastard |
| 17:54 | <yebyen> | and I don't really want to build anything |
| 17:56 | <rcaskey> | I might could even just find something cheap and ir and break it :) |
| 17:57 | <rcaskey> | and If I build one of these gadgets I suppose I can use it to blast at cable boxes to change chanels and the like? |
| 17:58 | <yebyen> | if you manage to do something to send and receive |
| 17:58 | <yebyen> | i'm not sure how it works |
| 17:59 | <rcaskey> | oh good grief |
| 17:59 | <rcaskey> | some people are selling these things for like $300 bucks |
| 18:02 | <yebyen> | eek |
| 18:02 | <yebyen> | what's a model that is cheap and good :) |
| 18:02 | <yebyen> | hehe |
| 18:04 | <rcaskey> | actually...there is a $20 wireless keyboard at a store down the street, I suppose if I got that it would be not that hard to make it work with a remote |
| 18:04 | <rcaskey> | might have to use a learning remote but still |
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| 18:06 | <rcaskey> | so what do you think is a good price for that sort of thing? |
| 18:06 | <nyquiljer> | hola |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | nyquiljer, hey there |
| 18:06 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: major revisions to osd code? |
| 18:06 | <Chutt> | internally |
| 18:07 | <mdz> | Chutt: are those epg improvements you were talking about in CVS? |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | mdz, what epg improvements? |
| 18:07 | <mdz> | Chutt: someone posted to the list about having it use fewer queries, etc., and you said you had already done most of it |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | oh, yeah |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | what i did's already in CVS |
| 18:07 | <mdz> | ok, thanks |
| 18:07 | <Chutt> | he hasn't sent a patch, that i know of |
| 18:08 | <mdz> | so if I wanted to add, say, page up/down type functionality, it would be safe to tread there? |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | i could've missed it, though, what with email being down |
| 18:08 | <mdz> | or did you already do that too? |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | it'd be extremely safe |
| 18:08 | <Chutt> | and if you wanted to add jumping directly to a channel with the number keys, that'd be safe too =) |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | nyquiljer, well, basically, now the OSD displays 'sets' of osd stuff |
| 18:09 | <Chutt> | like, an image with arbitrary text on top of it |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | Chutt: i was just thinking about that |
| 18:09 | <yebyen> | Chutt: the jumpinng to a channel |
| 18:10 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: so rather than specific text locations, the locations are within the image, and then you place the image? |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | not _quite_ yet |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | but that's what it's moving too |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | well, actually |
| 18:10 | <rcaskey> | hey Chutt: does myth check for music removed from the file system? |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | aren't the text locations already based off of the origin of the image? |
| 18:10 | <Chutt> | rcaskey, nope |
| 18:10 | <rcaskey> | thats what I thought |
| 18:11 | <rcaskey> | I also thought it wannt importing my music but it turns out its just doing it in the background and taking forever |
| 18:11 | <rcaskey> | oh well :) |
| 18:11 | <Chutt> | mostly since there isn't a way to delete things from the db yet, either |
| 18:12 | <rcaskey> | sure there is...DELETE FROM musicmetadata WHERE filename LIKE '/mnt/%' |
| 18:12 | <rcaskey> | ;P |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | from the UI. |
| 18:12 | <rcaskey> | I know what you mean |
| 18:13 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: yeh, I suppose they are relative to the image, but what I pictured when you said 'sets of information' that you were thinking having multiple parts that get displayed, seperate images. like one 'set' would include channel number and program name, then tehred be another set for those plus description, etc? |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | well, ok |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | currently, it setups up a 'program information' set |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | with fields for the title/subtitle/description/callsign/time/etc |
| 18:14 | <nyquiljer> | ok |
| 18:14 | <Chutt> | then when i want to display it, i just tell it to display the 'program information' set |
| 18:14 | <Chutt> | same with the channel # and pause status sets |
| 18:14 | <Chutt> | after updating the text strings, etc |
| 18:14 | * rcaskey | needs to figure out a good way to do progress indicator stuff so he can hack together a script for cd burning |
| 18:14 | <nyquiljer> | thats cool |
| 18:15 | <Chutt> | basically, it's just a lot nicer internally, but not much has changed externally |
| 18:16 | <nyquiljer> | Chutt: ok, that makes sense |
| 18:16 | <Chutt> | before i had variables for each of the different images/text positions/etc |
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