| 00:50 | -!- | Echo465 [~Echo465@12-222-117-17.client.insightBB.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 00:50 | <Echo465> | good %greetingtime%, all. |
| 00:53 | <Echo465> | so, anyone want to give their opinion on the best distro to run mythtv from? |
| 01:15 | <Soopaman> | debian |
| 01:15 | <Soopaman> | what the author wrote it on |
| 01:26 | <Echo465> | i thought that might be a good idea, but debian is not very noob friendly. |
| 01:28 | <Echo465> | not compared to say, mandrake. |
| 01:31 | <Soopaman> | debian is ass easy |
| 01:31 | <Soopaman> | if you have an internet connection |
| 01:33 | <Echo465> | i do, but i also have a complete set of CD's. (downloaded and burnt the ISO's. |
| 01:33 | <Echo465> | and I agree, that installing a complete system with a couple of floppies and a cable modem is muy cool, but... |
| 01:34 | <Echo465> | the install prog isn't very friendly, and once it is installed, you get dumped at a login prompt. |
| 01:35 | <Soopaman> | if you chose not to install x |
| 01:36 | <Soopaman> | then you are dumped to root |
| 01:36 | <Soopaman> | if you go debian, i will walk you throughit |
| 01:36 | <Echo465> | well, perhaps I did something wrong then. |
| 01:36 | <Echo465> | I honestly don't care what distro, as long as it works. |
| 01:37 | <Echo465> | If you're willing to walk me through it, i am your eager student. |
| 01:37 | <Soopaman> | sure |
| 01:37 | <Echo465> | k, shall we start by booting the install CD? |
| 01:37 | <Soopaman> | sure |
| 01:38 | <Echo465> | ok, rebooting. I am using the NON-US cd, btw. |
| 01:38 | <Echo465> | ok, we're at the welcome screen, F1 for help, enter to boot. |
| 01:39 | <Soopaman> | enter |
| 01:39 | <Soopaman> | most of the stuff should be self explanatory |
| 01:39 | <Echo465> | ok, .. english.. blah... |
| 01:39 | <Echo465> | keyboard config... |
| 01:40 | <Echo465> | ok, now it's asking me about the disk config. it says that i have a swap partition already, and it needs initialized. |
| 01:40 | <Soopaman> | init it then |
| 01:41 | <Echo465> | ok.. skipping bad block scans... |
| 01:41 | <Echo465> | initializing a linux partition... |
| 01:41 | <Echo465> | ok, mounting /dev/hda1... |
| 01:42 | <Echo465> | ok, now install kernel and driver modules.... |
| 01:42 | <Echo465> | it's asking me if I want to use the CD as the primary install medium. That is correct, correct? |
| 01:42 | <Soopaman> | yeah, or use internet |
| 01:43 | <Soopaman> | if you have cable/high speed |
| 01:44 | <Echo465> | ok, do i need to configure any modules? |
| 01:44 | <Echo465> | block, net, fs, cdrom, or misc? |
| 01:45 | <Soopaman> | i duno, do you? |
| 01:45 | <Echo465> | <-- noob to this. haven't used debian. |
| 01:46 | <Soopaman> | oh sorry |
| 01:46 | <Echo465> | no prob |
| 01:46 | <Soopaman> | do you have a network card? |
| 01:46 | <Echo465> | yeah, onboard. |
| 01:47 | <Soopaman> | ok, go into net |
| 01:47 | <Soopaman> | amd see if anything is seleted? |
| 01:48 | <Echo465> | no, nothing is selected |
| 01:48 | <Soopaman> | ok |
| 01:49 | <Soopaman> | skip it rite now |
| 01:49 | <Soopaman> | just go to exit |
| 01:49 | <Echo465> | ok |
| 01:49 | <Echo465> | back at the modules menu |
| 01:50 | <Soopaman> | exit out of that also |
| 01:51 | <Echo465> | ok, back to the main menu.. configure host name... |
| 01:51 | <Echo465> | ok, install the base system is next |
| 01:52 | <Echo465> | ok, it's installing the base system... |
| 01:53 | <Soopaman> | k |
| 01:53 | <Echo465> | dum de dum... please wait.. la la la.... |
| 01:53 | <Soopaman> | heh |
| 01:54 | <Echo465> | ok, make system bootable would be good... |
| 01:54 | <Echo465> | .. and then eject the cd and reboot. |
| 01:54 | <Soopaman> | yep |
| 01:56 | <Echo465> | ok, setting time.... |
| 01:56 | <Echo465> | setting up passwords... md5 or not? |
| 01:57 | <Soopaman> | your call |
| 01:57 | <Soopaman> | real explanation |
| 01:57 | <Soopaman> | err read the explanation |
| 01:58 | <Echo465> | ok.. i'll keep the default, which is 'no'... |
| 01:58 | <Echo465> | shadow passwords, default is 'yes', which i'll keep.. |
| 01:58 | <Echo465> | root pw... |
| 01:58 | <Echo465> | create a normal user account? or should i run myth from root? |
| 02:00 | <Soopaman> | create a user just in case |
| 02:00 | <Echo465> | ok... |
| 02:01 | <Echo465> | got a user. |
| 02:01 | <Echo465> | any need for the PCMCIA packages? No PCMCIA on here.. |
| 02:01 | <Soopaman> | then no |
| 02:01 | <Soopaman> | heheh |
| 02:01 | <Soopaman> | you should use some common sense with some of these questions |
| 02:01 | <Echo465> | ok, figured, but just checking. |
| 02:02 | <Echo465> | do I need to set up PPP? or will that not work because of the network card thing earlier? |
| 02:02 | <Soopaman> | read explanation |
| 02:03 | <Echo465> | ok. Well.. I guess I should configure it then, since the PC is on a LAN.. |
| 02:04 | <Echo465> | hmm. maybe not, it sounds like this is for dialup. |
| 02:05 | <Echo465> | ok, now we're into 'apt' configuration, telling it to use the cd... |
| 02:05 | <Echo465> | ok, now it's having me feed in all the cd's one at a time. just a min.. |
| 02:14 | <Echo465> | ok, it now knows about all the cd's. do i want the security updates from security.debian.org, or do i need to skip that for now because of the lan thing? |
| 02:15 | <Soopaman> | jeeze |
| 02:15 | <Soopaman> | read and answer |
| 02:16 | <Soopaman> | decide foryourself |
| 02:16 | <Soopaman> | then choose |
| 02:16 | <Echo465> | look, it's a fairly simple question: knowing that the LAN probably doesn't work right now, should I configure it to try to get network updates, or will that screw something up later? |
| 02:17 | <Soopaman> | if the network isn't uip |
| 02:17 | <Soopaman> | then it won't get the packages |
| 02:19 | <Echo465> | do i want to run tasksel to choose software? |
| 02:19 | <Soopaman> | yes |
| 02:19 | <Echo465> | ok. what all do I need. Dedicated box just for MythTV. |
| 02:20 | <Soopaman> | x |
| 02:20 | <Soopaman> | then read the requirements on the website |
| 02:22 | <Echo465> | none of the other requirements on the website are on this list, but I assume that we'll need a compiler, right? |
| 02:26 | <Soopaman> | i don't think so |
| 02:26 | <Soopaman> | you will need to apt-get install make later |
| 02:26 | <Echo465> | ok, so the only thing we need from this menu is X? |
| 02:26 | <Soopaman> | but if you have the hd space, then install the app dev suite |
| 02:26 | <Soopaman> | pretty much |
| 02:27 | <Echo465> | well, space shouldn't be a problem for now, so I'll go ahead adn grab C/C++. |
| 02:28 | <Echo465> | ok, now it says that I can run dselect to select individual packages. Do i need to do that, or just continue on? |
| 02:29 | <Soopaman> | continue |
| 02:29 | <Soopaman> | dslect is confusing |
| 02:29 | <Echo465> | heh.. |
| 02:29 | <Echo465> | ok,. . .continuing... |
| 02:31 | <Echo465> | ok.. under 'Configuring Binutils', it says Kernel link failure info... |
| 02:32 | <Echo465> | You may experience problems linking older (and some newer) kernels with this version of binutils. |
| 02:32 | <Echo465> | ... |
| 02:32 | <Soopaman> | unless it errors, don't worry about it |
| 02:32 | <Echo465> | ok.. onward.. |
| 02:32 | <Echo465> | configuring less... |
| 02:33 | <Echo465> | configuring locales... |
| 02:34 | <Echo465> | ssh.... |
| 02:34 | <Echo465> | cvs... |
| 02:35 | <Echo465> | do i want to manage x server wrapper configuration with debconf, or do it manually? |
| 02:37 | <Echo465> | let's use debconf for now... |
| 02:37 | <Echo465> | same with xfree86... |
| 02:38 | <Echo465> | ok, here's one. video card driver for the X server. ATI rage 128 chipset video card uses an the 'ati' driver I assume... |
| 02:39 | <Echo465> | using kernel framebuffer device interface, .. sure, why not.. |
| 02:40 | <Echo465> | keyboard stuff... |
| 02:41 | <Echo465> | ok, question.. using a usb mouse, the menu mentions the possibility, but doesn't say what to select. there's not an obvious choice such as /dev/usb or anything. any idea? |
| 02:41 | <Echo465> | /dev/input/mice maybe? |
| 02:44 | <Echo465> | well, we'll try it and see... |
| 02:45 | <Echo465> | monitor configuration.... |
| 02:47 | <Echo465> | ok.. it's installing stuff now.... |
| 02:49 | <Echo465> | ok.. mail system set for local delivery only... |
| 02:50 | <Echo465> | ok, now i'm at the login prompt. |
| 02:50 | <Echo465> | logged in as root. |
| 02:51 | <Echo465> | now what? |
| 02:52 | <Echo465> | (in text mode, not in X) |
| 02:56 | <Echo465> | still there? |
| 02:57 | <Echo465> | afk a min, eating. |
| 02:57 | <Soopaman> | yo |
| 02:57 | <Soopaman> | sorry, trying to fix my damn laptop |
| 02:59 | <Echo465> | heya |
| 03:00 | <Echo465> | what's wrong w/ your laptop? |
| 03:01 | <Echo465> | how do i get into X? |
| 03:01 | <Soopaman> | try startx |
| 03:02 | <Echo465> | ok, it tried, but came back... |
| 03:02 | <Echo465> | Screens found, but none have a usable configuration |
| 03:03 | <Soopaman> | so it crapped out/ |
| 03:03 | <Echo465> | yeah |
| 03:04 | <Soopaman> | try xfconfig |
| 03:04 | <Soopaman> | err x86config |
| 03:05 | <Echo465> | command not found, for both of em. |
| 03:05 | <Soopaman> | shit can't remember the command |
| 03:05 | <Soopaman> | heheh |
| 03:05 | <Echo465> | :) |
| 03:05 | <Soopaman> | xf86config |
| 03:06 | <Echo465> | got it. |
| 03:12 | <Echo465> | ok, i reconfigured it, and it still crapped out.. looking through the log.. |
| 03:14 | <Echo465> | well.. nothing that means anything to me. |
| 03:15 | <Soopaman> | you pretty much keep reconfiguring until you find something that works |
| 03:15 | <Soopaman> | that's what i did at times |
| 03:16 | <Echo465> | heh |
| 03:17 | <Echo465> | well crap. same error, configured the card with 1 meg, in 256 color mode, vga monitor. |
| 03:19 | <Soopaman> | what does the line say, where it errors? |
| 03:19 | <Echo465> | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 03:19 | <Echo465> | Fatal Server error: no screens found |
| 03:30 | <Echo465> | argh. need sleep. |
| 03:30 | <Echo465> | i'll go ask google some more tomorrow. I'm heading to bed. |
| 03:31 | <Echo465> | thanks for your assistance. |
| 03:31 | <Soopaman> | sorry |
| 03:32 | <Soopaman> | catch me tommorow |
| 03:32 | <Soopaman> | i need sleep too |
| 03:41 | * Echo465 | is away: I'm busy |
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| 03:46 | <orangey> | hey guys! |
| 03:46 | <orangey> | anyone up? |
| 03:46 | <orangey> | just wondering about where the "channel limit" is hard coded in myth! |
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| 08:19 | <blinx> | hello |
| 08:38 | -!- | Universe [~uni@6532175hfc29.tampabay.rr.com] has joined #mythtv |
| 08:40 | <blinx> | hey universe |
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| 09:00 | <Universe> | hey. |
| 09:11 | <Universe> | anyone alive in here? |
| 12:11 | -!- | OrangeSun [~orangey@London-HSE-ppp3539424.sympatico.ca] has joined #mythtv |
| 12:11 | <OrangeSun> | hey guys! |
| 12:11 | <OrangeSun> | how's we all doing? |
| 12:11 | <OrangeSun> | <otherSun> Oh, I'm great Orangey.. How are you? |
| 12:12 | <OrangeSun> | Oh, I'm good other.. How's the wife and kids? |
| 12:12 | <OrangeSun> | <otherSun> Oh, good.. They send their best regards.. |
| 12:12 | <OrangeSun> | yeah? Tell them I said hi.. |
| 12:13 | <OrangeSun> | <otherSun> I will.. You really must come join us for supper sometime.. Dorris makes absolutely the best rhubarb pie. It's *to DIE for* |
| 12:13 | <OrangeSun> | oh, I'm there! |
| 12:13 | * OrangeSun | is so lonely. |
| 12:17 | <Universe> | lol |
| 12:17 | <Universe> | well... time to head to work... I will be back when I get there. |
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| 13:03 | <OrangeSun> | uni! |
| 13:03 | <OrangeSun> | do you follow the mailing list? |
| 13:03 | <OrangeSun> | I'm wondering about that "128 channel" problem.. |
| 13:03 | <OrangeSun> | what is that command that has to go into the settings.txt to tell it that I have a satellite receiver? |
| 13:06 | <Universe> | I dont know... |
| 13:06 | <Universe> | I just starting following the project about a week or 2 ago |
| 13:06 | <vektor> | Universe: Interested in beta testing an app I'm working on? |
| 13:06 | <Universe> | and the system I got working was on my computer |
| 13:07 | <Universe> | using a cable connection with only basic cable. |
| 13:07 | <Universe> | vektor: I am at work now but sure... |
| 13:07 | <Universe> | vektor: What is it? |
| 13:08 | <vektor> | Universe: I'm working on a V4L-based TV app for high-quality TV watching on progressive output. |
| 13:08 | <vektor> | Universe: It's basically a DScaler port to Linux |
| 13:09 | <Universe> | vektor: sure.. |
| 13:10 | <vektor> | Universe: http://www.sf.net/projects/tvtime/ |
| 13:11 | <vektor> | Universe: You can grab it from CVS. I'm sort of working on the documentation a bit better now, but the README isn't so bad. |
| 13:11 | <vektor> | Universe: I'd appreciate any bugs you can put into the sourceforge bug tracker, regardless of how trivial they might be. |
| 13:11 | <vektor> | I really want to get this usable quickly so I can post about it to relevant mailing lists. |
| 13:11 | <vektor> | I think it's fair to say that we already blow every linux TV viewing app out of the water. |
| 13:14 | <Universe> | olk |
| 13:14 | <Universe> | will do |
| 13:15 | <vektor> | Awesome! |
| 13:16 | <Universe> | vektor... Do you know what it might mean if mythtv is giving me a error VIDOCGMBUF:: Bad address |
| 13:20 | <Universe> | I am attempting to get my voodoo 3500 working for mythtv |
| 13:30 | <Namapoos> | vektor, so you are finally doing the dscaler linux ;) |
| 13:30 | <Namapoos> | :D |
| 13:31 | <Namapoos> | and not just every linux app, but every multimedia app |
| 13:31 | <Namapoos> | regardless of the system |
| 13:47 | <OrangeSun> | nm: any idea about the channel changing thingi? |
| 13:48 | <OrangeSun> | basically, I'm trying to get it so that I can change channels in the > 125 range (i.e., from my satellite).. |
| 13:48 | <OrangeSun> | I've heard this is possible.. and isaac talks about it in some emails to the list, but I don't know what to modify! |
| 14:30 | <Namapoos> | OrangeSun, you are trying to do directv stuff rt? |
