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| 17:24 | <mdz> | just started setting up mythmusic, looks good so far |
| 17:24 | <mdz> | would be nice if it gave a 'please wait' before spending many minutes scanning for songs |
| 17:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:25 | <mdz> | looks like oggs go very quickly, but mp3s are slow...I suppose it's necessary to read the whole file to get the id3? |
| 17:26 | <mdz> | I hate mp3 |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | i don't have any mp3s |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | anymore, that is |
| 17:26 | <Chutt> | i've reripped every CD i have with ogg or flac now, using mythmusic |
| 17:26 | <mdz> | yeah, all of the stuff that comes from my CDs is in ogg now |
| 17:26 | <mdz> | almost all, anyway. a couple of the CDs are in boxes and such |
| 17:27 | <mdz> | I have some recordings and such that are only in mp3 from a long time ago |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | but, yeah, i think it needs to read in the entire mp3 file to grab the id3 tag |
| 17:27 | <mdz> | painful over NFS :-) |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | i'm just using a library for that, though, so there's not much i can do 'bout it |
| 17:27 | <Chutt> | yeah, someone else said it took a couple days to index his collection over smb =) |
| 17:28 | <mdz> | all of the mythmusic dependencies are easily satisfied in Debian...except for mythtv, of course :-) |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | that was kindof the idea when i was writing it |
| 17:28 | <mdz> | doesn't bother me much; it'll be a good incentive to get people off of mp3 and onto vorbis |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:28 | <Chutt> | and, it really only should happen the first time it's run on a particular collection |
| 17:29 | <Chutt> | every other time it just checks for the filename to be present |
| 17:29 | <mdz> | I figured |
| 17:30 | <mdz> | hmm...it hit a directory that it couldn't read (wrong permissions) and appears to have stopped indexing |
| 17:30 | <mdz> | QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: ... |
| 17:31 | <mdz> | and no more Checking: ... output |
| 17:31 | <mdz> | brb |
| 17:45 | <mdz> | grr, restarted it and it started over, then did the same thing on a different directory |
| 17:45 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | dunno |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | ah |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | in mythmusic/main.cpp |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | after line 85 |
| 17:46 | <Chutt> | const QFileInfoList *list = d.entryInfoList(); |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | can you stick a line: if (!list) return; |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | and see if that helps? |
| 17:47 | <mdz> | ok |
| 17:47 | <mdz> | I'll have to un-fix the permissions first ;-) |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | that should work, i think |
| 17:47 | <Chutt> | still not completely familiar with qt =) |
| 17:49 | <mdz> | yep, seems to fix it |
| 17:52 | <Chutt> | cool, that'll be in my next commit, then |
| 17:55 | <vektor> | Qt rocks in so many ways. |
| 17:56 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 17:56 | <Chutt> | first time i've used it, really |
| 17:57 | <Chutt> | previous experience was with gtk |
| 17:57 | <Chutt> | and this is sooooo much nicer =) |
| 17:58 | <Chutt> | haven't really had to crack open the source to figure out what the hell was going on in there yet |
| 17:58 | <vektor> | Exactly. |
| 17:59 | <vektor> | Qt programming is gorgeous. |
| 17:59 | <vektor> | KDE isn't as nice, unforunaately. They don't (or didn't) have as strict rules on style and cleanliness in their libs. |
| 18:00 | <mdz> | grr, scanning my entire collection for the 4th time now |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | sorry =) |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | it is more meant to be self contained |
| 18:00 | <Chutt> | and not really deal with an already existing music collection |
| 18:00 | <mdz> | this one was my fault; it failed to open musicmenu.xml and quit before saving anything to the db |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | hrm |
| 18:02 | <Chutt> | it should be writing stuff to the db as it goes |
| 18:03 | <mdz> | hmm |
| 18:04 | <mdz> | so it does; I see stuff in there from the current run |
| 18:04 | <mdz> | I wonder why it started from the beginning then |
| 18:04 | <Chutt> | well |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | it is going through and checking each file if it's in the db or not |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | so it'll still print things out |
| 18:05 | <mdz> | it's still taking a long time on the mp3s, though |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | hm |
| 18:05 | <Chutt> | dunno, then |
| 18:05 | <mdz> | well, this time it finished |
| 18:05 | <mdz> | so I'm not going to worry about it |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | i wonder how hard it'd be to pull album cover art off of allmusic or whatnot |
| 18:13 | <mdz> | heh, synaesthesia is a nice touch |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 18:13 | <mdz> | the Play screen is a bit tricky to navigate with the keyboard |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | yup, that it is |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | i need to make up and down actually go up and down =) |
| 18:13 | <mdz> | heh |
| 18:15 | <Chutt> | binding each button to a keyboard key would work as well |
| 18:15 | <Chutt> | but my remote doesn't have enough buttons yet, until i make a better ir receiver |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | the XF86 keysyms would be useful here too |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | I haven't yet found a good key to bind 'space' to |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | my remote doesn't have a space bar :-) |
| 18:26 | <mdz> | it has a button with a checked box, though, that might work well. currently it sends KP_Enter and I use it as an enter key, like after entering a channel |
| 18:27 | <mdz> | I have my channel down/up keys bound to Next and Prior, since there are separate arrow keys |
| 18:30 | <mdz> | is there a more proper way to change installprefix than to just patch all of the occurrences? |
| 18:32 | <mdz> | it's going to need to go in /usr for the packages |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | it is hardcoded everywhere =) |
| 18:57 | <Chutt> | changing that's the only way |
| 19:07 | <mdz> | have you experimented with any IR transmitters? |
| 19:07 | <Chutt> | no |
| 19:08 | <mdz> | being able to capture from the cable converter isn't too much fun unless I can change the channel on it as well |
| 19:08 | <Chutt> | that's up to someone who actually needs that to do =) |
| 19:08 | <mdz> | yeah, I'm just wondering about hardware |
| 19:09 | <mdz> | can an IrDA device be used for this sort of thing? they seem to have USB IrDA stuff for pretty cheap now |
| 19:09 | <Chutt> | wouldn't know |
| 19:09 | <Chutt> | might look around on the lirc site |
| 19:09 | <mdz> | I'm not too much into building this kind of thing |
| 19:10 | <mdz> | I looked around lirc, they are all about building stuff :-) |
| 19:11 | <mdz> | they are mostly about receiving, too, it seems |
| 19:14 | <kleetus> | i had the good fortune the other night to speak to vektor and review his website...are there any feelings about getting a 2:1 for mythtv in terms of refresh rate to frames...and keeping this sync'ed? |
| 19:16 | <kleetus> | mythtv works great for me...but i wanted to get rid of the jitter accompanied with not having the 60hz vert refresh out of sync with the frame rate..causing the jitter |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | if someone wants to do the work, sure |
| 19:16 | <Chutt> | i've got enough to do at the moment |
| 19:16 | <kleetus> | such as when you watch CNN with the scrolling news at the bottom...making this smooth |
| 19:16 | <kleetus> | oh i understand, hehe...just something i am thinking about :) |
| 19:17 | <Chutt> | i definately wouldn't be opposed to it, if that's what you're asking |
| 19:18 | <kleetus> | well..i think this would involving patching X for this and Billy Biggs has done this..I am going to pick his brain on this |
| 19:19 | <kleetus> | he says this sort of scheduling might be 2.5 of the kernel |
| 19:20 | <kleetus> | might be in 2.5 rather |
| 19:20 | <mdz> | Chutt: argh...it's hardcoded all over the makefiles too :-) |
| 19:20 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 19:20 | <Chutt> | i don't need it anywhere else, so =) |
| 19:20 | <kleetus> | i understand tedious and non trivial |
| 19:21 | <mdz> | Chutt: then why does your configure script have a --prefix option? to tease me? |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | yeah, pretty much |
| 19:22 | <Chutt> | basically, the configure script only does things related to libavcodec |
| 19:22 | <mdz> | thanks :-) |
| 19:23 | <mdz> | only 64 files to modify |
| 19:23 | <mdz> | a fertile garden for conflicts when merging new releases :-) |
| 19:23 | <Chutt> | it could probably be pulled out into a file or two |
| 19:23 | <vektor> | Patching X for what? |
| 19:23 | <Chutt> | if you tried hard enough :p |
| 19:23 | <vektor> | What did I do? |
| 19:24 | <mdz> | vektor: refresh sync |
| 19:24 | <vektor> | Ah. ;-) |
| 19:24 | <vektor> | Woopie! :) |
| 19:24 | <kleetus> | cool vektor's her |
| 19:24 | <kleetus> | here |
| 19:24 | <mdz> | if I let loose on your build system it would be autoconfiscated, and I don't think you would like it |
| 19:24 | <Chutt> | no |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | i despise auto* |
| 19:25 | <vektor> | I'm not really here. Doing my DSP assignment. |
| 19:25 | * vektor | hates hwk. |
| 19:25 | <mdz> | this stuff is all generated from some IDE, though, isn't it? |
| 19:25 | <mdz> | qmake, according to the comments |
| 19:25 | <kleetus> | you were saying the other night about lower vert refreshes the havoc they play on sync |
| 19:25 | <vektor> | kleetus: Yes, yes I was. |
| 19:25 | <Chutt> | nope, it's not an ide |
| 19:26 | <kleetus> | vektor: I was expounding the virtue of your good work :) |
| 19:26 | <vektor> | kleetus: Thanks! :) |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | it's just trolltech's little command line make helper app |
| 19:26 | <Chutt> | it's fairly nice, and it lets me not use autocrap |
| 19:26 | <mdz> | it does not have a man page |
| 19:26 | <kleetus> | anyway...your literatiure does not go into the future kernel enhancement |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | there's quite a few docs about it on doc.trolltech.com/3.0/qmake-manual.html |
| 19:27 | <mdz> | funny, the input looks a lot like automake :-) |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | yeah, it does |
| 19:27 | <Chutt> | but, it doesn't suck, so =) |
| 19:28 | <mdz> | at least automake has real docs |
| 19:29 | <Chutt> | automake has crappy info docs |
| 19:29 | <mdz> | it also has HTMLllllllllll |
| 19:29 | <mdz> | this keyboard is funny about caps lock sometimes |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | generated from the info docs =) |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:30 | <mdz> | yeah, it comes out reasonable |
| 19:30 | <Chutt> | i just have a deep-seated dislike of anything auto* related |
| 19:30 | <mdz> | that is not unusual, or unfounded |
| 19:30 | <mdz> | there is a lot to hate |
| 19:32 | <vektor> | auto* is a staple of true portability though. |
| 19:32 | <vektor> | (to UNIXalikes) |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | not as its usually used, though |
| 19:32 | <vektor> | True. |
| 19:32 | <vektor> | Most people do all this checking that never gets checked. |
| 19:32 | <Chutt> | 'zactly |
| 19:32 | <vektor> | Plus, m4 sucks my bum. |
| 19:33 | <vektor> | And finally, I have a true dislike of 'info'. |
| 19:33 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 19:33 | <vektor> | That said, I still use auto* tools. |
| 19:37 | <mdz> | but here I've been looking through all 5 pages of docs for qmake and don't see how to set where thinsg are installed |
| 19:38 | <mdz> | what happens by default, if you don't set target.path, and how to change it? these kinds of things do not seem to be addressed in the docs |
| 19:47 | <mdz> | Chutt: where did helr.ttf come from, and what is the license on it? |
| 19:47 | <mdz> | Chutt: strings finds a Sun Microsystems copyright |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | it's from open office |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | it's _technically_ GPLd |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | they can't revoke it on something already distributed |
| 20:39 | <Chutt> | feel free to replace it with something free-er if you want |
| 20:48 | <Chutt> | i think the debian people removed those fonts from other things, though |
| 21:04 | <mdz> | Chutt: yeah, the openoffice fonts turned out to be very not free |
| 21:04 | <mdz> | Chutt: but now we have ttf-freefont |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | Chutt: assuming helr.ttf is Helvetica, freefont's Serif should drop right in |
| 21:05 | <mdz> | or is it Sans...one of them |
| 21:06 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 21:07 | <Chutt> | long as it looks ok |
| 21:09 | <mdz> | that's your call; apt-get install ttf-freefont and see |
| 21:24 | <vektor> | helr.ttf is 'ok'. |
| 21:25 | <mdz> | vektor: 'ok'? |
| 21:26 | <vektor> | i don't think it's great for video |
| 21:33 | <vektor> | well, i'm having a difficult time making it look good. |
| 21:33 | <vektor> | well, that's a lie. |
| 21:33 | <vektor> | it's actually really neat to be able to composite text on live video. |
| 21:33 | * vektor | should post my app |
| 21:33 | <vektor> | i'm trying to improve the 'border' code. |
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| 21:48 | <vektor> | So, I want to get an IR receiver. |
| 21:48 | <vektor> | What should I get? |
| 21:49 | <mdz> | an RF receiver :-) |
| 21:50 | <vektor> | Huh? |
| 21:50 | * vektor | does not get the joke :) |
| 21:50 | <mdz> | I had been planning to get an IR receiver, but my video card came with an RF remote. I am using it or the same purpose and am pleased with it |
| 21:51 | <vektor> | How does it work under linux? |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | Is it like /dev/something, or fake keyboard input? |
| 21:52 | <mdz> | it is a USB device |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | Oh. |
| 21:52 | <mdz> | shows up as a USB keyboard and mouse |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | Weeeird ;-) |
| 21:52 | <mdz> | integrates much nicer than an IR device |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | Can you buy these things separately? |
| 21:52 | <mdz> | yes |
| 21:52 | * vektor | would love to get something USB-ific. |
| 21:52 | <mdz> | I just saw one |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | Ok, from wherez? |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | Reet~ |
| 21:52 | <mdz> | let me find you a URL |
| 21:52 | <vektor> | where? |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | thanks! |
| 21:53 | <mdz> | mine is ATI branded, but it is actually an X10 device I understand |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | Ewww, X10 ;-) |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | I thought they were cool like 10 years ago. |
| 21:53 | <vektor> | Then they like spammed the fuck out of me. |
| 21:54 | <vektor> | Like, every day. |
| 21:54 | <vektor> | Now I think they're less cool. |
| 22:01 | <mdz> | oh, ATI sells it standalone |
| 22:01 | <mdz> | http://www.ati.com/products/pc/remotewonder/ |
| 22:01 | <mdz> | manufacturer and distributor notwithstanding, it works great |
| 22:01 | <mdz> | no line-of-sight problems either |
| 22:01 | <mdz> | and the range is good |
| 22:01 | <mdz> | it comes in very handy when I'm messing with mythtv and such things |
| 22:02 | <mdz> | because I can sit at my workstation in the next room and control mythtv running in the living room with the remote from my desk |
| 22:02 | <vektor> | Wow that looks really cool. |
| 22:03 | <mdz> | I figured it would sit in the closet along with the software bundle |
| 22:03 | <mdz> | but it turned out to be extremely useful |
| 22:03 | <vektor> | Is it heavy and annoying? |
| 22:03 | <mdz> | it is about the same weight as a standard remote |
| 22:04 | <mdz> | it is about the same width and height also |
| 22:04 | <mdz> | but it is thicker |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | Coool. |
| 22:04 | <mdz> | the bottom is rounded, though, so it is comfortable to hold |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | i just want to build a little serial ir receiver, so i can use my universal remote |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | Chutt: Where can you get them? |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | I wouldn't mind a serial IR receiver. |
| 22:04 | <Chutt> | there's schematics on the lirc page |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | This remote wonder is like $50 canadian, afaict. |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | Expensive. |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | Schemantics?? |
| 22:04 | <vektor> | Not for me, man. |
| 22:04 | <mdz> | came free with the video card |
| 22:04 | * vektor | == software, no hardware leet skillz |
| 22:05 | <mdz> | yeah, for some reason it is hard to buy them, everyone ends up building them |
| 22:05 | <vektor> | Fuck that. :) |
| 22:05 | <Chutt> | bah, like $15 worth of parts |
| 22:05 | <vektor> | I guess I could try... but damn..... |
| 22:05 | <Chutt> | the tv card came with a remote, but it's a crappy protocol |
| 22:05 | <Chutt> | it doesn't do general remote controls |
| 22:07 | <vektor> | ok lirc page has a list of hardware. |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | that too |
| 22:07 | <Chutt> | the irman's like $40 us, and'll work with any remote |
| 22:08 | <vektor> | I need my serial port for my dumbterms. |
| 22:08 | <vektor> | So I don't know abnout serial ones. |
| 22:08 | <vektor> | Is the irman usb-based? |
| 22:08 | <Chutt> | it's serial, iirc |
| 22:09 | <vektor> | Dang. |
| 22:09 | <vektor> | see, i own 'dumbterm.net'. |
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| 22:09 | <vektor> | So it would be bad if I didn't have a dumbterm hooked up ;-) |
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| 22:33 | <kleetus> | hey one note about building the lirc receiver....the radio shack IR receivers are bad about ambient light capture...you need to filter them pretty heavily |
| 22:35 | <vektor> | Dang. |
| 22:35 | <vektor> | I'll just buy something. |
| 22:35 | <vektor> | If I can get away with it. |
| 22:55 | <mdz> | Chutt: have I told you how excellent mythtv is? |
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| 23:17 | <kleetus> | I would have to agree with mdz...thanks for writing such an excellent program...and making it open source |
| 23:18 | <kleetus> | but you do realize you're killing Tivo, Ultimate and Replay Tv's revenue model... |
| 23:18 | <kleetus> | darn |
| 23:18 | <mdz> | kleetus: no, xmltv did that |
| 23:19 | <nyquiljer> | I imagine eventually all the plaes xmltv gets its listings from will take notice |
| 23:20 | <mdz> | I don't see the problem, really...the broadcasters should _want_ their listings to be freely publicized |
| 23:20 | <mdz> | so that people will find what they want, and watch their channel |
| 23:20 | <nyquiljer> | I know, youd think it would be that way |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | zap2it makes a lot of their money selling those listings to other companies |
| 23:20 | <Chutt> | well, their parent company does |
| 23:22 | <mdz> | I just had a scheduled recording finish, and the program does not show up in the list of recordings for some reason |
| 23:22 | <Chutt> | have to exit the playback screen |
| 23:22 | <mdz> | hmm, it's not in the database either |
| 23:22 | <Chutt> | it won't update for you |
| 23:23 | <Chutt> | ah, heh |
| 23:23 | <Chutt> | never seen that happen |
| 23:23 | <Chutt> | i've got, oh, 40 gigs or so of shows recorded now =) |
| 23:23 | <mdz> | yeah, I have a bunch of other stuff recorded and it's all there |
| 23:23 | <mdz> | one recording just finished and another started immediately after |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | first didn't show up, though? |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | hm |
| 23:24 | <mdz> | second hasn't finished yet |
| 23:24 | <Chutt> | was the first a single record, did it get removed from that table? |
| 23:25 | <mdz> | heh, my query log is full of "SELECT data FROM settings..." every 1 second |
| 23:25 | <mdz> | makes it tough to see what's going on |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 23:25 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:25 | <vektor> | I just bought an 80G drive. |
| 23:25 | <vektor> | So I have 196gb of space in total, but most is used :) |
| 23:26 | <Chutt> | easiest way to figure out if there's been a change in the schedule |
| 23:26 | <mdz> | vektor: that happens with video :-) |
| 23:26 | <vektor> | Well this isn't video. |
| 23:26 | <vektor> | I just have alot of stuff. |
| 23:26 | <vektor> | I needed the 80 gigs for video :) |
| 23:26 | <mdz> | aha, it has a record in 'oldrecorded' but not in 'recorded' |
| 23:27 | <mdz> | what is the difference? |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | weird |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | oldrecorded is the list of everything you've ever recorded |
| 23:27 | <Chutt> | used to prune out dupes |
| 23:28 | <kleetus> | yeah i bought an 80g too...cheap...60 bucks...IBM 7200 |
| 23:28 | <mdz> | that INSERT is all there is for several minutes before or after |
| 23:29 | <mdz> | hmm, it happens on a different connection than the normal mythtv noise |
| 23:29 | <vektor> | 60 bucks? |
| 23:29 | <mdz> | is that normal? or does everything go over one pipe? |
| 23:29 | <vektor> | jeez, I got ripped :) |
| 23:30 | <vektor> | I paid $200 canadian, so like, $120 USD. |
| 23:30 | <mdz> | vektor: you did get ripped off |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | each thread gets its own db connection |
| 23:30 | <kleetus> | well...i mean US dollars you're canadian vektor? |
| 23:30 | <mdz> | big disks are falling below $1/gig |
| 23:30 | <vektor> | Where should I buy drives? |
| 23:30 | <mdz> | vektor: www.pricewatch.com |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | mdz, there should've been another query right before the oldrecorded |
| 23:30 | <kleetus> | yep..whee i got mine |
| 23:30 | <Chutt> | i buy all my hardware at newegg |
| 23:31 | <mdz> | newegg is pretty good, I bought my video card from them |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | they don't overcharge for shipping, etc |
| 23:31 | <mdz> | for commodity stuff like hard drives with a good manufacturer warranty, I just go for the cheapest vendor which doesn't look too shady |
| 23:31 | <kleetus> | Chutt: does your 440Ti vid card judder with scrolling text? |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | a little |
| 23:31 | <mdz> | Chutt: there is no other query anywhere near it |
| 23:31 | <kleetus> | doesn't distract your viewing? |
| 23:31 | <Chutt> | nope |
| 23:32 | <kleetus> | ok...thanks |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | it'd be nice if it didn't |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | but, whatever =) |
| 23:32 | <mdz> | is there any other tool which can read these mpeg-4 nuv files? I'd really like to be able to manipulate them |
| 23:32 | <vektor> | mdz: It's easy to build one. |
| 23:32 | <Chutt> | someone has to write that |
| 23:32 | <vektor> | I can write one if you like. |
| 23:33 | <Chutt> | it'd be really easy to adapt an existing .nuv reader for them |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | mencoder reads .nuv |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | and if it could read mythtv stuff I would be in great shape |
| 23:33 | <vektor> | EIDE 80Gb is $90usd on pricewatch... |
| 23:33 | <vektor> | So given that I picked mine up at a store, that's comparable. |
| 23:33 | <mdz> | vektor: oh, you bought from a store |
| 23:34 | <vektor> | (those are all 5400s too) |
| 23:34 | <vektor> | Yeah, aactually it was pretty funny. |
| 23:34 | <kleetus> | wow..I paid a bit less....but with shipping it was like 15 |
| 23:34 | <vektor> | I walked into this little computer store and said "I need to store my leet warez, and I have alot of leet warez." |
| 23:34 | <vektor> | "do you sell big drives for warezing?" |
| 23:34 | <kleetus> | i wouldn't buy a 5400...there is a big performance hit, don't you all think? |
| 23:34 | <vektor> | and the guy gave me a funny look |
| 23:34 | <mdz> | I bought an 80GB IBM 7200RPM about 7 months ago for $150 |
| 23:35 | <mdz> | they have come way down since then |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | mdz, i don't see anything that makes the oldrecorded insert any different from the recorded one :( |
| 23:35 | <mdz> | Chutt: where does it happen in the code? |
| 23:35 | <mdz> | Chutt: do they both happen in the same place? |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | libs/libmyth/programinfo.cpp |
| 23:35 | <Chutt> | exact same place |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | last function in the file |
| 23:36 | <mdz> | yeah, that's weird |
| 23:36 | <mdz> | the fact that it happened in a separate connection is doubly weird |
| 23:36 | <Chutt> | it's supposed to be in a separate connection |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | that was the tv object's db connection |
| 23:37 | <mdz> | oh, I didn't see that from the function |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | well, those two inserts are supposed to happen in a different connection from the scheduler checking for updates |
| 23:37 | <mdz> | so it is supposed to open a new connection, and then the 'recorded' insert should be the first thing it does? |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | saves me from doing excessive locking |
| 23:37 | <kleetus> | Chutt: what tv tuner card are you using? |
| 23:37 | <Chutt> | nope, the connection gets initialized when the tv object gets setup |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | back when mythfrontend starts |
| 23:38 | <mdz> | ok, this is definitely wrong then |
| 23:38 | <mdz> | because I'm getting a Connect in the log immediately before the insert |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | kleetus, a hauppauge wintv-radio as a primary card, and a ati tv wonder-ve |
| 23:38 | <kleetus> | ok...cool |
| 23:38 | <Chutt> | mdz, qt's sql stuff may disconnect/reconnect at will, i dunno |
| 23:39 | <mdz> | well, great |
| 23:40 | <kleetus> | as far as sql stuff, does this making opimizing mysql kind of difficult because there are so many connects/disconnects? |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | there would appear to be a bug somewhere |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | i don't know anything about mysql |
| 23:40 | <Chutt> | mdz, find it and patch it? =) |
| 23:40 | <mdz> | Chutt: that would be the thing to do, yes |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:41 | <-- nyquiljer | (jer@12.211.16.232) has left #mythtv |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | Chutt: if it happens again with the second recording, then maybe I will have something to go on |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | ok, cool. |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | Chutt: but you know that if it does, and I add some debugging and restart myth, it will never ever happen again |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | as it is right now, though, i don't see anything that could cause that |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:41 | <Chutt> | heisenbugs suck |
| 23:41 | <mdz> | it looks like oldrecorded and recorded are in the same format. can I just copy the record from oldrecorded to fix the immediate problem? |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | yup |
| 23:42 | <kleetus> | Chutt: have you experienced weirdness when you exit back to mythfrontend from tv watching then you try to go back into tv watching...weirdness i mean sometimes a bluescreen sometimes a green screen and sometimes a lockup? |
| 23:42 | <Chutt> | nope, never |
| 23:43 | <kleetus> | this usually happens when I switch back and forth really fast |
| 23:43 | <vektor> | doctor, it hurts when i do 'this' |
| 23:43 | <vektor> | doctor replies: don't do that |
| 23:43 | <Chutt> | heh |
| 23:43 | <kleetus> | heh |
| 23:44 | <kleetus> | fair enough |
| 23:45 | * vektor | sleep |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | it shouldn't be hanging, though |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | if you can reproduce it with debugging enabled |
| 23:45 | <Chutt> | and send me a backtrace, that'd be cool |
| 23:45 | <kleetus> | cool... |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | just run it in gdb and hit ctl-c when it hangs |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | anyway |
| 23:46 | <kleetus> | yep...I remember you skooling me on this one before:) |
| 23:46 | <Chutt> | i think i'll go back to playing starfox now =) |
| 23:47 | <mdz> | Chutt: what versions of the qt stuff are you using? unstable? |
