| --- | Log | opened Wed Apr 04 00:00:35 2012 |
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| 00:05 | * | KyleXY coughs *dwfreed* |
| 00:05 | <KyleXY> | ;) |
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| 00:08 | <dwfreed> | KyleXY: actually, it's not me :) |
| 00:09 | <KyleXY> | dwfreed: then probably mikegrb |
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| 01:44 | <TeddyR> | Anyone here having issues with kernel panics recently? In the past 3 weeks, I have had my L512 hang at 100% CPU and then the log shows http://p.linode.com/6504 (unfortunately I do not know how to read these yet).. Dont know if I am running out of RAM or if there is something more serious going on.... This node has alot running, but is not full production (its my "allinone playground")... |
| 01:44 | <@akerl> | TeddyR: What kernel? |
| 01:45 | <TeddyR> | This has happened at least twice a week in the last 3. its on Fedora 15, 3.2.1-x86_64-linode23 |
| 01:46 | <XReaper> | TeddyR: 3.2.1 is bad |
| 01:46 | <XReaper> | bo back to latest 3 |
| 01:46 | <XReaper> | We know of those issues |
| 01:46 | <KyleXY> | bo back, sounds fun |
| 01:46 | <XReaper> | *go |
| 01:46 | <@akerl> | A) Fedora >.< B) "Latest 3.0" is your friend |
| 01:46 | <KyleXY> | :) |
| 01:47 | <XReaper> | Yeah... TeddyR, some other people have posted logs of death from their servers running 3.2.1 |
| 01:47 | <Kyhwana> | hmm |
| 01:47 | <XReaper> | 3.1.8 is a good kernel |
| 01:47 | <Kyhwana> | hmm, im on linode 3.2.1 linode 40 |
| 01:47 | <XReaper> | yeah, those kernels are bad |
| 01:47 | <@akerl> | 3.1.8? |
| 01:47 | <KyleXY> | I'm still on 2.6, heh |
| 01:48 | <XReaper> | 3.1? |
| 01:48 | <EugeneKay> | 2.6 4 lyfe |
| 01:48 | <XReaper> | i don't know |
| 01:48 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: I just haven't bothered rebooting |
| 01:48 | <@akerl> | XReaper: 3.0.18 |
| 01:48 | <EugeneKay> | A good reason |
| 01:48 | <XReaper> | 3.0.18 |
| 01:48 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:48 | <XReaper> | lol |
| 01:48 | <XReaper> | kay |
| 01:48 | <XReaper> | missed a 0 |
| 01:48 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: Which reminds me, I really should make a damn init script to make my life easier |
| 01:49 | <KyleXY> | Then I could reboot easily |
| 01:49 | <TeddyR> | ok. will try 3.0/3.1 ... thing is that this only started 3 weeks ago... before that it (3.2) had no issues.. |
| 01:49 | <EugeneKay> | KyleXY - Upstart or traditional SysV? |
| 01:49 | <XReaper> | 3.2.1 is dodge (i've had no issues tho...) but i do run arch... |
| 01:49 | <EugeneKay> | !arch |
| 01:49 | <linbot> | The Romans used Arch. Worked out GREAT for their civilization. |
| 01:50 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: Considering last I checked debian didn't have upstart, (unless memory is bad), traditional |
| 01:50 | <Kyhwana> | no problems on mine |
| 01:50 | <Kyhwana> | uptime of 71 days |
| 01:50 | <EugeneKay> | KyleXY - here's a shell of one I cobbled together to autostart my ZNC. https://github.com/EugeneKay/scripts/blob/master/etc/init.d/znc.sh |
| 01:50 | <XReaper> | Upstart is ubuntu |
| 01:50 | <XReaper> | -specific |
| 01:50 | <KyleXY> | XReaper: somewhat |
| 01:50 | <KyleXY> | XReaper: others adapted to it too |
| 01:50 | <XReaper> | Install systemd! |
| 01:51 | <@akerl> | systemd = evil |
| 01:51 | <XReaper> | akerl: apart from the fact linode is set up to use sysv-init why so evil? :P |
| 01:51 | <@akerl> | i just didn't have a good experience working it |
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| 01:52 | <jed> | XReaper: many distros provided by linode come with upstart |
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| 01:52 | <XReaper> | upstart works in with sysvinit doesn't it? |
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| 01:53 | <jed> | no, upstart replaces sysv init |
| 01:53 | <XReaper> | and provides a compatibility layer |
| 01:53 | <XReaper> | mmm... |
| 01:54 | <@array> | jed: imposter |
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| 01:55 | <jed> | array: no u |
| 01:55 | * | XReaper gives array some values |
| 01:55 | <XReaper> | s/values/data/ |
| 01:56 | * | array doesn't fear the reaper |
| 01:58 | <XReaper> | I wonder if the arch kernels will work with pv-grub... |
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| 01:58 | <KyleXY> | So tempted to make an alpine linode |
| 01:58 | <XReaper> | alpine? |
| 01:59 | <dwfreed> | XReaper: one of those Linux distros you've never heard of |
| 01:59 | <@array> | XReaper: http://alpinelinux.org/ |
| 01:59 | <XReaper> | oh cool |
| 02:01 | <jed> | danny |
| 02:01 | <jed> | i'm about to drop my nick on dalnet |
| 02:01 | <@array> | jed |
| 02:03 | <KyleXY> | neat little distro, though |
| 02:05 | <igufi> | Is there such a thing as a trusted PPA for Ubuntu? |
| 02:05 | <rnowak> | ha ha PPA |
| 02:05 | <@akerl> | haha trusting PPAs |
| 02:05 | <igufi> | I'm trying to find a easy way to get vim 7.3 installed |
| 02:05 | <@akerl> | why? |
| 02:05 | <Zr40> | ubuntu doesn't offer 7.3? |
| 02:06 | <igufi> | I'd like to use "set relativenumbering", among other things |
| 02:06 | <igufi> | 10.04 doesn't have it |
| 02:06 | <@akerl> | You could try Arch? |
| 02:06 | <igufi> | 7.2 |
| 02:06 | <rnowak> | ha ha trusting arch is like trusting random PPAs |
| 02:06 | <StevenK> | 7.3 is in 11.04+ |
| 02:07 | <igufi> | will I break everything if I add 11.04 repository and install vim via that? |
| 02:07 | <igufi> | would that even work? |
| 02:07 | <Zr40> | can't you just upgrade to 11.04? |
| 02:07 | <rnowak> | so what feature from 7.3 is it that you want? |
| 02:07 | * | EugeneKay tries to decide between adding a third Linode or using his referral credits to pay the bill |
| 02:07 | <Zr40> | rnowak: he said it was relativenumber |
| 02:07 | <bob2> | yes just installing the binary package from 11.04 will be troublesome |
| 02:08 | <igufi> | bob2: ok .. I won't try that then |
| 02:08 | <rnowak> | Zr40: are you igufi? |
| 02:08 | <Zr40> | rnowak: no, but igufi literally said he wanted that |
| 02:08 | <igufi> | I did, yes |
| 02:08 | <rnowak> | Zr40: "among other things" |
| 02:09 | <Zr40> | rnowak: then, s/what feature/what other features/ :) |
| 02:09 | <rnowak> | Zr40: I'll tell you if I want a summary |
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| 02:11 | <igufi> | so what else? :later :earlier .. set colorcolumn would be nice too |
| 02:12 | <igufi> | anyway, I'm just going through my options on how to get 7.3 |
| 02:12 | <igufi> | I could also wait for the next LTS release .. it's coming out this month, I believe? |
| 02:13 | <retro|blah> | Yes |
| 02:13 | <rnowak> | well, it is likely going to be a one-off installation considering how many patches vim receives |
| 02:13 | <igufi> | and I'm sure there will be good guides on how to upgrade from one LTS to the next |
| 02:13 | <@akerl> | lolupgrades |
| 02:13 | <rnowak> | compile yourself, checkinstall it, and you'll have a nice .deb |
| 02:15 | <igufi> | I would yes, but then I would have to patch it myself in the future |
| 02:15 | <vodka> | new vim releases stopped being exiting when I realized I didn't even use 1/10th of its current features anyway ;p |
| 02:16 | <@akerl> | exiting? |
| 02:16 | <vodka> | insert missing letters to taste |
| 02:16 | <@akerl> | :P |
| 02:16 | <rnowak> | existing? |
| 02:16 | <retro|blah> | As much as I love vim I do value the ability to exit it |
| 02:16 | <rnowak> | so what you're saying is that you're a dirty emacsos user+ |
| 02:17 | <Zr40> | emacs users don't even pretend to have the need to exit their OS |
| 02:17 | <retro|blah> | ha |
| 02:17 | <vodka> | nah I am saying all I use is open file, go to line, change line, :wq |
| 02:17 | <jed> | :%s/blargh/bling/g <-- your pal |
| 02:17 | <EugeneKay> | sed -i s/blargh/bling/g |
| 02:17 | <vodka> | indeed |
| 02:17 | <jed> | ...you're already in vim |
| 02:18 | <jed> | why do I even bother |
| 02:18 | <retro|blah> | :o |
| 02:18 | <amitz> | did someone say...oh, it's just a text editor, never mind. |
| 02:18 | * | vodka should have a look at vims features and learn to use more of them ;p |
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| 02:28 | <Phr34Ck> | Hello, I have bought domainname.com. I went to DNS manager and created new master zone using domainname.com and my email address. Where should I specify that this domain is pointing to a specific ip address where the web application is hosted? I want http://domainname.com to point to that ip address. |
| 02:28 | <Phr34Ck> | I looked into A records, but they require a hostname (like www) |
| 02:28 | <@akerl> | A) A/AAAA records B) I doubt you bought domainname.come |
| 02:29 | <@akerl> | s/e$// |
| 02:29 | <KyleXY> | don't we have an alias about nerfing configs? |
| 02:29 | <KyleXY> | Close enough? heh |
| 02:29 | <KyleXY> | Phr34Ck: the hostname can be blank |
| 02:29 | <KyleXY> | Phr34Ck: not "required" |
| 02:29 | <Phr34Ck> | KyleXY: ahhh, that's why it took it empty when I put domainname.com ! |
| 02:30 | <Phr34Ck> | thank you |
| 02:30 | <Zr40> | !to KyleXY redact -- this one? |
| 02:30 | <Zr40> | !redact |
| 02:30 | <linbot> | Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are. |
| 02:30 | <KyleXY> | !redact |
| 02:30 | <linbot> | Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are. |
| 02:30 | <KyleXY> | yeah |
| 02:32 | <Kyhwana> | Phr34Ck: A/AAAA records |
| 02:33 | <Kyhwana> | then you need to setup virtualhosting on your webserver |
| 02:34 | <fayimora> | Please how do i know the amount of storage space used? |
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| 02:34 | <KyleXY> | fayimora: df |
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| 02:34 | <KyleXY> | fayimora: df -m might be better |
| 02:34 | <fayimora> | i don't understand. want me to run this from my terminal? |
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| 02:35 | <Kyhwana> | yes |
| 02:35 | <fayimora> | ok |
| 02:35 | <fayimora> | thanks would try that |
| 02:37 | <fayimora> | Used 1703 |
| 02:37 | <fayimora> | Available 16941 |
| 02:38 | <fayimora> | meaning i have wat left? wat unit of measurement is that? |
| 02:38 | <Kyhwana> | megabytes |
| 02:39 | <Kyhwana> | or df -h |
| 02:39 | <fayimora> | oh yeah thanks.. phew! |
| 02:39 | <fayimora> | 17gb left ..thanks |
| 02:40 | <fayimora> | I used my iPad app and I saw 19.8 of 20.0 GB used |
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| 02:40 | <fayimora> | still weird tho |
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| 02:51 | <linbot> | (say <channel> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel>. |
| 02:52 | <jed> | heh |
| 02:52 | <@akerl> | Some people are fail |
| 02:53 | <linbot> | IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME |
| 02:56 | <marius> | And then there's Marius. |
| 02:56 | <Kyhwana> | what |
| 02:56 | <@mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 02:56 | <Kyhwana> | !bacon |
| 02:56 | <linbot> | Bacon is what makes food good! |
| 02:57 | <linbot> | hi |
| 02:57 | <Kyhwana> | it talks! |
| 02:57 | <linbot> | Stop abusing me! :( |
| 02:57 | <Kyhwana> | aww |
| 02:59 | <linbot> | _ _ _ |
| 02:59 | <linbot> | | |__ ___| | | ___ |
| 02:59 | <linbot> | | '_ \ / _ \ | |/ _ \ |
| 02:59 | <linbot> | | | | | __/ | | (_) | |
| 02:59 | <linbot> | |_| |_|\___|_|_|\___/ |
| 02:59 | <KyleXY> | oh lord |
| 02:59 | <dcraig> | all systems are operational. |
| 02:59 | <KyleXY> | I might just kill whoever adapted their ascii script for that |
| 03:00 | <linbot> | STOP TOUCHING ME |
| 03:00 | * | KyleXY kills dwfreed? |
| 03:00 | <KyleXY> | dcraig: or you dunno |
| 03:00 | * | EugeneKay cuddles his variable-width font |
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| 03:00 | <jed> | it ate extra spaces :< |
| 03:00 | * | dcraig cuddles his variable-width "font" |
| 03:01 | <jed> | jsmith@undertow:~$ IFS=$'\n'; for i in $(figlet hello); do echo "say #linode $i"; done |
| 03:01 | <Kyhwana> | !botsnack |
| 03:01 | <linbot> | Thanks, Kyhwana! Om nom nom |
| 03:01 | <KyleXY> | jed: oh god |
| 03:01 | <dcraig> | what in the |
| 03:04 | <EugeneKay> | Needs more ii |
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| 03:12 | <gylt> | jed: eheh, so, what does that do exactly? < IFS=$'\n' > wha? |
| 03:13 | <@akerl> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_field_separator <-- potentially useful |
| 03:13 | <js_> | tells bash which delimiter to use |
| 03:14 | <KyleXY> | jed: heh, yay exec/eval |
| 03:14 | <gylt> | ah ok. and the variable argument, 'figlet hello'? |
| 03:14 | <KyleXY> | gylt: bash command, |
| 03:14 | <KyleXY> | erm |
| 03:14 | <KyleXY> | not command |
| 03:15 | <KyleXY> | just a call to another program |
| 03:15 | <KyleXY> | figlet makes ascii art |
| 03:15 | <gylt> | ah, ok, I haven't heard of it :( |
| 03:15 | <jed> | this one will blow your mind: |
| 03:15 | <KyleXY> | Bah, screw it, time for bed, I'm apparently too exausted. |
| 03:15 | <jed> | $(<stuff) |
| 03:15 | <jed> | figure that one out |
| 03:16 | <KyleXY> | jed: pulls stuff in from the file stuff? |
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| 03:16 | <jed> | yeah, inline |
| 03:16 | <jed> | for i in $(<dork); do # is a common way I work |
| 03:16 | <KyleXY> | Kyles-MacBook:~ kyle$ echo $(<stuff) |
| 03:16 | <KyleXY> | test |
| 03:16 | <KyleXY> | woo for guesswork |
| 03:16 | <jed> | there's easier ways, but sometimes I have to build a command in there and it's easier |
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| 03:16 | <jed> | for i in $(awk ... < stuff); do for example |
| 03:17 | <jed> | bash-fu makes life good. |
| 03:18 | <gylt> | if I'm understanding it right, ultimately, its usage in that construct is limited to filtering files? |
| 03:18 | <jed> | it's just redirecting stdin, and without a command it becomes a "slurp" |
| 03:19 | <KyleXY> | heh |
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| 03:25 | <gylt> | so, I guess I just changed IFS's value. should I change it back, or should I not worry about it? |
| 03:25 | <jed> | it's reset at shell startup, and weird things happen if you leave it something nonstandard |
| 03:26 | <KyleXY> | wee #bash, oh wait.. |
| 03:26 | <gylt> | < See the discussion below (if possible avoid modifying IFS): |
| 03:26 | <jed> | there's also OFS |
| 03:27 | <gylt> | ok, I guess you addressed that, nvm |
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| 03:37 | <bob2> | haha |
| 03:37 | <bob2> | IFS is also part of why setuid shell scripts don't work |
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| 03:44 | * | linbot slaps SelfishMan |
| 03:45 | * | linbot slaps SelfishMan |
| 03:45 | * | jed slaps linbot |
| 03:45 | * | akerl slaps jed |
| 03:46 | <Zr40> | slap all the things! |
| 03:48 | <gylt> | wow, one should really use > with caution |
| 03:48 | <@akerl> | why? |
| 03:48 | <gylt> | (e.g., $ >somefile just erases somefile very conveniently) |
| 03:49 | <jed> | that's a pretty common admin tool |
| 03:49 | <jed> | erase a log? >bam |
| 03:49 | <gylt> | any examples of how a command may start with <? |
| 03:49 | <Zr40> | the log writers don't even need to get a new fd when you do that, right? |
| 03:50 | <@akerl> | Zr40: Why are you using > onto your log files? |
| 03:51 | <Zr40> | akerl: I'm not |
| 03:52 | <gylt> | I went to a meetup today, and I was just blown off my feet seeing a guy on the command line. I mean, with all of these nifty tricks and all.. besides the readline shortcuts, using simple things (like the < or > operators) very cleverly. I wish someone would compile a list of "things that sysadmins do often" somewhere so I don't have to quiz people "heyyy how'd you do that" so much :D |
| 03:53 | <@akerl> | gylt: Have you heard of the internet? |
| 03:53 | <@akerl> | It's full of useful tips and tricks |
| 03:53 | <jed> | I showed someone ^A and ^E |
| 03:53 | <jed> | and they were like :O |
| 03:53 | <Zr40> | hey, nice. Didn't know "< foo" would write that to stdout |
| 03:53 | <Zr40> | jed: what does that do? |
| 03:53 | <jed> | this was, of course, after watching him hold down -> to get to the end of the line |
| 03:53 | <jed> | ^A, move cursor to the front, ^E, move it to the back |
| 03:53 | <Zr40> | like, home and end? |
| 03:53 | <jed> | (for most things readline, and others) |
| 03:54 | <gylt> | do you know of ^? to undo? |
| 03:54 | <jed> | yeah, but I tend not to use it |
| 03:54 | <jed> | I stick with ^A/^E/^W |
| 03:54 | <KyleXY> | jed: heh, quite honestly I almost forgot about those |
| 03:55 | <KyleXY> | jed: I hardly use them because of screen making me have to do ^A a |
| 03:55 | <dwfreed> | ^U will clear the line |
| 03:55 | <jed> | I just do down for that |
| 03:55 | <jed> | or ^C to abort entirely |
| 03:55 | <dwfreed> | KyleXY: and because just hitting home is easy |
| 03:55 | <@array> | ^R is worth a mention |
| 03:55 | <KyleXY> | dwfreed: no home on my keyboard :p |
| 03:57 | <Zr40> | KyleXY: what keyboard is that/ |
| 03:57 | <dwfreed> | array: holy crap that's handy (and I'll forget it in 5 minutes :)) |
| 03:57 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: macbook keyboard |
| 03:57 | <Zr40> | KyleXY: fn-left |
| 03:57 | <@array> | dwfreed: hah, yes :) |
| 03:57 | <@array> | dwfreed: it's a real time saver |
| 03:57 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: Yeah I know, too far to reach with fingers though |
| 03:58 | <dwfreed> | yeah, beats history | grep by a long shot |
| 03:58 | <jed> | ^R is the best thing ever |
| 03:58 | <Zr40> | KyleXY: end: fn-right, and I think you can guess page up and down |
| 03:58 | <jed> | once you get ^R down, you are hot shit |
| 03:58 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: I just use irssi's built in stuff honestly |
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| 03:58 | <Zr40> | KyleXY: I fn-up/down in irssi. What stuff are you referring to? |
| 03:59 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: alt+p alt+n |
| 03:59 | <KyleXY> | meta* |
| 03:59 | <Zr40> | option*, since you're on osx |
| 03:59 | <KyleXY> | I left my option keys mapped to their respective things :p |
| 03:59 | <KyleXY> | ñ wee |
| 03:59 | <gylt> | to complete username, do esc~, to complete command (instead of file) do esc!, to complete hostname esc@, etc. |
| 03:59 | <KyleXY> | Just so I can do stuff like that |
| 03:59 | <Zr40> | though indeed I do have 'Use option as meta key' enabled |
| 04:00 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: I hardly use meta in irssi, |
| 04:00 | <gylt> | (of course, I don't use esc -- I use alt, more ergonomic. I've got a habit now of doing alt+shift+{`,1,2,3} now a lot for no reason) |
| 04:00 | <Zr40> | KyleXY: not even to switch between irssi windows? |
| 04:00 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: 260? pssh |
| 04:00 | <KyleXY> | Zr40: /w for the win |
| 04:00 | <Zr40> | 260? |
| 04:01 | <KyleXY> | 260 different windows. |
| 04:01 | <Zr40> | that's... a lot. |
| 04:01 | <KyleXY> | or somewhere around there, probably more now |
| 04:01 | <jed> | introducing: /wc |
| 04:01 | <KyleXY> | jed: I have a /qc for queries already heh |
| 04:01 | <KyleXY> | sad thing is a majority of them I actually talk in |
| 04:01 | <gylt> | oh, and use ^p and ^n to go up and down the history in the term (instead of up-arrow down-arrow) |
| 04:01 | <Kyh_> | aww, got some hits on the honeypot, but nothing interesting |
| 04:02 | <EugeneKay> | Which honeypot? |
| 04:02 | <Kyh_> | kippo |
| 04:03 | <Kyh_> | looks like scanning bots, they login and then just disconnect |
| 04:03 | <EugeneKay> | Ah. |
| 04:03 | <EugeneKay> | Yeah, botnet. |
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| 04:05 | <Kyh_> | Yeah |
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| 04:12 | <XReaper> | heh i watched an attack on kippo once |
| 04:13 | <XReaper> | kept trying usernames as passwords |
| 04:13 | <jed> | which, sadly, works |
| 04:13 | <XReaper> | Yup |
| 04:14 | <XReaper> | Kay... So if i want to hide the real ssh, should i run it on a port <1023? |
| 04:14 | <EugeneKay> | Yes. |
| 04:14 | <jed> | without question, and consider what you're gaining |
| 04:14 | <XReaper> | Ability to run kippo |
| 04:14 | <EugeneKay> | Use ratelimiting with a redirect |
| 04:14 | <XReaper> | nehow, i can make avail via a redirect |
| 04:14 | <XReaper> | :D |
| 04:15 | <EugeneKay> | If a source IP attempts >5 connections/min, forward them to kippo |
| 04:15 | <XReaper> | Haha! |
| 04:15 | <gylt> | why on a port above 1023? what's so special about that number? |
| 04:15 | <jed> | any user can bind to ports > 1023 |
| 04:15 | <jed> | only root can bind to ports <= 1023 |
| 04:15 | <XReaper> | nmap only searches up to 1023 |
| 04:15 | <jed> | if you let it choose defaults |
| 04:16 | <EugeneKay> | There's a question - does PREROUTING support rate-limits? |
| 04:16 | <jed> | -m limit should be available everywhere, I would think |
| 04:17 | <XReaper> | my vps is obvs the firewall :/ |
| 04:17 | <EugeneKay> | What about -m connlimit |
| 04:17 | <EugeneKay> | commlimit* |
| 04:17 | <XReaper> | had to write my own ip6tables rules on my dd-wrt |
| 04:17 | <XReaper> | that was fun... |
| 04:17 | <EugeneKay> | connlimit* |
| 04:18 | <EugeneKay> | I think I need booze. |
| 04:18 | <XReaper> | should make an automated vending machine that uses a linode :D |
| 04:18 | <EugeneKay> | Ah nvm that's only available by patch |
| 04:18 | <XReaper> | to control it |
| 04:18 | <EugeneKay> | XReaper - https://itvends.com |
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| 04:19 | <Zr40> | will it vend? |
| 04:20 | <XReaper> | 'a can of Pepsi, filled with Coca-cola |
| 04:22 | <gylt> | I notice a lot of folks in this channel use dd-wrt |
| 04:22 | <EugeneKay> | I don't; I use an i3-540 with 5x2TB drives and two NICs. ;-) |
| 04:23 | <gylt> | well, actually 2, but stilll... anyway, I'm surprised dd-wrt is more used than openwrt, considering dd-wrt's interesting history |
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| 04:29 | <gylt> | this is quite a relevation -- knowing about figlet. I always thought that it was just some weird fetish of some people to meticulously craft ascii logos for their leet hacker groups and whatnot. Wow, this changes things quite a lot, heh |
| 04:30 | <EugeneKay> | No, but using them is a fetish. |
| 04:30 | <EugeneKay> | One which should be crushed with lemons. In a party. |
| 04:30 | <Zr40> | when life gives you lemons... |
| 04:31 | <XReaper> | gylt: dd-wrt has more support then open-wrt |
| 04:31 | <XReaper> | Plus, it is commercially backed |
| 04:32 | <gylt> | isn't tomato also commercially backed? some buffalo routers come with it iirc |
| 04:32 | <XReaper> | Yeah |
| 04:32 | <XReaper> | Tomato and DD-WRT are the good ones |
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| 04:32 | <XReaper> | Also, some people have made custom forks of dd-wrt |
| 04:32 | <gylt> | openwrt isn't? :P why did openwrt fal behind |
| 04:33 | <XReaper> | i have a CFE-rebranded WRT610Nv2 |
| 04:33 | <XReaper> | nehow better go to work... |
| 04:33 | <XReaper> | ::( |
| 04:33 | <XReaper> | and i wanted to 'play' around with my linode... |
| 04:33 | <gylt> | huh? |
| 04:34 | <gylt> | how does that tie into the situation. Your router and home.. and linode? |
| 04:34 | <gylt> | between putty and my linode, everything else is immaterial so long as I have a working internet connection. What fun stuff do you do that dd-wrt is of any important? |
| 04:34 | <gylt> | importance* |
| 04:35 | <gylt> | s/and/at your/. sorry :( |
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| 05:00 | <tusk> | Hi |
| 05:01 | <SnakeO> | hi |
| 05:02 | <SnakeO> | how are ya tusk |
| 05:02 | <SnakeO> | tuskamanutsk |
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| 05:08 | <Kyh_> | hmm |
| 05:08 | <Kyh_> | oop, nvm, fail ISP |
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| 06:33 | <Patel> | Hello Greetings!!! |
| 06:33 | <Patel> | Is anybody can help me? |
| 06:33 | <Kyh_> | !to Patel ask |
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| 06:33 | <Kyh_> | wat |
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| 06:33 | <Kyh_> | !ask |
| 06:33 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 06:33 | <Patel> | How to access Mysql without SSH? |
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| 06:35 | <Kyh_> | What do you mean? |
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| 06:35 | <Patel> | I mean i want to operate MySql from server... |
| 06:35 | <@akerl> | ? |
| 06:35 | <chesty> | i think Patel means from their desktop, not through ssh command line |
| 06:36 | <Kyh_> | operate? there's mysqladmin which you run locally.. |
| 06:36 | <LiquidAtom> | Patel: Do you mean access the mysql server externally. |
| 06:36 | <Kyh_> | ah |
| 06:36 | <Kyh_> | Isn't there that gui thing people use? |
| 06:36 | <LiquidAtom> | MySQL Admin or something like that (I think). |
| 06:36 | <Patel> | yes |
| 06:37 | <LiquidAtom> | MySQL Workbench |
| 06:37 | <Kyh_> | nah, there's some windows gui client thing that you can use, though it's recommended you use it over a ssh tunnel |
| 06:37 | <LiquidAtom> | http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html |
| 06:38 | <Kyh_> | yeah, that was it |
| 06:38 | <LiquidAtom> | It's got an EOL announcement as well :o |
| 06:38 | <Patel> | Currently I am logged in my Linode server....but I can't see any link or tab for Mysql... |
| 06:39 | <Kyh_> | uh, logged into your linode how? |
| 06:39 | <LiquidAtom> | Patel: I would seriously recommend heading over to the Linode Library. |
| 06:40 | <Patel> | Sorry? |
| 06:40 | <Patel> | Not getting |
| 06:40 | <Kyh_> | Patel: how are you logged in? via ssh? |
| 06:40 | <Patel> | no |
| 06:41 | <Patel> | I am logged in from browser |
| 06:42 | <chesty> | logged into what from browser? |
| 06:42 | <Kyh_> | OK, logged into what using your browser? Do you mean the linode dashboard? (That isn't logging into your linode, it's the dashboard that controls it, overall, not whats running on it) |
| 06:42 | <chesty> | ~first |
| 06:42 | <Patel> | yes |
| 06:42 | <Patel> | I am on my linode DashBoard |
| 06:42 | <Kyh_> | Patel: you can't control stuff running on your linode from there, that's just for doing things like rebooting it, etc. |
| 06:42 | <Patel> | ohh |
| 06:43 | <Kyh_> | It's not a control panel for your VPS, in the usual sense you're thinking of. If you want a control panel, you have to install one on your linode. |
| 06:43 | <Patel> | ok |
| 06:43 | <Patel> | got it.. |
| 06:44 | <Patel> | How to install control panel? |
| 06:45 | <Kyh_> | Someone else can answer this one :P |
| 06:45 | <@akerl> | apt-get install gui-all-the-things ? |
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| 06:57 | <Patel> | Thank you very much |
| 06:57 | <Patel> | For you help |
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| 07:32 | <prime> | hey |
| 07:33 | <prime> | what networks is linode's datacenter connected to? |
| 07:35 | <chesty> | there are 6 DCs |
| 07:36 | <hawk> | prime: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Network has some links and stuff |
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| 07:40 | <hawk> | (While no official list it should be correct in terms of linking to the appropriate parties.) |
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| 07:52 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Configure Name-based Virtual Hosts in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8653>; |
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| 08:34 | <BenOvermyer> | Morning folks |
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| 08:34 | <BenOvermyer> | Anyone from Linode itself here? |
| 08:35 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 08:35 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
| 08:36 | <BenOvermyer> | Keen. |
| 08:37 | <BenOvermyer> | Maybe I don't need a Linode staffer for this, though. If I import a 2GB .sql file into my Linode server, does that count against my traffic limit? |
| 08:38 | <DrJ> | BenOvermyer: no |
| 08:38 | <BenOvermyer> | Also keen. |
| 08:38 | <DrJ> | a few months ago all incoming traffic was made free |
| 08:38 | <BenOvermyer> | That's slick. |
| 08:38 | <BenOvermyer> | How do you guys use Linode? |
| 08:38 | <DrJ> | only outgoing traffic counts against quota |
| 08:38 | <DrJ> | you what what do we use it for? |
| 08:38 | <DrJ> | *you mean |
| 08:39 | <BenOvermyer> | Yeah. |
| 08:39 | <DrJ> | that would be a different answer from just about anyone |
| 08:39 | <BenOvermyer> | Haha, fair enough. I'm just curious, since we're a very new customer. |
| 08:40 | <DrJ> | I use mine to run websites, but mainly a police scanner stream site |
| 08:40 | <BenOvermyer> | Oh? Isn't streaming bandwidth-intensive? |
| 08:41 | <DrJ> | I have 400GB/month for my quota |
| 08:41 | <DrJ> | I usually use 300GB of it |
| 08:41 | <DrJ> | its just a 32Kbit audio stream |
| 08:41 | <DrJ> | one user listening 24/7 all month only uses 10GB (roughly) |
| 08:42 | <BenOvermyer> | hmm |
| 08:42 | <BenOvermyer> | We're using it to move our company's database and web servers into the cloud instead of our server room. |
| 08:42 | <DrJ> | cool |
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| 08:46 | <Kunda> | can i mod_redirect a url pointing to a .pdf file ? |
| 08:46 | <dwfreed> | Kunda: why wouldn't you be able to? |
| 08:47 | <Kunda> | just inquiring first |
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| 08:50 | <tusk> | Kunda: sure. easy |
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| 08:51 | <Kunda> | when migrating to Nginx from Apache is there a automagical way Nginx will honor pre-existing mod_redirects ? |
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| 09:02 | <purrdeta> | Kunda: not that I know of. |
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| 09:21 | <Gshock> | no, you have to configure nginx appropriately |
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| 09:53 | <squircle> | how would I go about getting the OS X terminal to communicate with a device over a usb -> serial adaptor? (or is there some third-party terminal emulator?) |
| 09:53 | <squircle> | also, good morning/afternoon/evening/night wonderful people of #linode <3 |
| 09:54 | <@heckman> | I think it assigns it to some device |
| 09:54 | <squircle> | it's /dev/ttyUSB0, but I don't know how to use it |
| 09:54 | <squircle> | how to "connect" per se |
| 09:54 | <@heckman> | Use screen? |
| 09:54 | <@heckman> | screen /dev/XXXX |
| 09:54 | <@heckman> | I think that works |
| 09:56 | <squircle> | it... seems like it should work. maybe i've got the wrong baud rate. |
| 09:57 | <staticsafe> | http://bugtracker.ispconfig.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=2157#comments - heh |
| 09:57 | <squircle> | ZyXel's english documentation is severely lacking, and my french isn't amazing |
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| 10:03 | <tank100> | can anybody recomend a CRM solution licensed GPL or BSD |
| 10:04 | <squircle> | tank100: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/foss-linux-crm-roundup, there's 14 there |
| 10:05 | <tank100> | thanx |
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| 10:06 | <CornishPasty> | squircle: that's amazing... Did you like... use Google or something? |
| 10:06 | <tank100> | personal experiences? often its hard to judge a book by its cover |
| 10:06 | <squircle> | CornishPasty: I know, right! It was so easy! |
| 10:06 | <CornishPasty> | s/easy/hard/ |
| 10:07 | <CornishPasty> | I've used SugarCRM before tank100 |
| 10:07 | <squircle> | damn, sarcasm fail. my bad. |
| 10:07 | <CornishPasty> | :D |
| 10:08 | <tank100> | what was your conclusion? |
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| 10:08 | <CornishPasty> | tank100: It was the only one I used, and it fit the purpose we needed it for |
| 10:09 | <CornishPasty> | Importing the data from their old system was an absolute bitch though |
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| 10:11 | <tank100> | :( |
| 10:11 | <praetorian> | evening |
| 10:11 | <CornishPasty> | tank100: Well, the import was fine, exporting was the problem... |
| 10:12 | <praetorian> | squircle: did you get the serial device working? |
| 10:12 | <squircle> | praetorian: kinda... (no, not at all). I think I have the wrong baud rate, or maybe I'm using a null modem when I shouldn't... |
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| 10:13 | <praetorian> | squircle: ahh ok. i think i used zterm last time i wanted to talk serial (console mode to a server). http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6888/zterm-x |
| 10:14 | <squircle> | praetorian: yeah, it's just crazy old and I should be able to make screen work somehow. thanks, though. (I think I'm just misusing a null modem cable) |
| 10:14 | <praetorian> | ok |
| 10:14 | <squircle> | :) |
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| 10:32 | <XReaper> | Mmm.... |
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| 10:42 | <Narasimha> | dear team, few minutes back I got a severity ticker.... |
| 10:42 | <Narasimha> | where my site got spam files init |
| 10:43 | <Narasimha> | automatically some directories are getting created |
| 10:43 | <Narasimha> | can someone help me to resolve it |
| 10:43 | <Narasimha> | ticket number: 889772 |
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| 10:49 | <Narasimha> | where my site got spam files in it, automatically some directories are getting created. can someone help me to resolve it? |
| 10:50 | <LiquidAtom> | Narasimha: If you've submitted a ticket, a member of staff will respond (by ticket) shorly. |
| 10:50 | <LiquidAtom> | s/shorly/shortly/ |
| 10:51 | <Narasimha> | ok |
| 10:51 | <Gshock> | Id be kind of surprised if they went as far as to fix whatever is insecure about your setup though. |
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| 10:52 | <LiquidAtom> | It may be likely that your installation has been compromised in some way/shape/form, so they'll simply tell you to re-image your Linode. |
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| 11:17 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Missing apxs2 / http pseudo steraming in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8645>; |
| 11:20 | <auraka> | morning |
| 11:20 | <Zr40> | hey auraka |
| 11:20 | <XReaper> | Need something fun to do on my linode |
| 11:20 | <Zr40> | XReaper: nethack |
| 11:20 | <XReaper> | Quick! Need suggestions! :P |
| 11:20 | <XReaper> | Zr40: Playing nethack on my linode would not be my idea of fun |
| 11:21 | <XReaper> | I do <3 the game |
| 11:21 | <XReaper> | but still |
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| 11:23 | <auraka> | XReaper: re-build it |
| 11:23 | <auraka> | hello Zr40 |
| 11:23 | <XReaper> | auraka: not my idea of fun |
| 11:24 | <XReaper> | its only been up for 2 weeks since my last rebuild |
| 11:24 | <XReaper> | :D |
| 11:24 | <Zr40> | XReaper: what _are_ your ideas of fun? |
| 11:24 | <XReaper> | Uhm... |
| 11:24 | <XReaper> | ssh on 443? |
| 11:24 | <XReaper> | lame... |
| 11:24 | <auraka> | XReaper: use your extra traffic to send large pings to rnowak's nodes....thats what I do |
| 11:24 | <XReaper> | Ha |
| 11:25 | <XReaper> | auraka: thats mean :P |
| 11:25 | <staticsafe> | XReaper: IRC server |
| 11:25 | <auraka> | no....means would be sending spoofer udp packets out as his node ip for dns amplification attacks |
| 11:26 | <XReaper> | staticsafe: there are enough irc server |
| 11:26 | <XReaper> | s |
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| 11:27 | <XReaper> | Actually... might link it into a small network i'm in |
| 11:27 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 11:27 | <staticsafe> | lol i was about to ask you to link to mine :3 |
| 11:28 | <staticsafe> | we could use a tokyo node :D |
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| 11:32 | <purrdeta> | meh, I have a useless IRC network. Its just for fun :P |
| 11:32 | <imMute> | tasaro: hey, got the message! (you sent me an email about overdue balance 4 times in a few minutes) it's all sorted out now :) |
| 11:32 | <XReaper> | staticsafe: i am in tokyo |
| 11:32 | <XReaper> | (my node) |
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| 11:33 | <@tasaro> | imMute: awesome, thanks. |
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| 11:34 | <XReaper> | time to write myself a PKGBUILD :D |
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| 11:37 | <purrdeta> | XReaper: good luck :P |
| 11:38 | <XReaper> | Would take me all of a minute |
| 11:38 | <XReaper> | once i find the templates... |
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| 11:49 | <Narasimha> | dear team, by mistake I deleted a folder with root. Is there any way to get it back? |
| 11:50 | <Narasimha> | based on drvies info? |
| 11:50 | <@caker> | restore it from your backups |
| 11:51 | <Narasimha> | I could not have any backups of it |
| 11:51 | <@caker> | :( |
| 11:51 | <Narasimha> | does it stores anywehere? |
| 11:51 | <Narasimha> | only one folder |
| 11:51 | <@caker> | Have you migrated or resized your Linode lately? |
| 11:51 | <Narasimha> | No... |
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| 11:52 | <Narasimha> | Can you please give me somehelp as that is the core of my system |
| 11:54 | <Narasimha> | Please help mw |
| 11:54 | <hawk> | Narasimha: With _luck_: pulling the plug, booting finnix and trying something like http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ could help |
| 11:54 | <@caker> | Narasimha: if you don't have backups, then you lost the filesystem structure. You may be able to find the data still using a tool such as ext3grep - http://code.google.com/p/ext3grep/ |
| 11:55 | <MaZ-> | note: dont shut down |
| 11:55 | <MaZ-> | or write anything to the disk :V |
| 11:55 | <hawk> | Would shutting down actually make any difference? |
| 11:55 | <hawk> | Writing to the disk clearly is a huge no-no... |
| 11:55 | <MaZ-> | depends if the shutdown process ends up writing stuff to disk |
| 11:56 | <@caker> | I'd pull the plug (issue a shut down job or disable Lassie, and immediately issue a Lish destroy) |
| 11:56 | <Narasimha> | IN fact, I came to know about that through reboot only..after reboot...I could not find it :( |
| 11:56 | <Narasimha> | does it help? |
| 11:57 | <EugeneKay> | In a nutshell, you're boned. |
| 11:57 | <hawk> | Did you store all your mission critical files in /tmp ? :P |
| 11:57 | <EugeneKay> | "If your data isn't backed up off-site, you didn't really want it." |
| 11:57 | <Narasimha> | I am sorry, not :( |
| 11:58 | <EugeneKay> | Sorry, but a reboot means that your chances are essentially nil. |
| 11:58 | <EugeneKay> | (lots of disk I/O over the journal) |
| 11:59 | <MaZ-> | btw hawk im guessing even the act of flushing logs to disk on shutdown could be enough to screw up recovery chances |
| 12:00 | <EugeneKay> | Yup. |
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| 12:00 | <hawk> | MaZ-: Quite possibly. I wasn't strict enough about my interpretation of "shutting down". |
| 12:01 | <Narasimha> | If I try with above tools, will it help? |
| 12:01 | <MaZ-> | Narasimha: after rebooting? the chances are pretty much zero |
| 12:01 | <hawk> | Narasimha: Probably not, I suppose you could try anyway |
| 12:01 | <MaZ-> | but i mean... no harm trying |
| 12:01 | <MaZ-> | did you like... delete /boot or something |
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| 12:02 | <Narasimha> | OK, thanks a lot |
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| 12:05 | <hawk> | MaZ-: Well, I sort of hope that interpretation is correct. Sounds like something that would most likely be easily replacable. |
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| 12:06 | <BP{k}> | ( Vliegendehu) Who do I need to e-mail to tell them they broke the slackware usbboot.img? |
| 12:06 | <BP{k}> | bah |
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| 12:19 | <nicinabox> | apache seems to become unresponsive to new requests about once a day on our servers. any reasons for this? |
| 12:19 | <EugeneKay> | What day is 12.04 releasing "finaL" isos? |
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| 12:21 | <MaZ-> | nicinabox: could be hitting maxclients, or your machine could be spawning too many apache processes to serve requests, running out of ram and starts paging until the machine catches up |
| 12:21 | <MaZ-> | 2 of many many reasons it could become unresponsive :V |
| 12:21 | <EugeneKay> | DOn't forget gardwn gnomes. |
| 12:21 | <EugeneKay> | They're always an issue. |
| 12:22 | <MaZ-> | (or the OOM killer is nuking your apache processes ¬_¬) |
| 12:23 | <nicinabox> | MaZ-: thanks, I'll check there |
| 12:23 | <MaZ-> | nicinabox: are you running mod_php or something? |
| 12:23 | <MaZ-> | because that will spawn a ~30mb min usage process for each concurrent request |
| 12:24 | <MaZ-> | with apache default settings of 150? iirc maxclients, thats a possible ram usage of 4.5GB |
| 12:24 | <MaZ-> | so unless you have a large linode... :> |
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| 12:25 | <nicinabox> | MaZ-: yikes! yes, using mod_php |
| 12:26 | <MaZ-> | right so mod_php runs the PHP interpreter inside each apache process |
| 12:26 | <MaZ-> | which boosts their memory usage pretty massively |
| 12:27 | <linbot> | New news from forums: I need help with the configuration of my magento in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8657>; |
| 12:28 | <nicinabox> | MaZ-: is overall memory usage a useful indicator? (it seems normal) |
| 12:30 | <MaZ-> | it'll be normal right up until the point you get a load of requests at once, then the machine will crap itself :p |
| 12:30 | <MaZ-> | but bear in mind this is only 1 reason it might happen |
| 12:31 | <MaZ-> | the other "way" of running php is to do it via fastcgi, so you use something like php-fpm to control PHP processes (so you can set a min / max and php-fpm will control the number of processes which are spawned) and then set apache to use it via fastcgi |
| 12:31 | <MaZ-> | but it's a bit of a ballache to setup with apache at least |
| 12:31 | <MaZ-> | benefit is it gives you more control over apache and php memory usage |
| 12:31 | <XReaper> | on nginx its awesome |
| 12:31 | <MaZ-> | ^ |
| 12:32 | <XReaper> | (php-fpm) |
| 12:32 | <MaZ-> | its like a 5 line setup on nginx |
| 12:32 | <MaZ-> | but then you lose .htaccess and have to rewrite your httpd config :) |
| 12:32 | <nicinabox> | i wish we were using nginx, but alas |
| 12:33 | <MaZ-> | yeah |
| 12:34 | <MaZ-> | well if that IS whats causing your responsiveness issues, you should have a look at http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking the apache section |
| 12:34 | <nicinabox> | Ahh, i am hitting max clients. should I bump it up? |
| 12:34 | <@caker> | nooooo |
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| 12:35 | <@caker> | nicinabox: Turn down MaxClients, and disable KeepAlives |
| 12:35 | <nicinabox> | explain it like i'm 5 |
| 12:35 | <@caker> | I'd go for like 15-20, but turn OFF KeepAlives |
| 12:36 | <nicinabox> | MaxClients currently at 19. Should I go lower? |
| 12:36 | <@caker> | is 19 between 15 and 20? |
| 12:36 | <nicinabox> | it is |
| 12:37 | <@caker> | did you disable keepalives yet? :) |
| 12:37 | <nicinabox> | i did |
| 12:37 | <@caker> | ok - you'll be fine! |
| 12:37 | <@caker> | if that doesn't solve the problem, then it's something else |
| 12:37 | <nicinabox> | okay! I'll keep an eye on it |
| 12:38 | <nicinabox> | you guys are the best |
| 12:39 | <MaZ-> | cakif you hit maxclients but the server still has enough memory that it doesn't fall over, do you get a 503 or somesuch? |
| 12:39 | <MaZ-> | er |
| 12:39 | <@caker> | requests beyond MaxClients queue |
| 12:41 | <MaZ-> | nicinabox: its basically a balancing act - you want to have your maxclients high enough so that everyone coming to your site can load the page without being queued, but you want it low enough to never spawn enough apache processes to cause an OOM on the linode |
| 12:41 | <nicinabox> | ahh okay |
| 12:42 | <MaZ-> | and if you're unable to get your maxclients high enough with the amount of memory you have on the linode, you either need a larger linode or do some magic with load balancers and multiple linodes |
| 12:42 | <MaZ-> | by turning off keepalives you basically state that each http request closes as soon as it's complete, which leaves more apache processes free to handle new requests |
| 12:42 | <MaZ-> | (can you tell im bored at work and waiting for 6pm?) |
| 12:43 | <nicinabox> | i'm glad you're bored at work :P |
| 12:43 | <@caker> | KeepAlives off on low memory rigs is good stuff |
| 12:43 | <nicinabox> | TIL |
| 12:43 | <nicinabox> | should i tweak the mpm bits? |
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| 12:44 | <nicinabox> | they're default |
| 12:44 | <@caker> | if you did those two things (maxclients / keepalives off), you're good. move on. |
| 12:44 | <nicinabox> | wonderful |
| 12:44 | <Evocore> | With openssl, how do I find the fully qualified domain name on linode? |
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| 12:56 | <hawk> | Evocore: What exactly are you trying to find? |
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| 13:11 | <dzho> | just a random guess, but it looks like he's trying to find the FQDN |
| 13:11 | <linbot> | New news from blog: api_spec() <http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/api_spec/>; |
| 13:14 | <hawk> | dzho: Really? |
| 13:15 | <dzho> | of what, I don't know |
| 13:16 | <dzho> | Evocore: what are you trying to do? |
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| 13:21 | <wrg> | hi |
| 13:21 | <wrg> | admim here ? |
| 13:21 | <wrg> | linode admin here ? |
| 13:21 | <squircle> | !ops |
| 13:21 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
| 13:21 | <wrg> | admin |
| 13:21 | <wrg> | no 1 ? |
| 13:21 | <retro|blah> | !to wrg ask |
| 13:21 | <retro|blah> | heh |
| 13:21 | <retro|blah> | !ask |
| 13:21 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 13:21 | <squircle> | !justask |
| 13:22 | <squircle> | who deleted my factoid :( |
| 13:22 | <wrg> | how much for vps ? |
| 13:22 | <@caker> | https://manager.linode.com/signup/#plans |
| 13:22 | <wrg> | where ip plan ? |
| 13:22 | <wrg> | no ip ? |
| 13:23 | <@caker> | !ips |
| 13:23 | <linbot> | Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1/month, and require technical justification. With IPv6 enabled each Linode is assigned one IPv6 address, and pools of 4,096 shareable IPv6 addresses can be requested at no charge. |
| 13:23 | <wrg> | got discount if 1 block 255 ? |
| 13:23 | <@caker> | nope |
| 13:23 | <wrg> | is expansive |
| 13:23 | <wrg> | :( |
| 13:23 | <@caker> | welcome to reality |
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| 13:27 | <wrg> | !uptime |
| 13:27 | <linbot> | wrg: I have been running for 31 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 16 minutes, and 20 seconds. |
| 13:27 | <wrg> | !price |
| 13:27 | <hawk> | that's a lot of running |
| 13:27 | <Daevien> | caker: are you being mean again and not giving spammers hundreds of IPs so they can make link farms that dont' really help them? |
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| 13:27 | <Daevien> | caker: if so, keep up the good work :) |
| 13:28 | <squircle> | linbot o/ |
| 13:28 | <linbot> | \o squircle |
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| 13:29 | <wrg> | !offer |
| 13:30 | <wrg> | !promo |
| 13:30 | <@heckman> | wrg: what are you looking for? |
| 13:30 | <wrg> | any promotion package |
| 13:30 | <@heckman> | There are no active promotions right now. Unless you had caught us at a conference. |
| 13:30 | <wrg> | got any nice package intro ? |
| 13:30 | <wrg> | i`m newbie |
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| 13:42 | <squircle> | if I receive one more bounce from a provider about a full abuse mailbox... |
| 13:42 | <squircle> | why don't ISPs check these things?! |
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| 13:44 | <Consdale> | wrg: in that price is excellent service, servers and everything else! 300 days + uptime, not had a single failure because of Linode. |
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| 13:51 | <squircle> | linbot: ipinfo 188.138.40.166 |
| 13:51 | <linbot> | squircle: IP: 188.138.40.166; rDNS: loft4826.serverloft.eu; ASN adv net: 188.138.0.0/17; ASN: AS8972; ASN owner: intergenia AG; Abuse contact(s): abuse@plusserver.de; Country: Germany; Domains: 5; http://revip.info/ipinfo/188.138.40.166 |
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| 13:58 | <squircle> | hah... "sshd[4243]: Invalid user harrypotter from 31.31.203.164" |
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| 13:59 | <forcelfow> | hello! |
| 13:59 | <forcelfow> | i'm doing ajax request against my django app deployed with mod_wsgi behind nginx serving assets |
| 13:59 | <forcelfow> | it's a fairly large request (1000s of characters), but it takes about 3 minutes to hit the server |
| 13:59 | <forcelfow> | it seems to scale with the amount of data (i.e., a smaller request takes less time) |
| 13:59 | <forcelfow> | this still seems like an incredible amount of time for a request to take |
| 13:59 | <forcelfow> | any ideas about how i should debug this? |
| 14:00 | <forcelfow> | i'm on a linode 1536 |
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| 14:01 | <rnowak> | user firebug, nginx's access logs, apache's access logs, and any logs that your application (server) is emitting |
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| 14:04 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Postfix: I would like to duplicate all incoming emails in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8610>; |
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| 14:09 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Configure Name-based Virtual Hosts in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8653>; |
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| 14:26 | <NewbieNewb> | I don't suppose there's any way to do hourly billing with Linode? I hate adding a node for $xx a month and then deleting, getting credited $yy when I need to just test something on a fresh node. |
| 14:26 | <mwalling> | NewbieNewb: daily billing |
| 14:29 | <NewbieNewb> | Hmm, I can't find anything about that |
| 14:30 | <Zr40> | NewbieNewb: you'll be charged for the entire month (or remainder for it if you created a Linode after the first day of the month), but when you delete a Linode you get refunded for the remaining time |
| 14:31 | <NewbieNewb> | I hate adding a node for $xx a month and then deleting, getting credited $yy when I need to just test something on a fresh node. |
| 14:31 | <npmr> | use vagrant instead? |
| 14:31 | <Zr40> | oh, I missed that. I should pay more attention. :) |
| 14:33 | <linbot> | New news from blog: DNS AXFR ACLs and IPv6 masters <http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/dns-axfr-acls-and-ipv6-slaves/>; |
| 14:33 | <NewbieNewb> | Oh well |
| 14:33 | <@caker> | make that http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/dns-axfr-acls-and-ipv6-masters/ |
| 14:33 | <NewbieNewb> | Linode can add it to the "would be nice to have wishlist" :) |
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| 14:34 | <NewbieNewb> | most things I can do on ec2 - this one thing though... |
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| 14:38 | <linbot> | New news from blog: DNS AXFR ACLs and IPv6 masters <http://blog.linode.com/2012/04/04/dns-axfr-acls-and-ipv6-masters/>; |
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| 14:40 | <Nivex> | YESSSSS!!!! |
| 14:40 | <mwalling> | NewbieNewb: $xx - $yy == 1/(days in month) * (monthly plan cost) |
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| 14:43 | <mwalling> | also, $yy/$xx == (days in month - 1)/(days in month) (i think) |
| 14:43 | <@heckman> | Nivex: you're welcome. :) |
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| 14:43 | <Zr40> | caker: could you explain the bit about api_spec() where you wrote about dynamically implementing the API? It doesn't seem useful at all for that purpose; you still need to be able to identify the methods you need -- unless you suggest randomly calling methods |
| 14:45 | <Nivex> | heckman: $BEVERAGE to you sir! |
| 14:47 | <@caker> | Zr40: a human still needs to know what method it wants to call --- but the tool or binding or whatever doesn't need to have all the methods and params hardcoded. Not sure what you're asking me |
| 14:47 | <@caker> | Zr40: have you implemented a binding or tool against the API? It's painful because you need to dupe all the methods and stuff in the binding/tool |
| 14:48 | <vodka> | is there any way to automate setting the PTR for a linode's ipv4 adress? |
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| 14:48 | <@heckman> | vodka: find a cheap human :P |
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| 14:49 | <vodka> | hah ;p |
| 14:49 | <@caker> | now it can be like: onStartupping() { load spec from URL }, onHumanTellingMeToRunSomething() { does the method they want exist in the spec? OK - lemme now check the params they gave me against the spec .. OK, now lemme actually make the API call and make sure it doesn't error with one of the errors in the spec} .. etc |
| 14:49 | <JoeSa> | My website [hosted via Linode] is displaying an old page to users who viewed the website before I switched it to Linode. Anyone know how I can resolve this weird caching issue for the users? [It's causing mass confusion amongst them] |
| 14:49 | <rnowak> | startupping all the things |
| 14:50 | <rnowak> | JoeSa: mass confusion? |
| 14:50 | <@caker> | JoeSa: they or their ISP still have the old DNS entry pointing to old hosting, perhaps? if that's the case - gotta wait out the TTL. Get them to do a dns lookup and provide you with the result to check |
| 14:50 | <rnowak> | like, screaming, running around ripping hair out? |
| 14:50 | <JoeSa> | mowak: Exactly like that :L |
| 14:50 | <Nivex> | ruh roh: "• The AXFR IP 'any' appears to be an invalid IP address." |
| 14:50 | <Zr40> | caker: Right. I see it's useful for that purpose. I was thinking it was directed at the direct user of the API |
| 14:50 | <rnowak> | !to JoeSa mowak |
| 14:50 | <rnowak> | someone removed !to? oh well, it was quite useful |
| 14:50 | <@caker> | Nivex: looking |
| 14:51 | <JoeSa> | caker:I've waited several hours now - I assume the TTL would have passed by now. I'm one of the users it's screwing up for, I can do a DNS lookup if you want |
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| 14:51 | <@caker> | don't assume - do you know what the TTL was *before* you switched it to Linode? |
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| 14:52 | <NewbieNewb> | Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think about this |
| 14:52 | <vodka> | heckman: so setting up a nameserver and such won't work the way it does for ipv6? |
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| 14:52 | <JoeSa> | caker: It was hosted by GoDaddy's one-page-hosting *shudders* |
| 14:52 | <@heckman> | Nivex: PM? |
| 14:52 | <@caker> | JoeSa: I'm would suspect their TTL was at least 24 hours ... |
| 14:52 | <@caker> | s/I'm/I/ |
| 14:52 | <@heckman> | vodka: not sue what you mean |
| 14:52 | <vodka> | as in this post: http://forum.linode.com/archive/o_t/t_4273/dns_manager_ptr_record_support.html |
| 14:52 | <JoeSa> | caker: Ok, so pretty much after that people should stop seeing the wrong version? Would you mind explaining TTL to me? I always seem to run into weird caching things like this |
| 14:52 | <NewbieNewb> | I set up a VPS at another host, installed Apache, and was getting 23-25 ms time per requests. On Linode I'm getting 79-92 ms |
| 14:53 | <NewbieNewb> | same setup, clean centos 6.x apache only install, load an html file that says "Hello!" |
| 14:53 | <@caker> | NewbieNewb: making a single request, or using ab or what? |
| 14:53 | <@caker> | NewbieNewb: this is total time - including network? We don't control the Internets :( |
| 14:53 | <NewbieNewb> | using ab, 10,000 requests, 10 concurrent |
| 14:54 | <@heckman> | vodka: still not sure I follow |
| 14:54 | <@caker> | NewbieNewb: ping difference between the two? |
| 14:54 | <NewbieNewb> | that's what i'm trying to figure out. Their network was New York, I'm using Dallas linode |
| 14:54 | <NewbieNewb> | ok |
| 14:54 | <@caker> | well there you go |
| 14:54 | <@caker> | that's 40-50ms right there |
| 14:54 | <@caker> | depending on where you are, of course |
| 14:55 | <vodka> | heckman, might be me misunderstanding stuff… the way I understand that forum post is that they set up nsd to serve <myipv6address>.ip6.arpa |
| 14:55 | <@heckman> | vodka: this allows our name servers to AXFR from yours *over* IPv4 |
| 14:55 | <@heckman> | er...IPv6 |
| 14:55 | <@heckman> | You could only do it via IPv4 before |
| 14:56 | <NewbieNewb> | OK, I'll try differnt center |
| 14:56 | <NewbieNewb> | data center |
| 14:56 | <rnowak> | !speedtest NewbieNewb |
| 14:56 | <linbot> | http://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 14:56 | <@caker> | NewbieNewb: if you're comparing against something in New York, then use our Newark DC to reduce geographic difference as much as possible |
| 14:56 | <NewbieNewb> | OK |
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| 14:57 | <Ecksley> | My php.ini file allows for 'upload_max_filesize = 10M' and 'post_max_size = 20M', my folder permissions are 777, but I can't seem to upload a small PDF on my Drupal site. The progress wheel spins endlessly. I set up the server myself so I am wondering if I did something wrong. I should say I'm running nginx. Can you think of anything obvious I could investigate? Thanks for any help. |
| 14:57 | <NewbieNewb> | I'll have to remove the linode and create a brand new one, right? |
| 14:57 | <vodka> | heckman: I am not talking about the blog post, but the forum post I linked - they mention PTR records and reverse dns for ipv6. Am I just misreading that post completely? |
| 14:57 | <@caker> | that's fastest -- or you can open a ticket, we stage a migration, you press the button, and your existing Linode and its bits are moved - but that may take some time to transfer across the tubes |
| 14:58 | <@heckman> | They are talking about their HE IPv6 tunnel I think |
| 14:58 | <JoeSa> | caker: Is there any way to reset the TTL my browser uses without clearing the whole cache? [Google Chrome] |
| 14:58 | <@heckman> | We aren't delegating IPv6 RDNS. |
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| 14:59 | <@caker> | JoeSa: it's not your TTL, it's the DNS servers your computer is using (your ISPs?). You have two options: Switch your computer to use resolvers that don't have the stale cached version -- or edit your computer's /etc/hosts file and hardcode an entry |
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| 14:59 | <@caker> | or wait. |
| 14:59 | <vodka> | heckman: ok :) thank you for the explanation :) |
| 15:00 | <@caker> | but, I'd make sure this is actually what's going on. Ask someone who is getting the old page to do a dns lookupping and give you the result. If the result is the old IP then it's confirmed. |
| 15:00 | <JoeSa> | caker: Oh right, that's the way it works. I always wondered why my other computer never has the cache problems - so can't I reset the TTL on this computer without manually adding a TTL entry? |
| 15:00 | <JoeSa> | caker: hosts entry* |
| 15:00 | <@caker> | heh |
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| 15:00 | <@caker> | your local computer might be caching it too .. |
| 15:00 | <@caker> | what OS? |
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| 15:00 | <JoeSa> | Mac OS X Lion |
| 15:01 | <@caker> | sudo dscacheutil -flushcache <-- I think? |
| 15:01 | <@caker> | maybe sudo isn't required |
| 15:01 | <JoeSa> | sudo can't hurt :P |
| 15:01 | <Evocore> | I tried generating a csr with openssl for an ssl cert, and I specified the -out and -key locations, but each of those files starts with Begin Certificate and Begin RSA Private Key. The SSL company just told me that the file should have Begin Certificate Signing Request. Did I do something wrong? |
| 15:01 | <Evocore> | I used sudo openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.pem -keyout /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.key |
| 15:02 | <JoeSa> | caker: After using that, Chrome is still displaying the old version. Is this Chrome's cachine, or the ISP cachine or something else? I hate caching sometimes :L |
| 15:03 | <@caker> | could be the browser to. reboot all things |
| 15:03 | <@caker> | +o |
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| 15:03 | <NewbieNewb> | Woot! |
| 15:03 | <NewbieNewb> | 18-21 ms! |
| 15:05 | <JoeSa> | caker: It's still doing it after a reboot. I guess waiting 24 hours should fix it up fine though, I have no real problem with that for the time being. Can assets also have TTLs then? because I've had multiple caching issues with resources which are kinda similar to this in the past |
| 15:06 | <NewbieNewb> | I neevr realized how much location matters. But I guess it makes sense :) |
| 15:08 | <@caker> | 15:00 <@caker> but, I'd make sure this is actually what's going on. Ask someone who is getting the old page to do a dns lookupping and give you the result. If the result is the old IP then it's confirmed. |
| 15:08 | * | Katana flips rnowak's table |
| 15:08 | <rnowak> | rude |
| 15:08 | <staticsafe> | !flip |
| 15:08 | <linbot> | （╯°□°）╯彡/(.□ . \) |
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| 15:08 | <Katana> | ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(;￣◇￣)┘ |
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| 15:09 | <JoeSa> | caker: How can I do the lookup? [I'm affected by the problem myself] |
| 15:10 | <hawk> | dig is nice |
| 15:10 | <JoeSa> | dig gets the correct IP address though |
| 15:10 | <Evocore> | Does anyone know is that the wrong way to generate a ssl cert, I followed the linode library? |
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| 15:12 | * | squircle fixes rnowak's table |
| 15:12 | <rnowak> | Evocore: change the extension to .csr and see what happens |
| 15:12 | <squircle> | !fixtable |
| 15:12 | <linbot> | ┳━┳ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) |
| 15:12 | <rnowak> | squircle: thanks! |
| 15:12 | <squircle> | anytime! |
| 15:12 | <Evocore> | cp apache.pem apache.csr? |
| 15:12 | <rnowak> | Evocore: generate a new one, specifying .csr as the extension for the csr |
| 15:13 | <Evocore> | sure thing |
| 15:13 | <rnowak> | (not sure if that's all there's to your issue, but openssl does change how it works depending on specified endings) |
| 15:13 | <JoeSa> | caker: So what do I do if 'dig' gets the correct IP, but even with using a browser I haven't used before, the wrong page is displayed? |
| 15:14 | <Ecksley> | Should I be mindful of anything other than 'upload_max_filesize' and 'post_max_size' if my site if having trouble upload a 3mb file? |
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| 15:14 | <@heckman> | JoeSa: /etc/hosts ? |
| 15:14 | <@heckman> | Also, are you digging on the same box you are viewing the page from? |
| 15:14 | <Katana> | JoeSa: you are doing both dig and chrome views from the same system, |
| 15:14 | <Katana> | close chrome, reopen it. |
| 15:14 | <Katana> | it maintains a local dns cache. |
| 15:15 | <JoeSa> | heckman: Katana: Doing everything from the same system. Didn't restart Chrome, but I opened and closed and re-opened Firefox and got the same results. |
| 15:15 | <JoeSa> | Katana: Oh, so I need to restart _every_ web browser? |
| 15:15 | <Evocore> | rnowak: still says Begin Certificate at the top |
| 15:15 | <Katana> | no, just chrome |
| 15:15 | <Katana> | or try opening up: chrome://net-internals/#dns |
| 15:15 | <rnowak> | Evocore: paste the command you run again |
| 15:15 | <Katana> | make sure you're on the dns tab, then click "clear host cache" button |
| 15:16 | <Evocore> | sudo openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.csr -keyout /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.key |
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| 15:17 | <Katana> | JoeSa: if dig is giving you the right ip though, that should mean that it's a dns caching issue with something system level or application level, anyways |
| 15:17 | <rnowak> | Evocore: remove -x509 |
| 15:17 | <JoeSa> | Katana: Pressed the button - Chrome has the same result. |
| 15:17 | <Katana> | windows or *nix system btw |
| 15:17 | <JoeSa> | Katana: Right. So it's a problem somewhere on my system. BLEH, I have TTL. I guess restarting everything should fix it up fine? |
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| 15:18 | <@heckman> | Have you checked the network tab of Chrome to see where it's connecting to? |
| 15:18 | <JoeSa> | Katana: hate* |
| 15:18 | <Katana> | JoeSa: ...windows or *nix system? |
| 15:18 | <Evocore> | rnowak: it now says begin certificate request, looks like it might work |
| 15:18 | <JoeSa> | Katana: I'm on OS X |
| 15:18 | <rnowak> | Evocore: that's what it is supposed to say |
| 15:18 | <Evocore> | its strange the differences between the 2 docs |
| 15:18 | <JoeSa> | heckman: It does that? I'll take a look |
| 15:18 | <rnowak> | Evocore: huh? |
| 15:18 | <Evocore> | i originally followed the subjectaltname docs |
| 15:18 | <Evocore> | which had the -x509 |
| 15:18 | <@heckman> | JoeSa: there's some network extra info tab somewhere, yeah. I forget where it hides. |
| 15:18 | <rnowak> | Evocore: `man req` |
| 15:19 | <Katana> | heckman: settings button on the lower left maybe |
| 15:19 | <rnowak> | Evocore: adding -x509 signs the certificate, so you create a self-signed cert instead of a request |
| 15:19 | <JoeSa> | heckman: It's the same IP that 'dig' gets me - I think that's the right IP, lemme just double check |
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| 15:19 | <Evocore> | ahhh |
| 15:19 | <Evocore> | well thank you very much for your time, i appreciate it |
| 15:19 | <rnowak> | Evocore: man pages are there for a reason |
| 15:20 | <Evocore> | first time working with certs and running man |
| 15:20 | <JoeSa> | heckman: caker: My bad, 'dig' gets me the WRONG IP [and hence Chrome is using the wrong IP] |
| 15:20 | <@heckman> | And now you know. :) |
| 15:21 | <JoeSa> | So it's an ISP thing? |
| 15:21 | <@heckman> | ISP resolver or cache on local PC |
| 15:21 | <JoeSa> | heckman: Methinks cache, because my PC [sitting right next to this Mac] displays the page perfeclt.y |
| 15:21 | <JoeSa> | perfectly* |
| 15:21 | <hawk> | JoeSa: The dig output will include which server you got that answer from |
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| 15:22 | <JoeSa> | hawk: It says 192.168.0.1, which methinks is the main router [which both are using] |
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| 16:01 | <squircle> | AXFR ACLs?! yay! |
| 16:01 | <squircle> | (I know I'm late) |
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| 16:03 | <hugo> | Hi. I just signup for a vps, and I'm in the step of choosing a datacenter. Is there any addresses I could ping to check latency, from my place? |
| 16:03 | <hugo> | I mean one per datacenter |
| 16:04 | <retro|blah> | !speedtest |
| 16:04 | <linbot> | http://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 16:04 | <retro|blah> | Use that |
| 16:05 | <hugo> | Great. Thanks! |
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| 16:06 | <quist> | Can I pay for just an increase in storage space? How much is it per gb? I looked on the website, but couldn't find anything. |
| 16:06 | <squircle> | !extras |
| 16:06 | <linbot> | Available extras: Disk: $ 1 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IPv4 addresses: $ 1 per address/month. To add extras, visit the Extras tab on a Linode. |
| 16:06 | <quist> | thanks dude |
| 16:06 | <squircle> | it's generally worth just upgrading the linode, though |
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| 16:14 | <Ecksley> | Can anyone help me with a file upload issue I am having - possible related to Nginx config, and Drupal? |
| 16:14 | <Consdale> | !ask |
| 16:14 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 16:14 | <Ecksley> | Is that a Don't ask or and ASK! |
| 16:15 | <squircle> | well, read the bot's factoid! ;) |
| 16:15 | <Consdale> | Feel free to ask. :) |
| 16:17 | <Ecksley> | Basically, when I attempt to upload a file of say 3MB the wheel spins endlessly. My PHP ini appear to be okay? upload_max_filesize = 10M, post_max_size = 20M. File permission are 777 on destination folder. I'm wondering if there is something Nginx related I should do differently? And thank you. I really do appreciate you time and help. |
| 16:19 | <Ecksley> | I should say that I'm sort of lightweight when it comes to the server stuff. |
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| 16:20 | <rnowak> | do smaller uploads go through fine? |
| 16:21 | <Ecksley> | rnowalk: Yes |
| 16:22 | <rnowak> | are you giving it enough time to upload the file? what's your upload like? |
| 16:22 | <Ecksley> | After letting the wheel spin for a ver long time and trying to save the node I received the following nginx promt: 413 Request Entity Too Large. The file is a 3.3MB PDF. |
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| 16:23 | <rnowak> | ok, so change client_max_body_size in nginx to something a bit larger than 20MB |
| 16:24 | <Ecksley> | Max_execution_time was 30. I changes it to 0 which I understand is unlimited? |
| 16:24 | <rnowak> | nginx buffers the upload, your script isn't hit until it is done |
| 16:24 | <rnowak> | ok, so change client_max_body_size in nginx to something a bit larger than 20MB |
| 16:24 | <rnowak> | ^doeet |
| 16:25 | <Ecksley> | Where is this? nginx.conf? |
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| 16:25 | <rnowak> | http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpCoreModule#client_max_body_size |
| 16:25 | <Evocore> | I ran the basic security stack script and it setup the sudoers and wheel user groups. It also placed my user account into sshusers and wheel. Im trying to sftp now and do not have permissions to do anything because of this. What is a standard secure setup for your main user account. Should I edit /etc/sudoers and give it all permissions, or should I create a new user group that has permissions? |
| 16:25 | <rnowak> | Ecksley: http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpCoreModule#client_max_body_size |
| 16:26 | <io_> | hi i need to create an sftp user with access to his own home directory |
| 16:26 | <rnowak> | !library sftp jail io_ |
| 16:26 | <linbot> | rnowak: 1. Limiting Access with SFTP Jails on Debian and Ubuntu - http://library.linode.com/security/sftp-jails | 2. Transfer Files with Filezilla on Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-filezilla-ubuntu-9.10 | 3. Transfer Files with Cyberduck on Mac OS X - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-cyberduck |
| 16:26 | <io_> | actually i did it once but i forgot where the doco is |
| 16:27 | <io_> | rnowak: i ve already setuo sfto jails |
| 16:27 | <rnowak> | ok? |
| 16:27 | <io_> | so i just add a user and that s it? |
| 16:28 | <io_> | do i need it to be part of a specific group? |
| 16:28 | <rnowak> | eh? read the above article |
| 16:28 | <io_> | ok add to the filetrasnfer group |
| 16:28 | <io_> | let s try |
| 16:30 | <Evocore> | rnowak: It looks like this could be useful for my needs aswell. Should it work similar but instead of jailing them I change the public_html folders to be owned by my user and the group? |
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| 16:31 | <rnowak> | Evocore: If the account is for yourself, just add it to sudoers and be done with it |
| 16:32 | <Evocore> | should the www/... be owned by root:root? or patrick:(some group that apache can write with)? |
| 16:33 | <rnowak> | apache should not be able to write to your document root |
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| 16:33 | <Evocore> | ah right, so just the logs/ and cache/ folder |
| 16:34 | <rnowak> | as long as you're not hoping to be able to use those logs for auditing purposes |
| 16:34 | <rnowak> | and depending on what is in the cache directory, you might open up for an attack as well |
| 16:35 | <Evocore> | is root:root typically the standard setup for the /srv/www folders? |
| 16:36 | <rnowak> | it can be |
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| 16:37 | <Ecksley> | rnowak: You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for your help. That did it. Much appreciated!!! |
| 16:38 | <@heckman> | pretty sure he's a mohawk |
| 16:38 | <mwalling> | heckman: thats a river |
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| 16:39 | <rnowak> | heckman: saw rnowalk? pretty new one |
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| 17:17 | <Consdale> | Graphics temperature - 106C ouch |
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| 17:42 | <io_> | hallo i am getting this error 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 any idea? |
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| 17:46 | <Kyhwana> | io_: need more context |
| 17:56 | <Katana> | rnowalc |
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| 18:09 | <tharkun> | Who can i bug to see if my CC billing was accepted? |
| 18:12 | <@caker> | tharkun: Account tab |
| 18:12 | <io_> | Kyhwana: thanks i ve found out, it was bind-address in my.cnf |
| 18:13 | <tharkun> | caker: where do i get that? |
| 18:15 | <@caker> | tharkun: https://manager.linode.com/account |
| 18:16 | <tharkun> | caker: ok login in thanks and sorry for the inconviniences |
| 18:16 | <@caker> | no worries - glad I could help |
| 18:19 | <tharkun> | Is there a way to set up a secondary email address to recieve billing information? |
| 18:19 | <@caker> | tharkun: Account tab -> Edit Contact Information .. the email address there gets invoices and payments |
| 18:19 | <@caker> | or you could add another user (Users & Permissions) and they'll get invoices and such if they're an unrestricted user. |
| 18:19 | <@caker> | (or have that grant, I think) |
| 18:20 | <tharkun> | caker: ok. I'll explore the aditional user part |
| 18:20 | <@caker> | really it's easiest to just add it to the contact info .. but do as you wish! :) |
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| 18:22 | <Eman_> | caker do you have any plans to do any more server selloffs? |
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| 18:23 | <@caker> | Eman: who knows. it's a lot of effort. can't really say |
| 18:24 | <Eman> | ok |
| 18:24 | <Eman> | thanks |
| 18:25 | <tharkun> | caker: Isue totally fixed. Next drink on the beach is to your health. Cheers |
| 18:26 | <@caker> | cheers! |
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| 18:31 | <bdfoster> | heyoh |
| 18:31 | <linbot> | hello |
| 18:33 | <bdfoster> | is the private network supposed to be slower than the connection to the internet? |
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| 18:34 | <bdfoster> | i.e. i grabbed a test file on linode one, at 7mbps, and then grabbed the same file from linode 2 off of linode 1 and it's about 50 percent slower |
| 18:34 | <@caker> | We rate limit outbound to 50Mbps at the NIC level - inbound is not limited. If you need higher bps file a ticket |
| 18:34 | <bdfoster> | ah |
| 18:35 | <@caker> | you grabbed that file from a remote server to a Linode = inbound traffic which isn't limited |
| 18:35 | <bdfoster> | not really a limiting factor, just curious |
| 18:35 | <squircle> | !bandwidth |
| 18:35 | <linbot> | Outbound bandwidth from your Linode is capped at 50mbps to keep you from eating your entire transfer quota in an hour. You can have this limit raised by submitting a support ticket with appropriate justification. |
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| 18:36 | <bdfoster> | gotcha. that's fine with me just wondering is all |
| 18:36 | <bdfoster> | i guess another question, does outbound traffic on the private net count towards your transfer allotment? |
| 18:36 | <@caker> | negative |
| 18:37 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 18:37 | <bdfoster> | alrighty sounds good lol |
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| 19:17 | <bob2> | caker, has anything changed that could make the two-nics approach to the public/private network thing work better? |
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| 19:19 | <StevenK> | bob2: Two NICs? ip a a on eth0 and move on? |
| 19:20 | <bob2> | StevenK, sure, but the bandwidth limiting is at the nic level |
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| 19:25 | <GLaDOSDan> | http://i.imgur.com/hTdPv.jpg - Thank you /r/sysadmin |
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| 21:05 | <griz> | Hello all. |
| 21:05 | <griz> | Anyone know if it's possible to disable ipv6? Think I've jumped in over my head... |
| 21:06 | <purrdeta> | it isnt, why disable it though? |
| 21:06 | <retro|blah> | Disable in what sense? |
| 21:06 | <purrdeta> | well that too |
| 21:06 | <Kyhwana> | griz: why? |
| 21:07 | <griz> | I was trying to set up an additional ip address and static networking, thought I'd enable ipv6 while I was at it, then found out there's a lot more to it than just pressing that button. Now I'm facing problems and I don't know what the cause is. I'm trying to isolate it. |
| 21:08 | <griz> | Should have done my reasearch :/ |
| 21:08 | <Kyhwana> | They're seperate. But whats your problem, to start |
| 21:08 | <MTecknology> | uhm.... wow 20:06:56 up 41 min, 1 user, load average: 1251.61, 1173.71, 1068.48 |
| 21:09 | <@caker> | heh |
| 21:09 | <MTecknology> | it's a web crawler server |
| 21:09 | <@caker> | griz: IPv6 autoconfigures. You don't do anything special for it. |
| 21:09 | <@caker> | so if you're having problems, look elsewhere |
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| 21:09 | <griz> | MTech, is that me? and why is that wow? |
| 21:10 | <MTecknology> | griz: hm? |
| 21:10 | <griz> | Well, it was either DNS or something to do with aegir, which all my sites are running on. |
| 21:10 | <@akerl> | If someone in #linode can pull uptime stats on your server, there is a problem... |
| 21:10 | <bob2> | tl;dr explain what problem you are experiencing |
| 21:10 | <griz> | yeah, I was slightly curious / afraid for a sec there! |
| 21:10 | <bob2> | as always in every channel on every network |
| 21:11 | <@caker> | griz: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ? maybe we can help --- p.linode.com |
| 21:11 | <griz> | thought it might be staff, griz is my username |
| 21:12 | <griz> | thanks caker. Not sure anyone can help right now... I've also been having trouble with backups recently and I can't even restore anything atm. I have nothing to work with and I'm waiting for post processing to finish on the last snapshot before trying again. |
| 21:14 | <griz> | It's wierd because if I enter the FQDN of my server I get the single html page that's hosted there, but nothing on aegir works after I've gone through the static IP guide. |
| 21:14 | <griz> | No doubt I'll be back here shortly when I've got the damn thing booted again. |
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| 21:20 | <griz> | In the meantime can anyone tell me what "Unable to get backup lock for restore. " actually means? |
| 21:21 | <@akerl> | Is one of your backups in post processing? |
| 21:21 | <griz> | yerp. |
| 21:21 | <@akerl> | It means that. |
| 21:21 | <griz> | Yeah, thought as much. |
| 21:27 | <griz> | I can't believe comic sans is an option. |
| 21:27 | <griz> | Though it might make it hard to get into arguments. |
| 21:33 | <staticsafe> | :o |
| 21:34 | <griz> | o_0 |
| 21:35 | <griz> | needsPostProcessing |
| 21:36 | <bob2> | is aegir some php web app |
| 21:36 | <griz> | yeah. It's good if you don't break it. |
| 21:37 | <griz> | it's for deploying drupal in many flavours. |
| 21:37 | <Kyh_> | fix it so you can't break it |
| 21:37 | <bob2> | yeah, ipv6 is not the problem |
| 21:38 | <griz> | Yeah, I can see that now. I was just bricking it because I changed too much at once and in this case there's no undo button. |
| 21:38 | <Kyh_> | griz: there's these cool things called version control systems these days |
| 21:39 | <griz> | Kyh, for controlling versions of what? |
| 21:39 | <purrdeta> | your edits |
| 21:39 | <griz> | to |
| 21:39 | <Kyh_> | whatever you broke |
| 21:39 | <purrdeta> | I dunno, whatever you broke |
| 21:40 | <griz> | hmm. I've used git but I don't think that'll help me set up static networking. |
| 21:40 | <rnowak> | etckeeper, it will enable you to unfuck stuff |
| 21:41 | <purrdeta> | we are referring to your comment "I changed to much at once... no undo button" |
| 21:41 | <Kyh_> | +1 to etckeeper |
| 21:41 | <griz> | now that sounds more like it. |
| 21:41 | <griz> | thanks, i'd not heard of that. |
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| 21:44 | <griz> | what do you guys do for a living? |
| 21:45 | <rnowak> | baws around |
| 21:45 | <purrdeta> | I am a student. I part time work at my university with IT support. |
| 21:45 | <griz> | nice. |
| 21:46 | <griz> | <- student. Not IT. Who'd have guessed. |
| 21:46 | <purrdeta> | I'm actually not an IT student either. I just work there :) |
| 21:46 | <@heckman> | I'm a Linode employee |
| 21:46 | <@heckman> | >_> |
| 21:47 | <@heckman> | I guess there was real no surprise there |
| 21:47 | <rnowak> | YOU DON'T SAY |
| 21:47 | <purrdeta> | I am surprised! |
| 21:47 | <purrdeta> | rnowak is a pastry eater yes? |
| 21:47 | <purrdeta> | or should I say mowak. |
| 21:47 | <rnowak> | part time pastry eater, part time chemical engineer, part time awesome, but only part time |
| 21:48 | <purrdeta> | connoisseur is a better word I imagine for your pastry festivities. |
| 21:48 | <rnowak> | mhm that does sound better indeed |
| 21:48 | <rnowak> | aficionado, so to say |
| 21:48 | <purrdeta> | ah yes |
| 21:49 | <rnowak> | though that applies more to coffee than pastry |
| 21:49 | <rnowak> | I just love stuffing my face with pastry (: |
| 21:49 | <griz> | chemical engineering + pastry expertise -> serious baking |
| 21:49 | <rnowak> | I take my coffee vrysrs |
| 21:49 | <purrdeta> | I am so hungry. |
| 21:51 | <griz> | purrdeta, you have the internet... so many ways to fix that problem. |
| 21:51 | <griz> | the horror... |
| 21:51 | <@Perihelion> | papa johns has a 25% coupon today :3 |
| 21:52 | <purrdeta> | hah. I am in class, however. So it must wait |
| 21:52 | <rnowak> | I more than once left a class because I wanted to nom, fuck class, give me my noms. |
| 21:52 | <purrdeta> | I agree. But he hasnt taken attendance yet and I've put in this much time, I will get recognized for it. :P |
| 21:53 | <rnowak> | haha |
| 21:53 | <purrdeta> | I just want to graduate. Soon enough, I suppose. |
| 21:53 | <griz> | Ah, I hate that. All our lecturers take the register at the start except ONE. And everyone knows why. |
| 21:53 | <purrdeta> | griz: what are you studying? |
| 21:54 | <griz> | Because he's so boring that if he didn't take it at the end everybody would leave. |
| 21:54 | <griz> | Sound engineering. |
| 21:54 | <rnowak> | lulz attendance, like kindergarten |
| 21:54 | <purrdeta> | griz: this is a 3 hour class. People leave in the middle otherwise. So I dont blame him. He took attendance at the beginning for a bit and now at the end :) |
| 21:54 | <rnowak> | don't wanna be there -> your problem |
| 21:54 | <griz> | This man makes the most fascinating subjects mind-numbing. |
| 21:54 | <purrdeta> | This is the USA, we must be babysat :) |
| 21:54 | <purrdeta> | griz: interesting |
| 21:54 | <purrdeta> | at least for me, it is the USA |
| 21:55 | <rnowak> | how are you in class right now in the US? |
| 21:55 | <rnowak> | night skewl? |
| 21:55 | <purrdeta> | It's almost 9PM :) |
| 21:55 | <@Perihelion> | None of my professors took attendance |
| 21:55 | <purrdeta> | sorta. 6:30-9:30PM :/ |
| 21:55 | <@Perihelion> | they were just like "youre an adult, make your own decisions" |
| 21:55 | <purrdeta> | Once a week, yay |
| 21:55 | <rnowak> | Perihelion: that's how it goes here |
| 21:55 | <purrdeta> | Perihelion: most of mine are. some arent. Some give extra credit of sorts if you come |
| 21:55 | <rnowak> | except for classes which do not have a written exam; those require attendance to pass, which is pretty obvious |
| 21:56 | <Nivex> | my profs were all "You paid to be here. I don't care if you don't show up." |
| 21:56 | <@Perihelion> | yeah exactly |
| 21:56 | <@Perihelion> | Where is mein pizza? :< |
| 21:56 | <rnowak> | nommed it |
| 21:56 | <purrdeta> | I get annoyed at people who pay for a class and then never show up and also complain about how poor they are and how tuition is so high and shit :/ |
| 21:57 | <griz> | I wish the magic Linode monkeys would hurry up Process my Post. |
| 21:57 | <rnowak> | well, it depends on lecturer -- some you're better off without |
| 21:57 | <purrdeta> | hehe |
| 21:57 | <Gshock> | Make people take a bunch of bullshit classes they dont want for a bullshit degree and its easy to see how things get that way though |
| 21:58 | <Nivex> | http://www.nivex.net/emerson.txt |
| 21:59 | <@Perihelion> | Si |
| 21:59 | <purrdeta> | yup |
| 21:59 | <griz> | nice |
| 22:00 | <Nivex> | only one of you got that over IPv6. |
| 22:00 | <praetorian> | Perihelion: Si |
| 22:00 | <purrdeta> | Everyone always told me... "When you get to your major classes you get to take ones you want!" Partially false. I still have to take several classes I dont want as it is required. :) |
| 22:00 | <@heckman> | Nivex: what's the IP? |
| 22:01 | <Nivex> | 2001:470:1f07:1251:6aa8:6dff:fe0b:448a |
| 22:01 | <rnowak> | IPv6 is a fad |
| 22:01 | <Nivex> | rnowak: just like the Internet |
| 22:01 | <@heckman> | hrm, my PTR record for that IP looks messed. |
| 22:01 | <purrdeta> | and computers actually |
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| 22:01 | <griz> | right... massive noobshine imminent... |
| 22:02 | <@heckman> | Oh, apparently I forgot to add it |
| 22:02 | <griz> | when I paste that IP I just get search results. |
| 22:02 | <Nivex> | 2600:3c00::1b:a001 |
| 22:02 | <@heckman> | griz: which IP? |
| 22:02 | <Nivex> | that's a Dallas pool |
| 22:03 | <retro|blah> | Enclose them in []s if you're pasting into a browser |
| 22:03 | <@heckman> | Also, there's no web server running on my MacBook Air...so.. |
| 22:03 | <rnowak> | heckman: there should be! |
| 22:03 | <griz> | thankyou retro|blah |
| 22:03 | <purrdeta> | it should host cats |
| 22:03 | <retro|blah> | Well |
| 22:04 | <griz> | not sure how many cats you could fit in a macbook. |
| 22:05 | <purrdeta> | many many a cat. |
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| 22:05 | <griz> | I think you could get a few in a 2u case. |
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| 22:06 | <@heckman> | Okay, PTR record added |
| 22:06 | <Kyhwana> | hrm |
| 22:06 | <Nivex> | nice |
| 22:07 | <Kyhwana> | Oh, I havn't added a ptr for that IP |
| 22:08 | <griz> | how long does post processing usually take? I know it'll be dependent on the amount of stuff backed up. This one only took 7 mins... been waiting for pp for about an hour now. |
| 22:10 | <griz> | Ah, n/m. I know that's not an answerable question. |
| 22:10 | <griz> | but... is it queued up with other ppls? |
| 22:10 | <purrdeta> | probably |
| 22:11 | <griz> | yeah, must be. doesn't use the server's cpu so... |
| 22:12 | <griz> | frack. I can't go to bed with my server not even booted. I suck at this almost as much as I suck at telehack. |
| 22:12 | <@akerl> | Why isn't your Linode booted? |
| 22:13 | <griz> | I lasted about half an hour and started reading an essay on star wars vs star trek. |
| 22:13 | <griz> | Because I can't restore any backups. |
| 22:14 | <griz> | and I deleted my other filesystem before restoring. So many lessons in such a short time. |
| 22:14 | <@akerl> | Oh |
| 22:14 | <griz> | yeah. |
| 22:15 | <griz> | spsoe I could restore to another linode |
| 22:15 | <griz> | or... not? |
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| 22:17 | <griz> | http://xkcd.com/963/ |
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| 22:18 | <purrdeta> | hah |
| 22:18 | <Kyhwana> | ? |
| 22:18 | <griz> | but replace "open xorg.conf" with "reboot linode" |
| 22:18 | <purrdeta> | class is finally over. bbl. |
| 22:18 | <griz> | bye purrdeta |
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| 22:25 | <griz> | 03:25... time to snore. |
| 22:25 | <griz> | thanks and bye all. |
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| 22:36 | <MTecknology> | so... capsaicin crystals in my nose |
| 22:36 | <MTecknology> | wow |
| 22:36 | <@heckman> | Sell em on eBay |
| 22:37 | <MTecknology> | no thanks, makes food awesome |
| 22:37 | <rnowak> | ... |
| 22:38 | <MTecknology> | ? |
| 22:39 | <rnowak> | because it is totally sane to add pure capsaicin crystals to cooking, what a stupid thing to do |
| 22:39 | <MTecknology> | it's not pure cap... |
| 22:39 | <rnowak> | then it isn't capsaicin crystals |
| 22:40 | <MTecknology> | only 15,200,000 SHU, pure is 16,000,000 |
| 22:40 | <rnowak> | still retarded |
| 22:40 | <MTecknology> | why? |
| 22:41 | <rnowak> | are you seriously asking why it is stupid to be cooking with near-to-pure capsaicin? nevermind, continue, I guess darwin needs his game to play out |
| 22:41 | <MTecknology> | The dumb part is rubbing your nose and sniffling. The amazing part is adding it to food. |
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| 22:46 | <MTecknology> | rnowak: also... if you actually eat pure cap crystals you wouldn't notice it, it has to be mixed, What I use is about 50% so it's really only ~7,600,000 SHU. http://www.texascreekproducts.com/products.html first one |
| 22:47 | <rnowak> | I work as an organic chemist, I know what capsaicin is, thanks |
| 22:48 | <rnowak> | and if you don't notice pure capsaicine, why don't you try inhaling some |
| 22:48 | <rnowak> | -e |
| 22:48 | <mbreslin> | i'm familiar with grain and hops |
| 22:48 | <mbreslin> | not sure if that helps |
| 22:48 | <mbreslin> | just putting it out there |
| 22:49 | <MTecknology> | I didn't say I don't notice it. I enjoy the heat. |
| 22:49 | <@heckman> | I set some stuff on fire once. |
| 22:49 | <avenj> | I killed a man in Reno. |
| 22:49 | <MTecknology> | I ate a brownie once. |
| 22:49 | <mbreslin> | that was dumb, probably be caught |
| 22:49 | <mbreslin> | should have killed him in vegas |
| 22:50 | <avenj> | I'm not sure that "stays in vegas" applies to warrant extradition for first degree murder, mbreslin |
| 22:50 | <avenj> | but I'll keep it in mind |
| 22:50 | <rnowak> | MTecknology: you said you wouldn't notice it if you ate it pure |
| 22:50 | <rnowak> | MTecknology: why don't you try (: |
| 22:50 | -!- | klono_ is now known as zz_klono_ |
| 22:50 | <mbreslin> | everyone knows the saying |
| 22:50 | <mbreslin> | what happens in reno, gets forwarded to the fbi |
| 22:51 | <mbreslin> | don't mind me i'm still pissy from not winning the lottery |
| 22:51 | <rnowak> | mbreslin: better luck next time huh |
| 22:51 | <avenj> | I think probably you just didn't buy enough tickets |
| 22:51 | <mbreslin> | i wish! |
| 22:51 | <mbreslin> | it'll be the same exact luck, stupid statistics! |
| 22:51 | <MTecknology> | rnowak: It has to be disolved. |
| 22:52 | <pharaun> | then dissolve it on your tongue |
| 22:52 | <MTecknology> | it won't |
| 22:52 | <rnowak> | ha ha |
| 22:52 | <pharaun> | lemme guess, you need to dissolve it with the heats of a thousands SHU >:3 |
| 22:52 | <MTecknology> | needs to be disolved in things like butane, alcohol, or some oil |
| 22:52 | <MTecknology> | pharaun: ha! |
| 22:52 | <pharaun> | olive oil it is then, drink that and take some |
| 22:52 | <rnowak> | I'll dare you, crush it up into a powder, and inhale it. Disclaimer: I will have no liability. Also, you may want to call for an ambulance. |
| 22:53 | <pharaun> | double dare |
| 22:53 | <mbreslin> | do you think if i was the single winner and won the 346 million or whatever i would have any pull in getting diablo3 before the may 15th release date? |
| 22:53 | <MTecknology> | rnowak: I get the feeling you really don't know much about it and I'm going to end the discussion here. |
| 22:53 | <pharaun> | mbreslin: probably not |
| 22:53 | <mbreslin> | (serious (hypothetical) question) |
| 22:53 | <pharaun> | mbreslin: tho if you encouraged someone to ahem leak for payment, i suppose |
| 22:54 | <mbreslin> | pharaun: not worth it then! |
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| 22:54 | <rnowak> | MTecknology: hahahahahahahahaha |
| 22:55 | <@Perihelion> | Soda just came out of mein nose. |
| 22:55 | <MTecknology> | ouchy |
| 22:55 | <pharaun> | Perihelion: enjoy the burning |
| 22:58 | <XReaper> | heh |
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| 23:10 | * | Katana looks in, sees rnowak infuriated |
| 23:10 | <Katana> | I guess my job is already done here |
| 23:10 | <Katana> | ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌( |
| 23:11 | <Katana> | erm. |
| 23:11 | <Katana> | ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(;￣◇￣)┘ |
| 23:11 | <rnowak> | Katana: more like lulzermaoing |
| 23:11 | * | Katana smacks borked alias |
| 23:12 | <auraka> | when is rnowak not infuriated....he drink hatorade all day |
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| 23:13 | <auraka> | drinks* |
| 23:14 | <XReaper> | ha |
| 23:14 | <MTecknology> | I bought a 21yr old scotch today, second bestest booze i ever drank |
| 23:16 | <MTecknology> | amazing tequila costs only 1/2 as much as amazing scotch :) no hatorade, but still good |
| 23:16 | <XReaper> | Heh |
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| 23:38 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Monitor Outgoing Traffic in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8651>; |
| 23:40 | <Peng> | >.> |
| 23:40 | <XReaper> | Its STILL GOING? |
| 23:40 | <XReaper> | turned into a troll-fest |
| 23:40 | <@heckman> | It is? |
| 23:40 | <@heckman> | Yes It is |
| 23:41 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 23:41 | <rnowak> | I lol'd |
| 23:41 | <rnowak> | a lot of lulzing today |
| 23:41 | <XReaper> | yup |
| 23:42 | <rnowak> | Peng keeps it going, like the energizer bunny |
| 23:44 | <Peng> | If I'd noticed the date I probably wouldn't have posted. |
| 23:45 | <XReaper> | Ha! |
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| 23:45 | <Peng> | On a more pleasant subject, IPv6 DNS masters! \o/ |
| 23:45 | <Peng> | s/more pleasant/less embarrassing |
| 23:45 | <Peng> | / |
| 23:46 | <XReaper> | AFXR ACL's! |
| 23:46 | <rnowak> | less is more |
| 23:46 | <XReaper> | The ACL's... i saw a mention from a post a few YEARS ago talking about adding those |
| 23:46 | <Peng> | "• The AXFR IP 'any' appears to be an invalid IP address." What. |
| 23:46 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 23:46 | <XReaper> | Lol... |
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| 23:47 | <auraka> | Peng: out of curiosity try 0.0.0.0 |
| 23:47 | <auraka> | or 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 23:47 | <daftspunk> | hey guys need some help with vsftpd , i installed and set up successfully, when i log in via a client and do "ls" it just sits there |
| 23:47 | <Kyhwana> | hmmm |
| 23:47 | <auraka> | daftspunk: first question...did you google? |
| 23:48 | <rnowak> | zeroth question: why ftp? |
| 23:48 | <daftspunk> | auraka: ofc |
| 23:48 | <Kyhwana> | daftspunk: you want passive mode. Also, don't use FTP |
| 23:48 | <daftspunk> | SFTP too slow |
| 23:48 | * | rnowak blink |
| 23:48 | <auraka> | daftspunk: do you have a firewall? |
| 23:48 | <daftspunk> | nope |
| 23:48 | <daftspunk> | PASV invalid cmd |
| 23:49 | <Peng> | auraka: Wilco |
| 23:49 | <Peng> | auraka: It accepted 0.0.0.0/0 and ::/0 |
| 23:50 | <auraka> | Peng: there ya go |
| 23:50 | <Peng> | auraka: We can see in 10 minutes if it *works*... |
| 23:50 | <auraka> | :-) |
| 23:50 | * | SleePy is a ram newb. |
| 23:50 | <SleePy> | Should I go with 667MHz or a "800MHz CL6"? |
| 23:50 | <Peng> | auraka: I also tried leaving it blank in another zone. |
| 23:51 | <rnowak> | SleePy: depends on the latencies, but tbh, you won't notice a difference |
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| 23:51 | <Peng> | auraka: Wait, now it just accepted "any". |
| 23:52 | <@heckman> | Peng: what's your question? |
| 23:52 | <SleePy> | rnowak: I will with a 800mhz. My current ram it appears is only 400mhz. I need to get an upgrade on this system :D |
| 23:52 | <Peng> | heckman: 03:46:36 < Peng> "• The AXFR IP 'any' appears to be an invalid IP address." What. |
| 23:52 | <auraka> | daftspunk: maybe I'm stupid but for some reason I thought ftp servers used the dir command instead of ls? Probably my stupidity |
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| 23:52 | <@heckman> | Peng: that should be fixed... |
| 23:52 | <Peng> | heckman: Within the last 5 minutes? |
| 23:52 | <rnowak> | SleePy: there's more to it than just frequency, CL and other latencies among other things |
| 23:53 | <@heckman> | Few hours ago. |
| 23:53 | <Peng> | heckman: Oh, huh. Maybe it didn't deploy to all of the servers? |
| 23:53 | <@heckman> | Might not be totally patched until the A.M. Sorry bout that. |
| 23:53 | <rnowak> | SleePy: and those frequencies are for single channel operation mode, you'll likely have a dual channel memory controller, so double that frequency |
| 23:53 | <Peng> | heckman: I did it again in a different zone and it worked... |
| 23:53 | * | heckman submitted the fix |
| 23:53 | <@heckman> | Peng: has to do with whitespace. |
| 23:53 | <auraka> | heckman: make them do it right....0.0.0.0/0 |
| 23:53 | <Peng> | heckman: I shall survive. Thanks for fixing it. :) |
| 23:53 | <Peng> | heckman: Ah. I probably did the whitespace differently. |
| 23:54 | <SleePy> | rnowak: True. I'm not good at this thing. Just looking to get some more ram into my desktop. Its swapping a lot when I try to run too many apps or some games |
| 23:54 | <Peng> | auraka: Shush |
| 23:54 | <daftspunk> | auraka: both work |
| 23:54 | <@heckman> | Peng: no worries. Was definitely fun devving that feature. :p |
| 23:54 | <daftspunk> | so why is FTP bad? security risk, 3rd party ppl sniffing my data? |
| 23:54 | <auraka> | daftspunk: did you try the dir command |
| 23:54 | <Kyhwana> | !ftp |
| 23:54 | <linbot> | Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp |
| 23:54 | <@heckman> | daftspunk: plain text |
| 23:54 | <SleePy> | Will just go with the 800mhz. If I won't notice much of a difference and they are the same price why now |
| 23:54 | <rnowak> | SleePy: well, unless you will be doing computationally heavy stuff, that has to move around a lot of data in RAM, you won't notice the difference -- just add more RAM and be happy :p |
| 23:55 | <Kyhwana> | SleePy: moar ram is moar better |
| 23:55 | <daftspunk> | auraka: ya |
| 23:55 | <Kyhwana> | SleePy: Is this for a P4 or something? |
| 23:55 | <SleePy> | I will be happy when my system doesn't slow down while it swaps |
| 23:55 | <SleePy> | md |
| 23:55 | <SleePy> | *amd |
| 23:56 | <rnowak> | and you're sure your computer can take that RAM? |
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| 23:56 | <daftspunk> | im on a closed network and i doubt anyone at my ISP is sniffing out my transmissions, well maybe |
| 23:56 | <daftspunk> | decent SFTP client then? |
| 23:56 | <SleePy> | I verified it. The mobo can support up to 8 gb of ram. I've got 4 (4x1gb sticks) |
| 23:56 | <Peng> | daftspunk: Decent FTP clients also support SFTP. |
| 23:56 | <rnowak> | daftspunk: windows? winscp, osx? that duck -- or filezilla for any if you're out of option |
| 23:57 | <rnowak> | s |
| 23:57 | <rnowak> | SleePy: ah |
| 23:57 | <daftspunk> | win7 |
| 23:57 | <auraka> | daftspunk: cyberduck |
| 23:58 | <auraka> | www.cyberduck.ch |
| 23:58 | <Kyhwana> | daftspunk: except anyone between your ISP and your linode can sniff it |
| 23:58 | <daftspunk> | sold! ty |
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| 23:59 | <daftspunk> | Kyhwana: i like to think people have better things to do |
| 23:59 | <linbot> | Point (0.99712188, 0.28333019) falls outside of the unit circle. Hits: 110544 of 140326 (π ≈ 3.151062525832704 - 0.009469872242911). http://π.hoopycat.com/ |
| 23:59 | <auraka> | or....you know heckman can sniff it |
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