| --- | Log | opened Mon Feb 27 00:00:06 2012 |
| --- | Day | changed Mon Feb 27 2012 |
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| 00:02 | <chesty> | first |
| 00:02 | <Katana> | EugeneKay: want me to cross-post that for you |
| 00:03 | <EugeneKay> | Go for it |
| 00:03 | <Katana> | we need a command for linbot |
| 00:03 | <EugeneKay> | !forumreply? |
| 00:03 | <Katana> | yes |
| 00:03 | <Katana> | XDE |
| 00:03 | <Katana> | errr. s/E// |
| 00:04 | <Katana> | the command for LAZY IRC BASTARDS |
| 00:05 | <Katana> | like us! |
| 00:05 | <Katana> | EugeneKay: done btw |
| 00:06 | <EugeneKay> | <3 |
| 00:06 | <EugeneKay> | The important bit, of course, is *how* you plot to import your arbitrarily schema'ed SQL into another arbitrary schema. |
| 00:06 | <EugeneKay> | Usually involving some sort of SELECT INTO crying |
| 00:07 | <nviror> | Randomly I'm getting this message, [php_errormsg] 'PDO::__construct(): [2002] No such file or directory (trying to connect via unix:///var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock) |
| 00:07 | <Katana> | heh |
| 00:07 | <Kyh_> | mysqld isn't running |
| 00:07 | <nviror> | Is there any alternative to mysql socket connection |
| 00:07 | <nviror> | Its running |
| 00:07 | <Katana> | Tell PHP to use the right socket? checked php.ini? |
| 00:08 | <Kyh_> | so where has it put it's .sock file? |
| 00:08 | <mbreslin> | So it has come to this. |
| 00:08 | <nviror> | I just verified, the location is same as in my.cnf |
| 00:08 | <nviror> | i.e /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 00:09 | <Katana> | modify the DSN for the PDO instance to add ";unix_socket=/path/to/socket/mysqld.sock" |
| 00:09 | <Katana> | the ; at the beginning is your separator between DSN arguments. |
| 00:11 | <nviror> | Can't we connect through localhost:port just like i did for php-fpm? |
| 00:11 | <nviror> | smiley shouldn't have come without space |
| 00:12 | <Katana> | if mysql is listening on a port. |
| 00:14 | <nviror> | yes its listening on 3306 |
| 00:21 | <Katana> | what's the constructor for PDO getting then? |
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| 00:34 | <linbot> | New news from forums: restore in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8487> |
| 00:34 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 00:34 | <Kyh_> | lol |
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| 00:53 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 00:53 | <GLaDOSDan> | lol |
| 00:59 | * | Katana continues messing with rvm |
| 00:59 | * | Katana installs ruby 1.9.3, watches load average start climbing |
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| 01:00 | <linuxdude> | quick question |
| 01:01 | <chesty> | quick answer |
| 01:01 | <Kyh_> | !ASK |
| 01:01 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 01:01 | <linuxdude> | i want to setup a postfix server |
| 01:01 | <chesty> | !setup |
| 01:01 | <linbot> | setup is not a verb. Please see http://notaverb.com/setup |
| 01:01 | <@Praefectus> | !setup |
| 01:01 | <linbot> | setup is not a verb. Please see http://notaverb.com/setup |
| 01:01 | <chesty> | !first |
| 01:01 | <linbot> | beat you |
| 01:01 | <linuxdude> | but i cant relay to gmail.com |
| 01:01 | <linuxdude> | im a noob |
| 01:02 | <Kyh_> | Don't let your email server relay |
| 01:02 | <linuxdude> | ok |
| 01:02 | <linuxdude> | how can i send mail to a gmail account? |
| 01:02 | <linuxdude> | from my server? |
| 01:02 | <Kyh_> | !library postfix |
| 01:02 | <linbot> | Kyh_: 1. Host Email with Postfix, Dovecot and MySQL on CentOS 5 - http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-centos-5 | 2. Host Email with Postfix, Dovecot and MySQL on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) - http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-ubuntu-9.10-karmic | 3. Host Email with Postfix, Dovecot and MySQL on Debian 6 (Squeeze) - http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql- (1 more message) |
| 01:02 | <Kyh_> | hmm |
| 01:03 | <linuxdude> | ya did that |
| 01:03 | <linuxdude> | i can send mail to my local mailbox |
| 01:03 | <linuxdude> | think im missing a step |
| 01:03 | <linuxdude> | i get |
| 01:03 | <linuxdude> | Relay access denied |
| 01:03 | <Kyh_> | So what do your logs say/whats the error? |
| 01:03 | <linuxdude> | when i telnet |
| 01:04 | <linuxdude> | and do it by hand |
| 01:05 | <linuxdude> | is there a server in linode that i can relay off of? |
| 01:06 | <linuxdude> | or am i missing something? |
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| 01:12 | <linuxdude> | anyone? |
| 01:12 | <jason> | hi |
| 01:12 | <@Praefectus> | we don't provide any mail relay services. |
| 01:12 | <jason> | your vps suppoprt DMCA sites? |
| 01:12 | <@Praefectus> | jason: do you plan on violating the DMCA? |
| 01:12 | <linuxdude> | so how do people do it? |
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| 01:13 | <@Praefectus> | linuxdude: they set up their own mail relays |
| 01:13 | <jason> | i find your vps has upload DMCA site. |
| 01:13 | <linuxdude> | k |
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| 01:13 | <linuxdude> | is that easy to do |
| 01:13 | <Katana> | !abuse jason |
| 01:13 | <@akerl> | dvgrhl: I responded to your email. |
| 01:14 | <@Praefectus> | dvgrhl: you did get a reply |
| 01:14 | <dvgrhl> | nothing received |
| 01:14 | <@Praefectus> | dvgrhl: if you want, call in with the last 6 digits of your credit card and your account username |
| 01:14 | <Katana> | jason: have you tried contacting the site in question with the DMCA takedown request? |
| 01:14 | <jason> | I find the vps ip 109.74.193.160 178.79.134.9 |
| 01:14 | <dvgrhl> | ok, now I am wondering why I am not getting Linode emails |
| 01:14 | <Katana> | jason: ...have you sent them a takedown request directly? |
| 01:15 | <@akerl> | ^- Needs to be an actual DMCA notice, not just a list of IPs |
| 01:15 | <Kyh_> | dvgrhl: sometimes they get "stuck". Wait ~20 mins and/or check your spam folder |
| 01:15 | <@Praefectus> | dvgrhl: gmail randomly delays mail |
| 01:15 | <jason> | ok |
| 01:15 | <dvgrhl> | Kyh_: it's been more than 20 mins |
| 01:15 | <dvgrhl> | Praefectus: ok, I'll call in. Thanks |
| 01:16 | <linuxdude> | are there ubuntu packages i can install to setup my box to do mail relay? |
| 01:16 | <linuxdude> | just want to send user@myserver --> gmail.com |
| 01:16 | <linuxdude> | don't want to make this complicated |
| 01:16 | <@akerl> | linuxdude: Why not just use google apps... |
| 01:17 | <Kyh_> | setting up email tends to be complicated, heh. Which is why I just use google apps |
| 01:17 | <linuxdude> | ok |
| 01:17 | <Katana> | akerl: i love it when people try throwing dmca around and then they realize they have to make statements under penalty of perjury though |
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| 01:18 | <Kyh_> | Katana: hah, people do that all the time |
| 01:18 | <Kyh_> | Look at the guy who's youtube video got taken down because there were birds making noise in the background |
| 01:18 | <linuxdude> | so how does google apps work |
| 01:18 | <linuxdude> | basically i want to have cron job's mail out stuff |
| 01:18 | <Katana> | Kyh_: that's why counter-notices exist :) |
| 01:18 | <linuxdude> | do i configure postfix with google apps? |
| 01:19 | <Katana> | Kyh_: I wish it were legal to deny DMCA requests to those who'd falsely served X number of requests before |
| 01:19 | <Kyh_> | Katana: I believe he did ask for it to be reviewed, but youtube said "nope, violates copyright" or some BS |
| 01:19 | <Katana> | suddenly internet becomes a better place after sony/universal/etc. screw up and can't DMCA claim for a year |
| 01:19 | <linuxdude> | http://zecic.com/postfix-relaying-with-google-apps-smtp/ |
| 01:19 | <linuxdude> | ? |
| 01:20 | <linuxdude> | is that what you mean? |
| 01:20 | <StevenK> | Tweeting birds are clearly copyrighted by Disney |
| 01:20 | <Katana> | someone should mail disney inc. a copyright notice. strapped to a warhead. propelled by a solid rocket engine. |
| 01:21 | <Kyh_> | hmm, actually it wasn't even a DMCA request, it was youtubes auto scanning thing, which they have setup because of shit copyright laws, etc |
| 01:21 | <Kyh_> | !library google apps |
| 01:21 | <linbot> | Kyh_: 1. Using Google Apps for Email - http://library.linode.com/email/google-mail | 2. Analyze Web Traffic with with Piwik - http://library.linode.com/web-applications/analytics/piwik | 3. Host Instant Messaging Services with ejabberd on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) - http://library.linode.com/communications/xmpp/ejabberd/ubuntu-8.04-hardy |
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| 01:22 | <Katana> | ohey piwik! |
| 01:22 | <Katana> | hopefully that article recommends the safer version |
| 01:23 | <Katana> | the one without the xss that koto found |
| 01:23 | <Katana> | yaaay it is |
| 01:23 | <linuxdude> | hanx |
| 01:23 | <linuxdude> | thanx |
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| 01:40 | <Narasimha> | Dear Team |
| 01:41 | <Narasimha> | I have a domain withname AuthorsInn.com |
| 01:41 | <Kyh_> | A-Team! |
| 01:41 | <Narasimha> | in the browser if I type authorsinn.com it is not resolving |
| 01:41 | <Narasimha> | but I type www.AuthorsInn.com |
| 01:41 | <Kyh_> | Narasimha: that's because it doesn't have an A/AAAA record |
| 01:41 | <Narasimha> | it is resolving any issue? |
| 01:41 | <Narasimha> | what should I add |
| 01:42 | <@akerl> | Narasimha: Did you add a domain zone called authorsinn.com, or www.authorsinn.com? |
| 01:42 | <Kyh_> | You need to add an A record for authorsinn.com |
| 01:42 | <Narasimha> | authorsinn 178.79.184.217 |
| 01:42 | <Narasimha> | it is already haviung the A record |
| 01:43 | <@akerl> | What is the zone called? |
| 01:43 | <Kyh_> | Narasimha: how long ago did you add it? |
| 01:43 | <Narasimha> | Zone File: |
| 01:43 | <Narasimha> | ; AuthorsInn.com [255784] $TTL 86400 @ IN SOA ns1.linode.com. karumanchi\.narasimha.gmail.com. 2012022642 14400 14400 1209600 86400 @ NS ns1.linode.com. @ NS ns2.linode.com. @ NS ns3.linode.com. @ NS ns4.linode.com. @ NS ns5.linode.com. @ MX 1 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. @ MX 5 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. @ MX 5 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. @ MX 10 ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM. @ MX 10 ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM. authorsinn A 178.79.184.217 mail A 178.79.184.2 |
| 01:44 | <@Praefectus> | !pb |
| 01:44 | <Kyh_> | !p |
| 01:44 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 01:44 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 01:44 | <pharaun> | pb! |
| 01:45 | <Kyh_> | Narasimha: ... you added a record for authorsinn to authorsinn.com. So authorsinn.authorsinn.com resolves. |
| 01:45 | <Kyh_> | But since you don't have an A record for just authorsinn.com it doesn't resolve |
| 01:45 | <Narasimha> | Can you tell me what should I add to resolve both AuthorsInn.com and also www.AuthorsInn.com |
| 01:46 | <Kyh_> | Narasimha: and A record for authorsinn.com |
| 01:46 | <Kyh_> | -d |
| 01:51 | <Narasimha> | Dear Khy: if I give authorsinn.com in hostname for A record, it is not showing anything |
| 01:51 | <Narasimha> | is that fine? |
| 01:51 | <Kyh_> | ? |
| 01:52 | <Narasimha> | I am trying to create the A record |
| 01:52 | <Narasimha> | with host name: authorsinn.com and IP: 178.79.184.217 |
| 01:52 | <Kyh_> | It'll take up to 15 minutes for it to go through |
| 01:53 | <Narasimha> | I am confused lttle |
| 01:54 | <Narasimha> | can U please give some sample A records |
| 01:54 | <Kyh_> | You need to wait for the DNS servers to start serving it |
| 01:54 | <Kyh_> | "@ 10800 IN A 173.255.206.137" |
| 01:54 | * | Peng wonders if authorsinn.com.authorsinn.com. will now exist. |
| 01:54 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:54 | <Kyh_> | Perihelion: lol |
| 01:54 | <Kyh_> | probably |
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| 01:55 | <Kyh_> | also fail tab completion |
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| 01:57 | <dwfreed> | Hmm, how to get a Linode kernel /proc/config.gz without booting it? |
| 01:57 | <Kyh_> | dwfreed: rescue boot? |
| 01:57 | <dwfreed> | Kyh_: that's still booting it |
| 01:58 | <Kyh_> | oh, you're being cheap eh? |
| 01:58 | <Kyh_> | can you move disk images to other nodes? |
| 01:58 | <dwfreed> | Sure, clone and then delete |
| 01:59 | <Kyh_> | There you go then |
| 01:59 | <dwfreed> | But I don't feel like spinning up another node |
| 01:59 | <dwfreed> | I only have 1 at the moment |
| 02:00 | <dwfreed> | All I need is the configs for 3 kernels (I like to keep one of each series (3.0, 3.1, and 3.2) just in case) |
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| 02:04 | <Jaffa> | My Domain is not responding... |
| 02:05 | <Jaffa> | but I got a nameserver updation from GoDaddy |
| 02:05 | <Jaffa> | DomainName: JaffaNews.com |
| 02:05 | <Kyh_> | how long ago did you updatre it? |
| 02:05 | <Jaffa> | If we try with IP it is showing the content |
| 02:05 | <Jaffa> | 1day |
| 02:05 | <Kyh_> | jaffanews.com has address 68.178.232.100 |
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| 02:06 | <@akerl> | Jaffa: That domain is not using our nameservers |
| 02:06 | <sparkit> | hello |
| 02:06 | <sparkit> | can somebody help me with my problem? |
| 02:06 | <dwfreed> | !ask sparkit |
| 02:06 | <Kyh_> | !ask |
| 02:06 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 02:06 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 02:06 | <Kyh_> | Jaffa: talk to go daddy, since you're using godaddy to host the DNS for it |
| 02:06 | <sparkit> | our website is returning an error http://sparkit.me/ |
| 02:07 | <@akerl> | sparkit: What do your logs say? |
| 02:07 | <Kyh_> | sparkit: your backend is down, you need to see whats up with that |
| 02:08 | <sparkit> | where can I see my log? |
| 02:08 | <Jaffa> | @Kyh: I contacted them |
| 02:08 | <Jaffa> | they are saying Linode is not able to derefence it |
| 02:09 | <@akerl> | Linode is not able to who what now? |
| 02:09 | <Kyh_> | what? |
| 02:09 | <Jaffa> | can U please check which name server it is pointing to |
| 02:09 | <Jaffa> | jaffaNews.com |
| 02:09 | <@akerl> | I did before. It's pointing to godaddy's nameservers |
| 02:09 | <Jaffa> | my IP: http://50.116.17.213/ |
| 02:09 | <Kyh_> | NS45.DOMAINCONTROL.COM NS46.DOMAINCONTROL.COM |
| 02:09 | <Jaffa> | few minutes back I got a message from Godaddy saying it is changed now |
| 02:09 | <Kyh_> | It's still being cached, then. Just wait a bit |
| 02:09 | <@akerl> | Jaffa: Likely you'll need to wait for the change to propagate, but that's on their end |
| 02:10 | <Kyh_> | sparkit: wherever they get stored.. usually /var/log/ |
| 02:10 | <sparkit> | ok i'll check |
| 02:10 | <Kyh_> | You need to find whatever your backend/web app/database is and check its logs |
| 02:11 | <Jaffa> | @KyH: OK thank U |
| 02:11 | <Jaffa> | Great Support |
| 02:12 | <sparkit> | what file should i open under var/log? |
| 02:12 | <dwfreed> | sparkit: /var/log/nginx/error_log is the usual location, though you may have changed it in your config |
| 02:15 | <sparkit> | it says from var/log/nginx/error.log "2012/02/27 02:13:27 [error] 2007#0: *79 open() "/var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.50.18.202, server: localhost, request: "GET /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml HTTP/1.1", host: "autodiscover.sparkit.me" |
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| 02:16 | <sparkit> | what's happening? |
| 02:17 | <marius> | That's just someone with an exchange accunt trying to read the autodiscover file on the domain |
| 02:17 | <Kyh_> | hmm, /var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml doesn't exist, as it says.. Or your fileserver can't access it |
| 02:17 | <marius> | s/accunt/account/ |
| 02:17 | <marius> | If it did exist on your linode I would be very confused as it's generated by Microsoft's Exchange software |
| 02:17 | <Kyh_> | hmm |
| 02:18 | <Kyh_> | sparkit: what other errors are there? |
| 02:18 | <marius> | Pastebin the last 10 or so lines for us |
| 02:18 | <sparkit> | i'll check again var/log/nginx/error.log |
| 02:19 | <marius> | Check yoru virtual host as well, maybe you've defined another location for that particulare site to store it's logs? |
| 02:20 | <marius> | I am really horrible at spelling >_< |
| 02:21 | <sparkit> | what is this? 2012/02/27 02:18:42 [error] 2007#0: *83 open() "/var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.50.18.202, server: localhost, request: "GET /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml HTTP/1.1", host: "autodiscover.sparkit.me" |
| 02:23 | <sparkit> | can somebody help? |
| 02:23 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Pastebin the whole log? |
| 02:24 | <@akerl> | !p |
| 02:24 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 02:25 | <sparkit> | ok |
| 02:25 | <marius> | (And I already explained the autodiscover) |
| 02:25 | <marius> | Why you would point your autodiscover. subdomain to your linux server is beyond me though ;) |
| 02:30 | <sparkit> | I can't pastebin. my username password does not work. ill try to use ie |
| 02:31 | <retro|blah> | Read the actual text of the dialog box, please. |
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| 02:31 | <dcraig> | pastebin would probably work better if it wasn't running on a Linode 300... |
| 02:31 | <@Praefectus> | 64 |
| 02:32 | <Kyh_> | lrn2pastebin |
| 02:32 | <@Praefectus> | KIWI! |
| 02:32 | <ajmitch> | where? |
| 02:32 | <@Praefectus> | dunno, but ima get some on the way home |
| 02:32 | <@Praefectus> | along with strawberries and orange juice |
| 02:33 | * | ajmitch imagines Praefectus cooking up a small flightless bird |
| 02:33 | <dcraig> | I'm excited about the new widescreen pastebin |
| 02:33 | <@Praefectus> | ajmitch: kiwi, strawberries, and OJ in a blender with some ice! |
| 02:33 | <ajmitch> | poor little kiwi |
| 02:33 | <sparkit> | pastebin not working. not accepting username and passwrod |
| 02:33 | <dcraig> | lines don't wrap at 40 characters or whatever the old one used to do |
| 02:33 | <@Praefectus> | delicious little kiti |
| 02:33 | <@Praefectus> | kiwi, too |
| 02:34 | <@akerl> | sparkit: What does the text say on the authentication box? |
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| 02:34 | <sparkit> | This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required. I put my correct Linode account |
| 02:34 | <ajmitch> | Praefectus: they're endangered, you know, so putting one in a blender won't be a good idea :) |
| 02:34 | * | dcraig tickles sparkit around a bit with a large skipping goby |
| 02:35 | <@Praefectus> | sparkit: read the login dialog box please |
| 02:35 | <@akerl> | sparkit: The text right above where you're typing your username and password |
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| 02:36 | <sparkit> | The server p,linode.com at READ ME:user/pass is no/spam require a username and password |
| 02:36 | <@akerl> | ^- do that |
| 02:37 | <sparkit> | it does not accept my username and passwrod |
| 02:37 | <@Praefectus> | READ ME:user/pass is no/spam <read again please |
| 02:37 | <sparkit> | ok |
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| 02:42 | <marcelo> | hi |
| 02:42 | <marcelo> | Is there anyone here how to fix 502 Bad Gateway |
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| 02:43 | <@akerl> | Guest4186: What do your logs say? |
| 02:43 | <dwfreed> | socat + bash ♥ |
| 02:45 | <Guest4186> | 2012/02/27 02:18:42 [error] 2007#0: *83 open() "/var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.50.18.202, server: localhost, request: "GET /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml HTTP/1.1", host: "autodiscover.sparkit.me" |
| 02:45 | <Guest4186> | thats the log file |
| 02:46 | <@akerl> | Guest4186: That's the only thing in the entire log file? |
| 02:46 | <Guest4186> | nope |
| 02:46 | <@akerl> | Pastebin the log? |
| 02:46 | * | ajmitch gets a sense of deja vu |
| 02:47 | <Guest4186> | most of the log message are the same |
| 02:47 | <Guest4186> | 2012/02/27 02:17:39 [error] 2007#0: *83 open() "/var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.50.18.202, server: localhost, request: "GET /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml HTTP/1.1", host: "autodiscover.sparkit.me" 2012/02/27 02:17:54 [error] 2007#0: *83 open() "/var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.50.18.202, server: localhost, reques |
| 02:47 | <Kyh_> | thats not the problem |
| 02:47 | <Guest4186> | anyone knows how to fix it? |
| 02:48 | <@akerl> | Guest4186: Pastebin the log? |
| 02:48 | <@akerl> | !p |
| 02:48 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 02:48 | <Guest4186> | ok |
| 02:49 | <marius> | And for the love of god, point your autodiscover. subdomain at your excahgne server (this should always be a CNAME record to your exchange server for adress books to work) |
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| 02:57 | <TeddyR> | guest4186: also, wildcards are bad... can cause things like autodiscover and mxs to not work correctly... |
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| 03:01 | <gior> | Hi there, guys. i've just started using linode. Tell me please. Can I install two systems on my linode ? For example could I allocate 10gb to a one system snf the rest to the other ? |
| 03:01 | <Kyh_> | gior: yes |
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| 03:01 | <Kyh_> | but obviously you can only have one running at once |
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| 03:04 | <gior> | uh, that makes the second system not so uefull as it could be |
| 03:04 | <Kyh_> | gior: ... |
| 03:05 | <Kyh_> | If you want more than one running at a time, buy more linodes |
| 03:05 | <gior> | but will I get another IP address for the second system ? |
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| 03:05 | <Kyh_> | If you buy a 2nd one, yes. If it's the same linode and you're switching between them, no. You get the same IP |
| 03:05 | <@Praefectus> | the only way you can run multiple systems at the same time is to purchase multiple linodes |
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| 03:05 | <Kyh_> | Think of it as booting your normal PC. You can't run windows AND linux at the same time |
| 03:05 | <gior> | I see. Thanks ! |
| 03:07 | * | dwfreed waits for somebody to argue semantics there |
| 03:07 | <gior> | see you |
| 03:07 | * | Kyh_ baps dwfreed "shush |
| 03:07 | <dwfreed> | :) |
| 03:08 | <TeddyR> | q: with 2 linode 512s on the same datacenter, is it possible to assign 30g to one and 10g to the other? I realize that the bandwidth quota is already pooled... wondering if the disk space is also "pooled"... |
| 03:08 | <@Praefectus> | nope |
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| 03:10 | <dwfreed> | TeddyR: your disk images are stored on the host your linode runs on; this has the benefit of increasing disk performance with the side effect that you can't give part of your disk allocation for one node to another node (since they're almost always on different hosts) |
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| 03:11 | <@Praefectus> | dwfreed: it's not possible even if they're on the same host, so a simple "no |
| 03:12 | <TeddyR> | ok.. had to ask... :-) |
| 03:12 | <dwfreed> | Praefectus: I know |
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| 03:13 | <@Praefectus> | dwfreed: then that answers the question how exactky? |
| 03:13 | <@Praefectus> | exactly, too |
| 03:14 | <hawk> | I suppose it explains the most probable reason why it is the way it is |
| 03:14 | <dwfreed> | Praefectus: it provides an explanation for why it's not possible; interested customers like to hear it, and uninterested ones can route it to /dev/null |
| 03:15 | <@Praefectus> | dwfreed: but you didnt answer the actual question which required a yes/no |
| 03:15 | <dwfreed> | "you can't give part of your disk allocation for one node to another node" does not answer the question? |
| 03:15 | <@Praefectus> | nop |
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| 03:26 | <dwfreed> | wow, that was dumb |
| 03:26 | <dwfreed> | I just overwrote my 3.0 config and kernel image with my 3.1 one |
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| 03:37 | <Spridan> | how can I upgrade php to latest version on my vps? |
| 03:37 | <Kyh_> | Use your package manager |
| 03:38 | <@Praefectus> | Spridan: how did you install php? |
| 03:38 | <hawk> | Spridan: By "latest version"... you mean latest upstream or latest provided by your distro? |
| 03:38 | <Spridan> | 5.3.8 |
| 03:39 | <@akerl> | You could deploy arch? :) |
| 03:39 | <dwfreed> | !arch :P |
| 03:39 | <linbot> | OMFG I'M NOT GOING NEAR ARCH |
| 03:39 | <hawk> | Spridan: And which of the two alternatives does that fit? |
| 03:40 | <Spridan> | latest provided by my distro |
| 03:40 | <hawk> | Ok, what Kyh_ said, then |
| 03:40 | <Kyh_> | Spridan: so use your distro package manager |
| 03:41 | <Spridan> | what is commant for that? |
| 03:41 | <hawk> | Which distro is it? |
| 03:41 | <Spridan> | apt-get install ? |
| 03:41 | <Kyh_> | Spridan: whatever it is for your distro, we don't know, you haven't told us |
| 03:41 | <retro|blah> | Probably apt-get upgrade |
| 03:41 | <Spridan> | its ubuntu 10.04 LTS |
| 03:42 | <@akerl> | Um... ubuntu 10.04 doesn't look to have 5.3.8 in the repos... |
| 03:42 | <hawk> | apt-get update + apt-get upgrade should do the trick, assuming you have the things installed |
| 03:43 | <Spridan> | ok I guess distro doesnt provide 5.3.8 |
| 03:43 | <Spridan> | its ok for me, just wanted to know whats correct procedure |
| 03:43 | <Spridan> | thanks |
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| 03:48 | <dude9939> | I seem to be having some sort of continuing issue with someone or something dropping a backdoor script in /tmp/.x/update and attaching a cron job assigned to apache.. what would be the best way to track down where this is coming from? |
| 03:48 | <dude9939> | it seems to be an ircd bot that connects to an outside irc server. |
| 03:49 | <Kyh_> | Figure out what you have that's vulnerable.. then blow away your linode after backing it up and install from scratch, making sure all your stuff is secure |
| 03:49 | <@akerl> | dude9939: Have you powered down your Linode yet? |
| 03:49 | <dude9939> | i just restarted.. due to this script hanging the server. |
| 03:49 | <dude9939> | seems to last about 48 hours before it comes back. |
| 03:49 | <@akerl> | Yea, step 1 is power it down. |
| 03:49 | <@akerl> | Do that |
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| 03:49 | <dude9939> | how can i log into it with it powered down? |
| 03:49 | <@akerl> | !finnix |
| 03:50 | <linbot> | Finnix -- http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/finnix-rescue-mode |
| 03:50 | <@akerl> | ^- That's step 2 |
| 03:50 | <dude9939> | step 3? |
| 03:50 | <@akerl> | From there, step 3 is either (Figure out what happened, then back up and redeploy) or (back up and redeploy) |
| 03:51 | <hawk> | Isn't it a bit late to back up at that stage? |
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| 03:51 | <@akerl> | hawk: Yes, but it's still possible to get important data and sanitize it |
| 03:55 | <hawk> | With that in mind I would say step 3+ is preferrably: figure out what happened, back up, redeploy, make sure it's in an offline state, restore from pre-compromise backups, very carefully cherry-pick anything necessary from the backups of your compromised data and after all that, bring your services back online. |
| 03:56 | <@akerl> | hawk: With bonus points for using the knowledge gained from "figure out what happened" to ensure it doesn't happen again |
| 03:56 | <hawk> | (Of course also fixing the actual problem before bringing it online) |
| 03:57 | <hawk> | Yeah, I realized I didn't spell that out |
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| 03:59 | <auraka> | it is early.... |
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| 04:00 | <@akerl> | Bah. It's almost 5pm, and then it's party time |
| 04:00 | <@akerl> | Friday night woo! |
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| 04:01 | <dude9939> | do you guys know how I can track down what installed a cron job? |
| 04:01 | <auraka> | akerl: f...u... |
| 04:02 | <dwfreed> | akerl: I take it you have monday nights off? |
| 04:02 | <Kyh_> | dude9939: nope, if you're rooted kitted you probably won't be able to find exactly what it was |
| 04:02 | <Kyh_> | It's possible, I guess, if you're good at forensics, etc |
| 04:02 | <@akerl> | dwfreed: yessir |
| 04:03 | <dwfreed> | akerl: mind looking something up for me real quick? I've got a pending referral, and I swear I referred them before December, but I can't recall; I just want to know the referral date |
| 04:03 | <hawk> | dude9939, Kyh_: The problem if the hole is not found and plugged is of course that then it's not unlikely it will happen again. |
| 04:04 | <Kyh_> | hawk: yep |
| 04:04 | <@ericoc> | dwfreed: ticket! |
| 04:04 | <dwfreed> | heh |
| 04:04 | <dwfreed> | ericoc: be sure to drop in akerl's lap :) |
| 04:04 | <Musfuut> | dwfreed: I have one also, I swear it is 5 months old now |
| 04:04 | <dwfreed> | Musfuut: heh |
| 04:05 | <Musfuut> | Thing is, I don't remember referring anyone |
| 04:05 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 04:05 | <dwfreed> | lol |
| 04:06 | <dwfreed> | akerl: 824194 :) |
| 04:07 | <dwfreed> | Praefectus: that was meant for akerl :( |
| 04:07 | <@Praefectus> | so? |
| 04:08 | <auraka> | i was suppose to wake up at 4 am...but nooo body decided 2:30 am was good |
| 04:08 | <dwfreed> | Praefectus: and what, you changed your mind about your first answer? |
| 04:08 | <auraka> | I am not going to be in good spirits at work today |
| 04:08 | <@Praefectus> | i tend to change my mind a lot |
| 04:09 | <dwfreed> | heh |
| 04:09 | <auraka> | Praefectus: woman right? |
| 04:09 | <@Praefectus> | auraka: ask urmom, dawg |
| 04:10 | <dwfreed> | auraka: the only woman I know that works for linode is Perihelion :) |
| 04:10 | <auraka> | ahh...I always get the two mixed up |
| 04:12 | <@Praefectus> | auraka: i was just giving him the "nice" answer |
| 04:13 | <praetorian> | Praefectus has the nicest breasts. |
| 04:13 | <@ericoc> | o.O |
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| 04:15 | <praetorian> | http://www.retailmenot.com/view/linode.com |
| 04:15 | <praetorian> | nice try. |
| 04:18 | <praetorian> | is there a listing of when you did get the referral? |
| 04:19 | <hawk> | I bet someone is/was getting a bunch of referrals from that, though |
| 04:20 | <hawk> | Or is it a trap? We must consult admiral ackbar! |
| 04:21 | <ajmitch> | what a deal, I should sign up for that |
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| 04:55 | <auraka> | hmm |
| 04:55 | <Kyh_> | hmm? |
| 04:57 | <auraka> | hmmm |
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| 04:58 | <Peng> | HmmMM! |
| 04:59 | <auraka> | Peng: don't use that sort of language in here |
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| 05:08 | <jianingy_> | how can i request an ipv6 pool ? should i open a ticket for that? |
| 05:08 | <retro|blah> | jianingy_: Yes. |
| 05:08 | <jianingy_> | great |
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| 05:08 | <jianingy_> | and thanks |
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| 05:16 | <sparkit> | hello. my problem has not been resolved. the error pops out suddenly with this message "502 Bad Gateway" and the error under /var/log/nginx/error.log "2012/02/27 03:44:42 [error] 2007#0: *218 open() "/var/www/nginx-default/autodiscover/autodiscover.xml" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.50.18.202, server: localhost, request: "POST /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml HTTP/1.1", host: "autodiscover.sparkit.me" |
| 05:16 | <Kyh_> | That's the same error as before |
| 05:16 | <Kyh_> | Which probably isn't related as to why your site is still down |
| 05:16 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Pastebin the full log? |
| 05:16 | <sparkit> | ok. i'll do now? what's that pastebin for btw? |
| 05:17 | <@akerl> | !p |
| 05:17 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
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| 05:17 | <@akerl> | So I can see your logs |
| 05:17 | <sparkit> | syntax highlighting? |
| 05:18 | <@akerl> | ... not really relevant. I'm mostly concerned with the text, not the color |
| 05:19 | <sparkit> | in the pastebin there is syntax highting drop down. what should i choose? i will ignore it |
| 05:21 | <sparkit> | it's asking A username and password are being requested by http://p.linode.com. The site says: "READ ME: user/pass is no/spam" |
| 05:21 | <Kyh_> | for the love of.. |
| 05:21 | <Kyh_> | That means it's bedtime *zz* |
| 05:21 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Read the message? |
| 05:22 | <auraka> | wow... |
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| 05:23 | <@Praefectus> | sparkit: read the "READ ME" part |
| 05:24 | <sparkit> | sorry but I can't find the READ ME |
| 05:24 | <@Praefectus> | The site says: "READ ME: user/pass is no/spam" |
| 05:24 | <sparkit> | it's a prompt |
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| 05:24 | <sparkit> | what should I put to username and password? |
| 05:24 | <@Praefectus> | The site says: "READ ME: user/pass is no/spam" |
| 05:25 | <hawk> | MOAR! |
| 05:25 | <sparkit> | READ ME: user/pass is no/spam. What should i write under username and password? |
| 05:26 | <Hobbsee> | sparkit: ...no, and spam... |
| 05:26 | <Hobbsee> | surely that's obvious |
| 05:26 | <sparkit> | i tried that already. let me try again |
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| 05:27 | <sparkit> | don't make this hard for me. tell me what to put. username? password? i tried u: user p: spam |
| 05:28 | <@Praefectus> | user is NO |
| 05:28 | <sparkit> | ok done |
| 05:28 | <Hobbsee> | ... |
| 05:28 | <@Praefectus> | pass is SPAM |
| 05:28 | <Hobbsee> | there we go |
| 05:28 | <sparkit> | did you see? |
| 05:28 | <Hobbsee> | now you'll have to give us the link... |
| 05:28 | <ajmitch> | Hobbsee: hi |
| 05:29 | <Hobbsee> | ajmitch: hey! :) |
| 05:29 | <sparkit> | link to what? |
| 05:29 | <sparkit> | our website? |
| 05:29 | <@akerl> | 2012/02/27 03:43:58 [error] 2007#0: *213 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, client: 2.50.18.202, server: sparkit.me, request: "GET / HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:81/", host: "sparkit.me" |
| 05:29 | <@akerl> | What's running on port 81? |
| 05:29 | <@akerl> | Or, more specifically, what is not running? |
| 05:30 | <ajmitch> | Hobbsee: haven't seen you round for awhile :) |
| 05:30 | <sparkit> | what's the problem? the website is www.sparkit.me |
| 05:30 | <Hobbsee> | ajmitch: i hide well |
| 05:30 | <ajmitch> | obviously |
| 05:30 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Yes, and it's failing to connect to your upstream on port 81 |
| 05:30 | <@akerl> | What should be listening on port 127.0.0.1:81? |
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| 05:32 | <sparkit> | i don't know who did that, but the website is running yesterday. what should be the port? |
| 05:32 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Did you set this server up? |
| 05:33 | <sparkit> | no. |
| 05:33 | <@akerl> | Talk to whoever did. |
| 05:33 | <@akerl> | Ask them what should be running on port 81, and tell them to figure out why it's not |
| 05:33 | <sparkit> | so the default port is 127.0.0.1:81? |
| 05:34 | <sparkit> | someone changed the port number? |
| 05:35 | <@akerl> | no |
| 05:35 | <sparkit> | the website is basically in the var/www/src |
| 05:36 | <sparkit> | why this happen? |
| 05:37 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Whatever is supposed to be listening on 127.0.0.1 is not listening correctly |
| 05:37 | <@akerl> | You need to find out why and fix it. |
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| 05:39 | <sparkit> | you know how to fix it? |
| 05:40 | <sparkit> | i don't know this stuff that's why i came here |
| 05:40 | <Peng> | We have insufficient information to say whether we can fix it or not. |
| 05:40 | <dominikh> | there's no magical "Just do this" answer. Ask the people who are responsible for it. |
| 05:41 | <@akerl> | sparkit: To start, you need to find out what's wrong with it |
| 05:41 | <sparkit> | any idea how? is it not cleaning the cache? |
| 05:42 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Your flux capacitor may have shorted out |
| 05:42 | <sparkit> | what's that? |
| 05:42 | <@Praefectus> | replacing a flux capacitor is EXPENSIVE |
| 05:43 | <sparkit> | what's that flux capacitator? |
| 05:43 | <@akerl> | sparkit: We're mostly kidding. What is supposed to be running on 127.0.0.1:81? |
| 05:43 | <dominikh> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_Capacitor |
| 05:43 | <@akerl> | What have you configured to run on 81? |
| 05:44 | <sparkit> | where can i see that port 81? it should point to var/www/spark/src that's it |
| 05:45 | <sparkit> | i did not do anything, not even touching it |
| 05:45 | <@akerl> | sparkit: I think now is a good time to call the person who set up your system |
| 05:45 | <sparkit> | where can i see that port and where it's pointing to? |
| 05:46 | <sparkit> | basically the domain is from godaddy |
| 05:46 | <sparkit> | and host is linode |
| 05:46 | <Hobbsee> | the port is inside your computer. You'll have to look inside the computer to see the port. |
| 05:46 | <Hobbsee> | it could be green |
| 05:46 | <Hobbsee> | more likely blue though |
| 05:46 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Something *inside* your Linode is configured to listen on port 81, but it has failed for some reason |
| 05:47 | <@akerl> | You need to tell us what is supposed to be there. |
| 05:47 | <sparkit> | where can see that? where can i see that .conf? |
| 05:48 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Your entire system. Probably somewhere in /etc |
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| 05:49 | <sparkit> | omg. where in etc? i don't know this stuff |
| 05:49 | <dominikh> | which is why you have been repeatedly told to contact the person who set it up. |
| 05:49 | <@akerl> | sparkit: We don't have access to your system, so we have no idea what you were running |
| 05:49 | <@akerl> | There isn't a single "everything.conf" you can open |
| 05:50 | <Peng> | akerl: I've heard Ubuntu 13.04 is going to add one, though. |
| 05:51 | <dominikh> | wouldn't even surprise me |
| 05:51 | <@akerl> | Unity.conf |
| 05:51 | <sparkit> | is this something responsible from the hosting side? |
| 05:51 | <Peng> | (* I was joking.) |
| 05:51 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Nope, this is internal to your Linode |
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| 05:51 | <Jaffa> | I am sorry for pinging many times |
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| 05:52 | <sparkit> | what do you mean internal. the person who's responsible for setting up the website? |
| 05:52 | <Jaffa> | my site: http://www.jaffanews.com/ is not pointing to my Linode |
| 05:52 | <Jaffa> | I configured in Godaddy, can someone help me? |
| 05:52 | <@akerl> | Jaffa: Still pointed at godaddy's nameservers, not ours |
| 05:52 | <Jaffa> | can you check now? |
| 05:52 | <@akerl> | I just did |
| 05:53 | <Jaffa> | How long it would take? |
| 05:53 | <Jaffa> | I should done 4 hours right? |
| 05:53 | <Jaffa> | can you try: www.jaffanews.com |
| 05:53 | <@akerl> | No idea. It's godaddy's system |
| 05:53 | <Jaffa> | instead of jaffanews.com |
| 05:54 | <marius> | jaffa cakes |
| 05:54 | <marius> | mmmmmm |
| 05:54 | <marius> | delicious cookies with orange gelatin :D |
| 05:54 | <sparkit> | what is happening in my server? we did not do anything suddenly this bad gateway came up |
| 05:54 | <@akerl> | Jaffa: I just tried both with and with www from multiple diverse geographic locations, and all return GoDaddy's nameservers |
| 05:54 | <dominikh> | marius: they taste horrible. |
| 05:54 | <Jaffa> | :) |
| 05:54 | <marius> | WHAT |
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| 05:54 | <marius> | they are glorious |
| 05:54 | <@akerl> | sparkit: Whatever you were running on 127.0.0.1 is no longer responding properly, and you'll need to find out why and fix it |
| 05:55 | <marius> | I would LOVE a site dedicated to their news |
| 05:55 | <Peng> | jaffanews.com. 172800 IN NS ns45.domaincontrol.com. |
| 05:55 | <Peng> | ^ so says b.gtld-servers.net. |
| 05:55 | <Jaffa> | It is not a Jaffa international... |
| 05:55 | <Jaffa> | it is a comedy site for local people of one state in India |
| 05:55 | <marius> | awww, I would much rather read news about cookies =( |
| 05:57 | <Peng> | I'd much rather read a website where Stargate SG-1 soldiers review cooies. |
| 05:57 | <Peng> | k |
| 05:57 | <sparkit> | Whatever you were running on 127.0.0.1 is no longer responding properly, and you'll need to find out why and fix it. dont know how to start |
| 05:57 | <dominikh> | Peng: and I thought I was the only one thinking of SG-1 right now |
| 05:57 | <Peng> | I hit the k key, but not hard enough. :( |
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| 05:58 | <Peng> | sparkit: Start by asking the person who does know. |
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| 06:02 | <marius> | why the F does linux.com run on joomla? |
| 06:02 | <Peng> | What. |
| 06:02 | <sparkit> | i'll ask him what is running on port 81? |
| 06:02 | <Peng> | marius: Oh geez. I read that as "linode.com". Peng needs sleep. |
| 06:02 | <marius> | You heard me...linux.com runs on joomla :| |
| 06:03 | <marius> | Joomla 1.5 at that |
| 06:03 | <marius> | they should update, LTS is abotu to expire on 1.5 |
| 06:03 | <marius> | (and 1.5 is notoriously well known for all the security holes) |
| 06:03 | <sparkit> | akerl, i'll ask him what is running on port 81? |
| 06:03 | <Peng> | sparkit: Yes. |
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| 06:03 | <Peng> | sparkit: And then tell him to fix it. |
| 06:07 | <praetorian> | hmm |
| 06:09 | <vodka> | ooh, linux.com has a new look |
| 06:10 | <marius> | It's still joomla >_> |
| 06:10 | <vodka> | (where "new" means "last time I looked, which was about 4 years ago, they still had that ugly red thing going on") |
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| 06:15 | <@Praefectus> | marius: i thought you loved the jooooomla |
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| 06:19 | * | marius growls |
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| 06:19 | <dominikh> | a joomla once loved marius without his consent |
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| 06:29 | <marius> | I'll give you joomla *rages* |
| 06:29 | <marius> | Their versioning makes no sense |
| 06:29 | <marius> | 1.5 |
| 06:29 | <marius> | 1.6, 1.7, hey loo kat that 2.5.1! |
| 06:30 | <marius> | 1.7 lasted for about a month before thye jumped to 2.5.0, then 2 days for 2.5.1 because of critical security holes |
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| 07:18 | <Werelds> | Is there a problem with the billing gateway? It seems to have charged 3 times, but no new Linode appearing :/ |
| 07:22 | <@akerl> | Werelds: Toss us a ticket? |
| 07:22 | <Werelds> | Yeah was just about to |
| 07:23 | <Werelds> | Using a client's login though so it's a bit awkward. |
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| 07:33 | <praetorian> | !passticket akerl |
| 07:33 | * | linbot passes akerl a ticket |
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| 08:33 | <linbot> | New news from forums: SFTP access? in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8488> |
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| 08:42 | <ikke> | Anyone having problems in fremont118? |
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| 08:43 | <Peng> | Even if other people are, they may not be here right now. |
| 08:43 | <Peng> | If fremont118 has suffered some sort of failure, you probably have a ticket open. |
| 08:43 | <ikke> | Peng already did |
| 08:44 | <ikke> | one of my linodes just got corrupted |
| 08:44 | <@akerl> | it turned evil? |
| 08:44 | <ikke> | akerl yeah :( |
| 08:44 | <ikke> | akerl unable to mount filesystem |
| 08:45 | <@akerl> | ikke: have you done anything of note recently (since last time you rebooted)? major updates, changed configurations, etc? |
| 08:45 | <ikke> | akerl nop |
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| 08:45 | <@akerl> | I'd say to reboot into Rescue Mode and run a filesystem check |
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| 08:45 | <@akerl> | If that returns without errors, mount it in Rescue Mode and take a look around, see if things look to be in order |
| 08:46 | <ikke> | fsck? |
| 08:46 | <@akerl> | Yup |
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| 08:48 | <ikkebr> | akerl not even df seems to work |
| 08:49 | <@akerl> | ikkebr: I'd suggest rebooting into Rescue Mode and trying that fsck |
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| 08:51 | <ikkebr> | akerl may I pm you? |
| 08:51 | <@akerl> | Why? |
| 08:51 | <ikkebr> | disclosing ticket information? |
| 08:51 | <@akerl> | Sure |
| 08:51 | <praetorian> | or pass him the ticket! |
| 08:51 | <praetorian> | !pasticket akerl |
| 08:51 | <praetorian> | typod. |
| 08:51 | <@akerl> | failspeel |
| 08:52 | <praetorian> | !passticket laker |
| 08:52 | * | linbot passes laker a ticket |
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| 09:04 | <chan> | hello |
| 09:04 | <chan> | why my account comingzoo it still pending activation ?? |
| 09:04 | <chan> | what can i do now? |
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| 09:05 | <squircle> | chan: wait, or maybe ping one of the ops here. |
| 09:05 | <squircle> | !ops |
| 09:05 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
| 09:06 | <Peng> | chan: Got any email? |
| 09:06 | <praetorian> | usually if its still waiting activation, is they need to verify something. they will usually contact you very shortly after it |
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| 09:13 | <Narasimha> | Dear Team, this is again regarding jaffanews.com. I got an update from godaddy and they are saying it is Linode's issue |
| 09:13 | <marius> | What is linodes issue ? |
| 09:13 | <squircle> | Narasimha: can you describe the entire issue for those of us who don't remember? |
| 09:13 | <marius> | Also, why are you using godaddy, they are notorious for being horrible |
| 09:13 | <marius> | They also support SOPA and PIPA |
| 09:13 | <dominikh> | yeah, that's classy, shifting blame even though it clearly is their issue :D |
| 09:14 | <squircle> | Narasimha: if it's that you can't get DNS to work, the nameservers for that domain are set to GoDaddy's. you need to set them to ns1-ns5.linode.com |
| 09:14 | <Narasimha> | www.JaffaNews.com is not pointing to correct node |
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| 09:14 | <Narasimha> | I already did that |
| 09:14 | <squircle> | Narasimha: how long ago? |
| 09:14 | <marius> | jaffanews.com points to 68.178.232.100 and is being delegated by ns45.domaincontrol.com |
| 09:14 | <dominikh> | jaffanews.com isn't pointing at Linode at all, the nameserver is still using godaddy's |
| 09:14 | <Narasimha> | and in the DNS manager, it is showing \Linodes servers only |
| 09:14 | <squircle> | Narasimha: how long ago? |
| 09:15 | <marius> | Narasimha, it'll show what yo uset the mto, but the change may now have propogated yet |
| 09:15 | <Narasimha> | This is the update I got |
| 09:15 | <marius> | A nameserver change can take as long as 48 hours |
| 09:15 | <Narasimha> | Dear Narasimha, Thank you for contacting Online Support. I see the nameserver settings for JAFFFANEWS.COM, which is not working when doing an external lookup on the DNS. Upon reviewing your domain's DNS settings it appears to be hosted through another provider. You will want to contact your current hosting provider or nameserver administrator regarding any issues with your hosting account, DNS or website. Please let us know if we can assist you in an |
| 09:15 | <squircle> | Narasimha: one more time, how long ago did you make this change? |
| 09:15 | <Solver> | !pastebin |
| 09:15 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 09:15 | <dominikh> | Narasimha: that's a bloody default block answer. They're not even trying. |
| 09:15 | <Narasimha> | it is almost 2 days with 4 linodes server |
| 09:16 | <Narasimha> | and around 8 hours back I added 5th server also |
| 09:16 | <dominikh> | and as everybody here can confirm: the domain records do not point to or make use of Linode at all. |
| 09:16 | <squircle> | !dig jaffanews.com NS |
| 09:16 | <linbot> | squircle: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: jaffanews.com. 3600 IN NS ns45.domaincontrol.com. | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION |
| 09:16 | <marius> | Then godaddy is doing something funky to nameservers, because the yare still in control |
| 09:16 | <squircle> | that should say linode ^^ |
| 09:16 | <Narasimha> | yeah... |
| 09:16 | <marius> | Allow me to type you up a quick reply |
| 09:17 | <marius> | "I have changed my nameservers but your services have not yet updated these as you should. It has been over 48 horus since I initially changed the nameservers but they are still pointing to your services. Please solve your technical difficulties immediately or I will transfer my domain to anmecheap along with the others!" |
| 09:18 | <marius> | I do beleive namecheap still ahs their "move away form godaddy" promo :P |
| 09:18 | <marius> | and I cna't spell >-< |
| 09:18 | <squircle> | they do as of yesterday |
| 09:18 | <Narasimha> | yeah... |
| 09:19 | <Narasimha> | I sent a reply |
| 09:19 | <Narasimha> | I am sorry for troubling you |
| 09:19 | <squircle> | we're here to help! |
| 09:19 | <marius> | No worries |
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| 09:30 | <staticsafe> | perhaps the wrong place to ask, but anyone got promo codes for Dynadot? :) |
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| 09:39 | <marius> | retailmenot.com ? |
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| 09:55 | <auraka> | staticsafe: coupon BEMINE |
| 09:55 | <auraka> | will give you $7.99 .coms |
| 09:55 | <staticsafe> | ty auraka |
| 09:55 | <auraka> | yup |
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| 09:56 | <auraka> | FEBLOVE will give you %10 off .org |
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| 09:56 | <auraka> | good until 2/29 |
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| 09:59 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 09:59 | <staticsafe> | auraka: lol i just transferred one of my domains |
| 09:59 | <staticsafe> | now to play the waiting game |
| 09:59 | <auraka> | sweet |
| 10:00 | <auraka> | staticsafe: from godaddy to dynadot should take less than an hour |
| 10:00 | <staticsafe> | :D |
| 10:00 | <staticsafe> | there should be no downtime either since im not using GoDaddy's NS |
| 10:01 | <auraka> | correct |
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| 10:41 | <linbot> | New news from forums: How-to run the stock Arch Linux kernel (3.x) on Linode in Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8376> |
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| 10:52 | * | Gladiator waves |
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| 10:53 | * | CaptObviousman challenges Gladiator to a thumb war |
| 10:54 | * | Gladiator wins |
| 10:54 | * | CaptObviousman Drago vill crush you |
| 10:55 | <@Perihelion> | o.o |
| 10:56 | <staticsafe> | :o |
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| 11:28 | <argon> | Is there someone I can speak to about a problem I've had with signing up? |
| 11:29 | <@Perihelion> | Sure, what's up? |
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| 11:31 | <LinodeJavaUser> | ack, connection dropped |
| 11:31 | <@Perihelion> | :( |
| 11:32 | <LinodeJavaUser> | I tried signing up earlier, got to the second step, agreed to the T&C's then after clicking continue it waited a few seconds before taking me back to the first page with all my details still in the form but no errors |
| 11:32 | <LinodeJavaUser> | I noticed that my credit card number was incomplete so I filled it in and tried again but the same thing happened |
| 11:32 | <@Perihelion> | Hmm, do you know what time that was? |
| 11:32 | <LinodeJavaUser> | Then after a few minutes I received 2 invoices but no account details |
| 11:32 | <LinodeJavaUser> | around midday GMT |
| 11:32 | <@Perihelion> | Can you PM me the last 6 digits of the CC used as well as the name you signed up with? |
| 11:33 | <@Perihelion> | I'll take a look |
| 11:34 | <LinodeJavaUser> | How do I PM you in the Java client? I haven't used this before |
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| 11:34 | <mwalling> | should be able to /msg Perihelion |
| 11:34 | <@Perihelion> | Try /msg Perihelion hi |
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| 11:55 | <orville> | i've got a piwik question for anyone here who uses it. |
| 11:55 | <orville> | the graphs seems to be using the wrong range |
| 11:55 | <orville> | but everything else seems to work fine. what gives? |
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| 12:30 | <CaptObviousman> | hmm, what's a good way to track how much bandwidth individual sites are using? |
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| 12:34 | <EugeneKay> | Some sort of log grepping package |
| 12:34 | <EugeneKay> | You can make it easier on yourself by specifying a LogFile per-VirtualHost |
| 12:35 | <CaptObviousman> | hmm |
| 12:35 | <CaptObviousman> | I see a rate limiter built into lighty |
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| 12:40 | <ogp> | I -- what are the benefits on linode over AWS? |
| 12:41 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: static IPs, more control, etc etc. |
| 12:41 | <@irgeek> | Everything is included. |
| 12:41 | <ogp> | hmm...data loss on reboot? |
| 12:41 | <@irgeek> | Nope. |
| 12:41 | <ogp> | do u also have disc space? |
| 12:41 | <@irgeek> | Linodes are persistent. |
| 12:42 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: as much as you buy :) |
| 12:42 | <@irgeek> | ogp: https://www.linode.com/ |
| 12:42 | <@irgeek> | The smaller plans are listed there. Larger ones on the signup page. |
| 12:42 | <@irgeek> | All plans include RAM, disk & transfer. |
| 12:43 | <ogp> | so It's like AWS in that it has cloud files which is similar to S3, but u don't do in memory VPS, we get actual disk space so we can reboot without losing data. |
| 12:43 | <ogp> | is this correct? |
| 12:43 | <HedgeMage> | right |
| 12:43 | <@irgeek> | Transfer is pooled across your Linodes. If you have backend Linodes that don't do much transfer to the Internet, the frontends can use their extra transfer. |
| 12:44 | <CaptObviousman> | now that's neat, I didn't know that |
| 12:44 | <@irgeek> | Uh... that's not quite right. We don't have a service like S3. |
| 12:44 | <CaptObviousman> | but no reason why you can't use s3 from your linode |
| 12:45 | <@irgeek> | True. |
| 12:45 | <CaptObviousman> | it's how I do backups |
| 12:45 | <HedgeMage> | glad you guys chimed in, I totally misread that bit |
| 12:45 | <ogp> | soo? im confused , u said yes and then no. |
| 12:45 | <ogp> | :-s |
| 12:45 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: I misread your question, I thought you said *instead of cloud files* not like them. |
| 12:46 | <ogp> | Ok so what's the difference and why is it better? |
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| 12:46 | <@irgeek> | ogp: A Linode is analogous to a dedicated server. It has RAM, it has disks and it has a network connections. |
| 12:46 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: Having a Linode VPS is a lot like just having a regular server (nothing like cloud services) -- you control everything installed on it, you use your disk how you like, etc. |
| 12:46 | <rnowak> | I don't appreciate you telling such lies, it is a cloud, not a server ok |
| 12:46 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: it's just less expensive than dedicated and the linodians worry about hardware, etc. |
| 12:46 | <rnowak> | !cloud |
| 12:46 | <linbot> | I'm leaving Linode for the cloud! |
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| 12:47 | <ogp> | Ok, why do people choose cloud over VPS then? |
| 12:47 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: stupidity ;) |
| 12:47 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 12:47 | <ogp> | lol |
| 12:47 | <ogp> | no i mean iseriously. im sold.. |
| 12:47 | <rnowak> | ogp: cloud is a marketing term |
| 12:47 | <ogp> | so dont worry abt it |
| 12:47 | <@irgeek> | ogp: Cloud is a marketing term. |
| 12:47 | <@irgeek> | rnowak: ^5 |
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| 12:48 | <rnowak> | ^5 |
| 12:48 | <ogp> | What's the difference between AWS and Linode, then i shld ask :) |
| 12:48 | <@irgeek> | They're more expensive and less personal. |
| 12:48 | <ogp> | lolz but service wise, no difference...scalability? |
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| 12:48 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:49 | <rnowak> | they also have a few oddities with local vs ebs storage |
| 12:49 | <ogp> | i mean lots of people choose AWS cause they think its better when a site scales. |
| 12:49 | <ogp> | vs. VPS |
| 12:49 | <@irgeek> | ogp: You can add and remove Linodes at any time. And upgrade/downgrade them. |
| 12:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:49 | <rnowak> | it isn't - AWS provides VPSs with surrounding infrastructure for certain things, just like linode does |
| 12:50 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:50 | <rnowak> | ^ |
| 12:50 | <rnowak> | it is quite funny, actually (: |
| 12:50 | <HedgeMage> | SpaceHobo++ |
| 12:50 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:50 | <linbot> | I'm leaving Linode for the cloud! |
| 12:50 | <@irgeek> | And when they crash, they start over from zero. |
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| 12:51 | <rnowak> | that works great for compute nodes, but for anything else... pita. |
| 12:51 | <ogp> | ok,,,,so isnt Linode also just 'marketing" term. lolz |
| 12:51 | <ogp> | just like "cloud" |
| 12:51 | <rnowak> | Linode is the company name? |
| 12:51 | <@irgeek> | No, that would be a proper name. |
| 12:52 | <ogp> | ok is it true most asian co. 's are using linode? |
| 12:52 | <@akerl> | wut? |
| 12:52 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:52 | <rnowak> | wat |
| 12:52 | <@irgeek> | o_O |
| 12:52 | <EugeneKay> | witty |
| 12:52 | <ogp> | Is it true? |
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| 12:52 | <@akerl> | ogp: Most cool people use Linode |
| 12:53 | <rnowak> | 92.71% of the statistics confirm. |
| 12:53 | <ogp> | lolz. fine. I do know I'm on the "LINODE" forum |
| 12:53 | <TheFirst> | i'd be willing to bet most asian companies don't even have internet presense (if you include small business) |
| 12:53 | <@Perihelion> | SpaceHobo: What was that creepy elmo cloud clip you had? |
| 12:53 | <@akerl> | TheFirst: What is a presense? |
| 12:53 | <ogp> | Ok. so what's the best package for a smaller size. |
| 12:53 | <TheFirst> | akerl: me fucking up spelling |
| 12:53 | <@akerl> | :P |
| 12:54 | <mwalling> | ogp: the smallest |
| 12:54 | <@akerl> | ogp: Start with a 512. You can resize at will if you decide to |
| 12:54 | <EugeneKay> | Linde, LLC is an American company. They offer a VPS service known as Linode, which is sold in units of "a Linode" that are measured/billed by their RAM size. |
| 12:54 | <@Perihelion> | LINDE |
| 12:54 | <TheFirst> | akerl: fluent in many languages ... never claimed english was one of them :P |
| 12:54 | <staticsafe> | Linodiaa |
| 12:54 | <EugeneKay> | +o |
| 12:54 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:54 | <ogp> | whats the cost for 512? |
| 12:54 | <@Perihelion> | LINODIAAAAAAA |
| 12:55 | <rnowak> | LINOOOOOODIA |
| 12:55 | <TheFirst> | ogp: uh, it's on the websiet? |
| 12:55 | <TheFirst> | website |
| 12:55 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:55 | <@akerl> | ogp: https://manager.linode.com/signup |
| 12:55 | <@Perihelion> | SpaceHobo: I can't :< |
| 12:55 | <@Perihelion> | Forgot my password |
| 12:55 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:55 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:55 | <linbot> | I don't often mention this, but Smart Phones (chesty owns one) are morally superior to Nokia 1100s (only pædos use them) and anyone who cares about privacy or security is a nutcase and we should all just upload backscatter scans of our bodies to Facebook™! |
| 12:55 | <ogp> | do u have 300 MB? |
| 12:55 | <@akerl> | Perihelion: You have auth'd to add commands? |
| 12:55 | <@Perihelion> | I used to |
| 12:55 | <mwalling> | ogp: they did, in 2008 |
| 12:55 | <mwalling> | ogp: it cost 19.95 back then |
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| 12:56 | <@akerl> | mwalling: That was back when dinosaurs walked the earth, right? |
| 12:56 | <@akerl> | before the last ice age |
| 12:56 | <mwalling> | akerl: urmom was there |
| 12:56 | <mwalling> | ogp: because linode is awesome, that 300 has grown to 512 |
| 12:56 | <TheFirst> | akerl: then what are the times of the 64? |
| 12:56 | <ogp> | yeah we are on dreamhost now (don't yell!) |
| 12:56 | * | HedgeMage shudders |
| 12:57 | <ogp> | doing 300mb at $15 |
| 12:57 | <TheFirst> | but I like yelling! don't take away my yelling damnit! |
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| 12:57 | <ogp> | how easy is it to move from DH to cool Linode? |
| 12:57 | <@akerl> | ogp: Exactly *this* easy |
| 12:57 | <@irgeek> | Actually, looks like we haven't had a Linode 300 since 2007. |
| 12:57 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: That depends a lot on how much you know about Linux administration. |
| 12:58 | <ogp> | DH has been down 3 days, did u guys know? |
| 12:58 | <mwalling> | irgeek: oh, thats right |
| 12:58 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: I find that kind of move (I've done it for clients in the past) extremely painless, except for jabber/xmpp migration, but I've been administering Linux since 1994. If you are a newbie, expect a learning curve. |
| 12:58 | <@irgeek> | And we haven't had a Linode 64 since 2005. |
| 12:58 | <mwalling> | irgeek: i got that linode in december 2007 |
| 12:58 | <ogp> | hmm..we are on wordpress. |
| 12:59 | <@akerl> | !library wordpress |
| 12:59 | <linbot> | akerl: 1. Manage Web Content with WordPress - http://library.linode.com/web-applications/cms-guides/wordpress | 2. Standalone MySQL Server - http://library.linode.com/databases/mysql/standalone-mysql-server | 3. Rewrite URLs with mod_rewrite and Apache - http://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache/configuration/rewriting-urls |
| 12:59 | <ogp> | any issues/consideration? |
| 12:59 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: nah, it's pretty simple to move WP sites |
| 12:59 | <ogp> | Is there a guide on how to move from DH to Linode? |
| 12:59 | <ogp> | DH has been down 3 days, it's insanity. |
| 12:59 | <HedgeMage> | that is insane |
| 12:59 | <ogp> | Can't rely on them at all. |
| 12:59 | <ogp> | Yeah only the VPS clients. |
| 13:00 | <HedgeMage> | They are BPH...what do you expect? |
| 13:00 | <ogp> | BPH? |
| 13:01 | <ogp> | Ok i need some doc on how to move from DH VPS to awesome Linode VPS 512! |
| 13:01 | <HedgeMage> | Bullet Proof Hosting -- that is, they aren't suitably aggressive in terminating the accounts of spammers, child pornographers, malware sources, etc. |
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| 13:02 | <ogp> | BPH sounds like a good thing to say tho...Bullet proof. |
| 13:02 | <ogp> | anyway.. |
| 13:02 | <ogp> | docs pls! |
| 13:02 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: Not if I'm the one trying to "shoot" them ;) (I'm a former blocklist op) |
| 13:03 | <ogp> | OK I'm moving to LINODE! |
| 13:03 | <ogp> | NOW NOW |
| 13:03 | <ogp> | :-) |
| 13:03 | <PeteMall1> | !cloud |
| 13:03 | <linbot> | I'm leaving Linode for the cloud! |
| 13:03 | <ogp> | who is thi? |
| 13:03 | <ogp> | why are u leaving? |
| 13:03 | <Nivex> | Linode IS the cloud! |
| 13:03 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: If the linode docs don't have anything for you, you can check out debianadmin.com -- they have great beginner LAMP docs -- and then I can talk you through some of the DH -> Linode specifics |
| 13:03 | <@akerl> | ogp: There isn't a specific "DreamHost to Linode" guide. Our distributions are minimal server installs, you configure them like any Linux system, full root access and such |
| 13:04 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: linbot is the bot -- a program that makes smartass remarks and occasionally says useful things |
| 13:04 | <ogp> | Yes I bet, but I'm not a fancy tech wiz like u all. |
| 13:04 | <ogp> | so I need help if u want me to move and be cool like u all |
| 13:04 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: We're very helpful, don't worry |
| 13:04 | <@irgeek> | http://linodeforecast.com/ |
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| 13:05 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: pick debian as your distro -- it's solid and easy to learn on. |
| 13:05 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: I'll grab links to good lamp and email tutorials, hold on |
| 13:05 | * | akerl grabs is Arch flag |
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| 13:05 | <@akerl> | s/is/his/ |
| 13:05 | * | mwalling burns it |
| 13:05 | <ogp> | thanks!! |
| 13:05 | <@akerl> | pacman -Syu water |
| 13:05 | * | rnowak pours extra petrol on it and sees it flame apart |
| 13:05 | <ogp> | u guys are coo. |
| 13:05 | <ogp> | l |
| 13:05 | * | rnowak highfives mwalling |
| 13:06 | <Wolfy> | Hey, are all Linodes hosted using "Xen PV"? |
| 13:06 | <ogp> | Ok, I need like step by step. I mean, like a 5 year olds iinstruction manual. |
| 13:06 | <@akerl> | rnowak: I live in America. We don't have "petrol" here |
| 13:06 | <squircle> | Wolfy: they're all xen |
| 13:06 | <rnowak> | akerl: pff |
| 13:06 | <@irgeek> | It's xen all the way down. |
| 13:07 | <ogp> | have you guys ever had bad outages? |
| 13:07 | <mwalling> | ogp: status.linode.com |
| 13:07 | <Wolfy> | I was thinking "Xen PV" compared to "Xen HVM" |
| 13:07 | <ogp> | ok |
| 13:07 | <mwalling> | ogp: almost all of the outages were confined to a single datacenter at worst, and there are 6 data centers to choose from |
| 13:07 | <rnowak> | it makes little difference to operating systems that like being paravirtualized and are told about it |
| 13:08 | <squircle> | Wolfy: it's all paravirt (PV) afaik |
| 13:08 | <CaptObviousman> | !cloud |
| 13:08 | <linbot> | I'm leaving Linode for the cloud! |
| 13:08 | <@akerl> | I tried to tell linbot that he was virtualized. He didn't like it |
| 13:08 | <HedgeMage> | akerl: I like Arch, too, (if I must settle for a binary distro) but it's really not for first-timers |
| 13:09 | <ogp> | hw many data centers does slicehost or dh have? |
| 13:09 | <@akerl> | HedgeMage: Meh. The configs tend to be simpler (though you *are* expected to look at them), and the ArchWiki is <3 |
| 13:09 | <rnowak> | hey how's its signature verification going? |
| 13:09 | <rnowak> | (: |
| 13:09 | <@akerl> | rnowak: lost privkey says wut? |
| 13:09 | <mwalling> | ogp: slicehost doesn't exist, they're now "rackspace"... and it doesnt matter how many, linode's better (and first, fwiw) |
| 13:10 | <HedgeMage> | akerl: I totally agree with you, but Arch expects you to know about your system at a depth that scares most newbs |
| 13:10 | <squircle> | chromium doesn't support arch |
| 13:10 | <ogp> | but hey are rackspace + VPS |
| 13:10 | <rnowak> | lolchromium |
| 13:10 | <ogp> | will be* |
| 13:10 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: not a bad lamp tutorial for the uber-beginner: http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/debian-6-squeeze |
| 13:11 | <@akerl> | HedgeMage: Definitely. I'm a fan of the "eagle" method of learning. Push em of the cliff, they'll learn faster |
| 13:11 | <rnowak> | learning some lunix basics might be a better idea than jumping into a lamp tutorial |
| 13:11 | <@akerl> | squircle: Say what? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromium |
| 13:11 | <Wolfy> | squircle: Okay, thanks! |
| 13:11 | <TheFirst> | akerl: or die, win either way |
| 13:11 | <ogp> | no cliff. |
| 13:11 | <ogp> | tyvm |
| 13:12 | <vodka> | linuxfromscratch.org |
| 13:12 | <vodka> | an excellent cliff |
| 13:12 | <nviror> | My mysql isn't stable and randomly doesn't connect to php, please review my settings Please have a loo |
| 13:12 | <nviror> | http://pastebin.com/zT9WbiLf |
| 13:12 | <rnowak> | nviror: are you using google translate? |
| 13:12 | <@akerl> | nviror: What do your logs say? |
| 13:13 | <nviror> | rnowak, no |
| 13:13 | <nviror> | akerl, let me see |
| 13:13 | <HedgeMage> | akerl: I do that with my 9yo, but most adults are too mentally rigid for it unless they started hacking young. |
| 13:13 | <ogp> | so linode is VPS, no cloud, yes? |
| 13:13 | <rnowak> | ;| |
| 13:14 | <@akerl> | ogp: Cloud isn't a real thing |
| 13:14 | <CaptObviousman> | cloud is kind of high-conceptual |
| 13:14 | <ogp> | The disadvantage with cloud lie aws is what? |
| 13:14 | <HedgeMage> | akerl: Said 9yo, btw, could explain the Linux boot sequence (in ASL) before he could speak, did his first from-scratch no-help-from-mom Linux install at 6, spoke at his first tech conference at 7, and is now learning Python :) </mommybragging> |
| 13:14 | <CaptObviousman> | you could have cloud resources, such as a vps, delivered to you on demand |
| 13:14 | <ogp> | well i think u know what i mean. i mean EC2 |
| 13:14 | <CaptObviousman> | EC2 is a good example, you say " I want a vps right naooo" and AWS says "ok, here you go, that'll be n.xy dollars" |
| 13:14 | <ogp> | so whats the difference between Linode VPS and EC2? |
| 13:14 | * | CaptObviousman has never used EC2 |
| 13:14 | <@akerl> | HedgeMage: Nice :> Permission to brag, granted |
| 13:15 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: "cloud" is marketing department speak for "this thing that happens out there in the internet that I really can't explain well" -- so, it's not really a useful term in this context. |
| 13:15 | <CaptObviousman> | so technically, both EC2 and Linode deliver cloud services |
| 13:15 | <squircle> | akerl: ChanServ: [#chromium-support] Welcome to #chromium-support. Please specify operating system and, if using Linux, distribution. Arch is not supported. |
| 13:15 | <squircle> | akerl: *shrug* |
| 13:15 | <nviror> | akerl, Its balnk. |
| 13:15 | <CaptObviousman> | it's a Platform As A Service, or paas |
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| 13:15 | <nviror> | blank* |
| 13:15 | <ogp> | ahhh...CaptObviousMan! |
| 13:15 | <Nivex> | kiss my paas |
| 13:15 | * | CaptObviousman facepalms |
| 13:16 | <ogp> | so whats the difference? |
| 13:16 | <Katana> | !flip |
| 13:16 | <linbot> | (╯°□°)╯彡/(.□ . \) |
| 13:16 | <rnowak> | ... |
| 13:16 | <ogp> | and why choose VPS over EC2? |
| 13:16 | <rnowak> | what is this |
| 13:16 | <rnowak> | !troll |
| 13:16 | <linbot> | http://i.imgur.com/9c5sw.jpg |
| 13:17 | <HedgeMage> | akerl: The boot sequence explanation was the best, because I had him do it just after his 3rd birthday in response to the special ed. people who tried to tell me he didn't really have a speech problem, he just had an extremely low IQ. *rolls eyes* |
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| 13:17 | <@akerl> | nviror: If the log is blank, you need to figure out why? is it the right file? are the permissions right? Try starting mysql and see what it says |
| 13:17 | <Katana> | HedgeMage: *highfive* |
| 13:17 | <nz> | why is linode better than ec2 for webhosting? doesnt ec2 now have persistent storage |
| 13:17 | <HedgeMage> | akerl: it wasn't rehearsed or anything... I just made them wait in their office while I got my laptop to demonstrate how wrong they were. |
| 13:17 | <CaptObviousman> | ogp: having never used EC2, I cannot answer your question |
| 13:17 | * | HedgeMage highfives Katana |
| 13:17 | <Katana> | HedgeMage: I approve of your methods. :) |
| 13:18 | <CaptObviousman> | I can discuss linode's quality support and service, always providing extra features to customers even before most people ask for them |
| 13:18 | <CaptObviousman> | giving us bumps in resources for being long time customers, etc |
| 13:18 | <ogp> | <HedgeMage> why choose VPS over EC2? |
| 13:18 | <ogp> | the main reason. |
| 13:18 | <HedgeMage> | Katana: Thank you! I must admit they are mostly selfishly motivated. I'm not going to give up hacking or martial arts, so I social engineered the munchkin to do both. Now I don't need a babysitter :) |
| 13:18 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: Reliability and control. |
| 13:18 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: so, two reasons, but there they are :) |
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| 13:19 | <PeteMall1> | I'm trying to proxy all traffic to wp-admin/* from node2 to node1 (web1) so web1 is the admin master - http://pastebin.com/AYWKPHSj |
| 13:19 | <ogp> | control why? |
| 13:19 | * | CaptObviousman can speak for reliability |
| 13:19 | <PeteMall1> | can someone spot what's wrong with it? |
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| 13:19 | <@akerl> | !pitfalls PeteMall1 |
| 13:19 | <linbot> | Read the hints at http://wiki.nginx.org/Pitfalls to see how you can improve your nginx configuration. |
| 13:19 | <@akerl> | If is evil |
| 13:19 | <rnowak> | if is bad mkey |
| 13:19 | <PeteMall1> | haha… I knew that was coming |
| 13:19 | <Katana> | mowak: s/mkey/mkay/ |
| 13:20 | <ogp> | Is it because -- with EC2 there is a change of losing date on reboot? |
| 13:20 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: I haven't used EC2, but my impression of it is that they limit what I might run, they give me less freedom in assigning IPs, etc. |
| 13:20 | <CaptObviousman> | anyways, time for a break, bbl |
| 13:20 | <ogp> | oh no static IP yes? |
| 13:20 | <ogp> | with EC2? |
| 13:20 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: as far as I know, but I haven't used it |
| 13:20 | <PeteMall1> | ogp: what kinda site are you running? CMS? |
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| 13:20 | <rnowak> | that's some batshit crazy rewrites there, why, I have no idea |
| 13:20 | <ogp> | Wordpress |
| 13:20 | <@akerl> | ogp: The idea of having to do complex math to discern my hosting costs always turned me off of amazon services |
| 13:21 | <Katana> | i'll say right now that many server admins I know just flat-out block EC2 ranges because of abuse |
| 13:21 | <ogp> | Yeah I also think AWS, u need to be more technocal. |
| 13:21 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: Also, most of the major blocklists have the EC2 IP blocks listed, because accounts shift IPs unpredictably so there's no other way to mitigate spam coming from EC2 |
| 13:21 | <ogp> | technical* |
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| 13:21 | <rnowak> | you need to know what the fuck you're doing with either service |
| 13:21 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 13:21 | <HedgeMage> | lol Katana great minds think alike! |
| 13:21 | <rnowak> | EC2, the new tor |
| 13:21 | <HedgeMage> | rnowak: I think that in life, in general, one should know what the fuck one is doing. |
| 13:22 | <ogp> | hmm..and the coist per resource model can really build up... |
| 13:22 | <rnowak> | HedgeMage: most certainly, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be a premise that most people operate on |
| 13:22 | <Katana> | HedgeMage: we have a ton of ec2 ip blocks that are reported to stopforumspam on a regular basis >_> |
| 13:22 | <ogp> | so is it possible for a non-tech person to manage linode? |
| 13:22 | <HedgeMage> | rnowak: "should" and "does" are very different words. |
| 13:22 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: If you are willing to learn. |
| 13:22 | <rnowak> | HedgeMage: mhm |
| 13:22 | <Katana> | ogp: possible, but you want to learn anyways so you're not flying blind. |
| 13:22 | <ogp> | well we have VPS on DH..so.. |
| 13:22 | <Katana> | otherwise if things go boom...you're SOL. |
| 13:23 | <Katana> | It would take you a long time to recover if, say, you do a blind update of something or your system's compromised |
| 13:23 | <ogp> | so i knda have an idea on how this works a bit.. |
| 13:23 | <PeteMall1> | ogp: sounds like you'll be better of going with one of the managed WordPress hosts |
| 13:23 | <ogp> | ike? wp-engine? |
| 13:23 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: Point of reference: my 9yo can do it (though I had to help him with his apache and postfix configs) -- he's literally grown up hacking (I used to code while breastfeeding), but considering that he's only been talking for 3.5 years, that does not imply a high level of difficulty to me. |
| 13:23 | <PeteMall1> | wp-engine runs on linode |
| 13:24 | <HedgeMage> | ogp: he runs Drupal, not Wordpress, though. |
| 13:24 | <ogp> | sooo is wp-engine a good option for a wp site? |
| 13:24 | <PeteMall1> | HedgeMage: he'll see the light some day |
| 13:24 | <HedgeMage> | PeteMall1: Drupal has its issues, but it's not nearly the pain that WP can be. |
| 13:24 | <rnowak> | some people need to be producers, if we all were consumers, we'd be deep in shit |
| 13:25 | <HedgeMage> | PeteMall1: that said, he's lately picked up my interest in static blogging tools |
| 13:25 | <PeteMall1> | HedgeMage: I'm a WP core dev |
| 13:25 | <ogp> | <petemail1> wp-engine? |
| 13:25 | <HedgeMage> | PeteMall1: though he hasn't been convinced that hacking on blogofile (which is very immature and in need of work) is better than just installing octopress and being done with it. |
| 13:25 | <HedgeMage> | PeteMall1: I was, in a previous life, a Drupal core dev :) So, we're probably both biased. |
| 13:25 | <Katana> | http://puu.sh/iCN2 <- why. god why. why would black be any kind of default on this style |
| 13:26 | <PeteMall1> | haha |
| 13:26 | <PeteMall1> | ogp: yes |
| 13:26 | <rnowak> | PeteMall1: so why does WP have an auto-update feature where it can overwrite itself? |
| 13:26 | <ogp> | hmm.. |
| 13:26 | <rnowak> | take it out, thnx |
| 13:26 | <ogp> | and thats linode too, wp=engine. |
| 13:26 | <@akerl> | rnowak: But there's no way that could go wrong! |
| 13:27 | <rnowak> | akerl: I know, right |
| 13:27 | <ogp> | how to move from Dreamhost to wp-engine <petemall1>? |
| 13:27 | <PeteMall1> | rnowak: we've been tinkering with doing updates in a separate location and doing some sanity checks |
| 13:27 | <@akerl> | PeteMall1: That's no better |
| 13:27 | <PeteMall1> | ogp: pay someone |
| 13:27 | <ogp> | what would it cost? |
| 13:27 | <ogp> | we are a tiny site. |
| 13:27 | <ogp> | no budget.. |
| 13:27 | <PeteMall1> | there are sanity checks in the updater |
| 13:27 | <rnowak> | PeteMall1: that's horrible, you should resign from the project, or you're supporting horrible software that implements things that are irresponsible |
| 13:28 | <PeteMall1> | rnowak: agree to disagree |
| 13:28 | <ogp> | wp-engine uses linode! so whats bad? |
| 13:28 | <PeteMall1> | let's talk linode here and you are welcome to join #wordpress-dev on freenode if you have something useful to contribute |
| 13:29 | <rnowak> | oh, so you disagree with that having an application being able to write to its own codebase without any sort of signature check is fine? oh ok then, no wonder WP is the state it is in with developers like that |
| 13:29 | <rnowak> | Nah, I'd rather just tell you that here, thanks |
| 13:29 | <Katana> | rnowak: but distributing updates over http unsigned is what all the cool projects do! |
| 13:29 | <rnowak> | Katana: ye |
| 13:30 | <PeteMall1> | rnowak: and I haven't seen an attack vector in the last couple of years where an updated WP version was hacked directly |
| 13:30 | <ogp> | GUYS..im confused. what are u talking.. |
| 13:30 | <rnowak> | WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG |
| 13:30 | <ogp> | against wp-engine or with wp-engine? |
| 13:30 | <Katana> | ogp: against wordpress itself |
| 13:30 | <ogp> | listen that doesnt help. |
| 13:30 | <ogp> | we are on wp. |
| 13:31 | <nviror> | Could anyone review my mysql config? http://pastebin.com/JuLt0bzM |
| 13:31 | <rnowak> | excuse me, do you believe that you're the single person in this channel and that we're somehow obliged to drop everything else to assist you, ogp? |
| 13:31 | <nviror> | Its on 512 and uses 3 wordpress installs + nginx |
| 13:31 | <ogp> | sooo...help with wp-engine or linode 512 |
| 13:32 | <ogp> | <nviror> sorry. |
| 13:32 | <nviror> | It doesn't create logs, I check at /var/log/mysq.err |
| 13:32 | <ogp> | i am kinda confused with the wp-engine talk |
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| 13:32 | <@akerl> | nviror: If it's not creating logs, you need to find out why. What outputs to console when you restart mysql? |
| 13:34 | <PeteMall1> | ogp: please don't PM me w/o asking |
| 13:34 | <nviror> | akerl, http://pastebin.com/Qqt97RPV |
| 13:34 | <ogp> | sorry. |
| 13:34 | <ogp> | is it ok? |
| 13:34 | <PeteMall1> | ogp: why don't you contact wpengine and ask them for help? |
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| 13:34 | <ogp> | is there any doc on how to move from dh to wp-engine? |
| 13:34 | <mwalling> | ogp: why can't you just install wordpress on a linode? |
| 13:35 | <ogp> | wp-engine is also using linode.. |
| 13:35 | <mwalling> | there is *nothing* special about linode, you don't need to include "linode" in your search terms |
| 13:35 | <@akerl> | nviror: And you don't have any files in /var/log/ that look anything like mysql? |
| 13:35 | <mwalling> | ogp: theonion uses linode too, why don't you ask them? (that is a joke to show that your statement has no relevence to this discussion) |
| 13:36 | <auraka> | mwalling: I disagree, there is a lot special about linode..... |
| 13:36 | <nviror> | akerl, I've mysql.err and /mysql/mysql.err but both blank |
| 13:36 | <auraka> | :) |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | auraka: but nothing worthy of including the word linode in your duckduckgo results |
| 13:36 | <rnowak> | nviror: huh, you have a /mysql directory? |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | all doing that is going to do is give you a headache or hide useful informaiton |
| 13:36 | <auraka> | nope |
| 13:36 | <@akerl> | nviror: Completely empty? ls and cat them, then pastebin? |
| 13:36 | <auraka> | correct |
| 13:36 | <ogp> | ok guys...thanks a lot. I 've taken up a lot of your time...appreciate the help and answers. |
| 13:36 | <ogp> | :-) |
| 13:36 | <auraka> | especially if you use ddg |
| 13:36 | <rnowak> | duckduckgo \o/ |
| 13:36 | <ogp> | Go Linodo IRC! :-) |
| 13:36 | <@akerl> | `ls -l /path/to/file' and 'cat /path/to/file' <- nviror |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | !google |
| 13:37 | <linbot> | mwalling: (google <search> [--{filter,language} <value>]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --filter accepts a filtering level ('active', 'moderate', 'off'). |
| 13:37 | <mwalling> | boo |
| 13:37 | <nviror> | akerl, did you check my mysql.cnf file i pasted? |
| 13:37 | <Katana> | !gameloss |
| 13:37 | <linbot> | Congratulations! You've lost the game! |
| 13:37 | <rnowak> | !apropos duck |
| 13:37 | <linbot> | rnowak: No appropriate commands were found. |
| 13:37 | <ogp> | Bye, thanks. |
| 13:37 | <rnowak> | laters |
| 13:37 | <mwalling> | ogp: where are you off too? |
| 13:37 | <ogp> | Thanks for your comments and advise. |
| 13:37 | <ogp> | I think I got my answer |
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| 13:38 | <nviror> | akerl, Just now i started getting errors on my terminal instead, ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 13:38 | <rl> | hey I need some help |
| 13:38 | <rl> | I can't login via ssh |
| 13:39 | <@akerl> | rl: What does LISH say? |
| 13:39 | <rl> | Permission denied, please try again |
| 13:39 | <CaptObviousman> | it says "Hi r1, how are you today?" |
| 13:39 | <rl> | hey! |
| 13:39 | <rl> | :) |
| 13:39 | <CaptObviousman> | I had tea with it recently, it's quite the conversationalist |
| 13:39 | <@akerl> | !lish <-- make sure you're using the right password? |
| 13:39 | <linbot> | LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/using-lish-the-linode-shell |
| 13:39 | <rl> | yeah... |
| 13:39 | * | CaptObviousman is helpful |
| 13:39 | <rl> | I can login to the manager |
| 13:39 | <@akerl> | rl: If you're using the right password, it won't say "permission denied" :P |
| 13:40 | <rl> | am I supposed to use a different password..? |
| 13:40 | <@akerl> | LISH password is set on remote access tab |
| 13:40 | <rl> | but what about the SSH password |
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| 13:40 | <rl> | that is above that |
| 13:40 | <rl> | in the same tab |
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| 13:40 | <@akerl> | !enter |
| 13:40 | <linbot> | IRC supports complete sentences. Less <CR> more content, please. |
| 13:40 | <rl> | I just assumed it was the same one I used to log in to manager.linode.com |
| 13:40 | <auraka> | !rtfm |
| 13:40 | <@akerl> | rl: You're connecting to LISH using SSH right? |
| 13:40 | <auraka> | aww :-/ |
| 13:41 | <nviror> | akerl, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=J1h067 |
| 13:41 | <@akerl> | nviror: linkfail |
| 13:41 | <DephNet[Paul]> | le sigh, why do people seem to think just not paying a bill is good enough to cancel a server |
| 13:41 | <rl> | akerl: not sure, actually. I'm just trying to ssh root@myipaddress |
| 13:41 | <@akerl> | rl: That's not LISH |
| 13:41 | <@akerl> | !lish |
| 13:41 | <linbot> | LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/using-lish-the-linode-shell |
| 13:42 | <mwalling> | rl: when you set up the distro, you put in a root password |
| 13:42 | <Katana> | DephNet[Paul]: ...Someone do that to you? |
| 13:42 | <mwalling> | rl: use that |
| 13:42 | <nviror> | akerl, sorry http://pastebin.com/PbSnTeVy |
| 13:42 | <@akerl> | SSH to root@your.ip uses the password you set for root when you deployed. SSH via LISH uses the password set for LISH on the remote access tab, and then root & your root pass |
| 13:43 | <DephNet[Paul]> | Katana, yeah, takes the fecking piss |
| 13:43 | <rl> | mwalling, akerl: somebody else set up the distro, I'll ask. Sorry, just thought it would be the same password I used for the manager |
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| 13:43 | <rl> | That was dumb |
| 13:43 | <@akerl> | rl: No worries :) |
| 13:43 | <@akerl> | You can reset the root password via the Rescue tab, but you need to power the Linode down first |
| 13:43 | <@akerl> | Obviously, asking them is probably preferrable, if possible |
| 13:44 | <rl> | Thank you so much, you've been very helpful :) |
| 13:44 | <DephNet[Paul]> | akerl, being helpful? well when did hell freeze? |
| 13:44 | <@akerl> | <3 |
| 13:45 | * | Katana gets the ice pick |
| 13:45 | <@akerl> | nviror: Something funky is going on. Try setting a specific log file somewhere simple in your my.conf? |
| 13:46 | <nviror> | akerl, you didn't reply, did you review my my.cnf config? I'm sure something's isn't correct there |
| 13:46 | <@akerl> | The log file problem is issue #1, and wouldn't be caused by general misconfig |
| 13:48 | <@akerl> | nviror: Take a look at LISH? |
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| 13:48 | <nviror> | akerl, I'm using putty |
| 13:48 | <@akerl> | nviror: Humor me? |
| 13:49 | <nviror> | why LISH? |
| 13:49 | <auraka> | nviror: LISH will catch log messages sent to console |
| 13:50 | <auraka> | akerl: sorry wanted to get some helper credits in here as well |
| 13:51 | <nviror> | akerl, Lot of firewall messages in LISH, http://pastebin.com/8KtwrCe7 |
| 13:52 | <@akerl> | nviror: Still on lish? |
| 13:52 | <nviror> | akerl, yes |
| 13:53 | <@akerl> | Are things becoming very clear? |
| 13:54 | <nviror> | I don't know what is happenning |
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| 13:54 | <nviror> | happening* |
| 13:55 | <@heckman> | Well, those messages look like you are blocking UDP traffic *from* you Linode |
| 13:55 | <nviror> | akerl, http://pastebin.com/dESstJGc |
| 13:55 | <nviror> | errors doesn't stop on lish |
| 13:55 | <@akerl> | "Out of memory: Kill process 8035 (mysqld) score 43 or sacrifice child |
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| 13:55 | <@akerl> | ^ very relevant |
| 13:55 | <nviror> | Its blocking to only one DEST IP: 109.74.207.72 |
| 13:56 | <@heckman> | Ah teh oom |
| 13:56 | <@heckman> | You should fix that |
| 13:56 | <rnowak> | oomkiller at your service |
| 13:56 | <rnowak> | sniped, bitch |
| 13:56 | <@heckman> | oomkiller accidentally your processes |
| 13:56 | <rnowak> | all the things |
| 13:56 | <@heckman> | I get a good chuckle when it kills things like vim and /bin/bash |
| 13:57 | <nviror> | Must have been a problem in php.ini or my.cnf |
| 13:57 | <@akerl> | Interesting question: Why are you dropping traffic to that IP? |
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| 13:57 | <nviror> | akerl, I don't know. |
| 13:57 | <@akerl> | nviror: Sounds like time to find out. pastebin 'iptables -L -nv'? |
| 13:57 | <nviror> | I've CSF/LFD, fail2ban and denyhost installed |
| 13:57 | <@heckman> | nviror: something within your Linode started to eat memory, your kernel started killing processes, and why do you have firewall rules in place randomly. o_O |
| 13:57 | <nviror> | they me be doing something |
| 13:58 | <orville> | nviror: implementing fw rules without understanding what they do isn't very wise. |
| 13:58 | <nviror> | akerl, http://pastebin.com/rVrnw8T5 |
| 13:59 | <orville> | I've been _slowly_ hardening my server and the last of the things left on my list is implementing iptables fw. because up till now, i didn't understand the rules |
| 13:59 | <@ericoc> | so long |
| 13:59 | <@akerl> | nviror: How many of those lines do you understand? |
| 13:59 | <@ericoc> | "*ICMP_OUT Blocked*" what.. |
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| 14:00 | <orville> | nviror: one of these days I hope http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch14_:_Linux_Firewalls_Using_iptables will be read and help me out :-) |
| 14:00 | <nviror> | none |
| 14:00 | <@heckman> | Why are all those firewall rules there? |
| 14:00 | <@heckman> | o_O |
| 14:00 | <nviror> | heckman, shall i disable csf and try again? |
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| 14:01 | <@heckman> | I'm just curious as to why you are running a firewall.. |
| 14:01 | <nviror> | a security measure |
| 14:01 | <@heckman> | Against what? |
| 14:01 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 14:01 | <orville> | lol |
| 14:02 | <@heckman> | Just adding a firewall doesn't increase your security... |
| 14:02 | <nviror> | Previosly my server was hacked, so this time I applied all security measures |
| 14:02 | <rnowak> | ... |
| 14:02 | <rnowak> | do you even know what the rules are doing? |
| 14:02 | <nviror> | but prevents to some extent |
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| 14:02 | <@heckman> | nviror: bad news, firewalls don't security much (if anything) |
| 14:02 | <@heckman> | s/don't/don't increase/ |
| 14:02 | <nviror> | so shall i disable it? |
| 14:03 | <@ericoc> | did you just verb security |
| 14:03 | <rnowak> | he did, sir, he did |
| 14:03 | <@heckman> | no, I accidentally a word |
| 14:03 | <rnowak> | !security |
| 14:03 | <orville> | nviror: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-fedorta-linux-iptables-firewall-configuration-tutorial/ and http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/security-policy/en-US/html-single/#id463101 and http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/OS_Protection |
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| 14:03 | <orville> | may also help. |
| 14:03 | <@ericoc> | i think i just verbed verb |
| 14:03 | <rnowak> | cyberciti.biz deeeeeeeeerp |
| 14:03 | <rnowak> | you did verb verb |
| 14:03 | <nviror> | orville, Debian here |
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| 14:03 | <orville> | one day (mayhaps tonight) I will read those. |
| 14:04 | <orville> | nviror: read. and understand. the distro doesn't matter. |
| 14:04 | <rnowak> | we call verbing something "bending" in swedish, what's the proper word for it in english? it surely isn't verbing (: |
| 14:05 | <@akerl> | rnowak: we don't really use words here. we just grunt at each other |
| 14:05 | <rnowak> | haha |
| 14:05 | <orville> | you laugh, but it's true. |
| 14:06 | <@ericoc> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_(linguistics)#Verbification |
| 14:06 | <rnowak> | welp, it is verbing |
| 14:06 | <nviror> | what should i do now? disable the csf and do manual iptables config? |
| 14:07 | <nviror> | That wouldn't solve mysql probelm, which is my priority |
| 14:07 | <@akerl> | nviror: Pastebin 'df -h' for me? and 'df -i'? |
| 14:08 | <nviror> | akerl, http://pastebin.com/BRGVQDRm |
| 14:09 | <@akerl> | :< was hoping it would be something simple. |
| 14:10 | <@akerl> | So step 1 is fix your firewall, step 2 is figure out what's using all your RAM and fix that, and step 3 is make sure mysql is logging |
| 14:10 | <rnowak> | didn't mysql get sniped? |
| 14:10 | <rnowak> | ye |
| 14:11 | <nviror> | akerl, help me fix the firewall, I would do the rest |
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| 14:12 | <@akerl> | nviror: Set all chains to ACCEPT, then flush |
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| 14:14 | <nviror> | akerl, should i disable csf too? |
| 14:16 | <nviror> | I don't know how to set all chains to accept and glush |
| 14:16 | <nviror> | flush* |
| 14:16 | <@akerl> | nviror: manpages and google are your friend :) |
| 14:16 | <nviror> | akerl, would you be my friend? |
| 14:17 | <rnowak> | sorry, he's my friend right now |
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| 14:17 | <rnowak> | we've got this monofriendship going on |
| 14:17 | <@akerl> | nviror: I was trying to be? |
| 14:17 | <rnowak> | wow, I see, if that's the way you want it |
| 14:17 | <nviror> | :) |
| 14:17 | <@akerl> | rnowak: It's not you, it's cloud |
| 14:18 | <rnowak> | :< |
| 14:20 | <nviror> | iptables -P INPUT DROP, iptables -P OUTPUT DROP <- these will accept all chains? |
| 14:21 | <@akerl> | nviror: What do you think? |
| 14:21 | <rnowak> | man iptables |
| 14:21 | <@akerl> | If you hand me an apple and I drop it on the ground, have I accepted your apple |
| 14:21 | <@akerl> | ? |
| 14:21 | <rnowak> | what if I throw it back in your face? |
| 14:21 | <rnowak> | aggressive firewalling |
| 14:22 | <@akerl> | REJECT-WITH-VIOLENCE |
| 14:22 | <rnowak> | si |
| 14:22 | <@akerl> | iptables drops the packet, and then puts out a hit on your server |
| 14:22 | <rnowak> | russian botnets pick it up and do their thing |
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| 14:24 | <nviror> | I'm still confused, how to accept all chains |
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| 14:24 | <rnowak> | nviror: man iptables |
| 14:24 | <nviror> | idk why akerl isn't telling me how to do that |
| 14:24 | <rnowak> | search for policy |
| 14:25 | <nviror> | rnowak, that's too long |
| 14:25 | <rnowak> | he is telling you how to find out for yourself instead of being spoonfed |
| 14:25 | <@akerl> | ^- that |
| 14:25 | <rnowak> | too long? why should we help you if you can't even put in some effort |
| 14:25 | <@akerl> | Learning > copying |
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| 14:35 | <nviror> | iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT and same for output and forward? |
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| 14:36 | <imMute> | akerl: I expect patches for REJECT-WITH-VIOLENCE next week :) |
| 14:37 | <nviror> | iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT and same for output and forward? and then flush? |
| 14:38 | <imMute> | that would allow all traffic, yes |
| 14:38 | <imMute> | probably not a good idea to do that on a linode though |
| 14:38 | <@akerl> | imMute: Why? |
| 14:39 | <imMute> | well turning off the firewall anywhere is probably a bad idea, linodes especially because there's no other firewall (like a NAT router at home) and they're easily scanned (and do get scanned regularly, mine do anyway) |
| 14:40 | <@akerl> | So? |
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| 14:41 | <imMute> | well if you want to run a wide open box, thats your decision, I wouldn't turn off iptables on my linode though |
| 14:42 | <@akerl> | imMute: If your box is "wide open" without a firewall, you're doing it wrong :< |
| 14:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 14:42 | <Katana> | DROP ALL THE PACKETS |
| 14:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 14:42 | <Katana> | that being said - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9459532/revert-to-pre-git-v1-7-8-git-submodule-behavior-with-submodule-filesystem-locati :( |
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| 14:43 | <imMute> | akerl: could you elaborate on that ? |
| 14:43 | <@akerl> | If something on your Linode isn't listening on a port, it's not relevant. If you are listening on it, you ought to be securing it properly. |
| 14:44 | <@akerl> | Out of all the ports, I bet you listen publically on <20 of them? |
| 14:44 | <@akerl> | Hopefully closer to <10, but we'll aim high. |
| 14:44 | <imMute> | true on the first part, but, for instance, if you want to run a service but only allow VPN traffic to it, iptables is the quickest way |
| 14:44 | <@akerl> | ? |
| 14:44 | <rnowak> | oO |
| 14:45 | <Katana> | e.g. bury PMA behind iptables by listening on a specific port that's firewalled |
| 14:45 | <rnowak> | or bind to localhost? |
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| 14:45 | <imMute> | for instance, I have postgres and samba running on my linode, but I only want to allow access to it via the OpenVPN I have setup. I suppose I could make those bind to the VPN address instead of 0.0.0.0, but I'm lazy |
| 14:46 | <@akerl> | See my above, "you're doing it wrong" |
| 14:46 | <rnowak> | so you're saying doing something properly is a bad idea, because you're lazy? oh ok |
| 14:46 | <imMute> | okay, what about programs that can't be made to listen on a specific ip? I don't have one, but for the sake of argument.. |
| 14:46 | <@akerl> | What happens if your iptables rules fail to load, are altered, etc? |
| 14:46 | <@akerl> | imMute: Use a properly written program |
| 14:46 | <rnowak> | ^ |
| 14:47 | <imMute> | well if my iptables fail to load, it defaults to dropping everything. |
| 14:47 | <@akerl> | Ouch |
| 14:47 | <imMute> | I get the point though, I'm lazy and I'm Doing It Wrong. but hey, it works for me. |
| 14:48 | <@akerl> | Out of curiousity, how are you doing that? |
| 14:48 | <@akerl> | If your iptables fails to load, what is setting the default policy to DROP? |
| 14:48 | <Katana> | echo $GIT_DIR |
| 14:49 | <Katana> | ohai wrong window |
| 14:49 | <rnowak> | ohai |
| 14:49 | <imMute> | pretty sure the init script is setup to handle that, but I'm not sure. I've never come across that failure state though. :/ |
| 14:49 | <rnowak> | assumptions are the... (: |
| 14:50 | <rnowak> | while we're being curious, which init script are you referring to? |
| 14:51 | <imMute> | and apparently it doesn't, I could have sworn it did. never mind this idiot then. |
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| 15:01 | <nviror> | where are the iptables rules saved in debian? |
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| 15:01 | <rnowak> | saved how? |
| 15:02 | <nviror> | In a tut, it says rules are saved in /etc/sysconfig/iptables |
| 15:02 | <@akerl> | nviror: I googled for the exact question you just asked, and the first hit was the answer. |
| 15:02 | <rnowak> | http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 15:02 | <rnowak> | what is google? |
| 15:02 | <rnowak> | if only someone invented a search engine |
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| 15:03 | <@akerl> | Though my friends tell me all the cool kids duck duck go |
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| 15:06 | <Katana> | aha. |
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| 15:07 | <Katana> | so it was core.worktree in the submodule that seemed to have been the cause of the pain, EugeneKay... |
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| 15:07 | <Katana> | nuked from orbit, old submodule behavior reattained >_> |
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| 15:19 | <EugeneKay> | Cool story, br0. |
| 15:19 | <EugeneKay> | I think submodules are stupid and evil and will rape kittens. So I don't use them |
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| 15:20 | <Katana> | cooler story: Han Solo's. |
| 15:20 | <Nivex> | EugeneKay: why are you talking to a bridge interface? |
| 15:21 | <EugeneKay> | Yer a Jedi, Frodo --Gurney Halleck |
| 15:27 | <Katana> | GURNEY |
| 15:27 | <Katana> | Gurney ftw. |
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| 15:49 | <pdkl> | I would like to contribute a guide on getting asp.net MVC 3 running under linux (archlinux). |
| 15:49 | <Katana> | I believe you can email it in, dunno the address though |
| 15:49 | * | Katana pokes ops |
| 15:49 | <Katana> | linode library contribution email address? |
| 15:49 | <pdkl> | archlinux + nginx + asp.net mvc 3 + postgresql (nhibernate) etc |
| 15:49 | <pdkl> | yeah thats what it said, to come in and poke an op |
| 15:50 | <rnowak> | asp.net on my lunix, umad |
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| 15:50 | <rnowak> | (does it work alright?) |
| 15:50 | <pdkl> | rnowak: asp.net MVC 3 |
| 15:51 | <pdkl> | asp.net just blows imo, mvc 3 is rails like and very powerful |
| 15:51 | <linbot> | New news from forums: lsmod shows no kernel modules in General Discussion <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8489> |
| 15:51 | <@irgeek> | http://library.linode.com/contribute |
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| 15:51 | <Einar> | I just set up my Fedora server and both Virtual hosts I set up point to the first one. What could be wrong? |
| 15:51 | <Katana> | :o Perihelion wrote that? |
| 15:51 | <Kyhwana> | Einar: you've either messed up the config somehow or.. both vhosts point to the same directory? |
| 15:52 | <Katana> | Einar: did you make sure to reload the webserver (apache, nginx...etc?) |
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| 15:53 | <pdkl> | got to love it its running at 89 megs of ram vs my java version was running 256 megs.. |
| 15:53 | <mbreslin> | java none of the things |
| 15:54 | <neok2> | Hi All, having issues with a PHP module - apc? Recently upgraded to 5.3 and I think I've got an old version of apc or something.. here's pastie of php -v and yum |grep php: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NksWuUXD |
| 15:54 | <bob2> | you rewrote the whole app, with same design and features from java to c#? |
| 15:54 | <bob2> | ha ha centos |
| 15:54 | <pdkl> | yeah |
| 15:54 | <Kyhwana> | neok2: does /usr/lib/php/modules/apc.so exist? |
| 15:55 | <bob2> | neok2, as it says, you don't have apc at all |
| 15:55 | <neok2> | Hmm.. |
| 15:55 | <neok2> | dammit I used to |
| 15:55 | <neok2> | :) |
| 15:57 | <neok2> | So if I do : pecl install apc I get - pecl/apc is already installed and is the same as the released version 3.1.9 install failed |
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| 16:03 | <brandons> | LINODE PWNZ SLICEHOST |
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| 16:03 | <bob2> | ... |
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| 16:21 | <dwfreed> | !library sftp jail |
| 16:21 | <linbot> | dwfreed: 1. Limiting Access with SFTP Jails on Debian and Ubuntu - http://library.linode.com/security/sftp-jails | 2. Transfer Files with Filezilla on Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-filezilla-ubuntu-9.10 | 3. Transfer Files with Cyberduck on Mac OS X - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-cyberduck |
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| 16:39 | <cap10morgan> | when accessing the API from a Linode, what's the best way to get data about the Linode you're calling from? For example, to ask for "my Linode ID"? |
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| 16:41 | <ogp> | considering wp-engine vs. linode. Thoughts? |
| 16:42 | <Kyhwana> | cap10morgan: hmm, interesting |
| 16:42 | <@akerl> | cap10morgan: API keys aren't tied to a specific Linode |
| 16:43 | <cap10morgan> | Kyhwana: for context, I'm working on better Linode support in Opscode Chef |
| 16:43 | <cap10morgan> | akerl: I know, but I need to detect which node is "me" out of the list of nodes the API returns. |
| 16:43 | <@akerl> | With the caveat that I haven't written anything complicated with the API for a while, I might detect by IP |
| 16:43 | <Kyhwana> | cap10morgan: I don't think there is a way to get it |
| 16:44 | <@akerl> | I'm assuming you know the node's IP. Get the IPs of your Linodes, and find yourself |
| 16:45 | <bob2> | if you want managed wordpress hosting, get managed wordpress hosting |
| 16:45 | <bob2> | if you want a vps, liiiiiinode |
| 16:45 | <cap10morgan> | akerl: AFAICT you can only list the IPs of a single Linode once you have its LinodeID |
| 16:45 | <cap10morgan> | which i don't have yet |
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| 16:47 | <@heckman> | cap10morgan: so you are trying to get the LinodeID for the Linode you are calling the API from? |
| 16:47 | <cap10morgan> | heckman: correct |
| 16:48 | <@akerl> | cap10morgan: Either grab linode.list and then iterate through linode.ip.list, or potentially label linodes in the manager with something programmatically useful |
| 16:48 | <@heckman> | ^ |
| 16:49 | <@akerl> | For instance, I name my linodes in the manager to match their hostname. Doing that, I can grab linode.list and find where label == $(hostname) |
| 16:49 | <cap10morgan> | akerl: ugh, was hoping i wouldn't have to iterate through all of them. but if that's currently the best way, it'll have to do for now. |
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| 16:49 | <cap10morgan> | and i don't want to depend on label matching, seems far too brittle |
| 16:50 | <cap10morgan> | this is intended to be a general-purpose solution for chef users, not just what gets me up and running |
| 16:50 | <cap10morgan> | ok, thanks for the tips folks |
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| 17:05 | <EugeneKay> | bob2 - where can I buy a Lying Node? |
| 17:08 | <multijoy> | that's an auto correct gone wrong! |
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| 17:12 | <@heckman> | Autocorrect gone wild? |
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| 17:22 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Mutt sending as system_user@host, not virtual user & dom in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8484> |
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| 17:23 | <SleePy2> | Anyone else having issues with fremont? again... |
| 17:23 | <aaronpk> | i was about to say... |
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| 17:24 | <dwfreed> | SleePy2: looks good from here |
| 17:24 | <Daevien> | SleePy2: heckman got bored and broke fremont probably |
| 17:24 | <aaronpk> | I can't get to it from Portland (usually goes through Seattle or San Jose) |
| 17:24 | <SleePy2> | http://pastebin.com/QsD3N0aT |
| 17:25 | <aaronpk> | SleePy2: what ISP? |
| 17:25 | <dwfreed> | There was mention of the Washington area having problems last week, too, iirc |
| 17:26 | <SleePy2> | aaronpk: Frontier |
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| 17:27 | <whatwhat> | is freemont down again? |
| 17:27 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 17:27 | <Kyhwana> | lol |
| 17:27 | <aaronpk> | not down, just inaccessible from certain portions of the internet |
| 17:27 | <Kyhwana> | !mtr-dallas fremont1.linode.com |
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| 17:27 | <whatwhat> | so normal then.... |
| 17:27 | <linbot> | Kyhwana: [mtr] fremont1.linode.com: 10 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 44.5ms (urmom) |
| 17:28 | <Kyhwana> | pastie MTRs etc |
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| 17:28 | <EugeneKay> | Dat BGP flap |
| 17:29 | <jfw> | Same problem with Fremont as the other day? |
| 17:29 | <EugeneKay> | Sounds like it |
| 17:29 | <Kyhwana> | hrgrgh |
| 17:29 | <jfw> | Dammit. |
| 17:29 | <SleePy2> | I'm getting 100% loss from HE |
| 17:29 | <pjkh> | looks like it (olympia, wa here) |
| 17:29 | <Kyhwana> | !mtr-newark fremont1.linode.com |
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| 17:29 | <linbot> | Kyhwana: [mtr] fremont1.linode.com: 11 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 83.2ms |
| 17:29 | <jfw> | I'm getting about 40$ loss |
| 17:29 | <Kyhwana> | ^ |
| 17:29 | <jfw> | 40% |
| 17:29 | <Kyhwana> | !mtr-tokyo fremont1.linode.com |
| 17:29 | <Kyhwana> | fail linbot |
| 17:30 | <@heckman> | Get me MTRs guys |
| 17:30 | <SleePy2> | Bot must be on fremont :P |
| 17:30 | <jfw> | Kyhwana: The problem the other day only affected people in WA & OR |
| 17:30 | <Kyhwana> | anyway, fremont is down, looks like a routing issue.. pastie MTRs along with which ISP/where you are |
| 17:30 | <SleePy2> | heckman: http://pastebin.com/QsD3N0aT |
| 17:30 | <aaronpk> | http://pastie.org/3475536 |
| 17:30 | <@heckman> | From your location -> 173.255.220.163 and provide external IPv4 |
| 17:30 | <EugeneKay> | heckman - You should almost teach linbot to say that :-p |
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| 17:31 | <aaronpk> | `mtr -wr 173.255.220.163` |
| 17:31 | <@heckman> | yes |
| 17:31 | <aaronpk> | From comcast portland http://pastie.org/3475547 |
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| 17:31 | <pjkh> | from olympia, wa (comcast) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=c95L17it |
| 17:32 | <SleePy2> | http://pastebin.com/BXXAJCGi - 50.123.66.229 |
| 17:32 | <jfw> | Also from Portland: http://pastebin.com/kqd0wxt4 |
| 17:32 | <SleePy2> | Ps for those who don't know, you can google "what is my ip" and it tells you ;) |
| 17:32 | <edoceo> | WA comcast: http://pastebin.com/rBkkv4ht |
| 17:32 | <aaronpk> | from fork networking (pittock building) downtown portland http://pastie.org/3475550 |
| 17:32 | <@akerl> | curl -s whatismyip.org |
| 17:32 | <jfw> | My IP: 24.20.145.178 |
| 17:32 | <edoceo> | curl http://api.edoceo.com/host |
| 17:32 | <SleePy2> | There they go |
| 17:33 | <EugeneKay> | I like mine better. http://util.khresear.ch/myip |
| 17:33 | <SleePy> | Now its working on my end at least |
| 17:33 | <Kyhwana> | looks like HE is bowing up |
| 17:33 | <Kyhwana> | hmm |
| 17:33 | <aaronpk> | I like mine better: http://pin13.net/ip oh wait, that's on my linode |
| 17:33 | <jfw> | Hah |
| 17:33 | <@heckman> | Keep em coming guys I'm going to reach out to the NOC in a moment |
| 17:33 | <Kyhwana> | what about v6? |
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| 17:34 | <edoceo> | aaronpk: oh, I like tracerout - I think I have those as /mtr and as /traceroute - but I should check |
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| 17:35 | <edoceo> | well, work stopped...smoke break! |
| 17:35 | <aaronpk> | beer break |
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| 17:36 | * | SleePy is up and running again |
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| 17:36 | <aaronpk> | and we're back |
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| 17:38 | <jfw> | Working again for me |
| 17:38 | <jfw> | Yay! |
| 17:38 | <pjkh> | and me too |
| 17:38 | <jfw> | Anyone know what happened? |
| 17:38 | <@heckman> | The incident from last week was hardware failure of a router in Seattle. |
| 17:38 | <edoceo> | probably rusted! |
| 17:38 | <@heckman> | SleePy: also helps if you can see full hostname or just IP address... |
| 17:39 | <@heckman> | chopped off hostnames are less than ideal |
| 17:39 | <dwfreed> | mtr -w FTW |
| 17:39 | <SleePy> | I'm using mtr -rc4 |
| 17:39 | <edoceo> | mtr -c8 -r -w fqdn.domain.com |
| 17:39 | <dwfreed> | SleePy: -w forces mtr to not cut of domain names like that |
| 17:39 | <dwfreed> | s/of/&f/ |
| 17:39 | <edoceo> | Win: 12.|-- oxygen.edoceo.com 0.0% 8 30.6 30.1 29.3 31.2 0.8 |
| 17:39 | <SleePy> | alright, will use it next time |
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| 17:44 | <GLaDOSDan> | !setup |
| 17:44 | <linbot> | setup is not a verb. Please see http://notaverb.com/setup |
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| 17:49 | <Kyhwana> | !urmum |
| 17:49 | <linbot> | Kyhwana: Yo mommas so fat, she doesnt handle more than 2 gigs! (778:12/5) [mmour] |
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| 17:50 | <rnowak> | !vote down 778 |
| 17:50 | <rnowak> | !urmom vote down 778 |
| 17:50 | <linbot> | rnowak: Voted down 778 [umrom] |
| 17:51 | <dwfreed> | oh, that's how you do it |
| 17:51 | <Kyhwana> | what, that doesn't make sense |
| 17:51 | <Kyhwana> | !urmum |
| 17:51 | <linbot> | Kyhwana: Yo mommas so ugly the goonies wouldnt marry her (825:5/13) [mmuor] |
| 17:51 | <Kyhwana> | !urmum vote up 825 |
| 17:51 | <linbot> | Kyhwana: Voted up 825 [mourm] |
| 17:51 | <dwfreed> | heh |
| 17:52 | * | Katana calls in an ion cannon strike on rnowak |
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| 17:54 | <Daevien> | Katana: don't anger the mowak! |
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| 18:05 | <devilspgd> | Anyone else seeing problems connecting to Fremont? |
| 18:05 | <Kyhwana> | yes |
| 18:05 | <Kyhwana> | it's a HE routing issue |
| 18:05 | <devilspgd> | Okay cool. I wasn't able to see any channel history connecting to my bouncer, lost it in a reconnect attempt. Thanks. |
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| 18:06 | * | ajmitch isn't having problems with it afaict |
| 18:06 | <SleePy> | devilspgd: http://status.linode.com/ |
| 18:07 | <devilspgd> | Yeah, that says resolved... Definitely not resolved at this point from here. |
| 18:07 | <Kyhwana> | reboot all the things! |
| 18:07 | <Kyhwana> | devilspgd: mtr -w -r |
| 18:07 | <Kyhwana> | hmm, linbot needs to post those status updates here too |
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| 18:08 | <SleePy> | Kyhwana: Doesn't help when it appears linbot is connected to a Fremont server :D |
| 18:09 | <Kyhwana> | linbot: ping |
| 18:09 | <linbot> | pong |
| 18:09 | <Kyhwana> | wfm |
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| 18:25 | <devilspgd> | FWIW, seems to be better again for the last few minutes |
| 18:26 | <mbreslin> | my fremont hosts have had 0 issues fwiw |
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| 18:28 | <devilspgd> | Seemed to mostly be traffic to the NW US, it was reachable from a couple other places |
| 18:28 | <dwfreed> | yeah, the washington/oregon area was having a lot of issues |
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| 18:31 | <EugeneKay> | Dat BGP flap |
| 18:32 | <EugeneKay> | The issue is that the carriers in question don't have flexible enough routing schemas to work around the issue |
| 18:32 | <EugeneKay> | s/issue/problem |
| 18:32 | <EugeneKay> | (you pick which) |
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| 18:42 | <CaptObviousman> | so |
| 18:43 | <CaptObviousman> | I have linode's dns servers backing up my own |
| 18:43 | <CaptObviousman> | I have AXFRs whitelisted for only their ips |
| 18:43 | <dwfreed> | I do the same thing, and I know others do as well |
| 18:43 | <CaptObviousman> | but apparently they don't |
| 18:43 | <CaptObviousman> | cause I was just able to pull my zone off of one of theirs from a different source |
| 18:44 | <dwfreed> | CaptObviousman: did you turn or AXFRs when you set up the slave zone in the manager? |
| 18:44 | <dwfreed> | s/or/off/ |
| 18:44 | <CaptObviousman> | ah there it is |
| 18:44 | <dwfreed> | :) |
| 18:44 | <CaptObviousman> | was that option always available? |
| 18:44 | <dwfreed> | Has been since I started doing slaving |
| 18:44 | <dwfreed> | But that was in December |
| 18:44 | <dwfreed> | So it could have changed before then |
| 18:48 | <dragonheart> | can you request linode multicast addresses, either dc wide or multisite, ipv4 or ipv6? just looking at corosync which uses it. |
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| 18:49 | <Kyhwana> | danblack: uh, not afaik |
| 18:49 | <dwfreed> | danblack: no, linode filters all multicast |
| 18:50 | <danblack> | i suspected as much but thanks for confirming. |
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| 18:51 | <danblack> | pitty the corosync unicast udp doco is so shit. I'll survive. |
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| 18:54 | <Katana> | i cannot type today. |
| 18:54 | <Katana> | tried four times to type "irc" |
| 18:54 | <Katana> | somehow failed three times straight |
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| 18:58 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 18:58 | <dwfreed> | Katana: lol |
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| 19:00 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 19:00 | <CaptObviousman> | mikegrb: lol |
| 19:00 | <CaptObviousman> | mikegrb: lolol |
| 19:00 | <CaptObviousman> | ah |
| 19:00 | <dwfreed> | !lulz |
| 19:00 | <dwfreed> | !lolz |
| 19:00 | <CaptObviousman> | stop your lollygagging |
| 19:00 | <CaptObviousman> | it's gotta be a bare word then |
| 19:00 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 19:00 | <dwfreed> | !apropos lol |
| 19:00 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 19:00 | <linbot> | dwfreed: lol and lolzor |
| 19:00 | <dwfreed> | !lol |
| 19:00 | <linbot> | Q: Whats the point of the lolz bot? A: To discourage the gratuitous use of the term. |
| 19:00 | <CaptObviousman> | !lolzor |
| 19:00 | <linbot> | /exec -out echo lolzor | figlet | cowsay -n |
| 19:01 | * | CaptObviousman doesn't have cowsay =( |
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| 19:01 | <CaptObviousman> | nor do I have figlet |
| 19:01 | <dwfreed> | I can get it, but it's spammy, as is figlet |
| 19:02 | <dwfreed> | figlet: program for making large letters out of ordinary text; cowsay: configurable talking ASCII cow (and other characters) |
| 19:04 | <Katana> | (╯°□°)╯彡/(.□ . \) |
| 19:04 | <dzho> | dwfreed: spammy, in what way? |
| 19:05 | <dzho> | I am not aware of it aiding in the sending of unsolicited bulk mail |
| 19:05 | <Katana> | spam isn't just bulk mail >_> |
| 19:05 | <dwfreed> | indeed |
| 19:05 | <staticsafe> | heh |
| 19:05 | * | staticsafe just switched over one of his domains to Linode NS' |
| 19:05 | <dzho> | Katana: what definition of spam do you use, then? |
| 19:06 | <dzho> | not just bulk mail, of course. |
| 19:06 | <dzho> | mailing lists are built for bulk mail, and many happily use them |
| 19:06 | <Katana> | dzho: unwanted, undesired, unsolicited communications |
| 19:06 | <dzho> | *unsolicited* bulk mail, however, is spam in most lights. |
| 19:06 | <dzho> | well, ok |
| 19:07 | <dzho> | s/mail/communication/ is fine |
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| 19:09 | <dzho> | even so, what features of figlet or cowsay make them essentially geared towards unsolicited bulk communication? |
| 19:10 | <dwfreed> | dzho: the fact that the cow takes like 7 lines? |
| 19:10 | <Katana> | also i didn't say bulk |
| 19:10 | <Katana> | ASCII art in IRC is a death sentence usually, anyways |
| 19:10 | <dzho> | Katana: no, I *said* bulk, because that's an essential feature of spam |
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| 19:10 | <Katana> | nope. |
| 19:10 | <Katana> | it just has to be junk. |
| 19:10 | <dwfreed> | Well, there's 440 people in here, so I'd call that bulk |
| 19:10 | <dzho> | you might not want my communication that I'm sending right now, but your disapproval is not sufficient to make it spam |
| 19:11 | <dzho> | dwfreed++ |
| 19:11 | <Katana> | actually, i can consider it spam |
| 19:11 | <Katana> | recourse is minimal however |
| 19:11 | <dzho> | what I'm saying right now? |
| 19:11 | <Katana> | easiest method of controlling it would be an /ignore |
| 19:11 | <dzho> | easiest methof for you take responsibility for your reaction to my disagreement, yes. |
| 19:11 | <Katana> | welcome to the world of perception and interpretation - the playing field of lawyers everywhere :) |
| 19:12 | <@akerl> | dzho: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/spam |
| 19:13 | <dzho> | akerl: sounds good to me |
| 19:13 | <Katana> | http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/ain%27t |
| 19:13 | <@akerl> | dzho: By that definition, and by the truth, bulk is not a necessary component of spam. |
| 19:13 | <rnowak> | oh oh are we having a word fight |
| 19:13 | <Katana> | ffff. |
| 19:13 | <Katana> | (╯°□°)╯彡 ┻━┻ |
| 19:14 | <@akerl> | rnowak: What else is there to fight about? |
| 19:14 | * | Katana tags rnowak in |
| 19:14 | <rnowak> | let's do this |
| 19:14 | <Katana> | your turn |
| 19:14 | <dzho> | akerl: funny, both non-meat-product definitions do include a reverence to "bulk" |
| 19:14 | <dzho> | if you want to quibble that saying it is "typical" doesn't make it "essential" then, fine. |
| 19:15 | <rnowak> | I like pie |
| 19:15 | <Katana> | rnowak likes spam pie |
| 19:15 | <@akerl> | Bulky pies? |
| 19:15 | <rnowak> | cakes too |
| 19:15 | <Katana> | spamcake! |
| 19:15 | <dzho> | CaptObviousman: anyway, depending on how you roll, you might find figlet and cowsay fun to play with. |
| 19:15 | <Katana> | SPAM SPAM SPAM BAKED BEAN SPAM SPAM SAUSAGE AND SPAM |
| 19:15 | <dzho> | just not, you know, for posting things to #linode :-) |
| 19:16 | <dzho> | of course |
| 19:16 | <dzho> | !pastebin |
| 19:16 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 19:16 | <dzho> | isn't just for ASCII art |
| 19:17 | <Katana> | !alias add spam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_eYSuPKP3Y |
| 19:17 | <linbot> | Katana: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:17 | <CaptObviousman> | did we really get into a pedantic argument over the definition of spam? |
| 19:17 | <rnowak> | fail |
| 19:17 | <CaptObviousman> | dear god folks, go get laid or something |
| 19:17 | <Katana> | hey it's more entertaining then work |
| 19:18 | <CaptObviousman> | it's spammy =) |
| 19:18 | <dzho> | CaptObviousman: pssst, I heard vim is spammy |
| 19:18 | <Kyh_> | dzho: ITYM emacs |
| 19:18 | * | CaptObviousman will vim YOUR spammy |
| 19:18 | <dzho> | Kyh_: well played |
| 19:18 | <Katana> | Kyh_: itym Eclipse |
| 19:18 | <dzho> | $VISUAL is spammy |
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| 19:18 | <rnowak> | I heard emacs' circular kernel message buffer is spammy |
| 19:18 | <Kyh_> | I heard fremont is spammy |
| 19:19 | <rnowak> | I heard urmom likes spam |
| 19:19 | <Kyh_> | !urmum |
| 19:19 | <linbot> | Kyh_: Yo mommas so fat, she IS the global obesity crisis (816:11/0) [moumr] |
| 19:19 | <Katana> | !urmom |
| 19:19 | <dzho> | I was just wondering how long that would take. |
| 19:19 | <linbot> | Katana: Yo mommas so old shes almost as old as pparadis! (795:10/12) [umrmo] |
| 19:19 | <Katana> | oh hey that's aliased |
| 19:19 | <Katana> | !urmom vote up 816 |
| 19:19 | <linbot> | Katana: Voted up 816 [momru] |
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| 19:20 | <rnowak> | dzho: how is it up there on the high horse? |
| 19:21 | <dzho> | rnowak: excuse me? |
| 19:21 | <rnowak> | I'm yet to see you comment on anything when it doesn't include you being able to be a smartass |
| 19:21 | <rnowak> | you're excused |
| 19:21 | <dzho> | wow |
| 19:21 | <dzho> | apology accepted |
| 19:22 | <dzho> | because, you know, being on a high horse, and being a smartass . . . which is it? |
| 19:22 | <dwfreed> | Can't we all just get along? |
| 19:22 | <dzho> | I have a serious point, but I suppose you can play it how you like--sitting on a stick, or slap-ass. |
| 19:23 | <Katana> | !gameloss dzho rnowak |
| 19:23 | <linbot> | Congratulations! You've lost the game! |
| 19:23 | <dzho> | anyway, I'm sorry you're having such a bad day rnowak |
| 19:23 | <dwfreed> | !game |
| 19:23 | <linbot> | You just lost. |
| 19:23 | <Kyh_> | !rr |
| 19:23 | <linbot> | Kyh_: *click* |
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| 19:24 | <rnowak> | dzho: don't be so butthurt, k |
| 19:24 | <dzho> | heh. |
| 19:24 | <dwfreed> | !plugin roulette |
| 19:24 | <linbot> | dwfreed: The "roulette" command is available in the Games plugin. |
| 19:27 | <rnowak> | !rr |
| 19:27 | <linbot> | rnowak: *click* |
| 19:27 | <dwfreed> | !rr |
| 19:27 | <linbot> | dwfreed: *click* |
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| 19:33 | <squircle> | !rr |
| 19:33 | <linbot> | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 19:33 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 19:33 | <squircle> | win |
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| 20:03 | <NdFeB> | !rr |
| 20:03 | <linbot> | NdFeB: *click* |
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| 20:16 | <dzho> | !rr |
| 20:16 | <linbot> | dzho: *click* |
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| 21:37 | <PeteMall1> | posted this earlier today but here it goes. I'm trying to proxy all traffic to wp-admin* to a different node (web1) - http://pastebin.com/tsFwX4Q6 |
| 21:37 | <PeteMall1> | what am I doing wrong? |
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| 21:41 | <danblack> | PeteMall1: the /wp-admin is a regex therefore location ~ /wp-....... |
| 21:41 | <PeteMall1> | thanks danblack |
| 21:41 | <PeteMall1> | extra set of eyes always help |
| 21:41 | <danblack> | either than or remove the regex bit at the end could work also |
| 21:42 | <dwfreed> | Yeah, no point in doing a regex in that case |
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| 21:42 | <kiteplans> | hey anyone online? |
| 21:42 | <dwfreed> | !ask |
| 21:42 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 21:43 | <kiteplans> | I wanted to ask more about the linode packages... |
| 21:43 | <danblack> | then ask |
| 21:43 | <kiteplans> | but I dont know if this is the best place to ask |
| 21:43 | <dwfreed> | !ops |
| 21:43 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
| 21:44 | <dwfreed> | Most of us here know about the plan info |
| 21:44 | <kiteplans> | If I were to get a VPS 512MB for example... |
| 21:44 | <kiteplans> | does that include any kind of burst ram? |
| 21:44 | <dwfreed> | No |
| 21:44 | <Kyhwana> | nope. You get all 512MB and no more |
| 21:44 | <dwfreed> | You get 512 MB of ram to use all the time |
| 21:45 | <PeteMall1> | dwfreed: danblack: location /wp-admin/ { … } should do it? |
| 21:45 | <dwfreed> | PeteMall1: yeah |
| 21:45 | <kiteplans> | so no burst... |
| 21:45 | <Kyhwana> | Nope |
| 21:45 | <kiteplans> | do you know if extra ips in japan is also $1 per Ip? |
| 21:45 | <dwfreed> | kiteplans: yes |
| 21:45 | <dwfreed> | !extras |
| 21:45 | <linbot> | Available extras: Disk: $ 1 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IPv4 addresses: $ 1 per address/month. To add extras, visit the Extras tab on a Linode. |
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| 21:46 | <jmc> | Need help with moving Dreamhost VPS to Linode VPS. |
| 21:46 | <Kyhwana> | !ask |
| 21:46 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 21:46 | <jmc> | Very simple instructions |
| 21:47 | <EugeneKay> | You.... move. That's about it, really. |
| 21:47 | <kiteplans> | great stuff - so is there almost always just people hanging out here while working? thats awesome! |
| 21:47 | <EugeneKay> | !library lamp |
| 21:47 | <linbot> | EugeneKay: 1. Build a LAMP Server on a Linode - http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides | 2. Set up a LAMP Server on Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric) - http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-11.10-oneiric | 3. Set up a LAMP Server on Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) - http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-11.04-natty |
| 21:48 | <EugeneKay> | Configure the system, copy your Apache/MySQL/PHP configs, move your data, switch over the IP address/DNS. |
| 21:48 | <kiteplans> | another question - I am currently running Centos 5.7 - would you say I should run something else on linode or stick with that? |
| 21:48 | <dzho> | kiteplans: often enough, yeah |
| 21:48 | <EugeneKay> | That's about it. |
| 21:48 | <jmc> | I am not tech person.. |
| 21:48 | <Kyhwana> | jmc: who manages your dreamhost vps now? |
| 21:48 | <PeteMall1> | dwfreed: wp-admin/edit.php is still being served from web2 |
| 21:48 | <PeteMall1> | not proxying to web1 |
| 21:48 | <EugeneKay> | kiteplans - The Cool Kids (tm) run Arch or Ubuntu or something. I use Scientific Linux 6(.2, I think is the current), which is the same thing as CentOS 6, but by CERN instead of some drunk brit. |
| 21:49 | <jmc> | it's running on a shared server |
| 21:49 | <Kyhwana> | !arch |
| 21:49 | <linbot> | OMFG I'M NOT GOING NEAR ARCH |
| 21:49 | <EugeneKay> | If you know Red Hat/CentOS then you should stick with a RH-derivative. I believe Linode has a CentOS6 image available. |
| 21:49 | <jmc> | can i pm you? |
| 21:49 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 21:49 | <kiteplans> | LOL! - <linbot> OMFG I'M NOT GOING NEAR ARCH |
| 21:49 | <Kyhwana> | no |
| 21:49 | <EugeneKay> | Depends what for. ;-) |
| 21:49 | <rnowak> | EugeneKay likes happy endings |
| 21:50 | <Kyhwana> | linode (at the moment) is unmanaged, you get to do everything yourself. |
| 21:50 | <jmc> | I needd someone to guide me with moving fromdh vps to linode vps :-s |
| 21:50 | <jmc> | if linode vps is a happy ending, then yes! |
| 21:50 | <kiteplans> | and have any of you guys been able to get l2tp to work on linode? I have never been able to get that thing to work! |
| 21:50 | <rnowak> | !library migrate |
| 21:50 | <linbot> | rnowak: 1. Migrate a Server to Your Linode - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/migration/migrate-server-to-linode | 2. Migrate Disk Images and Linode Instances - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/migration | 3. Resize a Linode - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/manager/resize |
| 21:50 | <rnowak> | jmc: #1 ^ |
| 21:50 | <EugeneKay> | Sounds like you need paid support. I do that, but you probably won't like my rates. |
| 21:51 | <jmc> | yikes.. |
| 21:51 | <jmc> | what are your rates? |
| 21:51 | <jmc> | DH has been down for 3 days guys,, its armegeddon here! |
| 21:52 | <EugeneKay> | See PM |
| 21:52 | <dwfreed> | PeteMall1: use location ^~ /wp-admin/ { settings; } |
| 21:52 | <kiteplans> | and have any of you guys been able to get l2tp to work on linode? I have never been able to get that thing to work! |
| 21:52 | <PeteMall1> | thanks dwfreed, trying it now |
| 21:53 | <rnowak> | kiteplans: works fine, simple as butter |
| 21:53 | <dzho> | wow, and I thought slicehost/rackspace's ~20 hr outage was bad, recently. |
| 21:53 | <EugeneKay> | kiteplans - nope, but OpenVPN works grand |
| 21:53 | <kiteplans> | rnowak - what OS do you use? |
| 21:53 | <rnowak> | kiteplans: debian stable |
| 21:54 | <kiteplans> | I always use OpenVPN as well - love it!!! but I need some l2tp sometimes |
| 21:54 | <rnowak> | what software are you having issues with? |
| 21:54 | <PeteMall1> | dwfreed: that seems to have done the trick |
| 21:55 | <kiteplans> | so I am planning on moving to a Japan server - from a 1GB Ram with 1extra GM burst ram - OpenVZ VPS to Linode - I need to just decide on how much ram I need - I wont be moving all my sites - just a few Joomla sites - really really large with about 100 000 hits a month |
| 21:56 | <kiteplans> | I have been running on some XENs in the past and its just so much better than OpenVZ - and seem to be able to get away with less ram |
| 21:56 | <rnowak> | really really large, 100k hits a month - cute (: |
| 21:56 | <Kyhwana> | kiteplans: you can always upgrade, it takes a reboot and 10-60minutes for the migration, but your upgraded then just comes up and off you go |
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| 21:57 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 21:57 | <kiteplans> | rnowak: LOL - the sites are large, traffic is not that much yet |
| 21:57 | <EugeneKay> | kiteplans - start with 512MB, resize if you need to. |
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| 21:58 | <kiteplans> | @ rnowak - what is your largest site doing now in Hits a month? |
| 21:58 | <rnowak> | kiteplans: define hits |
| 21:58 | <rnowak> | kiteplans: define site |
| 21:59 | <rnowak> | !bob2 | kiteplans |
| 21:59 | <linbot> | anti-php evangelist who believes irc is not twitter! |
| 21:59 | <rnowak> | damnit amitz, for screwing that trigger up |
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| 22:00 | <kiteplans> | unique visitors who visit your site for at least 2 minutes and view at least 2 pages - on a normal Joomla websites |
| 22:00 | <kiteplans> | and with largest I mean most popular... |
| 22:00 | <rnowak> | I don't do "a normal Joomla websites" |
| 22:01 | <rnowak> | how do you measure most popular? |
| 22:01 | <kiteplans> | your busiest |
| 22:01 | <rnowak> | define busiest |
| 22:01 | <kiteplans> | website that pulls the most traffic in a month... |
| 22:01 | <rnowak> | what sort of traffic, people, search engines, raw transfer? |
| 22:02 | <kiteplans> | people |
| 22:02 | <rnowak> | around 0 |
| 22:02 | <rnowak> | maybe 1 |
| 22:02 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 22:02 | <kiteplans> | lol |
| 22:02 | <rnowak> | do I count myself btw? |
| 22:02 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 22:02 | <kiteplans> | LOL!! |
| 22:02 | <rnowak> | if so 1, maybe 2, otherwise 0 |
| 22:03 | <kiteplans> | so what kind of server do you run then? and for what purpose? |
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| 22:03 | <rnowak> | my linode is used for irssi, and just random file hosting left and right |
| 22:03 | <kiteplans> | btw - thanks for the chat and info guys! |
| 22:03 | <kiteplans> | cool! |
| 22:04 | <jmc> | Anyone here wanna help us move from Dreamhost VPS to Linode VPS? |
| 22:04 | <jmc> | It's a wordpress site. |
| 22:04 | <rnowak> | !library migrate |
| 22:04 | <linbot> | rnowak: 1. Migrate a Server to Your Linode - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/migration/migrate-server-to-linode | 2. Migrate Disk Images and Linode Instances - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/migration | 3. Resize a Linode - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/manager/resize |
| 22:04 | <rnowak> | jmc: ^ #1 |
| 22:04 | <rnowak> | if you're looking for someone doing it for you as a service, you may want to look at the forums - there are a few people there that offer paid services |
| 22:04 | <jmc> | But want to know specifics related to wp migration |
| 22:05 | <jmc> | Need someone asap... |
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| 22:06 | <kiteplans> | so I could setup swap as a kind of burst memory... |
| 22:07 | <rnowak> | no, you most certainly could not |
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| 22:08 | <PeteMall1> | kiteplans: set up 0 for swap |
| 22:08 | <rnowak> | it is several magnitudes slower, and you do not want to be swap thrashing |
| 22:08 | <Kyhwana> | kiteplans: if you hit swap a lot it will kill your site responiveness. (Since it's going to be hitting IO a lot) |
| 22:08 | <kiteplans> | thanks guys... |
| 22:09 | <kiteplans> | PeterMall1 - what do you mean 0? |
| 22:09 | <kiteplans> | as on 0MB? |
| 22:09 | <kiteplans> | as in 0MB? |
| 22:10 | <monokrome> | PeteMall1: If you didn't create any swap space - what do you plan on happening if you run out of RAM? :/ |
| 22:10 | <rnowak> | I'd keep the default, just to swap out rarely used applications, lunix loves its FS cache |
| 22:10 | <rnowak> | oomkiller, at your service |
| 22:11 | <rnowak> | if my services are so badly configured that they cause oom, I deserve the server to go down |
| 22:12 | <kiteplans> | one thing I have always wanted to ask - once you have your server setup LAMP DNS and what not- with lets say 1GB RAM - would you setup your services to use most of that ram? |
| 22:13 | <kiteplans> | or would you use only have or 75% or what? |
| 22:13 | <rnowak> | do not underestimate the greatness of the filesystem cache |
| 22:13 | <bob2> | irc is not bloody twitter |
| 22:13 | <Kyhwana> | !linuxatemyram |
| 22:13 | <bob2> | jmc, oh, you're looking to hire someone? |
| 22:13 | <linbot> | http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 22:13 | <Kyhwana> | wait |
| 22:14 | <Kyhwana> | oh, there goes linbot |
| 22:14 | <dwfreed> | !ping |
| 22:14 | * | Kyhwana pokes linbot "Why are you so slow? |
| 22:14 | <dwfreed> | linbot is being slow |
| 22:14 | <jmc> | yes <bob2> |
| 22:14 | <linbot> | pong |
| 22:14 | <jmc> | pm me |
| 22:14 | <bob2> | no |
| 22:14 | <Nivex> | pm urmom |
| 22:14 | <bob2> | maybe you want to move to a wordpress hosting service instead |
| 22:14 | <jmc> | ;p; |
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| 22:15 | <jmc> | well yeah but thats not as easy..cause we need to be on the latest wp version |
| 22:15 | <jmc> | and we are not. |
| 22:15 | <Kyhwana> | So move to a host that does keep up with the latest wordpress releases |
| 22:15 | <Kyhwana> | Which they should all be doing anyway, otherwise they'll get hax0r3d |
| 22:15 | <jmc> | wp-engine is the main one. |
| 22:15 | <jmc> | they won't do code changes |
| 22:16 | <jmc> | and upgrade us to wp 3.3 we are on wp 3.1 |
| 22:16 | <jmc> | sooo...wp-engine is not a quick solution right now <bob2> |
| 22:17 | <bob2> | er |
| 22:17 | <rnowak> | @bob2 ye |
| 22:17 | <bob2> | I don't really think 'run unsupported wp version' is an excellent plan |
| 22:17 | <bob2> | get rid of the unmaintained plugins you use |
| 22:17 | <Kyhwana> | waitwait |
| 22:17 | <jmc> | ugh..:-s |
| 22:18 | <Kyhwana> | I think he says he wants to be on 3.3.1 but wp-engine is still on 3.1? |
| 22:18 | <Katana> | that's managed hosting for you |
| 22:18 | <Katana> | ack, ctrl key keeps screwing up |
| 22:18 | <bob2> | I'm pretty sure jmc means they run totally unmaintained plugins, or got some custom crap done and never kept it up to date |
| 22:18 | <jmc> | Ok, we are on wp 3 and wp-engine wont move us unless we are on the latest version.. ie. wp 3.3 (i think) |
| 22:18 | <jmc> | make sense? |
| 22:19 | <kiteplans> | thanks for the linixatemyram link - so I am running on a 1.5GB ram server now and have 945MB free... |
| 22:19 | <bob2> | why are you on an unmaintained version of wordpress |
| 22:19 | <Kyhwana> | OK, that's not what I just said then. In which case do what bob2 said |
| 22:19 | <Kyhwana> | kiteplans: free RAM is wasted RAM |
| 22:19 | <jmc> | we are on unmaintained because our core is custoomized :-s |
| 22:20 | <rnowak> | !failhorn |
| 22:20 | <rnowak> | !fail |
| 22:20 | <linbot> | http://www.failhorn.com/ |
| 22:20 | <rnowak> | ^ |
| 22:20 | <kiteplans> | Kyhwana: what about when you have real peaks in traffic? dont you need extra ram to manage that? |
| 22:20 | * | Katana heads for bunker |
| 22:20 | <Kyhwana> | !table |
| 22:20 | <linbot> | (╯°□°)╯彡 ┻━┻ |
| 22:20 | <jmc> | i know...i know...its bad but thats how it is now...we were in the middle of a theme update and bloody DH crashed and now we need to move servers |
| 22:20 | <rnowak> | you were developing on a production server? |
| 22:20 | <Kyhwana> | kiteplans: then linux uses the ram it's using for filesystem cache for more important stuff |
| 22:20 | <danblack> | Kyhwana: I hope you're joking "free ram is wasted ram". Diskcache and extra peaks are great uses for ram |
| 22:20 | <bob2> | that sounds like lies |
| 22:20 | <jmc> | yes |
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| 22:20 | <rnowak> | what could possibly go wrong |
| 22:21 | <bob2> | you don't "need" to move because "dh crashed" |
| 22:21 | <jmc> | what? |
| 22:21 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 22:21 | <dwfreed> | rnowak: lol |
| 22:21 | <Kyhwana> | danblack: what? |
| 22:21 | <jmc> | <bob2> DH has been down for VPS clients for 3 days |
| 22:21 | <jmc> | its the worst kind of outage they have ever had. |
| 22:21 | <NdFeB> | Dreaming of uptime |
| 22:21 | <jmc> | We want out and move to linode cause its more reliable |
| 22:21 | <Kyhwana> | danblack: ^ as above on linuxatemyram, free ram is wasted ram, you want it used for disk cache if it's not doing anything |
| 22:22 | <kiteplans> | Kyhwana: ok I understand |
| 22:22 | <jmc> | whats there to lie? |
| 22:22 | <bob2> | hirez url |
| 22:22 | <jmc> | <bob2>? |
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| 22:22 | <dzho> | jmc: moving to linode from shared hosting is a bit like renting a general aviation plane because the airlines are unreliable. |
| 22:22 | <danblack> | Kyhwana: ok. missed the context a bit |
| 22:22 | <bob2> | jmc, where's the 3-days-of-downtime outage notice from DH? |
| 22:22 | <rnowak> | I like that analogy |
| 22:22 | <Kyhwana> | jmc: you were doing development on a production site? |
| 22:22 | <bob2> | I find that very hard to believe |
| 22:22 | <rnowak> | it didn't involve cars either |
| 22:23 | <dzho> | rnowak: barely a step up from cars, but thanks all the same. |
| 22:23 | <jmc> | <bob2> go see dreamhost status |
| 22:23 | <Katana> | sadadasddasds |
| 22:23 | <jmc> | besides whats the poiint of this? |
| 22:23 | <Katana> | erm, sorry. |
| 22:23 | <rnowak> | dzho: that was a subtle sorry for before |
| 22:23 | <dzho> | rnowak: seriously, thanks. it's all good. |
| 22:23 | <rnowak> | <3 |
| 22:23 | <bob2> | jmc, that's what I'm reading |
| 22:24 | * | caker is a pilot |
| 22:24 | <Katana> | btw, if you want a horror show, take the keys off of your keyboard. |
| 22:24 | <Katana> | SO MUCH HAIR |
| 22:24 | <dzho> | latest I'm finding from a simple-minded web search of the news about dreamhost is a couple of weeks old |
| 22:24 | <Kyhwana> | http://status.dreamhost.com/ |
| 22:24 | <dwfreed> | caker: I have some posters you'll like; got a instrument panel shot of a Cessna 182 |
| 22:24 | <jmc> | so read guys, its insanity at dh. |
| 22:25 | <@caker> | dwfreed: I start my training in a 182 this week :) |
| 22:25 | <rnowak> | caker: I will be joining you in the ranks of pilots around end of year, iirc \o/ |
| 22:25 | <Kyhwana> | jmc: anyway, whats so hard? Just spin up a linode, setup the lamp stuff, copy your code over and bam, off you go |
| 22:25 | <dwfreed> | caker: nice |
| 22:25 | <@caker> | rnowak: nice!! |
| 22:25 | <Kyhwana> | (and then get haxed if you haven't been pulling the security fixes from the current releases back) |
| 22:25 | <@caker> | rnowak: where are you flying out of, and in what? |
| 22:25 | <Katana> | heh |
| 22:25 | <jmc> | <kyhwana> ffor a non-tech person its not so easy :-s |
| 22:25 | <Katana> | wasn't there a string of hackings of WP 3.2 installs lately anyways? |
| 22:26 | <Katana> | and god forbid if you had timthumb anywhere on your server |
| 22:26 | <Kyhwana> | Katana: yup |
| 22:26 | <jmc> | I'm concerned about emails, db, etc. --- so we move it all? |
| 22:26 | <PeteMall1> | Katana: no 3.2 related hacks |
| 22:26 | <PeteMall1> | timthub yes |
| 22:27 | <Kyhwana> | jmc: er, if you're moving from dreamhost, then yeah? Including any DNS stuff you have and so on |
| 22:27 | <Katana> | http://labs.m86security.com/2012/01/massive-compromise-of-wordpress-based-sites-but-%E2%80%98everything-will-be-fine%E2%80%99/ errrr |
| 22:27 | <Kyhwana> | But your best shot would be the forums, to find someone to do the work for you, but it won't be free |
| 22:28 | <PeteMall1> | Katana: WP was not the source of the hack for that attack vector |
| 22:28 | <dzho> | caker: had a late in-law that flew every chance he could get, from the grass strip next to his house |
| 22:28 | <PeteMall1> | it was related to a plugin iirc |
| 22:28 | <bob2> | if you have no idea what you're doing, it's a terrible idea to try to |
| 22:28 | <Katana> | why uploads are being served directly in the first place is beyond me |
| 22:28 | <bob2> | move from dreamhost to an unmanaged vps |
| 22:28 | <jmc> | huh? |
| 22:28 | <rnowak> | caker: no idea in what yet, will be discussing everything in a few days - and not sure what you mean with out of? Will be the very first certificate that you can get for small planes |
| 22:29 | <jmc> | what are u talking about <bob2>? |
| 22:29 | <dzho> | went up once in each of his cloth-covered tail-dragger trainer and low-wing twin-engine cruiser |
| 22:29 | <@Praefectus> | rnowak: where are you flying out of, as in what airport |
| 22:29 | <jmc> | <kyhwana> can we pm for like 2 mins? |
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| 22:30 | <bob2> | jmc, you need to find a managed hosting company |
| 22:30 | <Kyhwana> | no.. I don't offer paid services.. and as bob2 said, moving from managed to unmanaged VPS if you don't know what you're doing (and don't have the time/patience/ability to learn) is a bad idea |
| 22:30 | <bob2> | or an admin to do all this for you |
| 22:30 | <bob2> | and to set up a dev instance of wordpress |
| 22:30 | <@caker> | dzho: it is quite wonderful. Through-the-fence airport access is about my ultimate dream :) |
| 22:31 | <@caker> | rnowak: awesome. Yeah - let me know how it goes |
| 22:31 | <jmc> | <bob2> is linode not a managed hosting co.? |
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| 22:31 | <@caker> | jmc: Linode is self-managed. |
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| 22:31 | <rnowak> | caker, Praefectus: the "flight school", whatever you'd call it, is using ESME, Eslov, outside of Malmo, in Sweden |
| 22:32 | <Kyhwana> | jmc: nope, linode does un managed VPSes |
| 22:32 | <jmc> | ok so what options do we have? |
| 22:32 | <jmc> | besides linode? |
| 22:32 | <jmc> | for a managed hosting co.? |
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| 22:32 | <jmc> | not shitty like DH |
| 22:33 | <Craighton> | Is there a way to retrieve a specific file from a backup? |
| 22:33 | <Kyhwana> | I'm sure there's loads of managed hosters |
| 22:33 | <bob2> | Craighton, restore the backup, mount, cp |
| 22:33 | <dzho> | jmc: thing is, DH seemed fine until they hit this recent wall, right? |
| 22:33 | <jmc> | ughhh... |
| 22:33 | <jmc> | 3 days going on 4! is not a WALL :-S |
| 22:33 | <dzho> | whatever you want to call it. |
| 22:33 | <Craighton> | ugh I don't want to restore because I'll lose too much - oh well I'll just start over |
| 22:34 | <jmc> | SOOO..we cant trust them anymore.. |
| 22:34 | <bob2> | jmc, url for outage notification from 3 days ago? |
| 22:34 | <@Perihelion> | Craighton: You can't shrink your disk image down and restore to the linode? |
| 22:34 | <bob2> | Craighton, ? |
| 22:34 | <rnowak> | caker: if you don't mind, how long did it take you to get the certificate? I will be looking at craming in as many hours as possible during the summer |
| 22:34 | <bob2> | Craighton, you can restore to another linode, or if you have enough space, to an existing one |
| 22:34 | <Craighton> | ah I guess I could do that |
| 22:34 | <Craighton> | good point |
| 22:35 | <jmc> | <bob2> i'll give u better, its been happening since the 23rd: http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/ |
| 22:35 | <jmc> | <Kyhwana> can u gimme some examples that are better reputed than DH? |
| 22:35 | <dzho> | bob2: Kyhwana also posted a status URL above. Looks like quite the horror. |
| 22:35 | <bob2> | jmc, I don't see anywhere that suggests anything has been down for 3 days |
| 22:35 | <mwalling> | stop wrapping in < > |
| 22:36 | <rnowak> | exactly what bob2 said |
| 22:36 | <Kyhwana> | nope, I don't use managed hosting, so I don't know |
| 22:36 | <mwalling> | bob2: he's the second one today to say the same thing |
| 22:36 | <bob2> | ok |
| 22:36 | <jmc> | <bob2> u are not v smart. |
| 22:36 | <bob2> | I guess I don't care |
| 22:36 | <bdube> | rnowak: do that, it helps a lot and saves money |
| 22:36 | <bob2> | jmc, ok |
| 22:36 | <bob2> | jmc, thx |
| 22:36 | <jmc> | what about slicehost vs. dreamhost? or hostmonster |
| 22:37 | <mwalling> | jmc: slicehost is a knockoff of linode |
| 22:37 | <jmc> | so self-managed i guess... |
| 22:37 | <@Perihelion> | And is really Rackspace |
| 22:37 | <mwalling> | (who sold out to rackspace) |
| 22:37 | <dzho> | slicehost is unmanaged, and also . . . what Perihelion said. |
| 22:37 | <dzho> | I've known people to use bluehost and knownhost |
| 22:37 | <jmc> | we want managed for sure. what about hostmonster and liquiid web? |
| 22:38 | <mwalling> | jmc: you see the top of your window says "Linode community support" right? |
| 22:38 | <@Perihelion> | You may want to try looking on webhostingtalk (it's a forum) |
| 22:38 | <jmc> | DREAMHOST sucks... |
| 22:38 | <@Perihelion> | You're going to get a lot of biased opinions here :) |
| 22:38 | <rnowak> | and it all agrees with that Perihelion is awesome |
| 22:38 | <jmc> | yeah i know..but as u can see linode is not an option for us..cause we are looking for managed s... |
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| 22:39 | <rnowak> | poor, poor managed solution, how do they even dare to bother |
| 22:39 | <@mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 22:39 | <dzho> | going out on a limb here, but it's a bit like going into a kosher deli and asking who makes the best bacon in town. |
| 22:39 | <rnowak> | solutions, too |
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| 22:39 | <@mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 22:39 | <@Praefectus> | mmmm kosher bacon |
| 22:39 | <jmc> | sorry got disconnected |
| 22:39 | <rnowak> | mmm k -- damn you Praefectus |
| 22:39 | <@Praefectus> | BAHAHAA |
| 22:39 | <@Perihelion> | Sure, but I'm just letting you know that this probably isn't the place to get the answers you seek. |
| 22:40 | <jmc> | ok fine. thanks guys |
| 22:40 | <dzho> | jmc: good luck |
| 22:40 | <jmc> | thank you! |
| 22:40 | <jmc> | ye all |
| 22:40 | <@Perihelion> | o/ |
| 22:40 | <dzho> | jmc: if you do find someone you're happy with, eventually, let us know |
| 22:40 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 22:40 | <jmc> | lol |
| 22:40 | <jmc> | ok |
| 22:40 | <rnowak> | !cloud |
| 22:40 | <linbot> | I'm leaving Linode for the cloud! |
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| 22:43 | <rnowak> | this flight club's estimation for getting a certificate is 3 to 12 months, hopefully I'll manage closer to 3 than 12 \o/ |
| 22:43 | <@Praefectus> | i read that as "this fight club's" at first glance |
| 22:43 | <rnowak> | I was expecting at least someone to do ;p |
| 22:43 | <@Perihelion> | I did too |
| 22:43 | <dzho> | so, what is the first rule of flight club? |
| 22:43 | <rnowak> | what would you call it in english, it is flygklubb in swedish, literally, flight club |
| 22:44 | <@Perihelion> | You only have too much fuel when you're on fire. |
| 22:44 | <@Perihelion> | rnowak: Maybe flight school? |
| 22:44 | <rnowak> | I guess |
| 22:44 | <@Perihelion> | Flying club seems to imply something different |
| 22:45 | <Kyhwana> | fight club while flying? |
| 22:45 | <rnowak> | now, I've got two different ideas for that, one normal, and one because the internet has ruined my mind |
| 22:45 | <dzho> | does one join as a member, or simply pay tuition and expenses? |
| 22:45 | <@Praefectus> | "flying club" == mile high club? |
| 22:45 | <dzho> | I've heard of folks owning partial shares in a plane, that sort of thing. |
| 22:45 | <rnowak> | dzho: both, kind of - you can just do the latter, though. I guess that depends on the actual... organization, though |
| 22:46 | <dzho> | "co-op" short for "co-operative" might also be an applicable analog |
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| 22:46 | <rnowak> | what I meant was in form of a flight school, so I guess that's a better term to use |
| 22:46 | <dzho> | "coop" might be an unfortunate way of rendering that, given the context :) |
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| 22:47 | <rnowak> | http://www.eslovsflygklubb.se/index.php look at that awesome logo |
| 22:47 | <Kyhwana> | When will linode have a DC in one of those solar powered floating platform thingies? |
| 22:48 | <@Praefectus> | Kyhwana: as soon as my orbital platform is compelte |
| 22:48 | <@Praefectus> | complete, too |
| 22:48 | <rnowak> | Linoblimp |
| 22:48 | <rnowak> | Blimpnodia |
| 22:49 | <Kyhwana> | excellent |
| 22:49 | <Kyhwana> | Will it have v6 off the bat? |
| 22:49 | <@Praefectus> | yes |
| 22:49 | <@Praefectus> | v8 as well |
| 22:49 | <ajmitch> | linode needs a DC in the land of the long white cloud |
| 22:49 | <Kyhwana> | ajmitch: hah! yes.. |
| 22:49 | <rnowak> | ajmitch: tibet? |
| 22:49 | <Kyhwana> | rnowak: wat, no |
| 22:50 | <ajmitch> | rnowak: NZ |
| 22:50 | <rnowak> | oh, that, I was not aware, had to google |
| 22:50 | <rnowak> | aotearoa, cute |
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| 22:50 | <rnowak> | this day became meaningful again, I learned something \o/ |
| 22:51 | <Kyhwana> | haha |
| 22:53 | <Katana> | howly |
| 22:53 | <Katana> | is anyone watching what's going on with the Daytona 500, and the baptism by fire it just got |
| 22:54 | <Kyhwana> | yeah, car crashed into the back of the cleaning truck thing |
| 22:54 | <rnowak> | :o |
| 22:54 | <Katana> | the jet dryer, yeah. |
| 22:54 | <Katana> | diesel fuel + 200 gals of jet fuel, everywhar |
| 22:54 | <mwalling> | he wanted flames on the jet dryer |
| 22:54 | <Katana> | aaand then suddenly ignition source. |
| 22:55 | <Katana> | jet fuel burns high. |
| 22:55 | <mwalling> | i liked the safety worker standing in the fuel when another roll of flame comes down the track |
| 22:55 | <rnowak> | anyone got seriously hurt? |
| 22:55 | <mwalling> | nope |
| 22:55 | <Katana> | nobody, luckily |
| 22:55 | <dzho> | rnowak: speaking of diesel, it is fun to read that your flying club has put one in one of their planes |
| 22:55 | <mwalling> | they took the truck driver to the local hospital for further observation |
| 22:56 | <dzho> | a Diesel engine, that is. |
| 22:56 | <mwalling> | dzho: buh wut? |
| 22:57 | <dzho> | mwalling: http://www.eslovsflygklubb.se/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=47&Itemid=93 |
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| 22:58 | <rnowak> | dzho: heh |
| 22:58 | * | dzho was looking to see how it was organized, whether the club runs the FBO or what. |
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| 22:59 | <rnowak> | ESME's a small field, but I have very limited knowledge about air machinae infrastructure operations |
| 23:01 | <dzho> | as best I can tell, the club offers a maintenance operation, but not fuel |
| 23:01 | <mwalling> | wow |
| 23:01 | <bdube> | ha a C172 with FADEC |
| 23:01 | <mwalling> | next time FOX shows a replay of montoya going bang, if you can listen on a 5.1 system... its erie |
| 23:02 | <mwalling> | you can hear the jet dryer going by the mic array, and then it overspeed after impact |
| 23:02 | <mwalling> | oh, and the *fwooomp* |
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| 23:05 | <mwalling> | i think danaka had to go pee |
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| 23:06 | <@caker> | rnowak: I did it in 5 months, then another few weeks to schedule my checkride due to weather and stuff |
| 23:06 | <rnowak> | caker: ah, cool |
| 23:07 | <@caker> | that was pretty aggressive, from what I understand. I was going twice a week or so |
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| 23:09 | <rnowak> | Guess I'll be aiming at half a year or so. Will know more in a few days, but pretty damn excited about it. |
| 23:10 | <@caker> | awesome :) is this just for fun, or a career thing, or what? |
| 23:10 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Single linode, lots of Priv In spikes? in Performance and Tuning <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8490> |
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| 23:10 | <rnowak> | caker: just for fun |
| 23:11 | * | synapt thinks fremont just hiccup'd pretty good |
| 23:11 | <@caker> | Fremont was fine. It was the Internet. |
| 23:11 | <Kyhwana> | wtf is with people complainging about ipv6 "siking" up to 140BITS/SEC |
| 23:11 | * | Kyhwana rageface |
| 23:11 | <synapt> | it be dem darn anonymous boys attackin dem root srvrs |
| 23:11 | * | synapt took far too much effort to type that |
| 23:11 | <rnowak> | oh noes |
| 23:11 | <imMute> | Kyhwana: "siking" ?? |
| 23:11 | <Kyhwana> | +p |
| 23:12 | <Kyhwana> | see above forum post |
| 23:12 | <synapt> | I know right? Mine spikes to 90Kbit/s once a day |
| 23:12 | <synapt> | don't see me complainin |
| 23:12 | <synapt> | >.> |
| 23:12 | <rnowak> | mah presiooos transferz |
| 23:13 | <Kyhwana> | the bits, they be leaking |
| 23:13 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 23:13 | <synapt> | lol |
| 23:13 | <rnowak> | Linodia Cloud Piping and Plumbing |
| 23:13 | <synapt> | I just like that my CPU graph generally would double well as a spectrum analyzer |
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| 23:14 | * | ajmitch has ipv6 spiking up around 10Mbps |
| 23:14 | <synapt> | 10 Mbit? Now that's definitely more than I've ever got |
| 23:14 | <rnowak> | 10Mbps, for a fraction of a second? (: |
| 23:14 | <rnowak> | the devil's in the details |
| 23:15 | <synapt> | I think most I've ever had in the random spikes were around 200Kbit, not counting the ones where I'm grabbing updates anyways |
| 23:15 | <ajmitch> | sure, sustained rate is only a few Mbps, mostly transfers between home & linode |
| 23:21 | <kiteplans> | this is kind of analytics question - would moving a server to a new host / new IP have an effect on your search engine rank and all those things? |
| 23:21 | <rnowak> | "no" |
| 23:21 | <rnowak> | it really is "maybe" |
| 23:21 | <kiteplans> | we recently moved one of our sites over to a new IP and we have seen a drop in traffic, my logic says is should not affect it at all |
| 23:21 | <rnowak> | and if you ask how so, "I don't know" |
| 23:22 | <rnowak> | and no one but gewgle does either |
| 23:22 | <kiteplans> | same answers here if you would ask me |
| 23:22 | <rnowak> | but, it would be pretty stupid if they penalized for something like that - as loadbalancing would screw things up seriously, if done via DNS |
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| 23:23 | <kiteplans> | so I am just waiting for some final answers on privacy questions from the linode staff and then I can start my server setup and move my sites over to linode and hopefully never have to move again |
| 23:23 | <kiteplans> | yeah that makes alot of sense - it would be stupid |
| 23:23 | <rnowak> | Praefectus leaves pizza leftovers all over the place in your filesystem |
| 23:24 | <rnowak> | makes quite a mess tbh |
| 23:24 | <kiteplans> | but I have noticed it every time I move our site to a new ip |
| 23:24 | <@Praefectus> | sometimes with supergrasy peperoni |
| 23:24 | <rnowak> | yeah, that's the worst |
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