| --- | Log | opened Sat Feb 04 00:00:21 2012 |
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| 00:02 | <lelldorianx> | Hmm, on Ubuntu 10.04 + Apache2, is the best way to create a subdomain going to be a vhosts edit? I want to point sub.mydomain.com to mydomain.com/suffix. I am using a CMS - the "suffix" bit isn't an actual folder, it's just a category created by the CMS. |
| 00:02 | <lelldorianx> | I'm trying to search google for answers to my specific question, but I don't know the proper terminology to search for. Anyone have a link or suggestion handy? |
| 00:03 | <lelldorianx> | Alternatively, is this something I can handle entirely through linode's DNS manager? |
| 00:04 | <Kunda> | does linuxplesk14.openhost.net.nz have anything to do with linode ? |
| 00:06 | <@akerl> | Kunda: No, why? |
| 00:07 | <Kunda> | akerl, just trying to troubleshoot a bouncing email |
| 00:07 | <@heckman> | whoising an IP address usually tells you where it points to |
| 00:07 | <@heckman> | :) |
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| 00:08 | <cyberdyn> | i have a question regarding the tech doc " http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid " >> the docs talk about "/srv/www/" -- but apt-get seems to install apache with /var/www |
| 00:09 | <cyberdyn> | are the docs incorrect or am i missing something? : ) |
| 00:09 | <cyberdyn> | or is this in the "this is so trivial i wanna go get a cup of coffee" category..? |
| 00:09 | <Kunda> | i'm trying to understand what is up with this domain at the moment. It's called thebarefootcook.com and I've made a zone for it and it works as a vhost. Apache shows that it's live. when i try to send it mail...it loops back with an address from .nz ? |
| 00:10 | <Kunda> | !dig mx thebarefootcook.com |
| 00:10 | <linbot> | Kunda: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION mx. 1800 IN SOA m.mx-ns.mx. hostmaster.nic.mx. 1328331584 900 900 604800 1800 |
| 00:10 | <Kunda> | !dig thebarefootcook.com mx |
| 00:10 | <linbot> | Kunda: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: thebarefootcook.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail.biodynamic-craniosacral.com. | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION thebarefootcook.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.linode.com. thebarefootcook.com. 86400 IN NS ns3.linode.com. thebarefootcook.com. 86400 IN NS ns5.linode.com. thebarefootcook.com. 86400 IN NS ns4.linode.com. thebarefootcook.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.linode.com. |
| 00:10 | <@heckman> | "loops back?" |
| 00:11 | <Kunda> | yes: http://p.linode.com/6251 |
| 00:12 | <Kunda> | heckman: ^^ |
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| 00:12 | <Kunda> | i'm doing a tail -f /var/log/mail.log |
| 00:13 | <Kunda> | and not showing any activity that should be generated from that email arriving |
| 00:14 | <@heckman> | Kunda: the MX records for your domains points to: mail.biodynamic-craniosacral.com |
| 00:14 | <Kunda> | heckman, right, that is my FQDN that i've assigned my linode |
| 00:14 | <@heckman> | The PTR record for that IP address is linuxplesk14.openhost.net.nz |
| 00:15 | <Kunda> | PTR? |
| 00:15 | <@heckman> | Well apparently its DNS points elsewhere |
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| 00:15 | <@heckman> | PTR = Pointer (Reverse DNS) |
| 00:15 | <Kunda> | how do you see that ? |
| 00:15 | <@heckman> | dig -x <ip> |
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| 00:16 | <@heckman> | mail.biodynamic-craniosacral.com points to: 119.47.118.82 |
| 00:16 | <Kunda> | how did you get the ip? |
| 00:16 | <Kunda> | thought the ip was my linode.. |
| 00:17 | <@heckman> | I'm doing DNS queries |
| 00:17 | <Kunda> | thebarefootcook.com. 26373 IN A 96.126.126.36 |
| 00:17 | <@heckman> | http://pastie.org/private/or1ayeqjog0pcwe1mhmj9g |
| 00:18 | <retro|blah> | cyberdyn: You can use whichever one you prefer. |
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| 00:18 | <@heckman> | Kunda: I'm not sure what that has to do with anything? |
| 00:18 | <@heckman> | I'm looking up the MX records for your domain |
| 00:18 | <@heckman> | That's where mail for your domain goes to. |
| 00:18 | <Kunda> | oh! |
| 00:19 | <Kunda> | it's the mail domain is wrong.. |
| 00:19 | <Kunda> | the MX record was added incorrectly by me |
| 00:20 | <Katana> | cyberdyn: the docs say /srv/www/ as that's where many sysadmins move the webroot to - myself included. by default it is /var/www though |
| 00:20 | <Kunda> | heckman, thanks man. sorry for being a little dense |
| 00:20 | <@heckman> | np |
| 00:21 | <rnowak> | my webroot is / |
| 00:21 | <@heckman> | trololol |
| 00:22 | <cyberdyn> | katana --thanks for the clarification. in most instances, most people that i associate with do /var/wwww |
| 00:22 | <cyberdyn> | and i was wanting to know if there was any particular reason why the docs said /srv/www |
| 00:22 | <cyberdyn> | :) |
| 00:22 | <Katana> | cyberdyn: yeah - many linoders that I see though serve out of /srv/ because it's a root dir exclusive for serving things |
| 00:23 | <Katana> | cyberdyn: meanwhile you have the cluster that is /var/, filled with this and that and your grandma's cookie recipe... |
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| 00:23 | <tkmedia> | mmmm oatmeal cookies |
| 00:23 | <tkmedia> | !vend |
| 00:23 | <linbot> | IT VENDS! a grape soda |
| 00:23 | <Kunda> | heckman, how long does DNS propogation take ? |
| 00:23 | <Katana> | !vend |
| 00:23 | <linbot> | IT VENDS! a sammich |
| 00:24 | <Katana> | this works |
| 00:24 | <@heckman> | Depends on your TTL |
| 00:24 | <@heckman> | Our zones update every quarter hour. |
| 00:24 | <cyberdyn> | tkmedia: he didn't say it was -oatmeal- cookie recipes.... |
| 00:24 | <cyberdyn> | i believe CSI would take issue with that assumption |
| 00:24 | <Kunda> | heckman, set to 'DEFAULT' |
| 00:24 | <tkmedia> | i was scanning his server |
| 00:24 | <@heckman> | 24 hours |
| 00:24 | <@heckman> | So any resolvers have your records cached for 24 hours |
| 00:24 | <@heckman> | Well, up to. |
| 00:24 | <Kunda> | can I change that ? |
| 00:24 | <Katana> | tkmedia: i only have peanut butter cookie recipes here |
| 00:24 | <cyberdyn> | hehe... |
| 00:24 | <Katana> | tkmedia: so ha |
| 00:25 | <Katana> | your lying ass got busted |
| 00:25 | <tkmedia> | :P |
| 00:25 | <tkmedia> | !rr |
| 00:25 | <linbot> | tkmedia: *click* |
| 00:25 | <Kunda> | can i force them to clear by using a shorter TTL ? |
| 00:25 | <Katana> | Kunda: ...they're cached. |
| 00:25 | <Katana> | Kunda: they'll only pull again when the previous TTL has expired |
| 00:26 | <Kunda> | ok |
| 00:26 | <Katana> | there is no magic DNS "propagate" button |
| 00:26 | <Katana> | gotta wait. |
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| 00:33 | <Kunda> | cool..i circumvented the DNS by telneting directly in to smtpd and sendin an email which forwarded correctly based on my postfix virtual mapping |
| 00:34 | <Kunda> | so once the DNS propagates I should be good to go |
| 00:34 | <Kunda> | heckman, how do I submit something to the linode library ? |
| 00:34 | <Kunda> | btw, akerl, I'm keeping the linode account :) |
| 00:35 | <Kunda> | ok |
| 00:35 | <Kunda> | need to unglue myself from this chair. |
| 00:35 | <Kunda> | later all |
| 00:36 | <Kunda> | thanks for all the help and support |
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| 00:46 | <passingthrough> | hello |
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| 01:10 | <tkmedia> | !rr |
| 01:10 | <linbot> | tkmedia: *click* |
| 01:11 | <pharaun> | !vend |
| 01:11 | <linbot> | IT VENDS! a small puppy |
| 01:11 | <pharaun> | daww |
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| 01:11 | <mallorn> | What's the best way to report bugs with the Linode Manager? I've run into a couple of them tonight. |
| 01:12 | <pharaun> | ticket |
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| 01:31 | <mallorn> | Well, to be honest, I worked through the steps and think I may have been at fault. I thought you could clone over an existing OS install, but maybe not. |
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| 01:31 | <cyberdyn> | i've read that if you clone over an existing os install, then all the bits get flipped and you get a reverse clone. |
| 01:31 | <cyberdyn> | generally with a size 13 shoe |
| 01:32 | <cyberdyn> | {{ that's my standup act for the night }} |
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| 01:37 | <mallorn> | :) |
| 01:37 | <@heckman> | mallorn: what did you try to do exactly? |
| 01:39 | <pharaun> | exploding the world? :) sounds like he was trying to restore something |
| 01:40 | <mallorn> | I created a new Linode and wanted to clone an old Linode to it to test some upgrades. By habit I chose an OS for it, so when I went to clone it failed and said there wasn't enough disk space. |
| 01:40 | <@heckman> | Correct, that's not a bug |
| 01:40 | <@heckman> | That's how the Linode Manager is meant to behave. |
| 01:41 | <@heckman> | Prevents people from accidentally their data :) |
| 01:42 | <mallorn> | I thought it was confused because the new Linode was smaller than the server I was copying to, and the error about not having enough disk space was misleading. |
| 01:42 | <@heckman> | How was it misleading? |
| 01:43 | <@heckman> | The Linode Manager doesn't know, or even try to guess, about the internal usage of your Linode. It couldn't squeeze your disk images on to the new Linode, so it told you "sup dawg, not enough disk space". Although, the Lindoe Manager was a bit more professional. :p |
| 01:44 | <SleePy> | Why, thats professional enough foe me :P |
| 01:44 | <@heckman> | s/Lindoe/Linode/ |
| 01:44 | <pharaun> | would love to see the "sup dwag, y u trying to cram this into this" |
| 01:44 | <mallorn> | I just assumed it would let me overwrite my data if I wanted to. My mistake. |
| 01:44 | <cyberdyn> | good evening heckman: can you (or anyone here) suggest a good document to understand how to remove root user? // i've already created a new admin user.... |
| 01:44 | <SleePy> | +1 pharaun |
| 01:44 | <pharaun> | backup snapshot then make a new node, restore? |
| 01:45 | <cyberdyn> | just can't find a good simple doc that tells me about.... removing root suer |
| 01:45 | <cyberdyn> | (user) |
| 01:45 | <@heckman> | cyberdyn: you *dont* remove root |
| 01:45 | <cyberdyn> | hehe... |
| 01:45 | <cyberdyn> | well, disable?? |
| 01:45 | <@heckman> | You can disable remote SSH access for root |
| 01:45 | <pharaun> | well "technically" with selinux you can dilute root to the point where its useless |
| 01:45 | <@heckman> | But you should never disable the root user. |
| 01:45 | <pharaun> | but yeah, what you really want is disable root ssh access |
| 01:45 | <pharaun> | and rrun things as regular user account, etc... |
| 01:45 | <@heckman> | http://library.linode.com/security/basics |
| 01:46 | <cyberdyn> | ah permitrootlogin.. that's a good one. :) |
| 01:46 | <cyberdyn> | thanks. |
| 01:46 | <cyberdyn> | thx |
| 01:47 | <@heckman> | mallorn: it takes a better safe than sorry approach. |
| 01:47 | <@heckman> | Same with the Linode Backup Service. It will try to restore alongside, and not over top of your disk images. |
| 01:47 | <@heckman> | Now, to try to and sleep. Need to drive to Queens, NY tomorrow morning. |
| 01:48 | <SleePy> | Node Party? |
| 01:48 | <mallorn> | That's fine. :) It was just confusing. When I tried cloning a 1024 onto a 768 linode it said not enough disk space. So I resized the target linode and it still complained, and for a while I was left scratching my head. :) |
| 01:48 | <@heckman> | Looking at a car. |
| 01:49 | <pharaun> | heckman: destroyed that jeep? |
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| 01:50 | <lakridserne> | Why are there not any broadcasting software for shoutcast for linux that are good? |
| 01:50 | <@heckman> | Nah, I want an STi |
| 01:50 | <@heckman> | Found one for a good price. Just need to go see if I like it and if I can get a loan |
| 01:50 | <chesty> | ask urmom for an sti |
| 01:50 | <mallorn> | D'oh. My clone wasn't booting; /dev/xvda: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. No wonder. :) |
| 01:50 | <EugeneKay> | You're thinking of a UTI |
| 01:51 | <chesty> | no i'm not |
| 01:51 | <mallorn> | That's what I get for cloning a live system. |
| 01:51 | <pharaun> | heckman: ah good luck |
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| 01:55 | <@heckman> | pharaun: yeah I'll need it. :p |
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| 01:57 | <lakridserne> | If there's anyone in here who know about some good internet radio dj software for shoutcast that work under linux, I'd like to know! |
| 02:00 | <@heckman> | I used to know of some back in the day where you could feed it a playlist and it would just go. |
| 02:01 | <@heckman> | I can't think of the name, tho |
| 02:02 | <lakridserne> | heckman: The problem is I want to use linux for it as well, but until now the best thing is unfortunately only available on windows - SAM Broadcaster |
| 02:02 | <lakridserne> | I also tried IDJC, but I had problems with it |
| 02:02 | <@heckman> | GUI Linux or CLi? |
| 02:02 | <lakridserne> | GUI Linux |
| 02:02 | <@heckman> | You try Amarok? |
| 02:02 | <@heckman> | I thought VLC could do it as well |
| 02:03 | <lakridserne> | No I did not try Amarok - I'll do that. |
| 02:03 | <@heckman> | Well, I guess they wouldn't do what you want. |
| 02:03 | <@heckman> | They are more for playback. |
| 02:03 | <lakridserne> | VLC is a player - as far as I know they doesn't have an encoder |
| 02:03 | <lakridserne> | ah okay |
| 02:07 | <lakridserne> | I'm considering learning some more programming in a language like C++ or Java and then programming my own |
| 02:07 | <lakridserne> | I'm sure it would take loads of time though |
| 02:08 | <@heckman> | Indeed. Alright, I'm out for the night. o/ |
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| 02:29 | <Kyh> | hmm |
| 02:29 | * | Kyh fallsover |
| 02:29 | <Kyh> | lakridserne: VLC will encode, yes |
| 02:30 | <lakridserne> | Kyh: To SHOUTcast? |
| 02:31 | <Kyh> | hmm |
| 02:31 | <Kyh> | uh |
| 02:31 | <Kyh> | well, that's two different things |
| 02:31 | <lakridserne> | an encoder is, as far as I know, some software to broadcast things to the radio server |
| 02:31 | <Kyh> | infact, it does that now too |
| 02:32 | <Kyh> | You can have vlc encode/stream to an icecast server |
| 02:32 | <lakridserne> | I don't have icecast |
| 02:32 | <lakridserne> | I have shoutcast |
| 02:32 | <Kyh> | same thing |
| 02:32 | <lakridserne> | no |
| 02:33 | <lakridserne> | IceCast and SHOUTcast are two different programs |
| 02:33 | <lakridserne> | IceCast use a lot more resources than SHOUTcast |
| 02:34 | <Kyh> | Isn't it the same protocol? |
| 02:34 | <Kyh> | Pretty sure you can connect shoutcast clients to icecast/vice versa |
| 02:34 | <lakridserne> | No. You cannot do that |
| 02:35 | <lakridserne> | I'm pretty sure about that |
| 02:35 | <lakridserne> | At least I have to select which of them in my broadcasting program |
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| 02:35 | <Kyh> | oh well |
| 02:36 | <eagles0513875> | lakridserne: in response to an earlier comment icecast is based off shoutcast |
| 02:37 | <eagles0513875> | shoutcast has gone to the dogs so to speak due to aol time warner owning it |
| 02:37 | <lakridserne> | eagles0513875: Oh I didn't know that |
| 02:38 | <eagles0513875> | lakridserne: and Kyh one perk icecast has is it supports open source formats such as ogg etc shoutcast is an mp3 format only |
| 02:39 | <eagles0513875> | icecast also supports mp3 as well |
| 02:39 | <eagles0513875> | thats the nice thing about it you can use more formats with icecast then with shoutcast |
| 02:40 | <eagles0513875> | another feature you have is play lists using ices |
| 02:40 | <eagles0513875> | http://www.icecast.org/ices.php |
| 02:40 | <lakridserne> | eagles0513875: MP3 is pretty much used anywhere as far as I'm aware |
| 02:42 | <eagles0513875> | lakridserne: it is but there are some people that prefer to use the open source formats such as ogg] |
| 02:43 | <eagles0513875> | and wont use anything else |
| 02:44 | <lakridserne> | eagles0513875: We're targeted at people who love music, and I'm pretty sure they don't know about it - and if they do they don't care. I could be wrong though |
| 02:44 | <nixon> | it seems the release date for 12.04 LTS is April 26 |
| 02:44 | <nixon> | do you reckon linode will be offering it as an image within on week of that? |
| 02:44 | <eagles0513875> | nicar: c |
| 02:45 | <eagles0513875> | nixon: can do an online upgrade |
| 02:45 | <eagles0513875> | from 11.10 to 12.04 |
| 02:45 | <nixon> | I will most probably be getting someone else the linode, so that's not a concern |
| 02:45 | <nixon> | would rather just get it when the image is available, for simplicity's sake |
| 02:45 | <eagles0513875> | install 11.10 and upgrade it for them |
| 02:46 | <eagles0513875> | thats a gd point though |
| 02:46 | <nixon> | that would entail me doing work. I don't like to do stuff you see :-\ |
| 02:47 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 02:47 | <eagles0513875> | lol just a single command on the command line sudo do-release-upgrade |
| 02:53 | <linbot> | New news from forums: subdomain.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx possible? in Linux Networking <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8381>; |
| 02:56 | <Kyh> | fail |
| 02:56 | <eagles0513875> | Kyh: ? |
| 02:56 | <Kyh> | "subdomain.192.168.1.2" |
| 02:56 | <Kyh> | (I forget what the RFC example v4 IP address range is) |
| 02:57 | <eagles0513875> | dont you want ur subdomain on ur linode public ip |
| 02:58 | <eagles0513875> | which reminds me i need to add a 2nd round of entries for ipv6 to all my sites in dns |
| 02:58 | <Kyh> | eagles0513875: you can't do that |
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| 03:06 | <eagles0513875> | Kyh: ? |
| 03:06 | <eagles0513875> | cant do what |
| 03:07 | <Kyh> | eagles0513875: use an IP as a domain with a subdomain on the front |
| 03:09 | <eagles0513875> | Kyh: thats what im doign and it works just fine |
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| 03:09 | <Kyh> | uhm what |
| 03:09 | <eagles0513875> | my subdomains are using the same public ip as my main domain |
| 03:10 | <Kyh> | eagles0513875: nono, he seems to be wanting to do "foo.1.1.1.1" and have that resolve |
| 03:12 | <mallorn> | Does anyone know why, when using pv-grub with my owner kernel, my console keeps getting commented out of inittab with every reboot? Or how to stop that from happening? |
| 03:12 | <mallorn> | s/owner/own/ |
| 03:13 | <retro|blah> | mallorn: Let me check real quick. Does your inittab have hvc0 in it? |
| 03:13 | <mallorn> | I had this line in /etc/inittab: co:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty xvc0 38400 linux |
| 03:14 | <retro|blah> | OK, I have hvc0 instead of xvc0 |
| 03:14 | <mallorn> | When I rebooted it was commented out though. So I uncommented it, did a kill -1 1 to get it recognized again, then it was commented out again on another reboot. |
| 03:14 | <retro|blah> | Also set Xenify Distro to no |
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| 03:14 | <retro|blah> | (this is in the configuration profile in Linode Manager) |
| 03:16 | <mallorn> | I'll try hvc0; I see the wiki says to use that on one page (but xvc on another). I'll try the xenify thing too. Thanks! |
| 03:17 | <mallorn> | Both hvc0 and xvc0 seem to work when testing them manually though. |
| 03:17 | <retro|blah> | Yeah |
| 03:18 | <mallorn> | If I seem terse or grumpy or can't spell I'm just tired. Past my bedtime. :) I really appreciate the help! |
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| 03:28 | <mallorn> | by yacc |
| 03:28 | <mallorn> | If he was my father, would he say 'bi son'? |
| 03:29 | <mallorn> | OK, getting slap happy. Time for bed. No more parser generator humor. |
| 03:31 | <mallorn> | Those were bison and byacc references if anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about and wants to Google it. :D |
| 03:33 | <mallorn> | Oh, for the record, xvc0 is the only one that works for me. hvc0 didn't work on a reboot. But the 'don't xenify me' think did the trick. |
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| 04:04 | <tusk> | goodmorning |
| 04:04 | <Kyh> | evening |
| 04:05 | <tusk> | seems like google chrome doesn't tunnel DNS request through socks5 |
| 04:05 | <tusk> | but firefox can do it, |
| 04:05 | <tusk> | or maybe it is just me. |
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| 04:07 | <lakridserne> | Hi |
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| 04:11 | <tusk> | Hi |
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| 04:11 | <tusk> | I am on a train using linode as a webproxy |
| 04:12 | <tusk> | but only firefox also proxy my dns requests. |
| 04:12 | <chronomex> | Hi |
| 04:12 | <chronomex> | I can believe that |
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| 04:38 | <amitz> | tusk: google chrome does tunnel. |
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| 05:04 | <dwfreed> | tusk: um, the point of SOCKS5 is the remote DNS |
| 05:04 | <dwfreed> | Otherwise, barring some other differences, it's just SOCKS4 |
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| 06:36 | <Nemykal> | if i add a new CNAME record in the linode dns manager, how long does that take to take effect? |
| 06:40 | <dwfreed> | Nemykal: up to 15 minutes; Linode triggers dns updates at 15, 30, and 45 minutes past the hour, as well as on the hour |
| 06:41 | <dwfreed> | So if you added it before 6:30 AM EST, it should already be there, if you just added it, it'll show up in about 4 minutes |
| 06:47 | <Nemykal> | hm ok |
| 06:47 | <Nemykal> | just trying to set up google apps for the domain in question |
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| 08:24 | <Kunda> | i'm trying to associate a subdomain with a VirtualHost. Here is what I did: added an A record called cses pointing to my IP. Created a Vhost with the directive: ServerAlias cses.energyschool.com |
| 08:25 | <Kunda> | so if someone browses cses.mydomainhere.com in theory it should direct them to cses.energyschool.com ? |
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| 08:27 | <Kunda> | or should it be: ServerAlias cses.* |
| 08:27 | <hawk> | why the wildcard? |
| 08:28 | <Kunda> | *shrug* |
| 08:28 | <hawk> | If it's a brand new vhost section you should stick it in ServerName |
| 08:28 | <hawk> | ServerAlias is for additional names |
| 08:28 | <hawk> | And wildcards are for when there are actually multiple things that should match |
| 08:28 | <Kunda> | so ServerName cses. |
| 08:28 | <hawk> | ServerName whatever.it.is.that.the.name.is |
| 08:29 | <Kunda> | ServerName cses.energyschool.com |
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| 08:30 | <Kunda> | question: so i should have an /etc/apache/sites-enabled/energyschool.com or //cses.energyschool.com ? |
| 08:30 | <dan> | good morning guys |
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| 08:30 | <Kunda> | dan, mornin' |
| 08:30 | <hawk> | Kunda: Fwiw, there is no cses.energyschool.com in dns at this time |
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| 08:30 | <hawk> | Name the file whatever you think is appropriate |
| 08:30 | <dan> | I'm i little cofuse on where to install where |
| 08:31 | <mwalling> | where to install what where? |
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| 08:31 | <dan> | wordpress |
| 08:31 | <dan> | per this guide: http://www.raywenderlich.com/812/how-to-move-your-wordpress-blog-to-linode I need to install it on home/username |
| 08:32 | <mwalling> | Kunda: the file name doesn't matter, thats a convention created by the distros |
| 08:32 | <Kunda> | hawk, i have an A record for 'cses' is that wrong..should it be cses.energyschool.com ? |
| 08:33 | <Kunda> | rewind |
| 08:33 | <dan> | is there where I need to move all my files to? |
| 08:34 | <Kunda> | you're prob. resolving energyschool.com which I don't have the DNS for.. |
| 08:34 | <mwalling> | dan: use linode's library article instead of some random blog on the internet: http://library.linode.com/web-applications/cms-guides/wordpress |
| 08:34 | <hawk> | Kunda: I'm resolving cses.energyschool.com |
| 08:34 | <Kunda> | wait..i need to change the record on the godaddy dns to point to my linode |
| 08:35 | <Kunda> | since I dont host the dns for it |
| 08:35 | <Kunda> | kk |
| 08:35 | <hawk> | Kunda: http://p.linode.com/6252 is what it looks like atm |
| 08:35 | <dan> | ok mwalling will go for that now.. |
| 08:36 | <Kunda> | hawk, yea..thanks |
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| 08:39 | <Kunda> | from the top...i want to have a vhost for dev purposes that is a clone of energyschool.com I'd like to access it using cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net (i don't need to change energyschool.com's DNS for this) |
| 08:39 | <hawk> | Kunda: No, for that you just need cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net to resolve to the IP where you serve that |
| 08:40 | <Kunda> | I created an A record for this in biodynamic-craniosacral.net (which i just hastily deleted) |
| 08:40 | <Kunda> | right |
| 08:40 | <Kunda> | which needs an A record, yes ? |
| 08:41 | <hawk> | yes |
| 08:41 | <Kunda> | it would just be 'cses' right? |
| 08:42 | <hawk> | Technically it would be cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net. but often things are expressed as relative to the zone name |
| 08:42 | <Kunda> | so i'cses' is kosher is what I'm hearing |
| 08:42 | <Kunda> | s/i'cses'/'cses'/ |
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| 08:44 | <hawk> | If you're talking about the linode dns manager, I think names relative to the zone name is what is expected (eg cses) |
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| 08:46 | <Kunda> | hawk, cool, and /sites-enabled/energyschool.com <--- can i use that and have ServerName cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net (which later I can change to energyschool.com when I transfer it) |
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| 08:47 | <hawk> | The name of that file doesn't really affect anything but your own ability to recognize what is what |
| 08:47 | <Kunda> | great |
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| 09:00 | <Kunda> | hawk, so the A record is live: cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net. 14400 IN A 96.126.126.36 |
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| 09:00 | <Kunda> | browsing it shows nothing |
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| 09:01 | <hawk> | What do you mean "shows nothing"? |
| 09:01 | <Kunda> | i don't have an .htaccess in that directory |
| 09:01 | <Kunda> | maybe that's the issue |
| 09:01 | <hawk> | What _is_ the issue? |
| 09:02 | <hawk> | Seems to me like you're fixing something that already works |
| 09:02 | <Kunda> | sorry, i'm no sure if the browser is being directed to cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net |
| 09:02 | <Kunda> | should throw an index.html in there and see..huh? (duh) |
| 09:03 | <Kunda> | there is one in there already |
| 09:04 | <Kunda> | why isn't it being served ? |
| 09:04 | <Kunda> | hmm |
| 09:04 | <hawk> | Isn't it? |
| 09:04 | <hawk> | Sure looks like it's being served |
| 09:04 | <hawk> | Hence why I'm asking you what the problem is |
| 09:04 | <Kunda> | wait, u see website ? |
| 09:04 | <hawk> | Yes? |
| 09:05 | <Kunda> | hm..i don't and I've cleared my caches several times |
| 09:05 | <Kunda> | that's the issue |
| 09:06 | <Kunda> | nope don't see it safari either |
| 09:06 | <hawk> | What do you see? |
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| 09:06 | <Kunda> | The server at cses.biodynamic-craniosacral.net can't be found, because the DNS lookup failed. |
| 09:06 | <Kunda> | Chrome |
| 09:06 | <Kunda> | 404 page, i think |
| 09:07 | <hawk> | No, not 404.. failed dns lookup |
| 09:07 | <Kunda> | how can u see it ? |
| 09:07 | <hawk> | You said that |
| 09:07 | <hawk> | Or what do you mean? |
| 09:07 | <Kunda> | Kunda: wait, u see website ? |
| 09:07 | <Kunda> | hawk: Yes? |
| 09:08 | <mwalling> | Kunda: http://cl.ly/0f2K1y381f2X381O0O2H |
| 09:08 | <hawk> | Maybe your computer has energy fluctuations? |
| 09:08 | <Kunda> | wtf? |
| 09:08 | <Kunda> | glad to see it's operating |
| 09:09 | <mwalling> | Kunda: did you try to go to cses.bioblahblah before the A record was ready? |
| 09:09 | <mwalling> | Kunda: if so, you've got an NXDOMAIN cached somewhere between you and ... that place |
| 09:09 | <Kunda> | mwalling, yea..but i cleared my caches |
| 09:09 | <mwalling> | did you clear your router's caches? |
| 09:09 | <hawk> | Not the right caches |
| 09:09 | <mwalling> | how about your isp's caches? |
| 09:09 | <hawk> | browser cache != dns cache |
| 09:09 | <Kunda> | mind == blown |
| 09:10 | <Kunda> | how do I cope with such a thing ? |
| 09:10 | <Kunda> | heh |
| 09:10 | <mwalling> | Kunda: what os are you sitting infront of? |
| 09:10 | <Kunda> | OSX |
| 09:10 | <Kunda> | 10.6 |
| 09:11 | <hawk> | If you're using a resolver server under someone else's control that has cached something you either wait or you use some other resolver or stick something in your hosts file temporarily |
| 09:11 | <mwalling> | Kunda: you should be able to add it to the hosts file |
| 09:11 | <Kunda> | wow, i did not know that all this time |
| 09:12 | <Kunda> | what do i need to add in my hosts file ? |
| 09:13 | <Kunda> | (and FTR how do I use a different resolver? (on OSX)) |
| 09:13 | <hawk> | Something that puts a balance to your computer's energy fields |
| 09:13 | <Kunda> | haha |
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| 09:14 | <mwalling> | Kunda: you have to know that with content like that we're going to troll you |
| 09:14 | <mwalling> | that's like having something about smart grid |
| 09:14 | <mwalling> | or fuel cells |
| 09:14 | <Kunda> | it's all good.. I can use humor at this moment |
| 09:15 | <mwalling> | http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27291?viewlocale=en_US is old, looking for newer KB |
| 09:16 | <mwalling> | https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2493759 |
| 09:17 | <Kunda> | thanks! |
| 09:17 | <mwalling> | you know you could have done that yourself with google |
| 09:17 | <mwalling> | site:apple.com is powerful shit |
| 09:18 | <Kunda> | i know how to edit my hosts file..i've done it before. I thought you were showing me why i need to edit it + i'm lost who doing such a thing would resolve the site correctly for me ? |
| 09:19 | <Kunda> | s/who/why/ |
| 09:19 | <Kunda> | appreciate the gesture nonetheless :) |
| 09:20 | <hawk> | Kunda: Your problem appears to be that you or someone else using the same caching nameserver as you use (probably provided by your ISP) resolved that name before it existed |
| 09:20 | <hawk> | Kunda: Hence it has cached that the name does not exist and it will take a while before it will look it up again next time |
| 09:20 | <Kunda> | oh...so /etc/hosts takes precendence over DNS |
| 09:20 | <Kunda> | i get it |
| 09:21 | <hawk> | Yes |
| 09:21 | <Kunda> | ok..i'm back on the bus |
| 09:21 | <hawk> | (But remember to remove it when it's no longer needed or you may end up in a confusing situation later on) |
| 09:21 | <Kunda> | thanks |
| 09:21 | <Kunda> | right right |
| 09:27 | <eagles0513875> | hi guys :D |
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| 09:50 | <Katana> | roar |
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| 09:53 | <GeorgeJetson> | How do I completely change the credit card i'm using for billing here - https://manager.linode.com/account/creditcard ... |
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| 09:59 | <GeorgeJetson> | admins? |
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| 10:01 | <auraka> | morning all |
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| 10:03 | <hawk> | GeorgeJetson: Just filling in the new info doesn't work? |
| 10:07 | <dan> | how can I delete a mysql database? |
| 10:08 | <mwalling> | dan: "drop" |
| 10:08 | <mwalling> | !ops |
| 10:08 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
| 10:09 | <mwalling> | GeorgeJetson: ^^ might i suggest a ticket if you want an accurate response |
| 10:09 | <mwalling> | dan: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/drop-database.html |
| 10:09 | <dan> | thanks! |
| 10:10 | <hawk> | Yeah, that too. But he points to a page where you actually get to fill in your credit card info... Hence why I wonder if just filling out the form doesn't work |
| 10:10 | <praetorian> | indeed |
| 10:10 | <praetorian> | "New Card Number"! |
| 10:10 | <praetorian> | ps hi mwalling <3 <3 |
| 10:10 | <mwalling> | i'm sure it does, but we can't see whats going on with his account, so its easier to make a ticket monkey look at it |
| 10:10 | <amitz> | money related stuff is scary, my survival instinct is to shift the burden to ops :-p |
| 10:11 | <mwalling> | also, if we screw it up, he'll hate on linode. if a ticket monkey screws it up, well, that's not likely to happen |
| 10:11 | <praetorian> | id atleast wait for it to respond |
| 10:11 | <praetorian> | :p |
| 10:11 | <praetorian> | it? him. |
| 10:11 | <mwalling> | it? |
| 10:13 | <praetorian> | sleepy. |
| 10:13 | <praetorian> | i wonder if GeorgeJetson has a son called elroy |
| 10:16 | <cyberdyn> | sorry: i left my irc socket open and stayed login after i went to sleep last nite. |
| 10:16 | <cyberdyn> | :) |
| 10:16 | <praetorian> | thats fine. you can if you want |
| 10:16 | <cyberdyn> | yeah.. i know. just kidding. |
| 10:16 | <cyberdyn> | ;) |
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| 10:27 | <dan> | So I'm setting up wordpress following the linode doc, this part: http://library.linode.com/web-applications/cms-guides/wordpress#sph_configure-wordpress |
| 10:27 | <dan> | and when I visit the page to setup the wp-config and press the "Let's Go" button I get this error: |
| 10:28 | <dan> | The website encountered an error while retrieving http://www.mysite.com/wp-admin/setup-config.php?step=2. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly. |
| 10:28 | <dan> | I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong =\ |
| 10:33 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 10:33 | <GeorgeJetson> | praetorian: lol |
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| 10:43 | * | Katana throws darts at mwalling |
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| 10:43 | <Katana> | :D |
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| 11:00 | <AlexC_> | Morning all; openssh connection timeout, I've set ClientAliveCountMax and ClientAliveInterval to 1 and 10 respectively for testing however my SSH connections are not timing out at all. This used to work perfectly fine on every other box I've configured, and I can't for the life of me figure out why it's not timing out. Any ideas? I'm guessing my client is sending "something" to keep it active, but *shrugs* |
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| 11:16 | <linbot> | New news from forums: MySQL configuration in Performance and Tuning <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8387>; |
| 11:28 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Quite a few 408 errors in Apache log - DoS ? in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8048>; |
| 11:29 | <eagles0513875> | hey Katana |
| 11:29 | <eagles0513875> | hey AlexC |
| 11:29 | <eagles0513875> | hey AlexC_ :D |
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| 11:35 | <AlexC_> | Harrow |
| 11:37 | <eagles0513875> | AlexC_: what exactly the issue with openssh |
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| 11:42 | <AlexC_> | It simply will not timeout inactive connections, like the manpage suggests - and how it's always worked for me in the future |
| 11:43 | <AlexC_> | s/future/past/ ... |
| 11:43 | <eagles0513875> | AlexC_: what distro |
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| 11:44 | <AlexC_> | Debian 6 |
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| 11:45 | <eagles0513875> | you got me wondering as well if i would have the same issue on ubuntu 10.04 |
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| 11:50 | <eagles0513875> | AlexC_: is it easy to setup |
| 11:51 | <AlexC_> | eagles0513875: It's two keywords to add |
| 11:55 | <eagles0513875> | AlexC_: which man page under the ssh man page |
| 11:55 | <AlexC_> | eagles0513875: sshd_config |
| 11:56 | <eagles0513875> | ok well i have TCPKeepAlive set to yes guessing i need to change that to no correct? |
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| 11:57 | <AlexC_> | eagles0513875: Read my initial question |
| 11:59 | <eagles0513875> | ahh ur setting the max number of clients that can connect |
| 11:59 | <AlexC_> | No |
| 12:01 | <mwalling> | AlexC_: you don't have a screen status bar with a clock in it, do you? |
| 12:01 | <@akerl> | AlexC_: Is TCPKeepAlives on? |
| 12:02 | <AlexC_> | akerl: Yes, that's on. I guess it would make sense that's the culprit |
| 12:03 | <AlexC_> | mwalling: Bog standard Bash shell, no ticking clock |
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| 12:03 | <@akerl> | AlexC_: It's client and server side |
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| 12:06 | <AlexC_> | akerl: Turning TCPKeepAlive off makes no difference; I'm guessing the client side ServerAliveCountMax & ServerAliveInterval are playing a part in this too? With the client sending these alive messages back to the server |
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| 12:07 | <dan> | Question, I just installed wordpress, I configured the wp-config correctly but I'm getting this error: The website encountered an error while retrieving http://www.mysite.com/. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly. |
| 12:08 | <AlexC_> | dan: Check your webserver error log, a quick google seems to suggest permission problems |
| 12:09 | <dan> | ok I will try that, thanks AlexC |
| 12:09 | <AlexC_> | dan: Failing that, try #wordpress on chat.freenode.net |
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| 12:11 | <eagles0513875> | dan: think i might be able to help you |
| 12:12 | <eagles0513875> | dan: what web server are you using out of curiosity as well are you using vhosts? |
| 12:12 | <dan> | cool! |
| 12:12 | <eagles0513875> | running about 5 to 6 wordpress sites of my own :) |
| 12:13 | <dan> | nice, this is my first one on linode |
| 12:13 | <dan> | everything was ok until now |
| 12:13 | <eagles0513875> | ok are you using vhosts also what web server are you running |
| 12:14 | <mwalling> | mysite.com loads fine. |
| 12:14 | <AlexC_> | :P |
| 12:14 | <dan> | ubuntu 10.04 |
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| 12:14 | <dan> | using putty |
| 12:14 | <eagles0513875> | dan: sounds like to me like a cache issue if its loading for mwalling |
| 12:14 | <linbot> | http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1458 |
| 12:14 | <eagles0513875> | hold on |
| 12:15 | <eagles0513875> | dan: i mean waht web server nginx apache ? |
| 12:15 | <dan> | apache2 |
| 12:15 | <dan> | here is the site www.alantemusic.com |
| 12:15 | <eagles0513875> | dan: should mysite.com return a webhosting site ? |
| 12:15 | <eagles0513875> | humm loads a blank page |
| 12:15 | <eagles0513875> | dan: mind if i pm ya bro |
| 12:16 | <dan> | sure go ahead |
| 12:16 | <mwalling> | dan: just remember that any advice given by "bros" in pm can't be vetted or corrected by the community |
| 12:17 | <dan> | mwalling, ok thanks for the advice |
| 12:17 | <rnowak> | !apropos redact |
| 12:17 | <linbot> | rnowak: redact |
| 12:17 | <eagles0513875> | mwalling: i know what im talking about regarding wordpress as i have 6 sites running on ubuntu 10.04 |
| 12:17 | <mwalling> | !redact |
| 12:17 | <linbot> | Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are. |
| 12:17 | <eagles0513875> | ok |
| 12:17 | <rnowak> | eagles0513875: you're clueless, you can fool yourself all you want, but don't do harm onto others |
| 12:17 | <eagles0513875> | rnowak: when it comes to wordpress im not |
| 12:17 | <rnowak> | please. |
| 12:18 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: Heh, you beat me to it, |
| 12:18 | <eagles0513875> | rnowak: if i didnt know what i was talking about how can u explain me running 6 wordpress based websites |
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| 12:18 | <rnowak> | we've got a swedish term for this, it is called doing someone a björntjänst - even if you mean well, you're not in a position to help them and you only make it worse |
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| 12:20 | * | eagles0513875 goes back to working on what he was doing...i have no idea why people are always out to put me down when i know what im talkin bout if i dunno what the problem is i woudl tell them that i have no idea at least i would have tried my possible solutions to the problem |
| 12:20 | <hawk> | Indeed, the well known "bear favour"... |
| 12:20 | <mwalling> | anyway, now that that's behind us |
| 12:20 | <mwalling> | dan: got some error logs? |
| 12:20 | <eagles0513875> | mwalling: sounds to me at least from what im seeing a vhost issue if hes using vhosts on his apache setup |
| 12:20 | <hawk> | Didn't think much about it until now, but apparently: From a French fable (L’Ours et l’Amateur des jardins by Jean de La Fontaine) in which a tame bear wants to do his master a favor by hitting the fly who sat down on the master's forehead, but hits the fly so hard that the master too is killed. |
| 12:20 | <mwalling> | dan: also, is it something that looks like wordpress saying this, or is it black text on white screen (like the webserver made it)? |
| 12:21 | <dan> | I looked at those text in my /srv/www/mysite.com/logs/ |
| 12:21 | <dan> | but I have no clue |
| 12:21 | <mwalling> | !redact |
| 12:21 | <linbot> | Please don't redact or change things when you pastebin your configs. It's a lot easier for us to debug if we're seeing the same thing you are. |
| 12:21 | <eagles0513875> | dan dont you mean /var/www |
| 12:21 | <mwalling> | dan: and yes, every time you say "mysite.com" i'm going to respond with !redact |
| 12:21 | <mwalling> | dan: because you're not juno. |
| 12:21 | <dan> | ok |
| 12:21 | <rnowak> | hawk: the term is awesome, and the English language is missing out something great for not having a similar one ;) |
| 12:22 | <mwalling> | dan: /var/log/apache2/error.log as well |
| 12:22 | <hawk> | rnowak: Very much so |
| 12:22 | <@Perihelion> | Why can't we just say "bear favors" |
| 12:22 | <@Perihelion> | :< |
| 12:22 | <mwalling> | dan: if apache can't parse the config, it will try to error there too |
| 12:22 | <hawk> | Perihelion: You could, I have no idea why you don't |
| 12:22 | <@Perihelion> | I'll make an effort |
| 12:22 | <rnowak> | Well, most swedes will know what a björntjänst is, most americans etc. wouldn't know what a bear favor is. Maybe we need to work it in |
| 12:23 | <mwalling> | rnowak: i know what ikea is. does that count? |
| 12:23 | <rnowak> | mwalling: damnit |
| 12:23 | <hawk> | mwalling: It's a start, I suppose |
| 12:23 | <dan> | mwalling, sorry, but where exactly do I look for the logs |
| 12:23 | <dan> | ? |
| 12:23 | <mwalling> | dan: [02-04] 12:22:10 < mwalling> dan: /var/log/apache2/error.log as well |
| 12:23 | <dan> | thanks |
| 12:24 | <mwalling> | dan: better starting point: [02-04] 12:20:54 < mwalling> dan: also, is it something that looks like wordpress saying this, or is it black text on white screen (like the webserver made it)? |
| 12:24 | <dan> | no not wordpress |
| 12:24 | <mwalling> | ok, thats a good starting point |
| 12:25 | <eagles0513875> | mwalling: im thinking as he mentioned it above if he has it in a directory he probably doesnt have a vhost setup so apache knows where the files are |
| 12:25 | <KyleXY> | eagles0513875: God knows until we get the config, |
| 12:25 | <mwalling> | eagles0513875: then why don't you tell dan that |
| 12:26 | <dan> | ok so I'm in the /var/log/apache2/error.log |
| 12:26 | <mwalling> | !pb |
| 12:26 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 12:26 | <eagles0513875> | dan: do you have a vhost setup for the site |
| 12:26 | <AlexC_> | mwalling: dan eagles0513875 My quick Google before suggested other wise, this is a WP error and that's definately not an Apache error |
| 12:26 | <mwalling> | AlexC_: when i browse there, i've got nothing, empty responses |
| 12:26 | <KyleXY> | AlexC_: not if it's returning a plain old apache static file? |
| 12:26 | * | KyleXY looks |
| 12:27 | <AlexC_> | mwalling: browse where? |
| 12:27 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: Throw me the domain again? |
| 12:27 | <mwalling> | [02-04][02-04] 12:15:31 < dan> here is the site www.alantemusic.com |
| 12:27 | <mwalling> | /lastlog ftw |
| 12:27 | <KyleXY> | HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request. |
| 12:27 | <KyleXY> | heh |
| 12:27 | <AlexC_> | Ah, ok well that is different to what he initially said |
| 12:27 | <AlexC_> | (I mean the error, not the domain) |
| 12:27 | <KyleXY> | Yeah |
| 12:27 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: it's returning a 500 with an empty page |
| 12:28 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: but still being parsed by php |
| 12:28 | <KyleXY> | X-Powered-By:PHP/5.3.2-1ubuntu4.11 |
| 12:28 | <mwalling> | KyleXY: meh, i didn't look at the response headers |
| 12:28 | <AlexC_> | "The website encountered an error while retrieving http://www.mysite.com/. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly |
| 12:28 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: So it is indeed a wordpress error at this point |
| 12:28 | <mwalling> | KyleXY: *my* wordpress works fine |
| 12:28 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: he might have a good time giving us the error file :) |
| 12:28 | * | mwalling goes to make coffee |
| 12:28 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: /var/www/error or errors, can't recall |
| 12:29 | <dan> | can i use bpaste.net? |
| 12:29 | <hawk> | dan: I don't think you need our permission...? |
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| 12:30 | <dan> | http://bpaste.net/show/rBwEOhFRa4yCyMJqemjn/ |
| 12:31 | <AlexC_> | dan: You'll want to take a peak into /var/log/apache2/vhosts/alantemusic.com_error.log most likely |
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| 12:31 | <dan> | ok |
| 12:31 | <KyleXY> | AlexC_: yeah, |
| 12:31 | <eagles0513875> | dan: do you have a vhost setup if not ill pastebin a sample of mine and help you get that sorted out ubuntu make it very easy to work with vhosts :) |
| 12:32 | <KyleXY> | eagles0513875: ... it's not a vhost issue! jesus |
| 12:32 | <rnowak> | this lasagne is really really good, just saing |
| 12:32 | <rnowak> | saying, too |
| 12:32 | <dan> | I don't think I do.. I was just following the guide did not see anything about vhost |
| 12:32 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: mmm yummy |
| 12:32 | <KyleXY> | dan: we need those error logs man, you're just holding us up now :( |
| 12:33 | <AlexC_> | eagles0513875: If no vhost was configured, he would be getting the default vhost or default Apache page |
| 12:33 | <eagles0513875> | agreed |
| 12:33 | <KyleXY> | AlexC_: it's not because it's being parsed by PHP still |
| 12:33 | <AlexC_> | KyleXY: I know it's not :) |
| 12:33 | <KyleXY> | AlexC_: so he is parsing some sort of PHP, :) |
| 12:33 | * | eagles0513875 abandons tryign to help as all im doing is getting ganged up on |
| 12:34 | <mwalling> | dont you have to do something before you can abandon it? |
| 12:34 | <AlexC_> | touche |
| 12:34 | * | mwalling bows |
| 12:34 | <dan> | alantemusic.com error log is not there, only error.log access.log and other_vhost_access.log |
| 12:34 | <KyleXY> | A "sorry"? .-. or "thanks for realization" heh |
| 12:34 | <eagles0513875> | mwalling: anything i try to say one of you eats my head of |
| 12:34 | <KyleXY> | dan: paste the other one |
| 12:34 | <rnowak> | eagles0513875: take a hint :) |
| 12:34 | <AlexC_> | dan: Did you look in the vhosts directory within that? /var/log/apache/vhosts |
| 12:34 | <AlexC_> | er, I mean apache2, not apache |
| 12:35 | <mwalling> | AlexC_: KyleXY : a couple hours ago i pointed dan to the library article for wordpress |
| 12:35 | <mwalling> | (might be useful background) |
| 12:35 | <staticsafe> | dan: take a look at error.log |
| 12:35 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: Hmm, I'll go take a look |
| 12:35 | <KyleXY> | !library wordpress |
| 12:35 | <linbot> | KyleXY: 1. Manage Web Content with WordPress - http://library.linode.com/web-applications/cms-guides/wordpress | 2. Standalone MySQL Server - http://library.linode.com/databases/mysql/standalone-mysql-server | 3. Rewrite URLs with mod_rewrite and Apache - http://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache/configuration/rewriting-urls |
| 12:35 | <mwalling> | ya, #1 |
| 12:35 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: first one? |
| 12:35 | <KyleXY> | kk |
| 12:35 | <AlexC_> | mwalling: Ah, hours, ouch. Time for other things :P |
| 12:35 | <dan> | vhost is not there |
| 12:35 | <mwalling> | AlexC_: well, no, i think he tried doing it, and this is the end result, hence the pertinance |
| 12:35 | <dan> | not under /var/log/apache2/ |
| 12:36 | <KyleXY> | dan: Hmm, is there anything else important on that box? |
| 12:36 | * | eagles0513875 goes to a channel where i have more friends then enemies |
| 12:36 | <mwalling> | dan: did you ever get a wordpress-looking-page between completing the library article and now? |
| 12:36 | <dan> | maybe other_vhosts_access? but is empty |
| 12:36 | <dan> | the there is error.log and access.log |
| 12:36 | <staticsafe> | dan: again take a look at error.log |
| 12:36 | <KyleXY> | dan: if there is nothing else on that box and just wordpress, reinstall with this stackscript and prosper, http://www.linode.com/stackscripts/view/?StackScriptID=12 |
| 12:36 | <KyleXY> | and it's just* |
| 12:37 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: that's probably my last try at it, heh |
| 12:37 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: He's being painfully slow with getting us the useful logs :( |
| 12:37 | <mwalling> | KyleXY: have pitty, he's on the webchat |
| 12:37 | <dan> | this is from error.log http://bpaste.net/show/rBwEOhFRa4yCyMJqemjn/ |
| 12:38 | <dan> | I thought I gave you that |
| 12:38 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: I know, which is why I think the stackscript it a good idea |
| 12:38 | <mwalling> | dan: you did, but it was lost in the noise |
| 12:38 | <KyleXY> | dan: that's not useful at all, |
| 12:38 | <KyleXY> | the other logs probably are |
| 12:38 | <dan> | like? |
| 12:38 | <mwalling> | dan: KyleXY's right, its not useful, but it *was* exactly what we asked you for, so don't take it wrong :) |
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| 12:38 | <KyleXY> | the other error logs.. |
| 12:38 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: dan: yeah, not trying to be mean, it's just hard to debug |
| 12:39 | <KyleXY> | Rather, it's hard to debug a first time :) |
| 12:39 | <dan> | is cool, you guys are helping, I thank you for that |
| 12:39 | <mwalling> | dan: do you have a real irc client? |
| 12:39 | <staticsafe> | hrm your apache keeps restarting |
| 12:39 | <mwalling> | dan: this channel is irc.oftc.net #linode |
| 12:39 | <KyleXY> | staticsafe: I'm thinking reboots, or him restarting it weirdly. |
| 12:39 | <dan> | Im in as guess |
| 12:39 | <staticsafe> | hmm |
| 12:40 | <KyleXY> | staticsafe: they're spaced out, so that's my guess. |
| 12:40 | <staticsafe> | yea |
| 12:40 | <staticsafe> | ok dan try this, visit your site, then paste your log again |
| 12:40 | <KyleXY> | staticsafe: it's in a different logfile |
| 12:40 | <mwalling> | KyleXY: not always |
| 12:40 | <mwalling> | KyleXY: 404's go to error.log |
| 12:41 | <Katana> | and also show in the access log |
| 12:41 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: it's not a 404 though it seems |
| 12:41 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: because it is getting parsed by php, but some code in the php is returning a 500 |
| 12:41 | <dan> | would the /srv/www/alantemusic.com/logs/error.log help? |
| 12:41 | <AlexC_> | Too many cheifs :P I'll throw in this: `apache2ctl -S` Find out where his vhost config is, get him to pastebin the vhost configuration |
| 12:41 | <KyleXY> | dan: yeah |
| 12:41 | <mwalling> | .... |
| 12:41 | <Katana> | 40x, 30x goes into error log iirc |
| 12:41 | <mwalling> | dan: yes. |
| 12:41 | <KyleXY> | dan: mucho... |
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| 12:41 | <dan> | ok |
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| 12:41 | <Katana> | AlexC_: chiefs* |
| 12:41 | <mwalling> | dan: and for the love of got get on a real client :) |
| 12:41 | <mwalling> | s/got/god/ |
| 12:41 | <Katana> | errr, 50x, not 30x |
| 12:42 | * | AlexC_ throws apricots at Katana |
| 12:42 | <rnowak> | this channel is now about lasagne |
| 12:42 | <Katana> | !gameloss |
| 12:42 | <linbot> | Congratulations! You've lost the game! |
| 12:42 | <mwalling> | rnowak: would you like me to set the topic to lasagne? |
| 12:42 | <rnowak> | mwalling: hah :p |
| 12:42 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: hahah |
| 12:42 | <rnowak> | lasagne and buritos if you wish, mwalling |
| 12:42 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 12:42 | <eagles0513875> | lol |
| 12:43 | <dan> | ok let go get a client, brb |
| 12:43 | <Katana> | what is a burito |
| 12:43 | <mwalling> | KyleXY: sex in a tortilla |
| 12:43 | <Katana> | double R. DOUBLE. R. |
| 12:43 | <KyleXY> | Katana: .-. |
| 12:43 | <Katana> | burito does not exist |
| 12:43 | <Katana> | it is BURRITO |
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| 12:43 | <mwalling> | Katana: you must be new here. i can't spell |
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| 12:44 | <mwalling> | it brings great humor to all around |
| 12:44 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: Katana's been around for a while ;) |
| 12:44 | <rnowak> | and I had no idea how to spell it so I looked how mwalling spelled it, and well, there we go |
| 12:44 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: woo english words you don't know :p |
| 12:44 | <Katana> | mispelling such a holy food like that is a disgrace |
| 12:44 | <rnowak> | KyleXY: not an english word, just saying |
| 12:44 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: Hmm, point taken |
| 12:44 | <mwalling> | "touche"? |
| 12:44 | <rnowak> | touch all the things |
| 12:44 | <Katana> | bad touch mwalling |
| 12:45 | <KyleXY> | :p |
| 12:45 | * | mwalling is being trolled by k's |
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| 12:45 | <Katana> | rnowak: reverse the letters in your name, quick! |
| 12:45 | <rnowak> | is that k for knuts? |
| 12:45 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: Well, english took it right from the spanish, but vice versa too I suppose |
| 12:45 | <mwalling> | Ado: "real client" doesn't mean signing back into the webchat |
| 12:45 | -!- | KyleXY is now known as XY |
| 12:45 | <XY> | mwalling: now by x's :) |
| 12:45 | <Katana> | ʞɐʍouɹ |
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| 12:46 | <mwalling> | Ado: anyway, maybe a fresh connection will be faster |
| 12:46 | <XY> | Ado: Welcome back dan.. |
| 12:46 | <Katana> | XY: i wouldnt' say the spanish came up with that |
| 12:46 | -!- | XY is now known as KyleXY |
| 12:46 | <KyleXY> | Katana: Not sure who did first, honestly |
| 12:46 | <Katana> | KyleXY: more likely native to mexico, if not an americanization on a normal mexican dish |
| 12:46 | <KyleXY> | Katana: eh, I meant mexicans whoops |
| 12:46 | <rnowak> | actually, it originates from alaska |
| 12:46 | <Katana> | i'd imagine it'd be a twist on carnitas or tacos |
| 12:47 | <Katana> | also if you eat tacos with "hard shell tortillas" i hate you |
| 12:47 | <KyleXY> | Katana++ |
| 12:47 | <Katana> | steamed/grilled corn tortillas or gtfo |
| 12:48 | <fouad> | hey |
| 12:48 | <Katana> | flour tortillas for tacos = wtf |
| 12:48 | <fouad> | i'm having some problems with my post-receive hook |
| 12:48 | <fouad> | when i push, i get remote: hooks/post-receive: 14: GIT_WORK_TREE: not found |
| 12:48 | <fouad> | error: cannot run hooks/post-receive: No such file or directory |
| 12:48 | <fouad> | remote git repo is at /git/finchly.git |
| 12:49 | <Ado> | sorry |
| 12:49 | <EugeneKay> | You're looking for #git on freenode |
| 12:49 | <Katana> | fouad: http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=git+post-receive+hook+ |
| 12:49 | <fouad> | EugeneKay: quite depressing, no one responded |
| 12:49 | <mwalling> | Ado: it's all good |
| 12:49 | <Katana> | fouad: likely some of those will lead you to the root cause of the problem |
| 12:49 | <EugeneKay> | Did you stick around for more than 30s? |
| 12:49 | <fouad> | Katana: ok, i'll just keep playing with it |
| 12:50 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: #git on freenode is rather slow at responses :) |
| 12:50 | <EugeneKay> | It sounds like a simple case of your hook is poorly designed. |
| 12:50 | <fouad> | EugeneKay, haha yeah idid |
| 12:50 | <fouad> | i did |
| 12:50 | <fouad> | oh do i have to git init the other dir? |
| 12:51 | <EugeneKay> | KyleXY - I usually give a few wrong answers ;-) |
| 12:51 | <Katana> | fouad: looks like you're setting GIT_WORK_TREE weird? |
| 12:51 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: hahahah |
| 12:51 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: you troll in the CM channels too I see ;) |
| 12:51 | <Katana> | EugeneKay: have you tried restarting the server |
| 12:51 | <EugeneKay> | FWIW, I think GIT_WORK_TREE && git checkout-based hooks are a terribad idea. |
| 12:51 | <EugeneKay> | Better is to use git-archive | tar -x |
| 12:52 | * | Katana doesn't use post-operation hooks, and instead has all his updating set up app-side |
| 12:52 | <Katana> | instead of a push-based update, it's a pull-based update methodology :) |
| 12:53 | <rnowak> | so your application can write to itself? |
| 12:53 | <KyleXY> | Katana: my little gameserver did that, would check if the tag for dev and or rel was updated and update to the appropriate one |
| 12:53 | <Katana> | nope |
| 12:53 | <Katana> | it sets a flag for a cronjob to run the update |
| 12:54 | <EugeneKay> | I've been fiddling with writing a semi-behaving checkout hook meant for webapps, but not gotten very far. |
| 12:54 | <EugeneKay> | The big issue for me is giving gitolite sudo access(for chown/chmod) |
| 12:54 | <EugeneKay> | I'm.... leery. |
| 12:54 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: so would I heh |
| 12:54 | <Katana> | rnowak: though there's nothing wrong with how i update my libs - my includes are openssl signed, if the signature doesn't match the app won't include the phar |
| 12:54 | <KyleXY> | EugeneKay: I prefer at that point to just have it done via the webapp itself. |
| 12:55 | <rnowak> | Katana: sure sure |
| 12:55 | * | KyleXY slaps Katana's php app. |
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| 12:55 | <Katana> | rnowak: https://github.com/koto/phar-util :P |
| 12:56 | <Katana> | rnowak: i should say that php itself will error out on including a phar whose signature is borked |
| 12:56 | <rnowak> | Katana: sure, if you'll trust that |
| 12:57 | <Katana> | rnowak: the same crypto secures ssh, so why not trust it |
| 12:58 | <rnowak> | you're not only trusting the cryptographic library, you're trusting code surrounding it |
| 12:58 | <Katana> | rnowak: at some point you have to say "good enough" |
| 12:58 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: Give me a better one and I'll use it ;) |
| 12:59 | <rnowak> | and if you're updating all parts of your application, what is there to say that you can't go around including signed phars only |
| 12:59 | <Katana> | rnowak: need i remind you that linux itself just had that local priv exploit |
| 12:59 | <Katana> | rnowak: php.ini configuration |
| 12:59 | <rnowak> | KyleXY: a better what? |
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| 12:59 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: crypto library ;) |
| 12:59 | <rnowak> | KyleXY: is your reading comprehension limited or something? |
| 13:00 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: today it might be :p |
| 13:00 | <Ado> | mwalling, here is the log http://justpaste.it/pw5 |
| 13:00 | <rnowak> | not my problem, you go ahead and design bad systems, have fun and good luck |
| 13:00 | <KyleXY> | Ado: x years later! :) |
| 13:00 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: s/you/katana/ |
| 13:01 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 13:01 | <Ado> | lol My photoshop was crashing everything |
| 13:01 | <rnowak> | KyleXY: I don't see me including your name in that message |
| 13:01 | <KyleXY> | rnowak: you said you, after I was talking to you :) |
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| 13:07 | <fouad> | i figured it out |
| 13:07 | <PeteMall> | do nodebalancers support connection throttling? |
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| 13:27 | <mwalling> | hey, Ado's on a real client |
| 13:28 | <Ado> | finally.. downloaded trillian =\ |
| 13:28 | <Ado> | :) |
| 13:28 | <rnowak> | mwalling: you were saying? |
| 13:30 | <Ado> | mwalling did you look at the error.log? |
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| 13:39 | <Ado> | KyleXY, can you look at the look please? |
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| 13:50 | <EugeneKay> | !roulette |
| 13:50 | <linbot> | EugeneKay: *click* |
| 13:52 | <PeteMall> | do node balancers support connection throttling by IP? |
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| 13:54 | <lsabota> | !roulette |
| 13:54 | <linbot> | lsabota: *click* |
| 13:55 | <EugeneKay> | PeteMall - "no" ? |
| 13:55 | <PeteMall> | is that a question? |
| 13:55 | <PeteMall> | :) |
| 13:57 | <EugeneKay> | I don't have any NBs, but if you don't see a button for what you're trying to do it's because it isn't there. |
| 13:57 | <EugeneKay> | Or you're blind. Either way. |
| 13:57 | <PeteMall> | not everything has a button but thanks anyways |
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| 14:00 | <Ado> | ok, I give up linode... thanks for the help fellas! |
| 14:02 | <Peng> | Who's giving up on what? |
| 14:03 | <KyleXY> | Ado: I've already given you a solution |
| 14:03 | <KyleXY> | Ado: I suggest taking it, |
| 14:04 | <Ado> | I never saw it.. maybe I missed it? |
| 14:04 | <KyleXY> | reinstall using a wordpress stackscript if nothing else important is there |
| 14:04 | <Ado> | I'm moving the site with all the content |
| 14:05 | <Ado> | this is the log http://justpaste.it/pw5 |
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| 14:20 | <Katana> | Σ |
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| 14:45 | <tkmedia> | !rr |
| 14:46 | <linbot> | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 14:46 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 14:46 | <tkmedia> | !vend |
| 14:46 | <linbot> | IT VENDS! a Red Bull |
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| 15:02 | <PeteMall> | any of the linode employees around for a pm? |
| 15:03 | <Nivex> | They're probably all out buying supplies for tomorrow's Super Bowl parties |
| 15:04 | <Nivex> | can one of us try to help? |
| 15:04 | <PeteMall> | had some questions about the node balancers and haven't been getting any answers in the channel |
| 15:04 | <PeteMall> | can I assign multiple public IPs to a node balancer? |
| 15:04 | <Nivex> | your best bet is to file a ticket through the manager |
| 15:05 | <PeteMall> | thanks |
| 15:06 | <mwalling> | !community |
| 15:06 | <linbot> | The staff may or may not be around but if you tell us your problem then someone in here may be able to help |
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| 15:06 | <mwalling> | bah |
| 15:06 | <mwalling> | i thought that said something else |
| 15:07 | <Nivex> | maybe !ask ? |
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| 15:08 | <eshlox> | hm, if i want add subdomain then i must add A record with hostname www.name and add this to /etc/hosts? |
| 15:21 | <hawk> | uhh |
| 15:21 | <hawk> | "A record" implies DNS |
| 15:21 | <hawk> | The hosts file is a different mechanism for name resolution |
| 15:23 | <eshlox> | hm |
| 15:24 | <Peng> | eshlox: If you want anyone outside of your computer to be able to access the subdomain, you need to add it to the DNS. You can also add it to /etc/hosts if you want to, but it's not necessar. |
| 15:24 | <Peng> | y |
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| 15:27 | <eshlox> | ok, it works, thanks |
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| 15:39 | <mwalling> | !down ruby-doc.org/ |
| 15:39 | <linbot> | mwalling: http://ruby-doc.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down? |
| 15:39 | <mwalling> | !down ruby-doc.org |
| 15:39 | <linbot> | mwalling: http://ruby-doc.org Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down? |
| 15:39 | <mwalling> | oh, there's the error |
| 15:39 | * | mwalling :( |
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| 15:43 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: heh, wow, didn't know chromium did this: |
| 15:43 | <KyleXY> | mwalling: "Other users are also experiencing difficulties connecting to this site, so you may have to wait a few minutes." |
| 15:43 | <KyleXY> | that's rather nifty |
| 15:43 | <mwalling> | google knows * |
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| 15:47 | <Nivex> | Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of man? The Google knows. |
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| 15:50 | <KyleXY> | Nivex: sure does |
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| 16:10 | <WanderingEnder> | Anyone know if kerpluncgaming uses Linodes? |
| 16:13 | <Tea> | Are all of these sess_* files in my /tmp related to the dd I'm running or is it something I should be panicking about? Never seen them before |
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| 16:15 | <WanderingEnder> | Are they PHP session files? |
| 16:17 | <Tea> | No idea |
| 16:18 | <Tea> | Ah, looks like they |
| 16:18 | <Tea> | are |
| 16:18 | <Tea> | previous_url|blablabla |
| 16:18 | <mbreslin> | dns lookups are udp or tcp |
| 16:18 | <Tea> | I don't like 'em. |
| 16:18 | <mbreslin> | question mark |
| 16:21 | <purrdeta> | mbreslin: udp normally but if the size is too big, they can do tcp |
| 16:21 | <mbreslin> | thanks |
| 16:21 | <purrdeta> | :D np |
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| 16:22 | <mbreslin> | Your DNS server (possibly run by your ISP) appears to have no access to the IPv6 Internet, or is not configured to use it. This may in the future restrict your ability to reach IPv6-only sites |
| 16:22 | <mbreslin> | i keep failing this part but i think it's because my ip6tables rules are too strict |
| 16:23 | <Peng> | Blocking TCP DNS queries is a good way to cause a strange, inconsistent problem that will take a long time to notice and diagnose. :) |
| 16:23 | <Peng> | mbreslin: Possibly, but unlikely. What DNS server are you using? Do you run your own? |
| 16:24 | <mbreslin> | well i'm sure it's on my end because when i flush rules and default accept everything it passes |
| 16:25 | <Peng> | Oh? |
| 16:25 | <Peng> | mbreslin: /etc/resolv.conf. What recursive DNS servers are you using? |
| 16:26 | <mbreslin> | one second i'm adding rules |
| 16:26 | <mbreslin> | ip6tables v1.3.8: unknown protocol `udb' specified |
| 16:26 | <mbreslin> | TYPING IS HARD |
| 16:27 | <Peng> | mbreslin: The test-ipv6 message you got is about your recursive DNS server's ability to resolve over IPv6, not about the connection between you and your recursive DNS servers. So it's only something within your control if you're running your own recursive DNS server. |
| 16:27 | <dcraig> | does anyone happen to have any suggestions for a "cloud-based" data backup service for windows and os x computers? |
| 16:28 | <dcraig> | something enterprisey |
| 16:28 | <dcraig> | and suitable for an organization with like 100 computers |
| 16:28 | <mbreslin> | Peng: 2607:f428:1::5353:1 and 2607:f428:2::5353:1 |
| 16:29 | <Peng> | mbreslin: Do you run them? |
| 16:29 | <mbreslin> | no no |
| 16:29 | <mbreslin> | charter |
| 16:29 | <Peng> | mbreslin: So it's Charter's fault, not yours. :) |
| 16:30 | <Peng> | mbreslin: It means that even though you can query Charter's recursive DNS servers over IPv6, they do not use IPv6 when contacting authoritative servers. |
| 16:31 | <Peng> | Google Public DNS and OpenDNs have the same issue. Kind of annoys me. It's not like it actually matters, but it feels kind of half-assed. |
| 16:31 | <Peng> | Linode's DNS resolvers do *not* have the issue. :D |
| 16:31 | <mbreslin> | i understand. my retort is that it has no issues when i flush accept on all chains |
| 16:31 | <mbreslin> | flush and accept* |
| 16:31 | <Peng> | Which is bizarre. |
| 16:31 | * | Peng shrugs |
| 16:31 | <purrdeta> | mbreslin: do you have an IPv6 from charter?! |
| 16:31 | <mbreslin> | i do. |
| 16:31 | <Peng> | My retort is that I have no idea then. Maybe your computer is possessed. :D |
| 16:32 | <purrdeta> | mbreslin: deets. how? 624? |
| 16:32 | <mbreslin> | 6rd |
| 16:32 | <purrdeta> | ah yes |
| 16:32 | <purrdeta> | How does one set that up anyway? |
| 16:32 | <mbreslin> | !google charter 6rd |
| 16:32 | <linbot> | mbreslin: IPv6 - Charter: <http://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/Support.aspx?SupportArticleID=2665>;; Charter 6RD Configuration on Cisco IOS (IPv6) - Charter Community: <http://community.charter.com/t5/Speed-and-Connectivity/Charter-6RD-Configuration-on-Cisco-IOS-IPv6/td-p/14453>;; [HSI] ipv6 - Charter Internet/TV | DSLReports Forums: <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25958315-HSI-ipv6>;; Charter 6rd (2 more messages) |
| 16:32 | <purrdeta> | does it lag much? |
| 16:32 | <mbreslin> | no that's why i like it, it's very smooth |
| 16:33 | <mbreslin> | i don't notice any more latency than ipv4 tbh |
| 16:33 | <purrdeta> | Excellent. You have provided me with excellent and invaluable info. :P |
| 16:33 | <Nivex> | low latency tunnel will be damn close to native |
| 16:34 | <mbreslin> | comcast did it too but when the trial ended they turned if off luckily charter hasn't |
| 16:34 | <mbreslin> | hopefully dual stack by june |
| 16:34 | <Nivex> | that's about my only annoyance with HE: I'm 9 hops and 25ms from my tserv (used to be worse) |
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| 16:37 | <Peng> | 25 ms isn't low latency? |
| 16:37 | <mbreslin> | when i open/pinhole/whatever a port to ssh to my home pc i usually do something like ip6tables -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 16:37 | <mbreslin> | this works fine wouldn't the same thing apply for dns? |
| 16:37 | <Peng> | Forward? Not input? |
| 16:38 | <mbreslin> | maybe that's it but i don't know why i'm able to get in to ssh that way |
| 16:38 | <mbreslin> | without input |
| 16:38 | <Nivex> | Peng: my first hop is only 13ms. if your tunnel provider is within the ISP, additional latency will be next to nothing |
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| 16:39 | <mbreslin> | Nivex: generally! |
| 16:40 | <mbreslin> | Nivex: unless your isp sucks or they use 1 gateway for an entire national isp and it's not close to you and they don't bother to do proper peering |
| 16:40 | <mbreslin> | that said it's pretty good ;p |
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| 16:43 | <AndyWarburton81> | Hey guys… anyone have any idea how to identify which mailserver is running on my Linode. I set it up ages ago and can't remember for the life of me :( |
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| 16:44 | <hawk> | I get around 13ms or so to my closest HE tserv, one of my main issues with using my HE tunnel is that with with any service providing "local" CDN/mirror servers like to pick things on the other side of the world. |
| 16:48 | <hawk> | Let's just pick whatever is best for Fremont, California... Everyone knows that's where HE is :P |
| 16:48 | <mbreslin> | i'm ~1.5 hours south of fremont and i still found my he tunnel quite laggy |
| 16:49 | <Nivex> | physical distance seems to have little bearing on network distance |
| 16:49 | <mbreslin> | Peng: i was using this website http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/ipv6-network-tools/online-ipv6-port-scanner.php to check and i didn't actually try to ssh in, the forward line does make the port show open but i was unable to ssh in so i was doing it wrong basically |
| 16:50 | <Nivex> | I'm only 3 miles from campus but I have to go clear across the state and back. |
| 16:50 | <mbreslin> | i'm sure input will solve my problems |
| 16:50 | <mbreslin> | Nivex: that's just because they don't like you |
| 16:51 | <Nivex> | it's TWC. They don't like anyone. |
| 16:53 | <hawk> | Nivex: Fort short distances, not necessarily so much. For long distances on the other hand...... |
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| 17:28 | <Kunda> | do you guys recommend creating an SPF record to increase the validity of my email server, aka decrease the chances that email servers will blacklist by mistake ? |
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| 17:30 | <lelldorianx> | My VPS is so much faster than my crappy shared server :D |
| 17:31 | <lelldorianx> | Average page load time on my (really, really bad) shared server was 9.8 seconds. I'm down to 3.7 seconds on my VPS! |
| 17:31 | <staticsafe> | Kunda: yes |
| 17:32 | <Kunda> | staticsafe, where can I read more about how to implement that..Haven't seen anything in the linode docs |
| 17:34 | <squircle> | Kunda: spf.org |
| 17:34 | <squircle> | err |
| 17:34 | <squircle> | no |
| 17:34 | <squircle> | openspf.net |
| 17:34 | <staticsafe> | squircle: lulz |
| 17:34 | <squircle> | Kunda: it's literally just a TXT record, openspf.net describes it all for you |
| 17:35 | <Kunda> | thx |
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| 17:51 | <lelldorianx> | Anyone have any suggestions for me to research to decrease page load time even more? I'll do all the reading, just need to be pointed in a direction. Maybe xcache? |
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| 17:55 | <EugeneKay> | Varnish. |
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| 18:02 | <Kunda> | where do I add SPF in Linode DNS manager ? |
| 18:02 | <squircle> | Kunda: it's a TXT record |
| 18:02 | <Kunda> | afaict adding it in the TXT record is deprecated |
| 18:03 | <Kunda> | ok |
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| 18:03 | <squircle> | well the linode manager doesn't support SPF records, so... |
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| 18:03 | <Kunda> | ok |
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| 18:03 | <squircle> | you can either put it in the TXT record, or run your own DNS server |
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| 18:05 | <Kunda> | don't think I will take long to make a decision on that one :) |
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| 18:06 | <squircle> | Kunda: TXT SPF records are far more prevalent than straight-SPF records anyways afaict |
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| 18:10 | <Kunda> | this is not a fun task, learning about spf |
| 18:10 | <Kunda> | not fishing for help...just making an observation |
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| 18:18 | <Kyh> | Well, networking stuff is never easy |
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| 18:31 | <GLaDOSDan> | Oh yay, another paypal chargeback dispute I have to phone them about |
| 18:31 | <GLaDOSDan> | Dealing with paypal is always such a pleasure -_- |
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| 18:48 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 18:48 | <Kyh> | lol paypal |
| 18:51 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 18:51 | <Katana> | lol paypal |
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| 18:59 | <Katana> | !gameloss |
| 18:59 | <linbot> | Congratulations! You've lost the game! |
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| 19:02 | <Y_Ichiro> | !cplusplus |
| 19:02 | <Y_Ichiro> | !help |
| 19:02 | <linbot> | Y_Ichiro: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 19:03 | <squircle> | !botsnack |
| 19:03 | <linbot> | thanks, squircle! |
| 19:03 | <Y_Ichiro> | o.O that's helpful |
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| 19:16 | <Solver> | does the term 'casual employment' make sense in the US? |
| 19:17 | <Kyh> | Solver: yes, most states they can fire you for no reason (or even a BS reason) |
| 19:17 | <Solver> | it is common in Australian English (and is mentioned in labour law). I have found references in the US but I wonder if it mans the same thing |
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| 19:18 | <Solver> | Kyh: yes that's certainly consistent with the definition I know :) |
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| 19:18 | <Solver> | either side can end the relationship at any time without reason in a casual employment agreement |
| 19:19 | <Solver> | this is considered a feature by many casual employees in australia, btw |
| 19:19 | <Kyh> | hmmm |
| 19:19 | <Kyh> | depends on the contract |
| 19:19 | <Kyh> | In NZ, you can hire outside contracters to do a thing <x> but they're not employee's so you don't report their tax/earnings nor do they get holiday/sick leave |
| 19:20 | <Solver> | ah, contracting is different to what I mean |
| 19:20 | <Solver> | casual employees work by the hour as agreed with no expectation of any specific amount of work int the future |
| 19:20 | <Solver> | but they are employees |
| 19:21 | <Solver> | just wondering as I'm trying to describe something in a US labor context |
| 19:21 | <Kyh> | Oh |
| 19:21 | <Kyh> | You mean Mexicans, then? |
| 19:21 | <Kyh> | :P |
| 19:21 | <Kyh> | Or just "part time" workers. |
| 19:22 | <Solver> | i is quite common for casual employees to ork specific hours on agreement (even full-time) but the employee could literally phone in the morning and say "i'm never coming in again" |
| 19:22 | <Solver> | Kyh: :) |
| 19:22 | <Solver> | it is common for waiters, etc, in australia. casual employees get a higher rate of pay than if they worked under a contract |
| 19:23 | <Kyh> | hmm |
| 19:23 | <Tea> | Hm. Got my disk image with bs=64k and gzip -c, resulting image is 11.9GB uncompressed, disk is 19GB. Not sure if correct. |
| 19:23 | <Tea> | Can't imagine any compression engine shaving off a whole 8GB |
| 19:24 | <Peng> | Tea: It's possible you have gigs of zeros, which gzip should compress pretty nicely. |
| 19:25 | <Tea> | Ahh |
| 19:25 | <Tea> | That makes sense |
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| 19:32 | * | Solver got 18:1 compression on real-world database dumps recetly... 10GB DB down to a bit over 500MB.. sweet :) |
| 19:34 | <Tea> | Can I have your autograph? |
| 19:34 | <EugeneKay> | 10GB of .sql or 10GB of "table size" ? |
| 19:35 | <EugeneKay> | On-disk data structures have this annoying habit of wasting KB in favor of seek speed |
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| 19:35 | <Solver> | the uncompressed mysql dumb was 10GB |
| 19:35 | <Tea> | This is going to be a very long decompression |
| 19:35 | <EugeneKay> | pigz / unpigz |
| 19:35 | <EugeneKay> | They do wonders |
| 19:36 | <Kyh> | <3 pigz |
| 19:36 | <@mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 19:36 | <rnowak> | mmm bacon |
| 19:36 | <Tea> | pigz eh |
| 19:36 | <Tea> | Oh, "exploits multiple processors and cores" |
| 19:37 | <Tea> | I'm decompressing this thing on a hyperthreading 1.6GHz Intel Atom :P |
| 19:37 | <EugeneKay> | It helps. |
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| 19:42 | <ricebox> | hi |
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| 19:49 | <Tea> | mount -o loop can't read superblock |
| 19:49 | <Tea> | ha |
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| 20:29 | <squircle> | the world we live in is amazing. |
| 20:29 | <squircle> | i'm on the niagara escarpment in my car overlooking hamilton, ssh'd into my linode and on irc, updating wordpress. |
| 20:29 | <squircle> | sure, the latency is huge, but you wouldn't have been able to do this a decade ago. |
| 20:29 | <squircle> | amazing. |
| 20:29 | <rnowak> | ... |
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| 20:30 | <squircle> | and really, I just said that because I wanted to test the latency of this connection, and by the fact that all four of my messages popped up at nearly the same time... |
| 20:30 | * | squircle returns to his corner |
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| 20:35 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 20:35 | <staticsafe> | lol |
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| 20:44 | <Katana> | let there be enterprise software! |
| 20:44 | <Katana> | and there was rnowak. |
| 20:44 | <Katana> | and...it was disappointing. |
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| 20:44 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 20:44 | <staticsafe> | lol |
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| 20:52 | <Nivex> | hmm... anyone managed to use tmux inside Finnix? I try it in a KVM instance here at home and it just hangs. |
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| 21:11 | <staticsafe> | i don't think you are supposed to be using stuff like that in a recovery image :P |
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| 21:11 | <Peng> | staticsafe: Sure you should. |
| 21:14 | <rnowak> | nohup all the things |
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| 21:25 | <bob__> | anyone around? i basically just followed the directions in the library for compiling a custom kernel |
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| 21:25 | <bob__> | http://p.linode.com/6254 |
| 21:25 | <bob__> | getting some errors though, trying to boot |
| 21:25 | <bob__> | on ubuntu 11.10, trying to compile 3.2.4 |
| 21:25 | <bob__> | basically copied the linode config and added apparmor.. |
| 21:26 | <Kyh> | uh |
| 21:26 | <Kyh> | that's IO errors. |
| 21:26 | <Nivex> | staticsafe: yeah, fire up tmux, start one copy, open a new window, start another |
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| 21:26 | <bob__> | i8042: No controller found |
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| 21:28 | <Kyh> | wait, are you using pv-grub for this, on your linode? |
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| 21:28 | <bob__> | Kyh: yes |
| 21:30 | <Nemykal> | if i do 'dig any domain.com', that ought to show CNAME's right? |
| 21:32 | <Nemykal> | ah nevermind, i was understanding it wrong. |
| 21:32 | <Kyh> | ? |
| 21:32 | <Nemykal> | dont worry |
| 21:37 | <Peng> | Or 'dig example.com cname' |
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| 21:39 | -!- | maku` is now known as maku`off |
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| 21:46 | <bob2> | or dig example.com any @ns1.example.com |
| 21:47 | <bob2> | bob__, do you really want to compile your own kernel |
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| 21:47 | <bob__> | bob2: yes i think i figured out my issue though (hopefully) i'll let you know shortly |
| 21:49 | <EugeneKay> | OH GOD SO MUCH BOB |
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| 21:50 | <bob2> | shutup |
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| 21:52 | <bob__> | nope, same issue :\ |
| 21:52 | <bob2> | what is the linode kernel missing? |
| 21:52 | <bob__> | apparmor |
| 21:52 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 21:52 | <bob2> | lol |
| 21:52 | <bob2> | oh well |
| 21:52 | <bob__> | hehe |
| 21:53 | <bob2> | use the linode config file |
| 21:53 | <bob2> | and make oldconfig |
| 21:53 | <bob__> | yeah i did |
| 21:53 | <bob2> | then turn on app armor |
| 21:53 | <bob__> | and then make menuconfig turned on app armor |
| 21:53 | <bob2> | then enjoy fiddling |
| 21:53 | <bob__> | http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/custom-instances/pv-grub-custom-compiled-kernel |
| 21:53 | <bob__> | followed those directions.. |
| 21:53 | <bob__> | get all kinds of I/O errors :( |
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| 21:55 | <bob__> | any notions why that would be with 3.2.4 ? |
| 21:56 | <bob__> | basically booted the 3.2.1-linode40 kernel, copied the config, added apparmor support, compiled, installed and setup grub based on those instructions |
| 21:57 | <Peng> | What kinda I/O errors? Barriers? |
| 21:58 | <bob__> | http://p.linode.com/6255 |
| 21:58 | <bob__> | i think there are more errors before but they scrolled.. |
| 21:58 | <mbreslin> | Peng: an input established,related rule fixed all my problems |
| 22:02 | <bob__> | booting linode40 EXT3-fs: barriers not enabled |
| 22:03 | <Peng> | bob__: I could've sworn it would be the barrier issue... It might still be, but I dunno... |
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| 22:04 | <bob__> | Peng: it may be, thats not my custom kernel thats the kernel i copied the config from |
| 22:04 | <bob__> | only thing i changed as adding apparmor support |
| 22:07 | <bob__> | can you tell me more about the barrier issue? |
| 22:08 | <Peng> | bob__: Barriers were enabled by default around 3.2; this causes explosions and read-only fses on almost all Linode hosts, so they have to be disabled. |
| 22:08 | <bob__> | ah ok |
| 22:09 | <bob__> | if i copied the linode40 kernel config though, it should be disabled right? |
| 22:11 | <Peng> | bob__: 3.2.1-linode40 disabled it through the kernel command line (rootflags=nobarrier), not the configuration. |
| 22:11 | <bob__> | ok so i'll disable it in the configuration |
| 22:13 | <bob__> | or i can add rootflags=nobarrier in menu.lst ..? |
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| 22:18 | <bob__> | well so far still getting all the udev errors.. |
| 22:19 | <bob__> | Peng: how can i see what other rootflags linode40 kernel might have? |
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| 22:25 | <bob__> | looks like cat /proc/cmdline tells me but i don't see rootflags=nobarrier |
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| 22:35 | <Peng> | bob__: ....Well, I do. Maybe it's changed since. |
| 22:36 | <bob__> | Peng: interesting. i added all the options from /proc/cmdline and rootflags=nobarrier.. we'll see |
| 22:36 | <bob__> | ha seems to be working |
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| 22:38 | <bob__> | http://p.linode.com/6256 |
| 22:38 | <bob__> | not seeing all the nasty errors, but it hangs right there |
| 22:40 | <Peng> | bob__: Has the node hung, or just the console? |
| 22:40 | <bob__> | just the console, i can ssh in |
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| 22:47 | <chesty> | bob1: urmom cleans your toilet |
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| 23:01 | <Peng> | bob__: "XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/console/0" doesn't sound good. |
| 23:02 | <bob__> | yeah |
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| 23:03 | <bob__> | yeah i think i'm over custom compiling this kernel, i'll just go with the distro supplied one :/ |
| 23:03 | <bob__> | was trying to keep it as minimal as possible |
| 23:06 | <retro|blah> | I see the same thing in my dmesg but no issues here... |
| 23:06 | <retro|blah> | XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/console/0 |
| 23:08 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Which firewall: LAMP & Basic Firewall StackScript in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8388>; |
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| 23:11 | <Peng> | bob__: As if the Linode kernel is minimal? |
| 23:11 | <bob__> | hehe |
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| 23:25 | <bob__> | well its working with the distro supplied kernel, console stille dies |
| 23:27 | <dwfreed> | !mtr-newark dallas1.linode.com |
| 23:27 | <linbot> | dwfreed: [mtr] dallas1.linode.com: 15 hops, ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.network: 20.0%/31.6ms, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms |
| 23:30 | <rnowak> | and you've told it to use hvc0 as console? |
| 23:34 | <bob__> | yes |
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| 23:42 | <bob__> | well distro supplied kernel works |
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| 23:55 | <linbot> | New news from forums: should I creat two confs,one's piont to www,one without www in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8385>; |
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