| --- | Log | opened Thu Dec 01 00:00:59 2011 |
| --- | Day | changed Thu Dec 01 2011 |
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| 00:08 | <chesty> | i signed up to aws and didn't really use it, I got billed 1c, I wonder how much that cost them to recover the 1c? |
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| 00:24 | <Peng> | Pfft, it's Amazon. They probably have such high-volume contracts that the credit card companies pay *them* for transactions. |
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| 00:27 | <linbot> | New news from forums: linode and cloudflare in Performance and Tuning <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7277>; |
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| 00:34 | <MTecknology> | Peng: probably not, they probably work about the same as a bank in that reqard |
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| 00:35 | <MTecknology> | the 1 cent bill probably cost them about a cent of computer thinking time and no transaction cost |
| 00:39 | <chesty> | with openssl, how do you specify cakey.pem -> Error opening CA private key ../../CA/private/cakey.pem |
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| 00:49 | <chesty> | forget it |
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| 00:53 | <bob2> | happy mailman day. |
| 00:53 | <chesty> | that was 16 hours ago |
| 00:54 | <bob2> | pft. |
| 00:54 | <MTecknology> | mailman pisses me off |
| 00:54 | <bob2> | mail software is terrible, film at 11 |
| 00:54 | <chesty> | how does it go? happy reminder day that mailman stores its passwords in text |
| 00:55 | <MTecknology> | g'night |
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| 00:55 | <Peng> | Happy Linode Billing Day, you mean |
| 00:56 | <EugeneKay> | CRAM-MD5: Because fuck you |
| 00:57 | <rnowak> | hash all the things |
| 00:57 | <EugeneKay> | Except for the password in the database |
| 00:57 | <EugeneKay> | ejabberd is just as bad |
| 00:57 | <bob2> | tunneling everything over ssl wasn't easy long ago |
| 00:58 | <Peng> | Worse, Mailman sends passwords in cleartext over email! |
| 00:58 | <Peng> | ....I'm getting deja vu. |
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| 00:58 | <EugeneKay> | And it isn't 1996 anymore. I think we can move to proper algorithms. |
| 00:58 | <rnowak> | negotiating connection, please hold. Time remaining: 8m 49s. |
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| 01:05 | <EugeneKay> | I should work out how to auth my loonix boxen against ldap one of these days |
| 01:06 | <bob2> | nsscache |
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| 01:10 | <Peng> | I think Mozilla's written about their current LDAP setup. |
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| 01:24 | <philip--> | i got a ticket answered in 4 minutes flat, that's pretty sweet |
| 01:25 | <Peng> | I know. It gets weird dealing with normal companies where tickets are 6-24 hours. :X |
| 01:25 | <bd_> | it wasn't always this fast! :) |
| 01:26 | <bd_> | remember when it was just caker, tasaro, and mikegrb? If they were all asleep/busy it could take some time to respond, IIRC |
| 01:26 | <bd_> | but then they hired over 9000 support people and all was well |
| 01:27 | <philip--> | i wasn't expecting it |
| 01:27 | <philip--> | usually companies yank my chain for a day or two |
| 01:27 | <philip--> | :P |
| 01:28 | <rnowak> | that can be arranged too, just annoy Praefectus enough |
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| 01:32 | <Peng> | Hmmm. I've had 2 tickets in 2008, 5 in 2009, 2 in 2010, and 22 so far in 2011. O_O |
| 01:33 | <philip--> | 1 ever since starting |
| 01:33 | <philip--> | :] |
| 01:33 | <StevenK> | What happened in 2011? |
| 01:33 | <philip--> | and i'm in fremont, too |
| 01:33 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:33 | <philip--> | (lol) |
| 01:33 | <philip--> | :)D |
| 01:33 | <EugeneKay> | Actually, I think I'll be using pam_krb5 |
| 01:33 | <bd_> | first ticket: #34009, 2007-12-27: "Xen Public Beta" |
| 01:34 | <Xuefer> | how do i add kernel parameter? |
| 01:35 | <bd_> | Xuefer: http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/custom-instances/pv-grub-howto |
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| 01:37 | <EugeneKay> | Hm, I wonder if it's possible to store SSH pubkeys in AD somewhere and have openssh check against them in addition to authorized_keys... |
| 01:39 | <EugeneKay> | A-ha, there's an AuthorizedKeysCommand config sshd_config. Wrapper scripts, to the rescue! |
| 01:40 | <rnowak> | if(password=='hunter2') return 1; |
| 01:41 | <EugeneKay> | SECURE ENOUGH |
| 01:42 | <Peng> | That sounds like a job for PAM or LDAP or something. |
| 01:43 | <rnowak> | just found the best logo and name ever, just gotta share: http://learnyousomeerlang.com/ |
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| 01:43 | <StevenK> | I thought AD can queried by LDAP ... |
| 01:43 | <StevenK> | I could be wrong |
| 01:43 | <EugeneKay> | AD is LDAP |
| 01:43 | <EugeneKay> | Kinda |
| 01:44 | <Peng> | I was gonna say using AuthorizedKeysCommand sounds like a crazy hack, but it actually sounds pretty elegant... |
| 01:44 | <Xuefer> | bd_: all i want is just init=something. pv-grub require me complile kernel :( |
| 01:45 | <Peng> | Xuefer: Indeed. |
| 01:45 | <bd_> | Xuefer: well, you can't directly set init=something |
| 01:45 | <bd_> | but you can replace /sbin/init |
| 01:45 | <EugeneKay> | Yeah, just a lil bash script to query against ldap(with a cache) and spit back out the pubkeys. |
| 01:45 | <bd_> | linode also allows setting to init=/bin/bash for recovery |
| 01:45 | <vodka> | I thought you could in the linoe manager |
| 01:45 | <EugeneKay> | If it falsl over, ssh auths against the regular AuthorizedKeysFile |
| 01:45 | <bd_> | vodka: normal or init=/bin/bash or single user mode |
| 01:45 | <bd_> | you can't input init=/something/else |
| 01:46 | <EugeneKay> | If THAT doesn't work, it would auth against pam_krb5. If THAT doesn't work, /etc/shadow. |
| 01:46 | <EugeneKay> | And if that doesn't work, gtfo ;-) |
| 01:46 | <Peng> | EugeneKay: PAM should be able to do it too, but...it's PAM. :D |
| 01:46 | <bd_> | Xuefer: what distro are you on? |
| 01:46 | <EugeneKay> | I don't feel like writing a PAM wrapper script for pubkeys |
| 01:46 | <vodka> | ah you're right (logged in to check ;p) |
| 01:46 | <@Praefectus> | rnowak: shush |
| 01:46 | <EugeneKay> | I can manage a bashish tho |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | Xuefer: if on ubuntu or debian, you can do dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /sbin/init, then create a shell script in /sbin/init to do whatever. Make sure to make it executable. |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | Keep in mind your system will be unbootable once you run dpkg-divert until you create a replacement init |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | also, your shell script must end with an exec into the new shell |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | it _must_ be an exec |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | er, new init |
| 01:48 | <pharaun> | exec all the things |
| 01:49 | <rnowak> | exec pharaun |
| 01:49 | <bd_> | also the divert will rename your old init to /sbin/init.distrib |
| 01:49 | * | pharaun segmentation fault |
| 01:49 | <pharaun> | x_x |
| 01:49 | <rnowak> | rm pharaun |
| 01:49 | <pharaun> | nooooooooooooooo |
| 01:50 | <rnowak> | useless >:( |
| 01:50 | <vodka> | try -f |
| 01:50 | * | pharaun goes poof and leaves a gift of rm -rf / |
| 01:50 | <pharaun> | i had a hidden daemon that would rm -rf / if i went poof |
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| 01:52 | <Xuefer> | bd_: gentoo linux |
| 01:52 | <bd_> | Xuefer: you're on your own :) |
| 01:52 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:52 | <Xuefer> | LOL |
| 01:52 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:52 | <pharaun> | gentoo... lol |
| 01:52 | <EugeneKay> | Oh, hey, ssh-ldap-helper \o/ |
| 01:53 | <philip--> | there arem ore funs things to do, like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/his/terminal |
| 01:53 | <Xuefer> | still wonder why linode don't open argument for free configuration. for their security? |
| 01:53 | <bd_> | 99.99% of people don't need it, and the remaining 0.01% can just run pv-grub |
| 01:53 | <bd_> | hell, you're running gentoo, why _aren't_ you running your own kernel? |
| 01:54 | <pharaun> | hell, why are you running on linode |
| 01:54 | <pharaun> | you should be putting together your own hardware |
| 01:54 | <EugeneKay> | Xen is too mainstream for Gentoo users |
| 01:54 | <EugeneKay> | Hell, so is x86 |
| 01:54 | <bd_> | pharaun: out of discrete transistors |
| 01:54 | <pharaun> | bd_: that's a crying shame |
| 01:54 | * | vodka has a pile of bricks and some roof sheets for when you start building your datacenter |
| 01:55 | <vodka> | or do you have to emerge them from source too? |
| 01:55 | <rnowak> | I will be there to provide debian when the mental breakdown starts |
| 01:56 | <rnowak> | or ends |
| 01:56 | <pharaun> | I will also provide glue |
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| 01:56 | <vodka> | awww |
| 01:56 | <bd_> | pharaun: you mean, you'll provide horse DNA |
| 01:56 | <pharaun> | bd_: ah right, good catch my good sir |
| 01:57 | <pharaun> | they'll need to grow a horse then shoot it and make glue |
| 01:57 | <rnowak> | boiled horse DNA, no longer much DNA |
| 01:57 | <philip--> | one must create punch cards by hand for gentoo for the analytical machine, and prepping columns for gentoo for the difference engine, only then are you a true gentooer |
| 01:58 | <rnowak> | you're not a true gentooer unless machines running other flavors of linux turn themselves off when you enter the room |
| 01:59 | <pharaun> | no |
| 01:59 | <pharaun> | you must have created the universe |
| 01:59 | <pharaun> | is that emerge universe ? |
| 01:59 | <rnowak> | http://www.razerzone.com/swtor/keyboard just got that linked to me, I don't even. |
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| 02:00 | <philip--> | http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.199816600/categoryId.35208800 i have this |
| 02:01 | <Peng> | MODEL M MODEL M MODEL M |
| 02:01 | <rnowak> | I'm running http://kaseystewart.com/wp-content/uploads/first_mouse_3.jpeg |
| 02:01 | <philip--> | went to a friend's house, he had a "regular" optical mouse that came free with some other computer part he bought from newegg. yeah i could barely use it, thing felt so kludgy. he really got sick of my complaints |
| 02:01 | <rnowak> | I would too; none of your business |
| 02:02 | <Peng> | I replaced my old IntelliMouse Explorer with a Razer. Lovely. Feet came off, though. Now I use a laptop trackpad... |
| 02:03 | <philip--> | their product images of my mouse look shopped though, can tell by the pixels and having seen a few mice in my day |
| 02:03 | <rnowak> | I have, unfortunately, been looking at the apple magic pad. Mice just suck for most usage, and trackballs... I don't know, still don't like em |
| 02:03 | <rnowak> | magic trackpad, apparently |
| 02:04 | <pharaun> | <- trackballs |
| 02:04 | <philip--> | looks neat, the "magic" in the name is flamebait calling my name though |
| 02:05 | <chesty> | SpaceHobo: don't you like being tickled? |
| 02:05 | <philip--> | why they have to treat people as if they're stupid, insinuating that their product works by magic |
| 02:05 | <philip--> | normal company: make an optical mouse |
| 02:05 | <philip--> | apple: "magic" touch pad |
| 02:05 | <philip--> | nice |
| 02:06 | <rnowak> | I buy any product that has magic in the name |
| 02:06 | <philip--> | xD |
| 02:06 | <rnowak> | like pharaun's magic glue |
| 02:06 | * | philip-- giggles |
| 02:07 | <pharaun> | >_> |
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| 02:07 | <pharaun> | Magical Magic! |
| 02:08 | <chesty> | pharaun: i snuck into your workplace and configured your workstation to make a fart sound every time you double click |
| 02:09 | <pharaun> | chesty: its muted 24/7 |
| 02:09 | <chesty> | it appears to be muted, yes |
| 02:09 | <pharaun> | with what speaker? |
| 02:09 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 02:09 | <pharaun> | and lol i run osx at work lol |
| 02:10 | <pharaun> | i have no need for double click or right click or anything lols |
| 02:10 | <rnowak> | you jelly, because you do not have a right click |
| 02:10 | <chesty> | that's why i chose double click, so it happens rarely |
| 02:11 | <pharaun> | chesty: but how |
| 02:11 | <pharaun> | i cannot right click on osx? |
| 02:11 | <pharaun> | this is forbidden |
| 02:11 | <pharaun> | same with double click |
| 02:12 | <Kos> | o.o |
| 02:12 | <EugeneKay> | MIDDLE CLICK! |
| 02:12 | <pharaun> | you shall click once, not twice, not zero time, only once |
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| 02:13 | <pharaun> | *gasp* linode can travel backward in time |
| 02:13 | <pharaun> | its still the 30th here, i just got a invoice from linode on dec 1st |
| 02:14 | <k00pa> | I am from the future! |
| 02:14 | <k00pa> | 1th here |
| 02:14 | <pharaun> | unpossible |
| 02:14 | <pharaun> | there is only one true time, and this time is NOW |
| 02:15 | <@Praefectus> | pharaun: did you forget to take your medication again? |
| 02:17 | <pharaun> | Praefectus: what medication? |
| 02:17 | <@Praefectus> | the anti-timetravel pills |
| 02:17 | <pharaun> | orly, oh... yeah i did |
| 02:17 | <pharaun> | i see the bottle over there |
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| 02:19 | <EugeneKay> | Alcohol is a great time travel drug |
| 02:19 | <EugeneKay> | I've not been able to figure out how to make it work backwards yet |
| 02:19 | <EugeneKay> | Maybe a higher dosage |
| 02:20 | <pharaun> | >_> 0_o o_0 |
| 02:20 | <pharaun> | the laptop configuration page said 4gb of ram |
| 02:20 | <pharaun> | i'm pretty certain i ordered it with 8 |
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| 02:21 | <rnowak> | :O |
| 02:21 | <EugeneKay> | Dat 32bit |
| 02:23 | <pharaun> | rnowak: exactly |
| 02:23 | <pharaun> | i have a pdf with my actual order it states 8gb |
| 02:23 | <pharaun> | but this "status of your order" states 4gb |
| 02:23 | <pharaun> | 0_o |
| 02:23 | <EugeneKay> | Dat ripoff |
| 02:25 | <pharaun> | plus the price does not match either |
| 02:25 | <pharaun> | 0_o |
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| 02:31 | <gadams> | Where'd you order it from? |
| 02:32 | <chesty> | honestjoescomputers.com.au |
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| 02:34 | <pharaun> | lenovo |
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| 04:31 | <sirnet> | Hi. I don't suppose anyone has experience with a multi domain email system setup? I have been reading the "ISP style email" guide for Debian (http://tinyurl.com/yfbrp3p), but I'm not too sure about the database architecture for my situation. Is it possible to run Postfix and Dovecot with a MySQL database and manage all of the configuration (mail relays, usernames, passwords, aliases, account quotas, etc)? Any advice on getting started would be appreci |
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| 04:34 | <Peng> | sirnet: You got cut off at "getting started would be appreci" |
| 04:34 | <sirnet> | That was the end anyway! "appreciated" |
| 04:34 | <Peng> | :D |
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| 04:53 | <fugazzi> | hi, just new to linode and xen, have I to install the xen-server-tools on my virtual machine ? |
| 04:54 | <Peng> | No? Why? |
| 04:54 | <fugazzi> | thanks, no just I didn't understand what they are for |
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| 04:55 | <fugazzi> | I was thinking they were similar to virtualbox guest additions |
| 04:55 | <@Praefectus> | virtualbox != xen |
| 04:56 | <fugazzi> | so that they were useful to "attune" more the machine to the virtual hardware |
| 04:56 | <fugazzi> | yeah, paravirtualization, I have to giva a shoot at the documentations, anyway thank you for help, I will not install them |
| 04:57 | <AlexC_> | fugazzi: Your Linode is already good to go, nothing additional needs to be installed or tweaked like that |
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| 04:59 | <fugazzi> | ok, so I will only use my own kernel, discover that for the 3.1 you need to disable barriers otherwise you will get errors on ext 3 and fs mounted ro |
| 05:00 | <Peng> | ...Where'd you learn that? It's correct, but I'm surprised you found it out so quickly. |
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| 05:01 | <fugazzi> | Yesterday they open my account, I installed arch and put in pvp mode, then the message on the out of band console was talking about barries, I googled and I have my suspect confirmed, also it was the only change in ext3 in the 3.1 |
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| 05:03 | <Bowwwweee> | http://celebislegend.altervista.org/sito/ <-- visit this site! http://celebislegends.forumfree.it/ <-- and the forum |
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| 05:03 | <kyhwana> | ohoh invoice time |
| 05:03 | <AlexC_> | Not for me! |
| 05:04 | * | Praefectus generates an invoice for AlexC_ |
| 05:04 | <AlexC_> | Noooo =( |
| 05:04 | <@Praefectus> | TWO INVOICES FOR YOU! |
| 05:04 | * | AlexC_ offers cake as a payment |
| 05:05 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 05:05 | <@Praefectus> | mmmm cake |
| 05:05 | <@Praefectus> | NO INVOICES FOR YOU! |
| 05:05 | <AlexC_> | <3 |
| 05:06 | <kyhwana> | Where's perhelion (sp) |
| 05:07 | <@Praefectus> | shes suspended over a bed of cacti in the closet |
| 05:08 | <AlexC_> | Does she know, yet? |
| 05:08 | <Yaakov> | I have another pending referral. |
| 05:08 | <Yaakov> | They mysteriously appear... |
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| 05:08 | <AlexC_> | Yaakov: It sure is good when that happens |
| 05:09 | <Yaakov> | I am not complaining, though... the math is odd... |
| 05:10 | <Yaakov> | Wow, I have 2! |
| 05:10 | <Yaakov> | You have 11 total referrals: 8 completed ($160.00) and 2 pending |
| 05:10 | <Yaakov> | But I also have a phantom one... |
| 05:11 | <mdcollins_> | heh |
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| 05:25 | <fugazzi> | just wondering, is it possible to use other filesystems for root, like xfs for example ? |
| 05:27 | <hawk> | In terms of what the Linode provided kernels support? |
| 05:28 | <hawk> | (The FS related options in the manager only do ext2/ext3, I believe. Like resize, backup, ...) |
| 05:28 | <fugazzi> | well, linode or custom kernel, in therm of deplying disks |
| 05:29 | <fugazzi> | yes, I know, I was wondering if you boot with rescue and format manually, may be with more partitions, if it will work |
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| 05:34 | <AlexC_> | fugazzi: Yes you can just create a raw disk and do what you want with it |
| 05:35 | <amitz> | say, I'm not sure about the mechanism of git. can I set my git repository both remotely and locally, where the remote mirror my local? seamlessly? |
| 05:36 | <AlexC_> | amitz: Your local git repository is the entire Git repository; it's common to then have a remote location where you push your changes to |
| 05:36 | <fugazzi> | thanks |
| 05:37 | <AlexC_> | amitz: Say then someone else clones this remote repostiory and pushes to it, you can get their changes by either `git pull origin` or something like `git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master` |
| 05:38 | <amitz> | AlexC_: hmm, basically I have access to a subversion repository I have limited authority at (can't branch, etc). I want to do branching using git instead. But I want to keep a copy remotely, in case I crash my computer. |
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| 05:39 | <amitz> | So we're talking 3 repository, a subversion I have limited access to, a local git/orwhateverbestsolution , and a remote git/orwhateverbestsolution. last 2, I have full access at. |
| 05:40 | <amitz> | AlexC_: in anyway, yeah, I can just push to remote periodically, hmmm. But will I be able to replicate the concept of branching well, given my case? |
| 05:41 | <amitz> | or I should just rsync the whole damn thing instead, periodoically. |
| 05:41 | <hipsters_> | can somebody not colourblind help me out here - https://pinboard.in/popular/ is there a noticeable difference in colour between clicked on links and not clicked on links? |
| 05:41 | <amitz> | I suspect your motive. |
| 05:42 | <hipsters_> | there is no motive man, i have nothing to do with pinboard |
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| 05:42 | <AlexC_> | amitz: You can still use branches yes, it's your git repository (even the remote) ... but if you can't branch in SVN you wont be able to do this in SVN got example using git-svn |
| 05:44 | <amitz> | AlexC_: it's okay that I can't branch in my SVN. I just need to branch for my personal need. I assume that git-svn will still be able to pull svn and convert it to git, and let me push git to the svn (and convert it_ , right? |
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| 05:48 | <AlexC_> | amitz: Yes, I use git-svn here to checkout our SVN repositories - which means I am kept sane becasue I can work with Git CLI instead of SVN CLI, and then I simply 'git svn dcommit' my changes which commits them to the SVN repo |
| 05:49 | <AlexC_> | If I want to get changes from the SVN repo, `git svn rebase` |
| 05:49 | <AlexC_> | You can create as many branches as you want in your local Git repo, and merge them into the branch you're curently working with in SVN (I say "branch" loosely here as SVN has 100% no concept of branches) |
| 05:50 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:50 | <AlexC_> | Thank you for delivering that message, SpaceHobo :P |
| 05:52 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:52 | <linbot> | http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/06/03/us/jp-NUKE.html |
| 05:52 | <AlexC_> | =3 |
| 05:54 | <amitz> | AlexC_: noted, thanks! |
| 05:55 | <AlexC_> | amitz: You're welcome |
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| 05:55 | <amitz> | AlexC_: oh, althought I will probably use eclipse's git feature instead. So at the least I must guarantee that i can pick a single branch of git and commit it (all or some of it). |
| 05:56 | <amitz> | commit it to svn, which is supposed to be doable using git-svn |
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| 06:06 | <kyhwana> | Yay im 30 |
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| 06:07 | <AlexC_> | amitz: *shrugs* I only know Git via CLI and wouldn't recommend anything else so I can't answer that |
| 06:07 | <AlexC_> | But yes you can of course commit back to svn, `git svn dcommit` |
| 06:07 | <AlexC_> | What *I* would do, is merge the branch into the branch that is tracking the SVN branch, then commit that |
| 06:08 | <AlexC_> | kyhwana: Or, three decades old |
| 06:09 | <amitz> | AlexC_: of course, makes sense. |
| 06:09 | <amitz> | being 30 is overrated. |
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| 06:18 | <kyhwana> | yup |
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| 06:47 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 06:47 | <linbot> | http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/06/03/us/jp-NUKE.html |
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| 06:55 | <andy566> | hi can anyone tell me how to preview a website on my linode ubuntu server with apache - before pointing the www record in my dns |
| 06:56 | <AlexC_> | andy566: Edit your hosts files locally, e.g. /etc/hosts and point the domain name to your Linodes IP |
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| 07:01 | <andy566> | what i am trying to accomplish is that if i goto http://MYIPADDRESS/MyDomainName.com then it will show me exactly the same as if i had gone to http://MyDomainName.com |
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| 07:02 | <andy566> | can you giev me an example of how to update my hosts file to accomplsih this |
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| 07:03 | <andy566> | ah - i found fiorum post http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=6951&highlight=preview+website |
| 07:04 | <Guest18926> | has anyone have problems with receiving the unverified ip email? billing email ok, but not getting unverified ip email :( |
| 07:05 | <@Praefectus> | Guest18926: do you have a gmail address on file? |
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| 07:06 | <Guest18926> | Praefectus: yes, it's gmail |
| 07:07 | <@Praefectus> | thats probly why, i tested with a bunch of different providers and gmail is always lagging on delivery |
| 07:08 | <Guest18926> | Praefectus: ok, thanks... i'll wait a few hours and check back... wierd cause I receive emails form my linode hosted app within about 2-5 seconds of sending |
| 07:09 | <Guest18926> | Praefectus: just got the email (after 15min)! :D |
| 07:09 | <@Praefectus> | ah ok |
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| 07:15 | <Guest18926> | Praefectus: thanks for all your help! |
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| 08:23 | <andy566> | newbie - i am having trouble ftp-ing to my new ubuntu server |
| 08:23 | <AlexC_> | andy566: Your problem is that you're using FTP ;) |
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| 08:24 | <AlexC_> | !ftp |
| 08:24 | <linbot> | Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp |
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| 08:33 | <andy566> | alexC can you explain please |
| 08:34 | <@akerl> | andy566: FTP is insecure, both because it uses plaintext and because there are often vulnerabilities in the software that you use for it |
| 08:34 | <@akerl> | SFTP is secure, it's there by default on your Linode, and is generally moar better |
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| 08:38 | <andy566> | linode sets up sftp - i thought |
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| 08:39 | <@heckman> | andy566: yes it does: Secure File Transfer Program (Also sometimes called SSH File Transfer Program). |
| 08:39 | <@heckman> | Not to be confused with FTPS |
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| 08:43 | <MTecknology> | akerl: at work, we have software that requires ftp be available on ~200 servers :( |
| 08:44 | <@akerl> | :( |
| 08:45 | <Daevien> | MTecknology: i didn't realize mcdonald's told their fry cooks about their computer systems |
| 08:47 | <MTecknology> | Daevien: and that's why you don't have to work on them; those of us that are competente enough to get real jobs usually end up working on computers; in my case that's managing ~400 servers |
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| 08:48 | <Daevien> | considering the level of questions you ask and bad advice you give, i see now why they run ftp :) |
| 08:48 | <@Praefectus> | you have an extra E in there |
| 08:49 | <MTecknology> | Praefectus: I do indeed have an exra e. You want it? :) |
| 08:49 | <@irgeek> | You know, spelling "competent" incorrectly doesn't make you sound competent. :p |
| 08:49 | <@Praefectus> | nothxkbai |
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| 09:30 | <amitz> | for a few seconds, I thought competent is spelled as compotent, and I was preparing for a joke about it... :-p |
| 09:31 | <MTecknology> | amitz: alas, 'tis not |
| 09:32 | <MTecknology> | amitz: share anyway, you shall? |
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| 09:33 | <amitz> | complementing impotent, or something like that. ain't funny. |
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| 09:34 | <MTecknology> | HAHAHA LOLZ OMG FUNNY |
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| 09:38 | <MTecknology> | amitz: actually... i don't get it... but I'm sure it was hilarious if impotent was indeed spelt that way :) |
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| 09:58 | <tolle> | Well this feels fairly silly. GNOME 3 uses the super key for showing the activities view. But super_r doesn |
| 09:58 | <tolle> | t work for that. |
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| 10:31 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Switched Wordpress Site To Linode, RSS Errors in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8118>; |
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| 11:03 | <Karrde> | /dev/sdb3 has gone 1931 days without being checked, check forced. |
| 11:05 | <dwfreed> | Karrde: heh, not rebooted in a while, eh? |
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| 11:10 | <sirona> | hi folks |
| 11:10 | <sirona> | is someone willing to have a conversation with me about installing wordpress on a linode server? |
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| 11:11 | <dwfreed> | !ask |
| 11:11 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 11:11 | <dwfreed> | There might also be a doc in the Library |
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| 11:12 | <@irgeek> | !library wordpress |
| 11:13 | <linbot> | irgeek: 1. Manage Web Content with WordPress - http://library.linode.com/web-applications/cms-guides/wordpress | 2. Standalone MySQL Server - http://library.linode.com/databases/mysql/standalone-mysql-server | 3. Rewrite URLs with mod_rewrite and Apache - http://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache/configuration/rewriting-urls |
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| 11:15 | <sirona> | thanks! |
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| 11:19 | <sirona> | is it best to access linode through ftp software? |
| 11:19 | <sirona> | and if i'm not the admin, can i use my login to make site changes, or do i need to use the admin login? |
| 11:20 | <@irgeek> | FTP is frowned upon these days. The SSH server that's already has an SFTP server built-in you can use. |
| 11:20 | <@irgeek> | What are you not "the admin" of? |
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| 11:22 | <sirona> | of the linode server |
| 11:23 | <sirona> | sorry if these seem like dumb questions, i haven't seriously done web design in 5+ years |
| 11:23 | <@irgeek> | That's going to depend on how the Linode is configured. It is possible to configure Wordpress to allow users to make changes. |
| 11:23 | <@irgeek> | It's not the default though, AFAIK. |
| 11:24 | <sirona> | ok |
| 11:24 | <sirona> | do i use some kind of software to access the ssh server? |
| 11:24 | <sirona> | or is it web-based? |
| 11:24 | <@irgeek> | There are a plethora of SFTP clients out there. |
| 11:24 | <@irgeek> | And SSH clients. |
| 11:25 | <@irgeek> | What OS are you using? |
| 11:25 | <sirona> | osx 10.5.8 |
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| 11:26 | <@irgeek> | In that case you can use ssh, sftp, scp, rsync, etc from Terminal. |
| 11:26 | <@irgeek> | There are also some GUI front-ends that may be easier to navigate. |
| 11:26 | <@irgeek> | !library cyberduck |
| 11:26 | <linbot> | irgeek: 1. Transfer Files with Cyberduck on Mac OS X - http://library.linode.com/networking/file-transfer/transfer-files-cyberduck | 2. Linode Beginner's Guide - http://library.linode.com/beginners-guide | 3. Linux System Administration Basics - http://library.linode.com/using-linux/administration-basics |
| 11:27 | <sirona> | ah, ok, thank you. i do have cyberduck |
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| 11:28 | <@irgeek> | Also, many people don't like the Terminal that shipped with 10.5 - iTerm or iTerm2 make a good replacement. |
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| 11:29 | <sirona> | thanks! |
| 11:29 | <sirona> | should i ssh into linode.com or into the site that we've got set up on linode? |
| 11:29 | <@akerl> | sirona: If you can ssh into linode.com, let me know :) |
| 11:29 | <sirona> | hahaha |
| 11:30 | <sirona> | ok, so clearly not that ;) |
| 11:30 | <@akerl> | sirona: The info you want can be found in the "Remote Access" tab of the Linode Manager |
| 11:31 | <@irgeek> | It's right at the top - SSH Access |
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| 11:36 | <sirona> | thanks! |
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| 11:38 | <sirona> | hmm |
| 11:38 | <sirona> | i wonder if i can't see that tab because i'm not the admin |
| 11:38 | <@irgeek> | What tabs do you see? |
| 11:38 | <sirona> | Linodes NodeBalancers DNS Manager Account Support Documentation Community |
| 11:39 | <@irgeek> | Click on a Linode. |
| 11:40 | <@irgeek> | Remote Access is a sub-tab when you're viewing a Linode. |
| 11:40 | <sirona> | ok |
| 11:42 | <swaj> | anyone use NSD and Monit? I'm trying to get it to connect to localhost:53, type udp, protocol dns, and it's failing even though the server is up and responding. |
| 11:42 | <swaj> | (doing PID check and connectivity check) |
| 11:43 | <sirona> | does it make sense that i wouldn't be able to login to ssh through the username and password i use to login to linode manager? |
| 11:43 | <@irgeek> | You can't really "connect" to a UDP port - it's a connectionless protocol. |
| 11:43 | <boba> | Yes, sirona |
| 11:43 | <@irgeek> | You would need to send a query to it and check for a response. |
| 11:44 | <hawk> | swaj: Has it bound to whatever localhost resolves to? |
| 11:44 | <swaj> | yeah |
| 11:44 | <swaj> | actually I'm sending it to my public IP, which it has bound to, via netstat |
| 11:44 | <sirona> | irgeek: i'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 11:44 | <sirona> | what would i be sending a query to and how? |
| 11:44 | <@irgeek> | sirona: That was to swaj |
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| 11:45 | <swaj> | hawk: http://pastebin.me/d791e4b7e6edf939287c771193033822 |
| 11:45 | <swaj> | that's my config for it |
| 11:45 | <swaj> | and netstat shows it listening on 53 on that IP |
| 11:46 | <swaj> | and I can dig @ it |
| 11:46 | <sirona> | k |
| 11:47 | <hawk> | swaj: The config doesn't specify what query to send. Could the issue be that it sends some strange query that fails? |
| 11:47 | <@irgeek> | swaj: I'd figure out what monit is sending to the port. |
| 11:48 | <swaj> | I'm not sure how to specify the query... my guess is that monit is sending a query for a domain that nsd doesn't respond for (since it's authoritative only) |
| 11:48 | <@irgeek> | It may be using some bind-only query that nsd doesn't support. |
| 11:48 | <@irgeek> | You could try tcpdumping the port to see what it's sending. |
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| 11:48 | <swaj> | would it show in tcpdump even for UDP? |
| 11:48 | <dwfreed> | yeah |
| 11:48 | <@irgeek> | Yes. |
| 11:48 | <hawk> | tcpdump has a weird name |
| 11:49 | <dwfreed> | tcpdump is awesome like that |
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| 11:53 | <swaj> | I'm just seeing generic UDP stuff -- not really familiar with TCP dump, can it show the raw packets? |
| 11:55 | <@irgeek> | tcpdump -ni eth0 -s0 -vvv udp and port 53 |
| 11:55 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Nginx config for wp supercache in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8131>; |
| 11:55 | <@irgeek> | That should show you what's going in. |
| 11:56 | <@irgeek> | Finding the specific query that monit is sending could be a challenge. |
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| 12:00 | <sirona> | it looks like i need root login to access through ssh? |
| 12:01 | <@irgeek> | Either root or another user that's been created by someone with root access. |
| 12:01 | <linbot> | New news from forums: [Apache] Combining Static & Dynamic VirtualHosts. in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8132>; |
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| 12:03 | <sirona> | but is this separate from a user that is created for linode manager? |
| 12:04 | <sirona> | in other words, my linode manager login, created by the admin, isn't necessarily going to work for me to login via ssh? |
| 12:04 | <@akerl> | sirona: Your Linode Manager creds are completely different from your Linode's SSH creds |
| 12:04 | <sirona> | ok, thanks |
| 12:04 | <@akerl> | If you just deployed, you want root, and the password you set when you deployed |
| 12:05 | <sirona> | is the root pwd going to be the same as the admin's pwd? |
| 12:05 | <@akerl> | The Linode Manager password? |
| 12:05 | <sirona> | yes |
| 12:05 | <sirona> | thanks for your help, akerl and irgeek |
| 12:05 | <@akerl> | Nope |
| 12:05 | <sirona> | how doe the root pwd get created? |
| 12:05 | <sirona> | *does |
| 12:05 | <@akerl> | You set it when you deploy your disk images |
| 12:06 | <sirona> | ah, so how and where do i do that? |
| 12:06 | <@akerl> | The "Deploy" button in the Linode Manager |
| 12:06 | <sirona> | phew |
| 12:06 | <sirona> | ok |
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| 12:07 | <sirona> | where in linode manager is "deploy"? apologies for being completely ignorant, i have many questions. |
| 12:08 | <sirona> | deploy a linux distribution? |
| 12:08 | <@akerl> | Ya |
| 12:10 | <sirona> | it looks like a disk was already created from distribution and that a root password was set. would that password have been sent to the admin's primary email? |
| 12:11 | <@irgeek> | No. |
| 12:11 | <@irgeek> | If someone else already set this Linode up, they set the root password when they deployed. |
| 12:11 | <swaj> | all I'm seeing is traffic back and forth between my node and linode's resolvers |
| 12:12 | <swaj> | I don't think monit is even trying to connect |
| 12:12 | <swaj> | (yes I turned the monitor back on) |
| 12:12 | <@irgeek> | Is there a plugin or something like that you need to enable before it will support DNS? |
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| 12:13 | <swaj> | I just installed the distro package for debian |
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| 12:14 | <swaj> | linode was even able to do the zone xfer's from my NSD |
| 12:14 | <sirona> | ok, so is there any way to find that root pwd if it's unknown? |
| 12:15 | <swaj> | sirona: nope. You'll just have to reset it |
| 12:15 | <@irgeek> | sirona: No, but it can be reset. |
| 12:15 | <sirona> | ok |
| 12:15 | <sirona> | thank you! |
| 12:16 | <swaj> | guess I'll just monitor the process |
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| 12:16 | <swaj> | it's only a hidden master anyway |
| 12:16 | <swaj> | not using it to serve to the public |
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| 12:17 | <@irgeek> | If it goes away, the slaves will continue to serve the zone until it expires. |
| 12:17 | <swaj> | yeah |
| 12:17 | <@irgeek> | You can set the expire time really high if you want extra safety. |
| 12:17 | <swaj> | in all liklihood, if the daemon is running, NSD is doing it's job. I just like to connect to things for extra insurance |
| 12:17 | <swaj> | its* |
| 12:18 | <@irgeek> | Did you try monitoring it on TCP port 53? |
| 12:18 | <@irgeek> | If that's working, UDP should be too |
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| 12:20 | <swaj> | I tried TCP first |
| 12:20 | <swaj> | it failed too |
| 12:20 | <swaj> | I think monit's DNS protocol might be bugged in this version, or something |
| 12:21 | <@irgeek> | No iptables rules firewalling off port 53? |
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| 12:22 | <dwfreed> | swaj: or nsd only accepting stuff from linode on the public address? |
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| 12:23 | <dwfreed> | nevermind, I can dig it from here |
| 12:24 | <linbot> | cay you dig it!? |
| 12:25 | * | linbot goes to sulk in the corner due to bad typing |
| 12:25 | <swaj> | iptables is disabled |
| 12:25 | <swaj> | I can change it to just a simple TCP connect to port 53 |
| 12:25 | <swaj> | that'd probably work |
| 12:27 | <swaj> | looks like it's issuing an NS root request? |
| 12:27 | <swaj> | which if it's refused, counts as a failure pre 5.2 (I'm running 5.1.1 since that's what debian provides) |
| 12:27 | <swaj> | 5.2+ a refusal counts as a success, because the DNS server had to be alive to respond with a refusal :) |
| 12:27 | <@irgeek> | An authoritative-only server should refuse that. |
| 12:28 | <dwfreed> | swaj: switching it to a simple tcp connect will work |
| 12:28 | <swaj> | yeah I did |
| 12:28 | <swaj> | that works fine |
| 12:28 | <@irgeek> | Well that explains that then. |
| 12:28 | <swaj> | bind is happy to answer an NS root, but NSD refuses it |
| 12:29 | <@irgeek> | Authoritative-only bind refuses it too. |
| 12:29 | <dwfreed> | bind will only answer if it's doing caching |
| 12:29 | <@irgeek> | dig @ns1.linode.com NS . |
| 12:29 | <swaj> | yeah |
| 12:29 | <swaj> | so I could manually compile the latest monit |
| 12:29 | <swaj> | and it would work |
| 12:30 | <swaj> | or I can just live with a simple TCP connect test :P |
| 12:30 | <dwfreed> | I'd say live with the TCP connect test :P |
| 12:30 | <@heckman> | I'd say compile all of the things! |
| 12:31 | <swaj> | yeah I'd rather just use deb's package, if the process is living and responding on port 53, it's almost suredly alive and fine :P |
| 12:33 | <swaj> | now I get to figure out DNSSEC :P |
| 12:34 | <swaj> | i.e.: the whole reason for this NSD hidden master setup :P |
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| 12:34 | <ChemicalKicks> | MEOW |
| 12:35 | <ChemicalKicks> | So..... vhost files and nginx |
| 12:35 | <ChemicalKicks> | Do I have to create a vhost for every domain/subdomain I want to use |
| 12:35 | <@akerl> | You need to tell nginx how to handle what you want it to handle. |
| 12:35 | <ChemicalKicks> | I must be messing something up still. |
| 12:35 | <@akerl> | You can do that with one server block or 100, however you'd like |
| 12:36 | <dwfreed> | swaj: with BIND, DNSSEC is easy :P |
| 12:36 | <@irgeek> | Sign your stuff. Publish your DS records upstream. Done! |
| 12:36 | <ChemicalKicks> | Still haven't got "the-sps.net" to work |
| 12:36 | <@irgeek> | Or something like that. ;) |
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| 12:37 | <dwfreed> | irgeek: even better: auto-dnssec: maintain; on the zone, and point it to the dir where the key is, and BIND will do all the work for you :) |
| 12:39 | <ChemicalKicks> | I created a dns record for "the-sps.net." pointing to the server IP and in my vhost this is what I've got. http://p.linode.com/6034 but it just refuses to work for the-sps.net |
| 12:39 | <ChemicalKicks> | www. works fine |
| 12:39 | <ChemicalKicks> | Nearly home |
| 12:41 | <@akerl> | ChemicalKicks: Check out the nginx docs for server_name? |
| 12:41 | <@akerl> | hint: you don't need two of them |
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| 12:42 | <ChemicalKicks> | Hmmmmm |
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| 12:45 | <pkiller> | i had a virtual host running on something.something.com and its everything configured in apache... and it worked a month ago... now i trie to access it and its not found, maybe i changed something in the Linode DNS manager ... just i cannot find what... any ideas? |
| 12:46 | <ChemicalKicks> | aker this I've removed the reference to the-sps.net or should I have localhost in for servername instead? http://p.linode.com/6035 |
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| 12:49 | <juliakm> | okay, this is somewhat dumb. I've been handed access to a linode account and I can't seem to access it via shell or Lish. Have reset Lish password multiple times but always get access denied. |
| 12:50 | <dwfreed> | juliakm: the root password for the linode is probably different than the password they gave you for the manager |
| 12:50 | <Daevien> | lish password = getting into lish. password to get into the actual machine can be and really should be (for security) different. you can shutdown the node and change your root password |
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| 12:51 | <juliakm> | Daevien: aha! so the only way to change the root password is when the node is shutdown? |
| 12:51 | <dwfreed> | juliakm: yep |
| 12:51 | * | juliakm hits self on head |
| 12:51 | <juliakm> | thanks! |
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| 13:07 | <vvc> | Hi. Is it possible to use the same user ID to access two different accounts? |
| 13:07 | <virhilo> | vvc: why not few linodes on one account?:P |
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| 13:07 | <vvc> | Different companies |
| 13:07 | <vvc> | same admin |
| 13:08 | <virhilo> | ah |
| 13:09 | <rnowak> | virhilo: it is not |
| 13:09 | <virhilo> | rnowak: ? |
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| 13:09 | <virhilo> | rnowak: it wasn't to vvc ?:) |
| 13:09 | <rnowak> | virhilo: it was |
| 13:09 | <rnowak> | vvc: it is not ;p |
| 13:10 | <virhilo> | :P |
| 13:10 | <vvc> | hmm, well, too bad, I don't think it's such a rare case |
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| 13:13 | <seanh-ansca> | vvc: i have the same problem |
| 13:14 | <seanh-ansca> | there's a big thread in the feature request forum about the issue |
| 13:14 | <seanh-ansca> | i think i have 3 logins now.. |
| 13:17 | <vvc> | I am switchng from slicehost - don't like rackspace, I will end up with more then that |
| 13:17 | <vvc> | slicehost had this feature |
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| 13:19 | <dwfreed> | vvc: however, you can give one account access to the other account's linodes |
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| 13:23 | <Daevien> | if you plan on having a numebr of linodes, just look into the api & lish. those two things should do most everything you'd need |
| 13:24 | -!- | Narasimha [~0e60c52b@chat.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 13:24 | <Narasimha> | Hi |
| 13:25 | <Narasimha> | Hi |
| 13:25 | <Daevien> | hi Narasimha |
| 13:25 | <Narasimha> | I am trying to signup |
| 13:25 | <Narasimha> | looks like Linode is not accepting debit cards |
| 13:26 | <Narasimha> | is there any alternative? |
| 13:26 | <Narasimha> | otherthan credit cards |
| 13:27 | <Narasimha> | Hi Daevien |
| 13:28 | <dwfreed> | Narasimha: most debit cards are also credit cards; does it have a visa, mastercard, discover, or american express logo on it? |
| 13:28 | <Narasimha> | mine is a debit card VISA type |
| 13:29 | <Narasimha> | it is giving error |
| 13:29 | <dwfreed> | Narasimha: does your debit card number 16 digits? |
| 13:30 | <Narasimha> | yes |
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| 13:32 | <dwfreed> | Narasimha: double check that you're entering the correct zip code and CVV; the zip code you need to enter is the zip code you gave to your bank or credit union when you signed up for your account there; the CVV is three digits on the back of the card which are preceded by the last four digits of the card number |
| 13:32 | <Narasimha> | Looks like I need to check with my bank |
| 13:32 | <Narasimha> | yeah..I entered all correct info |
| 13:33 | <Narasimha> | Thanks a lot dwfreed |
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| 13:49 | <Daevien> | dwfreed: sidenote btw, not all debit are credit cards. it's that way in teh US but in canada onlysome are and it's a recent hting (ie: last year or so) |
| 13:49 | <Daevien> | and i think europe is a mix of yes & no |
| 13:50 | <dwfreed> | Daevien: which is why I asked if it had a logo on it |
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| 13:58 | <Narasimha> | Dear Team, |
| 13:58 | <Narasimha> | Just now I signedup and took 512 package and got node IP |
| 13:58 | <Narasimha> | I am trying to login to host from Putty |
| 13:58 | <vraa> | sweet i'm part of a team now |
| 13:59 | <Narasimha> | Getting error |
| 13:59 | <boba> | What error? |
| 13:59 | <Narasimha> | getting connecting timeout |
| 13:59 | <boba> | Did you boot the Linode? |
| 14:00 | <Narasimha> | I think it did that automatically |
| 14:00 | <boba> | Nope, it doesn't |
| 14:00 | <boba> | You're supposed to deploy a distro and then boot, IIRC |
| 14:00 | <Narasimha> | Success Create Filesystem - 256MB Swap Image Entered: 23 minutes 56 seconds ago - Took: 2 seconds Success Disk Create From Distribution - Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Entered: 23 minutes 56 seconds ago - Took: 16 seconds Setting password for root... done Success System Shutdown Entered: 23 minutes 56 seconds ago - Took: 1 second Success Linode Migration Cleanup Entered: 24 minutes 13 seconds ago - Took: 1 second |
| 14:00 | <Narasimha> | this is the status |
| 14:01 | <Narasimha> | all are success |
| 14:01 | <@akerl> | Looks like not booted. |
| 14:01 | <Narasimha> | can I share the IP address here? |
| 14:01 | <boba> | Narasimha: So hit Boot. |
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| 14:01 | <Narasimha> | yeah.... |
| 14:01 | <@akerl> | IPs aren't private, really |
| 14:01 | <Narasimha> | sorry.... |
| 14:01 | <Narasimha> | booting now |
| 14:01 | <Narasimha> | I am sorry for confusion |
| 14:03 | <EriksLV> | hi |
| 14:03 | <EriksLV> | grep -F "17/Oct/2011" oldbigapachelogfile.log > Oct17.log |
| 14:03 | <Narasimha> | able to access now |
| 14:04 | <EriksLV> | am I doing right? |
| 14:04 | <Narasimha> | Thanks a lot for great service |
| 14:04 | <EriksLV> | to find all rows from October 17 |
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| 14:05 | <boba> | Narasimha: Enjoy :) |
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| 14:08 | <hypnoseal> | Hey everyone. I'm wondering if anyone would be able to help me out with one of the StackScripts I used. I deployed a LAMP & Firewall stackscript, configured the apache sites-available according to the linode lamp guide. After all of that I still cannot connect to it via http. Any ideas of what I should check to make sure everything is configured properly? |
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| 14:18 | <hypnoseal> | Nevermind, I set everything up correctly. I did a system reboot and all seems to work fine now |
| 14:18 | <escoz> | hey guys! I have a question.. what location do you guys suggest is the best to run sites from for Brazil?? |
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| 14:18 | <escoz> | I've been using dallas, but I'm just creating a new linode ,and don't know if other locations would be any faster |
| 14:18 | <Yaakov> | EriksLV: I prefer to use |tee <file name> instead of the > redirect so I can see what is happening. |
| 14:19 | <Yaakov> | escoz: You can test but Dallas seems most logical... |
| 14:19 | <Yaakov> | !speedtest |
| 14:19 | <linbot> | http://www.linode.com/speedtest |
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| 14:20 | <retro|blah> | Atlanta might be OK |
| 14:22 | <escoz> | thanks Yaakov, i'll try |
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| 14:27 | <EriksLV> | thanks Yaakov |
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| 14:39 | <ChemicalKicks> | Right I'm back again, I just FAIL |
| 14:39 | <nviror> | After upgrading mysql, I'm not able to start it again. screenshot-http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14319084/Untitled.png |
| 14:40 | <ChemicalKicks> | Try to reconfigure mysql sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql |
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| 14:42 | <ChemicalKicks> | Can someone please help me, I'm still stuck with getting my domain "the-sps.net" to work |
| 14:43 | <ChemicalKicks> | Basically the problem is, it doesn't work when you type it into the browser |
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| 14:45 | <EriksLV> | ChemicalKicks: there is no A dns record for the-sps.net |
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| 14:45 | <EriksLV> | ChemicalKicks: only for www.the-sps.net |
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| 14:46 | <ChemicalKicks> | EriksLV - huh? |
| 14:46 | <ChemicalKicks> | I can get www.the-sps.net to work |
| 14:46 | <ChemicalKicks> | I just cant get http://the-sps.net to work |
| 14:47 | <ChemicalKicks> | Also once I know the-sps.net is working I would like to redirect it to www. |
| 14:47 | <Daevien> | right, he's saying there is no record for the-sps.net, so it can't conenct to anything |
| 14:47 | <ChemicalKicks> | EriksLV - I've got a A record for the-sps.net |
| 14:47 | <nviror> | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed |
| 14:48 | <Daevien> | ChemicalKicks: if you jsut recently put that in, it takes 15 mins or so for the ns to reload and get the info then however time your TTL (time to live) is set to before things will delete their old info and get new info frm teh ns for your domain |
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| 14:49 | <EriksLV> | ChemicalKicks: ns is set for www.the-sps.net., not for the-sps.net. as it should be |
| 14:49 | <Daevien> | i don't get any record for the-sps.net from ns1.linode.com but do for www.the-sps.net |
| 14:49 | <Daevien> | so either you just made the change.. o ryou dont have the record you think you do |
| 14:50 | <ChemicalKicks> | Okay so maybe this is where I've been doing things wrong then. |
| 14:51 | <@irgeek> | ChemicalKicks: I just PMed you. |
| 14:52 | <ChemicalKicks> | Where? |
| 14:52 | <Daevien> | if you tell heckman to go to your house (why i don't know, i'd want him far away from my house) but don't tell him where you live, it's hard for him to visit you |
| 14:52 | <nviror> | Please help me brong up my mysql server, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed |
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| 14:53 | <nviror> | I |
| 14:53 | <Daevien> | nviror: did you try doing what chemical told you? |
| 14:53 | <nviror> | Daevien, yup here's the output /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed |
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| 14:54 | <@irgeek> | ChemicalKicks: Are you connected with the CGI::IRC client or the Java one? |
| 14:54 | <ChemicalKicks> | sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql |
| 14:54 | <nviror> | ChemicalKicks, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql is not installed |
| 14:54 | <ChemicalKicks> | irgeek - CGI |
| 14:54 | <Daevien> | nviror: you are using dotdeb.org repos prob, right? go look on their page... there were some issues with upgrading to 5.5 |
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| 14:55 | <nviror> | Daevien, yes. |
| 14:55 | <@irgeek> | ChemicalKicks: Look for my nick at the top of the window and click it. |
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| 14:55 | <Daevien> | nviror: you need to read stuff on their site, some changes to the config file an dsomethign else i think from memory, but the info was there |
| 14:56 | <nviror> | Daevien, thanks, let me check that page. |
| 14:56 | <ChemicalKicks> | irgeek - Found your PM |
| 14:56 | <Daevien> | nviror: http://www.dotdeb.org/2011/11/01/mysql-5-5-is-finally-here/ |
| 14:56 | <ChemicalKicks> | Can we chat there please? |
| 14:56 | <@irgeek> | I'm there. |
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| 15:00 | <maushu> | Anyone knows if I'm supposed to send "Access-Control-Allow-*" http headers on every request or just on the first one (pre-flight)? |
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| 15:08 | <hypnoseal> | Ok, so I am having issues with apache that I can't seem to figure out. Immediately after rebooting the linode I am able to access the html files located on it. However, after around 10-15 minutes it becomes unresponsive for me and downforeveryoneorjustme.org |
| 15:08 | <hypnoseal> | Any ideas? |
| 15:08 | <hypnoseal> | ssh still works, so that is why I am guessing it is with apache |
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| 15:14 | <nviror> | shortcut to reach end of page in nano? |
| 15:15 | <Kos> | ctrl+g |
| 15:15 | <Kos> | m-/ |
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| 15:17 | <nviror> | Ctrl + w + v |
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| 15:20 | <seanh-ansca> | ^X; vim $_ + |
| 15:20 | <seanh-ansca> | :D |
| 15:21 | <rnowak> | We're sorry, Thunderbird had a problem and crashed. |
| 15:21 | * | rnowak all the things |
| 15:21 | <seanh-ansca> | o/ |
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| 15:36 | <nviror> | skip-innodb in my.cnf is not allowing mysql 5.5 to start |
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| 15:37 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 15:37 | <pbryan> | Mmm, cake. |
| 15:38 | <pbryan> | Hey, Linux Mint is now on my radar. Is it on anyone else's (esp. at Linode as a deployable distro)? |
| 15:39 | <rnowak> | you have debian and ubuntu, what would you need mint for on a server? |
| 15:39 | <nviror> | got the solution http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1052143 |
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| 15:41 | <pbryan> | Thinking Mint's regular release cycles on top of Debian is slightly more attractive than Debian's rolling testing/unstable... |
| 15:41 | <dzho> | pbryan: Mint is less a distro than a distro add-on |
| 15:41 | <dzho> | a shim, as it were |
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| 15:45 | <seanh-ansca> | pbryan: isn't that what ubuntu LTS is for? |
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| 15:48 | * | akerl advocates removing all distros other than Arch |
| 15:48 | <dzho> | pbryan: I do not use Mint, but have heard a bit about it from fans and such, and as I'm given to understand, it pulls directly from the underlying Debian/Ubuntu repositories, so their release cycles, such as they are, by necessity determine Mints |
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| 15:57 | * | dwfreed shoots akerl in the head and installs Gentoo or Debian on all his linodes (depending on its purpose, of course) |
| 15:58 | <ChemicalKicks> | right so apparently I've just been told my server is wide open and could be hacked |
| 15:59 | <dwfreed> | ChemicalKicks: most linodes technically are; however, most people can't get into any computer without knowing the passowrd |
| 16:00 | <EugeneKay> | Bypass the firewalls 2048bit encryption using a genetic veebee algorithm running on my phone! |
| 16:01 | <seanh-ansca> | ChemicalKicks: most things could be hacked unless they're unplugged |
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| 16:01 | <seanh-ansca> | i recommend you just turn the node off |
| 16:02 | <seanh-ansca> | it's the only way to be sure |
| 16:02 | <kyhwana> | ChemicalKicks: hmm, whats the IP? |
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| 16:03 | <eka> | hi all... is there any cap for private net traffic btwn 2 or more linodes? |
| 16:03 | <EugeneKay> | No. Private net & IPv6 traffic in-datacenter is unmetered. |
| 16:04 | <@heckman> | There's a cap of 50mbps... |
| 16:04 | <seanh-ansca> | there is a bandwidth rate cap on the interface though |
| 16:04 | <@heckman> | Doesn't count towards your transfer tho |
| 16:04 | <@irgeek> | And the cap is only outbound. |
| 16:04 | <EugeneKay> | IIRC you can file a ticket and get it raised to the port-speed |
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| 16:05 | <eka> | cause it's happening that my linode doesn't respond to net anymore and in the net traffic I see adro to 0 ... CPU seems normal |
| 16:05 | <eka> | happened more than once |
| 16:05 | <@heckman> | And it can be lifted on request. (Forgot to mention that) |
| 16:06 | <@irgeek> | There's nothing on our end that would make your Linode completely unresponsive. |
| 16:06 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Please debug and optimize the 'unverified ip address' email in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8128>; |
| 16:07 | <swaj> | good lord the "ldns-keygen" for generating keys to use for DNSSEC is insanely slow |
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| 16:07 | <rnowak> | not enough random bitz eh swaj? |
| 16:07 | <swaj> | clearly not |
| 16:08 | <swaj> | takes like 3-4 minutes to generate a ZSK and KSK |
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| 16:08 | <@caker> | ln -sf /dev/urandom /dev/random |
| 16:08 | * | caker dispenses tinfoil hats |
| 16:08 | * | rnowak puts on a leaded tinfoil hat |
| 16:08 | <swaj> | FreeBSD does that |
| 16:08 | <kyhwana> | eka: what does LISH say? |
| 16:08 | <@akerl> | du will fix that |
| 16:08 | <@irgeek> | eka: If you open a ticket we can take a closer look. |
| 16:08 | <seanh-ansca> | your entropy tank is running low |
| 16:09 | <eka> | irgeek: yes doing that thanks |
| 16:09 | <rnowak> | we have a cute little geiger counter device at work hooked up to the server that can provide random numbers on request <3 |
| 16:09 | <rnowak> | it is dead slow to fill the bucket though ;< |
| 16:09 | <eka> | kyhwana: lish? |
| 16:09 | <@mikegrb> | ruflz |
| 16:09 | <swaj> | holy shite caker, that turned a 5 minute script into like 3 seconds, rofl. |
| 16:10 | <eka> | ah |
| 16:10 | <kyhwana> | !lish |
| 16:10 | <linbot> | LISH allows you to perform certain actions without having to log in to the Linode Manager. LISH's primary function is to allow you to access your Linode's console, even if networking is disabled. http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/using-lish-the-linode-shell |
| 16:10 | <eka> | ouch... yes seems to be stack trace |
| 16:10 | <seanh-ansca> | rnowak: i think random.org does something like that to generate random data. IIRC he's listening to atmospheric radio noise to generate stuff |
| 16:10 | <rnowak> | seanh-ansca: yep |
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| 16:11 | <rnowak> | there was another service like that provided by some serbian university |
| 16:11 | <eka> | kyhwana: irgeek: http://pastebin.com/btfWt94N |
| 16:12 | <@irgeek> | That would explain it. |
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| 16:12 | <eka> | irgeek: care to explain? |
| 16:13 | <dwfreed> | rnowak: random.org |
| 16:13 | <rnowak> | dwfreed: yes? |
| 16:13 | <@irgeek> | eka: That's the kernel going pear-shaped. The only fix is a reboot. |
| 16:13 | <dwfreed> | rnowak: faster than a geiger counter |
| 16:14 | <Coronel> | Hi I am Coronel Erasmo Sanchez with the Secretariat of Public Security for the Municipality of Tarímbaro, Michoacan, and I come to investigate threats made by David Easton, Tim Heckman, and Richard Roby against a religious community here. |
| 16:14 | <eka> | irgeek: pear shaped? it's happening every day :( |
| 16:14 | <Coronel> | Is anybody aware of any threats made against anybody in this channel by your users? |
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| 16:14 | <eka> | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pear+shaped |
| 16:14 | <seanh-ansca> | Coronel: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2011-November/006642.html |
| 16:16 | <Coronel> | To me doesn't make sense the link in relation to investigation? |
| 16:16 | <Coronel> | Pertains it to affair? |
| 16:17 | <BP{k}> | municapility ... sounds like the dear Coronel is in charge of the poo basins at the local camping site :) |
| 16:17 | <@caker> | http://pastebin.com/M53vPsrE |
| 16:18 | <Coronel> | KRiTiKiLL is the name of the quill pen of one of our suspects |
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| 16:19 | <Yaakov> | caker: SSPM is also part of "chimpout". We have trouble with him on EFNet. |
| 16:19 | <Coronel> | no make remarks intolerant such people? |
| 16:19 | <seanh-ansca> | sounds like a ridiculous witch hunt if you ask me |
| 16:19 | <Yaakov> | "Coronel"'s address is a fear.org domain. |
| 16:20 | <Yaakov> | He is abusing an HE tunnel. |
| 16:20 | <Yaakov> | I have already reported the abuse, and will followup. |
| 16:20 | <Yaakov> | caker: My suggestion is a ban, though the entire tunnel should be glined from OFTC. |
| 16:22 | <Coronel> | our tunnel is in utilization for the municipality of tarímbaro, michoacan |
| 16:22 | <Coronel> | under direction of the department of informatica |
| 16:22 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: Shut the hell up you imbecile. |
| 16:22 | <@irgeek> | eka: I don't have a way to know if that's a bug in the kernel or a bug in postgres. |
| 16:23 | <seanh-ansca> | Coronel: assuming you were telling the truth, which i don't think you are, the 'investigation' you're doing sounds like a bunch of crap and i doubt anyone in here would help you anyway |
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| 16:24 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: I'm sorry, that was rude. Here, in your native language: Callarte imbécil. |
| 16:24 | <Coronel> | seanh-ansca Here in Tarímbaro to us it affect gravely the narcoviolence and such. The Secretariat of Public Security Municipal takes any threat seriously even irc chatter. |
| 16:25 | <swaj> | you guys must not have much to do. |
| 16:25 | <Yaakov> | seanh-ansca: It's codswallop. Don't take it even a *little* seriously. |
| 16:25 | <swaj> | if that's true. |
| 16:25 | * | seanh-ansca pats Coronel on the head |
| 16:25 | <Yaakov> | seanh-ansca: Do a little research on the domain name. It is a PUBLIC fear.org domain. I could come from that address if I wanted to. |
| 16:25 | <swaj> | meanwhile: yay, dnssec is up for my domains. <3 NSD |
| 16:26 | <seanh-ansca> | Coronel: that's nice, i'll make sure to give your mom a gleeming report about your progress the next time i see her |
| 16:26 | <Coronel> | swaj the ayuntamiento to me assigned all cibercrimes |
| 16:26 | <seanh-ansca> | Yaakov: but i like feeding the trolls! |
| 16:26 | <Coronel> | and this is my task to preliminarily investigate |
| 16:26 | <BP{k}> | his mom is probably busy doing Valtazar Gaona |
| 16:26 | <Coronel> | any threats or crime chatter |
| 16:26 | <Obsidian|server> | Coronel: you know it's illegal to falsely claim a position of government authority under UN law, yes? |
| 16:26 | <seanh-ansca> | BP{k}: :D |
| 16:26 | <Yaakov> | seanh-ansca: And, I have an admission from this nitwit that the HE tunnel is for "trolling only". |
| 16:27 | <Yaakov> | Obsidian|server: He actually *is* in Mexico, so we could contact the Federales. |
| 16:27 | <dwfreed> | Yaakov: did you poke HE about this? |
| 16:27 | <Yaakov> | He probably doesn't imagine we'd do that. |
| 16:27 | <swaj> | he's using an HE.net tunnel :P |
| 16:27 | <Obsidian|server> | Yaakov: oh goodie! |
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| 16:27 | * | dwfreed waves to Perihelion |
| 16:27 | <@Perihelion> | Hai |
| 16:27 | <Yaakov> | I did, and they followed up, once, but they didn't tell me about the disposition. I have a ticket open, though. |
| 16:27 | <rnowak> | OH NO |
| 16:27 | <swaj> | Perihelion: you're just in time. The federales are here! :P |
| 16:27 | <Obsidian|server> | Coronel: also, you have zero jurisdiction, so you wouldn't be able to do a damn thing :) |
| 16:28 | <@Perihelion> | swaj: ono |
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| 16:28 | <Yaakov> | In any case, this fool is in Tijuana. And he comes from a cable moden. |
| 16:28 | <Yaakov> | m |
| 16:28 | <Yaakov> | So, it would be very easy for Mexican authorities to find him. |
| 16:28 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 16:28 | <eka> | lol http://pastebin.com/M53vPsrE |
| 16:28 | <dwfreed> | Yaakov: poke them a little harder, and point them to google.com/search?q=Erasmo+Sanchez+Tarímbaro |
| 16:28 | <Coronel> | Obsidian|server actually any information gathered would be used to generate an international warrant with cooperation of Plan Mérida |
| 16:29 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: You are estupido. |
| 16:29 | <Obsidian|server> | Coronel: and said international warrant would not be recognized by any country |
| 16:29 | <Yaakov> | dwfreed: If you want to invest some time, I can give you the ticket number... |
| 16:29 | <Coronel> | Obsidian|server as it relates to terrorism yes it would |
| 16:30 | <swaj> | Coronel: and good luck with getting extradition based on a lame IRC threat :) |
| 16:30 | <Obsidian|server> | however, identity theft / impersonating an officer of the government / fraud could be something that'd get you nice jailtime |
| 16:30 | <Coronel> | as soon as I have all pertinent details it will be passed on to AFI |
| 16:30 | <Coronel> | and the PGR |
| 16:30 | <dwfreed> | Yaakov: nah, I've got too much other stuff to do, I just wanted to see what google would bring up |
| 16:30 | <swaj> | what about the WTF? |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 16:30 | <swaj> | or the LOL? |
| 16:30 | <Obsidian|server> | Coronel: "terrorism" being defined as "he said the word 'pie'" |
| 16:31 | <BP{k}> | ZOMG .. THE AMERICAN FILM INSTITUTE! |
| 16:31 | <rnowak> | the bastards! |
| 16:31 | <seanh-ansca> | Obsidian|server: how about faking from drug info in coronels name and getting the drug guys to take care of him |
| 16:31 | <Obsidian|server> | nawww |
| 16:31 | <swaj> | AND PROJECT GOTHAM RACING!? |
| 16:31 | <seanh-ansca> | probably faster than telling the popo ;) |
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| 16:31 | <Coronel> | swaj two words Gringo Patriot Act |
| 16:31 | <Obsidian|server> | The cartels would take care of him first |
| 16:32 | <Yaakov> | dwfreed: Well, I have invested more time than this nitwit deserves. But I wish that OFTC would gline him. |
| 16:32 | <Obsidian|server> | Perihelion: racist statement, violates network/channel policy :) |
| 16:32 | <@mikegrb> | ruflz |
| 16:32 | <swaj> | Coronel: ROFL! Do you think the USA would extrodite *anyone* to Mexico? Especially someone who made a thread over IRC? |
| 16:32 | <swaj> | threat* |
| 16:32 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 16:32 | <stan_theman> | lol |
| 16:32 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: "Gringo" is a racial slur. I am going to report you to the authorities. |
| 16:32 | <Coronel> | not illegal here |
| 16:33 | <Obsidian|server> | Actually it is illegal here. |
| 16:33 | <dwfreed> | deploy counter-trolling! |
| 16:33 | <swaj> | where's tj when we need him :P |
| 16:33 | <Obsidian|server> | OFTC has its own laws. |
| 16:33 | <rnowak> | swaj has insulted my intergalactic confederation, and I demand him to be extradited |
| 16:33 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: It is very unprofessional, and I percieve it as a racial threat. You are responsible for an International incident. Your superiors will hear of this. |
| 16:33 | <Coronel> | swaj yes they would and have under the new antinarco initiatives |
| 16:33 | <Coronel> | Yaakov they will just laugh it off |
| 16:33 | <Obsidian|server> | Yaakov: I know a few guys in DoD. |
| 16:33 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: And by superiors, I mean the people living in shacks outside Mexico City. |
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| 16:34 | <Coronel> | the chilangos nacos have nothing to do with this investigation |
| 16:34 | <swaj> | be careful Yaakov, the federales might hack your Linode from those boxes. |
| 16:34 | <swaj> | :P |
| 16:34 | <linbot> | the gibson |
| 16:35 | -!- | seanh-ansca is now known as Coronels-brother |
| 16:35 | <Yaakov> | swaj: I live in fear of a fake minor Mexican official. It's tragic. |
| 16:35 | <Coronels-brother> | I wish to contact you for mutual business transaction, which will be of great benefit to both of us. I have a total amount of US$23.7million, which my LATE father saved for me for my future investment before his death. |
| 16:35 | <Coronels-brother> | I need your assistance to transfer this money into one of your account for investment purposes, Please do not hesitate to contact me on my direct mobile number with country code 27-83-517-4002, or send me e-mail. |
| 16:35 | <Coronels-brother> | On your favorable quick response, I will furnish you with detailed information. Terms regarding your benefit for your assistance will be reached in agreement. |
| 16:35 | <Yaakov> | Coronels-brother: Too believable in comparison. |
| 16:35 | <Coronels-brother> | :D |
| 16:36 | <Obsidian|server> | Coronels-brother: would you happen to be related to Coronel by any chance? |
| 16:36 | -!- | Coronels-brother is now known as seanh |
| 16:36 | <Obsidian|server> | you should give him the money |
| 16:36 | <Coronel> | Coronel is a range for military and police |
| 16:36 | <Coronel> | not a name |
| 16:36 | <Obsidian|server> | he's clearly trying to extort it from legitimate companies |
| 16:37 | <dwfreed> | heckman must be laughing too hard to type /mode +b ... |
| 16:37 | <Obsidian|server> | Coronel: police don't have a "colonel" rank. |
| 16:37 | <Yaakov> | Coronel: No?! Really?! Wow. |
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| 16:37 | <swaj> | yeah didn't he spew some crap in here about heckman? :P |
| 16:37 | <Obsidian|server> | that's exclusive to military forces |
| 16:37 | <Coronel> | obsidian|server our municipales do |
| 16:37 | <Obsidian|server> | no they don't. |
| 16:37 | <seanh> | Obsidian|server: most police officers do have colons though |
| 16:37 | <seanh> | that must be the connection |
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| 16:37 | <Coronel> | yes we have commanders subcommanders colonels |
| 16:37 | <Coronel> | etc |
| 16:37 | <Obsidian|server> | i'm looking at the rank right here for the various mexico provinces |
| 16:38 | <Obsidian|server> | not listed |
| 16:38 | <Yaakov> | My 'node has a kernel. |
| 16:38 | <Obsidian|server> | So, uh, why are you lying about your rank? |
| 16:38 | <Yaakov> | I am pretty sure it outranks this person. |
| 16:38 | <Obsidian|server> | Are you new? |
| 16:38 | <Coronel> | it is also used in US police departments |
| 16:38 | <Coronel> | check your sources obsidian|server |
| 16:38 | <Obsidian|server> | nope |
| 16:38 | <Coronel> | http://www.njsp.org/about/supt-bio.html |
| 16:39 | <Coronel> | On Monday June 2, 2003, Colonel Joseph R. Fuentes was selected by Governor James McGreevey to become the 14th Superintendent of the New Jersey State Police. |
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| 16:39 | <Yaakov> | State police departments do have colonels because they are paramilitary. |
| 16:39 | <Yaakov> | Localities generally do not. |
| 16:39 | <Obsidian|server> | also that person's part of the new jersey militia as well - that's his rank |
| 16:39 | <Yaakov> | But it doesn't matter because dear Coronel isn't an officer of anything at all. |
| 16:40 | <Obsidian|server> | He's the Superintendent, not Colonel of the police |
| 16:40 | <Yaakov> | Yes, that's not his police rank. |
| 16:41 | <EugeneKay> | Usage of higher ranks such as Captain and Colonel in civvy police depends upon the size of the department more than anything else. |
| 16:41 | <Yaakov> | Obsidian|server: Notice that Colonel Fuentes has an HISPANIC last name! |
| 16:41 | <EugeneKay> | You usually find it in major metro departments or state ones where they have so many suborganizations that it becomes necessary. |
| 16:42 | <Obsidian|server> | Yaakov: holy crap you're on to something |
| 16:42 | <Yaakov> | Obsidian|server: I think this is a conspiracy of some kind... |
| 16:42 | <Obsidian|server> | indeed |
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| 16:42 | <Yaakov> | Conspiracy to act threatening on the Internet, I think. |
| 16:42 | <Obsidian|server> | Yaakov: also I did a backtrace of this guy's system, cracked it and managed to reverse-lookup his personal information |
| 16:42 | <EugeneKay> | It's customary for former military service members to retain their rank as a name prefix, if they were high-rank. |
| 16:42 | <Obsidian|server> | got it posted here: http://ghz.me/t.htm |
| 16:43 | <Yaakov> | Poor heckman, how can he survive this? |
| 16:43 | <Obsidian|server> | also I put in a IP filter, he can't see what's on there :) |
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| 16:44 | <seanh> | i think i'm going to put 'supreme allied commander of IT' on my next biz card |
| 16:44 | <Yaakov> | seanh: Coronel is not good enough for you? |
| 16:44 | <Obsidian|server> | seanh: i like that idea |
| 16:44 | <dwfreed> | I imagine our favorite pseudoviking has fallen out of his chair from laughter and can't get up |
| 16:45 | <Obsidian|server> | we need to get him one of those life alert things |
| 16:45 | <seanh> | Yaakov: nah, too many people associate it with the mexican police force.. no idea why |
| 16:46 | <Yaakov> | seanh: That's so odd since there are none in the Mexican police... |
| 16:46 | <Yaakov> | Hard to say why... |
| 16:46 | <seanh> | Yaakov: i know right? |
| 16:46 | <Yaakov> | Totally. |
| 16:46 | <Obsidian|server> | Strange indeed |
| 16:47 | <EugeneKay> | Can I get some quick input on this design for my company site? http://eugenekay.com/img/caps/036.png |
| 16:47 | <EugeneKay> | I don't know diddly about design aesthetics. |
| 16:47 | <Coronel> | Yaakov that depends on municipality |
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| 16:47 | <Obsidian|server> | ...No it doesn't, you're a liar. |
| 16:47 | <Coronel> | yes it does |
| 16:48 | <Obsidian|server> | not at all |
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| 16:48 | <EugeneKay> | (The single-link on the left would be blue normally, with a red hover/focus highlight) |
| 16:48 | <Obsidian|server> | you're a liar, and a liar, and judging by how defensive you are and how you're avoiding specific subjects |
| 16:48 | <seanh> | EugeneKay: the grey boarder is weird if it's not consistent imho |
| 16:48 | <Obsidian|server> | you're apparently poor in bed, according to a criminal profiler friend |
| 16:49 | <EugeneKay> | Would you suggest a red? |
| 16:49 | <seanh> | EugeneKay: it's not the color, it's the fact that it exists in some places but not others. makes it feel uneven |
| 16:49 | <Obsidian|server> | EugeneKay: save yourself time, look at twitter bootstrap. Apache v2 license, very adaptable |
| 16:49 | <seanh> | Obsidian|server: he's still going to have to customize things |
| 16:49 | <EugeneKay> | Obsidian|server - this is a Drupal site, I'm using the Zen theme as a starting point. |
| 16:50 | <Obsidian|server> | indeed |
| 16:50 | <EugeneKay> | Just looking for a minimal get-it-looking-professional-enough ;-) |
| 16:50 | <Obsidian|server> | but that eases stuff like differences between browsers |
| 16:50 | <Obsidian|server> | alignment is a lot easier imo |
| 16:50 | <DephNet[Paul]> | stupid question, is "00 08 * * * cd /directory ; git pull" a valid crontab entry? |
| 16:50 | <EugeneKay> | Eh. It looks pixel-perfect in Chorme and Firefox. Good 'nuff for me. |
| 16:50 | <EugeneKay> | DephNet[Paul] - use a .sh script, really. |
| 16:51 | <Obsidian|server> | DephNet[Paul]: honestly you might want to toss that into a .sh script and run that, for maintenance's sake |
| 16:51 | <DephNet[Paul]> | hmm, true |
| 16:51 | <Obsidian|server> | that way you can tweak it easier in the future - when you need to change something and don't know what's going on, crontab is not obvious where things are |
| 16:52 | <Obsidian|server> | EugeneKay: bring down the segment with the logo so it has a matching top area like the right side, tbh |
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| 16:52 | <DephNet[Paul]> | but if, for some mad reason, I didn't want to use an sh script, would that work? |
| 16:52 | <EugeneKay> | So it's even? |
| 16:52 | <seanh> | Obsidian|server: unless all your machines config changes are in puppet/etckeeper |
| 16:52 | <seanh> | EugeneKay: yes, that's what i was saying earlier |
| 16:52 | <EugeneKay> | Gotcha. I'll give it a go. |
| 16:53 | <Obsidian|server> | yes, having it attached to the top there makes it feel heavy left |
| 16:53 | <EugeneKay> | At the moment, the right sidebar does the same thing as the left, but I'm not planning to have any right columns |
| 16:53 | <EugeneKay> | I'll have to take y'alls word for it. I don't do design.... the logo art cost me $50 on Reddit :-p |
| 16:53 | <Obsidian|server> | also breadcrumbs as a tabby thing may backfire in some instances - think forward compatibility, when some genius wants to have a sentence long page title |
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| 16:54 | <seanh> | depending on how you want the body of the right to look you might want to extent the left column to the page bottom |
| 16:54 | <Obsidian|server> | ...oh what zerotri was in here? |
| 16:54 | <EugeneKay> | Well, "some idiot" would be me. |
| 16:54 | <EugeneKay> | And I know better. |
| 16:54 | <EugeneKay> | You can't see it, but the view / edit buttons show up as a tabby thing on the right side of that same box |
| 16:54 | <seanh> | EugeneKay: the favicon looks cyrillic btw |
| 16:54 | <seanh> | not that it's a bad thing, but it caught my eye |
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| 16:55 | <EugeneKay> | Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. |
| 16:55 | <Obsidian|server> | EugeneKay: use the page title in the tab then - keep breadcrumbs separate tbh - maybe find a way to hide them |
| 16:55 | <EugeneKay> | I can turn 'em off. |
| 16:56 | <Obsidian|server> | or have them in there at the top of the main chunk of the right, and just small font, and light color text, to make it less visually cluttering |
| 16:56 | <seanh> | EugeneKay: i found blueprint to be a better starting point than zen btw, but ymmv |
| 16:56 | <EugeneKay> | I think what i'll do is customize them to be just the page title in most instances |
| 16:56 | <seanh> | EugeneKay: http://drupal.org/project/blueprint |
| 16:56 | <EugeneKay> | ANd turn off the <h1>$title</h1> bit |
| 16:56 | <Obsidian|server> | keep the h1 title |
| 16:56 | <Obsidian|server> | just display:none it in a style attr |
| 16:57 | <EugeneKay> | AH, for SEO? |
| 16:57 | <Obsidian|server> | Some bots want that in there, so having it hidden will be best |
| 16:57 | <Obsidian|server> | yep |
| 16:57 | <EugeneKay> | See, this is the sort of thing I know diddly about. |
| 16:58 | <Obsidian|server> | also, what're you going for - XHTML, or HTML5? |
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| 16:58 | <goose> | so.. IPv6 London? :) |
| 16:59 | <EugeneKay> | It's listed as being XHTML |
| 16:59 | <EugeneKay> | I'll run it through a standards check eventually, but like I said, Drupal :-p |
| 16:59 | <EugeneKay> | I'm gonan end up Varnishing the site to HTML and single-filing the CSS. |
| 17:00 | <Obsidian|server> | html5 is nice, don't have as much markup to write |
| 17:03 | <Obsidian|server> | also might want to play with css attr's border-radius if you get the time, can make things look amazing if you get it just right |
| 17:03 | <EugeneKay> | Does that work in IE nowadays? |
| 17:03 | <Obsidian|server> | It does, iirc. |
| 17:04 | <synapt> | IE9+ has native support for it I believe, there's a CSS hack for most CSS3 things IE6-8 though |
| 17:04 | <Obsidian|server> | some of the more fun stuff like text-shadows do not however |
| 17:04 | <synapt> | or well .htc hack to be more specific |
| 17:04 | <Obsidian|server> | i had some fun with box shadows and border radii here, love how it had turned out: http://codebite.net/~obsidian/scrii_new2.png |
| 17:04 | <EugeneKay> | I also remember that for Firefox you needed to use a -moz property for some stupid reason |
| 17:04 | <Obsidian|server> | the header was what I was working on |
| 17:04 | <Obsidian|server> | That's no longer necessary as of...FF4? |
| 17:05 | <EugeneKay> | Sounds believable. |
| 17:05 | <synapt> | Obsidian|server: At least |
| 17:05 | <synapt> | if not 3.6 |
| 17:05 | <Obsidian|server> | Mighta been 3.6, yeah. |
| 17:05 | <Obsidian|server> | Worth noting, though - outside border radius is hard to do :\ |
| 17:06 | <Obsidian|server> | that's why that one hard corner is in there. Couldn't figure it out. |
| 17:06 | <EugeneKay> | I remember seeing some amazing CSS drawing tricks with borders. ABle to draw a 5-point star, among other things. |
| 17:06 | <EugeneKay> | Ah, here it is. http://css-tricks.com/examples/ShapesOfCSS/ |
| 17:07 | <Obsidian|server> | Indeed. I was messing with this css stuff for practical applications, anyways. |
| 17:07 | <synapt> | Obsidian|server: Just remember there are two different effects to border-radius, use of px and % result in different 'effects' :P |
| 17:07 | <Obsidian|server> | synapt: Indeed. |
| 17:07 | <Obsidian|server> | I've stuck to px myself. |
| 17:07 | <synapt> | I love the % effect, it makes for creating nifty border designs |
| 17:07 | * | Obsidian|server checks to see how the header appears in opera and IE |
| 17:07 | <EugeneKay> | I prefer px to em or % |
| 17:07 | <synapt> | especially if you use a 'dotted' border style |
| 17:07 | <Obsidian|server> | I need a laugh. Let's see how bad IE screws it up |
| 17:08 | <Obsidian|server> | ...Yep, IE9, no placeholders. |
| 17:08 | <rnowak> | IE does ok with html doctype these days, but still a bit funky :/ |
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| 17:08 | <EugeneKay> | The only shape that failed for me on IE was the yin-yang |
| 17:08 | <Obsidian|server> | ...AHAHAH. It's failing to login, even! XD |
| 17:09 | <Obsidian|server> | IE can't login to my site's prototype as it's not passing the form key properly. |
| 17:09 | <EugeneKay> | Nice. |
| 17:09 | <Obsidian|server> | I HAVE AN IE-PROOF SITE |
| 17:09 | <Obsidian|server> | BEST DAY EVER |
| 17:09 | <rnowak> | what is it doing differently, Obsidian|server? |
| 17:09 | <EugeneKay> | I like to maintain compatibility with lynx & curl |
| 17:09 | <EugeneKay> | (doesn't everybody browse the web with curl once in a while?) |
| 17:10 | <rnowak> | EugeneKay: are you rms? |
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| 17:10 | <EugeneKay> | Only halfway. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11386376/Pictures/IMG_0331_small.jpg |
| 17:10 | <rnowak> | hah |
| 17:11 | <EugeneKay> | Hrm, I think I still have that set as my Gravatar. |
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| 17:12 | <EugeneKay> | There, fixed. No more horrorshow. |
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| 17:34 | * | Obsidian|server goes to tip off the netops on a smaller irc network to the "coronel" |
| 17:35 | <kyhwana> | ajmitch: oh hai, you're on geekzone now? ;) |
| 17:36 | <ajmitch> | kyhwana: have been for months, why? |
| 17:36 | <kyhwana> | oh, just saw your SNAP v6 post |
| 17:36 | <ajmitch> | it's not like I post on there often, as you can see :) |
| 17:37 | <kyhwana> | yeah |
| 17:38 | <Daevien> | about as often as heckman's mom showers? |
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| 18:02 | <LeoSh> | I just want to double check, If I prepay for a linode for 12 or 24 months and then need to upgrade it to a larger slice, does the prepay apply as credit? |
| 18:03 | <kyhwana> | hmm, good question |
| 18:03 | <@akerl> | LeoSh: The billing system does it's magic. You would be invoiced for the difference between the new plan and the old plan |
| 18:03 | <@akerl> | s/it's/its/ |
| 18:04 | <LeoSh> | @akerl thanks! I just want to double check that I'm not locked into that size for the duration of the pre-pay |
| 18:04 | * | kyhwana setup! |
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| 18:05 | <@akerl> | Yup. You're never locked in, resize away! |
| 18:06 | <Daevien> | akerl: speaking of locked in, did you push heckman back in his cage & make sure the door was locked? |
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| 18:08 | <@akerl> | Daevien: Yea. He guessed the combo on the lock we were using. Turns out 4321 wasn't as secure as previously hoped |
| 18:08 | <Daevien> | it kept him guessing for quite a while though |
| 18:11 | <avenj> | my previous employer's security codes for the doors are all the same as the last four digits of the phone number :| |
| 18:11 | <avenj> | at least, I really expect they haven't gotten any smarter recently. |
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| 18:30 | <LeoSh> | Slicehost has internal IP's for traffic between slices, is there anything similar on linode? The linode I just generated only seems to have a public facing IP... |
| 18:30 | <@akerl> | LeoSh: Each Linode has a private IPv4 address |
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| 18:31 | <@akerl> | You can enable it under the "Remote Access" tab in the Manager |
| 18:31 | <@akerl> | It takes a reboot to use it, and you'll need to configure static IPs, as explained in the link on that page of the manager |
| 18:31 | <Daevien> | you can also use ipv6 within the same DC without bandwidth charges |
| 18:32 | <@akerl> | To note, the private IP is "private" to the datacenter, not to your specific Linodes, so you still want to make sure you're secure via iptables or other |
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| 18:33 | <LeoSh> | akerl: thanks! so I still need to manually add it to after I restart /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 18:34 | <@akerl> | What do you mean by "Manually add it"? |
| 18:34 | <LeoSh> | sorry, can't type. if I enable it on the remote access page and reboot, do I need to do anything else for it to work? |
| 18:35 | <@akerl> | Yes, you'll need to configure your /etc/network/interfaces to use both your public and private IPs |
| 18:35 | <Daevien> | yes. the steps the directions on the manager page tell you to do |
| 18:35 | <@akerl> | The link on the remote access page for "static IPs" explains it |
| 18:35 | <@akerl> | Basically, you can get the public IPv4 address via DHCP, but if you want multiple IPs, you need to staticly configure them |
| 18:36 | <LeoSh> | got it, thanks. Slicehost does the interfaces config automatically. |
| 18:36 | <@caker> | ew |
| 18:37 | <Daevien> | slicehost also doesn't really exist anymore either, i'd take manual 1 time config over that :p |
| 18:37 | <@akerl> | LeoSh: I'm not sure I'd want my provider mucking with my configs... |
| 18:38 | <LeoSh> | Daevien: that's the reason why I'm here - not complaining - just noting that 'feature' :-) |
| 18:38 | * | Daevien mucks with akerl's configs and migrates him to centos |
| 18:39 | <ajmitch> | Daevien: careful, he may enjoy it |
| 18:39 | <@akerl> | If I saw my Linodes running centos, first step would be nuke everything |
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| 18:41 | <Daevien> | no lie, i dealt with a dude last friday that just deployed a new server for a company a friend works for.. while asking him what all it ran and stuff to see what he knew, i asked him what version of centos it was running (noticed that much but didn't catch version on the scroll). he said it was 5.7 instead of 6 because he likes to stay a year behind centos latest release so it's not too bleeding edge |
| 18:42 | <EugeneKay> | Lulz |
| 18:42 | <Daevien> | i muted the speakerphone and nearly fell over laughing |
| 18:42 | <Daevien> | and then told my friend to make sure he closed the port forward to that server as soon as he could |
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| 18:47 | <Solver> | nyan cat in ansi! |
| 18:48 | <Solver> | telnet miku.acm.uiuc.ed |
| 18:48 | <Solver> | telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu |
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| 18:49 | <Daevien> | welcome to yesterday? :p |
| 18:50 | <Solver> | actually it is tomorrow here :) |
| 18:50 | <Solver> | I'm enjoying Friday already |
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| 19:05 | <vauban> | congratulations |
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| 19:22 | <dr_jkl> | um |
| 19:22 | <dr_jkl> | hm. |
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| 19:24 | <kyhwana> | hmm |
| 19:24 | <kyhwana> | ? |
| 19:25 | * | kyhwana enjoys a beer in the sun.. took his 30th off work |
| 19:27 | <swaj> | damn ISC dlv site is telling me the DNSKEY isn't in the validity period for one of my domains, but it definitely is.... |
| 19:27 | <Yaakov> | YOU ARE INVALID |
| 19:28 | <dr_jkl> | trying to do something |
| 19:28 | <dr_jkl> | but i'm not sure how best to accomplish it or even if it's possible |
| 19:29 | <swaj> | dig @ns1.linode.com +dnssec soa draconanarts.com |
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| 19:29 | <swaj> | tell me how 20111230XXXXXX is not in the future.... |
| 19:29 | <bd_> | swaj: chinese calendar? |
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| 19:31 | <tonyyarusso> | I have a mail server that consists of Postfix, Dovecot, and Roundcube on Ubuntu accessed via IMAP. I recently got an iPhone, and it has this concept of "PUSH notifications", which as I understand it is supposed to use less data transfer and battery power. Is there a way to add that to my mail capability server? |
| 19:33 | <@akerl> | tonyyarusso: My understanding of iPhone Push Notifications suggests that the answer is "Yes, but not really" |
| 19:33 | <Daevien> | if only roundcube had the concept of security, it would be a nice webmail |
| 19:33 | <kyhwana> | dr_jkl: what is it? |
| 19:34 | <tonyyarusso> | akerl: care to expand on that thought? |
| 19:34 | <tonyyarusso> | Daevien: What issues do you know of with it? |
| 19:34 | <@akerl> | iirc, even gmail doesn't do push through the iphone's mail app. They had to have their own app. |
| 19:34 | <tonyyarusso> | I believe you are correct. |
| 19:34 | <Daevien> | tonyyarusso: it's probably easier to say how often it DOESN'T have an issue :p |
| 19:35 | <@akerl> | Basically, it's not a matter of "Teach the server to do push magic, profit". You'd need to have a matching app and do the dance with apple to get push magic for the app, and then have the app/server communicate |
| 19:35 | <Daevien> | http://www.hoshuha.com/blog/dovecot-and-iphone-push.html first result on google for iphone push email dovecot |
| 19:35 | <tonyyarusso> | Daevien: what kinds of issues? |
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| 19:35 | <seanh> | tonyyarusso: apples notion of push involves hitting apis on servers they control to notify the application that it needs to do something (like "check your mail") |
| 19:35 | <tonyyarusso> | akerl: Oh, well that is stupid. |
| 19:35 | <tonyyarusso> | I was hoping it was just a feature I could add with some kind of plugin. |
| 19:36 | * | akerl defers to Daevien's google-fu |
| 19:37 | <tonyyarusso> | Daevien: I found that link, but got scared off when I got to "set up your e-mail account as a Microsoft Exchange account". |
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| 19:37 | <swaj> | basically, you have to set up your email account as exchange |
| 19:37 | <swaj> | and dovecot appears to be able to work that way |
| 19:37 | <Daevien> | heh. i haven't used it, but it's what i found on google... i'm apple free (well except for an old g4 that i infact have never booted but technically do own i suppose) |
| 19:38 | <bob2> | tonyyarusso, no you can't have |
| 19:38 | <bob2> | iphone doesn't do IMAP IDLE |
| 19:38 | <Daevien> | and roundcube has a bad track record for security. most people that care / know abotu security run away from it |
| 19:38 | <bob2> | so you can poll, or use a hilarious piece of shit php MAPI thing |
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| 19:38 | <linbot> | New news from forums: How to achieve "parked domains/alias domains" with in Web Servers and Web App Development <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8134>; |
| 19:38 | <tonyyarusso> | Daevien: If you're going to say it has bad security, I'd really like to know specifics you've encountered. |
| 19:39 | <tonyyarusso> | 'k, polling it is |
| 19:39 | <bob2> | http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cve+roundcube |
| 19:39 | <Daevien> | roundcube security problems search on google: 1,850,000 results |
| 19:40 | <bob2> | http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-8905/Roundcube.html |
| 19:40 | <Daevien> | 282,00 for bob's search of cve roundcube :p |
| 19:40 | <Daevien> | er 282,000 |
| 19:40 | <swaj> | you know how you get push email to your iphone for your domain? |
| 19:40 | <swaj> | stop hosting your own email and use gapps |
| 19:40 | <bob2> | that is indeed an option |
| 19:41 | <@akerl> | swaj: Except that google's gmail app is meh, and they don't do push for the default mail app |
| 19:41 | <bob2> | akerl, yeah they do |
| 19:41 | <tonyyarusso> | number of google hits or number of CVEs doesn't mean much without data on severity and patching speed... |
| 19:41 | <swaj> | akerl: except, yes they do. google Sync |
| 19:41 | <bob2> | (and have for a very long time) |
| 19:41 | <swaj> | akerl: set up your account as an exchange account. It's worked since like... iphone 3g |
| 19:41 | <@akerl> | Ew |
| 19:41 | <bob2> | well, what do you want, the iphone doesn't do imap idle |
| 19:41 | <swaj> | ew? because it has MS'es name on it? ActiveSync works. |
| 19:41 | <bob2> | and idle's kinda shit too |
| 19:41 | <Daevien> | your choice tony. if you don't care enough to do your own research, feel free to keep running it. just remember we warned you ;) |
| 19:42 | <rnowak> | ignorance is bliss |
| 19:42 | <tonyyarusso> | bob2: The obvious answer to "what do you want" would be "for it to do IMAP IDLE" :P |
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| 19:42 | <bob2> | that woudn't be super great either |
| 19:43 | <tonyyarusso> | Daevien: Well, your warning could have been more useful. |
| 19:43 | <bob2> | afaik you can idle-poll one mailbox at a time per connection |
| 19:43 | <swaj> | it actually sort of *does* support IMAP IDLE, because that's what Yahoo mail uses, and yahoo's push mail works on iOS |
| 19:43 | <swaj> | but it isn't enabled for anything else |
| 19:44 | <bob2> | really? |
| 19:44 | <rnowak> | who uses email anyway right? facebook im is everything anyone would need today! |
| 19:44 | <swaj> | yeah |
| 19:44 | <swaj> | Yahoo doesn't use activesync/exchange |
| 19:44 | <swaj> | it's IMAP |
| 19:44 | <swaj> | and push works for it |
| 19:44 | <bob2> | TIL |
| 19:45 | <bob2> | http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2007/07/pop_imap_and_yahoo_push_email.html disagrees |
| 19:45 | <KyleXY> | It's fucking iOS, heh |
| 19:46 | <bob2> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP |
| 19:46 | <bob2> | heh sms magic |
| 19:46 | <bob2> | which I think is what blackberry does also |
| 19:47 | <bob2> | but afaik blackberry requires carrier support and yahoo does not |
| 19:47 | <tonyyarusso> | Daevien: Looking at http://secunia.com/advisories/product/19066/?task=statistics , it looks like Secunia doesn't think there's much going on. bob2's link doesn't show many either. |
| 19:47 | <bob2> | compared to what? |
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| 19:48 | <Daevien> | bob2: shush with your logical questions! |
| 19:49 | <bob2> | I'm not saying any other php webmail thing is any good either |
| 19:49 | * | Daevien sticks "i <3 php" bumpersticker on bob2's car |
| 19:49 | <tonyyarusso> | wait, hold that thought - cvedetails seems to be listed *unpatched* ones. |
| 19:50 | <tonyyarusso> | I don't think I believe that list as such... |
| 19:50 | <tonyyarusso> | or not, I can't really tell. |
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| 19:51 | <tonyyarusso> | bob2: http://secunia.com/advisories/product/9633/?task=statistics, for instance |
| 19:51 | <bob2> | I have no idea what secunia is |
| 19:52 | <tonyyarusso> | Or http://secunia.com/advisories/product/288/?task=statistics |
| 19:52 | <tonyyarusso> | They're a security firm. |
| 19:53 | <bob2> | ok |
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| 19:54 | <tanto> | from http://www.linode.com/faq.cfm how do i roll my own distro and upload it? |
| 19:55 | <rnowak> | !custom |
| 19:55 | <linbot> | rnowak: "custom" could be http://thegrebs.com/~michael/custom_howto/ |
| 19:55 | <tanto> | i want scientific linux 6.1 |
| 19:55 | <rnowak> | !library custom |
| 19:55 | <linbot> | rnowak: 1. Running a Custom Linux Distro on a Linode VPS - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/custom-instances/custom-distro-howto | 2. Run Custom Kernels and Distribution Templates on Linode Instances - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/custom-instances | 3. Run a Custom Compiled Kernel with PV-GRUB - http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/custom-instances/pv-grub-custom-compiled-kernel |
| 19:55 | <bob2> | http://library.linode.com/linode-platform/custom-instances/custom-distro-howto |
| 19:55 | <bob2> | consider how much you care, though |
| 19:55 | <tanto> | consider how much i care? |
| 19:56 | <tanto> | ahh using dd |
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| 19:58 | <tanto> | so when is linode going to roll out scientific linux? centos is clearly a failboat right now and scientific linux is the closest thing we have to RHEL |
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| 20:01 | <@akerl> | tanto: For SL, you're probably better rolling centos and then switching the repos over |
| 20:01 | <kyhwana> | failbaot linux |
| 20:02 | <@akerl> | tanto: http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7454 You can hop right over |
| 20:03 | <tanto> | what and make another bump on that thread to have you guys make an actual scientific linux distro? :) |
| 20:04 | <@akerl> | I was referring to distro hopping, but we have that "Feature Request" forum for a reason, and you're certainly welcome to use it :) |
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| 20:05 | <tanto> | yeah burning with centos then changing it to SL is not ideal especially with api and bootstrapping |
| 20:05 | <tonyyarusso> | akerl: So how many of the responses to the "What three things do you want to see" thread do you think will be done in the next 5 years? |
| 20:06 | <bob2> | yeah akerl can definitely preannounce products now |
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| 20:07 | <Daevien> | bob2: he can read minds too |
| 20:07 | <rnowak> | what, you mean you can't? |
| 20:07 | <bob2> | I just want ipv6 in TOKYO |
| 20:08 | <Daevien> | rnowak: there are very few thoughts in this channel that anyone woudl want to read |
| 20:08 | <tonyyarusso> | bob2: I didn't ask which ones :) |
| 20:09 | <@akerl> | tonyyarusso: 42 |
| 20:09 | <@akerl> | Give or take around 9001 |
| 20:09 | <joshdotsmith> | how do you connect to a remote database over tcp? |
| 20:10 | <joshdotsmith> | I'm trying tcp://postgres:password@host.com/database |
| 20:10 | <MTecknology> | akerl: α = 0.95 ? |
| 20:10 | <@akerl> | joshdotsmith: Is the database listening? |
| 20:10 | <tanto> | joshdotsmith: by default postgres doesn't listen on a public interface, so you need to set postgres to listen on your public IP, and then open the firewall for postgres's port (5432 is default) |
| 20:10 | <joshdotsmith> | ahh probably not then |
| 20:10 | <tanto> | ideally you'd open your firewall for only your remote client IP(s), and not to everyone |
| 20:11 | <joshdotsmith> | how should I go about doing this? like where should I learn? |
| 20:11 | <tanto> | google |
| 20:11 | <@akerl> | joshdotsmith: Out of curiousity, what are you attempting to accomplish? |
| 20:12 | <joshdotsmith> | googling but some of this stuff isn't great |
| 20:12 | <@akerl> | Like "end goal of this conversation", not "connect via tcp" |
| 20:12 | <joshdotsmith> | I've got an app in the same datacenter as a db server |
| 20:12 | <JoeK> | i make ll my connections over UDP |
| 20:12 | <JoeK> | like a boss |
| 20:12 | <rnowak> | connections over UDP? |
| 20:13 | <@akerl> | joshdotsmith: Step one: Use the private network. |
| 20:13 | <rnowak> | that's hardcore |
| 20:13 | <Daevien> | rnowak: sadly, maskes more sense than his usual ideas |
| 20:13 | <joshdotsmith> | akerl: it's not with Linode |
| 20:13 | <tanto> | joshdotsmith: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/postgres-allow-remote-access-tcp-connection.html |
| 20:13 | <JoeK> | i setupped my usb card to use udp |
| 20:13 | <tonyyarusso> | Databases are totally okay with unreliable connections! |
| 20:13 | <rnowak> | they are not connections ok |
| 20:14 | <joshdotsmith> | akerl: I'm a Linode customer, but I'm using Rackspace's DFW datacenter for this Node.js app |
| 20:14 | <@akerl> | joshdotsmith: tanto's link has what you're looking for :) |
| 20:15 | <joshdotsmith> | what's the /24 after the IP? |
| 20:15 | <tanto> | ip block notation |
| 20:15 | <tonyyarusso> | joshdotsmith: CIDR notation for the network mask |
| 20:15 | <tanto> | so 10.1.2.0/24 == 10.1.2.* |
| 20:15 | <tanto> | the entire 10.1.2 class C range |
| 20:15 | <tanto> | if it's just 1 IP do: 10.1.2.3/32 |
| 20:16 | <joshdotsmith> | oh, cool |
| 20:16 | <joshdotsmith> | thanks |
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| 20:17 | <dommo> | Hey just bought +10gb storage, resizing image... it's been cranking away for 15 minutes. Expected? |
| 20:17 | <dommo> | Last resize I did took like 3 mins |
| 20:18 | <tonyyarusso> | Sounds a little long to me - staff can poke at it to confirm what's going on. Occasionally jobs get stuck in the queue and don't run for a while it seems. |
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| 20:19 | <dommo> | yeah now my linode is permadown because the queue is blocked.. |
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| 20:24 | <kyhwana> | hmm, file a ticket? |
| 20:25 | <dommo> | Just did. Gr. |
| 20:25 | <dommo> | I love automation, except when I don't |
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| 20:27 | <tonyyarusso> | dommo: "permadown" might be a poor choice considering their usual response time. |
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| 20:52 | <tanto> | anyone happen to know of other secure android platforms like whispercore? |
| 20:53 | <tanto> | http://whispersys.com/whispercore.html unfortunately not compatible with htc evo |
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| 20:57 | <amitz> | say, how to open a port in my linode temporarily so that I can telnet from my computer to linode to check if that port is filtered by my isp? |
| 20:57 | <amitz> | s/open/listen(or whatever the term) |
| 20:58 | <kyhwana> | what |
| 20:58 | <kyhwana> | oh, use netcat |
| 20:58 | <kyhwana> | make sure your iptables rules arent blocking it either |
| 20:58 | <amitz> | mkay, noted. let me rtfm netcat |
| 20:59 | <Daevien> | ENTERPRISE |
| 21:00 | <encode> | amitz: i'm pretty sure there's a java application available from $largeCorporation to do that |
| 21:00 | <amitz> | i'm not seeing that capability. I want to open a port instead of finding out which port is open |
| 21:01 | <encode> | but if you want a cheap and nasty solution, you can probably figure it out yourself |
| 21:01 | <amitz> | encode: yes, but the download will hog my bandwidth for hours. |
| 21:01 | <Daevien> | amitz: netcat will listen |
| 21:01 | <encode> | rather than playing around with netcat, i would just tell sshd to listen on that port, and try and connect |
| 21:02 | <encode> | but that's me |
| 21:02 | <encode> | and i don't know how to use netcat either |
| 21:03 | <Daevien> | nc -l -p 1234 |
| 21:03 | <MTecknology> | I'm confused..... I miked hot peppers, liquid smoke, worstershire sauce, and some seasonings in a blender, put it in the fridge to keep good overnight, i open the blender, and yellow smoke comes out from it.... weird |
| 21:03 | <MTecknology> | encode: netcat is amazing :) |
| 21:03 | <encode> | Daevien: that's way too easy. I bet it won't scale to ENTERPRISE levels |
| 21:03 | <Daevien> | then telnet or whatever you like to that port (1234 in this case) and see if it connects |
| 21:03 | <encode> | MTecknology: apparently so |
| 21:04 | <dwfreed> | MTecknology: socat is better :P |
| 21:04 | <Daevien> | dwfreed: amitz = nyancat |
| 21:04 | <encode> | or just run tcpdump on your linode while you attempt to connect from home |
| 21:05 | <Daevien> | or, amitz, just use http://open.zorinaq.com/about/ |
| 21:05 | <Daevien> | "All 65k TCP ports, from 1 to 65535, are open on this web server." |
| 21:05 | <amitz> | col, but i must leave for now, noted, will see that Daevien |
| 21:05 | <chesty> | culz |
| 21:05 | <amitz> | or just use python, just remember. |
| 21:06 | <kyhwana> | or use nmap |
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| 21:46 | <LeoSh> | Is it possible to buy additional disk space to add to a linode? without bumping the actual linode up to a higher level? |
| 21:47 | <rnowak> | !extras LeoSh |
| 21:47 | <linbot> | Available extras: Disk: $ 1 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IPv4 addresses: $ 1 per address/month. To add extras, visit the Extras tab on a Linode. |
| 21:47 | <Daevien> | LeoSh: yes. but it quickly become sbetter to upgrade your linode itself. bigger linode = less other linodes on teh same host & more of all resources |
| 21:48 | <KyleXY> | I love the word "teh" |
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| 21:49 | * | Daevien kicks KyleXY in "teh" kneecap |
| 21:49 | <KyleXY> | ouch, I mean, yay! |
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| 21:49 | <LeoSh> | Daevien: Thanks! I don't need the other resources at all - this would effectively be a backup holder. for reference $1/GB month is 10x what Amazon EBS charges :-/ |
| 21:50 | <Daevien> | LeoSh: yeah and you get 10x the service & prformance with a linode over EBS (at least ;) |
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| 21:50 | <Daevien> | and if it's cheaper to go to a bigger package, even though you might not use the ram, it's still cheaper so go to that bigger package which gives you the resource you do need |
| 21:52 | <Daevien> | you could also do s3 connected to a linode or something for just pure storage at this point. some talk has been done about linode offering slower but larger space aka amazon offerings but nothing has been finalized (or at least announced as finalized anyway) |
| 21:53 | <Daevien> | linode storage is much faster than how most providers do storage. plus the cost of drives is crazy currently due to shortages |
| 21:53 | <LeoSh> | unfortunately s3 isn't an option since we need to compare against the snapshots |
| 21:53 | <LeoSh> | I've noticed that the linode drives are blazing fast |
| 21:53 | <LeoSh> | which is fantastic for a lot of stuff, but not for large storage dumps :-) |
| 21:55 | <LeoSh> | if the pricing for a lower performance storage block was in EBS's neighborhood, I'd set it up at Linode. |
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| 22:31 | <philip19002> | whee |
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| 22:58 | <MrKeuner> | is there a way to update an A record on linode DNS using bash console? |
| 22:58 | <kyhwana> | er |
| 22:59 | <MrKeuner> | trying to setup a seubdomain for my laptop |
| 22:59 | <kyhwana> | Does the API let you do that? I haven't played with the linode API before |
| 22:59 | <MrKeuner> | wasn't aware of an API |
| 22:59 | <kyhwana> | https://www.linode.com/api/ |
| 22:59 | <kyhwana> | obviously it would have to be via the API |
| 23:00 | <kyhwana> | https://www.linode.com/api/dns |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | pfffffft |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | screw that |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | 1) get account at dyndns.org for whocares.dyndns.org |
| 23:00 | <kyhwana> | why can't you use the linode web manager? |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | 2) install client to update whocares.dyndns.org |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | 3) CNAME bonghits.yourdomain.com to whocares.dyndns.org |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | 4) drink |
| 23:01 | <kyhwana> | MrKeuner: so the answqer is yes, using the API |
| 23:02 | <MrKeuner> | kyhwana, thanks API looks good |
| 23:02 | <rnowak> | I just put stuff in the hosts file, and linode's dns servers somehow pick it up |
| 23:02 | <MrKeuner> | bob2, I'll use your suggestion meanwhile implementing API solution |
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| 23:03 | <MrKeuner> | rnowak, that looks easy :) |
| 23:03 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 23:03 | <bob2> | lol |
| 23:03 | <rnowak> | yes, very much so |
| 23:03 | * | rnowak runs |
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| 23:07 | <MrKeuner> | thanks for suggestions everyone |
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| 23:07 | <atoussaint> | hello |
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| 23:16 | <atoussaint> | hello |
| 23:16 | <seanh-ansca> | hi |
| 23:16 | <seanh-ansca> | asl? |
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| 23:17 | <atoussaint> | asl? |
| 23:17 | <Nivex> | 21/yes/your place |
| 23:18 | <seanh-ansca> | :-p |
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| 23:19 | <atoussaint> | I have a linode server which I am trying to configure postfix so it allow relaying for authenticated user (over ssl) |
| 23:20 | <atoussaint> | the server work for the most part (receiving mail for its domain) but it refuse to relay mail |
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| 23:21 | <atoussaint> | is there someone here having a working configuration similar to what I'm trying to achieve? |
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| 23:23 | <tonyyarusso> | So, you just need to enable authentication? |
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| 23:23 | <atoussaint> | yes |
| 23:24 | <atoussaint> | for that, I configured dovecot-sasl |
| 23:24 | <bob2> | does it work? |
| 23:24 | <atoussaint> | yes |
| 23:25 | <atoussaint> | I can read mails from my user account |
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| 23:27 | <atoussaint> | dovecot is setup to use pam and the passwd files for user & password |
| 23:27 | <atoussaint> | and the ssl certificate are the same as for postfix |
| 23:28 | <tonyyarusso> | Look at the smtp_sasl_ options for main.cf |
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| 23:29 | <tonyyarusso> | Or not |
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| 23:34 | <tonyyarusso> | You going to stay this time? |
| 23:34 | <atoussaint> | I try |
| 23:35 | <atoussaint> | I keep getting booted |
| 23:35 | <tonyyarusso> | Look at the smtpd_sasl_ options for main.cf |
| 23:35 | <atoussaint> | ok |
| 23:36 | <tonyyarusso> | You'll enable it and link it to dovecot's auth |
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| 23:37 | <atoussaint> | here they are: smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes |
| 23:38 | <atoussaint> | smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth |
| 23:38 | <atoussaint> | the socket is there |
| 23:38 | <atoussaint> | smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot |
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| 23:39 | <atoussaint> | smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname |
| 23:39 | <kyhwana> | What do your logs say? |
| 23:39 | <atoussaint> | nothing, I'd like to increase the verbosity |
| 23:41 | <tonyyarusso> | private/auth, not private/dovecot-auth? Different from mine there. |
| 23:43 | <atoussaint> | I agree, but dovecot is configured with these config: |
| 23:43 | <atoussaint> | service auth { |
| 23:43 | <atoussaint> | unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth { |
| 23:43 | <atoussaint> | group = postfix |
| 23:43 | <atoussaint> | mode = 0660 |
| 23:43 | <atoussaint> | user = postfix |
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| 23:44 | <tonyyarusso> | 'k. Worry about the logs then until you get a useful message. |
| 23:44 | <atoussaint> | as for the log, postfix indeed logged an email which is sent from my regular mail account to the server |
| 23:44 | <atoussaint> | but it doesn't log any login attempt |
| 23:45 | <tonyyarusso> | What about the dovecot log? |
| 23:46 | <StevenK> | Postfix will not log login attempts |
| 23:46 | <StevenK> | Dovecot ought to |
| 23:46 | <atoussaint> | there's plenty of logs comming from dovecot with these lines: |
| 23:46 | <atoussaint> | Dec 1 23:33:13 li366-123 dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<alain>, method=PLAIN, rip=184.163.74.50, lip=96.126.109.123, mpid=25444, TLS |
| 23:46 | <atoussaint> | Dec 1 23:33:13 li366-123 dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<alain>, method=PLAIN, rip=184.163.74.50, lip=96.126.109.123, mpid=25446, TLS |
| 23:46 | <atoussaint> | Dec 1 23:33:58 li366-123 dovecot: imap(alain): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=94/732 |
| 23:46 | <atoussaint> | Dec 1 23:33:58 li366-123 dovecot: imap(alain): Disconnected: Logged out bytes=63/430 |
| 23:47 | <kyhwana> | Thats all imap, you said you had problems with smtp? |
| 23:47 | <tonyyarusso> | !pastebin |
| 23:47 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 23:47 | <atoussaint> | ok |
| 23:47 | <atoussaint> | kyhwana-- yup |
| 23:49 | <atoussaint> | kyhwana, dovecot also handle user authentication for postfix |
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| 23:59 | <linbot> | Point (0.71755595, 0.91055997) falls outside of the unit circle. Hits: 108449 of 137672 (π ≈ 3.150938462432448 - 0.009345808842655). http://π.hoopycat.com/ |
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