| --- | Log | opened Sat Oct 15 00:00:40 2011 |
| 00:01 | <kyhwana> | oh whoops |
| 00:05 | <praetorian> | ! |
| 00:05 | <praetorian> | !d |
| 00:05 | <linbot> | praetorian: Now 77% full (about 7 hours remaining). Last emptied yesterday at 13:50 UTC, last full Thursday at 02:30 UTC after running for 25.5 hours. |
| 00:05 | <chesty> | !! |
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| 00:10 | <StevenK> | 25 hours? It was running at about 11 hours about a month back, wasn't it? |
| 00:11 | <dcraig> | what's it fill up with? |
| 00:11 | <dcraig> | so confuse |
| 00:12 | <pharaun> | water |
| 00:12 | <Obsidian|server> | blood |
| 00:12 | <pharaun> | its humidity, winter, so its going down |
| 00:12 | <pharaun> | hoopy has less of an issue in the winter, its mainly the summer time |
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| 00:14 | <ralphholzmann> | heyo, I'm setting up a new lamp server on linode, and am having an issue with my apache config |
| 00:14 | <ralphholzmann> | the issue is that only the www-dot version of my site works |
| 00:14 | <ralphholzmann> | without the wwws, it doesn't |
| 00:14 | <pharaun> | Obsidian|server: and so thus it beguns, noise level is rising :> |
| 00:14 | <ralphholzmann> | http://sendtodropbox.com/ vs http://www.sendtodropbox.com/ |
| 00:14 | <Knight> | leenodah eh |
| 00:14 | <pharaun> | fix your redirect :) |
| 00:15 | <pharaun> | ralphholzmann: post your redirect rule |
| 00:16 | <dcraig> | maybe your apache config needs a "ServerAlias sendtodropbox.com" line |
| 00:17 | <dcraig> | perhaps after the "ServerName www.sendtodropbox.com" line |
| 00:18 | <dcraig> | now you've done it... |
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| 00:47 | <Ecksley> | Newb question here: Is their a relationship between the "echo "plato" > /etc/hostname" and a VirtualHost Servername/Serveralias. Do they need to be the same? |
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| 00:50 | <chesty> | they are independent |
| 00:51 | <chesty> | VirtualHost Servername/Serveralias needs to match dns |
| 00:52 | <gadams> | How much nom would a Linode nom if a Linode could om nom nom? |
| 00:52 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Newbie Question - What Distribution? in Sales Questions and Answers <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7919>; |
| 00:52 | <pharaun> | ? |
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| 00:52 | <pharaun> | gadams: all of the ram of course |
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| 00:56 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 00:56 | <@psandin> | all the cake too |
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| 01:16 | <Ecksley> | chesty: Thanks! Regarding, VirtualHost Servername/Serveralias - so one has to have a domain before they can be set? |
| 01:17 | <chesty> | Ecksley: well, you can make one up, but ideally a real domain would be better |
| 01:18 | <chesty> | Ecksley: like you can create a servername www.dongsandbongs.com and on your desktop add an entry for www.dongsandbongs.com in /etc/hosts |
| 01:18 | <chesty> | that will work from your desktop only |
| 01:20 | <Ecksley> | chesty: I think I get you. With MAMP install I can set it up as anything I want. But with my Linode install it has to be read to work. |
| 01:22 | <chesty> | sort of. so you have a mac deskop? if you add a fake name to /etc/hosts pointing to your linode ip address, you can create that domain as a servername on your linode and it will work only from your mac |
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| 01:24 | <Ecksley> | ahhhh... now I see. Where my local entries all say 127.0.0.1 I could put in my linode IP. |
| 01:25 | <chesty> | yes, like echo 123.456.789.012 www.fake.com >> /etc/hosts (where 123... is your linode ip address) |
| 01:26 | <chesty> | do that on your mac, then try ping www.fake.com |
| 01:26 | <Ecksley> | gotcha |
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| 01:28 | <Ecksley> | So back to the "echo "plato" > /etc/hostname". There is no rule about what I put in place of "Plato". It can be anything I choose. |
| 01:29 | <chesty> | yes, but you need to edit /etc/hosts and have the appropriate line to match /etc/hostname |
| 01:29 | <marshall> | don't let plato in |
| 01:30 | <marshall> | he'll use ur linode for philosopheez |
| 01:30 | <chesty> | it's explained in a beginners doc in the linode library I believe |
| 01:31 | <Ecksley> | Yes, I've been reading, but you clarified a bunch of stuff. Thanks so much! |
| 01:31 | <Ecksley> | Marshall: If Plato can get my linode working he is welcome to it any time. :) |
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| 01:44 | <spacefinn> | heh, if I open port 22 on my router at home, I get a bunch of failed login attempts from various places around the world |
| 01:44 | <spacefinn> | so far, I haven't gotten a single on my linode |
| 01:45 | <boba> | You'll get some sooner or later |
| 01:45 | <dvgrhl> | spacefinn: what is your ip? :D |
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| 01:46 | <spacefinn> | hah |
| 01:46 | <spacefinn> | I disabled password authentication on the linode, so I'm not that concerned |
| 01:47 | <crazedfred1> | Well pharaun, I got good news :) Now postfix *CAN TALK* to my SASL agent, horrah, it just thinks it's getting the wrong password :/ |
| 01:47 | <crazedfred1> | Oh yeah & bdube wanted to know too heh |
| 01:49 | <crazedfred1> | Unfortunately, there appears to be no debug option that actually shows me given vs expected password, so fixing will be tricky |
| 01:52 | <chesty> | to rock a rhyme that's right on time, it's tricky |
| 01:52 | <pharaun> | crazedfred1: heh |
| 01:52 | <pharaun> | progress \o/ |
| 01:52 | <crazedfred1> | But hey, "wrong password" is a HUGE leap over "no file go to hell" |
| 01:52 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:52 | <crazedfred1> | yeah lol |
| 01:52 | <crazedfred1> | SHUT UP MIKEY |
| 01:53 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 01:53 | <chesty> | STOP SAYING LOL FOR THINGS THAT AREN"T FUNNY |
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| 01:53 | <crazedfred1> | it must be some insiduous campaign against that part of internet slang, specifically |
| 01:53 | <crazedfred1> | I propose all further phrases be typed as l0l instead |
| 01:54 | <crazedfred1> | or upper-case Ls as that looks better |
| 01:54 | <chesty> | sort of, amitz uses col (chuckling out loud) |
| 01:54 | <pharaun> | i propse pipewrench on your skull |
| 01:54 | <crazedfred1> | :) |
| 01:54 | <@mikegrb> | ruflz |
| 01:54 | <chesty> | rofl is also a no no |
| 01:54 | <crazedfred1> | zeroes are the answer to everthing: L0L |
| 01:54 | <pharaun> | chesty: i thought you had a copyright on culz |
| 01:55 | <@psandin> | I thought it was a bot trigger too, I gues chesty is just a super ninja (most of the time) |
| 01:55 | <chesty> | pharaun: I own all rights to col (chortling out loud) |
| 01:55 | <crazedfred1> | first result for "irc lulz bot": http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/56759-the-lulz-boat-sails-on-unscathed |
| 01:55 | <crazedfred1> | I am amused |
| 01:56 | <pharaun> | chesty: :D |
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| 02:06 | <crazedfred1> | So, to business: I am having a problem with postfix rejecting my login as a bad password even though SASL does not. I'm using the standard Perl method to encode my username/password, how can I debug this further? An example of SASL/Postfix: (http://pastebin.com/XzcxMJJU), my postconf/logs: (http://pastebin.com/J0VfLJSc) |
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| 02:18 | <boba> | I have no idea about SASL details but... Are you supposed to base64 encode your entire auth string? |
| 02:18 | <boba> | Ah the docs say so, ok |
| 02:20 | <crazedfred1> | Indeed |
| 02:20 | <crazedfred1> | That's how telnet rolls, evidently |
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| 02:21 | <kenyon> | crazedfred1: do you have /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf ? |
| 02:21 | <crazedfred1> | yes, "pwcheck_method: saslauthd |
| 02:21 | <crazedfred1> | mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN" |
| 02:21 | <crazedfred1> | I followed this guide: http://wiki.debian.org/PostfixAndSASL |
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| 02:24 | <kenyon> | crazedfred1: do you have OPTIONS="-c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd" in /etc/default/saslauthd ? |
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| 02:24 | <crazedfred1> | Currently it is OPTIONS="-c -m /var/run/saslauthd" |
| 02:24 | <kenyon> | that's probably the problem |
| 02:24 | <crazedfred1> | but postfix can talk to SASL... otherwise it'd say general failure I think? |
| 02:25 | <kenyon> | debian postfix runs in a chroot |
| 02:25 | <crazedfred1> | I'll swap out for your line and restart sasl/postfix. Where did you get that line? |
| 02:25 | <kenyon> | it's in the comments of that file |
| 02:25 | <crazedfred1> | so it is... ic |
| 02:27 | <kenyon> | I have this working and it is a pain to set up, lots of little things that are easy to overlook. I have postfix using dovecot sasl on another machine, that's easier I think. |
| 02:27 | <kenyon> | been a while since I set these up though |
| 02:27 | <crazedfred1> | Hmmm, if I didn't have Cryus-SASL already working I'd probably switch :) |
| 02:28 | <crazedfred1> | kenyon: same Authentication failure |
| 02:29 | <crazedfred1> | Same "SASL authentication failure: Password verification failed" error as that pastebin has :( |
| 02:46 | <crazedfred1> | grrr |
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| 04:52 | <AlexC_> | yay for gaining nearly 100MB of memory by changing kernel |
| 04:53 | <dwfreed> | AlexC_: switched from amd64 to i686 kernel? or switched to lastest kernel version? |
| 04:53 | <AlexC_> | dwfreed: switched from latest 2.6 to latest 3.0 |
| 04:53 | <dwfreed> | yeah, that'll do it |
| 04:54 | <AlexC_> | indeed, it's been on my list to do for a while and I finally found a window to schedule the change |
| 04:54 | <dwfreed> | I've been wanting to get a linode again; I need to find a source of income |
| 04:55 | <AlexC_> | dwfreed: do you still have two kidneys? |
| 04:55 | <dwfreed> | I'm not selling a kidney |
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| 04:57 | <dwfreed> | damn, the nearest plasma donation center is 100 miles away |
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| 06:18 | <adoyee_> | hello,every one |
| 06:19 | <adoyee_> | Is any admin here? |
| 06:20 | <Solver> | !ops |
| 06:20 | <linbot> | Users with ops are employees of Linode, and know what they're talking about. The rest of us are the ever-so-helpful(?) community. Official Linode contact information: http://www.linode.com/about/ |
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| 06:28 | <kyhwana> | !ask |
| 06:28 | <linbot> | If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! |
| 06:29 | <kyhwana> | oh |
| 06:29 | <kyhwana> | he left |
| 06:29 | <adoyee_> | he , I'' here |
| 06:30 | <adoyee_> | I lost my credit card servel days ago. |
| 06:30 | <adoyee_> | and will recieve a new one in two weeks. |
| 06:32 | <adoyee_> | OK, I has make a support ticket, is that OK? |
| 06:34 | <kyhwana> | sure |
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| 06:36 | <adoyee_> | thanks. good luck with you. |
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| 06:37 | <kyhwana> | mm, oktoberfest beers |
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| 07:30 | <Bartzy> | Anyone using the facebook api here any having issues right now ? :) |
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| 07:43 | <marius> | OpenVZ is the virtualization platform that's often used for overselling etc, isn't it ? |
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| 07:53 | <AlexC_> | Rtka457Kwsbjh97 |
| 07:53 | <kyhwana> | AlexC_: nice password |
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| 08:09 | <chesty> | looks like a pwgen 15 password |
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| 08:18 | <AlexC_> | well, thankfully I use different credentials for everything ;) |
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| 08:25 | <hawk> | AlexC_: What was that for? |
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| 08:38 | <@heckman> | Ubuntu 11.10 broke the HFS. :( |
| 08:38 | <@heckman> | s/HFS/FHS/ |
| 08:38 | <AlexC_> | how so? |
| 08:38 | <@heckman> | They don't use /var/run any longer, they use /run |
| 08:39 | <@heckman> | Therein breaking the FHS |
| 08:40 | <chesty> | heckman: run has been added to the standard |
| 08:40 | <@heckman> | Seriously? |
| 08:40 | <half_duplex> | Is it normal for apt-get update to be getting amd64 packages considering the Linode I'm on is using a Xeon? Is it just because it's a 64-bit CPU? |
| 08:40 | <@heckman> | half_duplex: AMD is the one who invented that architecture. |
| 08:40 | <@heckman> | half_duplex: So it's called amd64 for that reason. :) |
| 08:41 | <half_duplex> | Okie-dokie then :) |
| 08:41 | <@heckman> | chesty: what version? |
| 08:41 | <chesty> | heckman: a future version |
| 08:41 | <chesty> | but it will be there |
| 08:41 | <@psandin> | trololololed |
| 08:42 | <chesty> | not at all |
| 08:42 | <@heckman> | proof? |
| 08:42 | <@psandin> | for a second there I thought my righteous rage was misplaced |
| 08:42 | <chesty> | google fhs /run |
| 08:42 | <AlexC_> | Debian is also doing the same, even with /tmp -> /run/tmp by the looks |
| 08:42 | <@psandin> | it's dumb, but atlest it's standardized dumb |
| 08:43 | * | psandin shakes a fist |
| 08:43 | <@heckman> | Well, it breaks stuff |
| 08:44 | <chesty> | /var/run is a symlink to /run |
| 08:44 | <chesty> | plus /run was done for a good reason |
| 08:44 | <@heckman> | enlighten me |
| 08:45 | <chesty> | well, /var isn't available early in the boot process, so they put stuff that should have been in /var/run in /dev, now /run is immediately available they can move stuff out of /dev and put it in /run where it belongs |
| 08:46 | <ribasushi> | heckman: it's a cleanup of another shortsighted cleanup of another shortsight |
| 08:46 | <ribasushi> | heckman: mainly to reduce the amount of pivots mounts and other buggery when bootking systems with increasingly userland-dependant core filesystems |
| 08:47 | <ribasushi> | also I can't type |
| 08:47 | <@heckman> | No worries, I suffer from the same affliction. |
| 08:47 | <@psandin> | see and that's why we have standards, so smart people can make smart decisions and the rest of us can follow in their smart footsteps |
| 08:47 | <AlexC_> | http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-March/150031.html |
| 08:47 | <@heckman> | ALso, 11.10 breaking virtual interfaces = FTL |
| 08:49 | <chesty> | https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/476610-a-look-at-the-filesystem-hierarchy-standard-30 |
| 08:49 | <ribasushi> | psandin: smart people are unfortunately more known for making really dumb decisions, but oh well :) |
| 08:49 | <chesty> | heckman: how did they break vi? |
| 08:50 | <@psandin> | ribasushi: so are dumb people, so I'll take my chances |
| 08:50 | <@psandin> | I also have no illusions about which camp I'm in |
| 08:52 | <chesty> | psandin: i'm still confused whether you're one or two people |
| 08:53 | <chesty> | like old married couples share the same email address |
| 08:53 | <chesty> | you can have you're own you know, i say, but no |
| 08:53 | <chesty> | your |
| 08:53 | <Obsidian|server> | your* |
| 08:53 | <chesty> | too slow |
| 08:53 | <Obsidian|server> | late to the draw. bawww. |
| 08:53 | <chesty> | too slow |
| 08:53 | <@psandin> | chesty: really? I wasn't aware I had an evil twin on the loose |
| 08:53 | <Obsidian|server> | that's what I get for flipping between virtual desktops |
| 08:53 | <chesty> | psandin: ps and in |
| 08:54 | <Obsidian|server> | ba-dum pish. |
| 08:54 | <@psandin> | ... |
| 08:54 | <Obsidian|server> | I will hand it to you, the buildup to the punchline was smooth. |
| 08:54 | * | Obsidian|server claps softly |
| 08:56 | <@psandin> | yeah, the set up was great |
| 08:56 | <Obsidian|server> | Hmm, dealing with the integer version of IPs...wonder if I can find a way to compress the db table of tor exit node IPs... |
| 08:56 | <@psandin> | the punchline however left too much desire to punch |
| 08:56 | * | Obsidian|server facedesks - can't edit the table then, makes it harder to update |
| 08:56 | <Obsidian|server> | psandin: use some good gloves then |
| 08:58 | <chesty> | move on already, jokes happen in an instant. there's no after show analysis |
| 08:58 | <Obsidian|server> | but we're trying to act like sports commentators |
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| 09:02 | <@heckman> | chesty: If you use the good-old debian stanza interfaces configuration it will not bring up eth0:0 (psandin found it) |
| 09:02 | <@heckman> | Also was mentioned on the UF as well. |
| 09:04 | <@psandin> | some other dude found it, I just documented it and swore at it a bit |
| 09:04 | <@heckman> | and then raged at me in PM |
| 09:04 | <chesty> | i disagree |
| 09:04 | <@heckman> | Like I was somehow going to coerce the devs in to fixing it. |
| 09:04 | <@psandin> | that was the swaering part |
| 09:04 | <@psandin> | typing is hard, it's late :( |
| 09:04 | <@heckman> | root@clu:~# date |
| 09:04 | <@heckman> | Sat Oct 15 09:04:33 EDT 2011 |
| 09:04 | <@heckman> | orly? |
| 09:05 | * | psandin stabs heckman |
| 09:05 | <@psandin> | sorry folks you'll have to do without |
| 09:05 | <@psandin> | jico: you're on your own, sorry |
| 09:05 | <chesty> | i have the good-old debian stanza for 10.x and my 10.x ip is bound |
| 09:05 | <@psandin> | it's new to 11.10 |
| 09:05 | <@heckman> | 11.10? |
| 09:05 | <chesty> | yes, 11.10 |
| 09:06 | <chesty> | it doesn't show in ifconfig, but it does in ip ad |
| 09:06 | <@psandin> | well that's cute |
| 09:06 | <@heckman> | iusbfoiusbfouasbfouabuyagfuae |
| 09:06 | <@psandin> | I was looking at iconfig |
| 09:06 | * | psandin marches back to the test Linode |
| 09:06 | <Alex-HK> | HI all, i have basic pptpd server that comes with centos, there is no any special settings at pptpd config changed. direct download speed from my fremont's linode is 1200KB/s. after I connect to my linode by pptpd download speed is trerrible less than 80KB/s, I googled for it all this day but still no result... is it problem of centos? someone had this kind of issue? |
| 09:08 | <chesty> | Alex-HK: i believe you're hitting the upload limit impossed by linode |
| 09:08 | <chesty> | oh, it's 50MB |
| 09:08 | <chesty> | sorry |
| 09:08 | <@psandin> | there's no inbound/upload limit |
| 09:08 | <@psandin> | and yeah out is 50MB, so not yet |
| 09:09 | <@psandin> | Alex-HK: Try tokyo? |
| 09:09 | <linbot> | GFW FTL |
| 09:09 | <Alex-HK> | but I just download from the server by pptpd where is upload??? |
| 09:09 | <chesty> | Alex-HK: forget what I said. it's not the issue |
| 09:09 | <Alex-HK> | normal direct download is so great 1200kb/s |
| 09:10 | <Alex-HK> | @psandin: I haven't tried tokyo yet but I would like to know result before to move to there.. |
| 09:11 | <dwfreed> | heckman: ifconfig is actually deprecated in most distros these days, due to the limitation that you can't see more than one IPv4 address per virtual interface; use ip anyway, as it has many more features that ifconfig is missing |
| 09:11 | <Alex-HK> | I do not think it is server equipment problem.. |
| 09:11 | <@heckman> | dwfreed: I'm well aware it's deprecated |
| 09:12 | <chesty> | Alex-HK: there's a few things going on when you tunnel, like mtu get's reduced. you're not blocking icmp are you? |
| 09:12 | <dwfreed> | heckman: old habits die hard? |
| 09:12 | <chesty> | gets |
| 09:12 | <@heckman> | It does not make sense, however, that the virtual interface labeled as eth0:0 would *not* show up in ifconfig |
| 09:12 | <chesty> | where did that ' come from? |
| 09:12 | <@heckman> | Regardless of it being deprecated. That's how the debian-style of configuration is and it makes no sense to change the way ifconfig outputs the information if you are going to keep the interfaces file configuration style the same. |
| 09:13 | <chesty> | it's not a virtual interface, it's a label. and the man page is wrong |
| 09:13 | <@heckman> | Okay, "label". My point still stands. |
| 09:13 | <Obsidian|server> | just someone's brilliant idea |
| 09:14 | <Obsidian|server> | let's irritate the users into not using this tool anymore! |
| 09:14 | <Alex-HK> | chesty: no any icmp blocking on the client side, should mtu get reduced so much to have such a slow dl speed |
| 09:14 | <dwfreed> | labelling is a workaround for ifconfig's limitation, and so is completely pointless anyway |
| 09:15 | <@heckman> | Still the way their config file does it. |
| 09:15 | <@heckman> | If you're going to make the change, please don't be half-baked about it. |
| 09:15 | <chesty> | Alex-HK: eth0 mtu is usually 1500, the tunnel mtu might be 1492 or whatever, so if a 1500 packet comes along, it has to either fragment it, or reject it |
| 09:16 | <dwfreed> | heh, i just used up and down lines in my debian config |
| 09:16 | <chesty> | dwfreed: you don't even have a linode |
| 09:16 | <dwfreed> | chesty: thus past tense |
| 09:17 | <Alex-HK> | thanks chesty: so exactly the difference of the mtu'smakes dl so slow, right? |
| 09:17 | <chesty> | Alex-HK: i don't know if that is the problem in your case |
| 09:18 | <chesty> | pastbin ip ad and tcpdump might help |
| 09:18 | <chesty> | but I'm on my 7th beer |
| 09:18 | <chesty> | going for 9 |
| 09:18 | <Alex-HK> | chesty: but normaly, it should not be so slow right? because it should have a sence to use a tunnel |
| 09:19 | <chesty> | Alex-HK: all i know is mtu problems can be a bitch, i don't know if that's your problem |
| 09:20 | <Alex-HK> | chesty: thanks! at least now I know where start to dig.. |
| 09:22 | <Obsidian|server> | love it when some previously written code of me and SamT's suddenly comes in handy and I can repurpose it. Yay! |
| 09:23 | <Obsidian|server> | heckman: quite so - clean breaks in behavior are best, yeah |
| 09:26 | <Obsidian|server> | hmm, to be sure, the one way you can always tell if it's an IPv6 address is the presence of a :, yeah? |
| 09:26 | <Obsidian|server> | (as opposed to ipv4) |
| 09:27 | <dwfreed> | chesty: friends don't let friends drink and IRC; heckman: /mode +b chesty |
| 09:28 | <dwfreed> | Obsidian|server: yes |
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| 09:28 | <Obsidian|server> | mmkay |
| 09:29 | <Obsidian|server> | thanks dwfreed |
| 09:29 | <dwfreed> | np |
| 09:30 | <@heckman> | pfft, I drink and IRC all the time. |
| 09:30 | <@heckman> | hah |
| 09:30 | <AlexC_> | Obsidian|server: only if you're sure you'll never get a port provided as well |
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| 09:31 | <Obsidian|server> | bah, stupid ipv6 being 128 bits. I don't think I can use numeric ranges for lookups. Ah well - don't think I'll really need that functionality |
| 09:31 | <Obsidian|server> | AlexC_: yep, i'm sure - good point though |
| 09:31 | <@heckman> | Yeah man, those 128-bits are hard to memorize. |
| 09:32 | <dwfreed> | if there is a period in the string before the first colon, it's IPv4; if a colon comes before a period, it's IPv6 |
| 09:32 | <chesty> | culonz |
| 09:32 | <Obsidian|server> | heckman: I mean, you can't flip to normal number ranges and query that against a db using >= <= |
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| 09:32 | <@heckman> | I know. |
| 09:32 | <Obsidian|server> | which makes me sad. |
| 09:34 | <dwfreed> | BigNumber FTW |
| 09:37 | <Obsidian|server> | hmm, wonder if ubuntu 11.10 managed to add support for Hi10P in h.264 videos. |
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| 11:14 | <marius> | r# shutdown -r 0 now |
| 11:14 | <marius> | -bash: /sbin/shutdown: Input/output error |
| 11:14 | <marius> | Tjat cma |
| 11:14 | <marius> | That can't be good |
| 11:14 | <marius> | amirite ? |
| 11:14 | <@heckman> | Why not just type reboot? |
| 11:14 | <@heckman> | Too cool for that? |
| 11:14 | <marius> | Because not all of us install those silly commands |
| 11:14 | <marius> | :P |
| 11:15 | <Obsidian|server> | you could always rm the power cord |
| 11:15 | <@heckman> | hah |
| 11:15 | <marius> | yeah, I suspect I'll have to do that |
| 11:15 | <Obsidian|server> | that's supposed to shut systems down |
| 11:15 | <marius> | It just happened randomly, the system had 11GB free memory and everything so I don'tk now why thath appened |
| 11:15 | <marius> | Every command I try gets the input/output error or segfault |
| 11:16 | <Obsidian|server> | sounds like filesystem or memory failure |
| 11:16 | <@heckman> | memtest86+ that badboy after you reboot it |
| 11:16 | <EugeneKay> | I'm gonna say it's somethign to do wiht your spellign |
| 11:16 | <@heckman> | orly? |
| 11:17 | <EugeneKay> | Probably not, but it couldn't hurt to get it fixed. |
| 11:20 | <marius> | haha |
| 11:33 | <jaskal> | is there a sandbox for the linode api, does anyone know? |
| 11:33 | <@caker> | there is not |
| 11:34 | <jaskal> | i see, thanks... |
| 11:39 | <AlexC_> | I love it when clients send over designs for their websites, at 300DPI |
| 11:40 | <rnowak> | print it yo |
| 11:40 | <jaskal> | AlexC_: i often get screenshots of what they want, pasted into a word doc, that is then attached to the email... |
| 11:40 | <jaskal> | why not just attach the screenshot directly? |
| 11:40 | <AlexC_> | jaskal: hah :P |
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| 12:19 | <bdube> | that's twice now molly-guard on my linode hasn't asked me to verify a reboot |
| 12:19 | <AlexC_> | are you sure? |
| 12:20 | <Fieldy> | i guess you need to ask yourself before selecting it then, that's the verify ;) |
| 12:20 | <Fieldy> | this ain't windows |
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| 12:20 | <bdube> | AlexC_: yes, I'm sure |
| 12:20 | <AlexC_> | bdube: :P |
| 12:21 | <@heckman> | bdube: are you sure? |
| 12:21 | <rnowak> | are YOU sure, heckman? |
| 12:21 | <@heckman> | ye |
| 12:21 | <rnowak> | just checking |
| 12:22 | <bdube> | Fieldy: I wanted to reboot. I'm well aware this ain't windows, I don't run Windows |
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| 12:28 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Error with postfix + dovecot... in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7920>; |
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| 12:49 | <SleePy> | Windows makes me so mad! |
| 12:50 | <SleePy> | Install windows updates, restart. iTunes update pops up, restart again. More windows updates, more restarts.. :( |
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| 12:51 | <@heckman> | SleePy: at least it doens't have "Unity" |
| 12:51 | <dwfreed> | or Gnome3 |
| 12:51 | <dwfreed> | or upstart |
| 12:52 | <Fieldy> | heh |
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| 12:53 | <SleePy> | heckman, I think I would take unity over restarting for every update |
| 12:53 | <@heckman> | You've never used Unity. |
| 12:53 | <@heckman> | Ask rnowak what he thinks about Unity. :p |
| 12:54 | <rnowak> | ha ha. ha. ha. |
| 12:54 | <SleePy> | I seen unity once.. I hate it. I was like where did all my stuff go :P |
| 12:54 | <rnowak> | unity4life man, fucking fantastic |
| 12:54 | <AviMarcus> | Since I don't know any other tech-irc channel to ask in.. does anyone have a music player that syncs playlists from linux (debian/ubuntu/mint) to an android device? I got music syncing, but not the actual playlists. |
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| 12:55 | <rnowak> | fancy pants playlists |
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| 12:59 | <Obsidian|server> | heckman: mint 11, gnome sans unity. |
| 12:59 | <@heckman> | I heard there is a sweet function in Gnome Shell to allow you to flip it to classic mode or something. |
| 12:59 | <@heckman> | Maybe I misread or something. |
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| 12:59 | <Obsidian|server> | iirc it was removed as of 11.10 |
| 13:00 | <Obsidian|server> | I'm not sure though |
| 13:00 | <@heckman> | No no, not the log in setting |
| 13:00 | <@heckman> | I mean an actual setting in Gnome Shell (Aka Gnome 3.0) |
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| 13:00 | <rnowak> | let's do this, installing gnome 3 *brace brace brace* |
| 13:01 | <Obsidian|server> | are you saying that there's a way to not have gnome3 neuter every option in existence and not be a totalitarian WM? |
| 13:01 | <Obsidian|server> | This...this doesn't seem real |
| 13:01 | * | Obsidian|server pinches self |
| 13:02 | <@heckman> | I'm saying there may be |
| 13:02 | <@heckman> | I don't remember |
| 13:02 | <rnowak> | it is pulling in hamster-applet, I don't even |
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| 13:03 | <marius> | memtest taim :3 |
| 13:04 | <@heckman> | wat |
| 13:04 | <marius> | although I am keeping a finger on HDD as it wouldn't boot up and the raid controller had issues finding disks |
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| 13:04 | <rnowak> | you're jelly of my hamster-applet heckman |
| 13:05 | <@heckman> | nop |
| 13:05 | <rnowak> | itym very much so |
| 13:16 | <AviMarcus> | so.. any ideas about the playlist syncing? |
| 13:18 | <AviMarcus> | googling around only seems to find other people with the same issue but no solution. I can't believe I'm the only person on a droid that wants a unified music/playlist.. |
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| 13:22 | <ermal> | hi there |
| 13:23 | <ermal> | I need some help to suspend my server asap, or just block it so no one can access the server |
| 13:23 | <ermal> | can someone guide me to do this? |
| 13:24 | <AlexC_> | ermal: you could either block the traffic, or simply remove the IP address and access only via Lish |
| 13:24 | <dominikh1> | (or shut it down) |
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| 13:26 | <ermal> | ok I have an sys admin that handled the server and he got fired this friday, I need to make sure that he has no access |
| 13:27 | <ermal> | he might contact you guys and start the server again, I need to find out a way to restrict anyone from accessing the server |
| 13:27 | <AlexC_> | ermal: no one here can start the server; only those who have access to your account |
| 13:28 | <AlexC_> | ermal: the only true way to ensure he does not have access to the server is to rebuild it. A sysadmin that got fired could for example have easily configured many "backdoors" for him to access |
| 13:29 | <AviMarcus> | ok again offtopic.. if I have an ebook I want to sell... but enable people to order real copies of it, who does 1-off printing + ordering website for the lowest cost? lulu.com? amazon has something? |
| 13:29 | <Ethelim> | you're going to have to change your linode password, the passwords to all services running on that box (e.g. FTP, SQL, wordpress? jira etc.). You'd be well off having a replacement admin at hand who can go through it all without missing anything |
| 13:29 | <ermal> | ok, so should I change the linode password for now and shut down the server? |
| 13:30 | <Ethelim> | that's the only temporarily safe method |
| 13:30 | <AlexC_> | ermal: you should have a policy in place within your company to be changing passwords anyway upon someones dismissal |
| 13:31 | <ermal> | right, we are a very small company and we never thought we'll get to this place. |
| 13:31 | <Ethelim> | size doesn't matter here :P |
| 13:31 | <ermal> | so if I shut down the server, he wont be able to start it without going through linode's admin page correct |
| 13:31 | <ermal> | ? |
| 13:31 | <AlexC_> | ermal: if shutting down your server isn't going to impact your business, then sure, you could do just that until you draw up a plan. But 100% start by changing your Linode account password |
| 13:31 | <AlexC_> | ermal: correct |
| 13:32 | <ermal> | ok great! Thanks so much guys! |
| 13:32 | <AlexC_> | well, technically other ways (API and such) but you'd still need to authenticate |
| 13:33 | <AlexC_> | I always thought it was strange that the company I previous left had me remove my own access, since I was one of the sysadmins ... not sure of the logic behind that |
| 13:33 | <Ethelim> | as long as he doesn't get into the linode account(s) anymore, he won't be able to restart them with whatever other passwords he may have. You should email Linode and notify them of the eventuality that they may get contacted by someone other than you, and that they shouldn't deal with the person |
| 13:34 | <Ethelim> | Also - if he setup your email account, make sure he can't impersonate you by logging into your email account |
| 13:34 | <Ethelim> | that's assuming your email doesn't run off of your linode |
| 13:34 | <AlexC_> | and access to DNS ... oh the fun that could be had |
| 13:35 | <Ethelim> | oh yea your domain registrar account |
| 13:35 | <AlexC_> | ermal: few more points to read up on ^^ |
| 13:35 | <ermal> | Yeah, i hear you, he got fired on thursday due to a sexual harassment and he started threatening to delete all the files |
| 13:36 | <AlexC_> | we don't need to know the details :) |
| 13:36 | <Ethelim> | I understand your frustration |
| 13:37 | <ermal> | I appreciate for these great tips, we use gmail and him and I are both admins, but I changed the linode account to an email address that is not under our domain |
| 13:37 | <AlexC_> | ermal: remove his account and add it back as an alias to your user |
| 13:38 | <Ethelim> | for future reference, best be prepared with a kill-access policy in place so when you fire someone, all necessary steps are taken. That way someone you had a falling out with can't hold company assets hostage. At least not via the IT infrastructure |
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| 13:39 | <ermal> | yes, I just did that! Thanks so much guys! |
| 13:39 | <Ethelim> | That also requires that you keep track of everything and anything with a username and password. |
| 13:39 | <AlexC_> | and not just for fire, for those that leave on their own accord |
| 13:39 | <ermal> | I am downloading all the files from the ftp before i shut it down and get someone else to do deal with the server |
| 13:40 | <AlexC_> | and then review your use of FTP :P |
| 13:40 | <ermal> | do you guys know a quick way to take a backup my databases? they are small but I just want to have a copy just in case |
| 13:40 | <AlexC_> | ermal: database of what? |
| 13:40 | <Ethelim> | also check out lastpass, that thing has a useful setting where you share account access with people without them knowing the passwords (works only for websites without them seeing the pw) - that allows instant pulling of email access though if you stick to web based email access |
| 13:41 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: that feature of Lastpass is not secure |
| 13:41 | <Ethelim> | Are you using the linode backup service |
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| 13:42 | <ermal> | Ethelim, yeah thats all taken care of... |
| 13:42 | <Ethelim> | Alex: does it decrypt it client-side? |
| 13:42 | <ermal> | yes, I am using linode backup service, how do I make sure he cant access that? |
| 13:43 | <Ethelim> | via your linode password - change it, and try logging in with the old one to make sure you changed the right password |
| 13:43 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: well of course, it has to. Say you have just shared the password for "example.com" to me, all I need to do is edit /etc/hosts to point example.com to localhost, setup a similar form and log the values that got submitted. I could also intercept the JS and see the value |
| 13:43 | <AlexC_> | it's a very deceptive feature of Lastpass and it really should never have been implemented |
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| 13:44 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 13:44 | <Ethelim> | Alex: good point, I should stop recommending that lol |
| 13:47 | <Ethelim> | something else, can anyone recommend a good resource re troubleshooting cron jobs? I'm looking at a cronjob via crontab -L that looks setup correctly, and it just doesn't execute. About to go mad here. |
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| 13:47 | <dwfreed> | Ethelim: what's the crontab line? |
| 13:48 | <Ethelim> | 0 * * * * /usr/bin/php -q /srv/www/domain.com/public_html/blah/thingtoexecute.php |
| 13:48 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: check the mail for the user it is running as |
| 13:49 | <AlexC_> | and '-q'? |
| 13:49 | <Ethelim> | I am. It's not mailing me |
| 13:49 | <Ethelim> | no errors anyway |
| 13:49 | <Ethelim> | to avoid that it sends mail every time it tries to execute |
| 13:49 | <dwfreed> | Ethelim: what are you using for a cron daemon? |
| 13:50 | <Ethelim> | no clue whatsoever (I have a hunch that's where the problem lies) |
| 13:50 | <AviMarcus> | AlexC_, huh. that hardly sounds secure. Did you ask them about it? |
| 13:50 | <dwfreed> | Ethelim: okay, what distro? |
| 13:50 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: what happens when you run the command manually? And -q is for CGI only ... you're running CLI |
| 13:50 | <Ethelim> | Ubuntu |
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| 13:51 | <Ethelim> | ok, let me remove that q |
| 13:51 | <AlexC_> | AviMarcus: they're well aware, but like to continue to use it |
| 13:51 | <Ethelim> | got that off some guide |
| 13:51 | <AlexC_> | most guides about PHP are created by those who have < 1 month PHP experiance, and thus are crap |
| 13:53 | <rnowak> | just eval it bro, amirite |
| 13:53 | <AlexC_> | you are right! |
| 13:53 | <dwfreed> | Ethelim: remove the -q, change the 0 to */1, and change the script to something that just says "Hello world" or something, and check the mail for the user it runs as for mail in 2 minutes |
| 13:53 | <AlexC_> | <?php eval($_POST['foo']); ?> ... it's how you get other people to code your project for you |
| 13:54 | <ermal> | one more question guys, is there a way to shut down the dns for the email or once the server is shut down the dns's are off as well? |
| 13:55 | <hawk> | Only if that server is the (only) dns server for whatever domains are involved |
| 13:56 | <AlexC_> | ermal: just remove access to where ever you configure the DNS zones |
| 13:56 | <Ethelim> | chances are that if you can shut down the server without interrupting anything else your DNS might be with the registrar where you /your admin registered the domain, so he could redirect your domain by logging into that and changing the records |
| 13:56 | <AlexC_> | and access to the domain registrar (if he has access to that, he can change nameservers) |
| 13:57 | <ermal> | My DNS is hosted on Linode, DNS Manager |
| 13:57 | <Ethelim> | where did you register your domain name(s)? |
| 13:57 | <ermal> | godaddy.. |
| 13:57 | <AlexC_> | ermal: ok, so if you changed the password for that then he can not alter the DNS records. Now go and remove access to the registrar so he can't change the nameservers used |
| 13:57 | <ermal> | ok perfect! |
| 13:58 | <Ethelim> | (means change your go daddy passwords) |
| 13:59 | <ermal> | right, thanks so much guys, he never had access to my godaddy account |
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| 14:00 | <AlexC_> | that you're aware of :) |
| 14:00 | <@heckman> | That reminds me I want to transfer my domain to Name.com |
| 14:01 | <AlexC_> | he configured your emails afterall, very easy to get into your GoDaddy account with access to your email account |
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| 14:02 | <Ethelim> | while you're at it, make sure he's not hiding in your fridge, stealing your beers (freddie wong style) |
| 14:02 | <AlexC_> | heckman: mmm they are quite cheap as well |
| 14:04 | <@heckman> | I just wanna get my stuff off of GF |
| 14:04 | <@heckman> | s/GF/GD/ |
| 14:04 | <Ethelim> | Do I need to manually start that cron daemon? I naively assumed creating a crontab file would be sufficient |
| 14:05 | <dwfreed> | heckman: namecheap.com is pretty cheap too, as well as one through google apps |
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| 14:05 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: crons already doing things you're probably even unaware of, so it's already started |
| 14:05 | <Ethelim> | using name cheap myself, so far no complaints |
| 14:05 | <@heckman> | Namecheap, afaik, still requires a support ticket for v6 glues |
| 14:05 | <dwfreed> | Ethelim: 'sudo service cron start' will complain if it's already started, so it won't hurt |
| 14:05 | <Ethelim> | crontab -L only shows the two lines I added myself though |
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| 14:06 | <Ethelim> | it's running already |
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| 14:06 | <@heckman> | Ethelim: there's other jobs that are probable scheduled elsehwere in /etc/cron.* |
| 14:06 | <Ethelim> | ah |
| 14:07 | <dwfreed> | heckman: so just use Linode for dns |
| 14:07 | <@heckman> | I'm not talking about DNS, I'm talking about setting the actual authoritative name servers. |
| 14:08 | <@heckman> | Well, kind of DNS. Not the actual hosting of it. |
| 14:08 | <ermal> | AlexC and Ethelim, thank you so much for all your help, I have to get out of here now. Thanks a lot! |
| 14:08 | <AlexC_> | ermal: change the locks as well! |
| 14:08 | <ermal> | hahaha, I will :) |
| 14:09 | <ermal> | thanks guys |
| 14:09 | <AlexC_> | enjoy |
| 14:09 | <Ethelim> | ok when I manually try to execute that php via the command line I entered into the crontab I get a couple of errors. one complains about "comments starting with # are deprecated in /etc7Php5/cli/conf.d/mcrypt.ini" and the second one complains about the absence of a log directory at the location of the file I'm trying to have it execute |
| 14:09 | <Ethelim> | good luck ermal |
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| 14:09 | <@heckman> | First is a warning, second seems like it needs to be fixed. |
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| 14:10 | <Ethelim> | I don't see that error when I run the php via browser |
| 14:10 | <Ethelim> | and I have error messages enabled on that server |
| 14:10 | <Ethelim> | php ones that is |
| 14:10 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: CLI, CGI and mod_php SAPIs have different configuration, hence the /etc/php/{cli,cgi,apache} |
| 14:11 | <@heckman> | Ugh, I knew I forgot to get something on my way home... |
| 14:11 | <Ethelim> | your kid? :o |
| 14:11 | <AlexC_> | (assuming default Ubuntu packages here) |
| 14:11 | <Ethelim> | I am using the default Ubtu 10.4 LTE (or some such) package |
| 14:11 | <@heckman> | s/LTE/LTS/ |
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| 14:11 | <AlexC_> | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ... let's not make up our own distros :P |
| 14:12 | <Ethelim> | haha |
| 14:12 | <Ethelim> | hey it's been a year since I set that up, and only ever been updating it since, and barely touched any internal workings, which I know, shows. haha |
| 14:12 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: for your first deprecated warning, `sed -i 's/^#/;/' /etc/php5/cli/conf.d/mcrypt.ini` should fix it up |
| 14:13 | <Ethelim> | I'm not going to have a fridge delivered when I use that command am I |
| 14:13 | <AlexC_> | yes |
| 14:13 | <Ethelim> | dayum |
| 14:15 | <Ethelim> | yea, the # error is gone, thanks |
| 14:16 | <Ethelim> | is there a way to keep it from trying to log that crontab php execution? |
| 14:16 | <Ethelim> | sorry - brb phone |
| 14:17 | <AlexC_> | cron by default will email any output to the user it's running as. Is that what you mean by log? |
| 14:18 | <AlexC_> | if not, pastebin the output of the script |
| 14:25 | <SleePy> | "You have to download a total of 325 M. This download will take about 2 minutes with your connection. " <-- I wish my home connection was that fast |
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| 14:26 | <AlexC_> | that would take almost 10x that here =( |
| 14:27 | <@heckman> | SleePy: that's only 21.67 Mb/s |
| 14:27 | <@heckman> | My home internet is 3x as fast as that |
| 14:27 | <Ethelim> | http://pastebin.com/bJJ5t4qj |
| 14:27 | <AlexC_> | and I bet it's cheaper than my connection! |
| 14:28 | <SleePy> | heckman, Thats about 310% faster than my connection :P |
| 14:28 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: mmhmm, so the script needs fixing or you're going to have to do something ugly like 'cd' to the directory of the script first, and then run php |
| 14:28 | <SleePy> | Not that I checked :D |
| 14:29 | <Ethelim> | the script as in the php itself? |
| 14:29 | <Ethelim> | or the crontab call? |
| 14:29 | <AlexC_> | the pwd of the php file |
| 14:29 | <Ethelim> | pwd as in password? |
| 14:29 | <@heckman> | working directory |
| 14:29 | <Obsidian|server> | pwd as in print working directory |
| 14:29 | <SleePy> | ^^ |
| 14:29 | <Ethelim> | ah |
| 14:30 | <AlexC_> | as in /srv/www/domain.com/public_html/blah/ |
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| 14:31 | <Obsidian|server> | you could also modify your script to use __DIR__ or dirname(__FILE__) for setting the location of the log directory |
| 14:31 | <Obsidian|server> | those will resolve the absolute path of the script, then you just specify the path to the log dir from there |
| 14:31 | <Ethelim> | are you saying I should move the php to /usr/root and adjust the path inside the php accordingly? Or is this about directory perms of the "blah" subdir? |
| 14:32 | <Obsidian|server> | (it's a better idea in the end for portable code) |
| 14:32 | <Obsidian|server> | don't need to |
| 14:32 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: no, you would either A) change cronjob to 'cd foobar && php ...' (ugly) B) Create a wrapper script C) Modify the PHP |
| 14:33 | <Obsidian|server> | modify the paths in the php to use __DIR__ (if you use php 5.3) at the beginning of the path |
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| 14:33 | <Obsidian|server> | e.g. file_get_contents(__DIR__ . '/logs/logfile.txt') |
| 14:33 | <Ethelim> | I'm not sure why it's trying to log anything at all, the php has no output, and if it does I would only want it emailed to the MAILTO= addy in the crontab (but that doesn't seem to work either) |
| 14:34 | <Obsidian|server> | Ah, so it's crontab complaining? |
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| 14:34 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: that's the PHP script doing that |
| 14:34 | <Ethelim> | that log dir error I get when I try to execute the command I have in the cron file (without the scheduler bits) |
| 14:35 | <AlexC_> | yes that's the PHP trying to open the 'logs' directory |
| 14:35 | <Ethelim> | ohhh I think I follow |
| 14:35 | <Ethelim> | right, I get it now - let me mod the php |
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| 14:43 | <Ethelim> | ok it executes correctly by manual execution of the crontab line now. Only thing left is the question of why doesn't crontab email me even though I have the line MAILTO=blah@domain.com in there. Does the MAILTO need its line to start with a pound sign as well? |
| 14:44 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: what happens if you remove the MAILTO all together, do you get an email to the user that is running the cronjob? |
| 14:45 | <Ethelim> | I'm not sure if I set that up correctly, an email for the root user that is |
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| 14:46 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: it should be automagic. Try it and look in /var/mail |
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| 14:46 | <Ethelim> | do mails show up has files in there? |
| 14:47 | <Ethelim> | waiting for the */1 * * * * printf hello world entry to execute |
| 14:47 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: maybe the 'mail' command will be easier, or mutt :) |
| 14:49 | <Ethelim> | /var/mail is empty still |
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| 14:53 | <Ethelim> | and neither mutt nor mail work from the command line (not found) |
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| 14:54 | <@heckman> | I think this'll fix that: http://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-10.04-lucid |
| 14:54 | <@heckman> | (mail anyway) |
| 14:56 | <Ethelim> | thanks |
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| 15:06 | <pjbrunet> | !pi |
| 15:06 | <linbot> | pjbrunet: Point (0.89272100, 0.69608571) falls outside of the unit circle. Hits: 108321 of 137516 (π ≈ 3.150789726286396 - 0.009197072696603). http://π.hoopycat.com/ |
| 15:07 | <pjbrunet> | Maybe I should go "outside" in real life. |
| 15:08 | <pjbrunet> | Why isn't the estimation closer to 3.14... algorithm issue? |
| 15:08 | <rnowak> | not enough sample points |
| 15:08 | <pjbrunet> | 108k or 137k, really? |
| 15:09 | <rnowak> | really |
| 15:09 | <pjbrunet> | But i was just outside the circle, shouldn't it be below 3.14 now? |
| 15:09 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 15:09 | <pjbrunet> | LOL |
| 15:09 | <pjbrunet> | I'm tellin ya that thing is jacked up. |
| 15:09 | <pjbrunet> | :p |
| 15:09 | <rnowak> | Considering your previous comment, you have no idea how it works. |
| 15:10 | <pjbrunet> | I know how it works. It's just a ratio dude. |
| 15:10 | <rnowak> | Sure thing brah. |
| 15:10 | <pjbrunet> | I wrote those things in high school. |
| 15:11 | <Ethelim> | Ok mail is working. And trying to test crontab - should be mailing me once a minute now |
| 15:12 | <Ethelim> | just to make sure */1 * * * * should execute every minute of every day of every etc. right? |
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| 15:14 | <rnowak> | Ethelim: yep |
| 15:14 | <rnowak> | */1 is same as * |
| 15:15 | <bdube> | yeah, a step of one is not necessary to specify |
| 15:15 | <pjbrunet> | Maybe the random number generator is busted ;-) |
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| 15:17 | <Ethelim> | ok, the command works from the command line (emailing myself), but doesn't execute in the crontab |
| 15:17 | <Ethelim> | seems to be something belly up with cron |
| 15:18 | <Ethelim> | actually.. hold on I think I may have inadvertently commented out my cron jobs -_- |
| 15:18 | <Ethelim> | # |
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| 15:20 | <Ethelim> | Which it turns out, I did. Jesus. |
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| 15:22 | <nviror> | How to dump all mysql databases from lish ssh? |
| 15:23 | <rnowak> | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysqldump.html make sure to select the correct version on the left |
| 15:24 | <Ethelim> | thanks a bunch for the help AlexC_ and heckman, it's working finally |
| 15:24 | <pjbrunet> | OK it takes a million dart throws to get Pi accuracy to %0.07297743032259% |
| 15:24 | <rnowak> | What if you're really bad with throwing darts? |
| 15:24 | <pjbrunet> | So pretty I think Monte Carlo is a moron. |
| 15:24 | <@mikegrb> | lulz |
| 15:24 | <pjbrunet> | LOL |
| 15:25 | <pjbrunet> | pretty much i mean |
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| 15:25 | <nviror> | rnowak, I knew it, but it doesn't work in Finnix |
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| 15:26 | <pjbrunet> | If your dart throwing is bad, don't hang a dart board in your apartment ;-) |
| 15:26 | <pjbrunet> | Or house. |
| 15:27 | <pjbrunet> | Anyway, I'm out of here, but I found this... http://www.tinafad.com/pi.php |
| 15:27 | <pjbrunet> | Try "Auto run, Fast" |
| 15:27 | <nviror> | heckman, Allow me to switch on the server, it will ease out my tasks. |
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| 15:28 | <rnowak> | mmmm pie |
| 15:31 | <AlexC_> | Ethelim: oh man :P |
| 15:31 | <@heckman> | nviror: I'm not sure #linode is the best place to be discussing this. Also, I'm not currently in the office. |
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| 15:43 | <nviror> | Possible to backup databases in Finnix? |
| 15:43 | <AlexC_> | nviror: how do you mean? |
| 15:44 | <nviror> | AlexC_, I want to backup/dump all mysql databases, unable to run mysqldump |
| 15:44 | <AviMarcus> | nviror, lish only lets you do what you can do in your normal console |
| 15:44 | <AlexC_> | nviror: you would have to mount the partition and copy the MySQL data files in /var/lib/mysql |
| 15:45 | <AviMarcus> | well, what I said isn't exactly true, but regarding *sql it basically is. |
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| 15:45 | <nviror> | AlexC_, Thanks. |
| 15:46 | <nviror> | AviMarcus, I'm not talking about Lish here, Its finnix or rescue mode. |
| 15:47 | <AviMarcus> | oh thought you asked about lish. sorry. |
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| 16:04 | <nviror> | AlexC_, I can download files from Finnix into my HD after starting sshd but how to wget/transfer files to another server? |
| 16:06 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 16:06 | <AlexC_> | nviror: scp /path/to/file user@remote.host:~/cake/ |
| 16:09 | <nviror> | Thanks |
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| 16:15 | <jimmyjack> | hello… |
| 16:16 | <jimmyjack> | I've looked at a few articles and cannot seem to get a subdomain working quite the way I expect it |
| 16:17 | <bdube> | jimmyjack: a subdomain for HTTP purposes? |
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| 16:17 | <jimmyjack> | yes |
| 16:18 | <bdube> | what are you trying to achieve and what is happening instead? |
| 16:18 | <jimmyjack> | right now, the subdomain works, but is pointing the user to my main domain |
| 16:18 | <jimmyjack> | when I log in to linode via ftp, I also do not see a folder for my subdomain, in order to add content to it |
| 16:18 | <bdube> | blech |
| 16:19 | <bdube> | !ftp |
| 16:19 | <linbot> | Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp |
| 16:19 | <jimmyjack> | understood, sftp is better |
| 16:19 | <jimmyjack> | my ftp client supports that |
| 16:19 | <jimmyjack> | i just dont know specifically how to set that up |
| 16:19 | <bdube> | and you're using it? |
| 16:19 | <bdube> | ok, work on that soon |
| 16:19 | <jimmyjack> | over ssh… im a visual person, havent really dipped into ssh |
| 16:19 | <jimmyjack> | anyway… um |
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| 16:19 | <jimmyjack> | will bookmark the link |
| 16:20 | <rnowak> | You are likely to have sftp already running as a subsystem of your sshd |
| 16:20 | <jimmyjack> | so, I googled and saw that I needed to add an aname |
| 16:20 | <AlexC_> | jimmyjack: http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid for example (there are guides for other distros/versions too) |
| 16:20 | <rnowak> | use a sftp client, and connect to your server over port 22, log in with same details as for ssh |
| 16:21 | <bdube> | jimmyjack: A record or CNAME |
| 16:21 | <jimmyjack> | the instructions in the linode library article said A record |
| 16:21 | <bdube> | jimmyjack: unless you're using some sort of control panel, creating the subdomain will not create a subfolder for content anywhere |
| 16:21 | <jimmyjack> | http://library.linode.com/dns-guides/introduction-to-dns#sph_configuring-subdomains |
| 16:21 | <AlexC_> | yes you'll want an A record, not CNAME |
| 16:21 | <jimmyjack> | oh |
| 16:22 | <jimmyjack> | so how do I create the subfolder for content? |
| 16:22 | <bdube> | with your tool of choice |
| 16:22 | <jimmyjack> | and is there anything else I need to do to make sure that the subfolder is where people are pointed to |
| 16:22 | <jimmyjack> | when they enter sub.domain.com? |
| 16:22 | <AlexC_> | jimmyjack: read my link |
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| 16:22 | <jimmyjack> | n it |
| 16:22 | <jimmyjack> | on it |
| 16:23 | <jimmyjack> | oh my |
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| 16:24 | <jimmyjack> | so (bdude or AlexC) I have to set up a whole newlamp server in order to get a new folder? |
| 16:24 | <AlexC_> | no |
| 16:25 | <jimmyjack> | um, thank god, haha |
| 16:25 | <AlexC_> | Apache supports VirtualHosts, each of your domains (or subdomains) will have a different VirtualHost configuration |
| 16:26 | <AlexC_> | for example, it'll be common on Debian/Ubuntu to have /etc/apache2/sites-available/example.com, /etc/apache2/sites-available/foobar.example.com etc etc etc |
| 16:27 | <jimmyjack> | hm |
| 16:28 | <AlexC_> | take more than 2 minutes to read the Linode Library link, read it a few times to understand what is required |
| 16:28 | <jimmyjack> | ok |
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| 16:35 | <AndrewS> | Hey |
| 16:43 | <Obsidian|server> | That linbot is a spy. |
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| 17:11 | <SleePy> | Ok? Dovecot keeps crashing, not logging in any dovecot* log files.. No other log files has info.. I'm stumped :P |
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| 17:26 | <jimmyjack> | AlexC, I have been trying to see if my developer friend setup a control panel like VirtualMin/Webmin . |
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| 17:27 | <jimmyjack> | i think he did |
| 17:28 | <jimmyjack> | so I dont know if anyone is still there, but |
| 17:28 | <jimmyjack> | I am having a subdomain problem |
| 17:28 | <jimmyjack> | I cleared my major problem |
| 17:29 | <jimmyjack> | I now have a small one... for some reason, http://www.subdom.domain.com works, but not http://subdom.domain.com |
| 17:29 | <jimmyjack> | so for some reason my subdomain will only work if I have a www in front of it |
| 17:29 | <jimmyjack> | ? |
| 17:30 | <jimmyjack> | if anyone out there has an idea let me know, thanks for the help so far though guys |
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| 17:40 | <kenyon> | jimmyjack: subdom.domain.com needs an aaaa record |
| 17:40 | <MJCS> | for ipv6 |
| 17:50 | <jimmyjack> | thanks |
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| 17:50 | <jimmyjack> | I kept searching online, someone suggested adding a cname as well |
| 17:50 | <jimmyjack> | did this 2 minutes ago |
| 17:50 | <jimmyjack> | andit finally worked |
| 17:50 | <jimmyjack> | thanks guys |
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| 18:32 | <linbot> | New news from forums: SYN Cookies are not helping me against very basic SYN Floods in Linux Networking <http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=7911>; |
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| 19:19 | <Hydroxide> | wow, that was impressive - I just generated a 4096-bit RSA OpenSSL key in my linode and it went really fast. Does linode have a mechanism for distributing entropy to the VPSes? |
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| 19:30 | <andrew> | what is the most popular website hosted by linode? |
| 19:30 | <SleePy> | linode.com |
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| 19:31 | <andrew> | i predicted that response SleePy, of course aside from linode.com |
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| 19:32 | <Daevien> | what does it really matter? there are regulars in here with dozens of nodes |
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| 19:34 | <andrew> | Daevien just curious that is all, it would be interesting to know |
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| 19:49 | <SleePy> | Finally.. Fixed dovecot.. Now to fix postfix so I can send mail :P |
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| 20:07 | <jonny5> | Please state the nature of the medical emergency. |
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| 20:07 | <pharaun> | ? |
| 20:07 | <jonny5> | Sorry I thought this was sick bay |
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| 20:07 | <jonny5> | Always get confused |
| 20:07 | <pharaun> | how is this even remotely alike the sick bay |
| 20:11 | <andrew> | jonny5 ? |
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| 21:23 | <SleePy> | Finally, fixed postfix as well. Hopefully that was the last bug |
| 21:26 | <chesty> | you realise there is now at least one more bug |
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| 21:39 | <Obsidian|server> | they reproduce, man |
| 21:39 | <Obsidian|server> | the bugs |
| 21:39 | <Obsidian|server> | they /reproduce/ |
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| 21:44 | <SleePy> | Need bug spray :D |
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| 21:48 | <rnowak> | amitz: SleePy needs you to open your mouth |
| 21:51 | <SleePy> | At least the upgrade was worth while. Jumped to the latest 3.0 kernel and finally added the 5 extra gb of storage linode gave us months ago :P |
| 22:07 | <chesty> | can you suppress soft service notifications in nagios/icinga |
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| 22:12 | <iggy> | I still need to add my disk space :/ |
| 22:14 | <chesty> | oh, the offer is over iggy, if you haven't added it by now, you've lost it |
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| 22:23 | <@heckman> | chesty: y u trollin? |
| 22:24 | <@heckman> | http://goo.gl/jJ791 |
| 22:24 | <chesty> | heckman: i need the money |
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| 22:38 | <heidi> | array: hey you |
| 22:39 | <heidi> | i am picking you up at 8:30 am and need a phone number to let you know i am there |
| 22:39 | <heidi> | pm me with the number/extension. thanks love |
| 22:40 | <kyhwana> | O.o |
| 22:42 | <chesty> | or you could, you know, knock. the cell phone is the new door bell |
| 22:42 | <heidi> | chesty: he is at a hotel and i dont know the room number |
| 22:42 | <heidi> | plus would have to get out of the car and get the baby out, etc |
| 22:43 | <heidi> | my hubby was no help in getting me the info even though i have asked 3 or 4 times |
| 22:43 | <heidi> | and he isn't home, i am picking him up after i get array |
| 22:43 | <chesty> | hubbies are like that |
| 22:45 | <heidi> | yup |
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| 22:53 | <JoeK> | is there any chance of linode making an android app? |
| 22:53 | <kyhwana> | JoeK: there are a few unofficial ones already |
| 22:54 | <JoeK> | was hoping for an official one |
| 22:54 | <kyhwana> | How would it be any better than the non-official one? It uses the API |
| 22:54 | <chesty> | the better question to ask is, is there a change of linode making the api open |
| 22:55 | <chesty> | there are secret api calls, ala microsoft, apple and other scumbags |
| 22:55 | <JoeK> | kyhwana: im an untrusworthty person :) |
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| 23:02 | <chesty> | JoeK: did you mean untrusting? because being untrustworthy is a little different |
| 23:02 | <JoeK> | oh, yeah |
| 23:02 | <JoeK> | been a long day :P |
| 23:03 | <chesty> | you have shifty eyes |
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| 23:04 | <chesty> | This message requires an OFTC Gold Account to read |
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| 23:12 | <JoeK> | chesty: heh |
| 23:12 | <JoeK> | oftc gold account? ;) |
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| 23:12 | <chesty> | what? I just upgraded to that, how did you know? |
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| 23:14 | <andrew> | http://www.occupytheboardroom.org/ |
| 23:21 | <JoeK> | chesty: cant tell if serious or troll |
| 23:25 | <chesty> | What? I got sick of netsplits and cloaked trolls, the gold account lets me see through the cloaks and be on the gold server with no netsplits |
| 23:32 | <squircle> | chesty: how do I gold account? |
| 23:34 | <Daevien> | squircle: first you need to take on a special mission.... if you complete that, you can get gold |
| 23:34 | <squircle> | :O |
| 23:35 | <squircle> | tell me more! |
| 23:35 | * | Daevien checks the mission log. today's special mission is to make a certain someone from the channel disappear and never return.... then the channel will pay for your gold status |
| 23:36 | <squircle> | hmmmm... |
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| 23:38 | <Obsidian|server> | ignore, just a test |
| 23:38 | <Obsidian|server> | デジタルスネイル |
| 23:39 | * | Daevien beats Obsidian|server with a cluebat. just ignore, only a test |
| 23:40 | <squircle> | !rainbow ignore, just a test |
| 23:40 | <linbot> | squircle: ignore, just a test |
| 23:40 | <squircle> | sadface :( |
| 23:41 | <Obsidian|server> | btw, did that appear as normal kakatana? |
| 23:41 | <squircle> | i don't know, I ignored it (after all, it was just a test). |
| 23:42 | <Daevien> | Obsidian|server: dunno, try it somewhere else besides #linode and see |
| 23:42 | <chesty> | try #test |
| 23:47 | <SleePy> | This is a test of the emergency broadcast system.. |
| 23:48 | <Obsidian|server> | beeeeeep. beeep. wroonnnnnnk~ |
| 23:51 | <MJCS> | awooooga |
| 23:52 | <SleePy> | You've got mail! |
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| 23:59 | <linbot> | Point (0.59987247, 0.49734763) lies within the unit circle. Hits: 108322 of 137517 (π ≈ 3.150795901597621 - 0.009203248007827). http://π.hoopycat.com/ |
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