| --- | Log | opened Sun Feb 07 00:00:18 2010 |
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| 00:02 | <TLKit> | Hm. |
| 00:02 | <TLKit> | nginx or Apache. |
| 00:02 | <Peng> | jed: HTML 5's DOCTYPE is "<!DOCTYPE html>", and it's not XML. That page looks like good old XHTML. |
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| 00:03 | <@jed> | interesting |
| 00:04 | <@jed> | so they figured out that URLs no browser ever hit were pointless in an SGML doctype |
| 00:04 | <@jed> | good for them |
| 00:07 | <TLKit> | jed is hawt. |
| 00:08 | <@jed> | http://news.discovery.com/tech/toyota-recall-software-code.html |
| 00:08 | <@jed> | I'm suspicious that a mercedes has several times more code than a 787 |
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| 00:09 | <Peng> | Wow, why will the F-35 require so much more code than the F-22? |
| 00:09 | <@jed> | more computers |
| 00:11 | <TLKit> | So. |
| 00:11 | <TLKit> | Apache or nginx. |
| 00:11 | <jdub> | nginx |
| 00:11 | <mwalling> | have you ever seen the code SimuLink puts out? |
| 00:11 | <TLKit> | I don't even know how to decide which |
| 00:11 | <jdub> | (and apache) |
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| 00:14 | <maushu> | Peng, "good old XHTML"?! Wat. |
| 00:14 | <Peng> | What? |
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| 00:15 | <maushu> | <img src="" alt=""> != <img src="" alt="" /> |
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| 00:17 | <SelfishMan> | jed: your iphone graphs only show data in one direction? |
| 00:18 | * | jed shrugs |
| 00:18 | <mwalling> | jed: supprised it took us this long? |
| 00:18 | <Peng> | maushu: And? Does that page use that or something? |
| 00:18 | <mwalling> | yes, BSG will be better for next time |
| 00:19 | * | SelfishMan was busy watching big bang theory |
| 00:19 | <Peng> | maushu: I mean, the HTML-style one? |
| 00:19 | * | Peng doesn't get it. |
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| 00:19 | <maushu> | Peng, proper syntax allows easy parsing! Trust me, I coded html scrappers. |
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| 00:19 | <maushu> | (Don't worry! I know regex!) |
| 00:20 | <Peng> | maushu: Yes, but what about HTML/XHTML syntax? Why did you mention it? |
| 00:20 | <jdub> | maushu: fragility is a terrible model for the web |
| 00:20 | <maushu> | http://xkcd.com/208/ |
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| 00:38 | <TLKit> | Failed to fetch http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/debian/debian/pool/main/ o/openssl/openssl_0.9.8g-15_i386.deb 404 Not Found |
| 00:38 | <TLKit> | Failed to fetch http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/debian/debian/pool/main/ p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.0-19_all.deb 404 Not Found |
| 00:38 | <TLKit> | Failed to fetch http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/debian/debian/pool/main/ |
| 00:38 | <TLKit> | Hawt. |
| 00:41 | <@jed> | update? |
| 00:41 | <TLKit> | I did. |
| 00:41 | <mwalling> | urmom? |
| 00:41 | <TLKit> | All good now. |
| 00:41 | <mwalling> | thats what she said |
| 00:42 | <nb> | !urmom |
| 00:42 | <linbot> | nb: Yo momma's so stupid, she takes herbal penis enlargement pills. (790:4/7) [mmour] |
| 00:42 | <nb> | !alias add twss echo THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! |
| 00:42 | <linbot> | nb: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:42 | <nb> | !twss |
| 00:42 | <linbot> | THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! |
| 00:42 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:42 | <nb> | lol |
| 00:44 | <cynic^> | Any word on when fremont will be on sale again? |
| 00:44 | <mwalling> | cynic^: open a ticket, you can get in line |
| 00:45 | <cynic^> | oh |
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| 00:47 | <mwalling> | cynic^: its a more definitative answer, since i dropped my crystal ball last night, and its all swirlly now |
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| 00:59 | <chesty> | re f-22 vs f-35, the f-22 is probably more aerodynamic, the f-35 probably can't fly at all without computers adjusting things all the time. just my guess |
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| 00:59 | <snassar> | yeah, but the IL-2 beats both of them at light armor disposal |
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| 02:02 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Need help booting into LVM root in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5033>; |
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| 02:19 | <TLKit> | So, I want domain.com and www.domain.com to work, set A records for domain.com and www.domain.com (sub-domain). |
| 02:20 | <TLKit> | www.domain.com works but domain.com doens't, I assume I need to be adding something else in the config file? |
| 02:20 | <bob2> | you need to configure your webserver correctly |
| 02:20 | <bob2> | to either consider them to be the same or to redirect one to the other |
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| 02:36 | <TLKit> | And, how would I do that. |
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| 02:37 | <bob2> | you didn't mentio your OS or web server |
| 02:38 | <TLKit> | Deb 5.0, Apache. |
| 02:38 | <bob2> | and which do you want to do? |
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| 02:42 | <opello> | tjfontaine: there's a bug :p |
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| 03:03 | <blognewb> | hey guys! |
| 03:04 | <blognewb> | is there like an aggregate blog/link guide about open source ecommerce solutions? Everything from the shopping cart framework to mailing list, to bookkeeping? |
| 03:04 | <blognewb> | magento, phplist, gnucash...? |
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| 04:01 | <Cychie> | lo everybody |
| 04:02 | <Cychie> | I am having some difficulty with the dns manager and slave zones on it |
| 04:02 | <Cychie> | they don't seem to be updating when serial numbers change |
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| 04:07 | <bob2> | which zone, what's your master, how long have you waited? |
| 04:08 | <TLKit> | bob2: PM? |
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| 04:12 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 04:12 | <A-KO> | why does everyone always want to go into private messages? lol |
| 04:13 | <bob2> | who knows |
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| 04:15 | <TLKit> | To cyber! |
| 04:15 | <TLKit> | I could ask here. |
| 04:15 | <TLKit> | Basically, where we left off, Deb 5.0, Apache. |
| 04:15 | <TLKit> | Have www.domain.com running but not domain.com. |
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| 04:16 | <bob2> | pastebin your config |
| 04:16 | <bob2> | from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 04:16 | <TLKit> | K. |
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| 04:18 | <TLKit> | http://p.linode.com/3463 |
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| 04:19 | <rocket> | hello |
| 04:19 | <rocket> | i just finished setting up my linode |
| 04:20 | <rocket> | full security, nginx, php, mysql, 2 sites, git w/ gitosis |
| 04:20 | <rocket> | total time 3 days |
| 04:20 | <rocket> | free memory out of 360 = 303MB |
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| 04:28 | <bob2> | TLKit: one thing to bear in mind is that "<VirtualHost www.skaro.ws:80>" means "bind this virtualhost config to the ip www.blah.com resolves to" |
| 04:29 | <bob2> | TLKit: it doesn't control name based virtualhosting at all |
| 04:29 | <bob2> | TLKit: and by the at I mean, if you try to serve another domain on the same IP, things will break |
| 04:29 | <bob2> | TLKit: http://p.linode.com/3464 |
| 04:29 | <bob2> | TLKit: now both work, and future vhosts will work too |
| 04:34 | <TLKit> | Thanks, bob2. |
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| 04:48 | <TinyAmitz> | spkitty: just wanna... brag. i finally found the long lost collection of mine, including tv version of maze not released everywhere since the copyright owner decline to grant the right anywhere, muahahaha. |
| 04:50 | <TinyAmitz> | spkitty: i can't even recognize a quarter of the titles! |
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| 05:00 | <TinyAmitz> | damn, need larger hard drives :-p |
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| 05:00 | <chesty> | !twssln |
| 05:00 | <agentbleubleu> | anyone awake? I have transfered a linode to London and having some trouble getting the new IP to recognize the server. |
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| 05:09 | <bob2> | !ask |
| 05:09 | <linbot> | Don't ask to ask; just ASK |
| 05:10 | <TLKit> | bob2: How do I go about adding a sub-domain? |
| 05:13 | <SelfishMan> | What exactly does "trouble geting the new IP to recognize the server" mean? |
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| 05:20 | <bob2> | TLKit: depends what you want it to do |
| 05:21 | <TLKit> | A seperate thing, so - not going to some dir. within the domain.com one, but its own. |
| 05:22 | <bob2> | then add another file to /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 05:22 | <SelfishMan> | That would just be a simple A record then |
| 05:23 | <chesty> | as apposed to a complicated A record |
| 05:24 | <SelfishMan> | as opposed to creating yet another zone |
| 05:27 | <agentbleubleu> | The new server cannot be reached by going to the IP |
| 05:27 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Debian lenny & fuse in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5164>; |
| 05:27 | <Smark> | Hmm, anyone have any idea as to what would cause Munin's cgi-bin on-the-fly graphing tool to stop serving the graphs after it creates them? |
| 05:27 | <bob2> | agentbleubleu: login via lish and fix your network config |
| 05:28 | <SelfishMan> | agentbleubleu: are you using static or dhcp for your network config? |
| 05:28 | <agentbleubleu> | im in lish now |
| 05:28 | <agentbleubleu> | not sure |
| 05:28 | <agentbleubleu> | static i think |
| 05:28 | <chesty> | what distro? |
| 05:28 | * | SelfishMan recommends checking before answering |
| 05:28 | <agentbleubleu> | ubunto |
| 05:29 | <chesty> | vim /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:29 | <agentbleubleu> | cheeers |
| 05:30 | <agentbleubleu> | static |
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| 05:31 | <agentbleubleu> | for etho i have the address and what is the gateway |
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| 05:31 | <bob2> | all the information you need os on the netwotk page of the linode web thing |
| 05:32 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
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| 05:33 | <SelfishMan> | !library apache |
| 05:33 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: 1. Install the Apache 2 Web Server on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/fp5ega) - 2. Multiple Web Servers with ProxyPass on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/mps5s) - 3. Multiple Web Servers with ProxyPass on Debian 5 (Lenny) (http://bitl.in/2b8ni) |
| 05:36 | <agentbleubleu> | ok i have changed the address in network, do i need to reboot, apache restart seems to not help |
| 05:37 | <bob2> | restart 'networking' |
| 05:39 | <agentbleubleu> | got it thanks |
| 05:39 | <Smark> | Any idea how to fix a "Timeout waiting for output from CGI script munin-cgi-graph" error in apache error logs? |
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| 06:15 | <agentbleubleu> | having migrated a Linode to London, the FTP is now really slow for this server, any ideas why? |
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| 06:21 | <agentbleubleu> | hmm the whole server is going very slow |
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| 06:34 | <agentbleubleu> | and curl is not working? |
| 06:34 | <TLKit> | Mine's fine. |
| 06:35 | <agentbleubleu> | hmm |
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| 06:39 | <chesty> | !mtr |
| 06:39 | <linbot> | mtr combines the functionality of traceroute and ping into one easy to use tool, and the output can be useful for determining where the source of a problem is. It can be downloaded from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows. MTR summaries can be retrieved in-channel using the command !mtr-CITY where CITY is fremont, atlanta, newark, dallas or london. |
| 06:40 | <Yaakov> | There is no !mtr-London any more. |
| 06:40 | <Yaakov> | Someone needs to step up on that one... |
| 06:40 | <Yaakov> | Peng has a 'node in London, doesn't he? |
| 06:40 | <Yaakov> | PENG STEP UP |
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| 06:41 | <agentbleubleu> | and on london iim getting nothing from curl: root@(none):~# curl --url http://linode.com |
| 06:41 | <agentbleubleu> | root@(none):~# |
| 06:41 | <chesty> | did you change /etc/resolve.conf? |
| 06:41 | <agentbleubleu> | no |
| 06:41 | <chesty> | you need to |
| 06:41 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 06:42 | <chesty> | /etc/resolv.conf |
| 06:42 | <chesty> | no e |
| 06:42 | <agentbleubleu> | its got 3 ips in there which i dont recognise |
| 06:43 | <chesty> | get the correct ones from the network tab of the linode dashboard |
| 06:43 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 06:44 | <agentbleubleu> | so the nameserver should be DNS Servers: in the linode panel |
| 06:45 | <chesty> | yes |
| 06:50 | <agentbleubleu> | ah thats it all speeded up and working now |
| 06:50 | <agentbleubleu> | cheers |
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| 06:54 | <chesty> | sped |
| 06:54 | <TLKit> | The iPhone application is hawt. |
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| 07:08 | <TLKit> | Wow. |
| 07:08 | <TLKit> | Chrome has a lot of caching issues. |
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| 07:18 | * | bintut waves |
| 07:19 | <bintut> | is there a way to clone an image from an existing linode to a new linode via api? |
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| 07:32 | <WoodWork> | bintut; only using rsync.. AFAIK. |
| 07:32 | <WoodWork> | !library disk |
| 07:32 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Copying site from external LAMP VPS to Debian/Nginx Linode? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5165>; |
| 07:32 | <linbot> | WoodWork: 1. Managing Linode Disk Images (http://bitl.in/ctt1if) - 2. Copying a Disk Image to a Separate Linode Account (http://bitl.in/onw) - 3. Copying a Disk Image Over SSH (http://bitl.in/szlyi) |
| 07:32 | <WoodWork> | :) |
| 07:33 | <SelfishMan> | !library custom |
| 07:33 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: 1. Custom Distro HowTo (http://bitl.in/m9fi) - 2. Running Custom Kernels with PV-GRUB (http://bitl.in/j2anv) - 3. Install MySQL on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/y0fi) |
| 07:34 | <WoodWork> | bintut; actually there's an option in the settings and utilites tab in the Linode Manager. |
| 07:34 | <WoodWork> | :) |
| 07:34 | <bintut> | hhmmmm.. |
| 07:35 | <WoodWork> | The bottom right.. "Clone this Linode" You can choose indivual disks. |
| 07:35 | * | SelfishMan finally reads the whole question |
| 07:35 | <WoodWork> | ^_^ |
| 07:35 | <bintut> | WoodWork: i'm looking at a way to automate in creating a linode disk image by cloning the existing image to a new linode account |
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| 07:35 | <bintut> | brb. got a phone call.. |
| 07:36 | <SelfishMan> | yes, on the settings & utilities tab you can clone an image to another node. The image must not be in use at the time. |
| 07:36 | <WoodWork> | bintut, at the moment there is a service http://linploy.com - I don't know if that can fit your circumstances. |
| 07:39 | <WoodWork> | There's always rsync. ;D |
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| 07:55 | <fahadsadah> | What was my last quit message? |
| 07:56 | <Yaakov> | 07|07:54:34 -!- fahadsadah [fahad@pyramid.cluenet.org] has quit [HaCk3D bY -=AnonYmoUS=-] |
| 07:56 | <danp> | fahadsadah: too much cheese |
| 07:57 | <Yaakov> | "Server closed Connection" |
| 07:57 | <fahadsadah> | Thanks |
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| 08:18 | <bintut> | SelfishMan: yes, i know that. i'm looking for a way to automate the cloning of a linode disk image. i checked www.linode.com/api and on what i understand on that page, there is no api for disk cloning. please correct me if i'm wrong |
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| 09:27 | <agentbleubleu> | in screen I would like to increase the viewable area, dragging the shell bigger does not help as it is curtailed in the screen only showing 25 lines, how to increase this |
| 09:28 | <bss> | C-a F |
| 09:34 | <agentbleubleu> | strange if i create a new window it shows full screen, then when i flip through a few and come back it is again limited to 25 lines, I have tried with flow auto and norm |
| 09:34 | <chesty> | are you connecting to the same screen multiple times? |
| 09:36 | <agentbleubleu> | yes seems to be working now, I killed them all and started over. |
| 09:36 | <chesty> | you have to have all the terminals the same size if you connect them all to the same screen |
| 09:37 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 09:38 | <agentbleubleu> | one more thing about screen and shell, on some systems delete, deletes the forward charactor and some its the behind, how to set this |
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| 10:52 | <Yaakov> | Peng |
| 10:53 | <amitz> | Yaakov: why Peng? why not your regular partner? |
| 10:54 | <Yaakov> | It is a distributed effort. |
| 10:55 | <mwalling> | +1 for randomness |
| 10:55 | <Yaakov> | Peng has a London node, and I know him fairly well. |
| 10:56 | <Yaakov> | HELLO MWALLING |
| 10:56 | <mwalling> | HELLO YAAKOV |
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| 11:13 | <Napta> | hrm, there doesn't seem to be a way to enforce sasl authentication on /specific networks/ in postfix |
| 11:14 | <Napta> | e.g. if you relay for an IP, but you want to impose sasl on that IP only |
| 11:14 | <Napta> | that sucks |
| 11:14 | <amitz> | old CDs are awesome! Keep data longer than newer ones. |
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| 11:27 | <Peng> | Yaakov: I _did_ have a London node, but I don't now? |
| 11:27 | <Peng> | Why did I put a question mark there? |
| 11:28 | <Yaakov> | Peng: So you are saying you are useless? |
| 11:28 | <Peng> | Yaakov: Yes. |
| 11:28 | <Yaakov> | That's sad. |
| 11:29 | <Peng> | The antidepressants help. |
| 11:29 | <Yaakov> | I have to do a technology refresh on my smoke detectors. Be back later. |
| 11:32 | <amitz> | there is an advantage of being old. Stuff you used to see as insignificant become much more richer in information when you see them now. |
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| 11:39 | <satdav> | Hello there what control panel do you offer |
| 11:40 | <amitz> | satdav: custom made. it's awesome! and they have the iphone version. |
| 11:40 | <satdav> | does it have a script installer or sitebuilder on it |
| 11:40 | <@caker> | satdav: there is no control panel in the sense you're implying |
| 11:40 | <mwalling> | yes, its called aptitude (if you're using debian or ubuntu) |
| 11:40 | <satdav> | OK |
| 11:41 | <Peng> | satdav: You can, of course, get a cPanel license and install it yourself if you want to. |
| 11:41 | <satdav> | can you offer any like cpanel or that |
| 11:41 | <satdav> | or plesk |
| 11:41 | <satdav> | will you do webmin on the server |
| 11:41 | <Peng> | satdav: Linode does not offer any of that stuff. Like I said, you can obtain it yourself. |
| 11:41 | <WoodWork> | satdav: http://www.instantcpanellicense.com/ |
| 11:41 | <Peng> | satdav: Linode is an unmanaged service. You can install Webmin yourself. |
| 11:41 | <mwalling> | you can install webmin if you want |
| 11:41 | <satdav> | will you be offering windows hosting |
| 11:41 | <mwalling> | you can install (almost) anything you want. some restrictions apply, see store for details |
| 11:42 | <mwalling> | windows doesnt work in linode's tech stack |
| 11:42 | * | caker upgrades to urmom 2.0 |
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| 11:43 | <satdav> | OK |
| 11:43 | <satdav> | I was going to do openfire |
| 11:43 | <ericoc> | cpanel license is nearly as much as a linode360 |
| 11:43 | <WoodWork> | Indeed. |
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| 11:43 | <mwalling> | !f library openfire |
| 11:44 | <linbot> | mwalling: Screw you, mwalling |
| 11:44 | <ericoc> | is it a pain to install cpanel? it seems like it would be.. |
| 11:44 | <Peng> | !library openfire |
| 11:44 | <mwalling> | SelfishMan: fix your damn script |
| 11:44 | <linbot> | Peng: 1. Using Openfire RTC on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/2z5v1a) - 2. Using Openfire RTC on Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) (http://bitl.in/0rvav) - 3. Using Openfire RTC on CentOS 5 (http://bitl.in/1ep) |
| 11:44 | <mwalling> | satdav: ^^ |
| 11:45 | <TLKit> | I <3 Linux. |
| 11:45 | <mwalling> | i <3 windows |
| 11:45 | <satdav> | will you be offering windows |
| 11:46 | <Peng> | satdav: Probably not. |
| 11:46 | <mwalling> | !f what does linode stand for |
| 11:46 | <linbot> | mwalling: What does Linode stand for? Linode stands for Linux Node. |
| 11:46 | <grawity> | That, and Windows doesn't work that good on Xen. |
| 11:46 | <mwalling> | in linodes setup |
| 11:47 | <mwalling> | you can do it in the other xen setup |
| 11:47 | <mwalling> | (and thats a noun. dont hit the button.) |
| 11:48 | <amitz> | grawity: oh? doesn't work good? |
| 11:48 | <grawity> | amitz: afaik |
| 11:49 | <mwalling> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen#MS_Windows_systems_as_guests |
| 11:49 | <@caker> | windows requires full virt, which we intentionally don't support for various reasons |
| 11:49 | <mwalling> | aka, it doesnt work in linodes setup, but does in the other mode |
| 11:50 | <mwalling> | (i lisen when bd_ goes on his tangents :) |
| 11:51 | <amitz> | so cute, I still have icq version 99a :-p |
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| 11:51 | <A-KO> | that's old school |
| 11:52 | <tompuppy> | !seen caker |
| 11:52 | <linbot> | tompuppy: caker was last seen in #linode 2 minutes and 51 seconds ago: <caker> windows requires full virt, which we intentionally don't support for various reasons |
| 11:52 | <amitz> | A-KO: browsing old collecyion |
| 11:52 | <WoodWork> | !seen hoopycat |
| 11:52 | <linbot> | WoodWork: hoopycat was last seen in #linode 1 day, 12 hours, 26 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <HoopyCat> afk, chrooting urdad |
| 11:52 | <spkitty> | amitz: hows that collection going |
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| 11:53 | <WoodWork> | :) |
| 11:54 | <amitz> | spkitty: surprisingly, the older CDs all still work! but not the newer ones |
| 11:54 | <spkitty> | cd media got pretty crappy later on |
| 11:54 | <amitz> | ie5!! |
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| 12:01 | <amitz> | spkitty: many of my collections are real player format :-p. The time when space and bandwidth was quite premium. |
| 12:01 | <spkitty> | i never used .rm even back then. it was such a fucking nightmare especially on a mac |
| 12:02 | <@caker> | they're still around? |
| 12:02 | <spkitty> | very much so caker :( |
| 12:02 | <@caker> | har http://realplayer.com/blog/ <-- last post Feb 2008! |
| 12:03 | <@caker> | that what I thought. |
| 12:03 | <amitz> | spkitty: mac used to suck so bad that I remember people would rather chose PC over mac in computer lab. |
| 12:03 | <spkitty> | that was just because nobody knew how to use macs |
| 12:03 | <spkitty> | OS7-9 was awesome |
| 12:04 | <amitz> | one thing for sure, it took me sometime to figure out how to eject my floppy :- |
| 12:04 | <spkitty> | caker: http://twitter.com/realplayer they're still twittering! |
| 12:04 | <@caker> | awesome |
| 12:04 | <spkitty> | "The RealPlayer Team is working on something super cool that we'll be showing off later this week. Stay tuned!!" I AM SO EXCITED |
| 12:04 | <@caker> | we have more followers than them :) |
| 12:07 | <Napta> | are linode a customer of pingdom ? |
| 12:07 | <Napta> | or vice versa? ;) |
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| 12:16 | <charlie> | caker, looks like they're doing something: http://www.realnetworks.com/pressroom/index.aspx |
| 12:16 | <charlie> | poor guys, someone needs to tell them that no one cares about their proprietary format and their proprietary player anymore |
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| 12:19 | <Yaakov> | caker: I'll follow you anywhere! |
| 12:19 | <Yaakov> | Except Facebook, I don't do Facebook. |
| 12:19 | <coobra> | :p |
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| 12:30 | <amitz> | when the proprietary player perform worse than the open source player, that's the end of the company... |
| 12:30 | <@caker> | +1 |
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| 12:31 | <amitz> | caker: btw, you knew the proprietary player performs worse? |
| 12:32 | <@caker> | I knew it was a POS from years ago, at least |
| 12:33 | * | caker goes back to making MySQL dynamically execute SQL :> |
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| 12:35 | <amitz> | positive thinking: possible new feature/app alert! :-p |
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| 12:38 | <anders1> | you know what would be cool for the linode iphone app |
| 12:38 | <anders1> | push notification api through the linode api |
| 12:38 | <fooboos> | are there any cdn options within the linode stack? |
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| 12:43 | <@caker> | fooboos: we currently do not offer a CDN service |
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| 12:47 | <WoodWork> | It is something that may be added? .. I'll be interested in this too.. |
| 12:52 | <Twayne> | ... |
| 12:52 | <thegodlikehobo> | ●●● |
| 12:53 | <Twayne> | :( |
| 12:53 | <Twayne> | not fair. you cheat |
| 12:53 | <thegodlikehobo> | (=ﾟωﾟ=) |
| 12:56 | <spkitty> | °°° |
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| 12:59 | <mwalling> | Linode has his nails in my leg |
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| 13:13 | <@jed> | what's the character that everybody uses in e-mails inside their username to differentiate signups |
| 13:13 | <@jed> | #? |
| 13:13 | <@jed> | jed_something@... |
| 13:13 | <@jed> | fill in the _ |
| 13:14 | <@jed> | drawing a blank |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | - |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | address extensions |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | its commonly + |
| 13:14 | <anders1> | + |
| 13:14 | <robg> | + |
| 13:14 | <@jed> | + that's it |
| 13:14 | <@jed> | <3 |
| 13:14 | <TLKit> | + |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | i use - |
| 13:14 | <spkitty> | + |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | where Twayne |
| 13:14 | <@jed> | my mind got on "#" and I couldn't let go |
| 13:14 | <mwalling> | s/where/where's/ |
| 13:14 | <@jed> | google apps will deliver jed+foo@jedsmith.org, won't it |
| 13:14 | <@caker> | ERROR 1336 (0A000): Dynamic SQL is not allowed in stored function or trigger |
| 13:15 | * | caker stabs |
| 13:15 | <spkitty> | you can use '.' too |
| 13:15 | <spkitty> | at least in google anyway |
| 13:15 | <mwalling> | spkitty: its not an extension |
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| 13:15 | <spkitty> | ohhhhh |
| 13:15 | <mwalling> | jed: yes, gmail uses + as an address extension char |
| 13:16 | <mwalling> | spkitty: m.a.r.k.@markwalling.org == mark@markwalling.org, but mark.urmom@markwalling.org != mark@markwalling.org |
| 13:16 | <charlie> | what is the + for? |
| 13:16 | <spkitty> | yeah, i get you |
| 13:16 | <mwalling> | mark+urmom@markwalling.org == mark@markwalling.org |
| 13:16 | <mwalling> | but then you can filter on the To: |
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| 13:17 | <spkitty> | i just spent the last 3 days fucking around with email systems and procmail, you'd think i would've realised that :/ |
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| 13:35 | <DephNet[Paul]> | how does one remove their linode, yet keep their DNS zones served by Linode? |
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| 13:36 | <mwalling> | ya dont |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | you need a billable node for dns to work |
| 13:38 | <DephNet[Paul]> | hmm, ok |
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| 13:58 | <@jed> | signed javascript is confusing |
| 13:58 | <@jed> | I have a key and certificate for jedsmith.org, that I even made a p12, but when I import it into the browser signtool doesn't see it |
| 13:59 | <@jed> | anyone ever gone down this road? |
| 13:59 | <@jed> | I need to get location.href from an iframe so I'm signing my javascript |
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| 14:02 | <warewolf> | caket- on my phone, just got your email |
| 14:02 | <warewolf> | caker- offending services wwill be going away |
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| 14:04 | <@caker> | warewolf: sucks it has to be that way .. |
| 14:05 | <@caker> | if there was any other way, I'd do it ... |
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| 14:07 | <grawity> | jed: Is the certificate valid for code signing? |
| 14:07 | <@jed> | says it is |
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| 14:07 | <@jed> | oh, it just says "Signing" |
| 14:07 | <@jed> | is there a different code signing class? |
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| 14:08 | <grawity> | afaik, there is. |
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| 14:14 | <@jed> | well, I just made a temporary signing certificate in the store using signtool, then signed, then uploaded, then went to the right place... firefox asked me "hey, this script is about to rm -rf /, is that cool lulz?" and I clicked "Allow", but the console is still giving me same-origin failures |
| 14:14 | <@jed> | fail. |
| 14:19 | <spkitty> | why is using an iframe necessary jed |
| 14:20 | <@jed> | well, I need a browser within a browser |
| 14:20 | <@jed> | (sup dawg) |
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| 14:20 | <spkitty> | haha |
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| 14:46 | <MonkeyIsland> | i run a shell command in php by shell_exec(), it works for the first time, but all other tries fails unless I reboot the system and it works again at the first try. same command works all the time executing directly in SSH. any idea? Is there something about php that still in the process and mess with the next try? |
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| 14:56 | <Braxton> | are there any linode staff present? |
| 14:56 | <mwalling> | !community |
| 14:56 | <linbot> | The staff may or may not be around but if you tell us your problem then someone in here may be able to help |
| 14:57 | <Braxton> | Was hoping to quickly file an abuse complaint |
| 14:57 | <Braxton> | ty |
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| 14:58 | <mwalling> | whats with the sudden surge in people who dont understand AbuseHandles in whois data? |
| 14:59 | <thegodlikehobo> | thinking is overrated. it's best to defer all thought processes to irc. |
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| 15:00 | <mwalling> | i liked the person who posted all of this stuff about how linode hosted bad things on his blog, and in the comments said he never bothered contacting linode |
| 15:00 | <mwalling> | or something like that |
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| 15:04 | <BarkerJr> | well, they do |
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| 15:09 | <axod> | I heard they fund terrorism |
| 15:09 | <axod> | I read it on google, which is never wrong |
| 15:09 | <BarkerJr> | well, they do |
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| 15:10 | <axod> | !avail-nj |
| 15:10 | <linbot> | axod: Newark360 - 10, Newark540 - 5, Newark720 - 5, Newark1080 - 7, Newark1440 - 5, Newark2880 - 2, Newark5760 - 1, Newark8640 - 1, Newark11520 - 1, Newark14400 - 1 |
| 15:10 | <axod> | hoorah |
| 15:10 | <BarkerJr> | !avail-ca |
| 15:10 | <linbot> | BarkerJr: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0, Fremont2880 - 0, Fremont5760 - 0 |
| 15:10 | <axod> | :o |
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| 15:21 | <anders1> | !avail-uk |
| 15:21 | <linbot> | anders1: London360 - 65, London540 - 46, London720 - 37, London1080 - 8, London1440 - 6, London2880 - 1, London5760 - 1, London8640 - 1, London11520 - 1, London14400 - 1 |
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| 15:23 | <nb> | hmm, the 1080 and 1440 got taken in fremont |
| 15:23 | <nb> | nice |
| 15:24 | <axod> | wonder how many people are on the big ones 14400 etc :/ |
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| 15:35 | <MonkeyIsland> | is there any command to get the last largest file on the whole system? |
| 15:36 | <mwalling> | sure you could concoct one... find, ls, awk, sort, |
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| 15:40 | <axod> | you could start at the root dir, and do du -sh * |
| 15:41 | <axod> | then trace down dirs choosing the biggest one each time :/ might find a disk hog |
| 15:42 | <charlie> | axod, how big are mibbit's servers? |
| 15:42 | <Nivex> | Not because I'm spoonfeeding, but because I found it an interesting brainteaser: |
| 15:42 | <Nivex> | find -ls | awk 'BEGIN{lname="";lsize=0} {if ($7 > lsize) {lsize=$7;lname=$11}} END { print lsize, lname}' |
| 15:42 | <axod> | charlie: I used to have a 2880, but just downsized so I can spread out. I'm planning on using mostly 540s |
| 15:42 | <Nivex> | run that in the directory of interest, / for the whole thing |
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| 15:43 | <Nivex> | it will take awhile though |
| 15:44 | <charlie> | axod, oh, cool. have you made any progress with freenode or are they just not going to budge? |
| 15:44 | <axod> | charlie: it's not a useful use of time IMHO. They made it quite clear they didn't want the Mibbit client on their network in any form |
| 15:44 | <axod> | shame really :/ |
| 15:45 | <axod> | but freenode are a funny community sometimes |
| 15:45 | <charlie> | yeah, it certainly is a shame. mibbit is a lot better than their "official" web client, and mibbit is actually getting a lot of innovative improvements unlike their client... |
| 15:45 | <charlie> | i really dislike their staff members in general |
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| 15:47 | <axod> | charlie: the developer of qwebirc said to me "It's finished software, it won't get updated much now. It's done its job" |
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| 15:48 | <axod> | thx @ innovative improvements :) although atm I seem to be spending all my time building boring backend updates |
| 15:48 | * | grawity never understood the point of webchat, really. |
| 15:48 | <thegodlikehobo> | freenode staff are indeed some odd folk. i once asked for an unaffialated cloak on freenode, and was told i'd have to wait two weeks. two weeks minus 2 hours later i asked again, and chastised for inquiring before the deadline. :| |
| 15:49 | <axod> | thegodlikehobo: to register an official channel, waiting time is measured in months |
| 15:49 | <Solver> | well they said 2 weeks ;) |
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| 15:49 | <axod> | grawity: some ppl like webmail :/ |
| 15:49 | <charlie> | axod, ugh... that's just ridiculous. I wonder if I can setup an irssi proxy and connect to it using mibbit. and yeah, definitely. stuff like WebSockets etc will definitely improve the UX |
| 15:49 | <axod> | I was surprised. We already have almost 10% using websocket |
| 15:49 | <axod> | but then chrome is kicking major ass |
| 15:50 | <charlie> | Chrome has like 10% of the market share too, looks like it's reflected well |
| 15:51 | <Nivex> | someday someone is going to have to explain to me the point of WebSockets |
| 15:51 | <axod> | Nivex: they offer some improvements over comet |
| 15:51 | <grawity> | Nivex: It's web2.0ized TCP. |
| 15:52 | <axod> | the pain though is some web proxies/caches bork them and block the traffic without telling either side |
| 15:52 | <Nivex> | grawity: web is HTTP, which operates on sockets already |
| 15:52 | <Nivex> | seems like an awful waste of time and resources |
| 15:52 | <axod> | Nivex: it's pretty low level |
| 15:52 | * | grawity sees no SSL or SASL support on Mibbit :| |
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| 15:52 | <axod> | just a method to drop a HTTP connection down into sending/recving packets |
| 15:53 | <axod> | grawity: ssl yes, |
| 15:53 | <axod> | https and irc.network.com:+6697 (ssl there) |
| 15:54 | <axod> | websocket also allows you to connect anywhere (same origin doesn't apply) |
| 15:54 | * | grawity tries irssiproxy with it. |
| 15:54 | <grawity> | Hmm |
| 15:56 | <grawity> | axod: Also, I believe it's spelled "electrocute", not "electricute" (in http://mibbit.com/chat) |
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| 15:56 | <axod> | you win the internet! :) |
| 15:56 | <axod> | heh thx :/ will update |
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| 16:09 | <funkytastic> | is it possible linode dns doesn't support domains starting with 'www'? |
| 16:09 | <bob2> | no |
| 16:09 | <bob2> | what problem are you seeing? |
| 16:10 | <funkytastic> | i added a master zone and it's marked as generated and active, yet ns1-ns5 are refusing to answer any queries about it |
| 16:11 | <funkytastic> | wow, disregard. i am a terrible typist |
| 16:12 | <bob2> | hw long ago? |
| 16:12 | <bob2> | it takes 15 minutes for updates to reach them |
| 16:12 | <bob2> | (and sometimes seems to take longer than that for the initial push of a new zone) |
| 16:12 | <funkytastic> | it was a blatant user error |
| 16:13 | <funkytastic> | thanks though |
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| 16:14 | <bob2> | ah |
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| 16:26 | <charlie> | ~ $ dig +short "Hello world".wp.dg.cx txt |
| 16:26 | <charlie> | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 16:28 | <efey> | I want to send/recieve mail using Mutt. if i install and configure postfix will that work ok? |
| 16:29 | <bob2> | that'll let you send |
| 16:30 | <bob2> | do you use an email provider already (e.g. google apps, gmail, yahoo, your isp)? |
| 16:31 | <efey> | no, just got a domain ;P and I want to use mutt |
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| 16:31 | <efey> | postfix and exim are just senders? |
| 16:31 | <bob2> | yes, but mutt doesn't require you to run your own mail infrastructure |
| 16:31 | <bob2> | e.g. you can easily point mutt at any of the above mail providers |
| 16:32 | <efey> | i'd like to run the mailserver myself |
| 16:32 | <efey> | if possible.. to learn ;P |
| 16:32 | <bob2> | well, a new domain you don't care about yet is a good time to learn ;) |
| 16:32 | <bob2> | postfix and exim just do smtp, which is how mail moves between different mail servers |
| 16:33 | <bob2> | so in your case, it'd both send emails from mutt and receive emails from other people |
| 16:33 | <bob2> | (they are "mail transport agents" aka mtas) |
| 16:34 | <bob2> | they both include simple "mail delivery agents" aka "mdas" which then drop this mail on disk |
| 16:34 | <bob2> | mutt can happily access it directly from the disk (or it could access it via an imap server) |
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| 16:37 | <efey> | bob2 so postfix can send and recieve? |
| 16:37 | <efey> | :| |
| 16:38 | <bob2> | via smtp, yes |
| 16:38 | <bob2> | why does that concern you? |
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| 16:41 | <efey> | bob2 all I want is to be able to send/recieve through Mutt, running my own mailserver. I just need to know whether running postfix alone will do that |
| 16:42 | <bob2> | pretty sure I said that |
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| 16:43 | <bob2> | (yes) |
| 16:43 | <efey> | <bob2> that'll let you send |
| 16:43 | <efey> | I got confused ;P |
| 16:44 | <bob2> | git read the rest |
| 16:44 | <bob2> | s/git // |
| 16:45 | <efey> | bob2 is there a guide? |
| 16:45 | <efey> | the one on library shows it using courier and mysql |
| 16:45 | <efey> | is that _needed- |
| 16:46 | <bob2> | of course not |
| 16:46 | <bob2> | but it is handy |
| 16:46 | <bob2> | you can just use unix accounts if you like |
| 16:47 | <efey> | hm? |
| 16:47 | <bob2> | but that means you/other people need unix accounts to receive email |
| 16:47 | <bob2> | and you can't have different users at different domains point at different local users |
| 16:48 | <efey> | only I use this server and I only have one domain |
| 16:48 | <efey> | is there a tutorial for it? |
| 16:49 | <bob2> | are you on debian or ubuntu? |
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| 16:50 | <efey> | bob2 debian |
| 16:50 | <bob2> | fix your hostname |
| 16:50 | <bob2> | install postfix |
| 16:50 | <bob2> | choose "internet site" |
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| 16:51 | <bob2> | have a beer |
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| 16:51 | <bob2> | where fix hostname = have "hostname ; hostname -f" print foo foo.example.org |
| 16:53 | <efey> | ok |
| 16:53 | <efey> | what is the courier and mysql actual for on the postfix tutorial on library ? |
| 16:54 | <bob2> | courier is amongst other things an imap server |
| 16:54 | <bob2> | mysql is used to hold account data |
| 16:56 | <efey> | what option should i use if i want to be able to access the same mail on my BB too? |
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| 16:56 | <bob2> | presumably an imap server |
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| 16:57 | * | Peng pokes ajpiano |
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| 17:01 | <Peng> | ajpiano: OFTC |
| 17:01 | <ajpiano> | Peng: it's a miracle!!! |
| 17:01 | <Peng> | :D |
| 17:02 | <tjfontaine> | e? |
| 17:02 | <tjfontaine> | -e |
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| 17:05 | <Peng> | tjfontaine: ajpiano was having some sort of issue joining. |
| 17:06 | <tjfontaine> | I saw a message yesterday but he was in the channel when I saw it |
| 17:10 | <ajpiano> | my client was bein buggy |
| 17:16 | <Napta> | http://foo.wordpress.net/cgi-sys/defaultwebpage.cgi |
| 17:16 | <Napta> | hahaha |
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| 17:21 | <Peng> | jtsage: I think my TV reception problems may have been from having the antenna backwards. Facepalm. |
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| 17:25 | <N1JER> | Peng: antennas are usually directional, so yes, that may have done it |
| 17:25 | <N1JER> | :) |
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| 17:27 | <linbot> | New news from forums: My sshd was bruteforced! in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5158>; |
| 17:29 | <Peng> | To get one channel, I have to point it to the left, and to get another, I have to point it to the right. I seem to have gotten them mixed up, so it obviously didn't work. :-\ |
| 17:31 | <Peng> | Oh well, they should replay the movies I missed in a couple days. |
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| 17:42 | <coobra> | svensken |
| 17:43 | <coobra> | ewfwef |
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| 17:44 | <livestill> | Is it possible to enable ssh login only to a specific user on my linode? |
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| 17:44 | <BarkerJr> | plenty of ways |
| 17:44 | -!- | brad_ is now known as bradleyayers |
| 17:45 | <BarkerJr> | don't set passwords on the others is my favourite way |
| 17:45 | <livestill> | I have a client who needs to update a tiny website (a page with some pdfs linked)… |
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| 17:45 | <livestill> | oh, I see |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | man sshd_config |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | /AllowUsers |
| 17:45 | <bradleyayers> | so i've just signed up, and i need to place my node, i'm in australia, so none of the data centers are an obvious choice. could i get ip addresses of a computer in each datacenter to determine which would be best choice? |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | fremont |
| 17:45 | <bob2> | !download |
| 17:45 | <linbot> | http://www.linode.com/speedtest |
| 17:46 | <bradleyayers> | thanks |
| 17:46 | <Peng> | bradleyayers: Since Fremont is often sold-out, Dallas is the second-best choice. |
| 17:46 | <bob2> | !migration |
| 17:46 | <linbot> | Linodes can be migrated between datacenters by simply opening a ticket. Your disk images will be copied intact, but you will be issued a new IP address. Once a migration is configured, it makes a button on the dashboard available for you to start the migration yourself. Migration typically takes about 1-3 minutes per GB. |
| 17:46 | <bradleyayers> | even for aus? |
| 17:46 | <bob2> | bradleyayers: it's not much further away |
| 17:46 | <BarkerJr> | livestill, you can set their shell to /sbin/nologin |
| 17:46 | <bradleyayers> | great |
| 17:47 | <bob2> | fremont is already 180ms+ |
| 17:47 | <livestill> | hey thanks! |
| 17:47 | <bob2> | really, use AllowUser |
| 17:47 | <livestill> | I think AllowUsers is what I was looking for. |
| 17:47 | <livestill> | yep |
| 17:48 | <Peng> | Or AllowGroups. |
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| 17:49 | <bradleyayers> | http://dpaste.com/155933/ |
| 17:49 | <bob2> | ya forgot dallas |
| 17:50 | <BarkerJr> | :P |
| 17:51 | <bradleyayers> | ~210 |
| 17:51 | <bradleyayers> | your advice is spot on :) |
| 17:51 | <BarkerJr> | I'll resell ya a fremont 360 at $60/mo |
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| 17:51 | <bradleyayers> | haha |
| 17:52 | <bob2> | !avail-he |
| 17:52 | <linbot> | bob2: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0, Fremont2880 - 0, Fremont5760 - 0 |
| 17:52 | <bob2> | empty house |
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| 17:53 | <bradleyayers> | why is fremont so popular? |
| 17:53 | <Peng> | bradleyayers: It's not. It just has less space available. |
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| 17:53 | <bradleyayers> | ahh okay :) |
| 17:53 | <axod> | !avail-all |
| 17:53 | <linbot> | axod: Atlanta: 360-77 540-54 720-40 1080-11 1440-8 2880-1; Dallas: 360-50 540-28 720-17 1080-1 1440-1 2880-0; Fremont: 360-0 540-0 720-0 1080-0 1440-0 2880-0; London: 360-61 540-45 720-37 1080-8 1440-6 2880-1; Newark: 360-8 540-4 720-5 1080-8 1440-6 2880-1; (0.80956) mwalling's mom sez hai |
| 17:53 | <BarkerJr> | the data center is full, so linode can't add more servers |
| 17:53 | <axod> | isn't freemont the one that filters IRC? |
| 17:53 | <bob2> | no |
| 17:54 | <BarkerJr> | no, that's atlanta |
| 17:54 | <bob2> | atlanta is |
| 17:54 | <axod> | ah ok |
| 17:54 | <axod> | I expect server space in fremont is more expensive? |
| 17:54 | <axod> | in the dot com bubble area... |
| 17:55 | <bob2> | and you can get three watts per rack |
| 17:55 | <BarkerJr> | fremont nodes become available every few days, though, as people expire or cancel... you can get one in dallas now and check back from time to time and snatch up a server in fremont when you see one |
| 17:56 | <BarkerJr> | or just be happy with 30ms more |
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| 17:57 | <Peng> | axod: Dunno, but IIRC Linode has to leave their racks half-empty because of the power and cooling limitations, so aren't getting nearly the bang for their buck. |
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| 17:57 | <bradleyayers> | i am happy with 30ms more |
| 17:58 | <axod> | ah really |
| 17:58 | <Yaakov> | We are seriously considering a Cisco UCS solution. It's very attractive for our application. |
| 17:58 | <bob2> | does it include a self-healing firewall? |
| 17:59 | <Yaakov> | It is amazingly low power and high density and it is the ultimate in virtualization (if you use ESX). |
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| 17:59 | <Yaakov> | It actually virtualizes all of the network hardware and makes it part of the VM's config, so you can use the VMotion stuff and you actually get the same machine, BIOS settings, MAC addreses and all. |
| 18:00 | <Yaakov> | Pretty neat stuff. |
| 18:01 | <BarkerJr> | bob2: firewalls suck |
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| 18:17 | <warewolf> | caker: I'm back from my conference in Wash DC now, if you're free to talk |
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| 18:43 | <jbartus> | anyone know how to get exim to listen only on 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:44 | <jbartus> | not just internally in an acl, but to literally bind to that in netstat |
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| 18:46 | <@pparadis> | jbartus: local_interfaces = 127.0.0.1 |
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| 18:52 | <ewnix> | Any of you have any experience installing FreeBSD on a linode? |
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| 18:53 | <jbartus> | pparadis: thanks! is there a section it belongs in or just paste that at the bottom and restart |
| 18:53 | <jbartus> | ? |
| 18:54 | <bob2> | there's lots of easier options than linode if you want freebsd |
| 18:54 | <BarkerJr> | ewnix, you could give this a try... http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/BSD_Howto |
| 18:54 | <ewnix> | well, I've got one through arpnetworks. |
| 18:55 | <ewnix> | Maybe I'll just go with Gentoo |
| 18:55 | <ewnix> | I run gentoo locally.. it's close enough, I suppose |
| 18:55 | <jbartus> | pparadis: i put it at the end and just got this: |
| 18:55 | <jbartus> | Starting exim: 2010-02-07 23:54:49 Exim configuration error in line 961 of /etc/exim/exim.conf: authenticator name missing |
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| 18:57 | <@pparadis> | jbartus: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/sa-exim/2003-July/000506.html |
| 18:57 | <jbartus> | haha |
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| 18:59 | <jbartus> | great, thanks that did it |
| 18:59 | <ewnix> | is there a howto on swapping distros, but keeping data? |
| 18:59 | <jbartus> | no idea why linode would hand out fedora servers with a listening smtp daemon |
| 19:00 | <bob2> | there's a lesson there |
| 19:00 | <@pparadis> | note that such daemons won't allow relaying anywhere by default |
| 19:00 | <bob2> | if you allocated all your disk to this image, back up stuff externally, delete image, make a new image |
| 19:00 | <@pparadis> | ewnix: you can deploy another distro and mount your old disk image in its configuration profile |
| 19:00 | <bob2> | if you didn't, mount free space, back up to free space, etc etc |
| 19:01 | <bob2> | or! |
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| 19:01 | <bob2> | upgrade your plan to get more disk, do the thing, delete, downgrade |
| 19:01 | <bob2> | <- genius |
| 19:01 | <@pparadis> | :) |
| 19:01 | <@caker> | Step 1: Add 10 more linodes! |
| 19:01 | <@pparadis> | is that in binary or decimal? |
| 19:01 | <Nivex> | hex |
| 19:01 | <bob2> | hex |
| 19:02 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:02 | <BarkerJr> | lol |
| 19:02 | <bob2> | is fremont likely to be replenished soon? |
| 19:02 | <@caker> | bob2: soonish, yes. |
| 19:02 | <bob2> | yay |
| 19:02 | <@caker> | we haz plan |
| 19:03 | <@caker> | Step 1) Fremont Linode tax of +100% |
| 19:03 | <BarkerJr> | I need to move to dallas :P |
| 19:03 | <@caker> | see? it'll work! |
| 19:04 | <jcy> | east coast > west coast |
| 19:04 | <jcy> | USA! USA! USA! |
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| 19:11 | <ewnix> | hey the saints finally got a first down, woot |
| 19:11 | <ewnix> | oh, wrong client |
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| 19:15 | <linbot> | New news from forums: squirrelmail? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5140>; |
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| 19:20 | <Yaakov> | Hello, caker. Hope all is well. |
| 19:25 | <Peng> | caker: Started sending anonymous threats to other Fremont tenants? :D |
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| 19:27 | <@Perihelion> | I will eat your soul. Rawr. |
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| 19:29 | * | apeiron pets Perihelion |
| 19:29 | <apeiron> | cute kitty |
| 19:29 | <@Perihelion> | O_O |
| 19:29 | * | Perihelion hisses |
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| 19:33 | <BarkerJr> | ferrel |
| 19:33 | <Nivex> | will ferrel? |
| 19:33 | <Nivex> | (ITYM feral) |
| 19:33 | <BarkerJr> | :( |
| 19:34 | <BarkerJr> | I like will ferrel |
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| 19:52 | <adnc> | i've just tried the iphone app, this is wonderfull. i wonder how the graphs are fetched? does the api deliver graphs? |
| 19:53 | <amitz> | adnc: no graph planned. |
| 19:53 | <HoopyCat> | on the backs of bonsai kittens via the alameda-weehawken burrito tunnel |
| 19:53 | <adnc> | amitz, but the iphone app has graphs |
| 19:54 | <adnc> | doesnt it use the linode api? |
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| 19:58 | <HoopyCat> | given a username/password, it's probably not too impossible to authenticate against the dashboard and pull graphs |
| 19:58 | <adnc> | is this app done with phonegap? |
| 19:59 | <@jed> | no |
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| 19:59 | <adnc> | jed, do you know what was used todo it? |
| 19:59 | <@jed> | yes, I wrote it: no framework except what apple blessed us with |
| 20:00 | <adnc> | jed, wonderfull app! |
| 20:00 | <@jed> | thank you for the compliments :) |
| 20:00 | <adnc> | do you simply fetch the images from the account and rescale it? |
| 20:01 | <adnc> | i'm asking since i would like to make use of the graphs on a stats computer on my lan |
| 20:01 | <jcy> | the who is on now |
| 20:01 | <jcy> | prepare to be underwhelmed |
| 20:01 | * | HoopyCat sends note to himself for next year: the halftime show uses a different sound crew |
| 20:02 | <HoopyCat> | jesus christ, they musta spent $50 at dealextreme for all them lasers |
| 20:02 | <straterra> | HoopyCat: or a different band |
| 20:03 | <straterra> | HoopyCat: Who let these retards on the field? |
| 20:03 | <straterra> | And its one laser and half a dozen mirrors |
| 20:03 | <HoopyCat> | straterra: i don't recall previous bands requiring an electrified perimeter to protect them |
| 20:03 | <jcy> | respect for the who... declining... |
| 20:04 | <straterra> | HoopyCat: It's to stop the fans from rushing and murdering them |
| 20:04 | <jcy> | also HoopyCat they could only afford one color |
| 20:05 | <straterra> | The players are the luckiest people on the planet right now..they arent exposed to it |
| 20:05 | <adnc> | who is Lassie? |
| 20:05 | <@jed> | !f lassie |
| 20:05 | <linbot> | jed: Lassie is a fictional collie dog character and a stage name for several dog actors. The fictional character was created by Eric Knight in a short story expanded to novel length called Lassie Come-Home. Published in 1940, the novel was filmed by MGM in 1943 as Lassie Come Home with a talented dog named Pal playing Lassie. Pal then appeared with the stage name "Lassie" in six other MGM feature films through (2 more messages) |
| 20:05 | <@jed> | rof |
| 20:05 | <@jed> | l |
| 20:05 | <adnc> | ohh |
| 20:06 | <HoopyCat> | adnc: if your linode gets stuck in a well, lassie will summon help. or, more accurately, if your kernel exits, lassie issues a boot job |
| 20:06 | <@jed> | adnc: she's an automated animal that will reboot your Linode if you shut it down on the host itself |
| 20:06 | <adnc> | ;) |
| 20:06 | <@jed> | on the s/host/Linode/ itself |
| 20:06 | <@jed> | instead of using the manager to do so |
| 20:06 | <@jed> | or if it dies. |
| 20:06 | <Yaakov> | jed: Your app is better than the Internet. |
| 20:06 | <straterra> | HoopyCat: the big circle is the air forces target designator.. |
| 20:06 | <adnc> | nice |
| 20:06 | <straterra> | Wait for the AC-130 |
| 20:06 | <@jed> | Yaakov: <3 |
| 20:06 | <Peng> | adnc: While it uses the public API for everything else, the graph stuff is a secret. |
| 20:07 | <Peng> | Although one person here figured out (the|another) way to fetch graphs... |
| 20:07 | <@mikegrb> | s/one/several// |
| 20:07 | <HoopyCat> | straterra: originally, they did have a flyover scheduled for the end of the show, but they couldn't spare enough munitions |
| 20:07 | <adnc> | peng i think so aswell, since the graphs are generated by values, not rescaled from the available images |
| 20:07 | <jcy> | is that to avoid cheating on quotas |
| 20:08 | * | Yaakov sniffs... |
| 20:08 | <Peng> | adnc: Think so? I know so. It was discussed yesterday. |
| 20:08 | <adnc> | peng but they look nice, don't they on an iphone |
| 20:08 | <@mikegrb> | cheating on quotas? |
| 20:08 | <adnc> | peng, i didn't read it. you must be right |
| 20:08 | <@mikegrb> | they'd look nicer if they were correct |
| 20:08 | <Peng> | adnc: I don't have an iPhone. Anyway, I'm missing TV! Bye! |
| 20:08 | <adnc> | peng bye |
| 20:08 | <jcy> | referring to peng's comment about the graph stuff being secret |
| 20:08 | <adnc> | mikegrb, not correct? |
| 20:09 | <@mikegrb> | compare the indicated values to the dashboard graphs |
| 20:09 | <adnc> | they look great here, just a bit scaled down, but the same as linodes web management, and that would be in my case plausible values |
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| 20:10 | <adnc> | mikegrb, i double checked, they look fine here if i compare them with my dashboard graphs |
| 20:11 | <Yaakov> | jed: The app needs Lish! |
| 20:11 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 20:11 | <HoopyCat> | there are no fans on the field, and the background behind the band looks like a matte |
| 20:11 | <amitz> | adnc: back. It seems words from me are not needed anymore :-) |
| 20:11 | <adnc> | amitz, sorry? did i miss something? |
| 20:11 | <HoopyCat> | i believe this is not actually live |
| 20:11 | <jcy> | hoopy you are so paranoid |
| 20:12 | <bob2> | spoiler: the dallas patriots won |
| 20:12 | <adnc> | the only thing i wonder is why the iphone-app says my linode is "Booting the Linode (7+ more)..." |
| 20:12 | <@jed> | adnc: 7 more jobs in the queue |
| 20:12 | <@jed> | after booting |
| 20:12 | <amitz> | adnc: ah no. I just thought someone already answer you. |
| 20:13 | <adnc> | jed i dont understand |
| 20:13 | <HoopyCat> | 20:12 *** Update caused an error: Bad Gateway: 502. Aborted. |
| 20:13 | <HoopyCat> | 20:13 *** Update caused an error: Internal Server Error: 500. Aborted. |
| 20:13 | <adnc> | amitz, thank you |
| 20:13 | <HoopyCat> | i tried tweeting about it TWICE and both times it failed. it's a coverup. |
| 20:13 | <jcy> | i should've watched the puppy bowl instead |
| 20:14 | <@Perihelion> | twirssi has failed me. |
| 20:14 | <@Perihelion> | And I'm just trying to profess my love for pizza |
| 20:14 | <adnc> | does it mean, 7 jobs still in the queue after the last boot? |
| 20:14 | <@jed> | after the job that is currently running, there are 7 more in the queue |
| 20:14 | <@jed> | is what (+x more) means |
| 20:14 | <BarkerJr> | hoopy probably thinks the chinese gymnasts in the summer olympics were underaged, too |
| 20:15 | <adnc> | jed, but where are the jobs comming from, i didn't initiate them and the jobs listed look old jobs to me |
| 20:15 | <HoopyCat> | Perihelion: they had to block twirssi because people who know what's truly going on use it |
| 20:15 | <HoopyCat> | OH MY GOD WHAT IS THAT ON PHIL SIMMS' HEAD |
| 20:15 | <tjfontaine> | OMG |
| 20:15 | <@Perihelion> | O_O |
| 20:15 | <jcy> | his headset? |
| 20:16 | <Yaakov> | tjfontaine |
| 20:16 | <Yaakov> | I LOVE YOU WITH A GREAT HUGE LOVE MAN |
| 20:16 | <HoopyCat> | jcy: his headset choked a small animal to death :-/ |
| 20:16 | <@Perihelion> | 20:16:15 *** Update caused an error: Internal Server Error: 500. Aborted. |
| 20:16 | <@Perihelion> | I was trying to say we shall not be moved |
| 20:16 | <@Perihelion> | But...apparently we shall be :< |
| 20:16 | <tjfontaine> | Yaakov: thanks, but my head hurts :/ |
| 20:17 | <adnc> | jed, thos listed jobs are old, already done jobs here, there must be something wrong with the display of the amount of open jobs |
| 20:17 | <Yaakov> | Twitter is dying. |
| 20:17 | <Yaakov> | tjfontaine: Did I do it? |
| 20:17 | <@jed> | adnc: perhaps, log out and back in and see if it goes away |
| 20:17 | <@Perihelion> | Stop killing da twitter |
| 20:17 | <adnc> | Yaakov, nice |
| 20:17 | <tjfontaine> | Yaakov: no but your were yelling :D |
| 20:17 | <adnc> | jed, still the same |
| 20:17 | <@jed> | adnc: what's your linode username? |
| 20:18 | <Yaakov> | Yelling? That wasn't yelling! You want to hear yelling!? |
| 20:18 | <adnc> | jed adnc |
| 20:18 | <tjfontaine> | Yaakov: no? |
| 20:18 | <Yaakov> | tjfontaine: OK. |
| 20:18 | <adnc> | also, it doesnt display the entered and finished dates (timestamps) from the jobs |
| 20:18 | <Yaakov> | identi.ca > Twitter |
| 20:18 | <tjfontaine> | why? |
| 20:19 | <Yaakov> | IT JUST IS HEADACHE BOY |
| 20:19 | <@array> | Yaakov > * |
| 20:19 | <@array> | <3 |
| 20:19 | <@jed> | adnc: hm. your account looks fine here, can you try closing the app, restarting it, and logging it back in? |
| 20:19 | <Yaakov> | Aw shucks... but I am not. |
| 20:19 | <Yaakov> | Thanks for the vote of confidence all the same. |
| 20:19 | <adnc> | jed, sure. i did that, but i'll do it again |
| 20:20 | <HoopyCat> | strange how all the bank ads are local rather than national |
| 20:21 | <adnc> | jed, still the same. jobs are listed. would something be different if i would use an api key? |
| 20:21 | <@jed> | no |
| 20:21 | <@jed> | you're logging in as 'adnc' in the app? |
| 20:21 | <adnc> | jed, yes |
| 20:22 | <HoopyCat> | it takes brass balls to win super bowls |
| 20:22 | <Yaakov> | It would hurt a LOT to kick a field goal with one of those. |
| 20:23 | <charlie> | the linode iphone app is awesome |
| 20:24 | <@jed> | adnc: if I run the same query against the API which that screen is, all of your jobs are finished in my response; can you take a screenshot (Home + Lock) of your jobs view, put it up on imageshack or something, and open a bug report (file a ticket) so I can have a look? |
| 20:24 | <@jed> | is your phone running in a language other than English? |
| 20:24 | <charlie> | who's the poor guy that made the other linode app though haha :P $5.99 |
| 20:24 | <adnc> | jed, of course. |
| 20:24 | <adnc> | charlie, just above you |
| 20:24 | <@jed> | [language is a gutshot][language is a gutshot] |
| 20:25 | <Yaakov> | jed: When do we get Lish in the app? |
| 20:25 | <@jed> | Yaakov: when apple pulls every SSH app from the app store |
| 20:26 | * | jed >:) |
| 20:26 | <bob2> | there are already a thousand ssh clients |
| 20:26 | <Yaakov> | I don't want an SSH client, I want integrated Lish access. |
| 20:26 | <anders1> | jed: you made the linode app? |
| 20:26 | <Yaakov> | Duh, &c. |
| 20:26 | <straterra> | I use pssh |
| 20:26 | <@jed> | anders1: correct |
| 20:26 | <straterra> | I think |
| 20:26 | <Yaakov> | Frankly, iPhone SSH is trash. |
| 20:26 | <anders1> | jed: I have a feature suggestion, push notification api through the linode api. so you can use that app for your own server notifications |
| 20:26 | <straterra> | No..thats my palm..I use some cheap, awesome ssh app from the app store |
| 20:27 | <@jed> | anders1: I investigated that during development, we didn't miss it |
| 20:27 | <Yaakov> | I can do OK with my N810, but barely. |
| 20:27 | <anders1> | ok :) |
| 20:27 | <@jed> | thank you for the suggestion :) |
| 20:28 | <Yaakov> | jed: I want to be able to run Xen on my iPhone, put that in the app. |
| 20:28 | <bob2> | kvm duh |
| 20:28 | <straterra> | jed: I want the ability for free months of linode service by clicking on ads! |
| 20:28 | <@jed> | will have to distribute ad hoc :/ |
| 20:28 | <spkitty> | jed: i want to be able to run my linode on a cluster of iphones |
| 20:28 | <spkitty> | can you do that next |
| 20:28 | <adnc> | jed, should the jobs show the initiation-date and finished date? |
| 20:28 | <@jed> | adnc: yes. |
| 20:28 | <HoopyCat> | Perihelion: twirssi is now able to tweet, it appears |
| 20:28 | <@jed> | I'm suspecting locales in your case, even though I explicitly told the date parser to ignore locales |
| 20:28 | <@jed> | is your phone running in a language other than English? |
| 20:28 | <amitz> | I want to be able to run linode on iphone. |
| 20:29 | <@jed> | or have you changed the International settings, i.e., date format, etc? |
| 20:29 | <@Perihelion> | It failed for me |
| 20:29 | <adnc> | jed, yes it is running with german language support |
| 20:29 | <@jed> | are german dates year-day-month? |
| 20:29 | <Yaakov> | Perihelion: You are fail. |
| 20:29 | <@jed> | i.e., today is 2010-07-02? |
| 20:29 | <adnc> | jed, not it is day-month-year |
| 20:30 | <@jed> | in the part of the code that parses dates from the API, I explicitly told it to ignore locale but I think I might have done so in the wrong way, based on what you're telling me |
| 20:30 | <adnc> | or even day.month.year. let me find out which one is the official separator |
| 20:30 | <@jed> | which sounds like something that should be genuinely addressed |
| 20:30 | <@Perihelion> | Yaakov: :( |
| 20:30 | <Yaakov> | Perihelion: I still love you to pieces. |
| 20:31 | <adnc> | jed, do you look for finished jobs by comparing the date, time? |
| 20:31 | <@jed> | I look for a time that isn't NULL in HOST_FINISH_DT as "completed" |
| 20:31 | <@jed> | since none of your dates are populating (but they're indeed there in the API), I'm really looking at locale |
| 20:31 | <@Perihelion> | Yaakov: </3 |
| 20:31 | <adnc> | than it would make sence, if it can not parse the date, time, than it can not know that the job is finished and shows it as open |
| 20:31 | <@jed> | exactly |
| 20:31 | <Yaakov> | Perihelion: I am wounded. |
| 20:31 | <@jed> | a "bad date" will also yield NULL |
| 20:31 | <@jed> | as in april 40th |
| 20:32 | <Yaakov> | Hey, that's my birthday! |
| 20:32 | <@Perihelion> | Yaakov: You wounded me first, sir. |
| 20:32 | <adnc> | jed, anyway, wonderfull app! |
| 20:32 | <@jed> | thanks adnc, don't forget that bug report :) |
| 20:32 | <adnc> | ohh sure |
| 20:32 | <HoopyCat> | my birthday's coming up february 30th... damn impossible to buy beer |
| 20:33 | <adnc> | jed, but how do i add images to a support ticket? |
| 20:33 | <@jed> | you can't -- put it up on imageshack or something and paste a URL into the ticket |
| 20:34 | <adnc> | ok |
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| 20:39 | <Wheel> | ho do i hide my host |
| 20:40 | <HoopyCat> | the linode complements the room; it's not free. |
| 20:40 | <HoopyCat> | Wheel: define "hide [your] host" |
| 20:40 | <bob2> | you mean 'how do I get a hostmask on oftc'? |
| 20:40 | <amitz> | Wheel: with linode manager, enter your own IP address at reverse dns entry instead of your domain name. |
| 20:40 | <adnc> | jed, the ticket has been added |
| 20:40 | <@caker> | you rock |
| 20:40 | <amitz> | ah... people seem to know better. /me returns to lurking. |
| 20:41 | <Wheel> | :p |
| 20:41 | <@jed> | adnc: wow, thanks for all the great screenshots |
| 20:41 | * | caker targets Wheel's Linode |
| 20:41 | <@jed> | this gives me a better idea of what's happening, I appreciate it |
| 20:41 | <Wheel> | just hide the host on irc :p |
| 20:42 | <@jed> | adnc: if you want to help even more, try this: |
| 20:42 | <Yaakov> | caker: Please cease and desist. |
| 20:42 | <adnc> | jed, sure |
| 20:42 | <@jed> | if you switch your phone back to English and no international support, and try the app again -- do those jobs show complete? |
| 20:42 | <@jed> | if so, I know right where that problem is |
| 20:42 | <@jed> | (and I'm surprised you're the first to report it) |
| 20:42 | <anders1> | hey, I know linode has really nice graphs etc like in the linode app or the site, but for other things... what do you guys use for monitoring? things like server logs |
| 20:42 | <@jed> | anders1: I highly recommend munin |
| 20:43 | <HoopyCat> | Wheel: well, you can remove the reverse DNS and that'll just have the IP address shown... if you have a (very) compelling reason, OFTC's cloak policy is somewhere on http://www.oftc.net |
| 20:43 | <Wheel> | not realy :D |
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| 20:44 | <sub> | I second the munin recommendation for graphs |
| 20:44 | <sub> | You'll need something else for servers logs and availability monitoring though |
| 20:44 | <amitz> | !f desist |
| 20:44 | <linbot> | amitz: zomg you broke teh interwebs! |
| 20:44 | <HoopyCat> | amitz: dude, stop doing that |
| 20:45 | <amitz> | HoopyCat: I'll fix it, I'll fix it! |
| 20:45 | * | amitz fixes the interwebs. |
| 20:45 | <notme> | Hello. Is something happened to the london linodes at approx. 23:30 UTC (2h15m ago)? It seems that my linode was not reachable, and I actually found my ssh session stalled... |
| 20:45 | <Peng> | Wheel: You are connected to the Interent. An IRC cloak will not save you. |
| 20:45 | <Wheel> | well i like linode i will sty here :D |
| 20:45 | <@caker> | notme: nothing noticed or reported |
| 20:45 | <adnc> | jed, ok. if I change the regional support the problem is then gone, dates are displayed correctly and even the joblist is highlighted with green and red colors also the status now displays an icon |
| 20:45 | <Wheel> | nice wiki and forums :D |
| 20:46 | <@jed> | adnc: thank you <3 |
| 20:46 | <@jed> | that completely narrows the problem down to one line of code |
| 20:46 | <Peng> | Wheel: And an awesome IRC channel! |
| 20:46 | <@jed> | you are the best bug reporter ever. |
| 20:46 | <HoopyCat> | jed: it doesn't work |
| 20:46 | <adnc> | jed, you are welcome |
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| 20:46 | <Wheel> | Peng: that to |
| 20:46 | <notme> | caker, ok, thank you. |
| 20:47 | <adnc> | whos idea was giving the robot the name of lassie? |
| 20:47 | <@Perihelion> | stefanie ^__________^ |
| 20:47 | <adnc> | that name sounds so innocent |
| 20:47 | <adnc> | ;) |
| 20:47 | <@Perihelion> | Thats what we want you to think |
| 20:47 | <@caker> | adnc: mine :) -- LASSIE: Linode Autonomous System Shutdown Intelligent rEbooter |
| 20:48 | <adnc> | caker, ahhh |
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| 20:48 | <adnc> | caker, that is of course something different |
| 20:48 | <adnc> | ;) |
| 20:48 | <HoopyCat> | let's all say something interesting & entertaining |
| 20:48 | <sub> | it's really cuz timmy fell down the well |
| 20:49 | <@caker> | In any right triangle, the area of the square whose side is the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares whose sides are the two legs (the two sides that meet at a right angle). |
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| 20:50 | <adnc> | caker, ohh god, pythagoras |
| 20:50 | <Yaakov> | caker: Are you a Pythagoran Cultist?! |
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| 20:50 | <Yaakov> | caker: It would explain your odd mode of dress and funny diet. |
| 20:51 | <adnc> | caker, at least you need that sentence everywhere, it is good to know! |
| 20:51 | <@jed> | In game theory, Nash equilibrium (named after John Forbes Nash, who proposed it) is a solution concept of a game involving two or more players, in which each player is assumed to know the equilibrium strategies of the other players, and no player has anything to gain by changing only his or her own strategy unilaterally. If each player has chosen a strategy and no player can benefit by changing his or her strategy while the other players keep theirs unchanged, then the curr |
| 20:51 | * | jed runs |
| 20:52 | <Peng> | Uh-uh, caker, jed and the factoid bot merged. |
| 20:52 | <Peng> | Uh-oh* |
| 20:52 | <adnc> | no poetry? |
| 20:52 | <HoopyCat> | huh, weird, that google ad moistened my eyes slightly |
| 20:52 | <@mikegrb> | is it the french one? |
| 20:53 | <BarkerJr> | yeah |
| 20:53 | <BarkerJr> | it was nice |
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| 20:53 | <@mikegrb> | it's from october |
| 20:53 | <HoopyCat> | mikegrb: ... yeah. |
| 20:53 | <@mikegrb> | <3 |
| 20:53 | <BarkerJr> | I didn't know you could search for flight numbers |
| 20:53 | <HoopyCat> | mikegrb: i don't watch television! |
| 20:53 | <bob2> | you can search for sports teams to get scores |
| 20:53 | * | mikegrb neither |
| 20:53 | <@Perihelion> | HoopyCat: Yeah that was a good ad |
| 20:53 | <jcy> | anyone know that song in the kia commercial |
| 20:53 | <BarkerJr> | google ftw |
| 20:54 | <HoopyCat> | long distance linode advice^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hlinodes in fremont |
| 20:54 | <jcy> | that was a brand new commercial |
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| 20:56 | <JoeK> | AU linodes :( |
| 20:56 | <Peng> | JoeK: Maybe we'll be lucky and Fremont will fall off the U.S. and drift down to Australia. |
| 20:56 | <JoeK> | i know, right? |
| 20:56 | <jcy> | make sure all the hippies are in fremont when it happens |
| 20:56 | <JoeK> | california is on the verge of becoming an island :P |
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| 20:57 | <Peng> | Wait, clock.fmt.he.net is there, and I don't want it to move farther away! |
| 20:57 | <jcy> | aus found a way to handle criminals, let's see how they deal w/ hippies |
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| 20:58 | <jcy> | this johnb_ guy has some kind of network failover in his house i guess |
| 20:58 | <Nivex> | bwahaha! They used dramatic chipmunk! |
| 20:58 | <Peng> | Woah, two Internet connections? |
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| 20:59 | <anders1> | impressive |
| 20:59 | <HoopyCat> | jcy: or else he's immediately between chicago and columbus and using an extremely high-gain antenna with two lobes to pirate wifi |
| 20:59 | <adnc> | jed, we thank you! |
| 20:59 | <@jed> | thank you :) |
| 21:00 | <adnc> | does linode only use linux machines? |
| 21:00 | <Yaakov> | No, they use OS X, too! |
| 21:00 | <Yaakov> | (Internally) |
| 21:00 | <anders1> | what are the linode host machines running? :x |
| 21:01 | <HoopyCat> | VMS |
| 21:01 | <Yaakov> | And jed does all his development on a C64. |
| 21:01 | <jforman> | on the blood of dead babies |
| 21:01 | <adnc> | maybe VAX ;) |
| 21:01 | <sub> | except for their extremely enterprisey 2k8 box that they use to run sharepoint for enterprisey collaboration and stuff |
| 21:01 | <adnc> | linode really works great, i don't know what there secret is, but i had some vps hosters and linode is by far the best i've seen |
| 21:02 | <amitz> | and dead kittens |
| 21:02 | <sub> | just kidding. everyone knows that linode hosts' dom0 instances are actually running in VMware VMs on top of 2k server |
| 21:02 | <tjfontaine> | linode runs on dead kittens? |
| 21:02 | <@jed> | tjfontaine: well...we've all seen that infographic, haven't we? |
| 21:02 | <@jed> | ;) |
| 21:03 | <anders1> | is it a secret? :) |
| 21:03 | <amitz> | if you buy one linode, linode kills a kitten. |
| 21:04 | <adnc> | a kitten? |
| 21:04 | <adnc> | ohh a cat? |
| 21:04 | <adnc> | amitz, you are joking |
| 21:04 | <BarkerJr> | every time a linode is cancelled, a kitten gets its wings |
| 21:04 | <Battousai> | a cute innocent baby cat |
| 21:04 | <amitz> | adnc: hopefully.. :-p |
| 21:04 | <Yaakov> | No, only baby cats that have done something bad. |
| 21:05 | <sub> | it's for a good cause, the kittens are incinerated and the energy is used to power the datacenter |
| 21:05 | <adnc> | does linode have customers like me from outside europe? or manly from the usa? |
| 21:05 | <amitz> | ah, the more correct sentence: "everytime you buy a linode, god/linode kills a kitten" |
| 21:05 | <amitz> | ^^adnc, google it. |
| 21:06 | <adnc> | google? |
| 21:06 | <jcy> | we're all manly in the usa |
| 21:06 | <adnc> | how should google know this |
| 21:06 | <tacticus> | adnc: I'm from .au |
| 21:06 | <@jed> | adnc: we're very internationally diverse -- don't overthink the bug, it's just an oversight on my part :) |
| 21:06 | <ajmitch_> | google knows all |
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| 21:06 | <adnc> | jed, not related to you. i asked my self in terms of linode usability in europe. not realted to the iphone app |
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| 21:07 | <@jed> | ah, I saw a pattern |
| 21:07 | <@jed> | don't mind me! |
| 21:07 | <adnc> | i was just curious |
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| 21:07 | <amitz> | adnc: if you google the exact phrase without quote, the info is on the second main result. |
| 21:08 | <adnc> | amitz, which phrase? |
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| 21:08 | <BarkerJr> | everytime you buy a linode, god/linode kills a kitten |
| 21:09 | <amitz> | as BarkerJr said above. |
| 21:10 | <sub> | Results 1 - 10 of about 18,200 for "people still use slackware?" |
| 21:10 | <BarkerJr> | amitz: it's the #1 result for me |
| 21:11 | <amitz> | BarkerJr: oh? hmm local adjustment I guess. I use local google. |
| 21:12 | <BarkerJr> | I assume you're refering to the wp result |
| 21:12 | <BarkerJr> | result #2 is the centos page :P |
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| 21:13 | <amitz> | BarkerJr: ooh, for me, the 1st result is actually linode wiki on CentOS. http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/CentOS |
| 21:13 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 21:13 | <BarkerJr> | no idea why, lol |
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| 21:15 | <amitz> | I'd guess it's because more people here who use the local google click on linode wiki instead of the wikipedia entry. But I guess we'll never know :-p |
| 21:16 | <BarkerJr> | I still wanna know who bo,bed google to make the word kittens go to centos |
| 21:16 | <amitz> | the linode wiki has the phrases: Linode, buy, kill, and "every time you". |
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| 21:17 | <HoopyCat> | every time you kill, buy a linode |
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| 21:17 | <amitz> | kill as in linux kill command. Buy as in buy a certificate. "Every time you" as in "every time you wish to host bla bla". |
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| 21:18 | <BarkerJr> | where are tha kittens! |
| 21:19 | <amitz> | BarkerJr: oh, "if test $running = yes; then echo "Stopping Dovecot" kill `cat ....." |
| 21:19 | <BarkerJr> | I hate google |
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| 21:20 | <BarkerJr> | we use this IBM product called JRules at work, and whenever I search for jrules info, google returns lots of legal results (a.k.a. for "laws") |
| 21:20 | <amitz> | http://www.google.co.id/search?q=everytime+you+buy+a+linode,+god/linode+kills+a+kitten |
| 21:21 | <amitz> | ah, so google sometimes takes too much unintended initiative.. |
| 21:25 | <amitz> | s/unintended/<a word>/ |
| 21:25 | <charzero> | Is it possible to bring a new linode up, migrate the services from an existing one, and then take the old one down and move the old IP to the new one? |
| 21:26 | <@jed> | yes, there is a swap IP utility on the "Settings & Utilities" page |
| 21:26 | <@jed> | (or maybe Network, that was a quick guess) |
| 21:26 | <@jed> | it's in the lower-right, whichever tab it's on |
| 21:26 | <charzero> | Awesome. |
| 21:26 | <@jed> | you'll have to reboot a Linode after you make any IP-related changes, though |
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| 21:27 | <charzero> | If I have 2 for only a day, to they prorate the cost? |
| 21:27 | <BarkerJr> | rounded up to the next day |
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| 21:30 | <charzero> | I was thinking of switching to a different provider, but the Linode Manager does _everything_. I don't want to give it up. |
| 21:32 | <HoopyCat> | i'd advise not letting it down, either |
| 21:32 | <jotto> | i know there is no room in fremont, but does that preclude an existing linode in fremont from being downsized? |
| 21:33 | <charzero> | HoopyCat: bad. |
| 21:33 | <Nivex> | jotto: there has to be one available of the size you are going to |
| 21:33 | <Nivex> | !avail-fremont |
| 21:33 | <linbot> | Nivex: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0, Fremont2880 - 0, Fremont5760 - 0 |
| 21:33 | <jcy> | is fremont so pop. b/c of the asians |
| 21:33 | <anders1> | is there some way to get the bandwidth usage for a linode in the API? |
| 21:33 | <HoopyCat> | jotto: i'd advise opening a ticket for the migration -- they can stalk better than you can :-) |
| 21:34 | <anders1> | there used to be a page accessible from the linode itself, but it's gone now (i just get "DENIED") |
| 21:34 | <jotto> | ahh ok, thanks guys |
| 21:34 | <anders1> | http://www.linode.com/api/?method=linode.list only lists the BW allowable amount, not the total |
| 21:34 | <HoopyCat> | anders1: hmm, you're using the linode's lish username for that? that page works for me as of ~15 minutes ago |
| 21:34 | <HoopyCat> | on a linode created... yesterday |
| 21:34 | <anders1> | oh... linode LISH username okay :) |
| 21:34 | <BarkerJr> | it's always possible that there are nodes avail in fremont |
| 21:35 | <BarkerJr> | when a node is deleted, it's not immediately available again |
| 21:35 | <purrdeta> | why is everyone so obsessed with fremont? |
| 21:35 | <anders1> | gotcha HoopyCat. that worked! |
| 21:35 | <jcy> | i think it's b/c the closest one to asia? |
| 21:35 | <jcy> | i'm just guessing |
| 21:35 | <HoopyCat> | purrdeta: it's advantageous for people west coasty and beyond |
| 21:35 | <BarkerJr> | fremont is the farthest from jersey if you're doing a geographic balancer |
| 21:35 | <purrdeta> | I suppose. Lets just get an asian DC :P. |
| 21:36 | <Peng> | jcy: What makes you think Fremont is popular? |
| 21:36 | <HoopyCat> | i'm not questioning it; it's got the highest RTTs of any of the five from here, but that probably means it's big in japan |
| 21:36 | <amitz> | s/fremont/london :-D |
| 21:36 | <jotto> | i like fremont because its got awesome ping to twitter and facebook |
| 21:36 | <jotto> | so great for facebook apps |
| 21:36 | <Peng> | purrdeta: For Asia in general, California is the best location. For specific countries, local data centers work, though. |
| 21:36 | <HoopyCat> | yeah, then you have the twitter/facebook people who need to be close to the fart box |
| 21:37 | <amitz> | Peng: yeah, I just found out that quite enough people from my country know about linode. Too bad international bandwidth sucks. |
| 21:37 | * | ajmitch_ doesn't expect to see linode setting up in NZ anytime soon though |
| 21:38 | <Yaakov> | !mtr-christchurch |
| 21:39 | <Peng> | Ugh, "christchuch1.linode.com" would be a total pain to type. |
| 21:39 | <Peng> | See? I even misspelled it. |
| 21:39 | <ajmitch_> | go for something simple like dunedin then |
| 21:40 | <amitz> | aaaaaaaaaaaa.linode.com is simple enough. Just one letter typed repeatedly. |
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| 21:40 | <Peng> | amitz: Try getting the exact count correct, though. ;-) |
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| 21:41 | <amitz> | Peng: that is an insult to fellow linoders! You mean we can't count?! |
| 21:41 | <HoopyCat> | 41410455db154936fade8006d5158141.linode.com |
| 21:42 | <Peng> | amitz: "christchurch" is a lot easier to type than "aaaaaaaaaaaa". |
| 21:42 | <@jed> | theplacewheretheyshotlordoftherings100.linode.com |
| 21:42 | <amitz> | HoopyCat: good thinking, to make people less likely to accidentaly typed that when they actually want to go somewhere else! |
| 21:42 | * | jed runs |
| 21:42 | <ajmitch_> | jed: great, can I migrate my linode there please? |
| 21:43 | <@jed> | ajmitch_: there's a line of people wearing foam ears |
| 21:43 | <Yaakov> | jed: That's just mikegrb. |
| 21:47 | <HoopyCat> | haven't heard that many new orleans localities mentioned in one sentence since... uhh... the hurricane |
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| 21:48 | <amitz> | Peng: yeah, it seems :-p |
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| 21:51 | <thegodlikehobo> | colts lost D: |
| 21:51 | <amitz> | Cutie with foam ears. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chobites_volume_1_cover.jpg :-p |
| 21:51 | * | thegodlikehobo needs a hug |
| 21:51 | * | amitz hugs thegodlikehobo |
| 21:51 | <Peng> | "Chobites"? People suck at naming files on Wikipedia... |
| 21:52 | <Peng> | Actually, "Chobites" is kind of funny. Is that, like, getting bitten by a Chobit? |
| 21:52 | <amitz> | while crawling his hand into thegodlikehobo's pocket. |
| 21:52 | <@jed> | anybody have jquery experience? |
| 21:52 | * | thegodlikehobo is too sad to care |
| 21:52 | <Peng> | jed: I do, but I doubt I know anything useful. |
| 21:52 | <@jed> | if I do multiple $.ajax calls, what's the easiest way to keep track of each, if I have them all going to the same success/failure functions? |
| 21:52 | <@jed> | I'm looking for like, "tag", and not seeing it |
| 21:53 | <Peng> | Yeah, I don't know that. |
| 21:53 | <amitz> | Peng: well, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobits . You might like the theme, geek like. About advance AI. |
| 21:53 | <@jed> | oh, I have an idea, thanks though |
| 21:53 | <HoopyCat> | drew brees' son being mezmerized by the boom mic ftw |
| 21:53 | * | amitz hugs thegodlikehobo again, and put back the wallet. |
| 21:54 | <Peng> | amitz: I know. I really like Chobits, despite the crazy ending. |
| 21:54 | <Peng> | Cute artwork. :) |
| 21:54 | <Yaakov> | Manga is for the losers. |
| 21:54 | <Peng> | Yaakov: I am a loser. |
| 21:54 | <HoopyCat> | caker: when are we getting those new intel processors with the automatic performance boosting thing? |
| 21:54 | <Yaakov> | Oh yes. |
| 21:54 | <Peng> | Yaakov: So it fits, no? Now I just need to get into D&D and Star Wars... |
| 21:54 | <HoopyCat> | and the bum-bum-bum-bum-bummm chorus? |
| 21:55 | <amitz> | Yes, fellow losers! :-D |
| 21:55 | <Yaakov> | Peng, also you need to get a Star Trek uniform. |
| 21:55 | <Peng> | Yaakov: Heyy, Freema Agyeman has a Star Trek uniform. I need something dorkier. Sailor Moon? |
| 21:56 | <Yaakov> | Peng: I now need to poke my mind's eye out. |
| 21:56 | * | HoopyCat thinks of bleach |
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| 21:57 | <amitz> | Peng: I like the author (CLAMP) and many of their works. I especially like xxxHolic, it digs into some simple topic like "motivation" very deep. |
| 21:57 | <Yaakov> | I was supposed to go to bed about 30 minutes ago. |
| 21:57 | <Yaakov> | I need to do that. |
| 21:57 | <Yaakov> | amitz: You don't have a Sailor Moon costume, do you? |
| 21:57 | <Peng> | amitz: Aside from Chobits, I haven't read much CLAMP. Too much continuity, dunno where to start. |
| 21:57 | <Yaakov> | amitz: On second thought, don't answer that! |
| 21:58 | <amitz> | Yaakov: (un)fortunately no. <-- already typed that :-D |
| 21:58 | <Peng> | Hmm, maybe a Plug Suit? Would that be better or worse than Sailor Moon? |
| 21:58 | <amitz> | Yaakov: you underestimate the vast variety and depth of manga. |
| 21:58 | <Yaakov> | I know that HoopyCat has a Sailor Moon costume for his Roomba. |
| 21:59 | <amitz> | Peng: which plug suits? Evangelion or Bubblegum Crisis ;-) |
| 21:59 | <warewolf> | haha plug suit |
| 21:59 | <warewolf> | eva++ |
| 21:59 | <Peng> | amitz: Sorry, Eva. Never seen Bubblegum Crisis. |
| 22:00 | <Peng> | Tiffany Grant has a plug suit... |
| 22:01 | <Peng> | Did I/we just kill #linode? |
| 22:01 | <Peng> | Quick, somebody complain about IPv6! |
| 22:02 | <BarkerJr> | I wan ipv8 |
| 22:02 | <HoopyCat> | the countries with the worst IPv6 deployments have the most super bowl winners |
| 22:02 | <amitz> | Peng: I bet by the time persocon becomes common, we have no choice but to adopt ipv6 :-p |
| 22:02 | <Peng> | IPv8 jokes are so 2009. We're at at least IPv10 now. |
| 22:03 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 22:03 | <BarkerJr> | lol cat |
| 22:05 | <BarkerJr> | I have ipv6 on all my servers, anyway *shrugs* |
| 22:05 | <Yaakov> | I am doing this a step at a time. I am using IPv5 for now. |
| 22:06 | <Peng> | I'm planning to work on IPv5.2a in 2011. |
| 22:07 | <Nivex> | less complaining, more adopting |
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| 22:09 | <anders1> | i wish i understood linux networking better, then i would probably use ipv6. i set up a tunnel using tunnelbroker (who are awesome) but i never really "got it", so i disabled it |
| 22:09 | <Peng> | Now, if they bundled IPv6 with persocoms, that would increase adoption... |
| 22:09 | <Peng> | anders1: In what way didn't you "get it"? |
| 22:09 | <anders1> | but things like shorewall and shorewall6 help |
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| 22:10 | * | nb looks forward to the day the linode gives us native ipv6 |
| 22:10 | * | nb hopes it is soon since i know HE supplies it |
| 22:10 | <anders1> | well. first of all all my traffic went through the tunnel point to point address, which is not recommended |
| 22:11 | <anders1> | then a few days ago i realized all you had to do was add another ip to the same interface (i was used to eth0:0 etc for ipv4... maybe the same thing works on ipv6 as well, no clue) |
| 22:11 | <Nivex> | nb: unfortunately HE isn't in all the datacenters |
| 22:11 | <anders1> | stuff like that |
| 22:11 | <nb> | Nivex, yeah |
| 22:11 | <Nivex> | anders1: sounds like you're learning just fine. Keep at it! |
| 22:11 | <anders1> | also i can't even try it from home as my router doesn't forward protocol.. 41 i think it is |
| 22:11 | <nb> | HE is only in fremont |
| 22:11 | <Peng> | anders1: Yeah, 41. |
| 22:11 | <nb> | iirc |
| 22:11 | <BarkerJr> | nb: we don't need another incentive to use fremont :P |
| 22:11 | <anders1> | Nivex yeah some day i will go at it again |
| 22:11 | <Peng> | Fremont is the only of Linode's data centers run by HE. |
| 22:12 | <Peng> | https://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Network |
| 22:12 | * | nb likes fremont :) |
| 22:12 | <nb> | at least if you tunnel to the HE fremont tunnelserver it's really really close |
| 22:12 | <jtsage> | anders1- miredo (teredo) - tunneling for those of us stuck behind old / crappy routers |
| 22:12 | * | nb thinks it is in fremont2 and we are in fremont1 |
| 22:12 | <anders1> | jtsage: yeah i know, never worked for me unfortunately :( |
| 22:12 | <BarkerJr> | and the 6to4 server is right there, too |
| 22:13 | <sub> | I'm in Jersey but it's because my clients and I are all just a few states over |
| 22:13 | <Peng> | nb: HE has tunnel servers in Dallas and London too. |
| 22:13 | <nb> | oh |
| 22:13 | <nb> | yeah, i had them set up when i had a london linode |
| 22:13 | <nb> | seemed to work well |
| 22:13 | <nb> | never tried dalla |
| 22:13 | <Peng> | nb: Their closest tunnel server to Newark might be a few ms away. Atlanta is worse, IIRC. |
| 22:13 | <nb> | dallas |
| 22:14 | <Peng> | In Dallas and London it's not, like, they're in the same building, but they're still basically instant. |
| 22:14 | <nb> | i think when i was in newark i used ashburn, va |
| 22:14 | <Peng> | nb: New York City would be better. |
| 22:14 | <nb> | oh |
| 22:14 | <Nivex> | indeed, nyc is only about 1ms away from my newark node |
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| 22:15 | <Nivex> | I wish time warner didn't haul all he.net traffic to san jose. ashburn really isn't that far from me |
| 22:15 | <Peng> | !mtr-newark 209.51.161.14 |
| 22:15 | <linbot> | Peng: [mtr] 209.51.161.14: 6 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 2.7ms |
| 22:16 | <jtsage> | wow. i'm sort of impressed... http://twitter.com/PGHtransit |
| 22:16 | <Peng> | !mtr-dallas 216.218.224.42 |
| 22:16 | <linbot> | Peng: [mtr] 216.218.224.42: 6 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 0.6ms |
| 22:16 | <Peng> | !mtr-london 216.66.80.26 |
| 22:16 | <linbot> | Peng: (101, 'Network is unreachable') |
| 22:16 | * | nb lives in southern indiana and it goes via ameritech/sbc to chicago, then to san jose (he) |
| 22:16 | <Peng> | Eep. |
| 22:16 | <Peng> | Well, London is about as good as Dalals. |
| 22:16 | * | nb assumes eqxchil is chicago |
| 22:17 | <nb> | eqchil i mean |
| 22:17 | <Nivex> | nb: time warner too? |
| 22:17 | <nb> | Nivex, AT&T DSL |
| 22:17 | <anders1> | !mtr-newark www.dix.dk |
| 22:18 | <linbot> | anders1: [mtr] www.dix.dk: 17 hops, vhostip.hugin6.webhotel.net.: 20.0%/92.9ms |
| 22:18 | <nb> | my routing actually seems sensible i think, chicago probably is about the nearest major backbone site |
| 22:18 | <nb> | the interesting part was when i had a slice in St. Louis, it went up to chicago, then back down to STL |
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| 22:19 | <tacticus> | !mtr 131.170.161.135 |
| 22:19 | <linbot> | mtr combines the functionality of traceroute and ping into one easy to use tool, and the output can be useful for determining where the source of a problem is. It can be downloaded from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows. MTR summaries can be retrieved in-channel using the command !mtr-CITY where CITY is fremont, atlanta, newark, dallas or london. |
| 22:19 | <tjfontaine> | 2in1 |
| 22:20 | <nb> | !mtr-london 75.16.239.254 |
| 22:20 | <bobcharlie> | do any of the linode hosts have native ip6 connectivity? |
| 22:20 | <linbot> | nb: (101, 'Network is unreachable') |
| 22:20 | <nb> | bobcharlie, no |
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| 22:20 | <bob2> | they're all quite close to free tunnelbrokers, though |
| 22:23 | <anders1> | !help |
| 22:23 | <linbot> | anders1: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 22:25 | <anders1> | !ntfs |
| 22:26 | <Peng> | 'cept for Atlanta. Atlanta isn't super-close. |
| 22:26 | <Peng> | !mtr-atlanta 216.66.22.2 |
| 22:26 | <linbot> | Peng: unable to launch mtr from atlanta: princess in another castle (0xBEEF) |
| 22:26 | <bss> | :o |
| 22:26 | <Peng> | \o/ |
| 22:26 | <Nivex> | o.O |
| 22:26 | <tjfontaine> | pwned |
| 22:26 | <Peng> | !help mtr-atlanta |
| 22:26 | <linbot> | Peng: (mtratlanta <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title http://rocwiki.org/wiki/cgi/mtr.cgi?target_host=$1". |
| 22:26 | <Peng> | rocwiki.org...is that HoopyCat? |
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| 22:27 | <tjfontaine> | !mtr-atlanta 216.66.22.2 |
| 22:27 | <linbot> | tjfontaine: unable to launch mtr from atlanta: princess in another castle (0xBEEF) |
| 22:27 | <tjfontaine> | cry |
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| 22:28 | <path> | HoopyCat moved rocwiki from atlanta to newark. hence the mtr-atlanta thing isn't too usable at the moment |
| 22:28 | <tjfontaine> | heh |
| 22:28 | <path> | well, probably usable but not useful |
| 22:28 | <Peng> | I guess none of us love Atlanta. |
| 22:29 | <Nivex> | close atlanta and use the proceeds to get more fremonts :) |
| 22:29 | <jforman> | Nivex: dont close atlanta, i kinda like my node there, it's damn fast :) |
| 22:29 | <bob2> | atlanta has the advantage of unlimited coke for cooling |
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| 22:29 | * | nb doesn't like atlanta, they filter irc ports |
| 22:30 | <tjfontaine> | in bound |
| 22:30 | <Peng> | Ah, then we should get jforman to run the mtr script. :) |
| 22:31 | <Nivex> | !urmom |
| 22:31 | <linbot> | Nivex: Yo momma is sluttier than a Vulcan in pon farr (911:0/0) [mromu] |
| 22:32 | <tjfontaine> | Peng: paranoia alert |
| 22:32 | <thegodlikehobo> | ha. |
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| 22:32 | <Nivex> | i.. really don't know what to make of that |
| 22:32 | <thegodlikehobo> | Nivex: pff, aren't you familiar with pon farr? slacking on your Vulcan culture studies i see. |
| 22:32 | <Peng> | tjfontaine: What, port-scan guy? |
| 22:33 | <nb> | tjfontaine, oh, they don't filter outgoing? |
| 22:33 | <tjfontaine> | nb: not anymore no |
| 22:33 | <tjfontaine> | Peng: yes |
| 22:33 | <Nivex> | thegodlikehobo: I am familiar with the reference. |
| 22:33 | <nb> | that wouldn't be so bad then |
| 22:33 | <Peng> | tjfontaine: :> |
| 22:33 | <nb> | unless someone wanted to run an ircd |
| 22:33 | <Nivex> | thegodlikehobo: that particular urmom was just kinda out there |
| 22:34 | <nb> | !urmom vote up 911 |
| 22:34 | <linbot> | nb: Voted up 911 [murmo] |
| 22:35 | <HoopyCat> | and indeed, rocwiki.org moved from atlanta to newark; i remembered to disable mtr-atlanta at the last moment to avoid wtf scenarios :-) |
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| 22:41 | <Peng> | tjfontaine: Do you have any Atlanta nodes to run !mtr-atlanta on? |
| 22:41 | <tjfontaine> | not at the moment no |
| 22:41 | <Peng> | :( |
| 22:42 | <@jed> | phil does for classhalper |
| 22:42 | <Peng> | Ah. :D |
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| 22:42 | <Peng> | You could put it on atlanta1 too. |
| 22:42 | <tjfontaine> | nah |
| 22:43 | <Peng> | I just have a Dallas node, so I'm no help. :( |
| 22:43 | <Peng> | !help mtr-dallas |
| 22:43 | <linbot> | Peng: (mtrdallas <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "web title http://xm.atxconsulting.com/cgi-bin/mtr.cgi?target_host=$1". |
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| 22:49 | <amitz> | bored |
| 22:49 | <Seyer-ve> | hi everybody |
| 22:49 | <amitz> | hey, how can we help? |
| 22:50 | <Seyer-ve> | I need to configure mysql on a multiples instances |
| 22:50 | <bob2> | why? |
| 22:51 | <Seyer-ve> | I need to run two instances of mysql on one server |
| 22:51 | <bob2> | /why/ |
| 22:51 | <bob2> | why not multiple dbs in one instance? |
| 22:52 | <HoopyCat> | Seyer-ve: so you have one server, and you want to run two distinct and unrelated copies of mysql on it? hmm |
| 22:52 | <Seyer-ve> | one for production and one for testins unstable application |
| 22:52 | <@caker> | http://webdesign.about.com/od/awards/l/bl-rc10-vote-linux-host.htm#vote <-- VOTE! |
| 22:52 | <bob2> | don't grant the unstable application access to the prod dbs |
| 22:53 | <bob2> | wow, about.com still exists |
| 22:53 | <synapt> | that surprises you? |
| 22:53 | <bob2> | yes |
| 22:54 | <synapt> | its one of the top 100 sites on the web, that thing ain't ever gonna die |
| 22:54 | <HoopyCat> | Seyer-ve: you can do that with mysql's access controls; i haven't thought about running two copies of mysql on the same server, but it would probably require some rather considerable adjustments to the stable mysql server |
| 22:54 | <Nivex> | why are the two top vote getters on that poll places I've never heard of before? |
| 22:54 | <bob2> | the debuntu packages explicitly don't support it |
| 22:56 | <Seyer-ve> | se this http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?79,27,85 |
| 22:56 | <sub> | because about.com started taking votes in '92, lulz |
| 22:56 | <@jed> | pssst: you can vote more than once |
| 22:57 | <bob2> | Seyer-ve: if you want that much isolation, maybe you want a testing chroot? |
| 22:57 | <Peng> | Nivex: I've heard of Host Gator. |
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| 22:57 | <Peng> | Nivex: Not ICDSoft or Webserve (how generic), though. |
| 22:57 | <@caker> | they eat other hosts for breakfast |
| 22:57 | <jtsage> | Nivex, Peng - same. just checked out both. there are pricey |
| 22:57 | <jtsage> | er, they are pricey even |
| 22:58 | <Seyer-ve> | could use a chroot environment |
| 22:58 | <bob2> | (assuming your thing doesn't need to run as root) |
| 22:59 | <Peng> | At least Linode and Slicehost are in the top 5. :) |
| 22:59 | <Seyer-ve> | some guide about it? |
| 22:59 | <Peng> | Though it's almost worse to lose to some shared host than to be completely ignored... :P |
| 22:59 | <bob2> | where does slicehost host? |
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| 23:00 | <bob2> | Seyer-ve: what os? |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | if it's debian or ubuntu, it is easy |
| 23:00 | <Peng> | bob2: Their DFW data center is Rackspace (since Rackspace bought them). Dunno about STL. I've heard the name, but... |
| 23:00 | <bob2> | oh, IN THE CLOUD, then |
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| 23:01 | <Seyer-ve> | in Debian |
| 23:01 | <HoopyCat> | Seyer-ve: my major concern with running multiple database engines is system resources, especially memory... if you're worried about your unstable application going crazy and producing a lot of database traffic, you may well be in worse shape with two on the same box than you would with just one mysql |
| 23:01 | <Peng> | traceroute just goes Level 3 -> Slicehost without any data center hops in between. |
| 23:02 | <Seyer-ve> | mmm in a same box? |
| 23:02 | <Peng> | The Bandwidth Exchange Building and Datotel in the Globe Building, apparently: http://wiki.slicehost.com/doku.php?id=slicehost_datacenters |
| 23:02 | <Peng> | If that's what you were asking. :D |
| 23:05 | <HoopyCat> | Seyer-ve: box == server... two mysql instances on the same server will use considerably more memory than just one |
| 23:06 | <sub> | would you say... twice as much memory? ;) |
| 23:07 | <Seyer-ve> | the memory is not a problem for me, need run a other process for a testing unstables aplicattion that could bring down the service |
| 23:07 | <HoopyCat> | sub: no, i wouldn't :-) |
| 23:07 | <bob2> | bring down how? |
| 23:07 | <HoopyCat> | sub: may be more, may be less, but twice is a decent working number i suppose |
| 23:07 | <Seyer-ve> | I do not want to affect my first instance of the service |
| 23:08 | <Peng> | jtsage: Something about teens from hell is on now. And Deep Space is on again in 2 hours. Ha! |
| 23:08 | <Seyer-ve> | bring down by a bad Store procedure for example |
| 23:09 | <@jed> | psst, you aren't voting fast enough |
| 23:09 | <jtsage> | nice. i'm actually destroying brain cells with "Undercover Boss" atm |
| 23:09 | <Seyer-ve> | It happened to me |
| 23:09 | <@jed> | jtsage: is that interesting? I debated it |
| 23:09 | <HoopyCat> | Seyer-ve: i would highly recommend procuring an additional linode for the duration of your testing; almost anything (short of a major mysql bug) that will take down the production service in the event of a test application problem would be (at best) equally likely with your current plan |
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| 23:10 | <jtsage> | it's a bit extream makeover right now. but not bad. i wanna see next weeks - undercover at hooters - the previews have shown a manager that is a real "winner"... |
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| 23:10 | <Seyer-ve> | I'll take into account |
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| 23:11 | <Seyer-ve> | thank all |
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| 23:16 | <amitz> | ooh, interesting premise: undercover boss |
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| 23:17 | <bss> | that first episode was pretty good |
| 23:17 | <bss> | kind of like extreme makeover + dirty jobs - the dirty |
| 23:18 | <Peng> | Ah, there was just an ad for Deep Space! :D |
| 23:18 | <jtsage> | bss - overall, i'd recommend it. doesn't have the brilliance of mike rowe, but i think i can get past that. |
| 23:18 | <bss> | yeah |
| 23:19 | <@jed> | mike rowe++ |
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| 23:20 | <jtsage> | Peng - oh, this movie. this one wasn't half bad actually. |
| 23:22 | <@jed> | yes |
| 23:22 | <bss> | k. denyhosts caught one |
| 23:23 | <bss> | i assume you want logs? |
| 23:23 | <@jed> | yes |
| 23:23 | <amitz> | I'd bet that they won't air many of the more embarassing "Undercover boss". It's a pity. |
| 23:24 | <amitz> | Perhaps "mystery employee" or something along that line is more interesting. |
| 23:25 | <bss> | sent |
| 23:26 | <amitz> | in case some of you don't know what I'm referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_shopping |
| 23:26 | <stefanie> | Law & Order ftw |
| 23:27 | <HoopyCat> | sleepmode inhibit disable == true |
| 23:27 | <jtsage> | amitz- I worked at taco bell for a while as a shift manager - we used to mystery shop other stores / markets all the time to check speed / quality of service, etc. it was a good way to kill an hour or two |
| 23:28 | <mwalling> | Perihelion / HoopyCat: whats wrong with twirssi? |
| 23:28 | <@Perihelion> | It was failing at tweeting |
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| 23:28 | <amitz> | jtsage: ooh, and free food! :-p |
| 23:30 | <jtsage> | yeah, but you'd be suprised how little you want to eat that crap after making it for other people all day. (that said, i still eat that crap all the time...) |
| 23:31 | <Peng> | Just saw an ad saying Stargate Universe comes out on DVD tomorrow (the 9th). How useful. |
| 23:33 | <amitz> | jtsage: oh, I heard about that too. How you can bring home some food unsold and you'll end up hating them after a period of time. |
| 23:34 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Migration emergency - clocks ticking! in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5166>; |
| 23:34 | <jtsage> | when i was there, we also had an "allowance" for food during our shifts (i forget how much it was - enough for a meal). dunno what the policy is now. they probably make you pay these days |
| 23:36 | <stefanie> | McDonald's made reg. employees pay for meal, and then in Nov. last year, they changed it so we could get free meals as long as they were under $6.00 |
| 23:36 | <stefanie> | they also made us use the child size cups |
| 23:36 | <Peng> | How much does $6 get you at McDonald's? |
| 23:36 | <amitz> | interesting. How about the left over policy? Do you have to destroy it or you just throw it away? |
| 23:36 | <mwalling> | Perihelion: do you identica? |
| 23:37 | <mwalling> | yes. i verbed identica |
| 23:37 | <jtsage> | thats a little better. dunno, i used to see and work with the food cost sheets at tbell. the price they were charging vs. what it actually cost was rediculous. they wern't going to lose anything letting on-shift employees eat free |
| 23:37 | <@jed> | mm taco bell |
| 23:37 | <stefanie> | Peng:depends if you worked in the mornings, and if not depended how good you were with the dollar menu |
| 23:38 | <amitz> | jed: the only fast food that opens till 2.30AM, last time I knew. |
| 23:38 | <jtsage> | i can see where they are coming from on the cups though - that is by far the most expensive part of the drink :) |
| 23:38 | <mwalling> | cracker barrel gives you 50% for meals during shift, 20% off shift (unless you were a PAR4, then you got 35%) |
| 23:38 | <stefanie> | They also down-sized the employees from small cups to the child size cups |
| 23:38 | * | mwalling glares at his wife |
| 23:38 | <stefanie> | which sucked |
| 23:38 | <mwalling> | stefanie: what if you used your own cup? |
| 23:38 | <mwalling> | :) |
| 23:38 | <amitz> | jtsage: ahahaha. Yet they can cut a lot if they use a less safe styrofoam, or so I heard. |
| 23:39 | <amitz> | Peng: ..where? |
| 23:39 | <stefanie> | where I worked in WA. the morning managers didn't care, it was the afternoon managers who were picky |
| 23:40 | <jtsage> | well, i don't recall exact prices, but i do know that a box of sode made like 300 smalls or something like that - and that was the expensive part, after the cups. really, charging the $1+ they do is just highway robbery. at least with a 20oz or 1liter from the gas station you get a nifty resealable plastic bottle too |
| 23:40 | <amitz> | jtsage: specifically, there are styrofoams that break down when heated. |
| 23:41 | <Pryon> | Are there styrofoams that *don't* break down when heated? |
| 23:42 | <amitz> | Pryon: ...I believe there are. |
| 23:42 | <Peng> | Everything breaks down if you heat it enough. :D |
| 23:42 | <mwalling> | jtsage: assuming McDs gets the same baginabox as Coke gives MortalSouls, they were $50 in 2005 |
| 23:43 | <jtsage> | sounds about right |
| 23:43 | <amitz> | Peng: well.. yeah :-p |
| 23:43 | * | mwalling did purchasing at a pizza shack |
| 23:43 | <stefanie> | yep we had a the bag in box. |
| 23:43 | <mwalling> | anyone else having iTMS issues? |
| 23:44 | <mwalling> | it deauthorized my computer and i cant reauthorize it (error -42408) |
| 23:44 | <@Perihelion> | mwalling: No I do not :< |
| 23:44 | <Battousai> | they caught you stealing |
| 23:44 | <Battousai> | after having paid |
| 23:44 | <stefanie> | I worked drive-thru from six am until around two so I just started bring my own coffee in the morning, and had a water bottle for the afternoon |
| 23:44 | <mwalling> | Perihelion: k. i have some extra branches that zigdon hasnt merged back into mainline that are identica friendly |
| 23:45 | <mwalling> | stefanie: yeah, because if you poured yourself some coffee at 6 and put it in the snow bank, it still wouldnt be drinkable by 2 |
| 23:46 | <stefanie> | McDonald |
| 23:46 | <Pryon> | eieio |
| 23:46 | <stefanie> | McDonald's coffee could melt paint |
| 23:46 | <mwalling> | and on his farm he had urmom |
| 23:46 | * | mwalling gestures at Pryon |
| 23:46 | <Pryon> | with at mom-mom here and a mom-mom there |
| 23:47 | <Pryon> | oh. I skipped the corus |
| 23:47 | <Pryon> | s/co/cho/ |
| 23:47 | <Pryon> | eieio |
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| 23:48 | <mwalling> | here a mom, there a mom |
| 23:48 | <Pryon> | everywhere a urmom |
| 23:49 | <amitz> | Pryon: oh, what I was saying was "heated as intended of course". |
| 23:49 | <Pryon> | Larry Ellison should be reincarnated as a cockroach |
| 23:49 | <@pparadis> | !urmom |
| 23:49 | <linbot> | pparadis: Yo momma's so old, Debian added her to the stable repository! (732:15/0) [mrmou] |
| 23:49 | <Pryon> | amitz: that's no fun! :-) |
| 23:49 | <@Perihelion> | ! |
| 23:49 | <@pparadis> | !urmom vote up 732 |
| 23:49 | <linbot> | pparadis: Voted up 732 [ruomm] |
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| 23:51 | <mwalling> | also, WHODAT!!!!! |
| 23:51 | <mwalling> | sorry, forgot to mention that here |
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| 23:52 | <mwalling> | i swear, you could have heard us shouting a quarter mile away when he ran back that interception |
| 23:52 | <mwalling> | (did i mention that my firedepartment are saints fans?) |
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| 23:55 | <Pryon> | mwalling: don't you live in the NE? |
| 23:55 | <@jed> | I grew up in Detroit, and boy was I not a Lions fan |
| 23:55 | <mwalling> | Pryon: villiage outside schenectady, NY |
| 23:55 | <@jed> | geographical location != team |
| 23:55 | <mwalling> | (look at 12345 in gmaps, head NNE) |
| 23:55 | <Pryon> | jed: it's that kind of moral relativism that's destroying this country |
| 23:55 | <@jed> | now the Red Wings -- the Red Wings are a team I can get behind |
| 23:55 | <stefanie> | Detroit = fail |
| 23:57 | <TLKit> | I have 4 Linode's now, I <3 Linode. |
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| 23:57 | <@caker> | 4 linode's what? |
| 23:57 | <TLKit> | 1 in each except Atlanta. |
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| 23:57 | <Pryon> | 4 linodes in a pot, 9 days old |
| 23:57 | <amitz> | caker: allow me to invite you to #english . See the channel title. |
| 23:57 | <@jed> | caker: can you setup the shutdown plz |
| 23:58 | <TLKit> | + The iPhone application is awesome, just the fact it doens't have a save password option, though. |
| 23:58 | <@jed> | TLKit: next app store update |
| 23:58 | <TLKit> | Hawt, thanks. |
| 23:58 | <bob2> | amitz: http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif |
| 23:58 | <chesty> | last |
| 23:58 | <SirSquidness> | bob2: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe is better |
| 23:58 | <SirSquidness> | chesty: you're a bit early |
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| 23:59 | <TLKit> | I did notice a slight issue with the application though, I'll take a screenshot, hold. |
| 23:59 | <amitz> | bob2: allow me to invite you to #english . See the channel title. :-p |
| 23:59 | <Pryon> | Hmm. My clock is off |
| 23:59 | <mwalling> | caker: i printed out each frame of the misspelling oatmeal and put it up in my cube |
| 23:59 | <mwalling> | caker: i think of you when i see that |
| 23:59 | <mwalling> | Pryon: no, it rotates 1 minute early |
| 23:59 | <SirSquidness> | bob2: 15:59:01 |
| 23:59 | <SirSquidness> | sync your clock |
| 23:59 | <Pryon> | ah |
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