| --- | Log | opened Sat Feb 06 00:00:04 2010 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Feb 06 2010 |
| 00:00 | <@jed> | Emilie: hm, MySQL running OK? |
| 00:00 | <amitz> | megatron27: natural language processing using nltk , the prove of concept, hopefully will be urmom :-p |
| 00:00 | <@jed> | it feels like your site is waiting on something |
| 00:00 | <megatron27> | amitz, shit, great topic |
| 00:00 | <Emilie> | jed: mysql seems to be running fine |
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| 00:00 | <megatron27> | amitz, you'll surely get all the conference groupies ogling at you |
| 00:01 | <@jed> | nothing in /var/log/apache2/error.log, /var/log/mysql/..., /var/log/(where does drupal log), you say? |
| 00:01 | <@jed> | try bringing everything down and starting it one at a time |
| 00:01 | <@jed> | oh, you said opensuse -- point about logs stands, paths do not |
| 00:02 | <amitz> | megatron27: great potential but I don't know if I can pull it good enough though. But I've been obsessing about it for almost a year. |
| 00:02 | <snassar> | stupid comcast |
| 00:03 | <amitz> | megatron27: and, you still haven't thought about a topic yet? Maybe you can use my topic too ;-) |
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| 00:03 | <snassar> | uploading at 260KB/s |
| 00:04 | <amitz> | megatron27: I mean, that topic is large enough to be talked by multiple people. |
| 00:08 | <snassar> | who the hell gave Comcast keys to the intertubes? |
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| 00:08 | <Emilie> | jed: in the apache log it had an error when it reached MaxClients, but I've since restarted apache, should I reboot? |
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| 00:09 | <@jed> | no, restarting apache should clear that up |
| 00:09 | <linbot> | New news from forums: My sshd was bruteforced! in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5158>; |
| 00:09 | <megatron27> | amitz, test |
| 00:09 | <megatron27> | amitz, usually you have to be familiar with a topic in order to present on it :P |
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| 00:15 | <amitz> | megatron27: then you need to think up a topic fast! |
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| 00:17 | <megatron27> | some idiot misplaced a book so I can't find it in the library |
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| 00:18 | <megatron27> | t-i-r-e-d |
| 00:19 | <blairv> | s |
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| 00:20 | <amitz> | megatron27: not too tired to spell t-i-r-e-d ;-) |
| 00:21 | <megatron27> | this library has a rule against using walkmans :-) they're still stuck in the 80s |
| 00:21 | <amitz> | yay for ipod/mp3 players! |
| 00:21 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:21 | <vulcan> | lol |
| 00:22 | <amitz> | megatron27: the local python site is not properly configured, it's embarassing... |
| 00:22 | <megatron27> | amitz, you have to start one |
| 00:23 | <megatron27> | also while you're at it start the Indonesian Linode User Group |
| 00:23 | <megatron27> | then, focus your efforts on a Krisdayanti fan club |
| 00:24 | <megatron27> | don't let your country down |
| 00:24 | <Emilie> | jed: ok, I just completely stopped and then restarted apache and mysql and the site is accessible again, thank you so much for your help |
| 00:24 | <amitz> | oh, never bothered to google. Indonesian linode users do exist! and by the time the fan club becomes well-established, she will probably die of old age. |
| 00:25 | <@jed> | Emilie: no problem :) |
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| 00:26 | <megatron27> | the Malaysian PUG is about to launch its site |
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| 00:28 | <Hoggs> | Anyone know, if I use dd to copy a disk to a file, will it copy the MBR with it? |
| 00:31 | <amitz> | Hoggs: if you copy the /dev/?d?, it will. But if you copy the /dev/?d??, it won't. |
| 00:31 | <Hoggs> | Cool |
| 00:32 | <rocket> | what is a typical solution for deployment? |
| 00:32 | <amitz> | Hoggs: do note that if you copy /dev/?d?, the space required by default is as much as the size of the whole disk. |
| 00:32 | <Hoggs> | Yeah, I'd copy it to a larger disk |
| 00:32 | <Hoggs> | LO |
| 00:32 | <Hoggs> | :P* |
| 00:33 | <rocket> | i have my files stored under var/www |
| 00:33 | <rocket> | i want a git server as well |
| 00:33 | <rocket> | how do i deploy to production efficiently? |
| 00:35 | <amitz> | rocket: you may be better of googling first then ask specific questions. |
| 00:37 | <rocket> | i have and i get varying info |
| 00:37 | <rocket> | tyring to figure out if its best to have my var/www/www.site.com/ a git which i just push to |
| 00:37 | <rocket> | or to use rsync (which i have never used) |
| 00:37 | <amitz> | hmm... perhaps just wait around. I'm not capable enough to comment on the whole general approaches. |
| 00:38 | <rocket> | k |
| 00:39 | <@jed> | git works, as does rsync |
| 00:40 | <mwalling> | hg |
| 00:40 | <amitz> | rocket: with git, you can have your histories in your linode. with rsync, you're responsible to maintain you histories locally. cmiiw. |
| 00:42 | <@jed> | Microsoft Chief Research Officer Craig Mundie wants Internet Driver's License |
| 00:42 | <@jed> | for once: I agree |
| 00:42 | <amitz> | rocket: or git should be setupable to keep your histories locally, not sure. So basically with rsync, you need to have a separate mechanism for versioning/histories. |
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| 00:43 | <rocket> | k |
| 00:43 | <amitz> | jed: I fear that driver's license can easily be used to enforce identification of users in internet. |
| 00:43 | <megatron27> | setupable - I like that word |
| 00:44 | <amitz> | megatron27: me too, especially since it doesn't trigger new linbot trigger: !setup :-p |
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| 00:47 | <amitz> | so... setupable comes from "setup"+"able or "set up"+"able"? |
| 00:47 | <megatron27> | not in the mood to work today |
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| 00:48 | <Hoggs> | amitz, but isn't setup just "set"+"up", anyway? |
| 00:48 | <amitz> | megatron27: it seems you are joining a company? |
| 00:48 | <megatron27> | which company |
| 00:48 | <amitz> | !setup |
| 00:48 | <linbot> | setup is not a verb. Please see http://notaverb.com/ |
| 00:48 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:48 | <Hoggs> | lol wut. |
| 00:49 | * | Hoggs stabs mikegrb |
| 00:49 | <amitz> | Hoggs ^^, this becomes a... problem :-) |
| 00:49 | <megatron27> | sometimes I feel like making obvious grammatical mistakes just to piss people off |
| 00:49 | <amitz> | megatron27: I don't know. I just noticed you start becoming unavailable at office hours and only comes when you need some info. |
| 00:49 | <Hoggs> | That site is fairly obvious |
| 00:50 | <megatron27> | nah, I don't like hanging out here because this room is consistently on-topic |
| 00:50 | <amitz> | which reminds me, I should learn to speak (and write) a bit more grammatically.. |
| 00:51 | <Hoggs> | I should learn to speak |
| 00:51 | <megatron27> | amitz, learn from Ali G |
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| 00:51 | <Hoggs> | I think 10x faster than I can talk, the results are a mess. |
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| 00:52 | <megatron27> | Hoggs, do you ever miss words when you type? |
| 00:52 | <amitz> | megatron27: wikipedia info on him is not that promising. |
| 00:52 | <Hoggs> | megatron27, all the time |
| 00:52 | <megatron27> | Hoggs, yeah, that happens to me a lot |
| 00:52 | <megatron27> | happens when your brain and hands are out of sync |
| 00:52 | <megatron27> | fingers* |
| 00:53 | <amitz> | I usually miswrite words with similar sounds. |
| 00:53 | <Hoggs> | If my mind gets distracted mid verbal sentence, I'll either start blurting random words, or just forget entirely what I was saying on the spot. :P |
| 00:53 | <megatron27> | amitz, the most important thing to do is to ALWAYS use you're for your and vice versa |
| 00:54 | <amitz> | megatron27: then I can rise to prominence. |
| 00:54 | <megatron27> | amitz, yes, please, do that |
| 00:54 | <amitz> | like Ali G. |
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| 00:55 | <megatron27> | amitz, your are trivializing Ali G, there's a lot more to him than just the way he speaks |
| 00:55 | <Hoggs> | Did you know |
| 00:55 | <Hoggs> | he is borat |
| 00:55 | <amitz> | oh, he did borat! |
| 00:55 | <Hoggs> | /hiveminds. |
| 00:56 | <amitz> | /mindstealer |
| 00:56 | <@jed> | and bruno |
| 00:56 | <megatron27> | he's a genius |
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| 00:56 | <megatron27> | I bet most comedians have a high iq |
| 00:57 | <@jed> | clearly you've never watched tater salad |
| 00:57 | <@jed> | and the rest of the redneck rumble |
| 00:57 | <megatron27> | the funny ones at least |
| 00:57 | <Hoggs> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvpyUigXIAw |
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| 01:06 | <tjfontaine> | genius is a bit of a stretch |
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| 01:07 | <amitz> | eccentrically appreciatable. |
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| 01:24 | <dcraig> | any IRC ports blocked on the UK linodes? (like in atlanta) |
| 01:24 | <@caker> | nope |
| 01:24 | <dcraig> | k |
| 01:24 | <dcraig> | thanks |
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| 01:42 | <atourino> | !urmom |
| 01:42 | <linbot> | atourino: Yo momma's so nasty she had sex with Yaakov and then kissed pparadis (826:17/0) [momur] |
| 01:42 | <atourino> | ugh! |
| 01:43 | <atourino> | thats not even wrong!! |
| 01:43 | <atourino> | haha |
| 01:43 | <atourino> | anyone around? |
| 01:43 | <atourino> | me is drunk |
| 01:44 | <@Perihelion> | Oh, that's very wrong. |
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| 01:47 | <A-KO> | http://snowpocalypsedc.com/ |
| 01:47 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:47 | <A-KO> | lol |
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| 01:54 | <megatron27> | amitz, |
| 01:54 | <amitz> | megatron27, |
| 01:55 | <megatron27> | amitz, there's a new Python IDE |
| 01:55 | <megatron27> | from the makers of IntelliJ |
| 01:55 | <amitz> | ah |
| 01:55 | <amitz> | I use eclipse |
| 01:55 | <megatron27> | Eclipse is basically a rip off of Intellij |
| 01:56 | <amitz> | UI-wise? |
| 01:56 | <jcy> | the egg mcmuffin is a rip off of eggs benedict |
| 01:56 | <megatron27> | feature-wise |
| 01:58 | <megatron27> | heh, they use the Java coding standard when coding Python |
| 01:58 | <amitz> | on the phone |
| 01:59 | <megatron27> | mistress? |
| 01:59 | <A-KO> | http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5355/img0439n.jpg < after only 5 hours of snow, we have about 18 more to go |
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| 02:01 | <Saurabh> | Hi everyone |
| 02:01 | <megatron27> | A-KO, wow |
| 02:01 | <megatron27> | snow rocks |
| 02:02 | <Saurabh> | Can anyone help me how can i connect sql yog to my MySQL databse on linod |
| 02:05 | <pwnguin> | A-KO: and look at all the dead people already! |
| 02:05 | <pwnguin> | you guys are fast mourners |
| 02:06 | <amitz> | megatron27: ah, you mean the highlighting. Talking to some people on the phone can consume a lot of your energy.. |
| 02:06 | <bob2> | Saurabh: ssh port forwarding |
| 02:06 | <amitz> | and the identation? |
| 02:06 | <Saurabh> | how can i do it |
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| 02:06 | <Saurabh> | can you please make it a bit simple for me |
| 02:07 | <bob2> | first hit for 'mysql putty port forwarding' on google |
| 02:08 | <Saurabh> | ok thank you |
| 02:09 | <@Perihelion> | You're trying to connect to mysql with port forwarding? |
| 02:10 | <jcy> | ahhhh, <3 my ssd |
| 02:10 | <A-KO> | SSDs rule |
| 02:10 | <jcy> | i just unzipped a 1.5GB onto the same volume in 18 seconds |
| 02:10 | <A-KO> | I've got the x25-m g2 :P |
| 02:11 | <A-KO> | best purchase for my PC ever |
| 02:11 | <jcy> | seriously, it's so smooth. like riding in the back of a Benz |
| 02:11 | <megatron27> | jcy, what do you mean |
| 02:11 | <amitz> | jcy: I have never ride the back of the benz. I fear small space. |
| 02:12 | <jcy> | i just downloaded bad company 2 |
| 02:12 | <jcy> | heard of it? |
| 02:12 | <jcy> | anyway it's a game beta, and it was a 1.5GB file. i unzipped it into the same partition the file was saved on and it took 18 seconds |
| 02:13 | <amitz> | not to mention the trouble the driver can get if I die there. |
| 02:13 | <megatron27> | amitz, are you referring to the boot |
| 02:14 | <amitz> | megatron27: the trunk. |
| 02:15 | <ghostfish> | right, problem it, that 1.5 GB is a whole number percentage of your total space |
| 02:15 | <ghostfish> | on a hard drive, it's a tenth of a percent |
| 02:15 | <jcy> | http://j00d.com/ssd.JPG |
| 02:15 | <amitz> | omg, windows. |
| 02:15 | <jcy> | [02:12:17][02:12:17] <jcy> i just downloaded bad company 2 |
| 02:16 | <jcy> | ^^^did you think i meant xbox? |
| 02:16 | <amitz> | jcy: I thought bad company is the name of a film :-p |
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| 02:17 | <jcy> | well it is actually |
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| 02:17 | <jcy> | laurence fishburne and i forgot her name |
| 02:17 | <jcy> | ellen barkin? |
| 02:17 | <amitz> | and a manga title too. |
| 02:17 | <jcy> | only perv's look at manga |
| 02:17 | <jcy> | j/k |
| 02:18 | <amitz> | Being a pervert isn't that bad if you consider the benefits :-p |
| 02:19 | <jcy> | i think it's normal to be a pervert actually |
| 02:19 | <jcy> | but moving on, i want more admiring comments about my ssd |
| 02:19 | <amitz> | omg, ssd. |
| 02:20 | <jcy> | i just wish i had a 2nd ssd to unzip to, FOR MORE PWNAGE |
| 02:20 | <A-KO> | jcy: I'm actually looking at throwing in a buffer drive for downloads/extractions :P |
| 02:20 | <A-KO> | 500G single drive though, one of my older ones |
| 02:21 | <A-KO> | writes to the raid 5 are terribad slow, and murder my system IO |
| 02:21 | <amitz> | perhaps I should wait until mac mini carries ssd... |
| 02:21 | <jcy> | i wish i wasn't poor now, i'd buy an areca and setup a nice r0 |
| 02:21 | <A-KO> | buddy of mine has a 3ware controller in his system |
| 02:23 | <Saurabh> | thank you bob |
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| 02:23 | <A-KO> | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151039 |
| 02:25 | <jcy> | haha i wish i could justify that much for a vid card, let alone a raid card |
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| 02:27 | <amitz> | jcy: I wish I can easily justify that much for a computer, let alone a raid card. :-p |
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| 02:30 | <jcy> | how big is your screen amitz |
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| 02:33 | <SelfishMan> | Dear NewEgg: When I'm buying one type of console it doesn't help me to suggest games and controllers for a different system |
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| 02:38 | <amitz> | jcy: oh, 17 inches. |
| 02:42 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Setting Up remote Desktop? in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5146>; |
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| 03:05 | <atourino> | ok |
| 03:05 | <atourino> | before I go |
| 03:05 | <atourino> | !urmom |
| 03:05 | <linbot> | atourino: Yo momma's so ugly they filmed 'Gorillas in the Mist' in her shower! (810:4/0) [mumro] |
| 03:06 | <atourino> | wow... who were the gorillas? |
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| 03:16 | <rocket> | anyone still alive |
| 03:16 | <rocket> | have a question |
| 03:17 | <rocket> | im following this here to set up a git server http://blog.commonthread.com/2008/4/14/setting-up-a-git-server |
| 03:17 | <rocket> | i added the user "git" |
| 03:18 | <rocket> | but he can't get shell access because hes not part of the Allow user under /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 03:18 | <rocket> | do I need to add him to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and if so what syntax? |
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| 03:21 | <Linoder> | A very basic question about time stamps: I am parsing + storing a log w/integer time (i.e. number of seconds since January 1 1970 00:00:00 GMT). |
| 03:22 | <Linoder> | I have everything in mysql in this format. But one stupid log is in US/Pacific timezone. IN order for me to store this as GMT time, how do I properly the time from pacific timezone to GMT time? |
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| 03:31 | <konadog> | Would someone kindly shed some light on DHCP for me? Will my linode always get the same IP address at boot time from the DHCP server? |
| 03:32 | <Clorith> | Yes, you will always have the IP asigned your linode |
| 03:33 | <jcy> | the dhcp server maps an ip address to your mac address, i believe |
| 03:34 | <konadog> | Suggestions to avoid having /etc/resolv.conf overwritten at boot time? Planning to run my own instance of Bind? |
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| 03:34 | <jcy> | you know, you can go into your linode manager, find your ip address and statically set it |
| 03:34 | <jcy> | you don't have to leave it at dhcp |
| 03:35 | <jcy> | you might want to learn how to use the ajax console or lish first tho |
| 03:36 | <konadog> | Well, I used lish to observe a reboot. Is that where the static setting can be done? |
| 03:37 | <Clorith> | the static setting is done in the iface config |
| 03:37 | <jcy> | what distro |
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| 03:37 | <konadog> | Fedora 11 |
| 03:38 | <jcy> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Configure_Static_IPs |
| 03:39 | <konadog> | Beautiful jcy - THANK YOU!! Exactly the docs I was looking for! |
| 03:39 | <Clorith> | could also check the library ;) |
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| 03:42 | <Clorith> | library.linode.com \o/ |
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| 03:46 | <konadog> | Thanks Clorith.... That should be enough help to get me going in the right direction. Time for me to get some zzzz's. |
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| 05:10 | <amitz> | !ipinfo 85.110.147.12 |
| 05:10 | <linbot> | amitz: IP: 85.110.147.12; rDNS: None; ASN adv net: 85.110.128.0/17; ASN: AS9121; ASN owner: TTnet Autonomous System; ASN reg: 1997-10-23; City: Urfa; State: Sanliurfa; Country: TR; Latitude: 37.1511; Longitude: 38.7928; UTC offset: 2; http://revip.info/lookup/85.110.147.12 |
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| 05:19 | <SelfishMan> | AOMG AMITZ IS ABUSING MY SERVER |
| 05:29 | <amitz> | OH GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE! |
| 05:32 | <amitz> | PLEASE FORGIVE ME MY LORD! I'LL GIVE YOU MY HUGE LOVE JUST LIKE YAAKOV GIVING PEOPLE HIS HUGE LOVE. |
| 05:32 | * | amitz backs to getting the 5th tekken god. |
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| 05:55 | <axod> | !avail-nj |
| 05:55 | <linbot> | axod: Newark360 - 23, Newark540 - 0, Newark720 - 6, Newark1080 - 9, Newark1440 - 5, Newark2880 - 2, Newark5760 - 1, Newark8640 - 1, Newark11520 - 1, Newark14400 - 1 |
| 05:55 | <axod> | damn @ 540 |
| 05:55 | <axod> | mmmk |
| 06:01 | <axod> | !avail-nj |
| 06:01 | <linbot> | axod: Newark360 - 23, Newark540 - 0, Newark720 - 5, Newark1080 - 10, Newark1440 - 5, Newark2880 - 2, Newark5760 - 1, Newark8640 - 1, Newark11520 - 1, Newark14400 - 1 |
| 06:01 | <axod> | clever... |
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| 06:02 | <hadsie> | Hi, I've just tried to migrate a slice from a 360 to a 540 but got the error "No available host found that satisfies the plan and resources you've requested. Please check availability and try again later" |
| 06:02 | <hadsie> | how do i check availability? |
| 06:03 | <hadsie> | or alter my plan so that i can upgrade the slice? |
| 06:03 | <chesty> | where is your node (not slice) located? |
| 06:04 | <hadsie> | well... i know that i'm in the newark location |
| 06:04 | <SelfishMan> | !avail-nj |
| 06:04 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Newark360 - 23, Newark540 - 0, Newark720 - 5, Newark1080 - 10, Newark1440 - 5, Newark2880 - 2, Newark5760 - 1, Newark8640 - 1, Newark11520 - 1, Newark14400 - 1 |
| 06:04 | <hadsie> | ahh ok |
| 06:04 | <SelfishMan> | !avail |
| 06:04 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Linode360 - 139, Linode540 - 143, Linode720 - 105, Linode1080 - 35, Linode1440 - 26, Linode2880 - 5 |
| 06:04 | <SelfishMan> | hmm |
| 06:04 | <SelfishMan> | !avail-all |
| 06:04 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Atlanta: 360-31 540-53 720-40 1080-12 1440-9 2880-1; Dallas: 360-65 540-38 720-18 1080-0 1440-0 2880-0; Fremont: 360-0 540-0 720-0 1080-1 1440-1 2880-0; London: 360-20 540-52 720-42 1080-12 1440-9 2880-1; Newark: 360-23 540-0 720-5 1080-10 1440-8 2880-1; (0.86777) mwalling's mom sez hai |
| 06:04 | <SelfishMan> | one of these linsks to the site |
| 06:04 | <SelfishMan> | htp://linode.com/avail.cfm |
| 06:05 | <chesty> | you could put in a ticket and they'll let you know when one becomes available |
| 06:05 | <hadsie> | ok thanks. i'll do that... though i'm not too picky on the physical location right now |
| 06:06 | <hadsie> | is it possible to migrate my slice to a 540 in dallas or atlanta? or do i need to put in a support ticket for that as well? |
| 06:06 | <Internat> | s/slice/node/g |
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| 06:06 | <hadsie> | right |
| 06:06 | <axod> | think you need a support ticket to migrate datacenter |
| 06:06 | <hadsie> | ok thanks |
| 06:06 | <Internat> | nah htye have a move feature now |
| 06:07 | <Internat> | lemme find it |
| 06:07 | <SelfishMan> | hadsie: your IP won't migrate between DCs |
| 06:07 | <hadsie> | ahh. yeah, that would be a problem |
| 06:08 | <SelfishMan> | what do you need from the 540? |
| 06:08 | <hadsie> | i just need more ram |
| 06:08 | <SelfishMan> | you can add the extra 180MB of RAM as an extra for now until something becomes available |
| 06:09 | <hadsie> | SelfishMan: thanks.. i think that's what i'll do |
| 06:13 | <hadsie> | hmmm... "You have selected extras that the host server does not have available. Please go back and narrow your selection and try again." :) |
| 06:13 | <hadsie> | oh well, i'll just wait |
| 06:13 | <hadsie> | not super urgent anyway |
| 06:17 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 06:17 | <axod> | do you remember ram compressions programs lol |
| 06:17 | <axod> | odd stuff |
| 06:20 | <SelfishMan> | hadsie: open a ticket |
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| 06:41 | <Damian> | I officially get nervous when my iPhone does an update 5mins before I gotta go out.... |
| 06:41 | <Damian> | Erm.. wrong channel just ignore me.... |
| 06:42 | <bitmand> | heh |
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| 07:19 | <linbot> | New news from forums: linode kernels in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5159>; |
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| 07:48 | <groulder> | hmm linode app for iphone |
| 07:48 | <groulder> | looks cool |
| 07:48 | <groulder> | now all i need is an iphone |
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| 07:51 | <Dash> | Hi - my linode is failing to boot - I had run fsck etc ... but its the same issue. same thing happened to another linode this morning, had to migrate to another server. |
| 07:51 | <Dash> | Already logged a ticket coupple of back |
| 07:51 | <Dash> | Can someone help me please ... |
| 07:51 | <Dash> | 140498 |
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| 07:57 | <Dash> | HI Tony |
| 07:59 | <Dash> | is anyone from linode online |
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| 09:19 | <JDLSpeedy> | is the iPhone app all api based? |
| 09:20 | <mwalling> | yes |
| 09:20 | <mwalling> | [02-05][02-05] 10:17:57 <@jed> everything the app does you can do with the API, with the exception of graphing |
| 09:21 | <JDLSpeedy> | ooo, ok, can't wait for some android app ;) |
| 09:21 | <mwalling> | *snort* |
| 09:21 | <mwalling> | i'll be an old man |
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| 09:38 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Abuse tickets notification on the front screen in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5160>; |
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| 09:42 | <mwalling> | any jquery lovers here? |
| 09:42 | <amitz> | JDLSpeedy: first step, buy linode staff android phones. |
| 09:44 | <amitz> | JDLSpeedy: cheaper step, talk about how cool android phone is in #linode at least 8 times a day. |
| 09:45 | <JDLSpeedy> | they can download the android emulator from google |
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| 10:06 | <leaf_> | check my site, though you gotta use firefox to see the font, or opera |
| 10:06 | <leaf_> | http://machinecode.org/ |
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| 10:27 | <lcl> | hello |
| 10:28 | <lcl> | I have a problem about the DNS manager |
| 10:28 | <tjfontaine> | !ask away |
| 10:28 | <linbot> | Don't ask to ask; just ASK |
| 10:29 | <lcl> | I changed my domain name's nameserver to ns1.linode.com, ns2.linode.com, ns3.linode.com, ns4.linode.com, is it right? My domain name is in godaddy.com |
| 10:30 | <mwalling> | http://library.linode.com/linode-manager/configuring-dns-with-the-linode-manager |
| 10:30 | <mwalling> | lcl: there are more steps after that, but your first step is right |
| 10:31 | <spkitty> | note there is ns5 now too isn't there? |
| 10:31 | <lcl> | I do follow http://library.linode.com/linode-manager/configuring-dns-with-the-linode-manager |
| 10:31 | <mwalling> | so, jquery question: i've got a ui.draggable object... i want to run a selecter inside that... is that possible? |
| 10:32 | <leaf_> | lcl what exactly is the problem? |
| 10:32 | <spkitty> | don't see why not mwalling |
| 10:33 | <mwalling> | how? |
| 10:33 | <lcl> | I ping my domain name, but it can't point to my ip of my linode VPS |
| 10:33 | <leaf_> | what do you mean "cant"? |
| 10:34 | <leaf_> | it might take an hour or two before the linode dns servers reload and serve your domain |
| 10:34 | <lcl> | it point to my hostmonster's ip... |
| 10:34 | <mwalling> | leaf_: 15 minutes |
| 10:34 | <leaf_> | you can check in realtime on www.dnswatch.info |
| 10:34 | <leaf_> | mwalling: oh? ok |
| 10:35 | <lcl> | I wait for an hour\ |
| 10:35 | <leaf_> | may i ask what domain it is |
| 10:35 | <leaf_> | ill check some stuff real quick |
| 10:36 | <lcl> | leaf_, it seems ok, thank you for your dnswatch.info |
| 10:36 | <lcl> | geekliu.com |
| 10:37 | <leaf_> | lcl well ok if it seems ok now i dont have to check |
| 10:37 | <leaf_> | if dnswatch shows your linode ip all you ahv to do is wait |
| 10:37 | <leaf_> | or use opendns.com cause its fast |
| 10:38 | <mwalling> | *eyeroll* |
| 10:38 | <mwalling> | and they hijack your responses |
| 10:38 | <@mikegrb> | jarly |
| 10:38 | <leaf_> | you mean non resolving domains? |
| 10:38 | <lcl> | what the using of the type in dnswatch.info? |
| 10:38 | <@mikegrb> | no, they fsk with a lot of other stuff too |
| 10:39 | <lcl> | don't hijack me... |
| 10:39 | <leaf_> | like what? |
| 10:39 | <leaf_> | well how are the google public dns servers? |
| 10:39 | <leaf_> | any better or faster? |
| 10:39 | <lcl> | ok, I google it |
| 10:39 | <lcl> | a,mx,ns,soa,txt |
| 10:40 | <leaf_> | lcl those are different type of dns records |
| 10:40 | <leaf_> | MX = email |
| 10:40 | <leaf_> | for instance |
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| 10:41 | <leaf_> | btw on an unrelated note |
| 10:42 | <leaf_> | icann approved simple gtld creation etc, but i havent seen any new ones |
| 10:42 | <leaf_> | is there some in the pipeline? |
| 10:42 | <lcl> | I use newark linode VPS, nameserver of ns4.linode.com is fastest? |
| 10:43 | <mwalling> | they are not resolvers |
| 10:44 | <lcl> | I have two slave domain zones, they are lcls.me and td0769.net. I add to DNS manager, but it is not correct in dnswatch.info. |
| 10:45 | <lcl> | what's the reason? |
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| 10:45 | <lcl> | The IP addresses of the master DNS servers for this zone. Semicolon or new line delimited |
| 10:45 | <lcl> | so I put 69.93.127.10;65.19.178.10;75.127.96.10;207.192.70.10; |
| 10:45 | <lcl> | is it right? |
| 10:46 | <leaf_> | lcl put lcls.me only has linode dns entries in whois |
| 10:46 | <leaf_> | you need to add the master as well |
| 10:46 | <leaf_> | if linode is slave |
| 10:46 | <grawity> | I was always thinking only domain names can be used for NS records... |
| 10:47 | <lcl> | leaf_, you means master domain must work OK first? |
| 10:47 | <leaf_> | i mean, you should put the master dns server as authoritative for the domain |
| 10:48 | <leaf_> | right now you only have linodes |
| 10:48 | <leaf_> | which could work technically after the domain has transfered, but kinda useless |
| 10:48 | <lcl> | master dns server? ns1.linode.com? |
| 10:48 | <leaf_> | no |
| 10:48 | <lcl> | network? |
| 10:48 | <leaf_> | did you add lcls.me as a slave domain in linode dns manager? |
| 10:49 | <leaf_> | or a master domain |
| 10:49 | <lcl> | yes |
| 10:49 | <leaf_> | ok and what is your master dns ? |
| 10:49 | <lcl> | master: geekliu.com, slave: lcls.me, td0769.net |
| 10:49 | <leaf_> | heh |
| 10:50 | <lcl> | 97.107.133.4? |
| 10:50 | <lcl> | DNS Servers: 97.107.133.4 207.192.69.4 207.192.69.5 |
| 10:50 | <leaf_> | * Dns resolved 97.107.133.4 to resolver3.newark.linode.com |
| 10:50 | <leaf_> | im not sure whats going on here actuall |
| 10:50 | <leaf_> | someone else needs to take over |
| 10:51 | <lcl> | How could I find the master dns server? |
| 10:51 | <leaf_> | the master dns server has to be run by you |
| 10:52 | <leaf_> | im too tired to type up the concept of master/dns |
| 10:52 | <lcl> | OK |
| 10:52 | <leaf_> | if you only need linodes dns manager add the domains as master zones |
| 10:52 | <leaf_> | then add records in the dnsmanager |
| 10:52 | <grawity> | leaf_: Is it? Haven't ever heard of such requirement... |
| 10:52 | <lcl> | thank you very much for your warm helping |
| 10:52 | <sub> | http://library.linode.com/networking/introduction-to-dns |
| 10:52 | <leaf_> | dont add them as slaves |
| 10:53 | <leaf_> | grawity: i know |
| 10:53 | <lcl> | And forgive my poor english and newwork technology |
| 10:54 | <leaf_> | lcl the purpose of the linode slave service is for you to be able to run your master wherever you want, and then have backup on linode |
| 10:54 | <lcl> | leaf_, you means I need build up my DNS server? |
| 10:54 | <leaf_> | if you want to add records directly in the dns manager just add as master zone |
| 10:54 | <leaf_> | lcl yes |
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| 10:55 | <leaf_> | but if you have no need to run your own dns just use master |
| 10:55 | <leaf_> | in dns manager |
| 10:55 | <leaf_> | ;;;; |
| 10:55 | <lcl> | bingo |
| 10:55 | <lcl> | cool |
| 10:55 | <lcl> | I get it |
| 10:55 | <lcl> | so th |
| 10:55 | <lcl> | so thx |
| 10:55 | <leaf_> | ok cool |
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| 10:58 | <lcl> | another question, If I want a.com point to /www/a/ and blog.a.com point to /www/ablog/, Must I use apache only? |
| 10:59 | <sub> | no, you can use whatever you want |
| 10:59 | <lcl> | 88 |
| 10:59 | <leaf_> | in apache anyway you add virtual hosts for the domains |
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| 11:01 | <sub> | ... |
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| 11:12 | <amitz> | Twayne? is that you? :-p |
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| 12:05 | <Napta> | find . -type f -name "tgirl*.avi" |
| 12:05 | <Napta> | whoops |
| 12:05 | <fitnessfrog> | is there any issue with the network? |
| 12:06 | <Napta> | fitnessfrog: yes |
| 12:06 | <fitnessfrog> | what's down? |
| 12:06 | <Napta> | People are injecting packets with s/books/tgirl/ in my irc :( |
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| 12:10 | <spkitty> | suuuuuure Napta |
| 12:11 | <Peng> | Napta: books*.avi? |
| 12:13 | <Napta> | doh! |
| 12:13 | <Napta> | I really never thought about that one |
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| 12:18 | <fitnessfrog> | anyone has any idea when the network should be up? |
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| 12:19 | <leaf_> | what network |
| 12:19 | <leaf_> | where is your vps located |
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| 12:20 | <fitnessfrog> | how do i know where my vps is located? |
| 12:21 | <leaf_> | log in to members.linode.com |
| 12:21 | <spkitty> | fitnessfrog: log in to dashboard - https://www.linode.com/members/linode/dashboard.cfm - it will say under 'location' |
| 12:21 | <rHn> | you choose the data center when you set the vps up |
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| 12:23 | <leaf_> | i dont see anything here http://status.linode.com/ |
| 12:23 | <leaf_> | so chances are your vps is down by itself |
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| 12:38 | <Napta> | fitnessfrog: you don't know where your VPS is located? |
| 12:38 | <Napta> | does it move? :D |
| 12:38 | <Peng> | Mine tried to creepy off to Chicago, but I caught it! |
| 12:39 | <Peng> | Um, creep* |
| 12:39 | <Napta> | hehe |
| 12:39 | <Napta> | mine was stolen |
| 12:39 | <Napta> | by slicehost |
| 12:39 | <Napta> | :o |
| 12:39 | <Napta> | haha, for the British people here (?) I guess you could compare Linode and Slicehost (rackspace?) to Top Gear and Fith Gear |
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| 12:40 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Postfix as secondary mail server (relay issue..) in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5161>; |
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| 12:45 | <spkitty> | Napta: one of them is kinda interesting but the writers are losing it and the other was boring and cancelled? |
| 12:46 | <Napta> | kinda interesting?! |
| 12:46 | <Napta> | get out |
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| 12:47 | <spkitty> | the last two seasons of top gear having been pretty boring and too obviously set-up for me i'm sorry |
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| 12:47 | <Napta> | spkitty: There was a recession! |
| 12:47 | <spkitty> | nah the production values were still there, it was the writing that was missing |
| 12:47 | <Peng> | Maybe that's where they cut back! |
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| 13:08 | <jtsage> | Peng - watching This<insert city> today? This afternoon, the obvious low point in kirstin dunst's career.... |
| 13:10 | <amitz_> | what about her? |
| 13:10 | <milestinsley> | Hello, I have a noob question. I keep getting email alerts for disk io rate exceeding the threshold. The threshold is 1000 and I get regular notifications saying the disk io rate is near 30-40k!!! Is this normal for a server that is pretty much idle at the moment? |
| 13:10 | <jtsage> | amitz - it's a movie with her starring opposite the kid who played brad in the home improvement series. looks to be a real winner </sarcasm> |
| 13:10 | <mwalling> | no |
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| 13:11 | <mwalling> | look at your graphs, see whats going on. look at vmstat inside your node, see whats going on: are you swapping? are you writing a lot? |
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| 13:11 | <amitz> | jtsage: ah, I see. |
| 13:12 | <milestinsley> | mwalling: Ok, thanks for the advice. I will investigate |
| 13:13 | <mwalling> | milestinsley: the way the graphs work is to take the mean of the data points collected for the last 2 hours, not the median, so 1 huge spike can trip it |
| 13:13 | <mwalling> | thats why i suggested to check the graphs first |
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| 13:18 | <milestinsley> | mwalling: Hmmm.. The disk io rate has been consistently high [>30k] for the last 8 hours. But vmstat suggests both the swap in and out are 0!! |
| 13:19 | <mwalling> | what about bi and bo? |
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| 13:20 | <milestinsley> | 11 and 29 respectively |
| 13:20 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 13:20 | <Twayne> | THIS IS CAKE http://www.flickr.com/photos/lovetocake/4092743439/in/photostream/ |
| 13:20 | <mwalling> | you need to look at trends over time |
| 13:21 | <milestinsley> | Ok. I will do that. Is it likely that one process is causing this? |
| 13:21 | <mwalling> | idk |
| 13:21 | <mwalling> | i dont know what you're doing |
| 13:21 | <milestinsley> | Of course. I'm just setting up a basic server at the mo |
| 13:21 | <Napta_> | Is there any reason to believe that the private network backend may get interruptions from time to time? |
| 13:22 | <milestinsley> | There is no traffic at the moment. |
| 13:23 | <milestinsley> | mwalling: Thanks for your help. I appreciate it. I shall look at the trends over a long period of time as you suggest. |
| 13:23 | <mwalling> | i didnt say long |
| 13:23 | <mwalling> | i just said time |
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| 13:24 | <milestinsley> | Ok, well I can see a correlation between the CPU and disk io, and there are a few spikes there. I just need to work out what they mean! |
| 13:25 | <Peng> | jtsage: No. I watched a little bit of that movie when they aired it a few months ago. It was cute. Dumb, of course, but whatever. |
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| 13:26 | <coobra> | any one that have uses limits.con / ulimit and how do it count ?? |
| 13:26 | <coobra> | 1proces is what :o |
| 13:26 | <jtsage> | heh |
| 13:28 | <Peng> | A couple weeks ago, there was basically Home Alone...in a forest!, starring the son of a special operations guy or something. \o/ |
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| 13:29 | <jtsage> | nice. well, i am snowed in today, so i can only hope that they keep the quality that high all day |
| 13:30 | <Peng> | Later, "A Skye terrier guards the churchyard grave of the Scottish policeman who was his master.". With Christopher Lee! |
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| 13:32 | <coobra> | hmms |
| 13:32 | <coobra> | :/ |
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| 13:34 | <bung> | about 4 hours ago something on my machine started using 100% cpu |
| 13:34 | <bung> | probably a bug in an app im running |
| 13:34 | <bung> | what log would i check |
| 13:34 | <grawity> | I don't think there's a log for that. |
| 13:35 | <Peng> | If it's still going on, check htop or top or ps or ... |
| 13:35 | <bung> | well i ran htop just before killing it and saw one process using 56% |
| 13:35 | <bung> | according to htop |
| 13:35 | <bung> | which was one of my apps |
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| 13:36 | <bung> | the strange thing is i just moved from a different vds service where i never had this issue |
| 13:36 | <bung> | its a java app |
| 13:36 | <bung> | so maybe problems in the versions |
| 13:36 | <bung> | differences |
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| 13:37 | <bung> | i will go through the munin guide |
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| 14:28 | <Lordicon> | Im having some trouble with mysql on my server if anyone can help me |
| 14:28 | <Lordicon> | Main problem is connecting to the database |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | My error I am getting is this |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | On line 5 |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | This is my code |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | <? |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | ob_start(); |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | session_start(); |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | header("Cache-control: private"); |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | $db_conn = mysql_connect("MySQL-IP", "MySQL-User", "MySQL-Password") or die("unable to connect to the database"); |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | mysql_select_db("MySQL-DB", $db_conn) or die("unable to select the database"); |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | $from = 'EMAIL'; |
| 14:29 | <Lordicon> | ?> |
| 14:29 | <tjfontaine> | !paste |
| 14:29 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 14:29 | <JshWright> | Lordicon: use a.... |
| 14:29 | <JshWright> | what tjfontaine said |
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| 14:31 | <Lordicon> | yea sorry |
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| 14:35 | <Lordicon> | mm cant log into that, how about if I use my own pastebin will that work? |
| 14:35 | <tjfontaine> | you have to *read* the login dialog |
| 14:35 | <jtsage> | Lordicon- is mysql really listening where you told the script it is? i.e. not bound to the interface you are trying to use? |
| 14:36 | <Lordicon> | No idea |
| 14:36 | <Lordicon> | Here is the link to my problem http://pastebin.com/m7dcf4304 |
| 14:36 | <Lordicon> | I have no idea if mysql is listing at all or how to make it |
| 14:36 | <Lordicon> | im noob to it |
| 14:36 | <Lordicon> | listening* |
| 14:37 | <agentbleubleu> | Oh Very good news on London, I have many friends who will take this up, who have not gone with linode as needed UK IPs |
| 14:39 | <Peng> | They needed UK IPs? |
| 14:39 | <jtsage> | Lordicon- its hard to tell with you obfuscationg the connection details, but check out /etc/mysql/my.cnf - particularly bind-address. 0.0.0.0 binds to all addresses, otherwise, make sure you are trying to connect to the IP listed there (or change it accordingly) |
| 14:40 | <agentbleubleu> | yes |
| 14:40 | <agentbleubleu> | for SEO reasons |
| 14:40 | <Lordicon> | k ill try to look |
| 14:41 | <Lordicon> | keeps telling me permission denied with SSH |
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| 14:42 | <jtsage> | Lordicon- permission denied on the file? that file is likely only editable by root (i.e. you'll either need to be root, or use sudo if it's set up) |
| 14:44 | <Lordicon> | i was in root, still denied im using WinSCP now to just grab the file edit and upload |
| 14:44 | <Lordicon> | also are you talking about this line? bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
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| 14:45 | <Lordicon> | So should I not be trying to connect to my servers IP? or should I change that to the servers IP instead of the localhost |
| 14:46 | <jtsage> | where is the php running? on that server? |
| 14:46 | <Lordicon> | the php is on another web server |
| 14:47 | <Lordicon> | and im trying to use my servers ip to connect to the mysql running on my server |
| 14:47 | <@Perihelion> | Does your MySQL server actually allow remote connections from the IP that PHP is on? |
| 14:47 | <jtsage> | ahh. then you will need to open up mysql. you can change that line to the servers IP (where mysql is running), but you'll only be able to connect to the remote address that way, or you can change it to 0.0.0.0 and you'll be able to connect from the remote server, and locally |
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| 14:49 | <Lordicon> | So wait - I change that line to 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 and it should work? |
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| 14:49 | <Lordicon> | ill be able to use a php script from another webserver to connect to the mysql on my game server |
| 14:49 | <Lordicon> | ? |
| 14:50 | <jtsage> | it will come closer to working. you need to also make sure that the permissions in mysql allow whatever user you are using to connect from a remote host |
| 14:50 | <Lordicon> | I may just move the mysql over to my webserver and have my game connect to it.. |
| 14:50 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:50 | <Lordicon> | makes it easyer lol |
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| 14:51 | <Lordicon> | Anyway thanks for your help. ill figure this out one way or another... Kudos |
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| 15:00 | <playfirst> | if i want to upgrade from a linode 360 to 540 can this be done without having to transfer all my data to the new linode? |
| 15:00 | <BarkerJr> | no, you switch hosts when you upgrade/downgrade |
| 15:00 | <BarkerJr> | it's automated, though |
| 15:01 | <@psandin> | what BarkerJr said |
| 15:01 | <BarkerJr> | check out the Resize tab in your linode |
| 15:01 | <playfirst> | so it automatically will do everything for me? |
| 15:01 | <playfirst> | but my servers will be down for a period of time or no? |
| 15:01 | <@psandin> | yep, think of it like a really long reboot |
| 15:02 | <@psandin> | it takes about 1 to 2 minutes per gigabyte to move to a new host in the same datacenter |
| 15:02 | <@psandin> | gigabyte of disk space |
| 15:02 | <BarkerJr> | yeah, and the resize tab shows the estimated downtime based on your disk space :) |
| 15:03 | <playfirst> | okay so its pretty easy upgrade. |
| 15:03 | <Peng> | Yes, it is. |
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| 15:04 | <playfirst> | what really determines how much ram you need? is it traffic? or is it the amount of say graphical stuff you have on your servers? |
| 15:04 | <playfirst> | websites that is |
| 15:05 | <Peng> | It's the amount of RAM you're using. |
| 15:05 | <Peng> | Sorry. :P |
| 15:05 | <BarkerJr> | all of the above |
| 15:06 | <playfirst> | yeah i guess i don't understand how much traffic say 360 ram can handle at a time? |
| 15:06 | <Peng> | But it's hard to be more specific. Some crappy web app might blow up your server with 4 users, but a static site on a good web server might be able to handle hundreds of Mbps of traffic. |
| 15:07 | <BarkerJr> | also depends on if you're running mail servers, if there's spam filtering on it, if you're running dns servers, and so on |
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| 15:08 | <BarkerJr> | I like to place my mysql daemon on a different 360, so I can keep the load on my web server low... keeps mysql I/O from draging down static content speed |
| 15:10 | <playfirst> | well generally i'm running wordpress sites. |
| 15:10 | <@psandin> | MySQL also likes to eat RAM if you let it |
| 15:10 | <playfirst> | do wordpress sites like a few of them with blogs ect require a ton of ram? |
| 15:11 | <BarkerJr> | so I run apache/php/bind on one server, and tomcat/mysql/hl2 on the other, connected via the private network |
| 15:12 | <playfirst> | how many websites on your linode you running? |
| 15:12 | <@psandin> | BarkerJr: what sort of hl2 server are you running? |
| 15:12 | <playfirst> | and how much traffic you get? |
| 15:12 | <BarkerJr> | l4d2 |
| 15:12 | <playfirst> | oh its a game. |
| 15:12 | <BarkerJr> | :) |
| 15:12 | <playfirst> | invite me on steam please. |
| 15:13 | <@psandin> | BarkerJr: good stuff, I'm more of a tf2 guy |
| 15:13 | <playfirst> | my steam account is maddogkilla |
| 15:13 | <playfirst> | i'm on right now |
| 15:13 | <BarkerJr> | eh idunno :) |
| 15:13 | <playfirst> | i have l4d2 |
| 15:13 | <BarkerJr> | I run several sites, but nothing wordpress |
| 15:14 | <Napta_> | I read that as "nothing worthless" - good to know! ;) |
| 15:14 | <BarkerJr> | oh, but I have plenty of worthless stuff hosted |
| 15:14 | <Napta_> | same |
| 15:15 | <@psandin> | I've never run word press myself, but from what I've heard, wp-super-cache makes a world of difference |
| 15:16 | <@psandin> | it's the internet, most of it is frivolous, but it's fun frivolity |
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| 15:19 | <cerulean> | hey all |
| 15:20 | <Peng> | HELLO |
| 15:20 | <cerulean> | is there a way to clone an existing linode configuration/disk image when creating a new linode? |
| 15:20 | <Peng> | Yes. |
| 15:20 | <Napta_> | hehe |
| 15:21 | <Napta_> | wait |
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| 15:21 | <Napta> | phew |
| 15:21 | <Peng> | Napta: tj didn't notice, so you're good. |
| 15:21 | <Peng> | cerulean: Well, maybe not when creating the new node, but certainly afterwards. |
| 15:21 | <BarkerJr> | you have to shutdown the current linode before cloning it, though |
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| 15:22 | <tjfontaine> | hmm? |
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| 15:22 | <Peng> | tjfontaine: A vile underscore had attached itself to Napta's nick. |
| 15:22 | <tjfontaine> | he wasn't trying to pass it off has his primary client with a secondary connection in play |
| 15:23 | <cerulean> | so i can do a clone from somewhere in linode manager? any cluesticks as to where to look? |
| 15:23 | <Peng> | cerulean: Image options for hte old disk image, IIRC. |
| 15:24 | <Napta> | secondary connections eh, I remember those |
| 15:24 | <Napta> | They predate screen/irssi/SOCKSfromWork right? |
| 15:24 | <@psandin> | if you're looking to move an entire configuration profile that is on the "settings an utilites" tab |
| 15:24 | <Peng_> | Secondary whats? :> |
| 15:24 | <Napta> | haha |
| 15:24 | <tjfontaine> | /kill Peng_ |
| 15:25 | <Napta> | active/active HA ? |
| 15:25 | <Peng> | Does it sound better if I say "hot spare"? |
| 15:25 | <Napta> | haha |
| 15:25 | <tjfontaine> | no |
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| 15:25 | <Napta> | I think it does |
| 15:25 | <Napta> | call it a "global hot spare" |
| 15:25 | <tjfontaine> | I'm hungry again |
| 15:25 | <cerulean> | psandin: ah sweet, that's where it was, thx |
| 15:26 | <@psandin> | cerulean: np |
| 15:26 | <cerulean> | that one should be in the faq imho |
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| 15:28 | <@psandin> | cerulean: I'll pass that on to the docs guys |
| 15:29 | <cerulean> | psandin: does it work between data centers as well? |
| 15:29 | <Peng> | Linode has "docs guys" now? They grow up so fast... :> |
| 15:30 | <@psandin> | Peng: there are even now official support guys too |
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| 15:32 | <@psandin> | cerulean: I believe it does, your the frist I've heard as |
| 15:32 | <mpurcell> | Hey, what are the valid values for "status" in the Linode API for linode.list? |
| 15:33 | <Peng> | Cloning disk images across data centers certainly works. |
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| 15:34 | <cerulean> | Very nice |
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| 15:34 | <cerulean> | Now I'm tempted to go and try cloning an image to London :-) |
| 15:35 | <Napta> | we won't have it! |
| 15:35 | * | Napta calls the uk boarder patrol |
| 15:35 | <mpurcell> | Not to be of any offense to theo, but the java bindings for the Linode API are pretty limited. It doesnt do much but abstract the actual HTTP query and return JSON objects. |
| 15:36 | <mpurcell> | instead of returning Linode objects and such. |
| 15:36 | <mpurcell> | -.- |
| 15:36 | <Napta> | who was that crazy author who wrote the recommended python bindings?! |
| 15:36 | <Napta> | That scared me the hell off |
| 15:36 | <Napta> | Although thankfully there are others |
| 15:36 | <mpurcell> | I am writing my own bindings, but I need to know what those status values are -.- |
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| 15:37 | <Peng> | I cloned an image from London once... :) |
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| 15:37 | <cerulean> | Napta: they only care about images involving incitement to terrorism |
| 15:37 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:37 | <Lordicon> | Never mind my way didnt work to fix the database connection lol |
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| 15:38 | <mpurcell> | mikegrb: any clue on the answer to my questions? |
| 15:38 | <chesty> | mikegrb: is a dike bot |
| 15:38 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:38 | <chesty> | she just responds to lol |
| 15:38 | <Napta> | I wonder what the most frequent API calls are? :D |
| 15:39 | <Napta> | any reports available? :D |
| 15:39 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 15:39 | <chesty> | and cake |
| 15:39 | <Lordicon> | Ok here is the issue http://pastebin.com/m50d0b724 |
| 15:40 | <Lordicon> | changing ip in my.cnf to 0.0.0.0 did not work as well |
| 15:41 | <Lordicon> | im going to google real fast a bit more see if i can find something |
| 15:42 | <chesty> | Lordicon: what does telnet ip 3306 say? |
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| 15:43 | <Lordicon> | No idea |
| 15:43 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:43 | <Lordicon> | How do I check? Im a noob lol |
| 15:43 | <chesty> | type "telnet <ip> 3306" |
| 15:43 | <Lordicon> | in dos? or in my SSH? |
| 15:43 | <chesty> | both |
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| 15:44 | <Lordicon> | cant use it in dos |
| 15:44 | <Lordicon> | windows vista |
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| 15:44 | <chesty> | it should have telnet? you can use putty though |
| 15:44 | <Lordicon> | ill use SSH |
| 15:45 | <Napta> | cerulean: vista and above lacks telnet, afaik |
| 15:45 | <Napta> | Just to like, further annoy people and save 32kb of disk space |
| 15:45 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 15:45 | <Lordicon> | ROFL Command not found in SSH |
| 15:46 | <chesty> | Lordicon: netstat -pnlt | grep 3306 on your linode |
| 15:46 | <Lordicon> | there u go i can do that |
| 15:46 | <Lordicon> | 3360 before IP or after? |
| 15:46 | <Lordicon> | 3306* |
| 15:47 | <chesty> | netstat -pnlt | grep 3306 |
| 15:47 | <Lordicon> | do i do that in SSH or dos? |
| 15:47 | <chesty> | <chesty> Lordicon: netstat -pnlt | grep 3306 on your linode |
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| 15:48 | <Napta> | perhaps his linode runs dos |
| 15:48 | <Napta> | Mine runs TOPS-20 :D |
| 15:48 | <BarkerJr> | Napta: I bet you could run a kickass quake one server on a dos vps |
| 15:48 | <Lordicon> | ok I got, tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
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| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | oops |
| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | LISTEN 2246/mysqld |
| 15:49 | <chesty> | ok, it's not listening to remote connections |
| 15:49 | <chesty> | did you restart it? |
| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | So how do I get it too? |
| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | yeah restarted it a few times |
| 15:49 | <Napta> | do you want mysql listening for remote connections? |
| 15:49 | <Napta> | is the application not local too ? |
| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | yes |
| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | yes |
| 15:49 | <Napta> | .. |
| 15:49 | <Napta> | so the answer is no |
| 15:49 | <Lordicon> | correct on both |
| 15:50 | <Lordicon> | no local and want it to listen |
| 15:50 | <chesty> | pastebin my.cnf |
| 15:50 | <Lordicon> | mysql is local but php script is not |
| 15:50 | <Napta> | If the application runs on the same box as MySQL you want it running on 127.0.0.1 only, or better yet, not at all |
| 15:50 | <Napta> | use a unix domain socket |
| 15:50 | <Napta> | oh right |
| 15:50 | <Napta> | my misunderstanding |
| 15:50 | <BarkerJr> | remove the ip line from my.cnf |
| 15:50 | <BarkerJr> | defaults to 0.0.0.0 |
| 15:50 | <Lordicon> | let me show you my line |
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| 15:51 | <Lordicon> | http://pastebin.com/m2be3f46 |
| 15:51 | <Lordicon> | Have a look |
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| 15:52 | <BarkerJr> | so just comment out the bind-address line |
| 15:52 | <Lordicon> | And it should work? |
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| 15:53 | <BarkerJr> | does for me |
| 15:53 | <chesty> | the bind-address line is correct though |
| 15:53 | <Lordicon> | ill try it and see |
| 15:53 | <BarkerJr> | I run tons of servers with mysqld open to the world |
| 15:54 | <BarkerJr> | course I'm running the best distro, centos |
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| 15:54 | <Lordicon> | I have to reboot after each edit right? |
| 15:55 | <chesty> | no |
| 15:55 | <BarkerJr> | no, just restart mysqld |
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| 15:55 | <Lordicon> | well it works now however now i have another problem |
| 15:56 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:56 | <Lordicon> | It says my web host is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server WTF!!!! lol |
| 15:57 | <Lordicon> | and now i need a smoke and lost my lighter god can this day get any worse |
| 15:57 | <chesty> | netstat -pnlt | grep 3306 on your linode |
| 15:57 | <Lordicon> | brb lighting smoke off toaster |
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| 15:58 | <Lordicon> | Says tcp 0 0.0.0.0.0:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2277/mysqld |
| 15:59 | <BarkerJr> | why can't they connect? |
| 15:59 | <Lordicon> | No idea says they are not allowed |
| 15:59 | <Lordicon> | sec ill show you |
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| 15:59 | <Lordicon> | Host 'jalal.lunarbreeze.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server |
| 16:00 | <BarkerJr> | grant it access :) |
| 16:00 | <Lordicon> | and give my connection line |
| 16:00 | <Lordicon> | How do you grant that access? |
| 16:01 | <Napta> | You probably want GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON 'user'@'remote-host' IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; |
| 16:01 | <Lordicon> | I have access myself |
| 16:02 | <Napta> | although reading the mysql documentation is a far supirior idea to accepting a stranger's mysql acl |
| 16:02 | <Lordicon> | ill do it again though |
| 16:02 | <Napta> | especially mysql, heh |
| 16:02 | <anders1> | no: grant all privileges on `database` to 'user'@'remote-host' identified by 'pass' |
| 16:02 | <Napta> | You should see my PL/SQL knowledge (or lack thereof) |
| 16:02 | <Napta> | anders1: ah, yes |
| 16:02 | <Napta> | see that right there |
| 16:02 | <Lordicon> | whooo getting ahead of me |
| 16:02 | <Lordicon> | why no? |
| 16:02 | <Napta> | My boss should fire me |
| 16:02 | <BarkerJr> | do you possibly have 127.0.0.1 resolving to jalal.lunarbreeze.com instead of localhost? |
| 16:03 | <Lordicon> | I am trying to have lnarbreeze.com connect to my server |
| 16:03 | <Lordicon> | Im unsure of what your asking me |
| 16:04 | <Lordicon> | I have no idea how to allow them to connect |
| 16:04 | <BarkerJr> | in /etc/hosts, what is 127.0.0.1 defined as? |
| 16:05 | <Lordicon> | I believe to localhost not sure |
| 16:05 | <BarkerJr> | ok, good |
| 16:05 | <Lordicon> | or could be aionrenegade |
| 16:05 | <Lordicon> | ill have to look |
| 16:06 | <Lordicon> | yeah its localhosts |
| 16:07 | <Lordicon> | however under hosts-allow there is nothing |
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| 16:09 | <Napta> | streaming 720p via youtube, amazing |
| 16:09 | <Napta> | Not long until actual NAS lives in the cloud |
| 16:09 | <Napta> | my* |
| 16:09 | <Lordicon> | should i do ALL: LOCAL @jalal.lunarbreeze.com under the /etc/host-allow?? |
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| 16:14 | <Lordicon> | still alive or run out of ideas? |
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| 16:16 | <chesty> | did you do the grant priviledges? |
| 16:16 | <Lordicon> | what am i granting privlages on?? lunarbreeze? |
| 16:18 | <Lordicon> | I found this example should I do something like this for their host? |
| 16:18 | <Lordicon> | mysql> update db set Host='202.54.10.20' where Db='webdb'; |
| 16:18 | <Lordicon> | mysql> update user set Host='202.54.10.20' where user='webadmin'; |
| 16:18 | <Lordicon> | replace IP with the Lunarbreeze dns? |
| 16:21 | <Lordicon> | Or this |
| 16:22 | <Lordicon> | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON databasename.* TO usern...@192.168.1.3 |
| 16:22 | <Lordicon> | IDENTIFIED BY 'password' |
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| 16:27 | <edwin4> | hello. i'm new to this and i have some questions. |
| 16:27 | <edwin4> | does Linode allow me to install my own software on the host? |
| 16:27 | <bliblok> | Yes |
| 16:27 | <edwin4> | is the host shared though with other customers? |
| 16:27 | <Lordicon> | yes |
| 16:28 | <Lordicon> | host is shared |
| 16:28 | <bliblok> | Your linode is a virtual computer, sharing hardware with other linodes. |
| 16:28 | <edwin4> | ah |
| 16:29 | <edwin4> | in terms of access, I see Lish mentioned. can i use regular SSH too? |
| 16:29 | <bliblok> | Yes |
| 16:29 | <edwin4> | thank you |
| 16:30 | <edwin4> | if i need a certain amount of storage and then that need increases, how would that work? would i just need to pay more or would i need to migrate or something? |
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| 16:31 | <edwin4> | i mean in terms of a mySQL DB |
| 16:31 | <Peng> | You can't install software on the _host_. You can install whatever you want on your VPS, though... |
| 16:32 | <bliblok> | You can buy extra storage, but migrating to a bigger plan is recommended. |
| 16:32 | <edwin4> | thanks bliblok. it is like VMWare? |
| 16:32 | <Peng> | edwin4: What do you mean by "like VMware"? |
| 16:32 | <Peng> | And it's priced so that you'll want to upgrade to a bigger plan. |
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| 16:33 | <edwin4> | i mean it looks as if it is a different machine but it is all being "emulated" on a shared machine |
| 16:33 | <bliblok> | Correct |
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| 16:34 | <edwin4> | if i run over the bandwidth requirements, the FAQ says it allows some slack, but i want to check: it would eventually cut off the bandwidth, or would it charge more? |
| 16:35 | <Lordicon> | Thanks guys I think I have it |
| 16:35 | <Lordicon> | Alot of support in this chat.. Make me want to upgrade my server to show how much it means to me :P |
| 16:35 | <Lordicon> | Thanks all |
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| 16:36 | <Peng> | edwin4: I imagine you won't get cut off, just charged, but I do not know for sure. |
| 16:36 | <bliblok> | AFAIK they contact you before doing anything. |
| 16:37 | <@psandin> | edwin4: you can use as much bandwidth as you want, at the end of the month you'll be charged $0.10 per gigabyte over what your plan covers |
| 16:38 | <edwin4> | psadin: is there any way to set a limit on how much i could be charged? |
| 16:39 | <edwin4> | i don't want a big surprise |
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| 16:40 | <@psandin> | your bandwidth usage is shown on the dashboard of the Linode manager, but there aren't any (supported) automated tools for cutting your Linode off after a certain amount of transfer |
| 16:41 | <edwin4> | ok |
| 16:42 | <edwin4> | one more question... is it possible to do something like Remote Desktop on windows? where i could connect to the Linux machine and see it using the window manager |
| 16:43 | <Napta> | It's a shame that you can't round-robin cnames |
| 16:43 | <Peng> | Yes, but generally people don't install GUIs on servers. |
| 16:43 | <edwin4> | Peng: thanks. i wasn't sure i would want to do this, but i'm more accustomed to GUIs |
| 16:44 | <@psandin> | you can, but most people don't |
| 16:44 | <rwynn> | hi just got my first 360, it's an ubuntu server, should I just install ufw and deny all and then enable only ssh and http. Any good advice on securing it? It's pretty much just going to be nginx+tornado+mongodb. |
| 16:45 | <Peng> | rwynn: Setting up a firewall is a good idea. |
| 16:45 | <@psandin> | only listening on localhost is also a good option |
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| 16:45 | <Peng> | rwynn: So is locking down SSH, by disabling root logins, possibly disabling all password auth, possibly moving it to a different port, and installing something like DenyHosts or fail2ban. |
| 16:46 | <rwynn> | psandin: you mean only listening on localhost for the database server or other services also? |
| 16:46 | <@psandin> | anything you don't want to give public access to |
| 16:46 | <rwynn> | psandin: got ya |
| 16:47 | <@psandin> | I'll admit it I'm of a fringe opnion, but you don't need a firewall if there are no ports listening, it's hard to compromise what isn't there |
| 16:47 | <rwynn> | peng: thanks I'll look those up. I think I've read about fail2ban. |
| 16:47 | <@psandin> | also that's not the offical Linode opinion on the matter |
| 16:48 | <Peng> | psandin: I don't disagree, but a firewall is a good option in case you accidentally expose something to the Internet, or if some gains local non-root access and tries to set up a server. |
| 16:49 | <Peng> | I don't have a firewall right now, but that's only because it broke. |
| 16:49 | <Peng> | And it's nice to be able to firewall certain IPs. |
| 16:49 | <@psandin> | rwynn: http://library.linode.com/using-linux/security-basics |
| 16:49 | <Peng> | That's the main reason I want to fix it. |
| 16:51 | <@psandin> | Peng: iptables is a good tool, it's just not the magic bullet many people make it out to be |
| 16:52 | <Peng> | There is no magic bullet in security, but every little bit helps. |
| 16:53 | <rwynn> | peng: thanks that link is just what I need. this is probably overkill for what I'm doing but can anyone recommend knockd? It that more trouble than it's worth? |
| 16:56 | <edwin4> | i'm planning to use this for a Facebook app. any suggestion for what Linux distro to pick? i think my needs are a typical case... is Linode good for this? |
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| 16:57 | <SelfishMan> | port knocking is not security |
| 16:57 | <@Perihelion> | edwin4: There are a few people who use Linodes for facebook apps. |
| 16:57 | <Battousai> | it is if you have a peep hole |
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| 16:59 | <edwin4> | Perihelion: "few people" as in it generally isn't a good choice for that (why?) or "a few people" as in it may be a good choice |
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| 17:00 | * | Peng has never heard of knockd. |
| 17:00 | <edwin4> | Facebook seems to recommend AWS and such but I'm looking for something better cost/performance |
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| 17:02 | <@Perihelion> | edwin4: A few people are very successful with hosting facebook apps on Linodes |
| 17:02 | <@Perihelion> | Better? :P |
| 17:02 | <edwin4> | yes :D |
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| 17:06 | <@Perihelion> | As for a good Linux distro, you may want to look at Debian or Ubuntu if you're not familiar with Linux |
| 17:07 | <MonkeyIsland> | guys I need to enable X on my ubunto Hardy |
| 17:07 | <MonkeyIsland> | can't seem to find any guide on google |
| 17:07 | <MonkeyIsland> | ubuntu* |
| 17:07 | <@psandin> | MonkeyIsland: what are you trying to do? have you installed xauth? |
| 17:08 | <MonkeyIsland> | no, I haven't. I'm trying to run a program and it needs X |
| 17:09 | <MonkeyIsland> | I'll install xauth now |
| 17:09 | <MonkeyIsland> | any steps after that? |
| 17:09 | <@psandin> | and remember to use the -X or -Y flags when you ssh in |
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| 17:10 | <MonkeyIsland> | the program is getting run by Wine |
| 17:10 | <MonkeyIsland> | this is the error I get: |
| 17:10 | <MonkeyIsland> | Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. |
| 17:10 | <MonkeyIsland> | Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly. |
| 17:11 | <@psandin> | xauth will set $DISPLAY after it is installed |
| 17:11 | <MonkeyIsland> | ok lets try |
| 17:12 | <BeBoo> | Who developed the iPhone app? |
| 17:13 | <@psandin> | BeBoo: jed did |
| 17:13 | <BeBoo> | jed: you around? :-) |
| 17:13 | <edwin4> | ok. i'm going for it. thanks everyone. |
| 17:13 | <Napta> | hrmp, seems pingdom fails to run ICMP check-tests |
| 17:13 | <MonkeyIsland> | psandin: still getting the same. is there some kind of enabling after testing? |
| 17:14 | <MonkeyIsland> | after installing* |
| 17:14 | <@Perihelion> | edwin4: If you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask :) |
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| 17:14 | <@psandin> | try running "echo $DISPLAY", it should print ":10" |
| 17:15 | <MonkeyIsland> | I get blank |
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| 17:16 | <@psandin> | MonkeyIsland: hmm, give me a moment I'm going to try and set it up myself |
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| 17:16 | <MonkeyIsland> | psandin: THANK YOU! |
| 17:16 | <opello> | you'll need to start a new session if you connected without xauth installed |
| 17:16 | <jtsage> | MonkeyIsland- check and see if x11 forwarding is explicitly denied in sshd_config (somewhere in /etc). i used to be on some distributions. |
| 17:17 | <MonkeyIsland> | x11 forwaring is set to yes, I set that to yes in fact. after that I upgraded, but no reboot. |
| 17:17 | <MonkeyIsland> | hope that does the trick? |
| 17:17 | <MonkeyIsland> | safe-upgrade and full-upgrade ... |
| 17:18 | <jtsage> | probably. you could throw a restart at sshd to be sure. (something along the lines of /etc/init.d/sshd restart - this is dist dependant to some degree) |
| 17:18 | <jtsage> | otherwise, opello makes a good point. it has been *ages* since i've messed with forwarding from a headless machine, i'm more than a little rusty |
| 17:18 | <MonkeyIsland> | how long the restarting takes? I have many users on the site now |
| 17:19 | <jtsage> | the ssh daemon? almost instantly. not sure what dist you are using, but ubuntu doesn't close existing connections when it's restarted (i only recommend restarting sshd, not the whole machine) |
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| 17:21 | <hi> | hi can someone who uses the oxford debian 5.0 mirror tell me if 'deb http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian/ lenny main contrib' is okay for sources.list |
| 17:21 | <MonkeyIsland> | I use ubuntu 8.04 and there's no sshd in my init.d |
| 17:21 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: /etc/init.d/ssh |
| 17:21 | <eighty4> | will restart the sshd |
| 17:22 | <opello> | if you add " restart" to it :) |
| 17:22 | <eighty4> | and sudo |
| 17:22 | <eighty4> | if not root |
| 17:22 | <opello> | well, heh |
| 17:22 | <jtsage> | what eighty4 said. heh. apparently i haven't needed to do that lately either. (tab completion ftw) |
| 17:22 | <MonkeyIsland> | I have ssh not sshd |
| 17:22 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: ssh will restart the daemon |
| 17:23 | <MonkeyIsland> | ok restarted |
| 17:23 | <MonkeyIsland> | and the problem remains still |
| 17:23 | <eighty4> | I wonder why they named the script ssh when the app is called sshd |
| 17:23 | <chesty> | ssh -X linode |
| 17:23 | <hi> | :o |
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| 17:24 | <hi> | can someone tell me if 'deb http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian/ lenny main contrib' in /etc/apt/sources.list on Debian 5 will be correct |
| 17:24 | <edwin4> | does Debian or Ubuntu come with PHP5 and/or MySQL preinstalled? |
| 17:24 | <hi> | never touched this before, but columbia takes ages |
| 17:25 | <@psandin> | edwin4: none of our images come with PHP or MySQL preinstalled |
| 17:25 | <@Perihelion> | edwin4: No but you can follow the guides here: http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ |
| 17:25 | <@psandin> | Perihelion: well aren't you miss helpful :P |
| 17:25 | <edwin4> | cool. thanks |
| 17:25 | <mwalling> | psandin: bitter? |
| 17:25 | <@psandin> | mwalling: yes |
| 17:26 | <eighty4> | hi: then try a different mirror :) |
| 17:26 | <hi> | eighty4 i'm asking a q above that.. |
| 17:26 | <mwalling> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mwalling/4335593606/ <-- this is what happens when the warning clip falls off |
| 17:26 | <jtsage> | hi - it is a valid mirror in the UK, yes. |
| 17:26 | <eighty4> | hi: you're asking if the line looks ok. |
| 17:26 | <hi> | yes, is it right? |
| 17:26 | <hi> | :| |
| 17:26 | <@psandin> | MonkeyIsland: do you have a ~/.Xauthority file? |
| 17:26 | <hi> | the columbia one had /lots/more/of/this at the end |
| 17:26 | <hi> | ;p |
| 17:26 | <eighty4> | hi: if apt doesn't complain I guess it should be fine |
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| 17:27 | <MonkeyIsland> | psandin: I don't |
| 17:27 | <MonkeyIsland> | I looke din /home/myUserName/ |
| 17:27 | <MonkeyIsland> | looked in* |
| 17:27 | <hi> | jed : was it you who helped me add oxford before? ;p |
| 17:27 | <hi> | before i broke the linode ;p |
| 17:28 | <@psandin> | MonkeyIsland: I just deployed a fresh 8.04 instance, ran "apt-get update", "apt-get install xauth x11-apps", disconnected and reconnected with the -X option and xauth created the authority file and set $DISPLAY |
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| 17:28 | <MonkeyIsland> | I didn |
| 17:28 | <MonkeyIsland> | t' install x11-apps |
| 17:28 | <@psandin> | in theory that's all it should take, be reality just has to go be complicated |
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| 17:30 | <jtsage> | hi: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list has a list of all of them, and yes, the columbia.edu has a longer path than that oxford one |
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| 17:30 | * | eighty4 wants to be able to say "just deploayed a fresh xxx" as well (without the need to pay for it :P) |
| 17:30 | <chesty> | MonkeyIsland: did you log off? |
| 17:31 | <@psandin> | eighty4: clear up some disk space for testing :P |
| 17:31 | <eighty4> | psandin: 8gb image, 8gb copy. No space left :( |
| 17:31 | <MonkeyIsland> | yes and started my new session twice |
| 17:32 | <chesty> | what are you using for ssh on the client end? |
| 17:32 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: tried both -X and -Y? |
| 17:32 | <MonkeyIsland> | echo $DISPLAY gives me a blank new line |
| 17:32 | <MonkeyIsland> | what command exactly? |
| 17:32 | <chesty> | is the client linux? |
| 17:32 | <eighty4> | chesty: should that matter? As long as it's some kind of X |
| 17:33 | <@psandin> | there's no local xserver on windows to forward to |
| 17:33 | <opello> | you can install xming though |
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| 17:33 | <MonkeyIsland> | getting confused |
| 17:33 | <eighty4> | or vnc |
| 17:33 | <chesty> | is the client linux? |
| 17:33 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: your local computer, is it running windows? |
| 17:33 | <opello> | or "what are you connecting from" |
| 17:33 | <MonkeyIsland> | yes, XP2 |
| 17:34 | <MonkeyIsland> | XP SP2 |
| 17:34 | <opello> | putty? |
| 17:34 | <MonkeyIsland> | yes |
| 17:34 | <opello> | did you check the 'x11 forwarding' box? |
| 17:34 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: right, then you need to install X on your local computer as well |
| 17:34 | <eighty4> | or does putty have support for it? |
| 17:34 | <opello> | no |
| 17:34 | <opello> | just establishing the connection |
| 17:34 | <MonkeyIsland> | why? I'm trying to run a program on my server, what it has to do with my local pc? |
| 17:35 | <chesty> | your local pc is the display for the server |
| 17:35 | <opello> | MonkeyIsland: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/files/Xming/6.9.0.31/Xming-6-9-0-31-setup.exe/download |
| 17:35 | <@psandin> | X is the display protocol, the app runs on the server, but displays where ever X is |
| 17:35 | <opello> | MonkeyIsland: install that |
| 17:35 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: x11 is linux grapical display, you need something to forward to. |
| 17:35 | <MonkeyIsland> | ok, I got that. please clear me on this: |
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| 17:36 | <MonkeyIsland> | The program needs to open a window to convert something and its output is an image getting saved. this will be like a file converter |
| 17:36 | <opello> | xvfb? |
| 17:36 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Better than expected!.. Simply the best! in Customer Testimonials <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5162>; |
| 17:36 | <MonkeyIsland> | so a user on the site, uploads a file, this program gets it, and converts it to an image. |
| 17:37 | <opello> | or create a tool that doesn't require the gui |
| 17:37 | <MonkeyIsland> | and the program needs to open a window. |
| 17:37 | <opello> | "needs"? |
| 17:38 | <MonkeyIsland> | it is a "windows" program that I'm running it via wine |
| 17:38 | <opello> | anyway |
| 17:38 | <@psandin> | what kinde of conversion is it? have you looked at imagemagick? |
| 17:38 | <opello> | xvfb or rewrite the tool :) |
| 17:38 | <opello> | or that :) |
| 17:38 | <thegodlikehobo> | MonkeyIsland: what are you converting, exactly? in all likelihood there's a command line program which can do the same thing. |
| 17:38 | <MonkeyIsland> | the program is written only for my propose. I"ve tested it on my local linux (with VM) and works |
| 17:39 | <thegodlikehobo> | then rewrite it so it doesnt need a gui |
| 17:39 | <thegodlikehobo> | :3 |
| 17:39 | <eighty4> | psandin: imagemagic >< gd2 ftw! |
| 17:39 | <MonkeyIsland> | It is not that simple. I've been struggling with it for like 10 months. |
| 17:39 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: if it's written for you it seems stupid to write it using gui |
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| 17:40 | <MonkeyIsland> | no. the program connects to a game. |
| 17:40 | <MonkeyIsland> | the game is not written for me :) |
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| 17:40 | <MonkeyIsland> | I've tested the whole thing locally and it works (on my VM linux) |
| 17:41 | <MonkeyIsland> | the whole thing on my linode, tell me that the program want to open a window and it fails. |
| 17:41 | <MonkeyIsland> | so I don't care to see the window the program tried to open. I want to just let it open its window and do its joh |
| 17:41 | <MonkeyIsland> | job* |
| 17:41 | <eighty4> | it's not a very smart idea to run X on your node from the start. It take a lot of RAM and CPU that's just wasted |
| 17:41 | <linbot> | New news from forums: iPhone App? in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4386>; |
| 17:42 | <@jed> | answer: yes |
| 17:42 | <MonkeyIsland> | I know. but I have to do this. |
| 17:42 | <MonkeyIsland> | after 10 months, I gotta get it out of my system |
| 17:43 | <eighty4> | :) |
| 17:43 | * | eighty4 knows the feeling |
| 17:43 | <eighty4> | Then why do you need x-forwarding? You just needs X right? |
| 17:43 | <MonkeyIsland> | can I send the X to a deadend? I mean instead of a client to recieve the X, just a deadend so that the program is happy opening its X ? |
| 17:44 | <MonkeyIsland> | yes exactly |
| 17:44 | <MonkeyIsland> | never said I need x forwarding :) |
| 17:44 | <MonkeyIsland> | just enable X |
| 17:45 | <eighty4> | I've never done anything like that but feels like it should be possible |
| 17:46 | <MonkeyIsland> | :'( |
| 17:47 | <MonkeyIsland> | psandin: Do you know how to just enable X? |
| 17:48 | <@psandin> | nope, in theory as eighty4 says there's no reason a null X server can't exist, but I've sure never heard of one |
| 17:49 | <MonkeyIsland> | what if we set wrong values as for client? |
| 17:49 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: I'm still not getting why you need it. Are the game running on your node? |
| 17:50 | <MonkeyIsland> | it is uploaded there yes |
| 17:51 | <eighty4> | uploaded isn't the same as running |
| 17:51 | <MonkeyIsland> | running? no. I send a gamefile to the game.exe, it exports something out of my file. but to do that, it needs to open a window. |
| 17:51 | <chesty> | "needs" |
| 17:51 | <chesty> | install vnc server |
| 17:51 | <MonkeyIsland> | it closes its window after the export is done. |
| 17:51 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: game.exe is run on a different machine? |
| 17:52 | <MonkeyIsland> | no. same on my site |
| 17:52 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: on the server you have a couple of images that you want to play with? |
| 17:52 | <MonkeyIsland> | I'm really sorry if I say this wrong, here are exactly the steps. |
| 17:53 | <MonkeyIsland> | 1. there's game.exe lying around, does nothing normally. but originally it is a windows program. |
| 17:53 | <eighty4> | is game.exe run on the node? In a vm? |
| 17:53 | <MonkeyIsland> | 2. I pass my custom file to it, so that it convert it for me: |
| 17:54 | <MonkeyIsland> | 3. "wine game.exe myFile.ext /convert" gotta be run at terminal |
| 17:55 | <MonkeyIsland> | 4. game.exe starts to convert, but its must show a window that how much percentage it has done. |
| 17:55 | <chesty> | "must" |
| 17:56 | <eighty4> | you could probably pass something to wine so that it doesn't open window |
| 17:56 | <MonkeyIsland> | 5. when I run it on the linode, it says: Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. |
| 17:57 | <MonkeyIsland> | it means, the game.exe tried to show the window which is saying how much percentage it has done, but it can't, and th whole thing fails |
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| 17:58 | <linbot> | New news from forums: account credited during cancellation in Customer Testimonials <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4263>; |
| 17:58 | <MonkeyIsland> | "you could probably pass something to wine so that it doesn't open window" <-- interesting! so wine mute it, and the program mutely does its job? |
| 17:58 | <eighty4> | and you cant pass an argument to game.exe preventing it from opening the window? If it's only for showing a % bar it's not really needed, right? |
| 17:59 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: I have no idea if it's possible. Haven't played with Wine |
| 17:59 | <MonkeyIsland> | game.exe code is not in my hand, and it is very old, so that's not my option |
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| 18:03 | <MonkeyIsland> | and worth to notice, the whole thing works on my linux locally. |
| 18:04 | <linbot> | New news from forums: getting denyhost hits from other linode users in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5147>; || Can't Sign Up? in Sales Questions and Answers <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5151>; |
| 18:04 | <chesty> | there is a wine null display driver, i have no idea how it works, try #wine |
| 18:05 | <MonkeyIsland> | I'll try now. |
| 18:09 | <eighty4> | Running something local and then managing to do it on a server isn't the same, sadly. |
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| 18:15 | * | nb just lost the game |
| 18:15 | * | psandin just lost the game too and blames nb |
| 18:15 | * | nb lost the game because of someone talking about game.exe lol |
| 18:16 | * | KingTarquin sighs. |
| 18:16 | <KingTarquin> | Twice in one day. |
| 18:16 | <thegodlikehobo> | that's what she said |
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| 18:18 | <mpurcell> | uys, where are the kernel sources |
| 18:18 | <mpurcell> | guys* |
| 18:18 | <@jed> | I wish I had authority to ban anybody who made me lose |
| 18:18 | <@jed> | you guys suck |
| 18:19 | * | psandin hugs jed |
| 18:19 | <@psandin> | it's ok, we can be losers together |
| 18:19 | <@psandin> | mpurcell: linode.com/src/ |
| 18:20 | <chesty> | what game? |
| 18:20 | <chesty> | was lost? |
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| 18:20 | <nb> | The Game. |
| 18:21 | <nb> | http://losethegame.com |
| 18:21 | <@psandin> | there's a website |
| 18:21 | <@psandin> | ? |
| 18:21 | <nb> | yes |
| 18:21 | <@psandin> | of course there is, there's a website for everything |
| 18:21 | <Peng> | Oh, the discussion of game.exe didn't make me lose, but nb just did. :( |
| 18:22 | <jbartus> | any chance of fedora12 becoming a supported istro soon? |
| 18:22 | <@psandin> | jbartus: we're working on it, and aiming for soon |
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| 18:23 | <jbartus> | cool, i assume that means not this weekend though |
| 18:23 | <@psandin> | not that soon |
| 18:24 | <jbartus> | i was gonna migrate off slicehost tonight but didn't occur to me to check if f12 was avail |
| 18:24 | <@caker> | you can yum upgrade to f12 |
| 18:24 | <@psandin> | if you've got an existing f12 server you can migrate that |
| 18:24 | <nb> | install fedora 11, yum upgrade, then rpm -Uvh the fedora-release from f12, then yum update |
| 18:24 | <@pparadis> | we'll be releasing updated distro templates soon, no promises on exactly when, but soon |
| 18:24 | <nb> | although what i actually do is boot into finnix and extract an image from stacklet.com |
| 18:24 | <BeBoo> | Jed: <jed> answer: yes << yes you have an objection? |
| 18:24 | <jbartus> | yea i'm lookin at the docs for that now: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq#Fedora_11_-.3E_Fedora_12 |
| 18:25 | <jbartus> | finnix? |
| 18:25 | <@jed> | BeBoo: when I said "yes" all I read was "iPhone app?" |
| 18:25 | <BeBoo> | oh. i replied to that thread |
| 18:25 | <BeBoo> | you were the last to post on it |
| 18:25 | <Peng> | jbartus: Finnix is the rescue distro. |
| 18:25 | <steffan> | Any plans for an application for Blackberry in the future? |
| 18:26 | <BeBoo> | crackberry |
| 18:26 | <jbartus> | so you can somehow use the rescue distro to install an image from stacklet.com? |
| 18:26 | <jbartus> | is there a howto |
| 18:26 | <BeBoo> | jed: I was wondering if anyone would have an objection to me making an Android app similar to the iPhone app. |
| 18:26 | <jbartus> | and how do i know what stacklet.com did to tweak the setup? |
| 18:27 | <@jed> | not my call |
| 18:27 | <Peng> | !library custom |
| 18:27 | <BeBoo> | who's call? caker's? |
| 18:27 | <linbot> | Peng: 1. Custom Distro HowTo (http://bitl.in/veci) - 2. Running Custom Kernels with PV-GRUB (http://bitl.in/r7os) - 3. Install MySQL on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/ej5o) |
| 18:27 | <@caker> | I don't have any objections, BeBoo |
| 18:27 | <BeBoo> | awesome |
| 18:27 | <jbartus> | nice, irc bots, this so takes me back |
| 18:27 | <chesty> | just don't call it linode manager |
| 18:28 | <Peng> | BeBoo: The iPhone app (almost?) just uses the public API, so it should be possible to replicate it. :) |
| 18:28 | <BeBoo> | I already started it a little bit. login is done and listing linodes. |
| 18:28 | <BeBoo> | Peng: thats what I am doing =] |
| 18:28 | <@jed> | Peng: entirely uses the public API |
| 18:28 | <BeBoo> | jed: how were the graphs retrieved? |
| 18:28 | <Peng> | Yeah, I thought graphs didn't use the public API. |
| 18:29 | <Peng> | jbartus: Anyway, see the custom distro howto link for, well, how to upload a custom distro. :P |
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| 18:30 | <@jed> | graphs work with API keys, but the facility to get them is undocumented at this point |
| 18:30 | <jbartus> | yea this looks nifty but about 10x more work than i'd do... i guess i'll just reinstall my existing slice and re-eval migrating in a month |
| 18:30 | <@caker> | jbartus: yum upgrading is like one or two commands, I believe |
| 18:30 | <BeBoo> | jed: would you be willing to share this facility info? :) |
| 18:30 | <Peng> | jtsage: Currently there's a movie about LAPD cops vs. a tentacle alien on. And it has Ron Glass! :D |
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| 18:31 | <@jed> | BeBoo: not at this time |
| 18:31 | <jtsage> | peng - quite. it's on here - sadly, 'this' went blank screen for about an hour this afternoon, i just flipped back |
| 18:31 | <jbartus> | caker: any personal experience? the fedora wiki page on it is a touch pessimistic |
| 18:31 | <Peng> | jtsage: Although the IMDb gives it a completely different description. But still Ron Glass. |
| 18:31 | <BeBoo> | very well |
| 18:31 | <chesty> | time to reverse engineer |
| 18:32 | <Peng> | Ah, never mind. The expanded description is the same. |
| 18:32 | <@caker> | jtsage: lemme try it .. give me a few |
| 18:33 | * | eighty4 just lost the game since he scrolled back to se if MonkeyIsland solved is problem. I blame nb and MonkeyIsland! |
| 18:33 | <Peng> | Ohh, now I lost again! Unless this is still within the grace period? |
| 18:34 | <eighty4> | Peng: if you've forgotten about losing the grace period is over, imo |
| 18:34 | <jtsage> | heh |
| 18:35 | <@caker> | er, jbartus: --^ |
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| 18:36 | * | jtsage figured that out after some brief confusion :) |
| 18:37 | <mpurcell> | caker: what are the status codes for a Linode.list request? |
| 18:37 | <mpurcell> | They are not in the API reference, but they are numeric |
| 18:40 | <@jed> | off the top of my head I want to say 0, 1, 2 -- never touched, running, powered off |
| 18:40 | <mpurcell> | thanks jed |
| 18:41 | <@caker> | jbartus: upgrading .. currently three commands :) ... will let you know how it goes once done |
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| 18:42 | <jbartus> | cool, thanks |
| 18:42 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: how's it going? |
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| 18:44 | <mwalling> | take it linode world headquarters lost power/internets? |
| 18:45 | <steffan> | or it's just the weekend |
| 18:45 | <@tasaro> | ? |
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| 18:46 | <mwalling> | tasaro: jed's cameras no workey |
| 18:47 | <@jed> | only one or two now? |
| 18:47 | <@tasaro> | 2/3 are up for me |
| 18:47 | <mwalling> | upper left (tree branch?) has a funny looking ghost |
| 18:47 | <@jed> | I'm hoping the USB failed |
| 18:47 | <@jed> | and that it didn't, say, fall into the snow and die |
| 18:47 | <mwalling> | upper right was dark static, couldnt tell over RDP if that was an image or not |
| 18:48 | <MonkeyIsland> | eighty4: I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:48 | <@jed> | yeah, it's snow against the window |
| 18:48 | <@caker> | [root@li62-130 ~][root@li62-130 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release |
| 18:48 | <@caker> | Fedora release 12 (Constantine) |
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| 18:48 | <@caker> | boomn. |
| 18:48 | <@caker> | boom, even. |
| 18:48 | <jforman> | jed: send some of that snow up here, we're kinda bored with no snow on the ground in boston |
| 18:48 | <MonkeyIsland> | eighty4: after 10 months running xDDDDD |
| 18:48 | <@psandin> | jforman: can you send a truck down to get it, we've got plenty to share |
| 18:49 | <eighty4> | MonkeyIsland: nice :) |
| 18:49 | <@tasaro> | http://is.gd/7Qmfv even |
| 18:49 | <mwalling> | jforman: i still dont know what DC/Deleware/Jersey are talking about... they're just having some flurries |
| 18:49 | <jforman> | mwalling: heh, you're over in rochester, right? |
| 18:49 | <eighty4> | jforman: We have like 70cm here... come get it |
| 18:49 | <mwalling> | jforman: no, thats HoopyCat , i'm in NyCap |
| 18:49 | <groulder> | is fremont having some latency issues? |
| 18:49 | <@jed> | alright, found the archive |
| 18:49 | <@jed> | let's scroll to the end and see what happened |
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| 18:49 | <mpurcell-> | flurries my ass |
| 18:49 | <jforman> | mwalling: ahh, i spend 2 years at syr.edu, these middle-atlantic fools dont know what they are doing |
| 18:49 | <jforman> | *spent |
| 18:49 | * | mpurcell- has 4 feet drifts |
| 18:50 | <mpurcell-> | and im delaware |
| 18:50 | <mwalling> | jforman: JshWright lives in cuse |
| 18:50 | <@caker> | jbartus: http://p.linode.com/3460 |
| 18:50 | <mwalling> | groulder: you're the first to complain... pastebin a mtr? |
| 18:50 | <@jed> | http://www.justin.tv/jedsmith/archive <- the entire blizzard |
| 18:50 | <mwalling> | !mtr |
| 18:50 | <linbot> | mtr combines the functionality of traceroute and ping into one easy to use tool, and the output can be useful for determining where the source of a problem is. It can be downloaded from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows. MTR summaries can be retrieved in-channel using the command !mtr-CITY where CITY is fremont, atlanta, newark, dallas or london. |
| 18:50 | <@tasaro> | groulder: not that we are aware of -- where are you located? can you pastebin an mtr --report ? |
| 18:50 | <jforman> | mwalling: ahh. its pretty damn cold here, but all the snow has melted |
| 18:50 | <mwalling> | !pb |
| 18:50 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 18:50 | <mwalling> | tasaro: i win |
| 18:50 | <groulder> | i usually get ~180ms to my linode, this morning i'm getting ~260ms |
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| 18:51 | <chesty> | i just lost |
| 18:51 | <Peng> | groulder: traceroute/mtr |
| 18:51 | <mwalling> | chesty: last |
| 18:51 | <Peng> | chesty: The game? Cuz I just did. |
| 18:51 | <sub> | is there any type of waiting period between generating an API key and using the API? I'm trying to use test.echo via curl and getting auth denied using basic auth |
| 18:51 | <jforman> | psandin: i'll send some trucks down, we'll have our unions work with yours, it'll be an easy job |
| 18:51 | <mpurcell-> | sub: instant |
| 18:51 | <@psandin> | unions, easy job? surely you jest |
| 18:52 | <jforman> | 'course |
| 18:52 | <@jed> | 2:42a, camera was still up but covered in snow |
| 18:52 | <@jed> | yikes |
| 18:52 | <@jed> | it died before 3 am |
| 18:52 | <@jed> | before 3:21am, it appears |
| 18:52 | <sub> | eh, weird. wonder why i'm getting auth denied then |
| 18:52 | <@jed> | ...and it went black first |
| 18:52 | <@jed> | that's not a good sign |
| 18:53 | <groulder> | hmmm, it's ok now. |
| 18:53 | <groulder> | lasted around 15mins. |
| 18:53 | <mwalling> | groulder: nexttime, come with an MTR in hand when its failing... its a good diagnostic tool |
| 18:53 | <sub> | works if I put the key in the URL, but not using basic auth, very weird |
| 18:53 | <sub> | url is fine enough |
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| 18:54 | <groulder> | running windows. tracert is the best it gets. |
| 18:54 | <jbartus> | caker: wow, thank you |
| 18:54 | <mwalling> | groulder: lies |
| 18:54 | <mwalling> | !mtr |
| 18:54 | <linbot> | mtr combines the functionality of traceroute and ping into one easy to use tool, and the output can be useful for determining where the source of a problem is. It can be downloaded from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows. MTR summaries can be retrieved in-channel using the command !mtr-CITY where CITY is fremont, atlanta, newark, dallas or london. |
| 18:54 | <mwalling> | ^^ " or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows." |
| 18:54 | <groulder> | well i'll be. thanks. |
| 18:55 | <jtsage> | Peng - "at the earth's core" @9p. great movie... in a sense... |
| 18:55 | <Peng> | jtsage: It is? |
| 18:55 | <Peng> | jtsage: What sense is that?> |
| 18:56 | <Peng> | Oh, "Deep Space" isn't on yet. It's just the end of "Android". |
| 18:56 | <Peng> | I haven't been watching TV today, just looking at the schedules a bit. |
| 18:56 | <jtsage> | vs. the crap they have had on lately it's a step up. and really, victorian age explores vs. wierd crap they find inside the earth... doesn't get much better than that |
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| 18:59 | <groulder> | so with this mtr, i'm getting 'no response from host' for all hops except the final destination. |
| 18:59 | <Peng> | Awesome. |
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| 18:59 | <Peng> | How completely unhelpful of you, groulder's ISP and various backbones! |
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| 19:06 | <Peng> | jtsage: Oh no! Our reception for This is terrible! |
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| 19:06 | <jtsage> | heh. i think it's the feed, mine has been breaking up all day too. although, it could also be the snow here |
| 19:07 | <Peng> | How would the feed lead to bad reception from two different stations, though? |
| 19:08 | <jtsage> | if whereever it is originating from is screwy. i suspect it's rather bare-bones on staff, a fine station like this... |
| 19:09 | <Peng> | I'd expect a different situation, though. It seems like normal bad reception. |
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| 19:15 | <KingTarquin> | I can't delete a directory that's under subversion, it keeps saying I can't recursively delete a directory because it contains child-nodes, but there's nothing in the directory, and its still saying that. |
| 19:17 | <@psandin> | KingTarquin: try "ls -a", the subversion metadata is probably still there in .svn |
| 19:17 | <KingTarquin> | Ah. |
| 19:17 | * | KingTarquin goes a-deleting |
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| 19:21 | <groulder> | you around tasaro? |
| 19:22 | <kronos003> | fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied |
| 19:22 | <kronos003> | how do i fix that on centos - other than running it as root |
| 19:26 | <@tasaro> | groulder: what's up? |
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| 19:26 | <groulder> | i ran mtr from my linode |
| 19:26 | <groulder> | looks the same as yours now. |
| 19:26 | <groulder> | 5mins ago avg was ~300ms |
| 19:26 | <groulder> | weird. |
| 19:28 | <@tasaro> | it's the internet.. to be expected sometimes. pastebin your mtr if it happens again |
| 19:28 | <@irgeek> | kronos003: ls -l /bin/fusermount |
| 19:29 | <kronos003> | -rwsr-x--- 1 root fuse 21076 Sep 3 15:18 /bin/fusermount |
| 19:29 | <@irgeek> | Is the user you're trying to mount as in the fuse group? |
| 19:31 | <kronos003> | no - looks like i need to go through the proceedure to add that group enable it and add my username to that group |
| 19:31 | <@irgeek> | The group already exists. |
| 19:32 | <@irgeek> | Otherwise it wouldn't show up in the output of ls. |
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| 19:32 | <kronos003> | after reading i suspect the answer is chmod +x /bin/fusermount |
| 19:32 | <kronos003> | is this right - or is it a dirty way to do it |
| 19:32 | <@irgeek> | No. |
| 19:33 | <@irgeek> | The group has execute rights and already exists. |
| 19:33 | <kronos003> | ok - what is the correct command for adding myself to it - tried adduser kronos fuse |
| 19:33 | <@irgeek> | adduser <user> <group> |
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| 19:34 | <@irgeek> | What was the error you got? |
| 19:34 | <kronos003> | one sec |
| 19:34 | * | kronos003 digs up pastebin |
| 19:35 | <sub> | Might he have to re-login after adding himself to the group? |
| 19:35 | <@irgeek> | You did that as root, right? |
| 19:35 | <kronos003> | yes |
| 19:35 | <@irgeek> | sub: Yes. |
| 19:35 | <kronos003> | http://pastebin.com/m44d346f0 |
| 19:36 | <@psandin> | kronos003: sudo usermod -a -G fuse kronos |
| 19:36 | <sub> | usermod -a -G fuse kronos |
| 19:36 | <sub> | ah, beat me to it :< |
| 19:36 | <@psandin> | -a is append, -G is secondary group |
| 19:36 | <kronos003> | cool |
| 19:36 | <kronos003> | do i still have to logout? |
| 19:36 | <@psandin> | yeah |
| 19:37 | <kronos003> | k - ill be back |
| 19:37 | <@irgeek> | Pft. CentOS has a crappy version of adduser. |
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| 19:37 | <@psandin> | irgeek: that works elsewhere? I've always used usermod |
| 19:38 | <sub> | I always have, too, but after looking at adduser's man page on Ubuntu it looks like it's legal |
| 19:39 | <@psandin> | sub: so it does, crazy |
| 19:41 | <sub> | kronos has been gone a while for someone who just needed to log out and log back in |
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| 19:42 | <kronos003> | like a champ - thanks guys for saving me from the dirty fix |
| 19:44 | <sub> | phew |
| 19:48 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Postfix as secondary mail server (relay issue..) in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5161>; |
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| 19:56 | <BeBoo> | quick api question... do i need to encode special characters (like in a password, etc) when passing them to the api address? |
| 19:57 | <sub> | you need to encode special characters in any HTTP request, so yes |
| 19:57 | <BeBoo> | i figured. thanks. |
| 19:57 | <BeBoo> | perhaps I'll change my linode password and try it |
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| 20:04 | <edwin4> | hello. i have a Linode set up now. how do i "point" my domain to it? |
| 20:05 | <@psandin> | edwin4: http://library.linode.com/linode-manager/configuring-dns-with-the-linode-manager |
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| 20:08 | <edwin4> | psandin: thanks. trying it now |
| 20:10 | <@psandin> | edwin4: let me know if you have any questions |
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| 20:20 | <Yaakov> | Good evening, psandin. |
| 20:21 | <@psandin> | Yaakov: Good evening |
| 20:23 | <Peng> | jtsage: Reception still sucks. :( |
| 20:24 | <jtsage> | bummer. these are some rather fantastic aliens. |
| 20:24 | <Peng> | It almost works, but still breaks up a lot. |
| 20:25 | <Peng> | Ehh, I'm sure they'll run it again in two days. |
| 20:26 | <jtsage> | yep. 'run silent run deep' is on @12a thursday. i missed the end last time, that is actually a pretty decent film |
| 20:26 | <Peng> | Yeah, I saw parts of it twice. |
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| 20:47 | <jbartus> | how do you reinstall a linode from scratch... just delete it and create a new one? |
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| 20:52 | <chesty> | yeap |
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| 21:16 | <Peng> | jbartus: You only have to delete your disk image, not the entire nod. |
| 21:16 | <Peng> | node* |
| 21:17 | <chesty> | oh, fair enough point |
| 21:18 | <Peng> | That way you can keep your IP and don't waste $1 since it's only pro-rated to the day. |
| 21:18 | <Peng> | Plus it's easier. |
| 21:19 | <chesty> | i just assumed that's what was meant |
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| 21:23 | <jbartus> | yea unfortunatly too late |
| 21:23 | <jbartus> | so i kicked in a support ticket |
| 21:26 | <bd_> | you don't need support help to just recreate it - unless you really want your IP and your <$1 of one day's worth of rounding error |
| 21:26 | <mwalling> | SelfishMan: PING!!!! |
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| 21:27 | <SelfishMan> | eh? |
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| 21:39 | <TLKit> | caker, jed - may I PM you, it's re; new Linode (want to buy another). |
| 21:40 | <Peng> | What's to PM about? |
| 21:40 | <TLKit> | I have $50.33 in my account (in credit) or so, I want a new Linode but it wants me to use my CC again. |
| 21:41 | <snassar> | urmom wants to buy shoes |
| 21:41 | <Peng> | Oh, fun. |
| 21:42 | <@irgeek> | TLKit: If you have enough credit on your account to cover the Linode, it will use that before it hits your card. |
| 21:42 | <TLKit> | Ah. |
| 21:43 | <TLKit> | Does London have any issues with IRC? Like Atlanta? |
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| 21:43 | <Peng> | TLKit: No. |
| 21:43 | <TLKit> | Peng: Thanks. |
| 21:48 | <nb> | !newercalc 4^4^4^4 |
| 21:48 | <linbot> | nb: 10^(10^153.9069975479678) |
| 21:48 | <nb> | hmm nice |
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| 21:50 | <TLKit> | Ordered, thanks. |
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| 22:21 | <msoren> | Can you tell me if it's possible to have two username/passwords with one Linode account? |
| 22:22 | <msoren> | (two Linode Manager username/passwords) |
| 22:22 | <SirSquidness> | yes |
| 22:23 | <msoren> | how would I set that up? |
| 22:23 | <SirSquidness> | Once you've got the first account and linode, there's an option in the management panel to create a second user |
| 22:23 | <SirSquidness> | and assign them certain rights |
| 22:23 | <msoren> | great - thanks |
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| 23:14 | <tjfontaine> | wtf |
| 23:14 | <mwalling> | urmom? |
| 23:14 | <Peng> | Agreed. |
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| 23:16 | <internalkernel> | anyone else in Dallas having network problems? Slow? |
| 23:16 | <mwalling> | !mtr |
| 23:16 | <linbot> | mtr combines the functionality of traceroute and ping into one easy to use tool, and the output can be useful for determining where the source of a problem is. It can be downloaded from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows. MTR summaries can be retrieved in-channel using the command !mtr-CITY where CITY is fremont, atlanta, newark, dallas or london. |
| 23:16 | <mwalling> | !pb |
| 23:16 | <linbot> | http://p.linode.com <-- paste here, not in the channel |
| 23:17 | <internalkernel> | Ill look into MTR, not using windows though... thanks anyways |
| 23:17 | <mwalling> | ... |
| 23:18 | <mwalling> | huh? |
| 23:18 | <mwalling> | even slackware includes an MTR package |
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| 23:18 | <internalkernel> | yeah, figured as much - never used it... I'll look into it... |
| 23:18 | <internalkernel> | the links you posted suggested downloads for windows |
| 23:18 | <mwalling> | no, "or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows." |
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| 23:23 | <jbartus> | what collects the stats you see graphed in the control panel? |
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| 23:23 | <mwalling> | magic linode sauce? |
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| 23:24 | <jbartus> | haha uh oh |
| 23:25 | <jbartus> | four *.linode.com connection timeouts at aonce |
| 23:25 | <mwalling> | yes, that would be dallas going tits up |
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| 23:25 | -!- | mode/#linode [-o Perihelion] by ChanServ |
| 23:25 | <mwalling> | also the cause of the netsplit we're on the other side of |
| 23:25 | <Peng> | tjmibbit-eww: What does that mean? |
| 23:26 | <mwalling> | tjmibbit-eww: HI! |
| 23:26 | <Peng> | Yeah, mtr doesn't show any loss anymore either. |
| 23:26 | <Perihelion> | :3 |
| 23:26 | -!- | Netsplit over, joins: pi_ |
| 23:26 | <tjmibbit-eww> | peng: when you join a channel the ircd sends you all the names in a channel |
| 23:26 | <mwalling> | it was just me and jbartus for a while there |
| 23:26 | <Peng> | Same route, too. |
| 23:26 | <Peng> | Perihelion: Hi! |
| 23:26 | <Perihelion> | hi |
| 23:26 | <tjmibbit-eww> | peng: axod has decided to fill that out as users talk |
| 23:26 | <TLKit> | OK - seems normal again for me. |
| 23:27 | <Peng> | tjmibbit-eww: Weird. How does that work? |
| 23:27 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o array] by ChanServ |
| 23:27 | <mwalling> | Peng: when someone talks, it shows up on the users list |
| 23:27 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o Perihelion] by ChanServ |
| 23:27 | <jbartus> | http://library.linode.com/web-servers/nginx/php-fastcgi-centos-5 <-- this is hilariosly a debian admin not adapting to redhat |
| 23:27 | <Peng> | So...it only shows active users? |
| 23:27 | <mwalling> | Peng: so if you walk into an idle channel, you wont see anyone |
| 23:27 | <tjmibbit-eww> | Peng: no, you're wrong |
| 23:27 | <Peng> | Perihelion: Do you have magic packet loss fixing powers? :D |
| 23:27 | <tjmibbit-eww> | Peng: active != speaking |
| 23:28 | <@Perihelion> | jbartus: ? |
| 23:28 | <@Perihelion> | Peng: We're aware of the issue |
| 23:28 | <Peng> | tjmibbit-eww: I was going with its definition of "active". |
| 23:28 | <Peng> | Perihelion: Seems to have been solved, at least for me. |
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| 23:28 | <tjmibbit-eww> | Peng: it's a false definition of active and ridiculous |
| 23:28 | <tjmibbit-eww> | and nonintuitive |
| 23:28 | -!- | linbot` is now known as linbot |
| 23:29 | <jbartus> | Perihelion: the sites-enabled/sites-available dir structure symlinked into the conf.d dir |
| 23:29 | <tjmibbit-eww> | and fucking irssi isn't trying to reconnect because it's retarded and deserves my abuse as well |
| 23:29 | <@Perihelion> | jbartus: Alright I'll take a look at it later |
| 23:29 | <jbartus> | its not wrong, just a sortof... accent |
| 23:30 | <@Perihelion> | tjmibbit-eww: It always takes like 10 minutes for irssi to sort itself out for me :< |
| 23:31 | <tjmibbit-eww> | it's after these times I want to nuke irssi and ircd and walk away forever |
| 23:31 | <tjmibbit-eww> | also I can't tcpkill the ircd connection to convince irssi to give up |
| 23:32 | <mwalling> | tjmibbit-eww: /quit? |
| 23:32 | <SelfishMan> | anyone have the iphone app and a node that doesn't use the new linodeXXX format? |
| 23:32 | <tjmibbit-eww> | no I want to preserve my state |
| 23:32 | <tjmibbit-eww> | SelfishMan: yes |
| 23:33 | <SelfishMan> | does it show the graphs on that one? |
| 23:33 | <SelfishMan> | seems to only work on numbered nodes |
| 23:33 | <tjmibbit-eww> | I haven't logged in yet because the paste doesn't work :) |
| 23:33 | <SelfishMan> | ha ha ha |
| 23:33 | <tjmibbit-eww> | but I will for you |
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| 23:35 | <@jed> | SelfishMan: orly? |
| 23:35 | <SelfishMan> | jed: yep |
| 23:35 | <mwalling> | urmom says no |
| 23:36 | <SelfishMan> | I can't confirm it since I don't have an iphone |
| 23:36 | <SelfishMan> | but I'm pretty sure I just found a bug without even using the app |
| 23:36 | * | mwalling found a bug in urmom |
| 23:36 | * | jed cocks head |
| 23:36 | <@jed> | are you reverse engineering |
| 23:36 | <SelfishMan> | not exactly |
| 23:37 | * | jed folds arm |
| 23:37 | <@irgeek> | SelfishMan: I have three Linodes that don't have the linodeXXXX names and I can see their graphs. |
| 23:37 | * | jed closes the tab on "New Ticket" |
| 23:37 | <@irgeek> | One of them is Linode #9 |
| 23:37 | <SelfishMan> | really? |
| 23:37 | <@irgeek> | Really. |
| 23:37 | <SelfishMan> | hmm...must be some part of the query I don't have then |
| 23:37 | <@jed> | mwohaha |
| 23:38 | <sub> | has anyone here used tornado behind lighttpd? |
| 23:38 | <@jed> | SelfishMan: wrong string, perhaps |
| 23:38 | <@jed> | I put in that query string six or seven times |
| 23:38 | <@jed> | you're welcome |
| 23:38 | <SelfishMan> | ?!? |
| 23:38 | <@jed> | NSString *just_for_SelfishMan = "juicy_internal_api=100&..."; |
| 23:39 | <@jed> | what are you doing, running strings on the binary? |
| 23:39 | <SelfishMan> | nope |
| 23:39 | <SelfishMan> | haven't touched the binary |
| 23:39 | <SelfishMan> | just guessing at your methods |
| 23:39 | * | SelfishMan can now pull the graphs remotely |
| 23:40 | * | jed jots a note |
| 23:41 | <@jed> | I knew I should named the parameters after hitchhiker's characters |
| 23:41 | <SelfishMan> | jed: for the record, it does require the numeric ID unlike the dashboard |
| 23:41 | <@jed> | mmhmm |
| 23:41 | <@jed> | (I know, I wrote it ;) |
| 23:41 | <mwalling> | jed: none of us have the app |
| 23:42 | <mwalling> | in order to reverse engineer something, you need to have something to reverse engineer |
| 23:42 | * | SelfishMan doesn't have an iphone |
| 23:42 | * | mwalling has a centro. |
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| 23:42 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o tjfontaine] by ChanServ |
| 23:42 | * | mwalling dies a little |
| 23:42 | <@jed> | well, you can't guess a query string if the args are slartibartfast=xxx |
| 23:42 | <mwalling> | haha, tj +o |
| 23:43 | <mwalling> | jed: lies |
| 23:43 | <@jed> | outthinking you mutts is an arms race, though |
| 23:43 | -!- | mode/#linode [-o tjfontaine] by tjfontaine |
| 23:43 | <@jed> | if you really want those pint-sized graphs, not much I can do |
| 23:43 | <Peng> | Use DRM! |
| 23:44 | <Peng> | Also: Sue for copyright infringement! |
| 23:44 | <SelfishMan> | pint-sized? |
| 23:44 | <SelfishMan> | full size |
| 23:44 | <mwalling> | mutts? i'm full blooded german, 2nd generation american. |
| 23:44 | <@jed> | oh, those aren't what the app pulls |
| 23:44 | <mwalling> | dont call me a mutt. |
| 23:44 | <@jed> | so you haven't guessed mine, then |
| 23:44 | <@jed> | good |
| 23:44 | <@Perihelion> | Aww is tjfontaine staff? :3 |
| 23:44 | <SelfishMan> | I guessed what I needed, now I have the dataz |
| 23:44 | <@jed> | I know what you guessed |
| 23:44 | <@jed> | does it work for anything other than daily CPU? |
| 23:44 | <mwalling> | jed: yes |
| 23:45 | <SelfishMan> | net, cpu, io |
| 23:45 | <Peng> | Ooh, I didn't know Cassiopeia was a real word. |
| 23:45 | <@jed> | yeah, I know what you guessed |
| 23:45 | * | jed clap clap |
| 23:45 | <SelfishMan> | quit tailing the logs |
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| 23:45 | <@jed> | I haven't yet but now I'm tempted |
| 23:46 | * | mwalling stops playing. party times over |
| 23:46 | -!- | silence is now known as ajpiano |
| 23:46 | <@jed> | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -s mwalling -j DROP |
| 23:46 | <mwalling> | do it |
| 23:46 | <mwalling> | i dare you |
| 23:47 | * | SelfishMan adds custom attributes to the query |
| 23:47 | <@jed> | luckily, you didn't guess my system |
| 23:47 | <@jed> | you guessed somebody else's |
| 23:47 | <@jed> | so I am absolved \o/ |
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| 23:47 | <SelfishMan> | meh, I have no plans on sharing it |
| 23:48 | <Peng> | Wait...can we view other peoples' graphs? Hax! |
| 23:48 | <@jed> | lm4i v1.0.4 is going to change to slartibartfast=foo&trillian=bar&special_super_sekrit_arg=1 |
| 23:48 | <@jed> | PREEMPTIVE STRIKE |
| 23:48 | <mwalling> | Peng: nope |
| 23:48 | <tjfontaine> | Peng: well |
| 23:48 | <@jed> | are you passing an API key? |
| 23:48 | <@jed> | or are you abusing linode.com sessions |
| 23:48 | <mwalling> | jed: i thought you knew |
| 23:48 | <SelfishMan> | jed: nothing to stop us from sniffing it if we needed |
| 23:48 | <@jed> | SelfishMan: can't MITM the app |
| 23:48 | <tjfontaine> | haaaaaa |
| 23:48 | <SelfishMan> | that would require an iphone and I refuse o do that |
| 23:48 | <tjfontaine> | keep believing that |
| 23:49 | <SelfishMan> | jed: don't need to mitm it. sniff the sessions, crack the https session and call it good |
| 23:49 | <@jed> | tjfontaine: cocoa is pick pick picky about SSL |
| 23:49 | <mwalling> | and? what keeps you from modifying the certificate chain? |
| 23:49 | <@jed> | good luck, I guess |
| 23:49 | <@jed> | you're into jailbreak territory now |
| 23:49 | <tjfontaine> | because that's so hard to do? |
| 23:50 | <@jed> | and since you're anti-iphone, there's two big psychological hurdles for you to overcome :) |
| 23:50 | <mwalling> | but i'm not anit iphone |
| 23:50 | <SelfishMan> | who is anti-iphone? |
| 23:50 | <@jed> | well |
| 23:50 | <tjfontaine> | :P |
| 23:50 | <mwalling> | i'm just anti-at&t |
| 23:50 | <@jed> | "currently-don't-have-and-don't-want"? |
| 23:50 | <@jed> | betteR? |
| 23:50 | <SelfishMan> | who said that? |
| 23:50 | <@jed> | inferring |
| 23:50 | <@jed> | nobody said |
| 23:50 | <SelfishMan> | uh huh |
| 23:50 | * | SelfishMan can't get one in hickville |
| 23:51 | <tjfontaine> | anyway, I'm going to sleep |
| 23:51 | <SelfishMan> | not sure I want one since I have a droid |
| 23:52 | <@caker> | http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/ <-- HTML5 is awesome |
| 23:52 | <tjfontaine> | opello: ^^ |
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| 23:52 | <Peng> | tjfontaine: Good night. :) |
| 23:52 | <@jed> | do you doctype HTML 5 with XHTML 1.0? |
| 23:53 | <@jed> | that looks like XHTML with javascript |
| 23:53 | * | jed has never touched HTML 5 |
| 23:53 | * | mwalling has never touched urmom |
| 23:53 | <tjfontaine> | Peng: night |
| 23:53 | <@jed> | that's a truckload of javascript, wow |
| 23:54 | * | X-LP highfives mwalling |
| 23:54 | <@jed> | caker: let's redo linode.com like this |
| 23:54 | <@jed> | 10 kloc javascript and one html page |
| 23:55 | <mwalling> | and make it work in tabs |
| 23:55 | <X-LP> | with webchat on the side |
| 23:56 | <Eman> | i wish IE had some silly limit of how much javascript the engine would parse - if only to force people to keep their crap under control |
| 23:56 | <@jed> | linodebook -- "friend other linode customers and write on their wall!" |
| 23:56 | <Eman> | "but it has to work in ie!" |
| 23:56 | <danieldg> | Eman: no, then you'd just get horrible hacks that get around the limitation |
| 23:57 | <jdub> | and 15 GETs per page instead of 1 |
| 23:57 | <SelfishMan> | Eman: it will work in IE just like Google Wave does |
| 23:57 | <Eman> | if only javascript didnt exist |
| 23:57 | <SelfishMan> | by using the addon for IE that runs chrome inside it |
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