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| 00:06 | <sorressean> | I have won my battle with mysql. yay! |
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| 00:28 | <Chris93> | So, I'm wanting to install PHPMyAdmin but I didn't want to install it in an area which can be accessed by the public. Is there a place I can install phpMyAdmin but still access it through the browser, say by my IP/phpmyadmin instead of mydomain.com/phpmyadmin? |
| 00:28 | <opello> | setup a directory with some apache access rules that only allow your ip to get to it? |
| 00:28 | <bob2> | install using apt |
| 00:28 | <bob2> | change the config to only allow access from localhost |
| 00:29 | <bob2> | use ssh forwarding |
| 00:29 | <bob2> | drink beer |
| 00:29 | <opello> | (or localhost, and use ssh dynamic forwarding to setup a socks proxy) |
| 00:29 | <opello> | heh |
| 00:29 | <Chris93> | Is there an article on this? |
| 00:29 | <Chris93> | apt-get install phpmyadmin ? |
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| 00:32 | <amitz> | I never tried phpmyadmin before, but I have this feeling that your time spent on learning on how to install phymyadmin is better spent on how to configure php :-p |
| 00:33 | <Bdragon> | Or using the command line client |
| 00:33 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:33 | <Chris93> | Sounds confronting. lol. |
| 00:33 | <Chris93> | brb |
| 00:33 | * | Bdragon is MUCH more comfortable at mysql> than in phpmyadmin |
| 00:34 | <amitz> | Bdragon: I'm much comfortable with urmom |
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| 00:35 | <bob2> | sudo nano /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf, add "Allow from localhost", "Deny from all", in the Directory block - two lines, no quotes |
| 00:35 | <Chris93> | I know all the commands for MySQL etc, I just wanted something visual |
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| 00:36 | <Chris93> | Okay, wait so first I need to install using apt, is that apt-get install phpmyadmin? |
| 00:36 | <bob2> | aptitude, yes |
| 00:36 | <Bdragon> | Had a blast watching http://www.archive.org/details/YourName1960 earlier. |
| 00:36 | <Chris93> | Alright, that seemed to work |
| 00:37 | <amitz> | bob2: look at the bright side, in exchange Chris93 will be well versed in the art of apt instead. ;-) |
| 00:37 | <Chris93> | Do I chose apache2 or apache-ssl? or something else? |
| 00:39 | <bob2> | don't you already have a web server |
| 00:39 | <Chris93> | I just chose to install it for apache2 |
| 00:40 | <Chris93> | bob2, I updated the apache.conf |
| 00:40 | <Chris93> | so now I need to forward it or something? |
| 00:41 | <bob2> | ? |
| 00:41 | <bob2> | just restart apache |
| 00:41 | <Chris93> | You said I needed to use ssh forwarding? |
| 00:41 | <Chris93> | okay |
| 00:41 | <bob2> | since it's ana apache config file |
| 00:41 | <bob2> | now only localhost can use phpmyadmin |
| 00:42 | <Chris93> | Okay, it's restarted |
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| 00:42 | <Chris93> | So how do I get to phpMyAdmin now? |
| 00:44 | <Chris93> | Hello? |
| 00:46 | <Chris93> | bob2, are you there? |
| 00:46 | <bob2> | ssh forwarding |
| 00:46 | <bob2> | http://vectrosecurity.com/content/view/67/26 |
| 00:47 | <Chris93> | thanks: |
| 00:47 | <bob2> | then configure your browser to use localhost:9853 as a SOCKS proxy |
| 00:47 | <bob2> | in firefox this is in settings -> advanced -> network -> proxy or so |
| 00:48 | <bob2> | if you have a static ip at home, you might like to just allow that instead |
| 00:48 | <bob2> | then you don't need to use putty |
| 00:49 | <Chris93> | I have a dynamic IP |
| 00:53 | <Chris93> | Okay, trying to follow those steps |
| 00:53 | <Chris93> | brb |
| 00:58 | <Chris93> | bob2, so I've gone into options > advanced > network > proxy, which radio button do I choose? |
| 01:01 | <amitz> | Chris93: what are they? So some others not really remember can help. |
| 01:01 | <Chris93> | No Proxy, Auto-detect proxy settings for this network, Manual proxy configuration, Automatic proxy configuration URL |
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| 01:03 | <amitz> | Perhaps you want manyal. |
| 01:04 | <Chris93> | Not really sure what to enter in there - I THOUGHT that would disable my Internet access if I did such a thing |
| 01:05 | <amitz> | but you need to change it if you ever need to change. |
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| 01:06 | <Chris93> | Nevermind, found a link on the page that bob2 sent that explains what to do |
| 01:06 | <amitz> | no harm to try anyway but no. |
| 01:06 | <Chris93> | thanks anyway amitz :) |
| 01:06 | <amitz> | np |
| 01:06 | <Chris93> | Thanks bob2 as well :) |
| 01:07 | <Chris93> | I'll catchya later, gotta go. |
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| 01:14 | <Chris93> | Hi, I can't get the SSH SOCKS connection to work |
| 01:15 | <Chris93> | Lavr: |
| 01:15 | <Chris93> | oops |
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| 01:16 | <Chris93> | Can anybody help? |
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| 01:21 | <bob2> | that's not a useful description of the problem man |
| 01:21 | <bob2> | explain EXACTLY what you did |
| 01:21 | <bob2> | specifically what your firefox proxy settings look like |
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| 01:23 | <Chris93> | Ahh nevermind... |
| 01:23 | <Chris93> | This isn't even that way that I explained I wanted to go about it... I don't exactly know why I was linked to that page earlier... oh well |
| 01:23 | <Chris93> | I'm going to find another way to do it |
| 01:25 | <bob2> | I didn't see you explain it anywhere |
| 01:26 | <bob2> | however, that page explains how to allow only you, via ssh to login to phpmyadmin |
| 01:26 | <bob2> | 16:48:20 < bob2> if you have a static ip at home, you might like to just allow that instead |
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| 01:37 | <Chris93> | Sorry, I was AFK |
| 01:38 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:38 | <Chris93> | I have a dynamic IP... sorry, I've got a really bad headache at the moment.. lol. |
| 01:39 | <Chris93> | Argh.. so I'm reading this: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=22964#22964 |
| 01:39 | <Chris93> | I've done all of what was stated to do... but I don't know the URL I need to type in to access PMA |
| 01:39 | <bob2> | that's the same thing I told you to do |
| 01:40 | <bob2> | you need to a) have putty proxy requests to your linode and b) tell your browser to use that proxy |
| 01:40 | <bob2> | then you access http://yourlinode.yourdomain.com/phpmyadmin/ |
| 01:41 | <Chris93> | When I tell my browser to use that proxy, I can't access the Internet |
| 01:41 | <Chris93> | Let me try again |
| 01:41 | <bob2> | then your browser was misconfigured, or putty was misconfigured or you have a bizarro firewall on your lindoe |
| 01:42 | <Chris93> | test |
| 01:42 | <Chris93> | can you see me? |
| 01:42 | <Thor_R|Away> | yes |
| 01:42 | <Chris93> | Yeah, I tried the proxy thing again in FireFox just as the guide you linked me to states, it screws up |
| 01:42 | <Chris93> | I get this error |
| 01:43 | <Chris93> | Unable to connect Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 72.xxx...... |
| 01:43 | <bob2> | as above man |
| 01:43 | <Chris93> | ? |
| 01:43 | <bob2> | then your browser was misconfigured, or putty was misconfigured or you have a bizarro firewall on your lindoe |
| 01:43 | <bob2> | perhaps put up screenshots of your browser and putty |
| 01:44 | <SelfishMan> | BIZARRO!!!!! |
| 01:45 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:45 | <Thor_R|Away> | Lol |
| 01:45 | <Chris93> | Wait, one thing before I continue |
| 01:45 | <Chris93> | I use mod_rewrite to rewrite my URL's... will this prevent what I'm attempting to do? |
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| 01:45 | -!- | Clooth|away is now known as Clooth |
| 01:47 | <Chris93> | ... |
| 01:47 | <Clorith> | Clooth, go shoot some "röligt" into your brain |
| 01:47 | <Clorith> | ^-^ |
| 01:48 | <Clooth> | o |
| 01:48 | <Clooth> | ur so cute |
| 01:48 | <Clooth> | <3 |
| 01:48 | <Chris93> | o.O |
| 01:48 | <Chris93> | oh, I thought you were talking to yourself |
| 01:48 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:48 | <Chris93> | lol, looked like the same username |
| 01:48 | <Clooth> | we get that alot when we go out together |
| 01:49 | <mikegrb> | roflz |
| 01:49 | <Chris93> | rofl |
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| 01:49 | <Chris93> | bob2, is there any other way to go about phpMyAdmin? |
| 01:50 | <SelfishMan> | don't use phpmyadmin?!? |
| 01:51 | <Chris93> | SelfishMan, ??? |
| 01:51 | * | SelfishMan fails to see what was unclear about that |
| 01:51 | <Chris93> | Was that a question o.. |
| 01:52 | <SelfishMan> | The effort you put in to secure phpmyadmin (as if that was possible) could have been applied to learning the mysql shell and still had time to spare |
| 01:52 | <Chris93> | I see |
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| 01:53 | <Chris93> | So through shell, am I able to import exported data from phpMyAdmin? |
| 01:53 | <Chris93> | do I need to upload that to the server and import it locally? |
| 01:54 | <Chris93> | How can I uninstall phpMyAdmin through shell? x_x |
| 01:54 | <Thor_R|Away> | very carefully |
| 01:54 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:54 | <Chris93> | lol, sounds confronting yet again |
| 01:55 | <Chris93> | uhm.. so "very carefully phpmyadmin" ? |
| 01:55 | <Chris93> | :p |
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| 01:55 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 01:55 | <Thor_R|Away> | lol |
| 01:56 | <Thor_R|Away> | man apt-get |
| 01:56 | <Thor_R|Away> | man yum |
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| 01:56 | <Chris93> | That sounds dirty |
| 01:56 | <Thor_R|Away> | indeed |
| 01:56 | <Thor_R|Away> | manual pages are your friend |
| 01:56 | <Chris93> | :P |
| 01:57 | <Chris93> | so, apt-get purge phpmyadmin? |
| 01:57 | <Chris93> | I got two faileds |
| 01:58 | <Chris93> | ah, nevermind |
| 01:59 | <Chris93> | Okay, so using MySQL in shell... how can I import my database from my old host that used phpMyAdmin? |
| 02:00 | <Thor_R|Away> | did you export it as a .sql file? |
| 02:00 | <Chris93> | I'll do that now - I guess that I pop the .sql file onto the server? |
| 02:01 | <Thor_R|Away> | Yes export it as an sql file, then you can use mysql command line to import it |
| 02:01 | <Chris93> | Okay, cool :). |
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| 02:02 | <Chris93> | So, I'm saving the .sql file, does it matter which encoding I chose? |
| 02:02 | <Chris93> | choose* |
| 02:04 | <Chris93> | I saved it as a UTF-8 |
| 02:05 | <Thor_R|Away> | I do not have this option in the version of PHpmyadmin that i have. |
| 02:06 | <Chris93> | NP |
| 02:07 | <amitz> | !dig psn.com |
| 02:07 | <linbot> | amitz: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: psn.com. 7200 IN A 74.54.82.185 | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION |
| 02:07 | <Thor_R|Away> | once you have uploaded the file to yoru server: mysql -u username -p databasename < exportfile.sql |
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| 02:09 | <Chris93> | Awesome |
| 02:09 | <Chris93> | thanks |
| 02:09 | <Thor_R|Away> | Np |
| 02:09 | <Chris93> | would it be /srv/domain.com/export.sql ? |
| 02:10 | <Thor_R|Away> | well what are you trying to do? take your database from one server and put it on another one? |
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| 02:10 | <Chris93> | Well, I've got the exported .sql file now saved in public_html on my domian on my linode |
| 02:10 | <Chris93> | I just want to import all that data |
| 02:11 | <Thor_R> | yes you can specifi the full path in that command |
| 02:11 | <Thor_R> | specify* |
| 02:11 | <Chris93> | okay |
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| 02:12 | <Chris93> | I guess it worked? |
| 02:12 | <Chris93> | I have no idea |
| 02:12 | <Chris93> | I think it did actually |
| 02:12 | <Chris93> | think it just echo'd the file |
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| 02:14 | <Chris93> | How can I find out if it worked? |
| 02:15 | <Thor_R> | mysql -u username -p |
| 02:15 | <Thor_R> | enter password |
| 02:15 | <Chris93> | done |
| 02:15 | <Thor_R> | then type: use databasename; |
| 02:15 | <Thor_R> | next: show tables; |
| 02:15 | <Chris93> | Database changed. |
| 02:15 | <Chris93> | okay |
| 02:15 | <Thor_R> | and you should get all t he tables that are there |
| 02:16 | <Chris93> | Empty set |
| 02:16 | <Chris93> | x_x |
| 02:16 | <Chris93> | I think I imported it to the wrong user |
| 02:16 | <Chris93> | I imported it to root |
| 02:16 | <Chris93> | fail |
| 02:16 | <Chris93> | How can I delete the imported database from root? |
| 02:16 | <Thor_R> | well did you login as root just before? |
| 02:17 | <Chris93> | Before when I imported it I did, I don't know why - that was stupid. |
| 02:17 | <Thor_R> | when you did "mysql -u username -p" did you use root? |
| 02:17 | <Chris93> | no, I used my proper username |
| 02:17 | <Chris93> | but before that I used root |
| 02:18 | <Chris93> | Apparently root doesn't have the database |
| 02:18 | <Chris93> | no, wait, it does |
| 02:18 | <Chris93> | How do I delete a database? |
| 02:19 | <Thor_R> | drop database db_name; |
| 02:20 | <Chris93> | I was close |
| 02:20 | <Chris93> | thanks |
| 02:20 | <Chris93> | alright |
| 02:20 | <Chris93> | so now I need to import that .sql properly |
| 02:21 | <Thor_R> | you must create the database first btw |
| 02:21 | <Thor_R> | sorry if i did not mention that |
| 02:22 | <Chris93> | Haha, that might help :p |
| 02:22 | <Chris93> | thanks |
| 02:22 | <Thor_R> | and you should also set up a user account other than root |
| 02:22 | <Chris93> | Did that :) |
| 02:22 | <Thor_R> | with priviledges |
| 02:22 | <Thor_R> | to that database |
| 02:23 | <Chris93> | Okay |
| 02:23 | <Chris93> | so I logged in |
| 02:23 | <Chris93> | created the database |
| 02:23 | <Chris93> | now how do I import that data? |
| 02:24 | <Chris93> | import exported.sql; ? |
| 02:24 | <Thor_R> | mysql -u username -p databasename < exportfile.sql |
| 02:24 | <Thor_R> | same as i said b4 |
| 02:24 | <Chris93> | whilst I'm logged in? |
| 02:24 | <SelfishMan> | mo |
| 02:24 | <Thor_R> | no |
| 02:24 | <Chris93> | ok |
| 02:24 | <SelfishMan> | grant urmom on urmom.* to 'urmom'@'localhost' identified by 'urmom'; |
| 02:25 | <Thor_R> | ^ |
| 02:25 | <Thor_R> | :P |
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| 02:25 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 02:25 | <Chris93> | lol |
| 02:25 | <SelfishMan> | !urmom |
| 02:25 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: Yo momma's so fake, Mythbusters did an episode on her! (742:6/0) [mmuro] |
| 02:25 | <Thor_R> | haha |
| 02:25 | <SelfishMan> | They Mythbusters are fake |
| 02:25 | <SelfishMan> | sellout bastards |
| 02:25 | <Chris93> | Ugh, it's giving errors |
| 02:26 | <Thor_R> | what kind? |
| 02:26 | <Chris93> | WHY does it have to be so tidious? |
| 02:26 | <Chris93> | ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ' SET SQL_MODE="NO_AUTO_VALUE_ON_ZERO"' at line 1 |
| 02:26 | <Chris93> | might be the encoding? |
| 02:26 | <Thor_R> | If you have shelll access to the old server you should use mysqldump to get the export file |
| 02:26 | <Thor_R> | instead of phpmyadmin |
| 02:26 | <Chris93> | I'll see |
| 02:27 | <Chris93> | Okay, yep, I do. |
| 02:27 | <Chris93> | Let me login |
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| 02:28 | <Chris93> | Okay |
| 02:28 | <Chris93> | logged in |
| 02:28 | <Thor_R> | mysqldump -u username -p databasename > filename.sql |
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| 02:29 | <SelfishMan> | ha. phpmyadmin utf-8 errors. classic. |
| 02:29 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 02:29 | <Thor_R> | lol |
| 02:29 | <Chris93> | I'm getting the hang of this now :D.. and it makes me look extra smart using shell :p |
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| 02:29 | <Thor_R> | everyone has to learn theese things at some point |
| 02:30 | <Chris93> | I get an access denied. |
| 02:30 | <Chris93> | I'm on a shared host, don't know if that means anything |
| 02:30 | <Thor_R> | well |
| 02:30 | <Thor_R> | shared hosts usually have the form of username_databasename... etv |
| 02:30 | <Thor_R> | etc* |
| 02:31 | <Thor_R> | so make sure you enter the proper info... |
| 02:31 | <Chris93> | Yeah |
| 02:31 | <Chris93> | one sec |
| 02:32 | <Chris93> | Okay |
| 02:32 | <Chris93> | think it worked that time |
| 02:32 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 02:32 | <Chris93> | I have no idea WHERE the file saved though LOL! |
| 02:32 | * | Chris93 searches |
| 02:32 | <Thor_R> | in your working dir |
| 02:32 | <Thor_R> | pwd |
| 02:33 | <Chris93> | got it |
| 02:34 | <Chris93> | BRILLIANT! |
| 02:34 | <Chris93> | worked |
| 02:34 | <Thor_R> | :) |
| 02:34 | <Chris93> | awesome :D |
| 02:35 | <Chris93> | I give you all 100 internets |
| 02:35 | <Thor_R> | there is also another utility you might want to google a little, 'mysqladmin' it has it's uses |
| 02:36 | * | Chris93 googles |
| 02:37 | <Chris93> | Is it like a baby verison of phpmyadmin? |
| 02:37 | <SelfishMan> | !ipinfo h.ns.spameatingmonkey.net |
| 02:37 | <linbot> | SelfishMan: IP: 208.53.139.215; rDNS: powered.by.hostlatch.net; ASN adv net: 208.53.128.0/18; ASN: AS30058; ASN owner: FDCservers.net; ASN reg: 2003-07-10; City: Woodstock; State: Illinois; Postal code: 60098; Country: US; Latitude: 42.3222; Longitude: -88.4671; UTC offset: -6; Area code: 815; Domains: 1; http://revip.info/lookup/208.53.139.215 |
| 02:37 | <SelfishMan> | hmm... |
| 02:37 | <Thor_R> | no |
| 02:38 | <Chris93> | Just had a look at it, I gotta go in a moment because dinner is here |
| 02:38 | <Thor_R> | mmmmmmm |
| 02:38 | <Thor_R> | dinner |
| 02:38 | <Chris93> | Pizza too :p |
| 02:38 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 02:38 | <Chris93> | Earlier when I was trying to setup phpmyadmin, I did something in shell.. not EXACTLY sure what I did (lol). I believe I opened a port or something |
| 02:39 | <Thor_R> | look at your command history |
| 02:39 | <Chris93> | I did ssh -L 8080:localhost:80 |
| 02:39 | <Chris93> | do I need to worry about that? |
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| 02:40 | <Thor_R> | umm not sure what that does, and i am too lazy to look |
| 02:40 | <Thor_R> | well |
| 02:40 | <Chris93> | Ahaha |
| 02:40 | <Thor_R> | bind address |
| 02:40 | <Chris93> | I gotta go, dinner is getting cold. I'll be back later. Thanks again for your help :-) |
| 02:41 | <Thor_R> | Np |
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| 02:56 | <c2> | oh snap. linode used bt chinese hackers!! http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/01/researchers-identify-command-servers-behind-google-attack.ars |
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| 03:13 | <nb> | is bandwidth pooled among linodes? |
| 03:15 | <amitz> | oh yay... :-p |
| 03:17 | <amitz> | caker was sent brochure on the beach of guantanamo :-p |
| 03:17 | <amitz> | s/on/about/ |
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| 03:20 | <Clorith> | Perihelion, ugly green website man is being a bitch again =( |
| 03:20 | <Clorith> | save me? |
| 03:25 | <amitz> | anyhow, that should increase the notability of linode entry in wikipedia :-D |
| 03:25 | <amitz> | ^^ always look at the bright side. |
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| 03:26 | <Clorith> | huh ? |
| 03:26 | <Clorith> | What'd I miss, haha |
| 03:26 | <bob2> | nb: yes |
| 03:27 | <Clorith> | Why hasn't anyone put up the cool benchmark comparison on the linode wikipedia entry ? |
| 03:27 | <Clorith> | (I'd do so, but can't rememebr the link my self |
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| 03:41 | <Clorith> | What's the best way of finding the biggest folder on your system ? |
| 03:42 | <purrdeta> | I like ncdu |
| 03:42 | <Clorith> | I just have to figure out why this one user uses 40GB of space, when everyone else uses like 40MB >_< and the entire folder layout is a clusterfuck i nthere |
| 03:42 | <purrdeta> | hmm |
| 03:42 | <purrdeta> | yeah I love ncdu :P |
| 03:42 | <purrdeta> | but its up to you |
| 03:43 | <Clorith> | I'll give it a shot |
| 03:43 | <Clorith> | if it's jsut /logs/ as I suspect, I will scream, hehe |
| 03:43 | <purrdeta> | It makes it easier to figure it out for me |
| 03:43 | <purrdeta> | but maybe Im just a lazy sysadmin |
| 03:43 | <Clorith> | I like lazzy |
| 03:43 | <purrdeta> | :D |
| 03:43 | -!- | array is now known as Guest2210 |
| 03:44 | <Clorith> | oooh, I like this |
| 03:44 | <Clorith> | it even ahs pretty "Calculating..." rolling |
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| 03:46 | -!- | Guest2210 is now known as array |
| 03:46 | <purrdeta> | hehe yeah :P |
| 03:47 | <Clorith> | So I just sent a "fuck off and stfu" email to a client taht won't stop complaining, and CC'ed my boss |
| 03:47 | <purrdeta> | interesting :D |
| 03:47 | <Clorith> | He laughed, aparently he approved of my way of saying shut up in a nice way |
| 03:47 | <purrdeta> | thats actually awesome |
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| 03:47 | <Clorith> | well, you can't expect me to uphold a deadline if you send me an email a week before the deadline saying you changed yoru mind and everything is wrong making me do it fro mscratch, after 3 months of work |
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| 03:48 | <purrdeta> | yeah |
| 03:48 | <Clorith> | I hate clients |
| 03:48 | <Clorith> | I want them to die in a fire |
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| 03:48 | <purrdeta> | haha |
| 03:48 | <purrdeta> | butthey are the reason you have a job too correct? :P |
| 03:48 | <purrdeta> | Bittersweet eh? |
| 03:48 | <Clorith> | yeah, the irony of life |
| 03:50 | <purrdeta> | silly life :/ |
| 03:52 | <Clorith> | Agreed. |
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| 04:08 | <X-LP> | heh |
| 04:08 | <X-LP> | i have 3 backups running now \o/ |
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| 04:21 | <purrdeta> | woot |
| 04:22 | <purrdeta> | I really should backup stuff |
| 04:22 | <purrdeta> | I should automate my desktop to do it somehow |
| 04:23 | <X-LP> | its linodes backup. mikegrb is supposed to be fixing it but i have 2 still running from 3-4 days ago |
| 04:23 | <X-LP> | :P |
| 04:23 | <X-LP> | and another started yesterday |
| 04:24 | <purrdeta> | ah nice |
| 04:24 | <purrdeta> | I use linodes backup |
| 04:25 | <Clorith> | I don't |
| 04:25 | <Clorith> | I should, but I don't, hehe |
| 04:25 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 04:25 | <purrdeta> | lol |
| 04:25 | <purrdeta> | I used to use s3 |
| 04:25 | <X-LP> | last successful backup was on the 7th |
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| 04:35 | <Clorith> | http://twitpic.com/y5b99 (nsfw btw :P) but hilarious never the less |
| 04:37 | <purrdeta> | hah woah :P |
| 04:38 | <amitz> | Clorith: I love client's money |
| 04:38 | <amitz> | oh sorry, that was quite a long time ago :-p |
| 04:38 | <amitz> | I mean, the relevancy. |
| 04:38 | <purrdeta> | hmm I am tired but cant sleep |
| 04:38 | <purrdeta> | it suckssss |
| 04:39 | <amitz> | Clorith: oh, you missed the http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/01/researchers-identify-command-servers-behind-google-attack.ars |
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| 04:41 | <Clorith> | oooh |
| 04:42 | <davincitek> | hey folks, is it possible to get a private lan between Linode datacenters? Or is OpenVPN the best option? |
| 04:42 | <purrdeta> | OpenVPN |
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| 04:42 | <purrdeta> | at least from my understanding |
| 04:43 | <X-LP> | lan only works within the same datacenter |
| 04:43 | * | purrdeta nods |
| 04:43 | <davincitek> | thanks! |
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| 04:49 | <Clorith> | blergh, migrating sucks |
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| 05:28 | <Clorith> | Well, this sucks |
| 05:28 | <Clorith> | my laptop just died |
| 05:28 | <Clorith> | seems the MB said good night |
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| 05:35 | <LittleAmitz> | perhaps excitement generator is necessary. |
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| 05:36 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:36 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
| 05:36 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:37 | <LittleAmitz> | In dream only :-( |
| 05:39 | <LittleAmitz> | ops, gtg |
| 05:40 | <Clorith> | bye |
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| 05:45 | <beef> | anyone and idea how to solve this issue "xen_linode_boot: warning - li-network might not have ran" |
| 05:45 | <beef> | ? |
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| 05:55 | <beef> | this is getting on my tits |
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| 06:02 | <Clorith> | hawt, can I have some ? |
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| 06:59 | <Clorith> | Any way I can tar down a directory, but tell it to ignore a certain subdirectory? |
| 07:00 | <Clorith> | like I want to tar /home, but I want it to ignore /home/clorith |
| 07:00 | <bitmand> | --exclude |
| 07:00 | <beefsalad> | awww, I was going to say RTFM |
| 07:00 | <bitmand> | beefsalad: truly my bad :) |
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| 07:02 | <Clorith> | haha |
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| 07:02 | <Clorith> | nothing wrong in asking politely, not like I asked yo uto setup the syntax for me ;) |
| 07:03 | <bitmand> | ;) |
| 07:04 | <beefsalad> | Clorith: I was being a jerk, and would have answered :P |
| 07:04 | <Clorith> | I know :P |
| 07:05 | <Clorith> | You're just jealous he got to me first! hehe |
| 07:05 | <beefsalad> | heh |
| 07:07 | <Clorith> | why oh why did I hit the -v ! |
| 07:07 | <Clorith> | oh well, at least now I know it won't time out due to no activity, hehe |
| 07:08 | <beefsalad> | heh |
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| 07:40 | <spkitty> | ...anybody else having problems connecting to linode.com ? |
| 07:41 | <mig5> | 500 internal server error |
| 07:41 | <mig5> | back now |
| 07:41 | <spkitty> | ah yeah |
| 07:42 | <chesty> | linbot is dead |
| 07:42 | <spkitty> | rip |
| 07:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 07:42 | <chesty> | don't trust her, she might be a double agent now |
| 07:43 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 07:43 | <chesty> | !fail |
| 07:43 | <linbot> | http://www.pacdudegames.com/fail/ <-- push it. now. |
| 07:43 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 07:43 | <JediMaster> | Clorith, use screen with the nice screen profiles that keep the ssh session open with the clock ticking over |
| 07:44 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 07:44 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
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| 07:46 | <chesty> | summer speaks chinese |
| 07:46 | <chesty> | coincidence? |
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| 07:47 | <HoopyCat> | !d |
| 07:47 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: Now 36% full (some time remaining). Last emptied Wednesday, December 30, last full Wednesday, December 30 after running for unknown. |
| 07:48 | <HoopyCat> | ah, i knew flooding the basement would have some impact on the dehumidifier |
| 07:48 | <Clorith> | hahaha |
| 07:48 | <Clorith> | no way! :P |
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| 07:53 | <beefsalad> | 8but where else are you going to put the pool? |
| 07:53 | <Clorith> | on the roof, duh! |
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| 08:01 | <Clorith> | JediMaster, it's ok, I have a persistent connectoin on this machine =) |
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| 09:07 | <atula> | hello. if I have 1 linode hosting a few webapps (small ones anyways) with different domain names. I would like the server to be able to send out email from these webapps to my users. I closed port 25 already. I believe I could "masquerade" 1 domain, but what about multiple domains (since I have more than 1 webapp on the linode). |
| 09:08 | <HoopyCat> | usually, you'll set the outgoing e-mail address from the application sending the mail; using the MTA's masquerade function won't let that work |
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| 09:08 | <atula> | I see. |
| 09:08 | <atula> | so all I need to do is get sendmail to start working. with no real config |
| 09:09 | <atula> | since I am only using it to send email |
| 09:09 | <HoopyCat> | i'm rusty on my sendmail, but roughly yes |
| 09:09 | <atula> | BoobyCat |
| 09:09 | <atula> | HoopyCat: cool |
| 09:09 | <HoopyCat> | ! |
| 09:09 | <atula> | HoopyCat: btw why are you always online ? are you a bot? |
| 09:10 | <atula> | Anna Botem ? |
| 09:10 | <thegodlikehobo> | so is a server failing to boot after a reboot initiated via the command line expected behavior? |
| 09:10 | <atula> | oooh good question. it happened to me last night. |
| 09:10 | <HoopyCat> | atula: i'm not always online, but i'm on vacation right now and in the middle of triaging e-mail and waiting for the clothes dryer and mailman |
| 09:11 | <atula> | you do vacation at home ? |
| 09:11 | <atula> | where are you based in? |
| 09:11 | <HoopyCat> | thegodlikehobo: is lassie enabled? there's no difference between a reboot and a halt; both should trigger lassie to insert a boot job |
| 09:11 | <atula> | <-- Boston, MA here... so it's freakin' cold |
| 09:11 | <HoopyCat> | atula: it's less "vacation" and more "inter-semester break", but rochester, new york; it's not terribly cold here any more |
| 09:12 | <atula> | aah new york |
| 09:12 | <thegodlikehobo> | HoopyCat: no, lassie is not enabled. and last i checked, reboot is quite different from shutdown -h, unless linode does things differently :( |
| 09:12 | <mwalling> | linode does things differently |
| 09:12 | <HoopyCat> | thegodlikehobo: the kernel exiting is the kernel exiting |
| 09:13 | <mwalling> | you could always alias reboot='ssh linode###@city##.linode.com reboot' |
| 09:14 | <HoopyCat> | "Halite RS25 25-Pound Bag Of Premium Ice Melting Rock Salt"... premium? |
| 09:14 | <thegodlikehobo> | HoopyCat: well, i expected the server to *re*boot after issuing reboot. :p and thanks mwalling, i wasnt of the slight linode quirk. |
| 09:15 | <thegodlikehobo> | wasnt aware, rather. |
| 09:15 | <mwalling> | thegodlikehobo: how would the hosts know? like HoopyCat said, kernel exits are kernel exits |
| 09:15 | <HoopyCat> | so, $30 for a 25-pound bag of premium rock salt, or $1.49 for a 10-pound bag of rock salt at the supermarket |
| 09:16 | <thegodlikehobo> | well linode is the first of three xen-based vps services i've used when server doesnt come back up after a reboot is all. |
| 09:16 | <HoopyCat> | there's a sucker born every minute |
| 09:16 | <HoopyCat> | thegodlikehobo: that's because you've disabled lassie |
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| 09:18 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:18 | <thegodlikehobo> | HoopyCat: reboot should reboot. if lassie is a requirement for reboot to work properly on linode, then ill enable it. |
| 09:18 | <mwalling> | [01-15][01-15] 09:13:26 < mwalling> you could always alias reboot='ssh linode###@city##.linode.com reboot' |
| 09:19 | <thegodlikehobo> | mwalling: i know mwalling, i did make an alias, thanks again |
| 09:19 | <mwalling> | all lassie is is a check if your kernel exited without a host job to stop your kernel |
| 09:19 | <mwalling> | so when you stop your machine without telling the host, lassie will start it |
| 09:20 | <mwalling> | (where stopping can be intentional, like poweroff or reboot, or accidental like reboot_on_panic) |
| 09:21 | <HoopyCat> | lassie is, however, usually NOT fast enough to catch a HCF instruction before the fire spreads to the paper tape |
| 09:22 | <HoopyCat> | i'm pretty sure only the dom0 can execute a HCF anyway |
| 09:23 | <HoopyCat> | !f hcf instruction |
| 09:23 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: The Linode authoritive nameservers update every 15 minutes on the step tick of the hour. This means that if you change your zone it will only be updated at :00, :15, :30 and :45 of hour hour. (47.809%) |
| 09:24 | <HoopyCat> | hahaha, i knew it'd do that... |
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| 09:32 | <JshWright> | "While we knew it was coming, this afternoon Canonical and the Ubuntu development community have announced the release of Lucid Lynx Alpha 2, or more easily known as Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Alpha 2." What an awkward sentence... |
| 09:32 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:32 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:32 | <JshWright> | and how is "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Alpha 2" easier than "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Alpha 2" |
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| 09:40 | <atula> | is it bad to have the user name the same as the domain name ? |
| 09:40 | <atula> | well... I mean.. that's really obscure |
| 09:40 | <atula> | one could have many domain names pointing to the server anyway. and as long as the password is secure, we're good. but somehow now I feel taken aback. |
| 09:41 | <atula> | should I be a bit worried / |
| 09:41 | <atula> | ? |
| 09:41 | <atula> | userdel -r domain would really be easier. but I would like to settle the thoughts once and for all. |
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| 09:43 | <randallman> | heh HCF |
| 09:44 | <randallman> | 'My virtual CPU is on .... FEEEEYYYRRRREEEEE! |
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| 10:03 | <HoopyCat> | atula: it does make the username somewhat more guessable for a focused attack, but that's considerably rare |
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| 10:31 | <Peng> | !f lklsdkfhgljkshdrllkjfh |
| 10:31 | <linbot> | Peng: The Linode authoritive nameservers update every 15 minutes on the step tick of the hour. This means that if you change your zone it will only be updated at :00, :15, :30 and :45 of hour hour. (67.612%) |
| 10:31 | <Peng> | Uh-huh.... |
| 10:31 | <Peng> | !f 100 Mbps |
| 10:31 | <linbot> | Peng: The Linode authoritive nameservers update every 15 minutes on the step tick of the hour. This means that if you change your zone it will only be updated at :00, :15, :30 and :45 of hour hour. (67.612%) |
| 10:31 | <Peng> | :) |
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| 10:31 | <Peng> | SelfishMan: Skynet is returning the DNS zone regneration message instead of falling back to Wolfram Alpha for strange queries... |
| 10:35 | <jetlag> | what was that tool that lets you check out network traffic at the console? |
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| 10:37 | <linbot> | New news from forums: pipe to gzip - avoiding corruption in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5058>; |
| 10:38 | <beefsalad> | jetlag: iftop? netstat? ntop? uhhh...theres tens of them if not hundreds |
| 10:38 | <jetlag> | I guess I was thinking iftop. |
| 10:38 | <jetlag> | thanks |
| 10:39 | <randallman> | heh I wrote a silly shell script to count based on the output of ifconfig (and the last output, minus the time elapsed) |
| 10:39 | <randallman> | *shrug* |
| 10:40 | <randallman> | I remember writing a gdesklet that used snmp for the same... |
| 10:40 | <randallman> | back YEARS ago... |
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| 10:53 | <atula> | HoopyCat: seriously though, everyone can guess that there's a root account on a linux server. Sooo the user name might not be an issue. Unless i lock the root account... is that recommended ? |
| 10:54 | <HoopyCat> | atula: "PermitRootLogin no" in sshd_config should suffice |
| 10:54 | <HoopyCat> | and, of course, dang good root and lish passwords |
| 10:54 | <atula> | yeah |
| 10:55 | <atula> | if I didn't have a password on lish, it would be blank ? |
| 10:55 | <@caker> | atula: no |
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| 11:07 | * | WoodWork walks in. |
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| 11:08 | <WoodWork> | Good week everyone? |
| 11:09 | <amitz> | pretty good :-) |
| 11:10 | <@Perihelion> | Perhaps |
| 11:10 | <WoodWork> | Ahah. |
| 11:10 | <WoodWork> | ;D |
| 11:10 | <WoodWork> | Mine was little boring, to be honest. |
| 11:10 | <atula> | just got back from fire alarm drill. very lame. it's so freakin' cold in Boston right now. |
| 11:10 | <atula> | <-- first week at work. |
| 11:10 | <WoodWork> | atula: I suppose.. I bet you knew about it before it happened through? |
| 11:10 | <atula> | no! |
| 11:10 | <WoodWork> | though* |
| 11:11 | <WoodWork> | Oh? Word always seems to get around here. xD |
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| 11:12 | <amitz> | well, in the movie they always say "this is not a training" or something like that. So perhaps assume omission of that statement means it's just a drill? :-p |
| 11:12 | <JshWright> | or it could have been burnt toast |
| 11:13 | <mwalling> | if the smoke ejectors arent running, its not a real fire |
| 11:13 | <mwalling> | then again, i'm a muster coordinator for my floor... |
| 11:13 | <amitz> | about fire alarm... do you know melinjo, or gnetum gnenom JshWright? ;-) |
| 11:13 | <mwalling> | i'm supposed to be a role model |
| 11:14 | <purrdeta> | mwalling: you... a role model?! |
| 11:14 | <@Perihelion> | Our system turned everything on/off as needed regardless of whether or not it was a drill :< |
| 11:14 | <mwalling> | i know, right? |
| 11:14 | <amitz> | mwalling: you mean a smoke sucker then throw the smoke away? interesting, first time I heard about it :-p |
| 11:15 | <@Perihelion> | We had a haylon system too that they tested once |
| 11:15 | <@Perihelion> | (at my old job, btw :P) |
| 11:15 | <mwalling> | Perihelion: we have a 5 story atrium with a wind turbine inside it, they dont run the ejectors unless they have to |
| 11:15 | <@Perihelion> | That seems sensible |
| 11:15 | * | amitz googles. |
| 11:15 | <@Perihelion> | I'm not sure what the point of running everything in a drill is |
| 11:15 | <mwalling> | too hard to not run it |
| 11:16 | <JshWright> | mwalling: my first day at $CURRENT_EMPLOYER we had a smoke condition in a kitchen (burnt toast), as I stepped out of my office to head outside, two employees come marching down the hall with a fire extinguisher. At that point I decided I wanted nothing to do with $CURRENT_EMPLOYER's "incident response team" |
| 11:16 | <mwalling> | the panel trouble light has been on for a couple months now |
| 11:16 | <@Perihelion> | Well, if they would turn the keys as necessary on the panel it would be quite easy to disable some things |
| 11:16 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:16 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:16 | <@Perihelion> | Like they did with the gas :) |
| 11:16 | <mwalling> | JshWright: ha, we have fire protection, and their unioned, and non-union employees cant touch the extinguishers |
| 11:16 | <atula> | btw. do I need to setup anything after I install sendmail? I just need it to send webapp/server's email out.I don't need a full mta. I just need it to send out the emails. |
| 11:17 | <mwalling> | jed: and caker hasnt called the alarm company? |
| 11:17 | <JshWright> | mwalling: they probably also have things like... y'know... PPE? |
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| 11:17 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:17 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:17 | <amitz> | JshWright: what? non-unionized employees can't touch it? |
| 11:17 | <mwalling> | JshWright: everyone on the day shift has full beards... i doubt they pass fit test |
| 11:17 | <amitz> | oh, mwalling ^^ |
| 11:17 | <mwalling> | amitz: welcome to $megacorp |
| 11:18 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:18 | <@Perihelion> | Lol |
| 11:18 | <mwalling> | you have to be trained in the use of extinguishers |
| 11:18 | <JshWright> | mwalling: I've often thought about getting a private fire gig, seems like a nice easy ride |
| 11:18 | <mwalling> | but they wont train non-union employees... and exceeding your level of training is grounds for termination |
| 11:18 | <JshWright> | can you use the AED? |
| 11:19 | <@Perihelion> | So they'd fire you for putting out a fire? |
| 11:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:19 | <mwalling> | Perihelion: in theory, yes |
| 11:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:19 | <JshWright> | jed: yes |
| 11:19 | <@Perihelion> | That seems silly \o/ |
| 11:19 | <mwalling> | JshWright: donno, it says authorized personel only |
| 11:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:19 | <amitz> | mwalling: ah, I can see the logic and the ridiculous conclusion. It's still ridiculous.. |
| 11:19 | <@Perihelion> | I thought the whole point of those things was so that ANYONE could use them regardless of experience |
| 11:19 | <JshWright> | AED = Automated External Defibrillator |
| 11:19 | <mwalling> | Perihelion: those are the CR models |
| 11:19 | <mwalling> | (community responder) |
| 11:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:20 | <ericoc> | i was thinking defibulator |
| 11:20 | <ericoc> | is that even worse |
| 11:20 | <mwalling> | jed: theres more then one kind of defib though... AED is the common one... there are also SAED, which ambulances carry |
| 11:20 | <mwalling> | or something |
| 11:20 | <mwalling> | JshWright: do you know anyone who took the december emt-b? |
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| 11:21 | <JshWright> | yeah, we had half a dozen or so who took it |
| 11:21 | <mwalling> | anyone get their cards yet? |
| 11:21 | <JshWright> | nope |
| 11:21 | <JshWright> | he instructor hasn't gotten the scores back yet wither |
| 11:21 | <mwalling> | k, not just me |
| 11:21 | <JshWright> | s/wither/either/ |
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| 11:21 | <mwalling> | $Chief'sKid says that since i wasn't told i failed, i passed, and so $Chief appointed me ems coord |
| 11:22 | <JshWright> | heh |
| 11:22 | <JshWright> | that's an elected position for us (which means I get to decline the nomination ;) ) |
| 11:23 | <mwalling> | bastard |
| 11:25 | <JshWright> | that's a hard test to fail anyway... |
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| 11:25 | <Guspaz> | Aren't EMTs private companies in the US? |
| 11:25 | <JshWright> | in fact, it's a little frightening how hard it is to fail |
| 11:26 | <JshWright> | Guspaz: there are both public and private EMS agencies |
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| 11:26 | <atula> | quick question: do I need to setup anything after I install sendmail? I just need it to send webapp/server's email out.I don't need a full mta. I just need it to send out the emails. |
| 11:27 | <Guspaz> | Ours used to be private companies contracted by the crown corporation in charge of EMS, but now I think they all work directly for the crown corporation. |
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| 11:27 | <Guspaz> | Urgences-Santé, we call it. |
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| 11:27 | <Guspaz> | Which literally translates to Health Emergencies, I believe. |
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| 11:29 | <JshWright> | EMS servies are provided by a couple different companies, depending on where you live. Some are for-profit private companies, some are non-profit's with paid staff, and some are non-profit volunteer organizations (actually, most of them nowadays are a mixture of paid and volunteer) |
| 11:29 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 11:30 | <JshWright> | there's also a difference between transporting ambulance agencies, and Fire/Rescue first response agencies |
| 11:31 | <jackson_> | atula, I know on suse the sendmail is pretty well locked down by default |
| 11:31 | <JshWright> | in the suburban/rural communities around Syracuse, the ambulance agencies tend to cover large areas, so often a closer fire/rescue unit is dispatched as well to initiate care prior to the ambulance's arrival |
| 11:31 | <atula> | I am using centos. lemmme ask those guys |
| 11:31 | <JshWright> | atula: I outsource my e-mail to Google, so no help from me |
| 11:32 | <atula> | JshWright: me too with Google Apps. But I need to send message/updates to my user and tha tmay go above 500 per 24 hours |
| 11:33 | <atula> | which is a limitation on google Apps |
| 11:33 | <Guspaz> | Ours are all paid. And like everything in Quebec, they're unionized. |
| 11:33 | <jackson_> | yeah i have the same issue |
| 11:33 | <Guspaz> | Everything is unionized. |
| 11:33 | <Guspaz> | Single most unionized state in the entire world :( |
| 11:33 | <Guspaz> | Only place to have had a unionized walmart. Twice. I think you can guess what happened to them. |
| 11:33 | <atula> | better than onionized... breaths would be horrible |
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| 11:45 | <compwhizii> | Hi, a linode user SSH bruted my linode, can I talk to a staff member. I have logs. |
| 11:45 | <JshWright> | !abuse |
| 11:45 | <JshWright> | hrm.. |
| 11:45 | <pharaun> | dude |
| 11:45 | <pharaun> | http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/01/researchers-identify-command-servers-behind-google-attack.ars |
| 11:46 | <JshWright> | pharaun: old news |
| 11:46 | <pharaun> | oh? |
| 11:46 | <pharaun> | a friend just linked to me recently |
| 11:46 | <pharaun> | what was the deal? |
| 11:46 | <sorressean> | ssh bruted? |
| 11:46 | <sorressean> | learn to secure your ssh? :o |
| 11:46 | <compwhizii> | JshWright, I'd rather hand over the IP and info to staff directly, I don't seem to have much faith in abuse emails. |
| 11:46 | <pharaun> | oth are currently pointing to IP addresses owned by Linode, a US-based company that offers Virtual Private Server hosting. The IP addresses in question are within the same subnet, and they are six IP addresses apart from each other |
| 11:46 | <sorressean> | compwhizii: submit a ticket then |
| 11:47 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:47 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:47 | <pharaun> | that was in the article made me wonder what was up |
| 11:47 | <compwhizii> | jed, Alrighty then. |
| 11:47 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:48 | <Guspaz> | You print out your abuse e-mails? :P |
| 11:48 | <JshWright> | Guspaz: that wouldn't be completely absurd |
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| 11:49 | <Guspaz> | It would be a waste of paper, though. |
| 11:49 | <JshWright> | Guspaz: courts like paper, I find CYA type documents are always best kept on dead trees |
| 11:50 | <Peng> | pharaun: There hasn't been an official statement about it. It's not a particularly interesting situation for Linode. Every host gets abuse. |
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| 11:51 | <pharaun> | Peng: ah, so linode won't be going away cos just about every host has a chance of being used for something "bad" |
| 11:52 | <Peng> | pharaun: What do you mean? |
| 11:52 | <pharaun> | Peng: what i mean when i saw the article i was a bit worried that it would give linode a bad rap |
| 11:52 | <pharaun> | or what so not, but i guess in hind sight, just about all hosts would be vulternable to someone buying their services and using it for an attack |
| 11:53 | <JshWright> | pharaun: it's also important to note that the dynamic domains are "currently" pointing... |
| 11:53 | <pharaun> | good point |
| 11:53 | <compwhizii> | jed, typical abuse email sent |
| 11:53 | <Peng> | pharaun: Well, sure, it is bad press... |
| 11:53 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:53 | -!- | neilio is now known as zz_neilio |
| 11:53 | * | Peng shrugs. |
| 11:53 | <pharaun> | but it won't make the company fold overnight |
| 11:54 | <pharaun> | so haha yeah i guess i'm worrying about silly things :) |
| 11:54 | <Peng> | I already like Linode, so it doesn't bother me. If I had never heard of Linode before, it would probably make me uneasy. |
| 11:54 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:54 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 11:54 | <pharaun> | yeah, i like linode too, got a host with them, it has been *great* |
| 11:54 | <pharaun> | jed: thanks, reading |
| 11:54 | <Peng> | jed: There's a difference between "following" and "actually reading" .:D |
| 11:55 | <ericoc> | nice, got the fail whale |
| 11:55 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:55 | <pharaun> | lol |
| 11:56 | <pharaun> | yeah bad press ut, dyn dns, that's good point |
| 11:56 | <pharaun> | about it "pointing" |
| 11:56 | <compwhizii> | "The chinese attack on google was using linode VPS machines? Chinese government black ops hackers use the same VPS provider as me?" he says it like if it was true it would be a bad thing |
| 11:56 | <compwhizii> | i concur |
| 11:57 | <ericoc> | i feel like linode is famous now :p |
| 11:57 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:57 | <pharaun> | lol |
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| 11:58 | <Peng> | "Linode: flexible, high-performance, reliable espionage" :P |
| 11:58 | <pharaun> | indeed |
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| 12:00 | <compwhizii> | compwhizii's method for dealing with SSH bruteforcers. Step one: Look through auth.log, look for mass denies. |
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| 12:01 | <compwhizii> | Step two: WHOIS the IP. If it's american make a note of the IP and abuse email, otherwise forget it. |
| 12:01 | <compwhizii> | Step three: Add to iptables via webmin, sync to all servers. |
| 12:01 | <sorressean> | compwhizii: any reason why your sharing your amazing knowledge with us? |
| 12:01 | <compwhizii> | I'm bored. |
| 12:01 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:01 | <pharaun> | lol |
| 12:01 | <ericoc> | eric's method: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | this is kind of a stupid one |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | but i move my port to a different one |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | it gets rid of all of the stupid script kiddies |
| 12:02 | <compwhizii> | that works well too |
| 12:02 | <ericoc> | security by obscurity |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | sure it does not work for "nmap'd" |
| 12:02 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:02 | <sorressean> | well, now that you've enlightened me with your way to detect hackers, I shall have another cup of coffee to aid in my comntemplation. |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | but i use ssh key |
| 12:02 | * | sorressean wants to set up a honeypot on 22 |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | so i don't wory about password brute forcing *anyway* |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | but i just don't want to have to filter or see 2000000 lines of brute force attempt |
| 12:02 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:02 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | a day in my log |
| 12:02 | <ericoc> | pubkey auth+ i tend to use ssh over openvpn anyways |
| 12:02 | <pharaun> | yeah i don't have password auth at all |
| 12:03 | <pharaun> | its a purely lazyness move |
| 12:03 | <pharaun> | my concern about using "rate limit" |
| 12:03 | <sorressean> | I'm curious about something |
| 12:03 | <pharaun> | is locking myself out |
| 12:03 | <pharaun> | if someone is "brute forcing" |
| 12:03 | <ericoc> | my friend used to lock himself out like every day |
| 12:03 | <ericoc> | he wasn't so bright though |
| 12:03 | <sorressean> | if I switch to public keys, can I put two keys in for my auth? and yeah, I tend to lock myself out sometimes. <3 lish |
| 12:04 | <Pryon> | you can use eleventy keys |
| 12:04 | <ericoc> | you can put two pubkeys in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 12:04 | <ericoc> | as many as you want, yeah |
| 12:04 | <sorressean> | awesome. you just put them on their own line, no? |
| 12:04 | <ericoc> | yeah |
| 12:04 | <Pryon> | yup |
| 12:04 | <sorressean> | cool. my scp and ssh clients don't use the same key-types, so... I have to use two. :( |
| 12:05 | <pharaun> | hehe |
| 12:05 | <pharaun> | question with rate limit |
| 12:05 | <pharaun> | is this "global" or is it like per ip> |
| 12:05 | <sorressean> | it's global I believe. |
| 12:05 | <pharaun> | oh |
| 12:05 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:05 | <pharaun> | oh? |
| 12:06 | <sorressean> | well, there goes that "believe," |
| 12:06 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:06 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:06 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:06 | <pharaun> | i've been avoiding rate limit cos i don't want to "lock" myself out cos some script kiddie was brute forcing the machine |
| 12:06 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:07 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:07 | <pharaun> | oh |
| 12:07 | <pharaun> | sweet! |
| 12:07 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:07 | <pharaun> | never thought about that one |
| 12:07 | <pharaun> | jed: yeah i'm more used to PF myself |
| 12:07 | <pharaun> | but yeah |
| 12:07 | <sorressean> | is there a way using iptables to get a list of the rules it's got applied? I'd like to toss arno-iptables for my own config. |
| 12:08 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:08 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:08 | <sorressean> | yeah, I figured that's what it was. translating would be easier than reading through that script, though |
| 12:09 | <compwhizii> | why does it seem that I've locked myself out with iptables again |
| 12:09 | <compwhizii> | sigh |
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| 12:09 | <sorressean> | you don't have your rules for managing iptables? |
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| 12:09 | <sorressean> | I was waiting for those |
| 12:09 | <HalJordan> | issues in NJ ? |
| 12:09 | <Peng> | sorressean: It may be possible to convert one's key to the other's format. |
| 12:09 | <Peng> | Putty can convert to and/or from OpenSSH keys, for example. |
| 12:09 | <jed> | <redacted> |
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| 12:09 | <HalJordan> | ok |
| 12:09 | <compwhizii> | Oh okay It's not me |
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| 12:10 | <HalJordan> | compwhizii, yeah dude, i'm all over the network of the company i work for , trying our datacenters in NJ Atlanta , etc |
| 12:10 | <sorressean> | Peng: I'm using a screen reader, and when I'm on windows I use winSCP and secure CRT, they both generate different keys, I believe. |
| 12:10 | <HalJordan> | to see if i have proper routes to it and such |
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| 12:10 | <HalJordan> | heh |
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| 12:10 | <grawity> | WinSCP uses PuTTYgen, doesn't generate keys itself... |
| 12:10 | * | sorressean nods |
| 12:11 | <sorressean> | but secure CRT doesn't use puttygen. |
| 12:11 | -!- | DS [~4c12c1d5@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:11 | <jspiros> | Hmm, why is my linode not responding? |
| 12:11 | <brhelwig> | Newark? |
| 12:11 | <jspiros> | Yep |
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| 12:11 | <brhelwig> | same |
| 12:11 | <brhelwig> | their down |
| 12:11 | <brhelwig> | 13 of mine are down |
| 12:11 | <jspiros> | I haven't logged in for months |
| 12:11 | -!- | MonkeyIsland [MonkeyIsla@94.182.70.103] has joined #linode |
| 12:11 | <jspiros> | And right in the middle of my doing something, it goes down |
| 12:11 | <jspiros> | Bad luck :D |
| 12:11 | <sorressean> | :o |
| 12:11 | <sorressean> | 13? |
| 12:11 | <HalJordan> | oh way to go jspiros |
| 12:11 | <HalJordan> | your fault |
| 12:11 | <brhelwig> | yeah I just came on to see what the word was |
| 12:11 | <DS> | Alright so I am glad to see I am not the only one :P |
| 12:11 | <laser`> | Anyone having an issue with newark117? |
| 12:11 | <brhelwig> | hopefully not the bird |
| 12:12 | <possumguy> | oh sweet, guess I'm not the only one with a dead linode. |
| 12:12 | <HalJordan> | laser`, they are investigating |
| 12:12 | <jspiros> | HalJordan: well, I was just doing an svn update, it's not my fault if that's catastrophic |
| 12:12 | <laser`> | Oh heh, okay bigger issues then :) |
| 12:12 | <brhelwig> | yeah 13, theres lots more |
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| 12:12 | <brhelwig> | but not there |
| 12:12 | * | sorressean boggles |
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| 12:12 | <laser`> | My other Newark node is fine |
| 12:12 | <HalJordan> | uh oh |
| 12:12 | <HalJordan> | so not an uplink issue |
| 12:12 | <laser`> | oh actually |
| 12:12 | <HalJordan> | probably a switch |
| 12:12 | -!- | _Scott_ [~sdollins@76.214.54.76] has joined #linode |
| 12:12 | <laser`> | My other Newark node was moved to London |
| 12:12 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:12 | -!- | Znuff [~ibm86@89.45.83.245] has joined #linode |
| 12:12 | <laser`> | So disregard that |
| 12:12 | <Znuff> | Hi. |
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| 12:12 | <HalJordan> | k laser` |
| 12:12 | <Big-Mama> | Hi, it looks like my linode is "down". |
| 12:13 | <Znuff> | Same. |
| 12:13 | <_Scott_> | same here |
| 12:13 | -!- | newtfark [~newtfark@12.167.145.2] has joined #linode |
| 12:13 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:13 | <HalJordan> | lol |
| 12:13 | <Big-Mama> | I cant reach it by ping or irc.. |
| 12:13 | <compwhizii> | Big-Mama, they're investgating |
| 12:13 | <MonkeyIsland> | same here |
| 12:13 | <laser`> | Yeah, there appears to by issues in Newark |
| 12:13 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:13 | <Znuff> | Only in newark? |
| 12:13 | <newtfark> | something up in newark eh |
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| 12:13 | <brhelwig> | yeah |
| 12:13 | <HalJordan> | i actually feel bad for jed now |
| 12:13 | <Big-Mama> | ah, I hate that newark serverpark |
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| 12:13 | <HalJordan> | heh |
| 12:13 | <Znuff> | oh, hello there? linodes in london? |
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| 12:13 | <MonkeyIsland> | how much it takes to come back again? |
| 12:13 | <rawrwx> | linodes in newark? |
| 12:13 | <newtfark> | it's my fault, i was telling people how awesome newark is. woops :P |
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| 12:13 | <jimmysparkle> | argh panic panic!!!! my sites have gone down!!!! |
| 12:13 | <laser`> | MonkeyIsland: They'll let us know when they know :) |
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| 12:13 | <fahadsadah> | I think newark140 is down |
| 12:13 | * | sorressean has to install centos. :( |
| 12:13 | <TJ> | I'm down too, in Newark. |
| 12:13 | <brhelwig> | wow...i got my email out to customers on network problems in 4 minutes |
| 12:13 | <TJ> | Panicking, as well. |
| 12:14 | <rawrwx> | k cool |
| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | newark gone down?! |
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| 12:14 | <rawrwx> | network error? |
| 12:14 | <fahadsadah> | What, is it all of Newark?!?! |
| 12:14 | <laser`> | 17:13:08 | <@jed> we are investigating issues in newark, stand by |
| 12:14 | <Big-Mama> | Everyone is down in Newark |
| 12:14 | <rawrwx> | same |
| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | newark is down |
| 12:14 | <rawrwx> | kk |
| 12:14 | <compwhizii> | jimmysparkle, calm down jesus christ |
| 12:14 | <jspiros> | I also can't contact my linode from the ipv6 tunnel, I'm guessing a router is down of some sort |
| 12:14 | <brhelwig> | probably not everyone |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | AHHHHH PANDAMONIUM |
| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | arghhh |
| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | panic |
| 12:14 | <MonkeyIsland> | ok unfortunately I can't yell at linode. I have fallen in love it :/ |
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| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | everyone |
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| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | panic |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | JESUS IS COMING |
| 12:14 | <brhelwig> | LOUD NOISES |
| 12:14 | <fahadsadah> | EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | SCREAMING |
| 12:14 | <possumguy> | LOUD NOISES |
| 12:14 | <rawrwx> | FIRE IN THE DISCO! |
| 12:14 | <Big-Mama> | I need my linode god dammit! :D |
| 12:14 | * | HalJordan panics and runs around with hands in the air |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | who farted? |
| 12:14 | <rawrwx> | FIRE IN THE TACO BELL! |
| 12:14 | <compwhizii> | fahadsadah, shut up |
| 12:14 | <possumguy> | FIRE IN THE TACO BELL |
| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | panic more, our sites our down |
| 12:14 | <Big-Mama> | I did |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | OMFG |
| 12:14 | <Big-Mama> | sorry |
| 12:14 | <sorressean> | wtf |
| 12:14 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:14 | <MonkeyIsland> | lol |
| 12:14 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | lol |
| 12:14 | <dataiv> | where's the fire guys? ":) |
| 12:14 | <jimmysparkle> | ARGH |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | 4 hosts down |
| 12:14 | <newtfark> | pain pain pain |
| 12:14 | <sorressean> | did the channel just get taken over by a bunch of 13-year-old kids? |
| 12:14 | <Znuff> | My IP addres would change if I migrate to the london datacenter, right? ^^ |
| 12:14 | <MonkeyIsland> | its nice to see these many sites got down. we can have some sympathy now xDDD |
| 12:15 | <fahadsadah> | sorressean: No. |
| 12:15 | <newtfark> | sorressean: 31 ;) |
| 12:15 | <Big-Mama> | sorressean: yes |
| 12:15 | <Guspaz> | sorressean: A/S/L!!!!!!11111 |
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| 12:15 | <jimmysparkle> | i can SSH to my linode- but no network traffic to them |
| 12:15 | <crazed_> | uhh |
| 12:15 | <newtfark> | ROFFLE |
| 12:15 | <@tasaro> | http://status.linode.com/ |
| 12:15 | <laser`> | Znuff: Yes |
| 12:15 | <crazed_> | is there something wrong wiht linode? |
| 12:15 | <compwhizii> | jesus christ can staff please set +m |
| 12:15 | <fahadsadah> | The 13 year old kid is waiting patiently to hear what happened to his linode |
| 12:15 | -!- | theworkinggroup-sean [~theworkin@CPE0023697f71c7-CM00122540825e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:15 | -!- | Slitt6 [~3eadb8e4@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:15 | <laser`> | oooh, there's a Linode status site? Didn't know that :D |
| 12:15 | <sorressean> | was refering to jimmysparkle and someone else who scrolled up to fast |
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| 12:15 | <Znuff> | laser`, How much does it usually take? |
| 12:15 | <newtfark> | it said everything was fine when i checked ;) |
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| 12:15 | <fahadsadah> | tasaro: Thanks. |
| 12:15 | <crazed_> | aw damn mine is in neward |
| 12:15 | <crazed_> | newark* |
| 12:15 | <Slitt6> | hi folks... |
| 12:15 | <_Scott_> | I never knew status.linode.com existed. Nice. |
| 12:15 | <sorressean> | yes, they're fixing it |
| 12:15 | <Big-Mama> | fuck me |
| 12:15 | <Big-Mama> | this sucks |
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| 12:16 | <Slitt6> | connectivity problems on newark?? |
| 12:16 | <fahadsadah> | So the linodes are still up, just offline? |
| 12:16 | <sorressean> | yes, they're fixing it |
| 12:16 | <Big-Mama> | yeah |
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| 12:16 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:16 | <sorressean> | :p |
| 12:16 | <crazed_> | anyway to cancel the reboot i issued |
| 12:16 | <compwhizii> | fahadsadah, duh |
| 12:16 | <fahadsadah> | So our uptimes aren't ruined? |
| 12:16 | -!- | tuntis [~tuntis@vps.tuntis.net] has joined #linode |
| 12:16 | <crazed_> | oh wait it's pinging it up |
| 12:16 | <fahadsadah> | \o/ |
| 12:16 | <Big-Mama> | tuntis: http://status.linode.com/ |
| 12:16 | <theworkinggroup-sean> | is all swell at the newark data centre? can't access my linode.. not sure if it's just my server |
| 12:16 | -!- | Zelut [~christer@kuyaedz.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:16 | <Big-Mama> | Zelut: http://status.linode.com/ |
| 12:16 | <jimmysparkle> | haha fahadsadah |
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| 12:16 | <Big-Mama> | wrkq: http://status.linode.com/ |
| 12:16 | <jimmysparkle> | priorities |
| 12:16 | <compwhizii> | theworkinggroup-sean, I think you need to read more |
| 12:16 | <dataiv> | looks like routing issues fixd now |
| 12:16 | <brhelwig> | ooh nice |
| 12:16 | <dataiv> | *fixed |
| 12:16 | <theworkinggroup-sean> | ah i see. |
| 12:16 | -!- | xactive [~5c19520a@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:16 | <brhelwig> | like the status page |
| 12:16 | <Big-Mama> | xactive: http://status.linode.com/ |
| 12:16 | <laser`> | Yay, my Newark node is coming back up |
| 12:16 | <jimmysparkle> | YEY |
| 12:16 | <Zelut> | ..that's what I was looking for. thanks. |
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| 12:16 | <acphilly> | phew!! |
| 12:16 | <jimmysparkle> | MY SITES ARE BACKKKK!!!! |
| 12:16 | <fahadsadah> | Big-Mama: There is no need to spam that to everyone who joins. |
| 12:16 | <jimmysparkle> | Panic Over!!! |
| 12:16 | <_Scott_> | okay so i'm glad i switched to linode dns |
| 12:16 | <acphilly> | we are back |
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| 12:17 | <grawity> | London nodes ftw anyway |
| 12:17 | <Big-Mama> | fahadsadah: Oh yes there is. |
| 12:17 | <wrkq> | Perfect :) |
| 12:17 | <jimmysparkle> | As you were channel! |
| 12:17 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:17 | <theworkinggroup-sean> | compwhizii.. agree |
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| 12:17 | <possumguy> | mine is back up! |
| 12:17 | <possumguy> | and my linode, too! |
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| 12:17 | <jimmysparkle> | toot tooot |
| 12:17 | <dataiv> | looks fine everyone, splendid |
| 12:17 | <dataiv> | cheerio |
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| 12:17 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:17 | <newtfark> | im moving one of these to another dc lol |
| 12:17 | <fahadsadah> | grawity: Next time there's a real downage |
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| 12:17 | <newtfark> | laterszsszzsz |
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| 12:17 | <axod> | so what's up with NJ? |
| 12:17 | <newtfark> | 13 year old kid signing off |
| 12:17 | <fahadsadah> | I'm not ruining my uptime just to move it. |
| 12:17 | <@caker> | shit happens. |
| 12:17 | <DS> | :) all back here too |
| 12:17 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:17 | <newtfark> | lol |
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| 12:18 | <Nivex> | caker: Defecation occurs. |
| 12:18 | <sorressean> | jesus |
| 12:18 | <wrkq> | Indeed, Sir, indeed. |
| 12:18 | * | rawrwx is back up |
| 12:18 | <wrkq> | Happens from time to time. |
| 12:18 | <sorressean> | you would've thought it was the end of the world |
| 12:18 | <fahadsadah> | With all the idiots |
| 12:18 | <rawrwx> | yay |
| 12:18 | <_Scott_> | why would you move to another facility because of a 9 minute outage? |
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| 12:18 | <wrkq> | We (and even you) are just people, and to err is human. |
| 12:18 | <Slitt6> | in love with Newark..appear online!! |
| 12:18 | <mwalling> | wtf just happened? |
| 12:18 | <Slitt6> | yeaa righ! |
| 12:18 | <Nivex> | I just got back from lunch and noticed a few of my IRC users had bounced. Minimal impact. |
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| 12:18 | <rawrwx> | lol |
| 12:18 | <compwhizii> | _Scott_, you would have to be fahadsadah to do someting like that. |
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| 12:18 | <fahadsadah> | _Scott_: Actually, I've been meaning to move for a while now. |
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| 12:19 | <_Scott_> | newark is ftw |
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| 12:19 | <sorressean> | lies |
| 12:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
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| 12:19 | <callen> | jed: thanks for the heads up. |
| 12:19 | <@caker> | ZOMG!!!!111 |
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| 12:19 | <compwhizii> | Is this ever updated anymore or should we just stick to status? http://www.linode.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=25 |
| 12:19 | <Nivex> | RFE (low priority): RSS feed from status by data center. |
| 12:20 | * | axod panics and jumps ship to another planet |
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| 12:20 | <axod> | that's it! I'm going back to using 10baseT |
| 12:20 | <sadiq> | my carrier pigeons stayed up. |
| 12:20 | * | rogi takes over axod's original planet |
| 12:20 | <Nivex> | axod: semaphore! |
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| 12:20 | <pharaun> | arugh |
| 12:20 | <_Scott_> | Can you guys like make status report to a twitter account? :D |
| 12:21 | <rawrwx> | axod from HN? |
| 12:21 | <compwhizii> | My server is the best hands down http://vps1.compwhizii.net/ |
| 12:21 | <Guspaz> | I'm surprised that people panic over 7 minutes of downtime. |
| 12:21 | <axod> | rawrwx: yes. Although please don't hold it against me |
| 12:21 | <_Scott_> | 9 minutes Guspaz :P |
| 12:21 | <rawrwx> | hehe |
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| 12:21 | <fahadsadah> | sadiq: As did mine, but the IPoAC gateway routes through linode Newark. |
| 12:21 | -!- | LordMetroid [~lordmetro@90-224-93-243-no108.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #linode |
| 12:21 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 12:21 | -!- | kleinmp [~ae393b03@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
| 12:21 | <sorressean> | compwhizii: which is why your complaining about brute force, obviously |
| 12:21 | <_Scott_> | PingdomAlert UP: Newark - Linode (69.164.212.242) is UP again at 01/15/2010 11:16:27AM. Downtime: 9m. |
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| 12:21 | <compwhizii> | sorressean, they're just jealous |
| 12:22 | <rawrwx> | axod you showed up in that HN app posted a few days back |
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| 12:22 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o tychoish] by ChanServ |
| 12:22 | <axod> | rawrwx: ah the one about single founders? |
| 12:22 | <Guspaz> | HN? Honduras? |
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| 12:23 | <Guspaz> | Hanoi? |
| 12:23 | <rawrwx> | no no |
| 12:23 | <rawrwx> | axod http://www.swimwithoutgettingwet.com/hnusers/ |
| 12:23 | <axod> | http://news.ycombinator.com - Hacker news |
| 12:23 | <Guspaz> | Oh. |
| 12:23 | <axod> | rawrwx: ah that one :) cool |
| 12:24 | <rawrwx> | i gtg irc port is blocked and this cgi based irc is bogging down browser |
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| 12:24 | <grawity> | rawrwx: Try mibbit? |
| 12:24 | <rawrwx> | good idea |
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| 12:24 | <_Scott_> | Off topic: Has anyone used inspircd and atheme? |
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| 12:25 | <rawrwx> | :) |
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| 12:27 | <sorressean> | does centos have a denyhosts package? |
| 12:28 | <rawrwx> | axod: nice app btw ;) |
| 12:29 | <Karrde> | sorressean: looks like it. http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=centos+denyhosts&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
| 12:30 | <axod> | rawrwx: thanks :) We're getting serious this year... hopefully :/ |
| 12:30 | <sorressean> | cool cool. just wasn't sure if they had something like that. I need to use it for testing, but I figure the minute I get back up some idiot will be broot forcing again |
| 12:30 | <rawrwx> | axod: can you afford to live off mibbit? |
| 12:30 | <rawrwx> | oh really? |
| 12:31 | <axod> | rawrwx: depends where you live :/ |
| 12:31 | <axod> | some places you can live on $1/day |
| 12:31 | <rawrwx> | oh you |
| 12:32 | <rawrwx> | what i meant was, do you work on mibbit full-time? |
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| 12:32 | <axod> | not quite yet, do a bit of consulting and run another website |
| 12:33 | <axod> | but I could if I didn't spend so much on gambling+ice cream |
| 12:33 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:33 | <axod> | lol |
| 12:33 | <rawrwx> | hehe |
| 12:34 | <_Scott_> | I need more BBM friends, anyone wanna add me? |
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| 12:35 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Linode Status - http://status.linode.com/ in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5059>; |
| 12:35 | <axod> | is there a list of available linodes some place? I seem to remember a page showing how many in each location |
| 12:35 | <_Scott_> | yep |
| 12:35 | <Guspaz> | avail.cfm I think? |
| 12:35 | <_Scott_> | think so |
| 12:35 | <Guspaz> | http://www.linode.com/avail.cfm |
| 12:35 | <axod> | noticed I couldn't locate a 500 in London :/ |
| 12:35 | <Guspaz> | They have 42 of 'em? |
| 12:35 | <axod> | ah cool thx |
| 12:35 | <Guspaz> | Fremont is full, it seems. |
| 12:35 | <axod> | 540* |
| 12:36 | <axod> | hmm odd then, unless I misread, it was late... |
| 12:36 | <rawrwx> | Atlanta is barren |
| 12:36 | <_Scott_> | fremont1 in HE is completely full apparently, is linode going to get anymore room there in the future? |
| 12:36 | <rawrwx> | anyone on an Atlanta linode? |
| 12:36 | <axod> | I assume London doesn't have any silly filtering like Atlanta is it filters all IRC traffic? |
| 12:36 | <_Scott_> | Nope. We run an IRC leaf in london |
| 12:36 | <Guspaz> | Haven't heard of any. |
| 12:36 | <axod> | _Scott_: ah cool to know |
| 12:37 | <_Scott_> | i submimtted a ticket asking that the first day they became available xd |
| 12:37 | <Guspaz> | does irc.mibbit.net also run off Linode? |
| 12:37 | <_Scott_> | submitted* |
| 12:37 | <tjfontaine> | axod: atlanta only filters inbound irc |
| 12:37 | <_Scott_> | wow fail spelling |
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| 12:38 | -!- | Guest2257 is now known as dcraig |
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| 12:39 | <axod> | tjfontaine: ah, still, I hate the idea of any port based filtering |
| 12:39 | <axod> | don't they also disallow running any IRC things though? |
| 12:39 | <axod> | Guspaz: it does. |
| 12:40 | <rb> | Fremont's full !? Correct to assume that that prevents even upgrades of existing linodes? |
| 12:40 | <_Scott_> | rb: the actual datacenter is full i believe |
| 12:41 | <rawrwx> | axod: what language did you implement it in? |
| 12:41 | <rawrwx> | also props on the front-end, very low overhead in firefox |
| 12:41 | <axod> | rawrwx: mib BE is 1990s bloated verbose idiotic Java |
| 12:42 | <Guspaz> | BE? |
| 12:42 | <axod> | I haven't drunk enough Ruby koolaid yet ;) |
| 12:42 | <axod> | backend |
| 12:42 | <rawrwx> | heh |
| 12:42 | <axod> | rawrwx: thanks :) |
| 12:42 | <@Perihelion> | <3 java |
| 12:42 | <tjfontaine> | axod: it's nice to have as a client if you ask for it, not as a policy for a DC I agree |
| 12:42 | <Guspaz> | Mibbit also works rather well in Chrome when you appify it; no browser UI means the window looks like a "real" app. |
| 12:42 | <axod> | chrome is just awesome |
| 12:42 | <axod> | loving it |
| 12:42 | <rb> | _Scott_ eesh :-/ |
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| 12:43 | <axod> | java is great IMHO, big corporations misuse of it is the problem. |
| 12:43 | <Guspaz> | I would like, though, for Chrome to have an option to not use the primary browser UI process for appified sites. |
| 12:43 | <Guspaz> | As in, double click the mibbit icon on my desktop, and it doesn't share the UI process with my web browsing. |
| 12:43 | <@Perihelion> | Well, ever since they fixed the garbage collection issue it runs much better |
| 12:43 | <@Perihelion> | brb |
| 12:43 | <axod> | don't they each use different processes? |
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| 12:43 | <Guspaz> | They all share the UI process, unfortunately. |
| 12:44 | <Guspaz> | So, mibbit gets its own process for most things, but you still can't restart the UI process (say, memory bloat) without killing mibbit. |
| 12:45 | <Guspaz> | I've managed to trigger race conditions where it did, though, by starting up mibbit and chrome at the same time. |
| 12:45 | <Guspaz> | I've seen occasionally two browser UI processes get spawned. |
| 12:45 | * | rb thinks time to call switchanddata/palo alto |
| 12:45 | <axod> | ah that sucks, |
| 12:46 | <axod> | they seem pretty responsive to bug reports / feature reqs, |
| 12:46 | <axod> | you should add one |
| 12:46 | <MonkeyIsland> | my linode seems slower after the problem was resolved. any idea? |
| 12:47 | <wrkq> | Half of the datacenter did not read the info and rebooted anyway? |
| 12:47 | <Guspaz> | Probably. |
| 12:48 | <axod> | read what info? |
| 12:48 | <axod> | ah manual reboots? |
| 12:48 | <wrkq> | That net will be back in a sec and "reboots aren't necessary"? |
| 12:49 | <wrkq> | I still have my 79+3/4 days of uptime, since that huge crashout. It was only a network problem, after all. |
| 12:49 | <_Scott_> | dont even complain about 9 minutes |
| 12:49 | <_Scott_> | one provider i use was down for 3 days last week |
| 12:50 | <wrkq> | I am not, _Scott_... I'm very happy about it. |
| 12:50 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:50 | <_Scott_> | me too lol |
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| 12:50 | <wrkq> | Was just pointing out that probably all the Linodes whose owners went "OMG IT'S DOWN LET'S HIT REBOOT" are increasing the host load. |
| 12:51 | <_Scott_> | I wish linode would have status reports sent to a twitter account as well |
| 12:51 | <_Scott_> | i always have tweetgenius and tweetdeck open |
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| 12:52 | <wrkq> | Well, I guess you could find a rss2twitter gate somewhere... |
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| 12:53 | <dKingston> | wonder what just happened |
| 12:53 | <dKingston> | i just got back |
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| 12:53 | <dKingston> | and my page up/down keys are broken |
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| 12:54 | * | mwalling thinks the LPM should keep a cache of host statuses and not let you reboot if the host aint pinging |
| 12:54 | <_Scott_> | wrkq i think that would make the updates a little delayed |
| 12:55 | <wrkq> | Possible. |
| 12:55 | <MonkeyIsland> | Is it normal that my site works slowly after the problem got resolved? |
| 12:56 | <wrkq> | Hmm... maybe... put a copy of the status.linode.com content into the control panel? |
| 12:56 | <mwalling> | MonkeyIsland: [01-15] 12:47:30 < wrkq> Half of the datacenter did not read the info and rebooted anyway? |
| 12:56 | <wrkq> | At least the front page with list of nodes, so it's seen right after login? |
| 12:57 | <wrkq> | (making it red and blinky if something's happening RightNow is optional) |
| 12:57 | <mwalling> | <marquee><blink>urmom</blink></marquee> |
| 12:57 | <Dean> | Hey all, I 8 sites running on my new(er) linode. I'm using Apache2 on Ubuntu 9.10 and I'm running into trouble creating a subdomain. The warning I get from Apache when I restart the server is: [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts Thoughts? |
| 12:57 | * | wrkq fails at being funny... as usual. |
| 12:57 | <mwalling> | Dean: well, do you have any virtual hosts? |
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| 12:58 | <Dean> | Almost said, "urmom has virtual hosts".... Uh - good question. I coulda sworn I set them up. Lemme see if I can post code. |
| 12:59 | <mwalling> | !pb |
| 12:59 | <linbot> | Paste your bulk content into the text box on http://p.linode.com/; after submitting, copy and paste the URL to which you were redirected (e.g. http://p.linode.com/1234) into the channel. The password is right there in the popup login dialog. |
| 12:59 | <mwalling> | also, make sure the NameVirtualHost argument matches the <VirtualHost> argument |
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| 13:00 | <Peng> | Guspaz: whois says irc.mibbit.net is a Newark Linode IP. |
| 13:00 | * | Peng scrolls down. Oooooooooh. Oops. |
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| 13:01 | <Guspaz> | Funny, I didn't lose connection to it when newark went down./ |
| 13:02 | <Guspaz> | Via mibbit's main client in Fremont :P |
| 13:02 | <_Scott_> | they probably have more than one leaf? |
| 13:02 | <Dean> | http://pastebin.com/d5de8c0cf <-- /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 13:02 | <Guspaz> | _Scott_: Possible, but I didn't notice a netsplit. |
| 13:03 | <Peng> | If the connection wasn't down long, it may not have timed out. |
| 13:03 | <Peng> | If you don't actually send any traffic, it's not like TCP will notice. |
| 13:04 | <Pryon> | Dean: you might already have a NameVirtualHost directive in ports.conf (unless ubuntu does it differently than debian) |
| 13:04 | <Peng> | Also it said "some routes". |
| 13:04 | <Dean> | *looking* |
| 13:05 | <axod> | do linode have any specific stuff for datacenter->datacenter routing I wonder |
| 13:05 | <axod> | maybe that plays some role |
| 13:05 | <axod> | ah well, all is good in the world now, and it's friday! |
| 13:05 | <wrkq> | Besides, why are you putting your vhosts in httpd.conf instead of useing the sites-available / sites-enabled system? |
| 13:05 | <Peng> | axod: Doubt it. |
| 13:05 | <Dean> | Pryon: so my virtual host info should go in there? |
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| 13:05 | <Peng> | axod: The routes between data centers look like normal Internet routes to me. |
| 13:05 | <Guspaz> | I dream of a day where private networks span datacentres, but with only one Linode, that wouldn't exactly benefit me. |
| 13:06 | <Dean> | there is a NameVirtualHost *:80 in there |
| 13:06 | <Pryon> | Dean: The definitions for your vhosts should go in /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 13:06 | <Pryon> | then use a2ensite to turn them on |
| 13:06 | <Peng> | Guspaz: You could use the private network NTP servers in other DCs, saving cents of bandwidth a century! |
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| 13:07 | <@Perihelion> | 17:43:42 < axod> don't they each use different processes? <-- Yeah they threaded it apparently |
| 13:07 | <@Perihelion> | (Late...went to 7-11 :D) |
| 13:07 | <Dean> | Okie dokie. I am pretty sure this is just an issue of my lack of vocabulary. I have multiple sites already running and have used a2ensite to turn them on and init.d scripts to reboot. Now I'm looking at making a subdomain on one of the currently enabled sites. |
| 13:07 | <mwalling> | Dean: so? |
| 13:08 | <@Perihelion> | you can use the same process |
| 13:08 | <Dean> | Sew buttons on ice cream. |
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| 13:08 | <mwalling> | Dean: setting up foo.example.com is the same as setting up www.example.com in the httpd's eyes |
| 13:08 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:08 | <Guspaz> | lol |
| 13:08 | <Dean> | Touché |
| 13:08 | <WoodWork> | me likes the new status updates. |
| 13:08 | <Guspaz> | Perihelion: Chrome runs things in different processes (not per-tab, but almost), but everything shares one single browser UI process. |
| 13:09 | <Dean> | Lemme re-approach, then. |
| 13:09 | <mwalling> | just create another "site", but name it yoursubdomain.example.com |
| 13:09 | <@Perihelion> | Guspaz: I thought he was talking about garbage collection :P |
| 13:09 | <@Perihelion> | My bad |
| 13:09 | <Dean> | mwalling: I think that's what I needed to hear. Now we're cooking with gas. Thanks! |
| 13:09 | <Dean> | I'll let you know when I screw it up. |
| 13:10 | <Guspaz> | It's a simple enough fix that even I could probably implement it without that much work :P |
| 13:10 | <mwalling> | Dean: the ServerName inside a <VirtualHost> just matches what comes in on the Host HTTP request header |
| 13:10 | <Pryon> | mwalling: rule #4 fail. AGAIN |
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| 13:10 | <Dean> | Where are the rules? |
| 13:10 | <Pryon> | !therules |
| 13:10 | <linbot> | The rules: (#1) RTFM, (#2) urmom is *always* relevant, (#3) SelfishMan is the resident arrogant prick, (#4) mwalling is the resident asshole |
| 13:10 | <mwalling> | Dean: httpd doesnt know anything about dns, except if you turn on writing the hostnames to the access.log |
| 13:10 | -!- | Clooth|away is now known as Clooth |
| 13:11 | <Guspaz> | !urmom |
| 13:11 | <Dean> | You know the rules and so do I. |
| 13:11 | <mwalling> | Pryon: well, Dean fails at rule 1. so there |
| 13:11 | <linbot> | Guspaz: Yo momma's so fat, even Vista moves faster than her (828:4/6) [ourmm] |
| 13:11 | <Guspaz> | !urmom |
| 13:11 | <linbot> | Guspaz: Yo momma's so fake, Mythbusters did an episode on her! (742:6/0) [muomr] |
| 13:11 | <@Perihelion> | :< Dean |
| 13:11 | <Dean> | youch... |
| 13:11 | <Guspaz> | !urmom vote up 742 |
| 13:11 | <linbot> | Guspaz: Voted up 742 [uomrm] |
| 13:11 | <@Perihelion> | Dean just lost the game |
| 13:12 | <Dean> | Dudes - I read about for at least half an hour before I even begin to open my IRC client. I hate looking the fool. |
| 13:12 | <Dean> | Alas, here I am again. |
| 13:13 | <wrkq> | Story of my life... |
| 13:14 | <@Perihelion> | :P |
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| 13:16 | <linbot> | New news from forums: satus.linode.com LJ feed? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5060>; |
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| 13:18 | <mwalling> | Dean: you read the wrong thing then |
| 13:19 | <Pryon> | okay, okay |
| 13:21 | <Dean> | CURSES! |
| 13:21 | <Dean> | If do right, no can defend. |
| 13:22 | -!- | Clooth is now known as Clooth|away |
| 13:22 | <randallman> | heh |
| 13:22 | <randallman> | sweep the leg, dude |
| 13:23 | -!- | Clooth|away is now known as Clooth |
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| 13:26 | <Dean> | Thank god someone's old enough to get my joke ;) |
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| 13:28 | <randallman> | heh |
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| 13:33 | <mwalling> | i be a youngin |
| 13:33 | -!- | Clooth is now known as Clooth|away |
| 13:33 | <mwalling> | every time i say how old i am, SelfishMan dies a little |
| 13:34 | <axod> | just think... in 10 years time, we'll be living in the 20s |
| 13:34 | <JshWright> | you're younger than me, right? |
| 13:34 | <randallman> | heh |
| 13:35 | * | randallman is 35 years young... |
| 13:35 | <JshWright> | I'm ~25.56 |
| 13:35 | * | axod =0x1f |
| 13:35 | <randallman> | heh |
| 13:35 | <randallman> | 31? |
| 13:35 | <randallman> | god Im feeling old |
| 13:36 | <axod> | yep |
| 13:36 | <Guspaz> | I'm merely 24. |
| 13:36 | <spkitty> | the average age of irc channels keeps rising though |
| 13:36 | <axod> | after 32, there's only 64 which is a special birthday :/ |
| 13:36 | <spkitty> | i remember when being 16 wasn't that young, now everybody is in their 20s or beyond |
| 13:36 | <axod> | unless we develop something to make you live until 128 |
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| 13:36 | <Guspaz> | What of 48? |
| 13:36 | <wrkq> | Not a power of 2. |
| 13:36 | <JshWright> | I have absolutely no desire to live to 128 |
| 13:37 | <Guspaz> | Doesn't need to be a power of two :( |
| 13:37 | <JshWright> | heck, I don't want to get that far past 64 |
| 13:37 | <axod> | that can be arranged |
| 13:37 | <axod> | for a fee |
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| 13:38 | <JshWright> | axod: after 64 or so I figure I'll just play it by ear... I'll be sure to let you know if I make a decision |
| 13:39 | <rogi> | 35 is old? |
| 13:39 | <rogi> | god now I feel really old |
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| 13:40 | <wrkq> | Well, it all depends on one's personality and life. |
| 13:40 | <wrkq> | I'm merely 024 and I feel old. |
| 13:40 | <wrkq> | (yes, octal) |
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| 13:40 | <_Scott_> | ye 35 is old. |
| 13:40 | <@Perihelion> | old men |
| 13:40 | <JshWright> | spkitty: the average age of [the] irc channels [you hang out in] keeps rising |
| 13:41 | <@Perihelion> | the average age of one of the networks I'm on has to be like 13 |
| 13:41 | <@Perihelion> | :< |
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| 13:44 | <atula> | well this is weird. I ran a ln -s targetfile.txt /somedir/targetfile.txt and I don't think the end result is correct. |
| 13:45 | <atula> | I do a vim targetfile.text at somedir/ and it's blank |
| 13:45 | <atula> | how come ? |
| 13:46 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 13:46 | <atula> | oooh I see |
| 13:46 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 13:47 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 13:47 | <atula> | so i need to do absolute path on all files |
| 13:47 | <atula> | no wonder the link was red |
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| 13:50 | <ericoc> | lighttpd will whore a lot less memory than apache, true/false? |
| 13:50 | <ericoc> | thinking of switching |
| 13:50 | <wrkq> | That's why the recommended ways of making symlinks are a pair of absolute paths or (cd /target/dir; ln -s ../relative/source/file target) |
| 13:50 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 13:50 | <wrkq> | Depends. |
| 13:51 | <wrkq> | If you have apache with prefork and php, yea. |
| 13:51 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 13:51 | <ericoc> | well i'm not hosting much on apache at the moment, simple php site, and wordpress |
| 13:51 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 13:51 | <wrkq> | But mMoving PHP to fastcgi is a good idea for any server, incliding apache. |
| 13:51 | <ericoc> | but i'll run free -m and see something in swap which is bad? |
| 13:51 | <atula> | it's all good now :) I was just trying to get a .tph into site-packages |
| 13:52 | <ericoc> | i fault either apache or mysql, i'm not sure which is eating more memory |
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| 13:54 | <chesty> | Clooth: urmom sucks |
| 13:54 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Ars points finger for Chinese attack at Linode? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5053>; |
| 13:54 | <Clooth> | rly |
| 13:54 | <Peng> | Wowww. |
| 13:55 | <remag> | Not sure if anyone is around thats pretty good with postfix mail server, but I've been receiving assistance for 3-5 days now, and verry greatful for that. However, im still having problems with all emails going to spam to an outside email addy. Any help is welcomed |
| 13:55 | <Peng> | The question is, is it cooler for Linode to be the VPS provider of choice for Chinese spies or Google? |
| 13:55 | <linbot> | New news from blog: Linode and the Google Cyber Attacks <http://blog.linode.com/2010/01/15/linode-and-the-google-cyber-attacks/>; |
| 13:55 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 13:56 | <Karrde> | td;ni |
| 13:57 | <Peng> | ? |
| 13:58 | <mwalling> | too detailed not interested? |
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| 13:59 | <Peng> | Maybe it was "too dumb" or "too donkey-related". |
| 13:59 | <linbot> | New news from forums: status.linode.com LJ feed? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5060>; |
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| 14:00 | <ericoc> | i have a signed .crt from CACert, how do i turn that into a .pem for lighttpd? |
| 14:00 | <Nivex> | I thought a .crt was a .pem |
| 14:00 | <ericoc> | i have no idea? |
| 14:00 | <ericoc> | let's find out! |
| 14:02 | <jvaughan> | a .pem contains both the .crt and .key |
| 14:02 | <ericoc> | oh, then how do i make a .pem |
| 14:02 | <ericoc> | out of a crt and a key |
| 14:02 | <jvaughan> | cat file.key file.crt > file.pem |
| 14:03 | <jvaughan> | making sure file.pem doesn't already exist |
| 14:03 | <ericoc> | i have two .key's actually, i have one i named server.key.unsecure that i used in apache because apache didn't used to start unless i gave it a password on startup |
| 14:04 | <jvaughan> | which .key did you use to generate the certifcate signing request? |
| 14:04 | <ericoc> | nevermind, the contents are the same |
| 14:04 | <jvaughan> | ok |
| 14:05 | <ericoc> | sweet it works :] |
| 14:05 | <ericoc> | jvaughan: thanks |
| 14:05 | <jvaughan> | no problem |
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| 14:06 | <ericoc> | someday i'll get a cert more "trustworthy" than CACert so every browser doesn't nag me |
| 14:07 | <Nivex> | just stay away from these guys: http://certs.ipsca.com/ |
| 14:07 | <Nivex> | we had a free cert through them because we're a .edu |
| 14:07 | <Nivex> | but they botched their root cert so badly that it doesn't work in FF anymore |
| 14:07 | <rawrwx> | axod: [People said stuff!] :3 |
| 14:07 | <ericoc> | i actually had Comodo telemarket me because my cacert was expiring recently |
| 14:08 | <ericoc> | trying to sell me a cert, the woman on the phone actually said "If you don't have a certificate, anybody can hack your website at any time!" |
| 14:08 | <jvaughan> | [citation needed][citation needed] |
| 14:08 | <rawrwx> | axod: you hang out on freenode in #debian a lot? |
| 14:08 | <mwalling> | http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/aq3xz/linode_and_the_google_cyber_attacks/ and http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1055570 ... GOGOGOGO! |
| 14:09 | <@caker> | #3 on HN already.. |
| 14:09 | <JshWright> | karma whore |
| 14:09 | <ericoc> | linode is famous now |
| 14:09 | <mwalling> | farking $Work Proxy |
| 14:09 | <JshWright> | ericoc: hate to break it to you, but Linode was already pretty famous |
| 14:09 | <ericoc> | true |
| 14:10 | <rawrwx> | caker: you bank more karma on submisions? |
| 14:10 | <@pparadis> | vote as you wish --> http://slashdot.org/submission/1151938/Linode-Clarifies-Involvement-in-Google-Hack-Claims |
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| 14:10 | <Nivex> | mwalling: it proxies all your $work to fark? :) |
| 14:10 | <ericoc> | JshWright: they weren't slashdot famous though! |
| 14:10 | <JshWright> | ericoc: HN matter more than Slashdot, IMO |
| 14:11 | <axod> | rawrwx: not really :) why? |
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| 14:12 | <rawrwx> | cause I've chatted extensively with an axod there |
| 14:12 | <rawrwx> | under mlLK or asdfqwer |
| 14:12 | <rawrwx> | about RAID and hardware |
| 14:12 | <Guspaz> | Any nick 4-characters long is bound to have duplicates. |
| 14:12 | <Peng> | It's not worth visiting Slashdot for that. |
| 14:13 | <@pparadis> | heh :) |
| 14:13 | <rawrwx> | Yeah but I figure most users register with nickserv |
| 14:13 | <rawrwx> | ok not most |
| 14:13 | <@Perihelion> | imposters! |
| 14:13 | <rawrwx> | but most debian users |
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| 14:13 | <Guspaz> | I haven't, but I've never seen another "Guspaz". Although recently some guy named "Gus Paz" started showing up in Google search results. |
| 14:14 | <Nivex> | 14:13:53 -NickServ- Nickname urmom is not registered. |
| 14:14 | * | Nivex waits for it |
| 14:14 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:14 | <rawrwx> | lol |
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| 14:14 | <Guspaz> | I'd change my name to jed, but I bet it's registered. |
| 14:15 | <@urmom> | Jan15 14:14:55 -NickServ(services@services.oftc.net)- Nickname urmom is now linked to master jed. |
| 14:15 | <rawrwx> | heh, Guspaz your last name? |
| 14:15 | <Nivex> | jed: well played sir |
| 14:15 | <Guspaz> | No, Guspaz is a nickname of a nickname. |
| 14:15 | <rawrwx> | you metafag ;) |
| 14:15 | <Guspaz> | I was once given the nickname "Gustoff Gustofferson", and Guspaz evolved from that. |
| 14:15 | <axod> | haven't seen any other axod's about, but then I expect someone probably took the nick over on freenode when I was g-lined |
| 14:15 | <randallman> | heh |
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| 14:15 | <randallman> | randallman just rolls off the tongue well :0 |
| 14:15 | <rawrwx> | g-lined? |
| 14:16 | <Guspaz> | banned |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | G: |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | global banning |
| 14:16 | <rawrwx> | ohhh |
| 14:16 | <@Perihelion> | I forgot about that |
| 14:16 | <@Perihelion> | :< |
| 14:16 | * | rawrwx learned something new |
| 14:16 | * | Perihelion plots |
| 14:16 | <mwalling> | HA |
| 14:16 | <mwalling> | #1 on HN bitches! |
| 14:16 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | Kline, Gline, etc... :) |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | Cline/Nline (IRC server connection) |
| 14:16 | <randallman> | old school... woot |
| 14:16 | <axod> | I suggested to freenode that users could connect using whatever client they wanted using their own IP. Freenode disagreed :/ |
| 14:16 | <@Perihelion> | xlines! |
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| 14:16 | <rawrwx> | I've been seriously slacking on my karma for over 3 months now |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | What's an Xline? |
| 14:17 | * | rawrwx doesn't get enough comment love :( |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | Have I forgotten how to run an IRCD? |
| 14:17 | <rawrwx> | man yourself |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | 'man' up |
| 14:17 | <randallman> | heh |
| 14:17 | <Nivex> | I run ngicrd. None of these obscure lettered lines. INI style syntax that's readable. |
| 14:17 | <Nivex> | *ngircd |
| 14:17 | <@Perihelion> | xline can mean *line, most often referring to bans (g/k/z/etc) |
| 14:18 | <Guspaz> | But what about priceline? |
| 14:18 | <JshWright> | mwalling: when you get a submission to #1 _and_ 100+ points, then we'll talk ;p |
| 14:18 | <@Perihelion> | THE PRICE IS WRONG, BEYOTCH |
| 14:18 | <Nivex> | Guspaz: that...only...works... if you... talk... like... Bill... SHATNER! |
| 14:18 | <@Perihelion> | I totally read that in his voice |
| 14:18 | <@Perihelion> | :( |
| 14:19 | <@Perihelion> | :o |
| 14:19 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 14:19 | <Nivex> | * jed o-faces urmom |
| 14:19 | <Nivex> | which, based on the nickserv link means himself |
| 14:19 | <Guspaz> | Shatner is from Montreal. McGill university named a building after him. He showed up at the dedication ceremony all honoured. He didn't realize that they were making fun of him. |
| 14:19 | * | pleia2 waves to Perihelion |
| 14:19 | <@Perihelion> | :D pleia2! |
| 14:19 | <@Perihelion> | Long time no see haha |
| 14:19 | <pleia2> | didn't realize you'd been hired at Linode :) congrats! |
| 14:19 | <@Perihelion> | Thanks! |
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| 14:19 | <@Perihelion> | How're things? |
| 14:20 | <pleia2> | good good, moving from Philly out to San Francisco in a month |
| 14:20 | <@Perihelion> | :o Nice |
| 14:20 | <mwalling> | pleia2: wont mikegrb be upset? |
| 14:20 | <pleia2> | yeah, I'm excited :) |
| 14:20 | <pleia2> | mwalling: maybe |
| 14:20 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 14:20 | <@Perihelion> | I used to live in CA...neat, albeit expensive, area |
| 14:20 | * | pleia2 nods |
| 14:20 | <rawrwx> | Great, I just moved a client over to linode a couple months ago, now this le, light engineering, energy efficient, motors, electric motors, generators, intergrated systems, apus, light towers, power density, operating effective, cost effective, power dense traction drive system, power generation, SmartTorq, torque dense alternator, torque dense alternator, to |
| 14:20 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:20 | <rawrwx> | lol |
| 14:20 | <rawrwx> | opps |
| 14:21 | <rawrwx> | http://blog.linode.com/2010/01/15/linode-and-the-google-cyber-attacks/ |
| 14:21 | <mwalling> | rawrwx: you can turn off right click paste in putty |
| 14:21 | <JshWright> | rawrwx: that's some weird spam-fu you got going on there... |
| 14:21 | <mwalling> | rawrwx: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1055570 |
| 14:21 | <@Perihelion> | Pwnt |
| 14:21 | * | rawrwx is doing SEO garbage |
| 14:22 | <rawrwx> | the client does a lot business in China. . . |
| 14:22 | <rawrwx> | and I migrated them since their IP was blocked |
| 14:23 | <@Perihelion> | :< |
| 14:23 | <rawrwx> | now it's probably gonna get blocked again |
| 14:24 | <xpurple> | I need advice. I setup an xserver on my linode and I can vnc in and use it, but for some reason my keyboard doesn't work right. It's like its all mapped wrong. Any advice? |
| 14:24 | <mwalling> | dont use X |
| 14:24 | <JshWright> | use SSH and a terminal? |
| 14:24 | <xpurple> | In general, yes. |
| 14:24 | <xpurple> | But there are a few applications that are X only. |
| 14:25 | <@Perihelion> | o.O |
| 14:25 | * | Guspaz prefers NX to VNC. Much faster. |
| 14:25 | <xpurple> | I only want it for light use. |
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| 14:25 | <Guspaz> | NX is lighter than VNC and allows you to run a single application without a desktop environment or window manager. |
| 14:26 | <xpurple> | I will look into that. |
| 14:26 | <_Scott_> | why not just use ssh? |
| 14:26 | <xpurple> | Because I want to run X. |
| 14:26 | <Nivex> | for quick and dirty: ssh -XC yourlinode xapplication |
| 14:26 | <Guspaz> | You could, for example, run uTorrent on a Linux box with NX, connect to it from a Windows box, and you'd be hard pressed to tell that uTorrent wasn't running locally on the Windows box. |
| 14:26 | <Guspaz> | It'd have a task-bar entry, it would have an icon in the sys-tray and could be minimized to sys-tray, etc. |
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| 14:27 | <xpurple> | I can throw applicaions via ssh tunnels, but my home internet can be flakey and I hate to have the program stop working because of a connection issue locally. |
| 14:27 | <Guspaz> | NX sessions are connection-independent. |
| 14:27 | <mwalling> | NX? |
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| 14:27 | <Guspaz> | mwalling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology |
| 14:27 | <Nivex> | I've never been able to get nx working, though admittedly I haven't tried lately |
| 14:28 | <mwalling> | i've never tried, it just sounds like it fits the use case |
| 14:28 | <Nivex> | I want to be able to "apt-get install freenx" on ubuntu and just have it work |
| 14:28 | <Nivex> | it's not there yet |
| 14:28 | <Guspaz> | It's more like RDP than VNC. It takes X and does compression/caching, but most of the savings are from eliminating most round-trips. |
| 14:29 | <Guspaz> | I've never used freenx, only the closed-source version. |
| 14:29 | <wrkq> | From what I heard freenx isn't quite up to par with the commercial one... |
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| 14:29 | <wrkq> | But then, I have yet to try either of then. |
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| 14:29 | <wrkq> | s/n.$/m./ |
| 14:30 | <rawrwx> | Guspaz: what else is out there for Linux besides VNC? |
| 14:30 | <rawrwx> | and freenx |
| 14:30 | <Guspaz> | non-free nx ;) |
| 14:30 | <rawrwx> | heh |
| 14:31 | <Guspaz> | XDMCP over the internet if you want to stab your eyes out. |
| 14:31 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:31 | <rawrwx> | lol |
| 14:31 | <rawrwx> | I've experimented with a couple of them awhile back but it was a nightmare |
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| 14:31 | <Guspaz> | Perhaps there's some software that uses RDP on Linux (as the host) |
| 14:32 | <Guspaz> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software |
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| 14:33 | <rawrwx> | Guspaz: rdesktop |
| 14:33 | <rawrwx> | that was it |
| 14:33 | <Dianoga> | Except that's backwards |
| 14:33 | <mwalling> | rdesktop is a terminal services client |
| 14:33 | <Guspaz> | That's client-only. |
| 14:34 | <mwalling> | unless LTS stands for longhorn terminal services... |
| 14:35 | <Nivex> | it would be nice if you could somehow wedge some of the dxpc type stuff into ssh -X |
| 14:35 | <rogi> | freenx is really significantly faster than VNC? |
| 14:35 | <Dianoga> | http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 14:36 | * | Dianoga knows nothing of the above, but found it using google |
| 14:36 | <wrkq> | VNC sends you a bitmap. |
| 14:36 | <wrkq> | Remote X sends you only the Clib stuff, and keeps most of the stuff on your (Xserver's) end. |
| 14:37 | <wrkq> | NX also send only the updates, like X, but at the same time keeps enough state at the other end that it can remove most of the extremely delaying roundtrips. |
| 14:37 | <wrkq> | grr, Xlib. |
| 14:37 | <rogi> | ok. sounds interesting. |
| 14:37 | <wrkq> | Remote X would be fast enough, if modern apps werent written and tested only on local machine where XShm is available. |
| 14:38 | <jimcooncat> | I've heard the Ubuntu devs have been using Neatx, but I don't know if there are regular packages for it yet |
| 14:38 | <rawrwx> | does anyone here remote X into their linode? |
| 14:38 | <rawrwx> | and are like actually productive? |
| 14:38 | <jimcooncat> | Neatx is Google's version of nx |
| 14:38 | <Nivex> | no. the bandwidth requirements would kill your quota |
| 14:39 | <rawrwx> | Nivex: to Remove X in a linode? |
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| 14:39 | <rawrwx> | it seems redundant and pointless i know |
| 14:39 | <wrkq> | Btw, if you're bored, try running your average app through one of the X protocol debuggers and see how much it pumps to do just about anything. |
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| 14:40 | <jimcooncat> | VNC over SSH works good enough for me, but I don't expect a lot |
| 14:40 | <wrkq> | I've been running Firefox over a 32k link... it took over ten minutes to start, but afterwards it actually was tolerable. |
| 14:40 | <wrkq> | I switched to VNC. |
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| 14:40 | <wrkq> | Was better. |
| 14:40 | <rawrwx> | wrkq: lmao |
| 14:41 | <wrkq> | But both of these were long ago. |
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| 14:41 | <Nivex> | that xrdp is a neat idea, but the documentation is useless |
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| 14:43 | <rawrwx> | JshWright: mechanical engineering spam-fu ;) |
| 14:44 | <rawrwx> | these guys own 20 patents no one wants let alone understands |
| 14:44 | <jimcooncat> | neatx ppa for ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa |
| 14:44 | <jimcooncat> | they have freenx there as well |
| 14:45 | <rawrwx> | jimcooncat: where do you host your server? home machine? |
| 14:46 | <jimcooncat> | I use linode only for non-gui applications -- I use vnc over ssh between work and home |
| 14:46 | <jimcooncat> | rawrwx: is that what you were asking? |
| 14:46 | <rawrwx> | yes |
| 14:47 | <rawrwx> | it's been awhile since i fiddled with it but that's kinda what i was aiming for as well |
| 14:47 | <jimcooncat> | I'm not sure what people get out of using linodes for gui apps |
| 14:47 | <@caker> | Desktop Anywhere! |
| 14:47 | * | wrkq snickers. |
| 14:47 | <@pparadis> | eh, persistent desktop via freenx works fairly well with a lightweight wm |
| 14:47 | <@pparadis> | so what caker said :) |
| 14:47 | * | caker arranges your desktop icons |
| 14:47 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:47 | <rawrwx> | lol |
| 14:48 | <wrkq> | There are no icons... |
| 14:48 | * | jimcooncat sees what happens when caker's in your gui |
| 14:48 | <wrkq> | You have to realize that what you're rearranging exists only in your mind... |
| 14:48 | * | caker sets your background picture to a screenshot of your desktop |
| 14:49 | <rawrwx> | wrkq: congrats, you just hacked my x,y coordinate plane |
| 14:49 | <_Scott_> | that is actually fun. |
| 14:50 | * | wrkq is counfused. |
| 14:50 | * | wrkq welcomes this familiar feeling. |
| 14:51 | <@Perihelion> | \o/ |
| 14:51 | <linbot> | New news from forums: nginx + php-fpm installation on Linux (Centos 5.3) in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5047>; |
| 14:51 | <jimcooncat> | I like vnc'ing into my own desktop and watching the universe collapse |
| 14:53 | <Guspaz> | NX doesn't use much bandwidth (so it's not really a big deal for your quota), but VNC sucks up all it can get. |
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| 14:56 | <jimcooncat> | whois mshima |
| 14:56 | <jimcooncat> | oops |
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| 15:08 | <MonkeyIsland> | Has the problem got solved completely? |
| 15:08 | <MonkeyIsland> | my linode is not responding again |
| 15:09 | <@caker> | MonkeyIsland: your Linode is OOMing |
| 15:09 | <MonkeyIsland> | I'm sorry? |
| 15:10 | <wrkq> | Out Of Memory. |
| 15:10 | <Guspaz> | Your linode is running out of memory. |
| 15:10 | <Guspaz> | You've misconfigured something. |
| 15:10 | <MonkeyIsland> | why? |
| 15:10 | <@caker> | MonkeyIsland: you've configured your Linode to use more memory than it has, so the Linux kernel starts killing off stuff to try to remain alive |
| 15:10 | <MonkeyIsland> | ah |
| 15:10 | <@caker> | MonkeyIsland: you need to tune your apps to not let that happen |
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| 15:10 | <@caker> | MonkeyIsland: maybe this will help: http://library.linode.com/troubleshooting/memory-networking |
| 15:11 | <MonkeyIsland> | and why it wasn't before the linode problem? |
| 15:12 | <rawrwx> | MonkeyIsland: newark? |
| 15:12 | <MonkeyIsland> | yes |
| 15:12 | <@caker> | completely unrelated |
| 15:13 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:13 | <jess^> | lol |
| 15:14 | <rawrwx> | i know but i think MonkeyIsland is blaming newark |
| 15:14 | <rawrwx> | MonkeyIsland: man vmstat |
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| 15:14 | <jess^> | i don't know what to say the monkeys won't do |
| 15:14 | <rawrwx> | running out of memory seems strange |
| 15:15 | <@caker> | how so? |
| 15:15 | <Guspaz> | It's easy to do if you do something silly like use the default Apache config. |
| 15:15 | <wrkq> | Oh, btw... I have one little annoyance left... is there any way to make an apache2 mpm_worker -> mod_fastcgi -> php-cgi setup not kill all workers when you signal a graceful reload to Apache, and make it wait till all connections complete like a mpm_prefork with mod_php5 did? |
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| 15:15 | <wrkq> | Shall I look into php-fpm taking all risks that homebrew-compiling leads to? |
| 15:16 | <jeremiah_> | Is there any chance I can move from Newark to London? |
| 15:16 | <jeremiah_> | My images that is. =) |
| 15:16 | <rawrwx> | caker: i dunno, how would you reproduce the problem |
| 15:16 | <@caker> | jeremiah_: yes |
| 15:16 | <jeremiah_> | caker: Cool! |
| 15:16 | <rawrwx> | caker: only given a few config files |
| 15:16 | <wrkq> | I believe it's "fill a support ticket and fly"? |
| 15:16 | <rawrwx> | Guspaz: for instance? |
| 15:16 | <@caker> | rawrwx: how to reproduce an OOM? that depends on what services are causing it to go over... |
| 15:16 | * | rawrwx is just curious |
| 15:17 | <Guspaz> | Understand that there will be some downtime while the image copies to the new host, and file a ticket. |
| 15:17 | <rawrwx> | take apache2 as a case study |
| 15:17 | <rawrwx> | just take the LAMP stack |
| 15:17 | <jeremiah_> | caker: How do I go about that? Fill out a support ticket? |
| 15:17 | <Guspaz> | rawrwx: Install PHP in Apache. Get some decent load on your website. Apache spawns a zillion processes and consumes all RAM. OOM. |
| 15:17 | <@caker> | rawrwx: for instance, if you configure Apache to idle at 10 processes, but then have MaxClients set to 150 -- as soon as it needs them it will balloon up - pushing into swap and ultimately bringing the box down |
| 15:18 | <@caker> | rawrwx: and that can be caused by web crawlers, a popular link, whatever |
| 15:18 | <Guspaz> | Doesn't MaxClients default to something stupidly high? |
| 15:18 | <wrkq> | It does. |
| 15:18 | <@caker> | Guspaz: in almost all distros, yes |
| 15:18 | <rawrwx> | what is a _decent_ load for apache on linode? |
| 15:18 | <@caker> | jeremiah_: yes -- shoot us a ticket, please |
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| 15:18 | <@caker> | rawrwx: huh? |
| 15:18 | <jeremiah_> | Will do - thanks! :) |
| 15:19 | <rawrwx> | to cause OOM given a standard apache config |
| 15:19 | <jess^> | JEREMIAH WAS A BULLFROG |
| 15:19 | <rawrwx> | like traffic |
| 15:19 | <Guspaz> | WAS A GOOD FRIEND TO ME |
| 15:19 | <jeremiah_> | jess^: You just dated yourself. :p |
| 15:19 | <@caker> | rawrwx: there's no fixed answer to that. "It Depends" |
| 15:19 | <jeremiah_> | You too Guspaz! |
| 15:19 | <jess^> | jeremiah_: i'm 25. :) |
| 15:19 | <jeremiah_> | sheesh |
| 15:19 | <Guspaz> | I'm 24 |
| 15:19 | <jeremiah_> | Wha? |
| 15:19 | <jess^> | BWAHAHA |
| 15:19 | <Guspaz> | jeremiah_: Stereotyping fail. |
| 15:19 | <jeremiah_> | And that stupid song is _still_ popular? |
| 15:19 | * | jess^ high-fives Guspaz |
| 15:20 | <darkside_> | popular? no. well-known? yes. |
| 15:20 | <jeremiah_> | Well . . . Guspaz was a . . . |
| 15:20 | <@Perihelion> | im 21...had to do a tap dance to that song when I was like 8 |
| 15:20 | <@Perihelion> | :D |
| 15:20 | <jeremiah_> | a . . . |
| 15:20 | <jeremiah_> | oh nevermind |
| 15:20 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:20 | <jeremiah_> | See what you started? |
| 15:20 | <jess^> | lool |
| 15:20 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:20 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 15:20 | <jeremiah_> | This channel is about CAKE! |
| 15:20 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:20 | <jess^> | and BEER |
| 15:20 | <Guspaz> | It's like, people are surprised that people our age like The Beatles. To which I respond, "You grew up with just a few of their songs slowly coming our. We grew up with ALL of their songs available. Why wouldn't we have enjoyed their work even MORE than you?" |
| 15:20 | <WoodWork> | and .. |
| 15:20 | <WoodWork> | !ourmom |
| 15:20 | <Guspaz> | s/our/out/ |
| 15:20 | <maushu> | 90s were awesome. |
| 15:21 | <WoodWork> | !ourmum |
| 15:21 | <jeremiah_> | Guspaz: Well reasoned. |
| 15:21 | <jess^> | !urmom |
| 15:21 | <jeremiah_> | But we were there! |
| 15:21 | <WoodWork> | xD |
| 15:21 | <linbot> | jess^: Your momma's so attractive, she has a contract with the Ford Agency. (813:0/9) [momur] |
| 15:21 | <WoodWork> | ;P |
| 15:21 | <jess^> | HAH! |
| 15:21 | <darkside_> | yes, Guspaz, a good artist then is still a good artist now. |
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| 15:21 | <wrkq> | ...Edsel? |
| 15:21 | <@Perihelion> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIChV0so8sM |
| 15:21 | <@Perihelion> | GO |
| 15:21 | <Guspaz> | I went a bit crazy when Beatles Rockband was announced, and obviously bought it, and tremendously enjoyed it. |
| 15:21 | <jeremiah_> | DO NOT WANT! |
| 15:22 | <Guspaz> | I grew up listening to Queen too, which are also "before my time" ;) |
| 15:22 | <@caker> | varnish or balanced? |
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| 15:23 | <jeremiah_> | Perihelion: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/07/27/do-not-want-6/ |
| 15:23 | <Guspaz> | Say what now? Varnish, the caching proxy versus load balancing? |
| 15:23 | <@Perihelion> | You will take anyway. |
| 15:23 | <jeremiah_> | meh |
| 15:23 | <@caker> | Guspaz: varnish does load balancing |
| 15:23 | <jeremiah_> | memcached FTW! |
| 15:24 | <Guspaz> | Most caching proxies do. |
| 15:24 | <@caker> | yeah, varnish seems to be more than what I'm after |
| 15:25 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:25 | <Guspaz> | I've heard very good things about varnish, but have zero experience with it. |
| 15:25 | <Guspaz> | I'm told it's enormously more performant than squid. |
| 15:25 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:25 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:25 | <Grue> | newbie: does linode block any ports? I want to run text based game, and need 4201 open |
| 15:25 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:26 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:26 | <jess^> | lol |
| 15:26 | <@caker> | Grue: nope -- go for it |
| 15:26 | <jess^> | text based game |
| 15:26 | <Guspaz> | jed: Is "ex roommate" a euphamism for "I"? |
| 15:26 | <jess^> | YOU ARE IN A DUNGEON |
| 15:26 | <Grue> | danke |
| 15:26 | <jess^> | OBVIOUS EXITS ARE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND DENNIS |
| 15:26 | <Guspaz> | IT IS DARK, YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE EATEN BY A GRUE. |
| 15:26 | <Grue> | Thats me ! |
| 15:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:26 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:26 | <@Perihelion> | lmao |
| 15:26 | <jeremiah_> | lool |
| 15:26 | <KingTarquin> | Ha! |
| 15:26 | <wrkq> | :) |
| 15:26 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:26 | * | KingTarquin just belly laughed |
| 15:26 | <@Perihelion> | that was pure win |
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| 15:27 | <jeremiah_> | Is that a real grue? |
| 15:27 | <JoeK> | 1195932 is how many GB? (this is in MB) |
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| 15:27 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:27 | <TheFirst> | JoeK: ummm /1024? |
| 15:27 | <jess^> | !newcalc 1195932 MB in GB |
| 15:27 | <linbot> | jess^: 1 195 932 megabytes = 1 167.90234 gigabytes |
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| 15:27 | <jess^> | JoeK: JFGI :) |
| 15:27 | <JoeK> | 1.167 tb then oo |
| 15:28 | <@irgeek> | s/tb/TB/ |
| 15:28 | <Guspaz> | s/TB/TiB/ |
| 15:28 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:29 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:29 | <jeremiah_> | I thought that was fap |
| 15:30 | <KingTarquin> | ... |
| 15:32 | <@Perihelion> | :/ |
| 15:32 | <JshWright> | :\ |
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| 15:33 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 15:33 | <Nivex> | jeremiah_: no that's a pedobyte |
| 15:34 | <rawb> | does it make a difference if i use the latest 2.6 stable vs latest 2.6 paravirt when using debian 5.0? |
| 15:35 | <JshWright> | if you use the latest paravirt, be sure to run ntp |
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| 15:37 | <WoodWork> | paravirt's suppose to save RAM |
| 15:37 | <@caker> | what? |
| 15:37 | <Guspaz> | Probably speeds everything up. |
| 15:38 | <tjfontaine> | a bit a day |
| 15:38 | <Guspaz> | I didn't mean the clock ;) |
| 15:38 | <WoodWork> | Am I wrong? |
| 15:38 | <@caker> | WoodWork: yes :) |
| 15:38 | * | Peng notes that ntpd uses a nonzero amount of RAM. ;D |
| 15:39 | <WoodWork> | Oh? |
| 15:39 | * | Guspaz notices that many people run ntpd regardless of paravirt |
| 15:39 | <Peng> | "Many" people? I did, but I'm a weirdo. |
| 15:39 | <WoodWork> | caker: What's the idea with paravirt? .. I thought it saved on something? |
| 15:40 | <Peng> | WoodWork: It sucks less. |
| 15:40 | <Guspaz> | I've heard many people say that they use it, myself included. Perhaps because you can type a single command and always have an accurate clock on your machine forever more? |
| 15:40 | <Peng> | Well... It sucks differently! :D |
| 15:40 | <Peng> | WoodWork: Paravirt is in the vanilla kernel. The old Xen patches are not. |
| 15:40 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:40 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:40 | * | caker domUs urmom |
| 15:40 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:40 | <Peng> | Oh, right. Well, i'm not running dom)s. :P |
| 15:41 | <Peng> | Err, dom0s* |
| 15:41 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:41 | <Nivex> | dom0 kun? |
| 15:41 | <Peng> | Heh. |
| 15:41 | <Peng> | I typed "dom)" again when trying to correct myself. :) |
| 15:41 | <Guspaz> | dom0-chan genki desu! |
| 15:41 | <rawb> | so for an idiot who knows nothing about paravirtualization or what it does, should i stick with 2.6 stable or 2.6 paravirt? |
| 15:41 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:42 | <Peng> | Guspaz: But NTP is unnecessary on the non-paravirt kernels, unless you set a sysctl. |
| 15:42 | <Guspaz> | It's not necessary, but it's not useless. I've experienced annoying clock drift on non-paravirt kernels. |
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| 15:42 | <Guspaz> | Installing ntp is a good catchall for "making sure your clocks never drift". |
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| 15:43 | <Peng> | Guspaz: The hosts run ntpd, and without xen.independent_wallclock = 1, the non-pv domUs tie their clock to the host's. |
| 15:43 | <rawb> | jed: debian 5.0 |
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| 15:43 | <Peng> | Guspaz: Sure, occasionally the host's ntpd explodes, but that's just as likely to happen inside your node. |
| 15:43 | <WoodWork> | jed: Centos? |
| 15:43 | <Guspaz> | peng: There is no guarantee that any given VPS host's hardware runs ntp. |
| 15:43 | <Peng> | Guspaz: Linode does. You can ask your other VPS hosts. |
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| 15:44 | <Peng> | Are there really hosts that don't run ntpd or something equivalent? (Other than DreamHost.) |
| 15:44 | <WoodWork> | 5.4 that is. |
| 15:44 | <Guspaz> | Yes. |
| 15:45 | <Peng> | Why? |
| 15:45 | <randallman> | in bold |
| 15:45 | <randallman> | WHY! |
| 15:45 | <randallman> | :p |
| 15:45 | <Peng> | Are...why? Why would someone not synchronize their time? |
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| 15:45 | <avar> | maybe they have accurate hardware clocks? |
| 15:45 | <randallman> | Time is a metaphysical concept? :p |
| 15:46 | <Guspaz> | Why would someone not run ntp on their VPS node? |
| 15:46 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 15:46 | <Guspaz> | Because they don't care. |
| 15:46 | <jed> | <redacted> |
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| 15:46 | <WoodWork> | Thanks. |
| 15:46 | <WoodWork> | ;] |
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| 15:46 | <randallman> | My perception of time is irrelevant? :P |
| 15:46 | <WoodWork> | What would happen if I did change? |
| 15:46 | <Nivex> | everybody build one of these: http://time.qnan.org/ |
| 15:46 | <Nivex> | :) |
| 15:46 | <Peng> | Even if you don't care about time, you should install NTP just in case you change your mind. |
| 15:47 | <randallman> | :p |
| 15:47 | <randallman> | I met David Mills... |
| 15:47 | <randallman> | he was a prof. at Udel |
| 15:47 | <randallman> | s/was/is |
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| 15:47 | <randallman> | I suppose he originally wrote NTPD? |
| 15:47 | <Nivex> | one of the better stratum 1's I sync to has been down for a week :( |
| 15:47 | <Guspaz> | I'd point out that my previous VPS host doesn't run ntp on their hosts (http://teknews.net/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain.html#Other), but munin is messed up on that box and I've no ide awhy. |
| 15:48 | <Peng> | randallman: More or less, yes. |
| 15:48 | <Guspaz> | I really should migrate that stuff to my linode and stop paying for two VPSes. |
| 15:48 | <randallman> | Dude, 1 hour and 12 minutes until I drink tequila! |
| 15:48 | <randallman> | :P |
| 15:48 | <Peng> | Paying for two VPSes is fine; it's paying for > 0 sucky VPSes that isn't. :D |
| 15:48 | <Karrde> | why does ":%s/.*\)//g" give me "Unmatched \)" in vim? |
| 15:48 | <randallman> | because in VIM, \) means you'd need a \( to create \1 |
| 15:48 | <Karrde> | ... |
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| 15:48 | <jimcooncat> | randallman: you're in my timezone -- I'll be over |
| 15:48 | <Peng> | Nivex: Just curious, which one? |
| 15:48 | <Karrde> | I don't have to escape )s in vim? |
| 15:49 | <Karrde> | ok then |
| 15:49 | <randallman> | Not for normal searching |
| 15:49 | <Karrde> | thanks |
| 15:49 | <randallman> | unless you want to use it as a positional |
| 15:49 | <Peng> | Nivex: Also just curious, what do you mean by "better"? :D |
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| 15:50 | <Guspaz> | Yes, one is sucky, hence why I migrated off it to Linode. Except I stopped migrating when the important stuff was moved and never finished the rest :P |
| 15:50 | <Guspaz> | One advantage: the bandwidth is stupidly cheap. $23 a month and I can push 10mbit+ unmetered. |
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| 15:50 | <Guspaz> | Of course, it was horribly unreliable and went down for a few weeks once. |
| 15:51 | <@caker> | just like ... |
| 15:51 | <Nivex> | Peng: netclock.ncren.net. I finally found the announcement of change: https://www.mcnc.org/node/296 |
| 15:51 | <Nivex> | Peng: GPS with low jitter |
| 15:51 | <Peng> | Heh. I still have a bunch of crap on my old shared host. Mostly because I don't want to install PHP on my node, and want to make sure the stuff I do move over works well. |
| 15:51 | <Peng> | And because I don't care. >.> |
| 15:51 | <_Scott_> | I never realized how accurate GPS was.. |
| 15:51 | <Guspaz> | caker: The host decided to move all harware to another DC in a different city. Only, he never told us customers he was planning this. And didn't tell us when things went wrong. And when he eventually let us know what was going on, communication was incredibly sparse. |
| 15:52 | <Guspaz> | It was super frustrating. |
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| 15:52 | <Guspaz> | When we moved to Linode, we were working under the assumption that our VPS was toast. |
| 15:52 | <_Scott_> | Guspaz: I use one host that has 1 bandwidth supplier and no redundant power or networking. It goes down atleast once a day for an hour. |
| 15:52 | <mwalling> | _Scott_: its kind of a requirement of how gps works |
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| 15:53 | <Guspaz> | If GPS wasn't stupidly accurate, it couldn't tell you where you were. |
| 15:53 | <Peng> | Nivex: Oh, neat. I wonder why they didn't leave the old IP up? |
| 15:53 | <Guspaz> | All GPS satellites do, IIRC, is broadcast what time they think it is, and GPS hardware uses the difference in time as heard from various satellites to calculate how far away they are, and hence your position. |
| 15:54 | <_Scott_> | I didn't think it was so accurate it would pinpoint where in my house I was. |
| 15:54 | <Nivex> | Peng: looks like they switched from GPS to CDMA |
| 15:54 | <Smark> | Anyone have a good resource for just computing videos in general? Not necessarily how-to's but like informational videos? Some of the Google I/O Keynote videos were good, as was one I just watched on x86 CPU architecture. Anyone have a favorite site (other than YouTube)? |
| 15:54 | <Peng> | Fun article about GPS: http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html |
| 15:55 | <Peng> | _Scott_: Unless you have a really large mansion, your average GPS receiver won't be able to do that. |
| 15:55 | <_Scott_> | well blackberry managed to. |
| 15:56 | <Peng> | _Scott_: Now, a military receiver, or maybe an expensive civilian one... |
| 15:56 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:56 | <_Scott_> | Wheres My Phone Pro is the app I was testing lol |
| 15:56 | <Peng> | _Scott_: Probably using Assisted GPS. |
| 15:56 | <_Scott_> | It's pretty nice though. |
| 15:56 | <_Scott_> | I can email my blackberry if I loose it and it will reply with it's location. |
| 15:57 | <Peng> | Cool. |
| 15:57 | <_Scott_> | i loose things a lot.. |
| 15:57 | <_Scott_> | lose* |
| 15:58 | <Peng> | _Scott_: Duct tape. |
| 15:58 | <_Scott_> | no thank you xD |
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| 15:59 | <Peng> | Wait, is A-GPS more accurate, or does it just start working more quickly? |
| 16:00 | <Peng> | (And be more resilient in the face of a bad GPS signal.) |
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| 16:00 | <reillyeon> | Peng: A-GPS is only faster. |
| 16:01 | <reillyeon> | You don't have to wait for the GPS tables to download from the satellites (which transmit very slowly). |
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| 16:03 | <Guspaz> | Hrrm, my bank just called to tell me that I don't have to pay for my account anymore. |
| 16:03 | <HalJordan> | hmmm |
| 16:03 | <HalJordan> | all my connections to my linode in jersey blipped... |
| 16:03 | <HalJordan> | doesn't seem the same as this morning though |
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| 16:04 | <newarkmonkey> | here come the newark monkeys!! RUNNNNN!! |
| 16:05 | <randallman> | 10 01|15 16:03 hardattack: Slipknot-Liberate |
| 16:05 | <randallman> | ^^^ this |
| 16:05 | <Peng> | HalJordan: Just now, or earlier? |
| 16:05 | <randallman> | :p |
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| 16:05 | <HalJordan> | like 1-2 min ago |
| 16:05 | * | randallman angry<randallman> |
| 16:05 | <HalJordan> | i lost all my irc connections |
| 16:05 | <HalJordan> | but from the place i work..... |
| 16:05 | <MonkeyIsland> | is it working now? |
| 16:05 | * | _Scott_ tests the linode manager in blackberry browser. |
| 16:05 | <HalJordan> | which is on this map: http://www.internethealthreport.com/ everything came up right away |
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| 16:08 | <cmjb> | HalJordan, i can access newark ok, but for some reason linodes in other locations like dfw cannot reach the newark datacenter |
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| 16:08 | <HalJordan> | cmjb, seems like something is getting blackholed |
| 16:08 | <HalJordan> | all i have is newark.... |
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| 16:08 | <compwhizii> | php-cgi keeps dieing, any ideas of how to keep it running |
| 16:08 | <HalJordan> | i don't have anything in other DCs |
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| 16:08 | <Peng> | Dallas -> newark1 WFM. |
| 16:08 | <MonkeyIsland> | my linode is not working either. can't connect to ssh |
| 16:09 | <randallman> | Im logged into my NWK linode right now |
| 16:09 | <randallman> | heh |
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| 16:09 | <randallman> | From this very window! |
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| 16:09 | <MonkeyIsland> | pinging gives me timed out |
| 16:09 | <Peng> | The Planet -> AboveNet -> NAC, 38.5 ms. |
| 16:09 | <_Scott_> | im connected to newark with no issues |
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| 16:09 | <Peng> | Do you guys know there was an earlier issue |
| 16:09 | <Peng> | ? |
| 16:09 | <randallman> | I did get disco'd |
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| 16:09 | <Peng> | http://status.linode.com/. |
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| 16:09 | <Peng> | Erk. |
| 16:09 | <randallman> | I thought that was on my end |
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| 16:09 | <cmjb> | i am connected to Newark but some routes between dcs seem to be broken... |
| 16:09 | <randallman> | but I reckon not now |
| 16:09 | <HalJordan> | k i just hit my newark box from a site we have in Singapore..... |
| 16:09 | <HalJordan> | worked fine |
| 16:09 | <_Scott_> | and you're correct |
| 16:10 | <_Scott_> | london and newark cant communicate |
| 16:10 | <cmjb> | newark -> london, newark -> dallas cannot communicate |
| 16:10 | <cmjb> | newark -> atlanta is ok |
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| 16:10 | <Peng> | !mtr-newark ipv4.cheezum.mattnordhoff.com |
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| 16:10 | <linbot> | Peng: [mtr] ipv4.cheezum.mattnordhoff.com: 18 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 38.4ms |
| 16:11 | <cmjb> | newark -> fremont also is ok |
| 16:11 | <JshWright> | !mtr-newark london1.linode.com |
| 16:11 | <linbot> | JshWright: [mtr] london1.linode.com: 10 hops, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms, ???: 100.0%/0.0ms |
| 16:11 | <cmjb> | :) |
| 16:11 | <Peng> | Cool. |
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| 16:11 | <Peng> | London -> Newark doesn't work either. |
| 16:11 | <cmjb> | another box I have in a different dc in london is working fine from newark |
| 16:11 | <_Scott_> | would it be pointless to submit a ticket? |
| 16:11 | <cmjb> | upstream routing issue? |
| 16:12 | <JshWright> | !mtr-london newark1.linode.com |
| 16:12 | <linbot> | JshWright: [mtr] newark1.linode.com: 9 hops, vlan805.esd1.mmu.nac.net: 20.0%/236.9ms, newark1.linode.com: 40.0%/81.1ms |
| 16:12 | <Peng> | Never mind, it does. At least now. |
| 16:12 | <Peng> | Oh. |
| 16:15 | <cmjb> | seems to be ok now |
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| 16:17 | <_Scott_> | no its still screwed up between london and newark |
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| 16:19 | <_Scott_> | unless it got firewalled. |
| 16:20 | <_Scott_> | some days I love CSF |
| 16:20 | <_Scott_> | others I hate it |
| 16:21 | <MonkeyIsland> | I think my linode is running out of memory all the time. makes me restart it everytime. after 2-3 min it run out again |
| 16:21 | <JshWright> | MonkeyIsland: what services are you running? |
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| 16:22 | <Element> | Are we sure that the route issue has been resolved in Newark? I'm still getting no "route to host" |
| 16:22 | <MonkeyIsland> | linode 360, ubuntu hardy |
| 16:22 | <MonkeyIsland> | if i got you right. I'm runnig nginx |
| 16:22 | <Guspaz> | !ping fixppp.org |
| 16:22 | <linbot> | pong |
| 16:22 | <Guspaz> | hrrm |
| 16:23 | <Guspaz> | !mtr-london fixppp.org |
| 16:23 | <linbot> | Guspaz: [mtr] fixppp.org: 11 hops, te3-1-border76-01.lon2.telec: 20.0%/108.6ms, 85.90.238.58: 20.0%/0.9ms |
| 16:24 | <MonkeyIsland> | JshWright: any idea? |
| 16:24 | <JshWright> | not without some more information |
| 16:24 | <JshWright> | have you tried watching top to see what's eating the memory? |
| 16:24 | <MonkeyIsland> | yes |
| 16:25 | <MonkeyIsland> | in fact my ssh has now hung on top. can't get out. |
| 16:25 | <JshWright> | so, what was consuming all the memory? |
| 16:25 | <jeremiah_> | EMEMORYCONSUMPTIONMODULE |
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| 16:26 | <MonkeyIsland> | php-cgi is listed in the command column |
| 16:26 | <jeremiah_> | ouch. |
| 16:27 | <JshWright> | is that what's using all your memory? |
| 16:27 | <MonkeyIsland> | %mem column you mean? |
| 16:27 | <JshWright> | yes |
| 16:27 | <MonkeyIsland> | (sorry I'm new to this) |
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| 16:28 | <MonkeyIsland> | my %mem column is 0.7 max |
| 16:28 | <JshWright> | huh? |
| 16:28 | <MonkeyIsland> | 0.6, 0.3 , 0.1 |
| 16:28 | <JshWright> | are you sorting by memory? |
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| 16:28 | <JshWright> | That looks like your load average, not your memory |
| 16:28 | <MonkeyIsland> | my cup in many rows is 77 75 76 |
| 16:28 | <MonkeyIsland> | cpu* |
| 16:29 | <Guspaz> | Run "top" and press "M" (capital M). That will sort by memory usage. |
| 16:29 | <Guspaz> | If you want, take a "screenshot" and pastebin it. |
| 16:29 | <_Scott_> | Does anyone use webmin here? |
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| 16:30 | <JshWright> | don't worry about the CPU time, if you're running out of memory, then stuff is getting swapped out and the CPU is spending all its time waiting for disk IO (which is "busy" time) |
| 16:30 | <Guspaz> | IOWAIT! |
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| 16:30 | <MonkeyIsland> | what should I do now? |
| 16:31 | <@irgeek> | pastebin the output of "vmstat 3 10" |
| 16:31 | <jeremiah_> | run top, sort with 'M' |
| 16:31 | <JshWright> | MonkeyIsland: we still have no idea what's using the memory |
| 16:31 | <MonkeyIsland> | restarted, pressed M. now I"m seeing it by mem |
| 16:31 | <JshWright> | and the winner is....? |
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| 16:32 | <MonkeyIsland> | I have mysql comming up, gettings 7.1 mem |
| 16:32 | <jeremiah_> | I rest my case. |
| 16:32 | <@irgeek> | skip-innodb |
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| 16:32 | <MonkeyIsland> | my question is, why I hadn't this problem before? |
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| 16:32 | <JshWright> | perhaps it's trying to repair a crashed table |
| 16:33 | <MonkeyIsland> | ok, I can repair all the tables now |
| 16:33 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: Are you logging mysql? |
| 16:33 | <jeremiah_> | Sometimes that can help identify slow queries. |
| 16:33 | <MonkeyIsland> | haven't tried. How do I do that? |
| 16:33 | <JshWright> | the OOM you experienced earlier could have blown something up, which is now trying to repair itself (which can be a memory intensive process) |
| 16:34 | <getsmart> | mhhh |
| 16:34 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: I would read up on it since it is a trade off between performance and logging. |
| 16:34 | <getsmart> | any new about ssh dos things? |
| 16:34 | <jeremiah_> | You may not want to log all the time. |
| 16:34 | <MonkeyIsland> | after neward got down, I rebooted. just if you must know |
| 16:34 | <_Scott_> | My linode is OOMing too =/ |
| 16:34 | <_Scott_> | i dont know why =/ |
| 16:34 | <getsmart> | I have disabled ssh public access for that reason |
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| 16:35 | <JshWright> | you had ssh public access enabled? |
| 16:35 | <JshWright> | (I'm not even sure what you mean by "public access") |
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| 16:36 | <MonkeyIsland> | oh so scott is experiencing the same? |
| 16:36 | <getsmart> | well, key auth, but without specific tools antidos |
| 16:36 | <getsmart> | no root access |
| 16:36 | <JshWright> | MonkeyIsland: it's certainly unrelated |
| 16:36 | <_Scott_> | MonkeyIsland what node are you on? |
| 16:36 | <_Scott_> | I'm just curious |
| 16:36 | <MonkeyIsland> | 360 |
| 16:36 | <getsmart> | just getting cpu used |
| 16:36 | <_Scott_> | node.. not plan :P |
| 16:36 | <jeremiah_> | My linode in Newark has tons of memory, I'm not OOMing. |
| 16:36 | <getsmart> | no big deal, but hosted services performance was not so much good then |
| 16:36 | <jeremiah_> | And I have a little one |
| 16:37 | <getsmart> | ooming what is? |
| 16:37 | <MonkeyIsland> | node like? |
| 16:37 | <jeremiah_> | Out Of Memory |
| 16:37 | <JshWright> | _Scott_: I think you mean "host" |
| 16:37 | <_Scott_> | node/host same thing |
| 16:37 | <mwalling> | no... |
| 16:37 | <jeremiah_> | I think you mean toast |
| 16:37 | <MonkeyIsland> | is it normal php-fastcgi gets around 5 mem? |
| 16:38 | <_Scott_> | i dun wanna reboot it =/ |
| 16:38 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: hard to say - it depends on what it is doing. |
| 16:38 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: You should probably do some benchmarks yourself, |
| 16:38 | <Element> | so.. I'm thinking of wiping my 'disk' should I use 32bit or 64bit ? |
| 16:38 | <jeremiah_> | Test with a fresh reboot, see what the memory consumption is |
| 16:39 | <Guspaz> | 5% of RAM on a 360 is 18MB, PHP's default max RAM per script is 16MB, so 18MB makes sense with overhead. |
| 16:39 | <jeremiah_> | Element: Are you going to run 64 bit apps only? |
| 16:39 | <Element> | I don't really *need* to but I was wondering if there was a performance increase or not? |
| 16:40 | <MonkeyIsland> | my linode is getting slow again to hung -.- |
| 16:40 | <jeremiah_> | If everything you are going to run is 64 bit then I bet you will see a performance gain. |
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| 16:40 | <jeremiah_> | Like running 64 bit debian |
| 16:40 | <Guspaz> | Not really. |
| 16:40 | <officer> | Hey folks |
| 16:40 | <_Scott_> | mysqld is probably being an idiot again :/ |
| 16:41 | <Guspaz> | 64-bit mode is almost never worth it unless you have multiple gigs of RAM. |
| 16:41 | <Guspaz> | Usually it just ends up making everything consume more RAM without really providing any other benefit. |
| 16:41 | <jeremiah_> | Well, yeah. There is no point other wise. |
| 16:41 | <getsmart> | mhh, like no more virtual memory? fork fails? |
| 16:41 | <jeremiah_> | I mean, the point is to have > 4 Gigs |
| 16:41 | <officer> | I'm going to be setting up a couple photo-upload blogs and was wondering if starting out with a VPS is a bit overkill? |
| 16:42 | <getsmart> | usually cen be a process that allocates memory dynamically, and not release (free syscall) it |
| 16:42 | <getsmart> | memory hog |
| 16:42 | <jeremiah_> | Honestly officer I just had one beer two hours ago. |
| 16:42 | <officer> | I don't expect traffic to be huge initially and I'm not the most knowledgeable about sysadmin stuff. |
| 16:42 | <officer> | hah jeremiah |
| 16:42 | <getsmart> | jeremiah_, so plenty of memory. |
| 16:42 | <laser`> | Guspaz: Even in those cases there are PAE kernels to provide more than 4GB RAM on 32-bit systems |
| 16:42 | <getsmart> | there is a ps flag that gives you memory size of a process |
| 16:43 | <getsmart> | so, *may be* you can identify the hog, and kill it |
| 16:43 | <jeremiah_> | oh, that is cool |
| 16:43 | * | jeremiah_ does a 'man ps' |
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| 16:43 | <getsmart> | let me see, may be I remember such a flag |
| 16:43 | <Guspaz> | laser`: PAE is rarely usable. |
| 16:43 | <jeremiah_> | v display virtual memory format |
| 16:43 | <jeremiah_> | Is that it perchance? |
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| 16:44 | <Guspaz> | laser`: Virtually all 32-bit systems and even many 64-bit systems from around the transition period shipped with memory controllers that couldn't address more than 32-bit of RAM regardless of PAE/CPU. |
| 16:44 | <jeremiah_> | Looks like it is |
| 16:44 | <Guspaz> | My laptop, for example, a Core 2 Duo. I run a 64-bit OS on it. That OS can see 3.3GB of RAM out of 4. |
| 16:44 | <jeremiah_> | officer: A VPS _may_ be overkill, but it gives you room to grow and the price is right. :) |
| 16:44 | <laser`> | Oh heh, that's awesome :P |
| 16:45 | <getsmart> | may be find it: ps -eal| less |
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| 16:45 | <laser`> | PAE's pretty usable on modern systems though, surely? |
| 16:45 | <Guspaz> | I mean desktop-oriented systems. Server chipsets probably shipped with less crappy memory controllers. |
| 16:45 | <getsmart> | just look for 'SZ' field jeremiah_ |
| 16:45 | <Guspaz> | Well, I don't know. I've never tried PAE because I have 12GB of RAM on my desktop and just run a 64-bit OS. |
| 16:45 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 16:45 | <jeremiah_> | getsmart: okay |
| 16:45 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 16:46 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 16:46 | <getsmart> | it should be something better |
| 16:46 | <laser`> | I only run a 64-bit OS because I use Windows and MS doesn't deem their consumer OSs fit to ship the Windows PAE kernel with |
| 16:46 | <Guspaz> | pparadis... spokesman? What's the world coming to. |
| 16:46 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 16:46 | <jed> | <redacted> |
| 16:46 | <getsmart> | another idea: top, %MEM |
| 16:47 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: how to find out what is consuming my mem? |
| 16:47 | <getsmart> | now I remind: if get samples of process SIZE ps field, let say, every 5 minutes, you can follow the memory trend |
| 16:47 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: Did you try 'top' and then press 'M'? |
| 16:48 | <jeremiah_> | That will sort the processes by memory usage |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | so, if a process has a augment trend SZ bigger in the more recent samples |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | that's the hog |
| 16:48 | <jeremiah_> | So the one that uses the most will be at the top |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | yeah, but on top you have just a snapshot |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | you need the trend, say, in 20/30 minutes |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | so like 4/7 samples |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | at least |
| 16:48 | <getsmart> | or more |
| 16:49 | <getsmart> | it depends |
| 16:49 | <getsmart> | hope make it clear |
| 16:49 | <jeremiah_> | Well, using 'top' and 'M' is a good start. |
| 16:49 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: always php-fastcgi with 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, and mysql around 7.1 |
| 16:49 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: That is not that bad. |
| 16:50 | <jeremiah_> | What are your load averages? |
| 16:50 | <MonkeyIsland> | which one is load? |
| 16:50 | <getsmart> | sz SZ size in physical pages of the core image of the process. This includes text, data, and stack space. Device mappings are currently excluded |
| 16:50 | * | pparadis sez "ummmm... i said i was an "Information Systems Specialist" |
| 16:50 | <getsmart> | man says that, that's the field |
| 16:51 | <jeremiah_> | getsmart: Yeah, but ps -e sz is a bit cryptic |
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| 16:51 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: You can find that with 'uptime' |
| 16:51 | <getsmart> | jeremiah_, you need ps -el l is for long format |
| 16:51 | <jeremiah_> | (the last three numbers) |
| 16:51 | <getsmart> | no l, no SZ |
| 16:51 | <MonkeyIsland> | 21:51:30 up 21 min, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.03, 0.02 |
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| 16:51 | <jeremiah_> | getsmart: thanks, I'll try that |
| 16:51 | <getsmart> | you welcome |
| 16:51 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: Yeah, not too bad at all |
| 16:52 | <Guspaz> | Quitting time! Ciao. |
| 16:52 | <jeremiah_> | Why do you think you have a problem? |
| 16:52 | <MonkeyIsland> | but site is working fine now |
| 16:52 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: That is good news. :) |
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| 16:52 | <MonkeyIsland> | site stopped working 4 times after the newark issue got solved. |
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| 16:53 | <mwalling> | that was probably coincidence |
| 16:53 | <MonkeyIsland> | I didn't change anything and now it is working. wanna know why it became like that after newark issue were solved |
| 16:53 | <mwalling> | you also issued a reboot, which probably didnt help matters |
| 16:53 | <brandl> | hi all, going to sign up for a linode account and was wondering if there were any promo codes the company is sharing right now? |
| 16:53 | <mwalling> | brandl: nope |
| 16:53 | <getsmart> | better way : a shel script like : ps el > /tmp/results; sleep 3600*5; |
| 16:54 | <@tasaro> | brandl: just the prepayment discounts which do not require a code |
| 16:54 | <brandl> | mwalling okay thanks |
| 16:54 | <getsmart> | you can write much good then this, just the idea |
| 16:54 | <MonkeyIsland> | brandl: getting linode is a promote itself ;) |
| 16:54 | <brandl> | haha this is true monkeyisland |
| 16:54 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 16:54 | <jeremiah_> | brandl: I'm not certain, but try 'cake' just for the hell of it. |
| 16:54 | <getsmart> | mhhh Caelum |
| 16:54 | <jeremiah_> | see |
| 16:54 | <getsmart> | ops :( |
| 16:54 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 16:54 | <getsmart> | mhh cake |
| 16:54 | <getsmart> | :) |
| 16:54 | <getsmart> | rusty |
| 16:54 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 16:54 | <jeremiah_> | Did someone say cake? |
| 16:55 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: thanks for taking time for my problem. |
| 16:55 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: Sure thing - you are smart to try to get to the bottom of it. |
| 16:55 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: You will learn a lot and improve the performance of your server. |
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| 16:56 | <getsmart> | no, just piece of cake |
| 16:56 | <getsmart> | ops |
| 16:56 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: yea I'm hoping too. |
| 16:56 | * | getsmart & |
| 16:58 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: what do you set for php-fastcgi chilren and max requests? |
| 16:58 | * | _Scott_ sighs and issues a reboot. |
| 16:59 | <jeremiah_> | MonkeyIsland: I don't use php - I use perl. =) |
| 16:59 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: darn xDDDD |
| 16:59 | <jeremiah_> | I also use nginx and fastcgi |
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| 16:59 | <jeremiah_> | But I use apache2 too |
| 16:59 | <_Scott_> | oh great |
| 16:59 | <MonkeyIsland> | I'm using nginx |
| 16:59 | <_Scott_> | the damn thing starts responding after i issue reboot |
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| 17:04 | <adalric> | hey all, wanting to put my database on a separate linode, do i need to keep that server at the same datacenter to use the private ips? |
| 17:04 | <_Scott_> | Yep |
| 17:04 | <adalric> | cool thanks _Scott_ |
| 17:05 | <adalric> | and the other question, is it worth it to have an additional IP address for the production and database servers? |
| 17:06 | <_Scott_> | Do you need more than 1 IP? |
| 17:06 | <jeremiah_> | It is kinda good if you are going to pass a lot of traffic between nodes |
| 17:06 | <jeremiah_> | Because it goes on the private network and so is faster and doesn't count against your quota |
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| 17:07 | <adalric> | yeah jeremiah_ lots of static files are going to be passed between the database and the front-end |
| 17:07 | <adalric> | lots of uploads as well |
| 17:07 | <jeremiah_> | adalric: Do you have two nodes on linode? |
| 17:07 | <jeremiah_> | That you control? |
| 17:07 | <adalric> | Yeah at the same datacenter |
| 17:07 | <jeremiah_> | Because if you do, then the two private IPs are the way to go |
| 17:07 | <jeremiah_> | Yeah, do it. |
| 17:07 | <adalric> | great |
| 17:08 | <jeremiah_> | One of the cool features of Linode I think is the private ip |
| 17:08 | <adalric> | yeah that was one reason i chose them |
| 17:08 | <jeremiah_> | Me too. :) |
| 17:09 | <adalric> | okay so i don't need to worry about the extra public IP address |
| 17:10 | <jeremiah_> | adalric: I really doubt it, it will be some thing like 192.168.3.xxx |
| 17:10 | <jeremiah_> | That is a local adress space |
| 17:10 | <adalric> | k |
| 17:10 | <jeremiah_> | So I can almost guarantee that no one wil be able to see that from the outside |
| 17:10 | <adalric> | :) |
| 17:10 | <jeremiah_> | :) |
| 17:11 | <jeremiah_> | I think they have some kind of article on this in their library |
| 17:11 | <adalric> | yeah just saw it |
| 17:11 | <jeremiah_> | http://library.linode.com/networking/configuring-static-ip-interfaces |
| 17:11 | <jeremiah_> | ah, okay |
| 17:11 | <adalric> | looks like i'll need to go the static route |
| 17:12 | <jeremiah_> | yeah, I imagine |
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| 17:12 | <MonkeyIsland> | jeremiah_: after setting skip-innodb, how do I restart mysql for new settings to take effect? or should I restart nginx instead? |
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| 17:14 | <KingTarquin> | On library.linode.com, when you go to "Server Monitoring", are you supposed to get a HTTPd directory listing? |
| 17:14 | <jeremiah_> | nope - you'll most likely need to re-start mysql |
| 17:14 | <jeremiah_> | with the mysqld-safe command or whatever it is exactly |
| 17:15 | <jeremiah_> | KingTarquin: Dunno - but I get that too. |
| 17:15 | <MonkeyIsland> | yea got it, its just like nginx |
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| 17:18 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:18 | <MonkeyIsland> | lol I got stuck in ps. I ran this: |
| 17:18 | <MonkeyIsland> | ps -eo pmem,pcpu,rss,vsize,args | sort -k 1 -r | less |
| 17:20 | <MonkeyIsland> | how can I get out? XD |
| 17:21 | <jeremiah_> | Ctrl-C |
| 17:21 | <jeremiah_> | Ctrl-D |
| 17:21 | <jeremiah_> | Hammer screen with head repeatedly. |
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| 17:22 | <MonkeyIsland> | none of them is working :D |
| 17:23 | <MonkeyIsland> | if you dare try that command, and then try to get out XDD |
| 17:23 | <_Scott_> | just restart your session then? |
| 17:24 | <MonkeyIsland> | meh? no. that's the last thing I wanna do |
| 17:25 | <jeremiah_> | There is an ajax console you can use |
| 17:25 | <Peng> | Start another session and kill the processes? |
| 17:25 | <jeremiah_> | On the linode page |
| 17:26 | <Peng> | Or, if you're using screen, just create a new window.. |
| 17:26 | <MonkeyIsland> | I'll go for new session and kill the previous one xD |
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| 17:57 | <dKingston> | sorressean: ping |
| 17:57 | <sorressean> | dKingston: sup? |
| 17:57 | <dKingston> | you know uh C++ i think right? |
| 17:57 | <sorressean> | um, yeah? |
| 17:58 | <dKingston> | what do you think about C++0x? |
| 17:58 | <sorressean> | I don't like it much from what I've heard/seen of it, but that doesn't mean much. |
| 17:58 | <dKingston> | neither do i |
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| 18:04 | <njs> | trying to download something with rtorrent, my linode keeps locking up hard ("swapper: page allocation failure. order:0, mode:0x20"). There's plenty of memory (and swap) available. |
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| 18:06 | <njs> | anyone ever seen anything like that? I guess the only solution would be to upgrade my kernel, but I'm already on the latest UML kernel. Should I be switching to Xen...? |
| 18:06 | <laser`> | Xen's the preferred option nowadays tbh |
| 18:06 | <Peng> | Oh, I blew up my UML node with rTorrent once. 363 days of uptime, too! I decided to switch to Xen after that. |
| 18:06 | <Peng> | Haven't tried rTorrent again, though. |
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| 18:06 | <_Scott_> | I couldnt' get rTorrent to work on my seed box |
| 18:07 | <_Scott_> | ended up just using transmission-daemon |
| 18:07 | <Peng> | njs: Linodes have really faster Internet connections. Apparently rTorrent can get dangerous. |
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| 18:07 | <Peng> | Err, fast* |
| 18:07 | * | Peng shrugs |
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| 18:08 | <njs> | laser`: is it? last time I looked it was still semi-experimental, but obviously I haven't followed closely since things have Just Been Working :-) |
| 18:09 | <laser`> | Well they no longer put customers on UML :) |
| 18:09 | <laser`> | Everyone's on Xen and I don't think you have a choice aboutit anymore :P |
| 18:09 | <njs> | heh |
| 18:09 | <Peng> | The Xen beta ended in 2008-04 or 05. |
| 18:09 | <njs> | guess I'll file a ticket for migration, then |
| 18:09 | <Peng> | Well, you can stay on UMl if you *want* to, but... |
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| 18:10 | <Peng> | njs: What distro do you use? |
| 18:10 | <njs> | ubuntu, ATM |
| 18:10 | <Peng> | njs: Which version? |
| 18:10 | <njs> | 9.04 |
| 18:10 | <WoodWork> | You'll have a lot, lot better performance on xen, and the staff do all the work for you. Nothing is required from you - apart from a support ticket. |
| 18:11 | <Peng> | njs: 9.10's udev requires a newer kernel than you can get on UML, fyi. |
| 18:11 | <WoodWork> | Guess.. around 10 - 15 times better IO. |
| 18:12 | <njs> | filed! |
| 18:12 | <WoodWork> | ;] |
| 18:12 | <Peng> | More recent hosts have better hardware, too. |
| 18:12 | <WoodWork> | You'll need to change the kernels AFAIK, and boot back up - and you're good to go. |
| 18:13 | <Peng> | And you get access to 4 CPU cores on Xen. |
| 18:13 | <Peng> | And you get access to modern kernels, if you want. |
| 18:13 | <WoodWork> | Do you get graphs on UML? |
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| 18:15 | <WoodWork> | njs: Just out of curiousity, where is your current Linode? |
| 18:15 | <njs> | dallas |
| 18:15 | <WoodWork> | Ahh. ;) |
| 18:15 | <WoodWork> | I was going to say; if fremont you may have to wait a little longer than usual. |
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| 18:16 | <njs> | and yeah, I have graphs... or at least, some graphs, I suppose xen might give even more, I don't know :-) |
| 18:17 | <@pparadis> | njs: you're set |
| 18:17 | * | WoodWork throws bone to pparadis. |
| 18:17 | <WoodWork> | xD |
| 18:17 | <njs> | pparadis: whoa, awesome, thanks! |
| 18:18 | <Peng> | njs: Just curious, what host were you on? |
| 18:18 | <Peng> | s/what/which/ |
| 18:18 | <Peng> | UML and Xen have the same graphs. |
| 18:18 | <njs> | uh... dallas31, looks like |
| 18:18 | <Peng> | Well, the I/O graph uses a different metric, but still. |
| 18:19 | <Peng> | njs: Wow, you've been here a long time! |
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| 18:19 | <@pparadis> | njs: np :) |
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| 18:20 | <njs> | eh, 2 years maybe? definitely people around who have been here longer |
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| 18:21 | <Peng> | 2 years sounds about right. Maybe 2 years, 3-6 months or so? |
| 18:21 | <Peng> | I was put on dallas62 in 2008-04, so... |
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| 18:23 | <njs> | hmm, I have an ubuntu 7.10 recovery image here, so I guess yeah, sometime before 2008-04 :-) |
| 18:23 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Disconnected while upgrading... in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5045>; |
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| 18:24 | <mikegrb> | mwalling: I'm glad pleia2 is moving |
| 18:24 | <mwalling> | eh? |
| 18:24 | <mwalling> | oh, so you have an excuse to go to .ca.us? |
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| 18:32 | <mikegrb> | mwalling: nah, I get her matress/boxsprings for free |
| 18:32 | <mikegrb> | bigger/newer/nicer than ours |
| 18:32 | <mikegrb> | she spent like 50k on it |
| 18:32 | <mwalling> | 50k on a matress? |
| 18:33 | <mikegrb> | made by hoof by pygmi goats in antarctica or something |
| 18:33 | * | ericoc didn't know mikegrb was a real person |
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| 18:34 | <@psandin> | ericoc: he's not, it's just a trick |
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| 18:35 | <ericoc> | he just has random intelligent conversation using AI on occasion to trick people like me? |
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| 18:35 | <@psandin> | yeah, pretty much |
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| 18:37 | <mikegrb> | and how do you feel about yeah, pretty much, psandin? |
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| 18:38 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Ping times (latency) from Metro NYC to the datacenters? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5007>; |
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| 18:39 | <@psandin> | I assure you I can pass a turing test, I just choose not to |
| 18:39 | <njs> | yep, looks like that solved the problem too |
| 18:39 | <linbot> | hey, i'm a real person too |
| 18:40 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:40 | * | linbot waves at SpaceHobo |
| 18:40 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 18:40 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:40 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:40 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:41 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 18:41 | <@psandin> | mmm bacon |
| 18:41 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 18:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 18:41 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
| 18:43 | <njs> | thanks all |
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| 19:15 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Risks of .forward-ing? in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5046>; |
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| 19:20 | <_Scott_> | Hmm. Anyone use Google Apps here? |
| 19:21 | <maushu> | Used. What is the problem? |
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| 19:22 | <_Scott_> | Oh, I'm just wondering if my SPF records will cause problems. |
| 19:23 | <_Scott_> | Emails sent from my blackberry are through RIM servers. |
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| 19:23 | <_Scott_> | so im not sure if it will stop mail from being sent |
| 19:26 | <maushu> | No idea, sorry. |
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| 19:30 | <Peng> | That's hardly Google Apps-specific. |
| 19:32 | <_Scott_> | Actually it is. |
| 19:33 | <_Scott_> | RIM has a special set up for gmail/google apps accounts. |
| 19:33 | <_Scott_> | it acts differently than with a regular imap or exchange account |
| 19:34 | <Peng> | Oooh. Neat. |
| 19:34 | <Peng> | Carry on, then. |
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| 19:48 | <bob2> | well, you can check |
| 19:48 | <bob2> | send an email via your blackberry and see if it appears from one of the normal google apps outboung mail servers (you you probably put in your spf records already) |
| 19:52 | <_Scott_> | they are sending through bis.na.blackberry.net i think |
| 19:53 | <_Scott_> | but its working |
| 19:53 | <_Scott_> | atleast major email providers are accepting the messages |
| 19:53 | <bob2> | well, I'd fix it anyway |
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| 19:56 | <_Scott_> | it uses SRS i think |
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| 20:41 | <Arimoto> | what is the basic procedure for reinstalling the OS on a Linode? |
| 20:41 | <pardom> | I need some advice guys. I'm on Centos 5.2 right now, but I'm running into problems where ruby 1.8.6 is required. Ubuntu -- debian in general -- seem to be more updated. Does anyone recommend Ubuntu over Centos? |
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| 20:42 | <bob2> | if you're going to use ubuntu, use lts |
| 20:42 | <bob2> | or debian |
| 20:42 | <HoopyCat> | Arimoto: delete old image and configuration profile, deploy a new distribution using the "Deploy a new distribution" link |
| 20:42 | <Arimoto> | Do I just select the "deploy a distribution" option or do I need to delete the disk images for the old OS? |
| 20:43 | <bob2> | both hae 1.8.6+ |
| 20:43 | <Arimoto> | HoopyCat: got it, thanks. |
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| 20:43 | <HoopyCat> | Arimoto: you can also resize the old image down and make room for the new one, if you want to keep it around for any reason |
| 20:43 | <pardom> | is apt-get usually more up to date than yum? that's what I'm reading |
| 20:43 | <Arimoto> | HoopyCat: won't be doing that, but good to know in general. |
| 20:44 | <bob2> | question's a bit silly |
| 20:44 | <bob2> | ubuntu and debian tend to have faster release cycles than rhel, though |
| 20:44 | <bob2> | (and include far far more software) |
| 20:44 | <Arimoto> | HoopyCat: so I guess that means that a Linode can have two configuration profiles as well? |
| 20:44 | <pardom> | a bit silly how? |
| 20:45 | <bob2> | because apt-get and yum are just package installation tools |
| 20:45 | <bob2> | used by multiple distributions |
| 20:45 | <pardom> | i know |
| 20:45 | <bob2> | also apt was ported to work with rpm |
| 20:46 | <Arimoto> | pardom: my experience from over the summer when I was developing on Ubuntu and Fedora side-by-side was that Ubuntu was ahead on a lot of their packages. |
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| 20:46 | <pardom> | Arimoto: thanks |
| 20:46 | <bob2> | fedora's an entirely different matter |
| 20:47 | <pardom> | bob2: what do you have setup on your linode? |
| 20:47 | <Arimoto> | pardom: in my case it mattered, since I was working with code that requires a lot of new packages, otherwise I'm not one to care |
| 20:47 | <_Scott_> | I prefer debian based distros over rhel based :D |
| 20:47 | <pardom> | (distro) |
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| 20:47 | <HoopyCat> | Arimoto: i believe my personal record on one linode 360 is 5 config profile and 13 images |
| 20:47 | <bob2> | debian |
| 20:47 | <pardom> | okay |
| 20:47 | <pardom> | i think i want to move to debian |
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| 20:48 | <pardom> | i got this linode about a year ago and put centos on it because that's what seemed to be most popular and available to me over the years |
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| 20:48 | <pardom> | this is my first vps and setup from scratch though |
| 20:48 | <vinic> | i need to update my distro so hard. |
| 20:48 | <pardom> | keeping up to date with packages has been my only problem |
| 20:48 | <HoopyCat> | Arimoto: only one can run at a time, of course, but that's fine as i was using it as a bit of a save-game function while trying to avoid turning something into spaghetti :-) |
| 20:49 | <pardom> | radiant cms won't work for me cause of 1.8.6 |
| 20:49 | <Arimoto> | HoopyCat: I'm using this for experimenting/developing so it should be useful to have some different configs around for testing different things. |
| 20:50 | * | Arimoto loves his Linode. |
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| 20:50 | * | amitz loves his imaginary free linode. |
| 20:50 | <HoopyCat> | Arimoto: the duplicate image button may be your friend :-) |
| 20:51 | <rmayorga> | can i haz one imaginary free linod? |
| 20:51 | <Arimoto> | HoopyCat: ooooooo duplicate image! |
| 20:51 | <pardom> | so the recommendation is ubuntu 8.04 LTS 64bit? |
| 20:51 | <Arimoto> | pardom: why not Ubuntu 9.10? |
| 20:52 | <_Scott_> | I use the latest 32 bit. |
| 20:52 | <pardom> | bob2: if you're going to use ubuntu, use lts |
| 20:53 | <bob2> | why would you use the amd64 port on a machine with 360MB of ram ;) |
| 20:53 | <bob2> | (you might have a reason, but I don't think it'd be a good default) |
| 20:53 | <Arimoto> | Interesting that Fedora 11 isn't on the distro list |
| 20:53 | <Arimoto> | *I meant 10 |
| 20:54 | <pardom> | bob2: no reason... i'm here for help |
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| 20:54 | <_Scott_> | would anyone advise against rsyncing the entire file system? |
| 20:54 | <pardom> | bob2 why use 8.04 LTS over 9.10? |
| 20:54 | <bob2> | don't rsync /proc or /sys or /dev |
| 20:54 | <bd_> | _Scott_: mount --bind / /mnt and rsync /mnt, that way you don't pick up virtual filesystem mounts |
| 20:54 | <bob2> | pardom: do you want to have to upgrade in 18 months? |
| 20:55 | <HoopyCat> | pardom: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS |
| 20:55 | <_Scott_> | 10.04 will be out in a few months |
| 20:55 | <bob2> | also lts means less bling, ideally |
| 20:55 | <_Scott_> | so i don't see why you shouldn't use 9.10. |
| 20:55 | <_Scott_> | 10.10 will be LTS right? |
| 20:55 | <bob2> | not sure it's been set in stone |
| 20:56 | <pardom> | ahh.. so tl/dr version: 2 year support vs 6 month support |
| 20:56 | <bob2> | no |
| 20:56 | <BarkerJr> | _Scott_, I usually just rsync /etc, /home, /root, /usr, /var, and any other directories I created |
| 20:56 | <bob2> | bong |
| 20:57 | <HoopyCat> | _Scott_: 10.04 will be LTS, but 9.10 is not, and it is currently january 2010 |
| 20:57 | <HoopyCat> | pardom: 5-year support vs. 1.5-year support |
| 20:57 | <pardom> | ah |
| 20:57 | <pardom> | okay... i'm sold |
| 20:57 | <_Scott_> | right so why shouldnt he just use 9.04 since he will be upgrading in in the near future to 10.04? |
| 20:58 | <pardom> | however, i've only had centos for a year and i'm "upgrading" to ubuntu ;) |
| 20:58 | <BarkerJr> | y'all should just use centos... it's so old, it'll never go out of style |
| 20:58 | <_Scott_> | i hate rhel |
| 20:58 | <HoopyCat> | _Scott_: if 10.04 turns out to be contraindicated in his configuration, and/or there's no compelling reason to upgrade, it'll save a buttload of work |
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| 20:59 | <Arimoto> | some people like work |
| 20:59 | <HoopyCat> | today is guaranteed; tomorrow is not |
| 20:59 | <Peng> | Oh, god. I was just doing like 60 Kb/s in DNS. Sorry, resolver1.dallas.linode.com! |
| 20:59 | <Arimoto> | I get ansi and want to reinstall stuff every year or so, I think it comes from using Windows as a child |
| 21:00 | <pardom> | Arimoto: very true i reinstalled snow leopard for codemash (a conference) this weekend |
| 21:00 | <pardom> | just cause |
| 21:00 | <BarkerJr> | I want a centos 5.4 image in linode |
| 21:00 | <HoopyCat> | Peng: how's your sendmail handling the ipv6 over there? ;-) |
| 21:01 | <BarkerJr> | does the big gap at the upper-right of avail.cfm mean there's room for more? |
| 21:01 | <pardom> | okay, thanks guys, gotta go |
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| 21:07 | <Ghosty3> | is linode down or something? I cant login, and when i reset pass, it says its still wrong |
| 21:08 | <mwalling> | is your caps lock on? |
| 21:08 | <Ghosty3> | no, that would be noob |
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| 21:08 | <mwalling> | so is not being able to log in, even after changing your password |
| 21:08 | <Ghosty3> | nopw |
| 21:08 | <Ghosty3> | tried in IE and firefox |
| 21:10 | <Ghosty3> | my ssh is also down |
| 21:10 | <Ghosty3> | which is why i went to login, to see if my linode was off |
| 21:12 | <Ghosty3> | i hope they respond quickly, as you can imagine, this is a HUGE problem |
| 21:12 | <Ghosty3> | thanks for helping me |
| 21:14 | <mwalling> | Pryon: this is where you yell at me for not following rule 4 |
| 21:14 | <Pryon> | meh |
| 21:14 | <Pryon> | Once a day is enough for me |
| 21:15 | <Pryon> | Unless things get out of hand. |
| 21:15 | * | Nivex waits for his ISP to get its sh!t together |
| 21:15 | <HoopyCat> | it's huuuuuuuge, rochester... huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge. |
| 21:16 | <Nivex> | ping from me to the headend, 20ms. ping from me to the regional PoP, 200ms and climbing |
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| 21:19 | <Ghosty> | have you ever seen that problem before? |
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| 21:27 | <Ghosty3> | how soon should i expect an email back from support? |
| 21:28 | <mathew> | Ghosty3, soon |
| 21:28 | <amitz> | really soon |
| 21:29 | <amitz> | ^^a useless statement. |
| 21:30 | <mathew> | I'm making him feel good |
| 21:31 | <mathew> | before he worries himself into an early grave |
| 21:31 | <mathew> | did it work? |
| 21:31 | <Nivex> | Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe. |
| 21:32 | <amitz> | HoopyCat: part of today is guaranteed. |
| 21:32 | <linbot> | New news from forums: 6 hours and cannot configure Postfix + Courier-IMAP in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5061>; |
| 21:32 | <amitz> | rmayorga: of course you can! |
| 21:33 | <amitz> | mathew: well, we're not hearing from Ghosty3 anymore... |
| 21:33 | <@psandin> | Ghosty3: things taken care of? |
| 21:33 | <amitz> | Nivex: assuming universe will die by being heated. |
| 21:34 | <@psandin> | amitz: we offer no warranty against universal heat death |
| 21:35 | <amitz> | psandin: OUTRAGEOUS! |
| 21:35 | <mathew> | you need Linode on the moon :) |
| 21:35 | <mwalling> | so, anyone purchased a voice recorder recently? |
| 21:37 | <Nivex> | amitz: the death of the universe as described by the loss of all heat |
| 21:37 | <Nivex> | 0K reached, reset! |
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| 21:37 | * | Ghosty3 is freaking out |
| 21:37 | <Ghosty3> | my server apps arent running!! wtf is going on |
| 21:37 | <Ghosty3> | RAWR!!! |
| 21:37 | * | Ghosty3 eats linode support building |
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| 21:38 | <@psandin> | good thing I'm out of the office |
| 21:38 | <HoopyCat> | it's wood-frame; watch out for the splinters |
| 21:38 | <Ghosty3> | i love linode support, this is the first time they have failed me |
| 21:38 | <amitz> | Nivex: that makes more sense, thermodynamically, I believe. |
| 21:39 | <amitz> | mwalling: no, but for what purpose if I may prive into? |
| 21:39 | <@psandin> | Ghosty3: do you have an open support ticket? |
| 21:39 | <amitz> | ^^ wonder if it's grammatically correct, checking on #english ;-) |
| 21:40 | <mwalling> | amitz: there was one in my briefcase when i took over my position at the firehouse. it died. i want a new one |
| 21:41 | <Nivex> | The universe is about to be rebooted. Please save your unsaved documents and close all applications. |
| 21:41 | <amitz> | mwalling: I mean for listening to all kind of sound? Listening to voice? Voice from particular direction? |
| 21:41 | <HoopyCat> | Nivex: can you hold off a bit? i'm almost to second base |
| 21:41 | <mwalling> | amitz: recording a board meeting |
| 21:42 | <HoopyCat> | mwalling: i have a fairly inexpensive one i figured i'd use more than i actually do |
| 21:42 | <Nivex> | HoopyCat: ... |
| 21:42 | <amitz> | mwalling: ah, I see. And you have this 1:1 sized inflatable doll of mwalling in your briefcase? |
| 21:42 | <mwalling> | amitz: ... |
| 21:42 | <amitz> | smart... |
| 21:42 | <amitz> | let me find the google entry for the context of what I said. |
| 21:43 | <Ghosty3> | psandin, maybe you should go back to the office, no one has responded to my support email |
| 21:43 | <amitz> | anyway, no recommendation, no experience :-p. I just help focusing on the spec you need. |
| 21:44 | <Nivex> | Ghosty3: do not taunt happy fun admin |
| 21:44 | <Ghosty3> | jk, but this is a pain, know? |
| 21:44 | <@psandin> | Ghosty3: what's the user name? |
| 21:44 | <Ghosty3> | ghosty |
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| 21:44 | <Ghosty3> | thank YOU!! |
| 21:45 | <Ghosty3> | one day...ill sniff through the admin files, to find your address, and mail you flowers |
| 21:45 | <@psandin> | well, I think I've got an answer for you, there's no ticket in the queue from you right now |
| 21:45 | <Ghosty3> | wtf... |
| 21:45 | <Ghosty3> | ill email again |
| 21:45 | <@psandin> | where'd you send your email off to? |
| 21:46 | <@psandin> | yep |
| 21:46 | <Scott_> | emails to support get added as a ticket? |
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| 21:47 | <Ghosty3> | sent again |
| 21:47 | <amitz> | mwalling: couldn't find any picture of people actually doing that. Basically I was joking that you use that doll and recorder to not attend board meeting. |
| 21:48 | <mwalling> | Scott_: never heard of request tracker? |
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| 21:48 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 21:48 | <Scott_> | nope. lol. |
| 21:48 | <Scott_> | cant say i've never needed support that much here |
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| 21:49 | <amitz> | which is especially funny for me because there was some talks about seriously using doll to deceive police when entering the so called 3-in-1 area in some part of the city here. Basically to enter that area, there must be 3 persons inside a car. |
| 21:50 | * | Scott_ sobs. |
| 21:50 | <Scott_> | a spider jumped on me |
| 21:51 | <Thor_R> | o snap |
| 21:51 | <Thor_R> | finally got it to wor |
| 21:51 | <Thor_R> | k |
| 21:51 | <Thor_R> | ;) |
| 21:52 | <maushu> | Scott_, spiders find you sexy. |
| 21:53 | <Scott_> | i consider killing them. |
| 21:53 | <Scott_> | and that makes me even more sad |
| 21:53 | <@psandin> | Ghosty3: it's a magic email black hole, still no new ticket, can you log in to the dashboard and file the ticket from there? |
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| 21:54 | <ericoc> | lovely, lighttpd is giving me tons of free RAM |
| 21:55 | <mathew> | s/giving/leaving |
| 21:55 | <ericoc> | right :p |
| 21:55 | <Scott_> | if I knew how to configure it, i would use it. |
| 21:55 | <ericoc> | typoing out of excitement |
| 21:55 | <mathew> | ericoc, tried nginx? |
| 21:55 | <ericoc> | Scott_: i just sort of guessed and ended up taking hours to get it working to an acceptable level |
| 21:56 | <ericoc> | mathew: nope, never, i considered it, maybe i'll look into it further |
| 21:56 | <Scott_> | I've never had a linode in the same datacenter, i can move IPs to it right? |
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| 21:57 | <Nicholas> | http://pastebin.com/d77bdf827 |
| 21:57 | <Nicholas> | what am i doing wrong? |
| 21:57 | <ericoc> | IINTEGER |
| 21:57 | <praetorian> | IINTEGER? |
| 21:57 | <Scott_> | nice :D |
| 21:57 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 21:57 | <Nicholas> | ah.... lol |
| 21:57 | <Nicholas> | typos ftl |
| 21:58 | <avar> | what error did your database give you ? |
| 21:58 | <mathew> | "no such thing as iinteger" |
| 21:58 | <mathew> | ;P |
| 21:58 | <ericoc> | mysql error messages always seem cryptic and useless |
| 21:58 | <amitz> | damn, really slow day.. |
| 21:59 | <Ghosty3> | psandin, that is part of my problem, i cant login |
| 21:59 | <mathew> | ericoc, nah. Just don't put all your code on 1 line |
| 21:59 | <sorressean> | does slackware have something like apt-get update for security patches and such? |
| 21:59 | <Ghosty3> | or anything for that matter |
| 22:00 | <mathew> | Ghosty3, reset your password? |
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| 22:00 | <Ghosty3> | you havent read above |
| 22:00 | <Ghosty3> | i have reset now, 6 times, sent 4 emails, and cant ssh |
| 22:00 | <@psandin> | bits and pieces, I showed up for the part about not getting a reponse |
| 22:01 | <Ghosty3> | and when i checked for all the apps i had running, they are all offline |
| 22:02 | <@array> | Ghosty3: i've replied to your e-mail |
| 22:02 | <amitz> | you realized you don't get out enough when you don't know some of the stuff in your city wikitravel entry. |
| 22:03 | <@array> | Ghosty3: you should be receiving it momentarily (if you haven't already) |
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| 22:05 | <Ghosty3> | array, i feel stupid, when you typed this, i logged out to check facebook |
| 22:05 | <Ghosty3> | !o! |
| 22:05 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 22:05 | <Ghosty3> | LOL |
| 22:06 | <Ghosty3> | ahh!! a buddy paid for it, i guess he could no longer wait for me to pay him |
| 22:06 | <Ghosty3> | damn |
| 22:07 | <Ghosty3> | okay |
| 22:07 | <Ghosty3> | thx |
| 22:07 | <@array> | no problem |
| 22:07 | * | Ghosty3 makes angry phonecall |
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| 22:10 | <Peng> | HoopyCat: Sendmail? |
| 22:11 | <mwalling> | Peng: urmom? |
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| 22:13 | <HoopyCat> | Peng: about the only thing known to send that many DNS queries :-) |
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| 22:13 | <Peng> | Oh. |
| 22:13 | <Peng> | Nah, ntpdc -c monlist. :) |
| 22:14 | <Peng> | I totally abuse the DNS servers doing that. Just never this much at once. |
| 22:15 | <Peng> | (FYI: monlist shows the most recent 600 hosts NTP has communicated with. So, 600 PTR lookups. :D ) |
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| 22:19 | <mwalling> | ha, look whats on my monlist: fremont45.linode.com 123 97.107.128.165 1 3 4 5d0 0 379 |
| 22:19 | <mwalling> | oh hai fremont45 |
| 22:19 | <Peng> | :D |
| 22:20 | <mwalling> | anyway to make that first column wider? |
| 22:20 | <Peng> | No idea. |
| 22:20 | <praetorian> | eh? |
| 22:21 | <Peng> | If you run it with -n, it will just show the IPs, and they fit. |
| 22:22 | <Peng> | s/and they fit/which obviously won't be truncated/ |
| 22:22 | <Peng> | (Unless it's IPv6, but then I think it just lets the line run long, at least sometimes.) |
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| 22:24 | <Null_> | there any way to connect to mysql on localhost from a chroot, without exposing the port externally? |
| 22:25 | <HoopyCat> | newark136.linode.com 123 97.107.134.213 1 3 4 190 0 182 |
| 22:25 | <HoopyCat> | well, at least they're behaved ;-) |
| 22:25 | <HoopyCat> | Null_: have it listen on 127.0.0.1 |
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| 22:27 | <Null_> | ah, thanks, was just being an idiot. |
| 22:28 | <Null_> | nothing but problems getting this chroot'd environment working as needed. |
| 22:28 | <HoopyCat> | dear client with count=32000 or so: the time doesn't change THAT much from second to second |
| 22:29 | <Peng> | Oh, right. monlist truncates remote IPv6 addresses, but not local ones. |
| 22:29 | <mwalling> | 99.19.197.78 56163 97.107.128.165 51026 1 3 5d0 16 1 |
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| 22:30 | <mwalling> | 51026? is that a lot? |
| 22:30 | <sorressean> | um, is something wrong with freemont? |
| 22:30 | <mwalling> | (see? you give me numbers and look whats happening) |
| 22:30 | <Peng> | mwalling: It says the average interval is 16 seconds. |
| 22:30 | <mwalling> | sorressean: yoiu're the first to complain |
| 22:30 | <sorressean> | weird. I just logged in and tried to ssh and I'm getting lots of unknown host-temporary resolution failure |
| 22:31 | <Peng> | mwalling: Which is totally idiotic (ntpd's default minimum is 64 seconds), but... many clients are worse. |
| 22:31 | <Peng> | sorressean: DNS issues? Does a normal old "host www.linode.com" work? What does /etc/resolv.conf say? |
| 22:31 | <Peng> | sorressean: Hold on. |
| 22:32 | <Peng> | sorressean: The IP you're currently IRCing from has no rDNS. Perhaps SSH is complaining about that. |
| 22:32 | <sorressean> | ping: unknown host linode.com. I've had this running for a while, so... this is just recent. |
| 22:32 | <Peng> | Or not. |
| 22:32 | <sorressean> | naw, this is my windows box. I'm using an irc client accessible with my reader. |
| 22:32 | <Peng> | sorressean: Did you recently do anything? Migrate your node to another data center? Break DHCP? :D |
| 22:33 | <Peng> | sorressean: Wait, does any networking work? |
| 22:33 | <sorressean> | I can log in over ssh. :o |
| 22:33 | <Peng> | sorressean: What about explicitly, say, "host www.linode.com 4.2.2.1"? |
| 22:33 | <mwalling> | 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:34 | <tjfontaine> | Peng: thanks for using host and not dig |
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| 22:34 | <sorressean> | mango:/etc# host linode.com 4.2.2.1 |
| 22:34 | <sorressean> | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 22:35 | <bd_> | try 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:35 | <sorressean> | har har |
| 22:35 | <bd_> | or 8.8.4.4 |
| 22:36 | <sorressean> | ... |
| 22:36 | <bd_> | what? |
| 22:36 | <sorressean> | anyway, using linode's real IP address 67.18.186.61 I get: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted |
| 22:36 | <bd_> | sorressean: is ping setuid? |
| 22:37 | <sorressean> | I haven't done anything to change it's perms, and I'm running as root for this, thought it'd be easier |
| 22:37 | <Peng> | Ah, right, 8.8.8.8. I'm sleepy, or else I would've used it. :) |
| 22:37 | <Peng> | !mtr-fremont 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:37 | <linbot> | Peng: [mtr] 8.8.8.8: 9 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 23.3ms (urmom) |
| 22:37 | <Peng> | !mtr-atlanta 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:37 | <MTecknology> | How can I kill all active connections from a specific IP? |
| 22:37 | <Peng> | !mtr-newark 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:37 | <linbot> | Peng: [mtr] 8.8.8.8: 8 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 1.3ms |
| 22:37 | <linbot> | Peng: [mtr] 8.8.8.8: 9 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 9.4ms |
| 22:37 | <tjfontaine> | MTecknology: tcpkill |
| 22:38 | <Peng> | Huh. |
| 22:38 | <sorressean> | o. I thought you were just screwing with me with those ips. :p |
| 22:38 | <HoopyCat> | sorressean: nope... 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are anycasted DNS servers for public use provided by google; 4.2.2.1 is some guy's server run out of his garage, relatively speaking, but it's still usually working |
| 22:38 | <MTecknology> | tjfontaine: thanks - I'm getting a massive transfer that's way out of the norm.. |
| 22:39 | * | sorressean laughs |
| 22:39 | <HoopyCat> | !mtr-fremont 4.2.2.1 |
| 22:39 | <linbot> | HoopyCat: [mtr] 4.2.2.1: 7 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 1.7ms (urmom) |
| 22:39 | <MTecknology> | tjfontaine: how do I use it? |
| 22:39 | <HoopyCat> | man, google really needs to get a presence in california |
| 22:39 | <sorressean> | man pkill |
| 22:39 | <sorressean> | I'm not sure what this name resolution issue is, then. :( |
| 22:39 | <Peng> | Dallas first! |
| 22:40 | <Peng> | sorressean: Firewall? |
| 22:40 | <sorressean> | that shouldn't be causing it, but I'll check. sec |
| 22:40 | <sorressean> | wtf |
| 22:41 | <sorressean> | I'm going to crawl under my rock. that was stupid. |
| 22:41 | <sorressean> | I'm not sure what made it decide to trip out though. |
| 22:41 | <Peng> | Least it was easy to fix. :) |
| 22:41 | * | sorressean grins |
| 22:41 | <sorressean> | thanks for all the help. :p |
| 22:41 | <tjfontaine> | tcpkill -i eth0 ip 1.2.3.4 |
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| 22:44 | <mwalling> | when did winword stop supporting shift f2 to change word case? |
| 22:46 | <MTecknology> | tjfontaine: thans for that very much - I used tcpkill host 1.2.3.4 |
| 22:47 | <MTecknology> | Linode: Thanks for sending me that info... now to figure out what the were after.... |
| 22:49 | <MTecknology> | this is ugly... It looks like legit traffic but that transfer rate was WAY too high |
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| 22:50 | -!- | dcraig is now known as Guest2324 |
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| 22:53 | <Scott_> | Total: 2.80 GB :( |
| 22:53 | <Scott_> | I downloaded atleast .8 gb today... |
| 22:54 | <Scott_> | I really need to find something else to do with spare bandwidth |
| 22:55 | <MTecknology> | Scott_: I just had a run on my system - 200% CPU usage and a whole lot of bandwidth taken |
| 22:55 | <MTecknology> | 2 hour run; massive load on my machine and no explanation why |
| 22:58 | * | sorressean laughs |
| 22:58 | <sorressean> | I found the problem |
| 22:58 | <sorressean> | for some odd reason, my blackhole hosts list that i used from hosts.deny is blocking *everything* outbound and inbound. slightly retarded, go go go arno! |
| 22:59 | <Scott_> | I hate firewall issues. I looked like an idiot today as well. |
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| 22:59 | <sorressean> | I assumed that that was just for inbound stuff |
| 22:59 | <Scott_> | newark linode firewalled london linode after the networking issues and for some reason it wasnt in the allowed hosts list |
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| 22:59 | <Scott_> | i assumed it was linodes fault xd |
| 22:59 | <sorressean> | so I took all denyhosts's denied hosts and added them to the firewall. :p |
| 23:00 | * | HedgeMage peeks in |
| 23:00 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 23:00 | <sorressean> | lol. yeah, I thought their nameserver went down or something. |
| 23:01 | * | HedgeMage eats delicious snacks and wonders what's up out there on the interwebs |
| 23:01 | * | Scott_ trys to get a refund from failtech. |
| 23:01 | <Scott_> | they are incredibly suckish company :( |
| 23:01 | <sorressean> | what are they supposed to do? |
| 23:01 | <Scott_> | its a VPS provider |
| 23:02 | <Scott_> | i call it 23/6 hosting |
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| 23:02 | <Scott_> | pingdom reported an average of 1 hour downtime per day |
| 23:02 | * | sorressean smirks |
| 23:02 | <LittleAmitz> | that's a lot. |
| 23:02 | <Scott_> | yes it is |
| 23:02 | <sorressean> | sounds like a dude I used to work for |
| 23:02 | <Scott_> | and its down usually once a week for more than an hour hence the 6 instead of 7 |
| 23:03 | <mwalling> | sounds like urmom |
| 23:03 | <sorressean> | I was like 13, and I wanted to learn and it gave me free web space cause I couldn't afford it. I'd routinely get "OMG it's a hacker," calls at like 2:00 AM, and it turns out he chmod -R 755 /home or some stupid shit. :o |
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| 23:03 | <Scott_> | also has a horrible connection. I could operate a better host out of an apartment with a t1 line. |
| 23:05 | <Scott_> | oh and support |
| 23:05 | <Scott_> | its nonexistant |
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| 23:08 | <amitz> | perhaps the word "little" is misleading... |
| 23:09 | <amitz> | oh, we had a peeker! |
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| 23:11 | <tjfontaine> | that's what she said |
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| 23:16 | <amitz> | an accidental deep meaning of "no pun intended".. :-p |
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| 23:41 | <mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 23:41 | <sorressean> | um, I just deployed a slackware distro. I was going to rsync the packages as it doesn't seem to have slackpkg, but there aren't any compilers for me to build with. how do I at least get a compiler going? |
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| 23:42 | <Scott_> | i've never used it :D |
| 23:42 | <Scott_> | friend uses it at work |
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| 23:55 | <mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 23:55 | <HedgeMage> | mikegrb: don't knock slackware! It was my first distro some 15+ years ago, and it wants you to get off its lawn :P |
| 23:56 | <HedgeMage> | @#$% him and his autoresponder nonsense :P |
| 23:56 | <sorressean> | o. did he provide any useful info? I've got mikegrb on ignore because of that retarded lolz script thing. |
| 23:57 | <HedgeMage> | sorressean: no, no useful info. Just a Slackware-triggered autoresponse I didn't realize was auto at first |
| 23:57 | <HedgeMage> | I'm on the edge of /ignore-ing him myself. |
| 23:57 | <sorressean> | o. what a fag. |
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| 23:58 | <sorressean> | and yeah. /ignore mikegrb is good for you. |
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