| --- | Log | opened Mon Jan 11 00:00:41 2010 |
| 00:02 | <amitz> | Bohemian: nope, unfortunately |
| 00:02 | <Bohemian> | :( |
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| 00:07 | <amitz> | Bohemian: perhaps it's time to look at the problem at a grander perspective? maybe use google apps instead as mail provider? |
| 00:08 | <Bohemian> | amitz: doesn't that cost money? |
| 00:08 | <Bohemian> | and i'm largely happy with my mailserver |
| 00:09 | <amitz> | Bohemian: no if your number of user is less than 50. |
| 00:11 | <amitz> | number of user is almost like number of mailbox (but different, I know, just to simplify my point). |
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| 00:12 | <amitz> | and your mail is considered more spam free, meaning that there is smaller possibility that a mail server somewhere decides to not like your mail and reject all your mail. |
| 00:14 | <Peng> | Think I should file a ticket about ns5? It's not worth waking anyone up over. |
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| 00:15 | <Battousai> | file 5 tickets |
| 00:15 | <jamesp> | I just signed up for Linode and would love thoughts on selecting an OS for my primary server (will eventually just have apache/php and a few other apps, but I plan to put mysql onto another linode). |
| 00:15 | <SirSquidness> | jamesp: are you familiar with any specific distros? |
| 00:16 | <jamesp> | I'm migrating from a MediaTemple CentOS box, but am interested in Ubuntu frankly because of its general popularity. |
| 00:17 | <nb> | jamesp, i'd stay with cento |
| 00:17 | <nb> | centos |
| 00:17 | <jamesp> | @nb: Thank you; may I ask why? |
| 00:17 | <nb> | 1) Because you already are familiar with it |
| 00:17 | <metap|pe> | stick with it for the nostalgia |
| 00:17 | <nb> | 2) It's what I've always used (well, it or Fedora) |
| 00:17 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Back-ups in Texas in Backup Service Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5036>; |
| 00:17 | <nb> | which it's based off of RHEL which is based off of fedora |
| 00:18 | <nb> | 3) I've never actually tried anything else, because it works for me |
| 00:19 | <jamesp> | @nb I am tempted to do that, but I also feel that my usage of CentOS has been suboptimal. I find myself building from source because yum either doesn't have the packages I need, or they are not new enough to have the features I need. Of course, perhaps it will be the same with Ubuntu... |
| 00:19 | <nb> | jamesp, i would actually suggest trying Fedora |
| 00:20 | <amitz> | jamesp: more ubuntu users = more support ;-) |
| 00:20 | <nb> | jamesp, it is newer, but is like CentOS (CentOS is actually a old version of fedora, with security updates) |
| 00:20 | <nb> | jamesp, or try adding the EPEL yum repository to fedora |
| 00:20 | <nb> | jamesp, or try adding the EPEL yum repository to CentOS |
| 00:21 | <nb> | EPEL is produced by fedora to be extra packages that RHEL does not ship |
| 00:21 | <jamesp> | Nice, thank you @nb (and ;-) @amitz) |
| 00:21 | <nb> | CentOS is basically RHEL without the Red Hat branding |
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| 00:21 | <nb> | EPEL==Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux |
| 00:21 | <amitz> | if you really want stability, I'd recommend against fedora |
| 00:21 | <nb> | amitz, why? |
| 00:21 | <nb> | it is no less stable than Ubuntu |
| 00:22 | <amitz> | nb: because fedora is the testing ground of centos/redhat. |
| 00:22 | <nb> | amitz, umm, no more than Ubuntu is the testing ground for debian |
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| 00:22 | <nb> | amitz, fedora rawhide is the testing ground |
| 00:22 | <nb> | fedora releases are fine |
| 00:22 | <amitz> | nb: but ubuntu is willing to support ubuntu, where as IIGC, fedora is not supported? |
| 00:22 | <amitz> | If I Guess Correctly |
| 00:23 | <nb> | umm, what do yu mean by support? fedora has a great community |
| 00:23 | <nb> | #fedora and all the related channels on freenode, all of the mailing lists |
| 00:23 | <jamesp> | I didn't mean to set off distro wars! I'll look into Fedora a bit. If I did go with Ubuntu, should I use LTS/8.04 instead of 9.10? This will be a production box. |
| 00:23 | <nb> | particularly users@lists.fedoraproject.org |
| 00:23 | * | amitz bbl |
| 00:23 | <nb> | you'll have the same problems if you use LTS as with CentOS |
| 00:23 | <nb> | only essential security updates |
| 00:24 | <jamesp> | Gotcha. |
| 00:24 | <nb> | jamesp, you might check out #fedora on irc.freenode.net |
| 00:24 | <jamesp> | Sounds like Fedora or Ubuntu 9 for me |
| 00:24 | <nb> | its a good place for help with fedora |
| 00:24 | <jamesp> | Thanks for all of your help, @nb |
| 00:24 | <nb> | or users@lists.fedoraproject.org if you prefer mailing lists |
| 00:24 | <nb> | jamesp, you're welcome |
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| 00:26 | <amitz> | oh, it has degenerated to distro war :-p, sorry. |
| 00:26 | <nb> | :) |
| 00:26 | * | amitz is not knowledgeable in the art of fedora |
| 00:27 | <nb> | yeah sorry, was just trying to defend his distro :) /me is fedora developer |
| 00:28 | <amitz> | oh, what do you mean by fedora developer? As in working for redhat? Package maintainer? |
| 00:28 | <nb> | package maintainer |
| 00:28 | <nb> | although most of my work is in fedora infrastructure as sysadmin-type of stuff |
| 00:29 | <nb> | although i maintain znc and sks |
| 00:29 | <nb> | and a couple wordpress plugins |
| 00:29 | <nb> | and co-maintain spamassassin now |
| 00:29 | <nb> | redhat does pay quite a few people to work on fedora, as well as sponsors a lot of our infrastructure (and then has a whole other bunch of people that are just involved with RHEL) |
| 00:30 | <nb> | but /me is not that lucky to be employed by redhat :) |
| 00:30 | <derfy> | i know how to fix a distro war....an EDITOR WAR |
| 00:30 | * | derfy ducks' |
| 00:30 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:30 | <nb> | LOL |
| 00:30 | <nb> | i don't get in those |
| 00:30 | * | nb uses vi, but hasn't ever tried anything else really |
| 00:30 | <nb> | i used to use something called joe i think |
| 00:31 | <derfy> | i use nano |
| 00:31 | <nb> | but then learned vi because joe wasn't installed somewhere |
| 00:31 | <nb> | and kept using vi because it is everywhere |
| 00:31 | <tarpman> | joe's own editor |
| 00:31 | <nb> | or a GNOME vs KDE war :) |
| 00:31 | * | nb has seen a few of those in fedora-devel-list before the mods took over |
| 00:39 | <amitz> | I retype everything, no need to use any editor |
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| 00:40 | <amitz> | nb: oh, but redhat sponsors you? nice though, it's like working but with flexitime. |
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| 00:42 | <nb> | amitz, no, redhat does not pay me |
| 00:42 | <nb> | redhat pays a lot of employees to work on fedora |
| 00:42 | <amitz> | I am/was maintaining an app for wine, basically commenting on it's compatibility to wine and the necessary workaround. But after I scale back the app, I no longer active. |
| 00:42 | <nb> | but there are a lot of us that are volunteers too |
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| 00:52 | <nb> | fyi i filed a ticket about ns5 |
| 00:52 | <nb> | Thank you for contacting us. I have forwarded this ticket onto our system administrators for further investigation and we will notify you once additional information becomes available. Your patience is greatly appreciated. |
| 00:52 | <nb> | they're looking into it |
| 00:52 | <amitz> | nb: you mean the automated email system is looking into it :-p |
| 00:53 | <nb> | no |
| 00:53 | <nb> | danny ariti forwarded it to the sysadmins |
| 00:53 | <amitz> | ah, I see. |
| 00:53 | <@array> | nb: it's working again :) |
| 00:53 | <nb> | oh, yes it is |
| 00:54 | <nb> | nice |
| 00:55 | <Peng> | nb: Oh, alright. |
| 00:55 | <Peng> | I can confirm it's working again. |
| 00:55 | <Peng> | :) |
| 00:55 | <Internat> | man i remember when linode only had 1 staff member.. and then 2.. and now its taking off at a rate of knots!! |
| 00:57 | <amitz> | then we will all be employed! :-p |
| 01:03 | <nb> | array, it doesn't seem like it is responding to notifys |
| 01:04 | <nb> | it had an old version of my zone, from yesterday, and i bumped the serial again, and ns1-ns4 all did a zone transfer from my master, but ns5 did not |
| 01:04 | <mikegrb> | it's a bit slow to fully load |
| 01:05 | <nb> | mikegrb, oh ok |
| 01:05 | <nb> | thats fine |
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| 01:05 | <mikegrb> | if it still doesn't respond to notify in an hour or so update the ticket and we will look into that in the morning |
| 01:06 | <nb> | mikegrb, ok thanks |
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| 02:31 | <shaddai> | anyone alive in here? |
| 02:32 | <SirSquidness> | I may be. |
| 02:32 | <shaddai> | nifty |
| 02:33 | <shaddai> | are you a linode wizard? |
| 02:33 | <SirSquidness> | Alas, I am not |
| 02:33 | <SirSquidness> | But there are plenty of others in here who know what they're talking about |
| 02:33 | <shaddai> | got a simple question really |
| 02:33 | <SirSquidness> | Try anyway |
| 02:33 | <SirSquidness> | eventually someone will answer if I can't |
| 02:34 | <shaddai> | can iptables on my linode lock the linode ajax console out? |
| 02:34 | <shaddai> | not that I want to, I want to make sure I don't :-) |
| 02:35 | <bob2> | no |
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| 02:36 | <shaddai> | okee doke. |
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| 02:36 | <mikegrb> | mmm bacon |
| 02:36 | <shaddai> | that Ajax console has saved my bacon twice so far...kinda don't want to break it. |
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| 02:39 | <maushu> | mmm ajax |
| 02:40 | <maushu> | shaddai, the ajax console is like having a local terminal connected to the linode |
| 02:42 | <shaddai> | Yeah...I know. |
| 02:43 | <bob2> | you can login to lish via ssh, btw (similar deal to ajax, but you get a better terminal and can use ssh keys) |
| 02:43 | <shaddai> | well..I oughtta clarfiy. I know it acts local in function, but didn't know how it connected to the machine |
| 02:44 | <reillyeon> | shaddai: It's basicially a serial cable. |
| 02:44 | <shaddai> | gotcha :-) |
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| 03:00 | <xpurple> | Hello? |
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| 03:03 | <Ashish> | What is bandwidth pooling? |
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| 03:03 | <bob2> | with regard to? |
| 03:03 | <Ashish> | Linode billing |
| 03:04 | <Ashish> | or in any context |
| 03:04 | <x2> | Can I run a remote desktop to my linode server? |
| 03:04 | <x2> | Such as vnc through a ssh tunnel. |
| 03:05 | <bob2> | x2: if you really want to |
| 03:05 | <x2> | Cool. |
| 03:05 | <bob2> | Ashish: presumably the way linode lets you share your bandwidth quotas across all your linodes |
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| 03:06 | <xpurple> | I currently have a colo in some guys office, but it's 384k up DSL and is slow. |
| 03:06 | <xpurple> | Thinking about switchingto linode. |
| 03:07 | <Ashish> | what are the benefits of bandwidth pooling? |
| 03:07 | <xpurple> | My current server is a 500mhz box with a 5 gig HD and 256 megs of ram. I presume that I will get better performance from linode? |
| 03:08 | <DephNet[Paul]> | Ashish, say you have 2 linodes, one does 50GB of transfer a month, the other can transfer upto 350GB without you having to pay overages |
| 03:09 | <DephNet[Paul]> | xpurple, more than likely, Linode do offer a 7 day money back guarentee, so you can sign up, and if its not better performance you can request your money back within 7 days |
| 03:09 | <xpurple> | Cool. |
| 03:09 | <xpurple> | I use my current colo for mail, dns and light webserving. |
| 03:10 | <DephNet[Paul]> | you can get a 540 for that i would guess |
| 03:10 | <xpurple> | I average about 1 gig of data transfer a month. |
| 03:11 | <bob2> | so you'll 199GB left over to donate to tor ;p |
| 03:11 | <xpurple> | You can run tor on there? |
| 03:11 | <xpurple> | Without violating ToS? |
| 03:12 | <DephNet[Paul]> | ive not reviewed the ToS lately, but when i did it was pretty much you can run what you want, as long as it is legal |
| 03:13 | <xpurple> | Sounds easy enough. |
| 03:13 | <xpurple> | How long from the time I pay till I am up and running? |
| 03:13 | <bob2> | block outgoing tcp:25 at least |
| 03:13 | <bob2> | if your account is flagged for manual assessment, a few minutes |
| 03:13 | <bob2> | most are not |
| 03:13 | <xpurple> | Can I choose where I want the server located? |
| 03:13 | <DephNet[Paul]> | yep |
| 03:14 | <bob2> | signup, then when you first login, you choose which dc |
| 03:14 | <DephNet[Paul]> | once you have paid, and logged in to the members area |
| 03:14 | <bob2> | after that, if you want, you can: |
| 03:14 | <bob2> | !migration |
| 03:14 | <linbot> | Linodes can be migrated between datacenters by simply opening a ticket. Your disk images will be copied intact, but you will be issued a new IP address. Once a migration is configured, it makes a button on the dashboard available for you to start the migration yourself. Migration typically takes about 1-3 minutes per GB. |
| 03:14 | <xpurple> | Very nice. |
| 03:14 | <xpurple> | Now the issue is how to get the data there. |
| 03:14 | <xpurple> | Only a couple gigs. |
| 03:15 | <DephNet[Paul]> | xpurple, SFTP |
| 03:15 | <bob2> | (upgrades/downgrades are automated, assuming there's space) |
| 03:15 | <xpurple> | Cool. |
| 03:15 | <xpurple> | And the IP will be static, so I can move my DNS server over too. |
| 03:16 | <DephNet[Paul]> | xpurple, you can use the Linode DNS servers |
| 03:16 | <xpurple> | Never thought about that. |
| 03:16 | <DephNet[Paul]> | thats what i do |
| 03:16 | <xpurple> | I've been running my own for so long. |
| 03:16 | <bob2> | linode's nameservers can act as slaves, if you prefer |
| 03:16 | <xpurple> | Yeah, that would be best. |
| 03:17 | <xpurple> | I think I'll do this. Is there anything else I should know before diving in? |
| 03:17 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 03:17 | <bob2> | cake |
| 03:18 | <mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 03:18 | <xpurple> | The cake is a le! |
| 03:18 | <xpurple> | lie! |
| 03:18 | <DephNet[Paul]> | !rules |
| 03:18 | <DephNet[Paul]> | linbot hates me :@ |
| 03:18 | <xpurple> | Heh |
| 03:19 | <Ashish> | Do u mean if I am having 2 linodes say one can transfer 300GB & other 200GB, in case if I transfer 350 GB with my linode that has 300 GB account & 150 GB with my 200GB account then I don't have to pay extra |
| 03:20 | <bob2> | yes |
| 03:20 | <xpurple> | Thank you all. I'll have an account soon :) |
| 03:20 | <DephNet[Paul]> | Ashish, yep |
| 03:20 | <Ashish> | thanx |
| 03:20 | <praetorian> | !referral |
| 03:20 | <linbot> | Looking for a referral code? Use this one for free activation: dbe98bfe8cad58e02d9ea22fc98f446240edc909 |
| 03:21 | <xpurple> | Free activation? |
| 03:21 | <xpurple> | First monty free or something? |
| 03:21 | <DephNet[Paul]> | yep |
| 03:21 | <DephNet[Paul]> | no |
| 03:21 | <xpurple> | Oh |
| 03:21 | <xpurple> | What does that do for me then? |
| 03:21 | <bob2> | nothing |
| 03:22 | <DephNet[Paul]> | other than gives you a warm fuzzy feeling |
| 03:22 | <xpurple> | Oh |
| 03:22 | <xpurple> | Heh |
| 03:22 | <xpurple> | Thanks then. |
| 03:22 | <xpurple> | Later all. |
| 03:22 | <bob2> | who's code was it? mikegrb or caker's? |
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| 03:22 | <praetorian> | tje |
| 03:23 | <praetorian> | the 'linode' code |
| 03:25 | <praetorian> | oh there is no activation fee is there? ;) |
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| 03:28 | <Ashish> | 4 processor Xen instances |
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| 03:31 | <Ashish> | what is its significance? |
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| 03:31 | <bob2> | nothing, really |
| 03:31 | <bob2> | just that you have access to 4 cores |
| 03:32 | <Ashish> | thanx |
| 03:33 | <bob2> | so you have access, most of the time, to more cpu power than a lot of other vps providers |
| 03:33 | <bob2> | (most of them seem to only let you access 1 core) |
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| 03:37 | <Peng> | "most of them", really? That sucks. |
| 03:37 | <Peng> | I only know of a few VPS providers, so... |
| 03:38 | <Peng> | Slicehost/Rackspace gives you 4 cores, but their servers only have 4 cores total, so Linode still offers you less contention. |
| 03:38 | <purrdeta> | Well, we all know linode is best anyway :P |
| 03:39 | <Peng> | Certainly. :P |
| 03:39 | <purrdeta> | and my meaning is that you dont need to know any more than that hehe |
| 03:39 | <purrdeta> | Peng: how ya been? |
| 03:39 | <DephNet[Paul]> | doesnt Linode have 16 cores per host? or did i read wrong |
| 03:39 | <Peng> | DephNet[Paul]: 8 |
| 03:40 | <Peng> | DephNet[Paul]: Dual CPUs, which are currently quad-core Xeons. |
| 03:40 | <Peng> | One day they might get octocore CPUs, but not yet... |
| 03:40 | <DephNet[Paul]> | ahh, fair enough |
| 03:40 | <Peng> | purrdeta: I still don't know how to answer that question. :D |
| 03:40 | <DephNet[Paul]> | i guess they will do that when they cost the same as a quad-core CPU :P |
| 03:41 | <Peng> | Maybe, maybe not. They get by well enough on the curent CPUs. |
| 03:41 | * | Peng shrugs. |
| 03:41 | <Peng> | They might get faster CPUs, or enjoy the cost savings. :P |
| 03:42 | <DephNet[Paul]> | yeah, and i like the fact that they limit the number of linodes per host, unlike other providers who say they do, then cram on upto 100 vpses per host |
| 03:42 | <purrdeta> | well, dont fix what isnt broken yaknow :P |
| 03:44 | <Peng> | I exist in this weird bubble where the only VPS providers I know anything about are Linode and SH/RS, so I assume everything they do is standard practice. :P |
| 03:44 | <bob2> | they're the classey end |
| 03:44 | <bob2> | check out http://lowendbox.com/ sometime |
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| 03:44 | <purrdeta> | its sad what they do :P |
| 03:44 | <purrdeta> | erm what the low end things do |
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| 03:45 | <DephNet[Paul]> | bob2, thats because you dont frequent webhostingtalk.com |
| 03:45 | <Peng> | bob2: THat's frightening. |
| 03:46 | <DephNet[Paul]> | where there are hundreds of providers that stick openvz on a single core server, and think they are the best vps provider |
| 03:46 | <Peng> | DephNet[Paul]: WHT is _so_ weird. It's full of people who run cPanel on VZ, the antithesis of what I'm used to. |
| 03:46 | <purrdeta> | yeah :/ |
| 03:46 | <purrdeta> | yeah I stopped going there ages ago :P |
| 03:46 | <bob2> | DephNet[Paul]: it's all about the domain name man |
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| 03:47 | <DephNet[Paul]> | Peng_, and then they wonder why their provider cut them off for using too many resources :P |
| 03:47 | <DephNet[Paul]> | bob2, you mean like cheapvps.co.uk :P |
| 03:48 | <purrdeta> | I cant imagine getting shared hosting anymore... I'm spoiled like that... I figure if I cant afford a VPS I dont need it >.> |
| 03:48 | <purrdeta> | Yeah, spoiled, I know |
| 03:48 | <DephNet[Paul]> | back later |
| 03:49 | <Peng> | Hey guys, cheapnode.com and expensivenode.com aren't taken... :D |
| 03:49 | <purrdeta> | haha |
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| 04:28 | <Ashish> | What is IP failover? |
| 04:28 | <beefsalad> | well, take a guess what it is |
| 04:29 | <amitz> | an IP which shouldn't fail because it will be all over. |
| 04:30 | <amitz> | Ashish: nah, basically, if it fails, other IP will take over. |
| 04:30 | <chesty> | other linode will take over the IP |
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| 04:30 | <Ashish> | thanx |
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| 04:32 | <Ashish> | does disk image means OS image? |
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| 04:32 | <purrdeta> | not always |
| 04:33 | <purrdeta> | infact never |
| 04:33 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 04:33 | <purrdeta> | lol |
| 04:33 | <purrdeta> | disk image is just a virtual disk. |
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| 04:33 | <purrdeta> | It is where the OS will be installed, where you will store your files, etc. |
| 04:33 | <amitz> | chesty: wait, you can do that? Assign a particular IP to another linode? |
| 04:34 | <purrdeta> | in the same DC |
| 04:34 | <chesty> | that's what ip failover is |
| 04:35 | <amitz> | woah... I thought that will involve DC's router, which we don't have access to. ... ok, I now consider IP failover as voodo at the moment. |
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| 04:35 | <Ashish> | what is swap image? |
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| 04:36 | <purrdeta> | its what the os uses for swap space. |
| 04:37 | <Ashish> | is it something like page file in windows? |
| 04:37 | <purrdeta> | ehh yeah |
| 04:37 | <Ashish> | thanx |
| 04:40 | <Lance1> | Once you sign up for a linode package, are you able to upgrade the RAM seperately? |
| 04:41 | <amitz> | cmiiw. So I can have 2 linodes, each having the same IP. But traffic by default is directed to one linode, and if that linode fails, traffic is automatically directed to the other linode. Can you do that using default router? Special router? |
| 04:41 | <literal> | Lance1: yeah, but usually you get more for your money by just upgrading to a more expensive plan |
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| 04:41 | <Peng> | !f extras |
| 04:41 | <Peng> | !extras |
| 04:41 | <linbot> | Available Add-ons: Disk: $ 2 per 1GB/month. RAM: $ 5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $ 10 per 100GB/month. IP: $ 1 per IP/month |
| 04:41 | <linbot> | Peng: Extras and Add-ons are available for your Linode at the following prices: Disk: $2 per 1GB/month. RAM: $5 per 90MB/month. Transfer: $10 per 100GB/month. IP: $1 per IP/month |
| 04:41 | <Peng> | Oops. |
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| 04:42 | <Lance1> | Oooh okay. |
| 04:42 | <Lance1> | Thanks |
| 04:42 | <Lance1> | Might as well just upgrade a plan - get more RAM that way. |
| 04:42 | <Lance1> | :) Cheers. |
| 04:42 | <Ashish> | can I deploy multiple Linux destro in one linode concurrently? |
| 04:42 | <purrdeta> | Ashish: no |
| 04:42 | <Ashish> | thanx |
| 04:42 | <Peng> | Ashish: You can have multiple installs on disk images, but you can't *boot* them concurrently. |
| 04:43 | <Peng> | s/on disk/on separate disk/ |
| 04:43 | <purrdeta> | indeed |
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| 04:45 | <Ashish> | thanx! Peng |
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| 04:46 | <Ashish> | what are ssh keys? |
| 04:47 | <chesty> | !library |
| 04:47 | <linbot> | chesty: Sorry, I don't know anything about that |
| 04:47 | <chesty> | liar |
| 04:47 | <purrdeta> | go here http://library.linode.com/ learn and become awesome. |
| 04:49 | <Peng> | !library SSH keys |
| 04:49 | <linbot> | Peng: 1. Installing PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) (http://bitl.in/ohiw) - 2. Securely Administer MySQL with an SSH Tunnel (http://bitl.in/0jeax) - 3. Copying a Disk Image Over SSH (http://bitl.in/jawr2i) |
| 04:49 | <Peng> | Not helpful! |
| 04:50 | <Peng> | WHT is scary: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=904848 |
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| 04:55 | <purrdeta> | what would be a good way to figure out where my bandwidth is being used? (like xmpp, asterisk, whatever) |
| 04:55 | <purrdeta> | It isnt that important really. I am curious however |
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| 04:57 | <Ashi> | What are configuration profiles? |
| 04:58 | <Peng> | Ashi: Kernel + a list of disk images + some settings |
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| 05:00 | <Ashi> | what is the need of having different disk images? |
| 05:02 | <Peng> | Ashi: What is the need for having different partitions? |
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| 05:02 | <Peng> | Ashi: Because that's what a Linode disk image is equivalent to. |
| 05:03 | <Ashi> | Thanks... |
| 05:03 | <Peng> | Ashi: At the minimum, swap needs to be a different partition. Aside from that, some people like to put, say, /home, or /tmp or /var/log in a different partition; and some don''t. |
| 05:05 | <Ashi> | Support for booting with an initrd. what is initrd? |
| 05:05 | <Peng> | Google it. |
| 05:06 | <Peng> | !library Finnix |
| 05:06 | <linbot> | Peng: 1. Finnix Recovery (http://bitl.in/e2ync) - 2. Copying a Disk Image to a Separate Linode Account (http://bitl.in/3koba) - 3. Custom Distro HowTo (http://bitl.in/6t9) |
| 05:06 | <Peng> | (I was just looking that up for myself.) |
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| 05:20 | <Ashi> | what is meant by device nodes? |
| 05:21 | <Peng> | In reference to what? |
| 05:22 | <Ashi> | in context of configuration profiles |
| 05:24 | <bob2> | disks in unix are directly accessible as files in /dev |
| 05:25 | <bob2> | /dev/xvda -> first virtualised disk, xvdb -> second |
| 05:25 | <bob2> | maybe you could give us the link to the thing you're reading? |
| 05:26 | <Ashi> | Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and device nodes http://www.linode.com/features.cfm |
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| 05:32 | <Tim5> | Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support. what is slave support facilities? |
| 05:32 | <bob2> | you run a dns server |
| 05:33 | <bob2> | and linode's dns server suck zones from it and serve them |
| 05:33 | <bob2> | you can use a pointy clicky web things instead |
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| 05:35 | <Peng> | You can also slave off of Linode's DNS servers if you want to for some reason. |
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| 05:42 | <DephNet[Paul]> | how would slave support fail? |
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| 05:43 | <Peng> | DephNet[Paul]: Context please? |
| 05:43 | <DephNet[Paul]> | the only way i can see if failing is if the actual DNS server was borked |
| 05:43 | <Peng> | DephNet[Paul]: Is this hypothetical, or did something fail? |
| 05:44 | <DephNet[Paul]> | never mind, i misread "facilities" as "failed" |
| 05:45 | <Peng> | Oh. |
| 05:45 | <shaddai> | :-) |
| 05:45 | * | DephNet[Paul] cleans glasses |
| 05:46 | <shaddai> | Any nginx wizards? |
| 05:48 | <shaddai> | <----insert crickets here. |
| 05:48 | <DephNet[Paul]> | !ask |
| 05:48 | <linbot> | Don't ask to ask; just ASK |
| 05:48 | <shaddai> | ALRIGHT!! |
| 05:49 | <shaddai> | sheesh :-) |
| 05:49 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 05:49 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
| 05:50 | <shaddai> | in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default |
| 05:50 | <shaddai> | I've got this: |
| 05:50 | <shaddai> | location /db { root /usr/share/phpmyadmin; index index.php; } |
| 05:50 | <shaddai> | which does get me phpmyadmin |
| 05:51 | <shaddai> | but at default.com/index.php |
| 05:51 | <shaddai> | not default.com/db/index.php |
| 05:52 | <shaddai> | got any idea why? |
| 05:53 | <bitmand> | nobody know nginx here |
| 05:53 | <bitmand> | .. |
| 05:53 | <bitmand> | HAHAH! Kidding ;) |
| 05:53 | <bitmand> | I dont btw. - but I'm sure somebody here does ;) |
| 05:53 | <shaddai> | hope so. It's buggin me something serious |
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| 05:54 | <avar> | that's what you get for running experimental russian software:) |
| 05:54 | <DephNet[Paul]> | i think HoopyCat does, but does nginx have an IRC channel, eithere here on OFTC or on Freenode? |
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| 05:55 | <DephNet[Paul]> | avar, i wouldnt call nginx experimental |
| 05:55 | <shaddai> | google says #nginx is on freenode. didn't know that |
| 05:56 | <shaddai> | I'll give that a shot |
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| 06:01 | <shaddai> | eh...yeah...those #nginx guys are..um...dead. |
| 06:02 | <shaddai> | isn't it like 3 pm in russia? |
| 06:03 | <DephNet[Paul]> | shaddai, depends where in Russia you are |
| 06:04 | <shaddai> | alright...well, it was worth a shot |
| 06:04 | <shaddai> | I'll catch you guys later |
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| 06:28 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Can't find the command line php in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5037>; |
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| 07:04 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Nameserver Update Not Going Well in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5038>; |
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| 07:24 | <Peng> | Eh. |
| 07:25 | <chemosh> | Meh. |
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| 07:30 | <chesty> | Smeh. |
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| 07:56 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Disk I/O -- What is a "bad" number? in Performance and Tuning <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4678>; |
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| 07:59 | <praetorian> | HMM |
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| 07:59 | <praetorian> | seems my linode has stop responding all of a sudden |
| 07:59 | <praetorian> | interesting |
| 08:00 | <chesty> | personally i'm fascinated |
| 08:00 | <praetorian> | lish seems frozen too |
| 08:00 | <praetorian> | blah. |
| 08:01 | <praetorian> | seems there was a cpu spike |
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| 08:01 | <praetorian> | hmm |
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| 08:10 | <Peng> | praetorian: Did it get better? |
| 08:10 | <praetorian> | i shut it down |
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| 08:10 | <praetorian> | unresponsive the whole time |
| 08:10 | <Peng> | Ah. |
| 08:10 | <praetorian> | even via lish (which i thought it wouldnt/shouldnt?) |
| 08:11 | <chesty> | did you try to detach? |
| 08:11 | <Peng> | praetorian: The virtual terminal isn't magic. If the system is *totally* dead, it goes with it. |
| 08:12 | <Peng> | Anyway, crashes suck, but they usually aren't a big deal. Hopefully nothing got broken, and your previous uptime wasn't too impressive. :) |
| 08:12 | <Peng> | Now, figuring out what caused it and how to prevent it from happening again, that's the sucky part... |
| 08:12 | <praetorian> | chesty: indeed |
| 08:12 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 08:12 | <praetorian> | heh |
| 08:12 | <praetorian> | no. the uptime wasnt impressive. but the last time it died was for the same reason ;-) |
| 08:13 | <praetorian> | atleast its given me a change to upgrade the kernel and resize the disk |
| 08:13 | <Peng> | :D |
| 08:14 | <praetorian> | just glad it happened now |
| 08:14 | <praetorian> | as i was about to go to sleep. |
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| 08:27 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Running a php script to delete something in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5039>; |
| 08:28 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 08:37 | <praetorian> | exactly |
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| 08:48 | <HoopyCat> | deejoe: there doesn't appear to be anyone running the network; services was down, the channel was being flooded, and the best i got was someone suggesting you be fired for running the channel poorly. great fun. |
| 08:51 | * | HoopyCat *hugs* tjfontaine |
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| 08:53 | <samwhite> | good morning... whats the "best" way to enable/setup ufw? i've read a half dozen tutorials this morning, and each has a different approach... there was a great tutorial for Debian, but i am using Ubuntu (9.10)... |
| 08:53 | <samwhite> | in the Debian tutorial, it was very straightforward... ports to allow, etc. |
| 08:55 | <samwhite> | i basicaly want to setup my firewall, and allow SSH, SMTP, HTTP, HTTPS, IMAPS and POP3S |
| 08:56 | <samwhite> | sorry, let me clarify... there was a great linode.com Debian firewall tutorial... :) |
| 08:57 | <HoopyCat> | there's an ubuntu howto for ufw out there... let's see... |
| 08:57 | <samwhite> | https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/keeping-safe/C/firewall.html |
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| 08:57 | <HoopyCat> | https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/firewall.html |
| 08:57 | <samwhite> | i've read that, and a handful of others... but they were all pretty generic (at least to my untrained eye)... |
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| 08:58 | <samwhite> | i guess i was just looking for something that specifically mentioned how to enable XYZ posts, like the linode tut did for Debian... |
| 08:58 | <HoopyCat> | well, ufw is pretty generic... that's about all there is to it |
| 08:58 | <samwhite> | im so new to the environment, that i want to make sure i get it setup right the first time... ;) |
| 08:59 | <HoopyCat> | sudo ufw allow 22 |
| 08:59 | <samwhite> | well, im concerned about rebooting the server, and making sure the iptable content is restored, etc. |
| 08:59 | <HoopyCat> | that'll allow ssh... rinse and repeat for the other ports you need |
| 08:59 | <samwhite> | just those little "touches" that the experts know about, etc. |
| 08:59 | <samwhite> | ahh... gotcha |
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| 09:00 | <HoopyCat> | sudo ufw enable :-) |
| 09:01 | <samwhite> | well, that enables it at that time, but is there some rule i need to add that will tell ufw to start again on reboot? |
| 09:02 | <samwhite> | or am i showing how green i am here... :p |
| 09:02 | <samwhite> | pre-up iptables-restore |
| 09:02 | <samwhite> | i read that somewhere... with an appended rule? |
| 09:03 | <samwhite> | pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules |
| 09:03 | <HoopyCat> | i believe ufw handles all that. it's what makes it uncomplicated |
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| 09:04 | <samwhite> | so, i really just need to "enable" ufw, and start adding ports... |
| 09:04 | <samwhite> | well, DENY ALL, then allow the ones i want... :) |
| 09:05 | <HoopyCat> | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall has some (better, IMHO) stuff too |
| 09:07 | <samwhite> | thanks... i suppose i was just overcomplicating it... basically, i turn on the feature... close it up tight... then open the access i want (SSH, HTTP, etc.) |
| 09:08 | <samwhite> | and hope that ufw is nice enough to restore settings on reboot... :D |
| 09:09 | <getsmart> | mhhhhh |
| 09:10 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall#Basic%20Usage <--- that's all there is, and the logging line is optional :-) whether or not it starts at boot is defined in /etc/ufw/ufw.conf |
| 09:12 | <samwhite> | but isnt that only enabling access with port 22? |
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| 09:14 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: yeah, so repeat the allow line with different port numbers until adequately sated |
| 09:14 | <samwhite> | roger that... thanks again... :) |
| 09:15 | <samwhite> | and in the conf file, should i be looking for a line similar to "pre-up" i listed earlier? |
| 09:15 | <Peng> | samwhite: Don't worry about "pre-up". It will work automagically. |
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| 09:16 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: no; probably something like UFW=on |
| 09:16 | <HoopyCat> | # set to yes to start on boot |
| 09:16 | <HoopyCat> | ENABLED=no |
| 09:17 | <HoopyCat> | except, in your case, it should be ENABLED=yes :-) |
| 09:17 | <samwhite> | nice... i just found that here too: |
| 09:17 | <samwhite> | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858323 |
| 09:17 | <samwhite> | thanks folks... :) |
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| 09:17 | <samwhite> | i -love- learning curves... :) |
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| 09:18 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: esp. when it's learning that you don't have to learn much ;-) |
| 09:20 | <samwhite> | indeed... i never imagined i would be spinning up servers, and managing the things ive done so far... im a code monkey... this server admin stuff is way outside my paygrade... but i do love how powerful the command line is... :) |
| 09:21 | <HoopyCat> | i'm the exact opposite... sysadmin at heart, but now spewing some code in my spare time. good to understand both sides of the fence a bit! |
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| 09:23 | <samwhite> | agreed... scary, and a little nerve-racking... but good none-the-less... |
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| 09:27 | <HoopyCat> | woohoo, it worked |
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| 09:29 | <samwhite> | what worked? and congrats... ;) |
| 09:29 | <HoopyCat> | sitting around with bed hair, in pajama bottoms and a t-shirt with a pot leaf on it, will usually get the delivery truck to arrive early |
| 09:29 | <samwhite> | hahaha.... niiiiiiiiice |
| 09:29 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:30 | <Peng> | samwhite: Just curious, what kernel are you running? |
| 09:30 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:30 | <linbot> | http://www.summerglauonastick.co.uk |
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| 09:30 | <Peng> | samwhite: And what Ubuntu version? |
| 09:30 | <Peng> | Or, wait, Debian? |
| 09:30 | <samwhite> | peng: ubuntu 9.10 |
| 09:30 | <samwhite> | as for kernel, im afraid you've got me there... |
| 09:31 | <samwhite> | i was running debian, and tackled the firewall piece with the great linode.com tutorial... |
| 09:31 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: uname -a |
| 09:31 | <samwhite> | im now trying ubuntu, and thats the only missing piece from my own little "steps to take" guide |
| 09:32 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: it'll say something like: Linux framboise 2.6.32-linode23 #1 SMP Sat Dec 5 16:04:55 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 09:32 | <samwhite> | apologies, im havent actually spun up the linode yet... i need to blow away the debian, and fire it up this morning... |
| 09:32 | <HoopyCat> | in fact, i bet it says exactly that, but with something other than framboise |
| 09:33 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: what !! where's your sense of adventure? :-) |
| 09:33 | <HoopyCat> | SpaceHobo: does the UK really have curry delivery? |
| 09:33 | <samwhite> | hahaha... im just now firing on about half my cylinders... |
| 09:34 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:34 | <samwhite> | i will have ubuntu u and running in the next hour... ;) |
| 09:34 | <HoopyCat> | samwhite: oh, coffee hold |
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| 09:35 | <samwhite> | curious: how does the kernel come into play? |
| 09:36 | <Peng> | samwhite: What, why did I ask? |
| 09:36 | <samwhite> | or rather, why was that question asked... |
| 09:36 | <Peng> | samwhite: It wasn't about you. I've been having ufw issues on 2.6.32; was curious what your experience was. |
| 09:36 | <Peng> | Hmm, Linode's 2.6.31.5 and 2.6.32 kernels have about the same config. |
| 09:36 | <samwhite> | oooo |
| 09:37 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:37 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:38 | <samwhite> | peng: what sort of |
| 09:39 | <samwhite> | "issues" have you been having? |
| 09:39 | <Peng> | samwhite: Crying and bloodshed. |
| 09:39 | <samwhite> | *grins* |
| 09:40 | <Peng> | samwhite: On 2.6.32, it dislikes something about my config, and decides to eat all traffic. |
| 09:40 | <HoopyCat> | SpaceHobo: what happens when the queen dies? does the first person to make it across the board get promoted? |
| 09:40 | <Peng> | I wonder if using a newer Ubuntu would improve it. |
| 09:40 | <Peng> | Oh, wait, I can test that... |
| 09:40 | <Peng> | Or, well, newer ufw. |
| 09:40 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
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| 09:41 | <HoopyCat> | SpaceHobo: we're mostly a nation built on chinese and pizza delivery |
| 09:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:41 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:41 | <HoopyCat> | unrelated proof of unkemptness: http://photo.hoopycat.com/v/MiscImages/20293086209.jpg.html |
| 09:41 | <HoopyCat> | SpaceHobo: i'd like that; i enjoy curry more than chinese |
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| 09:42 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 09:43 | <HoopyCat> | SpaceHobo: that's not to say there's no other delivery choices here... we're just pretty much guaranteed pizza and chinese delivery anywhere |
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| 09:45 | <HoopyCat> | and with that, time to shower and start building the new knitting operations centre |
| 09:46 | <amitz> | heh, I thought all those talk about ufw at a glance was a joke about unsafe for work... |
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| 09:46 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Combined business and personal use of linode: tax stuff in /dev/random <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5040>; |
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| 09:57 | <lpillow> | hello |
| 09:58 | <amitz> | too |
| 09:58 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Hardy ufw works on kernel 2.6.31.5, bombs on 2.6.32 in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5041>; |
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| 09:59 | <Peng> | <3 |
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| 10:00 | <lpillow> | I'm a linode n00b. What's the best way for me to take a snapshot of one of my linodes and store it cheaply so I can use it at a later date to create another linode? |
| 10:01 | <Peng> | lpillow: If you don't mind some downtime, you could shut down and clone your disk image in the manager (resizing it first if you don't have the space). |
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| 10:02 | <lpillow> | Should I have partitioned my disk image first then? |
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| 10:03 | <Peng> | lpillow: Partitioned? |
| 10:03 | <lpillow> | well... not used the full size available of 16128MB |
| 10:03 | <Peng> | lpillow: Like I said, resize. It's not destructive. |
| 10:03 | <amitz> | lpliu: you can do it from linode manager, assuming ext3 |
| 10:03 | <lpillow> | yes ext3 |
| 10:03 | <Peng> | (* No guarantees if you're using a raw disk image instead of the normal ext3.) |
| 10:04 | <jackson> | Has anyone been having trouble creating disk images? Since last night I haven't been able to create a disk image over 1 gig |
| 10:04 | <lpillow> | will my clone be stored on that same disk image |
| 10:04 | <amitz> | eating, let Peng do the talk :-p |
| 10:04 | <Peng> | lpillow: What do you mean? |
| 10:05 | <Peng> | lpillow: It will be a separate disk image. |
| 10:05 | <lpillow> | OK. sorry for being stupid here. |
| 10:05 | <Peng> | lpillow: It will be stored on the same server, of course, so it doesn't make much of a backup... |
| 10:05 | <amitz> | multiple disk image, you can have. |
| 10:05 | <lpillow> | ok |
| 10:05 | <lpillow> | and I'd need to use Finnix to store it offsite? |
| 10:06 | <Peng> | lpillow: You could add it to your config profile and transfer it from within your normal Linode environment. |
| 10:06 | <amitz> | any other image who can mount that image will do. |
| 10:08 | <lpillow> | does that cost more to add it to my config profile? |
| 10:08 | <amitz> | no |
| 10:09 | <lpillow> | another dumb question |
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| 10:09 | <lpillow> | what is and how to I view my configuration profile |
| 10:09 | <amitz> | Peng: explain profile |
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| 10:10 | <amitz> | no dumb question, only asshole answerer ;-) |
| 10:10 | <lpillow> | haha |
| 10:11 | <lpillow> | I'm currently transferring from slicehost here and just want to get things setup correctly |
| 10:12 | <Peng> | Oh crap, I suck at explaining things. |
| 10:12 | <lpillow> | that's fine. I suck at doing things |
| 10:12 | <Peng> | That's a bad combination! :D |
| 10:12 | <lpillow> | haha |
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| 10:13 | <lpillow> | we'll be fine |
| 10:13 | <amitz> | !library linode platform manager |
| 10:13 | <Peng> | lpillow: It's the first link in the main page of the manager, "My Lovely Ubuntu 9.10 Profile" or whatever, where you manage stuff like the kernel and /dev/xvd* entries. |
| 10:13 | <linbot> | amitz: 1. Beginner's Guide (http://bitl.in/ty9ba) - 2. Migrate a Server to Your Linode (http://bitl.in/ze6u) - 3. Cloning a Linode (http://bitl.in/1ls) |
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| 10:13 | <lpillow> | rather than asking a bunch of one off questions let me explain what I'm trying to do first |
| 10:13 | <Peng> | lpillow: Just set an unused device node to the extra image. |
| 10:13 | <Peng> | lpillow: Ah, ok. |
| 10:14 | <lpillow> | I suck at sysadmin - learning, but do it so infrequently that I'm always having to relearn |
| 10:14 | <lpillow> | so I want to put in the time to get a "solid" baseline image built |
| 10:15 | <lpillow> | then from there have that stored off so I can use that to bolt on specific configurations etc.. in the future when I want either new nodes or I want to start over or try something new |
| 10:16 | <adj> | lpillow: whats wrong with the stock distro as a baseline? |
| 10:16 | <Remag> | Is there anything that I can use that will monitor a java app from the web, Easily start / stop the service? |
| 10:16 | <Remag> | Using CentOS |
| 10:17 | <amitz> | lpillow: see the bit on cloning a linode about 10 messages above |
| 10:17 | <lpillow> | adj: nothing really, but I'd like to already have so much of my config done when I start new |
| 10:17 | <lpillow> | I'll do that amitz |
| 10:17 | <lpillow> | thanks for your help everyone |
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| 10:18 | <adj> | lpillow: perhaps you would be better off storing the config deltas and not the whole disk image... |
| 10:18 | <lpillow> | prolly so |
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| 10:20 | <jackson> | Remag, nagios is kinda the standard for that sort of thing |
| 10:20 | <straterra> | zenoss > nagios |
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| 10:21 | <adj> | straterra: no way man =) unless > means better UI |
| 10:21 | <straterra> | Oh, yes way |
| 10:21 | <straterra> | It's WAY more flexible and powerful |
| 10:21 | <straterra> | And you can load nagios plugins in to it |
| 10:21 | <adj> | how does it handle circular routes? like ospf routing paths? |
| 10:21 | <Remag> | Jacson, will is start / restart an app? |
| 10:22 | <straterra> | Perfectly fine |
| 10:22 | <straterra> | We use OSPF here as our primary routing protocol..and it actually paths them quite nicely |
| 10:24 | <adj> | ok. i'm not going to keep debating it =) |
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| 10:24 | <jackson> | Remag, yes. but it's not really trivial to set up |
| 10:24 | <Remag> | I was looking for something hopefully free... haha |
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| 10:25 | <Null_> | $180 per resource per year? |
| 10:25 | <adj> | Remag: monit. |
| 10:25 | <Remag> | Ya, I was looking at their website adj. I just didn't know if it would allow me to start / restart a java app |
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| 10:26 | <straterra> | zenoss is free o.O |
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| 10:46 | <Null_> | straterra: how big an environment you monitoring with zenoss? |
| 10:46 | <straterra> | An international corporation and all of its servers and services :P |
| 10:47 | <Null_> | cool, not trying to bash it, just curious how it performs in large installs. We use nagios here, and see some eventual bottlenecks. |
| 10:48 | <straterra> | It's a bit CPU hungry, but haven't had any issues having it scale |
| 10:48 | <straterra> | The main issue with it is distro support. It's tailored for enterprise distros, not every distro |
| 10:49 | <Null_> | it can be distributed across multiple machines I assume? |
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| 10:49 | <straterra> | You have a centralized server and multiple agent servers, if you want |
| 10:49 | <straterra> | Like..an agent at each location that actually sends data/queries to the servers. Then the main server and the agents talk if there is an issue |
| 10:50 | <straterra> | You can do that if you have to keep the network chatter down across your WAN |
| 10:50 | <Null_> | right yeah, similar to nagios and its active/passive checks. Well, the interface is nicer in zenoss at least :) |
| 10:51 | <straterra> | zenoss is also more sane |
| 10:51 | <straterra> | You can put in maintenance windows (I have one during our backup schedule to keep pages quiet) |
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| 10:52 | <straterra> | It also replaces cacti and does performance graphing of damn near anything |
| 10:52 | <straterra> | It'll generate network maps and show you network dependencies of things. |
| 10:53 | <straterra> | I use it to even page when our printers get low on ink..and I graph the paper/ink usage of the printers for reports for the ordering people |
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| 10:53 | <straterra> | It's just made the monitering so much easier to manage and organize |
| 10:54 | <Solver> | nice |
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| 10:55 | <Solver> | I played around this weekend with nagiosgrapher but I think Zenoss is the way forward for me |
| 10:55 | <Solver> | I've used nagios since it was called netsaint but I think a change is in order |
| 10:58 | <Bohemian> | HoopyCat: you here? |
| 10:58 | <Solver> | ah strike that I was thinking of Zabbix |
| 10:59 | <Peng> | SelfishMan: ping |
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| 11:06 | <amitz> | Bohemian: HoopyCat is available for US$150 per hour ;-) |
| 11:06 | <mwalling> | amitz: pimping cats now? |
| 11:06 | <amitz> | the before grace from him was just to make you hooked and wanting more muahaha |
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| 11:07 | <amitz> | mwalling: anything goes. I pimp walls too. |
| 11:08 | <amitz> | you don't know what's in demand these days. |
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| 11:29 | <Null_> | yikes, apparently enom dns is down. Thats a lot of affected domains. |
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| 11:47 | <Null_> | 2nd largest registrar, wonder what kind of zone file #'s they've actually got. |
| 11:48 | <Peng> | I already said this elsewhere, but: this is why people should use 2 DNS providers... |
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| 12:14 | <JshWright> | uh oh... someone's Linode showed up in my DenyHosts report |
| 12:14 | <Battousai> | wasn't mine |
| 12:16 | <JshWright> | the IP in question doesn't appear to be up anyway, so perhaps someone else got to them first |
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| 12:22 | <JshWright> | stan_theman: you rock |
| 12:22 | <HoopyCat> | up up up up up up up up, and down down down down down down down down |
| 12:22 | <HoopyCat> | but in the end it's only round and round |
| 12:23 | <TheFirst> | up down up down left right left right a b a b select start? |
| 12:23 | <Daevien> | i can somehow picture hoopycat as a sleazy lounge singer |
| 12:23 | <amitz> | TheFirst: what version is that? |
| 12:24 | <amitz> | although at the end, I finally reached a game play level where I don't need it anymore ;-) |
| 12:24 | <stan_theman> | JshWright: :) |
| 12:24 | <TheFirst> | couldn't tell ya ... not the konami code but it's ingrained in my memory from some game |
| 12:25 | <Pryon> | you kids and your nintendos |
| 12:25 | <Null_> | TMNT |
| 12:25 | <Daevien> | contra |
| 12:26 | <JshWright> | it's always nice getting an actual reply back regarding an abuse report, rather than the typical "This is an automated reply to tell you taht we have received your report, don't expect to hear back from us" |
| 12:26 | <Pryon> | JshWright: Usually linode's reply is "Yeah, we were on that a long time ago. You're so slow!" |
| 12:26 | <JshWright> | Daevien: dancing? ;)\ |
| 12:27 | <stan_theman> | I've got your back! |
| 12:27 | <stan_theman> | :p |
| 12:27 | <JshWright> | Pryon: that's pretty much what is was (phrased a little nicer) |
| 12:28 | <stan_theman> | heh |
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| 12:30 | <haroldramis> | hello all. very generic question: any preference between ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10? spinning up a new test linode, and am not knowledgeable enough to know the difference. |
| 12:31 | <JshWright> | haroldramis: either use 8.04, or 9.10 |
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| 12:31 | <JshWright> | 9.10 will be supported until April 2011, 8.04 will be supported until April 2013 |
| 12:32 | <haroldramis> | roger that... i was just trying to "save" some diskspace, and given the (almost double) size of 9.10, i thought i would ask... :) |
| 12:32 | <JshWright> | if you can wait a few months, 10.04 will be out, which will be supported until April 2015 |
| 12:32 | <JshWright> | sticking with the LTS releases isn't a bad idea when it comes to servers |
| 12:33 | <JshWright> | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases |
| 12:34 | <haroldramis> | understood... thanks! |
| 12:36 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:36 | <mwalling> | the disk image may not have been shrunk down as much |
| 12:37 | <mwalling> | the sizes of the distros are kind of pointless IMO |
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| 12:39 | <JshWright> | SpaceHobo: so will 9.10 |
| 12:39 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:39 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:43 | <haroldramis> | thanks... i think ill opt for 9.10 then - newer is always better, right? ;) |
| 12:45 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:45 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:45 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:46 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:46 | <vulcan> | hah, I never noticed that |
| 12:46 | <vulcan> | I always thought the version numbering was bizzare |
| 12:48 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:48 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:48 | <haroldramis> | good to know... thanks again... |
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| 12:48 | <Pryon> | haroldramis: please don't make a new Ghostbusters movie |
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| 12:56 | <haroldramis> | curses! |
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| 12:58 | <grawity> | slang? |
| 12:58 | <SpaceHobo> | <redacted> |
| 12:59 | <haroldramis> | sorry, and in "curses, foiled again!"... my plot to release GhostBuster V... :p |
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| 13:01 | <cdanzig> | hey guys |
| 13:01 | <cdanzig> | anyone in here? |
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| 13:02 | <cdanzig> | heeelllooooo? |
| 13:02 | <JshWright> | !ask |
| 13:02 | <linbot> | Don't ask to ask; just ASK |
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| 13:02 | <cdanzig> | I want to clone a linode.. is this possible? |
| 13:02 | <JshWright> | sure |
| 13:02 | <cdanzig> | if so.. how? |
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| 13:03 | <jackson> | cdanzig, Settings & Utilities |
| 13:04 | <jackson> | Cline this Linode |
| 13:04 | <jackson> | err, Clone |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | http://library.linode.com/linode-manager/clone-linode |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | GASP! |
| 13:04 | <cdanzig> | awesome |
| 13:04 | <JshWright> | http://blog.linode.com/2007/11/16/clone-a-linode-to-another-linode/ |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | first google hit for "clone linode": http://blog.linode.com/2007/11/16/clone-a-linode-to-another-linode/ |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | GASP! |
| 13:05 | * | mwalling goes back to work |
| 13:05 | <cdanzig> | but google doesnt deliver answers with your sense of style |
| 13:05 | <cdanzig> | GASP! |
| 13:05 | <jackson> | i am disappointed that no one used lmgtfy.com |
| 13:05 | <JshWright> | jackson: I was about to, but mwalling beat me with the google link, and it seemed redundant after that |
| 13:05 | <mwalling> | jackson: i was trying to baconlicio.us the google search |
| 13:06 | <jackson> | haha |
| 13:06 | <mwalling> | i'm out of coffee! |
| 13:06 | <mwalling> | GASP! |
| 13:09 | * | Nivex mashes the Big Red Button (tm) |
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| 13:09 | <Nivex> | get this man coffee, stat! |
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| 13:12 | <Pryon> | mwalling: do they make good coffee at work? If so, just another reason to hate you. |
| 13:14 | <JshWright> | I've never heard of an office with good coffee |
| 13:15 | <JshWright> | sadly, there's no good way to make decent coffee in an office (since I suspect my office mates would complain at the noise of a "real" grinder) |
| 13:15 | <Pryon> | They must not drink coffee, then |
| 13:16 | <Null_> | we've got beans/grinder ect. here. The company spent a fair bit of effort doing taste comparisons ect. before deciding on who to go with. No idea how much it costs, probably too much. |
| 13:16 | <JshWright> | well, they think they do... |
| 13:17 | <Pryon> | ah |
| 13:17 | <mwalling> | Pryon: fuck no |
| 13:18 | <jackson> | So you guys might be interested in this. It's a tool I've been working on to deploy images (in this case one created with Suse Studio) to nodes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt3jcL8tAo0 (you guys are the first to see this btw) |
| 13:18 | <mwalling> | Pryon: ive got a kurieg in the basement that was victim to a ... long story. i'm thinking about bringing that in |
| 13:19 | <JshWright> | if the coffee has been ground more than 20 seconds before brewing, it's not worth drinking </snob> |
| 13:19 | <Pryon> | screencast by Woody Allen |
| 13:19 | <mwalling> | JshWright: what if it was ground then packed in a sealed single serve cup with N2 displacement? |
| 13:20 | <jackson> | Pryon, ignore the music, i just haven't done audio yet :) |
| 13:20 | <Pryon> | No way. The music's the best part |
| 13:20 | <JshWright> | mwalling: it's more than just oxidation |
| 13:20 | <mwalling> | JshWright: have you ever had a k-cup? |
| 13:21 | <JshWright> | mwalling: yep, the EMS break room at one of the local hospitals has one... I tried it once and wasn't impressed |
| 13:21 | <mwalling> | wait, what kind cup> |
| 13:21 | <JshWright> | I don't remember, "Our Blend" or somesuch... |
| 13:21 | <mwalling> | i've found the taste very polarizing... tully's sucks ass, GM dark magic is amazing |
| 13:24 | <Pryon> | jackson: Very cool. Any plans to allow use iwith arbitrary images or does it depend on suse studio metadata? |
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| 13:24 | <jackson> | Pryon, technically it should work with any image |
| 13:25 | <jackson> | I just haven't done a lot of testing yet |
| 13:26 | <haroldramis> | hmm... any reason why im unable to restart sshd with /etc/init.d/sshd restart (on ubuntu 9.10) |
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| 13:26 | <haroldramis> | "no sucn file or directory" |
| 13:26 | <haroldramis> | such* |
| 13:27 | <JshWright> | did you try /etc/init.d/ssh ? |
| 13:27 | <haroldramis> | my public/private keys are working properly wiht PuTTY, but now that ive edited the conf file, i want to restart.. no joy |
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| 13:28 | <JshWright> | /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 13:28 | <haroldramis> | jshwright: will do... |
| 13:28 | <JshWright> | (I'm assuming you're logged in via lish) |
| 13:29 | <mwalling> | JshWright: restart wont kill running processes |
| 13:29 | <haroldramis> | eesh... |
| 13:29 | <haroldramis> | start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 2066: Operation not permitted |
| 13:29 | <haroldramis> | Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
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| 13:30 | <haroldramis> | do i need to copy my key from /home/me to /etc/ssh ... |
| 13:30 | <JshWright> | haroldramis: are you trying that as sudo/root? |
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| 13:31 | <JshWright> | mwalling: yeah... I just don't trust computers |
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| 13:31 | <haroldramis> | i am trying as sudo... i added my username via myname ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 13:32 | <haroldramis> | ive been told to do things like "PermitRootLogin no" etc. , so i created my account with root privilidges... i thought |
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| 13:37 | <haroldramis> | ive logged in with my user account, and executed sudo commands successfully... |
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| 13:38 | <straterra> | !dns git.fuhell.com |
| 13:38 | <linbot> | straterra: 207.192.71.71 |
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| 13:46 | <haroldramis> | looks like i had to enter "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" |
| 13:51 | <JshWright> | did I say taht like 20 minutes ago? |
| 13:51 | <JshWright> | s/taht/that/ |
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| 13:55 | <haroldramis> | jshwright: yes, but i dont think with sudo... |
| 13:56 | <JshWright> | 13:30 < JshWright> haroldramis: are you trying that as sudo/root? |
| 13:56 | <haroldramis> | that command worked when i was logged in as root... |
| 13:56 | <haroldramis> | that command worked when i was logged in as root... |
| 13:56 | <haroldramis> | oops... |
| 13:56 | <haroldramis> | i am logged in as a regular user, with root rights... if i understand the lingo correctly... |
| 13:56 | <haroldramis> | visudo |
| 13:57 | <JshWright> | you need to preface any command you want to run with elevated rights with "sudo" |
| 13:57 | <haroldramis> | myname ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 13:57 | <JshWright> | right, that means you get to use sudo to run commands |
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| 13:57 | <JshWright> | you still need to type "sudo" in front of those commands if you want them to be run as root |
| 13:57 | <haroldramis> | roger that... i noticed that as well when trying to nano conf files... :) |
| 13:58 | <haroldramis> | i was editing all day long... try to save, and BLAMO... ;) |
| 13:58 | <haroldramis> | i had to sudo nano |
| 13:58 | <JshWright> | so save it as a different file, then sudo cp it into place |
| 13:58 | <haroldramis> | and now i know... *shooting star across the screen* |
| 13:58 | <haroldramis> | ;) |
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| 13:59 | <haroldramis> | aye... im starting to get the hang of it... at least some of these more rudimentary tasks... |
| 14:00 | <haroldramis> | so, with regards to ufw, which ive now configured... should i be concerned with a rule like this: |
| 14:00 | <Incarnadine> | Has anyone noticed locale issues with running aptitude on a default Debian 5.0.3 deployment, and if so what the fix is? |
| 14:00 | <haroldramis> | To: 22 Action: ALLOW From: ANYWHERE |
| 14:00 | <mwalling> | !locales |
| 14:00 | <linbot> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3264 |
| 14:00 | <mwalling> | Incarnadine: try that |
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| 14:01 | <haroldramis> | the "anywhere" part is where im unclear |
| 14:01 | <Incarnadine> | mwalling, Thanks. |
| 14:01 | <haroldramis> | i added ruels for 22, 25, 80, 443, 993 and 995 |
| 14:01 | <haroldramis> | rules* |
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| 14:03 | -!- | negative|away is now known as negative |
| 14:09 | <haroldramis> | whoa! so i just blew away a test debian linode, and have been working on this ubuntu version... |
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| 14:09 | <haroldramis> | i thought i would have to redo all my DNS settings, but no.. all the info. is still there! :) |
| 14:09 | <haroldramis> | +1 for linode.com... :D |
| 14:10 | <haroldramis> | of course, that probably just shows my ignorance in all things server... |
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| 14:18 | <straterra> | !http |
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| 14:24 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Help installing Postfix on CentOS - Null Client in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5026>; |
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| 14:43 | <SelfishMan> | Peng: urmom |
| 14:44 | <straterra> | !dns6 |
| 14:44 | <linbot> | straterra: Usage: !dns6 name [type [class]] |
| 14:44 | <straterra> | !dns6 git.fuhell.com |
| 14:44 | <linbot> | straterra: 207.192.71.71 |
| 14:44 | <straterra> | erhm |
| 14:44 | <straterra> | No |
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| 14:45 | -!- | negative is now known as negative|away |
| 14:45 | <straterra> | !dns6 git.fuhell.com AAAA |
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| 14:45 | -!- | negative|away is now known as negative |
| 14:45 | <linbot> | straterra: The query name does not exist. |
| 14:45 | <mwalling> | !dig git.fuhell.com AAAA |
| 14:45 | <straterra> | ... |
| 14:45 | <linbot> | mwalling: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION fuhell.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.fuhell.com. straterra.fuhell.com. 2009101202 28800 7200 864000 86400 |
| 14:45 | <straterra> | I..don't see an answer |
| 14:45 | <mwalling> | !dig git.fuhell.com ANY |
| 14:45 | <linbot> | mwalling: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION fuhell.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.fuhell.com. straterra.fuhell.com. 2009101202 28800 7200 864000 86400 |
| 14:45 | <mwalling> | !dig fuhell.com ANY |
| 14:45 | <linbot> | mwalling: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: fuhell.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.fuhell.com. straterra.fuhell.com. 2009101202 28800 7200 864000 86400 | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION |
| 14:45 | <TheFirst> | straterra: probably because there isn't one? |
| 14:45 | <straterra> | Yes there is |
| 14:46 | <straterra> | git.fuhell.com is a CNAME |
| 14:46 | <straterra> | Just directly queried the name server thats authoritative for fuhell.com..it has it |
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| 14:48 | <TheFirst> | straterra: linode's nameservers are listed as authoritate and don't have the record |
| 14:48 | <straterra> | !dig @207.192.71.71 git.fuhell.com AAAA |
| 14:48 | <linbot> | straterra: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 14:51 | <straterra> | I wonder.. |
| 14:51 | <straterra> | !dig 109.74.194.10 |
| 14:51 | <linbot> | straterra: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION . 86400 IN SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2010011100 1800 900 604800 86400 |
| 14:51 | <straterra> | Assigned to Linode |
| 14:52 | <TheFirst> | and? |
| 14:52 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Enable cut & paste in Centos 5 ? in Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5031>; |
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| 15:02 | -!- | negative is now known as negative|away |
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| 15:02 | <Big-Mama> | I have a Ubuntu 32-bit server running, how can I make that accesible from the internet? |
| 15:03 | <Big-Mama> | I believe getting it a static ip adress instead of dhcp is what I need to do, or? |
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| 15:03 | <CaptainBriney> | You're talking about your linode, right? |
| 15:03 | -!- | Guest1700 is now known as dcraig |
| 15:03 | <CaptainBriney> | It's already accessible to the internet. |
| 15:04 | <CaptainBriney> | You don't have to change it to static if you don't want to. |
| 15:04 | <Big-Mama> | No, it's not my linode. I have a Linode, but I'm trying to achieve the same effect at home. |
| 15:04 | -!- | dcraig is now known as Guest1704 |
| 15:04 | <CaptainBriney> | aah |
| 15:04 | <CaptainBriney> | okay |
| 15:04 | -!- | negative|away is now known as negative |
| 15:04 | <CaptainBriney> | do you have a firewall or a router at all? |
| 15:04 | <Big-Mama> | Is that a "nono" in here? Sorry if it is :/ |
| 15:04 | <Big-Mama> | Yes I do, I have a modem and a WiFi router. |
| 15:05 | <Big-Mama> | It's connected to my wifi router. |
| 15:05 | <Big-Mama> | It's a 3Com by the way (I hate it). |
| 15:05 | <CaptainBriney> | No, I'll tell you, but just so you know it's usually against your ISP's EULA |
| 15:05 | <CaptainBriney> | what services are you going to run off of it? |
| 15:05 | <Big-Mama> | Ooh, that I didn't know! |
| 15:06 | <CaptainBriney> | apache? |
| 15:06 | <Big-Mama> | I have an Apache, irssi, rtorrent, the usual stuff :) |
| 15:06 | <CaptainBriney> | who is your ISP/ |
| 15:06 | <CaptainBriney> | they might have a problem with it if a lot of people start to connect to it, but they will probably send you a shut it off letter. |
| 15:06 | <Pryon> | (s)he may live in a country where the ISPs aren't poopy |
| 15:07 | <CaptainBriney> | yeah |
| 15:07 | <Big-Mama> | hmm, it's Telenor |
| 15:07 | <CaptainBriney> | but anyway, to get a static ip, open up /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:07 | <Big-Mama> | But I doubt it's a problem. |
| 15:07 | <Big-Mama> | sudo nano I take it then. |
| 15:07 | <CaptainBriney> | yeah or sudo vi |
| 15:07 | <CaptainBriney> | doesn't matter |
| 15:07 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:07 | <CaptainBriney> | or any text editor lol |
| 15:07 | <CaptainBriney> | and it will say auto eth0 |
| 15:07 | <Big-Mama> | Hehe, sorry, kind of new :) |
| 15:08 | <CaptainBriney> | iface eth0 inet dchp |
| 15:08 | <CaptainBriney> | dhcp* |
| 15:08 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:08 | <CaptainBriney> | np lol :) |
| 15:08 | <joshuak> | launching PuTTY is suddenly giving me "PuTTY Fatal Error: Server unexpectedly closed network connection" |
| 15:08 | <joshuak> | :( |
| 15:08 | <CaptainBriney> | :( |
| 15:08 | <CaptainBriney> | Joshuak: on your linode? reboot it or oob connect |
| 15:08 | <Big-Mama> | yep |
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| 15:08 | <CaptainBriney> | anyway big-mama |
| 15:09 | <Big-Mama> | should I outcomment anything? |
| 15:09 | <CaptainBriney> | change dhcp to static |
| 15:09 | <CaptainBriney> | no |
| 15:09 | <SevenEleven> | hey |
| 15:09 | <CaptainBriney> | so it should look like iface eth0 inet static |
| 15:09 | <Big-Mama> | what line do I need to change? |
| 15:09 | <CaptainBriney> | and then you have to add three lines to it |
| 15:09 | <joshuak> | captainbriney: yes, brand new linode... well, new install as of this morning. i just rebooted as well. |
| 15:09 | <SevenEleven> | what's the CPU speed on a Linode 360 plan? |
| 15:09 | <CaptainBriney> | okay |
| 15:10 | <joshuak> | and "oob connect"? |
| 15:10 | <@tasaro> | light |
| 15:10 | <CaptainBriney> | Out of Band access |
| 15:10 | <CaptainBriney> | look up lish |
| 15:10 | <CaptainBriney> | okay so underneath auto eth0 |
| 15:10 | <joshuak> | via the console from linode.com im guessing... |
| 15:10 | <azaghal> | Is it required a rock band, or some other genre? :) |
| 15:10 | <joshuak> | ill look into it... |
| 15:10 | <CaptainBriney> | it should say iface eth0 inet static |
| 15:10 | <CaptainBriney> | instead of iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 15:11 | <Big-Mama> | done |
| 15:11 | <Big-Mama> | =) |
| 15:11 | <CaptainBriney> | kk |
| 15:11 | <CaptainBriney> | now you need to add three lines |
| 15:11 | <CaptainBriney> | address, gateway, and netmask |
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| 15:11 | <CaptainBriney> | for address, put the static ip address that you want your server to have on the local intranet |
| 15:11 | <CaptainBriney> | so like 192.168.x.x |
| 15:12 | <Big-Mama> | yeah, can I keep the ip it already has on the lan? |
| 15:12 | <Big-Mama> | Now it's 192.168.1.68 |
| 15:12 | <Big-Mama> | I'll just keep that then. |
| 15:12 | <CaptainBriney> | yes you can. |
| 15:12 | <JshWright> | might be easier (and safer) to set up a static lease in your router |
| 15:12 | <CaptainBriney> | yeah probably actually |
| 15:12 | <JshWright> | that was the router won't try to assign that IP to someone else while you're not looking |
| 15:13 | <Big-Mama> | Nah, this is just a little project of mine, not a big thing. |
| 15:13 | <Big-Mama> | Not so important. |
| 15:13 | <CaptainBriney> | I don't know how to do that with his router so... haha |
| 15:13 | <CaptainBriney> | anyway |
| 15:13 | <CaptainBriney> | so put under address the word gateway and then 192.168.1.1 |
| 15:13 | <Big-Mama> | just forget that, I have htpwd the rtgui should be okay :P |
| 15:13 | <CaptainBriney> | because your router is assigning a 1.x dchp right? |
| 15:13 | <CaptainBriney> | dhcp* |
| 15:13 | <JshWright> | well, then he should make sure he's sets a static address outside the range of addresses assigned by the router |
| 15:14 | <cluelesslinodenewb> | is there a security to do checklist for servers? |
| 15:14 | <Big-Mama> | Actually, to be honest, I have no clue what dhcp is. |
| 15:14 | <Big-Mama> | I'm that big of a noob. |
| 15:14 | <cluelesslinodenewb> | i know what it is haha |
| 15:14 | <TheFirst> | sounds like a bit of googling is in order |
| 15:14 | <cluelesslinodenewb> | tht was it though mamma |
| 15:14 | <CaptainBriney> | dhcp is the way that devices like routers assign ip addresses to computers or printers or whatever that is connecting to them |
| 15:15 | <mwalling> | dynamic host control protocol |
| 15:15 | <Big-Mama> | Aha, I see. |
| 15:15 | <CaptainBriney> | anyway under gateway put netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 15:15 | <CaptainBriney> | save quit |
| 15:15 | <TheFirst> | configuration protocol |
| 15:15 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:15 | <CaptainBriney> | lol |
| 15:15 | <mwalling> | clsoe enough |
| 15:15 | <mwalling> | and normal routers dont do dhcp. SOHO boxes do, but SOHO boxes also will make toast |
| 15:15 | <TheFirst> | mwalling: suppose you say that when you wake up after a night of drinking next to a goat, huh? |
| 15:16 | <Big-Mama> | http://pastie.org/774025 |
| 15:16 | <Big-Mama> | That's my file anyhow. |
| 15:16 | <mwalling> | TheFirst: my pandora tab as teleported 800,000,000 goats |
| 15:16 | <Big-Mama> | Right CaptainBriney, saved and im back on the commandline. |
| 15:16 | <JshWright> | that's a lotta goats |
| 15:16 | <CaptainBriney> | put the word address in front of 192.168.1.68 |
| 15:16 | <JshWright> | how are you going to pay for all those teleporation services? |
| 15:16 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:16 | <CaptainBriney> | open it again lol |
| 15:17 | <CaptainBriney> | put the word address in front of 192.168.1.68 |
| 15:17 | <mwalling> | JshWright: google provides it for me |
| 15:17 | <mwalling> | now if only i can land a free nexus one |
| 15:17 | <Big-Mama> | Yep CaptainBriney, all done :) |
| 15:17 | <CaptainBriney> | kk now save and quit again |
| 15:17 | <Big-Mama> | done =) |
| 15:17 | <straterra> | What currency has the symbol of like a backwards e, with two lines in the middle? |
| 15:18 | <CaptainBriney> | now type in sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 15:18 | <JshWright> | mwalling: that didn't stop this user from having to pay for the teleportations: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=31482 |
| 15:18 | <azaghal> | straterra: Euro? |
| 15:18 | <mwalling> | ok, did this get on reddit or something? |
| 15:18 | <Big-Mama> | * Reconfiguring network interfaces... |
| 15:18 | <mwalling> | bd_ showed us that this morning |
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| 15:18 | <Big-Mama> | Kind of frooze :P |
| 15:18 | <mwalling> | (not here) |
| 15:18 | <JshWright> | mwalling: I think I saw it on HN |
| 15:18 | <Big-Mama> | And I got disconnected from ssh. |
| 15:18 | <JshWright> | I don't reddit |
| 15:18 | <CaptainBriney> | give it a sec |
| 15:18 | <Big-Mama> | Should I just reconnect? |
| 15:18 | <JshWright> | (or digg) |
| 15:19 | <Big-Mama> | okay |
| 15:19 | <CaptainBriney> | are you ssh'ing into it? |
| 15:19 | <CaptainBriney> | ... |
| 15:19 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:19 | <CaptainBriney> | lol |
| 15:19 | <Big-Mama> | yeah |
| 15:19 | <mwalling> | i dont do either, unless i'm really bored, then i'll do HN first, then reddit if i'm not satisfied |
| 15:19 | <Big-Mama> | but I can switch to keyboard, no problemo |
| 15:19 | <CaptainBriney> | kk if it froze it's probably because it's messed up and disconnected you |
| 15:20 | <Big-Mama> | well, i dont think it froze. |
| 15:20 | <Big-Mama> | Im back in anyway. |
| 15:20 | <CaptainBriney> | type in ifconfig |
| 15:20 | <Big-Mama> | okay |
| 15:20 | <CaptainBriney> | what happened |
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| 15:20 | <stanix> | !mail |
| 15:20 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:20 | <Big-Mama> | hang on, need to go over there lol |
| 15:21 | <CaptainBriney> | did you get a bunch of stuff on your screen or did it just give you a command prompt again |
| 15:21 | <CaptainBriney> | kk |
| 15:21 | -!- | oru_work_ is now known as oru_work |
| 15:21 | <stanix> | i need some info on configuring smtp server |
| 15:21 | <Big-Mama> | it gave me a bunch of stuff |
| 15:22 | <stanix> | (i have ubuntu installed on linode vps account) |
| 15:22 | <CaptainBriney> | type in sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart again. does it say FAIL or OK? |
| 15:22 | <Big-Mama> | ssh or keyboard? :P |
| 15:23 | <CaptainBriney> | keyboard for now |
| 15:23 | <Big-Mama> | okay |
| 15:23 | <Big-Mama> | lets see |
| 15:23 | <Big-Mama> | gave me an o |
| 15:23 | <Big-Mama> | ok* |
| 15:24 | <Big-Mama> | Or rather a [OK] |
| 15:24 | <CaptainBriney> | okay you should be set then |
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| 15:25 | <Big-Mama> | Good stuff :) |
| 15:25 | <CaptainBriney> | so now you have a static ip address on your server |
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| 15:25 | <Big-Mama> | That easy huh? |
| 15:26 | <CaptainBriney> | now to make it accessable to the internet, imo (someone correct me if it's wrong) but the easiest way would be to port forward in your router. |
| 15:26 | <Big-Mama> | Im guessing port 80? |
| 15:26 | <CaptainBriney> | yes. |
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| 15:26 | <CaptainBriney> | I don't know how to port forward in your router, though. |
| 15:26 | <Big-Mama> | hmm, port forwarding on my router suck. |
| 15:27 | <CaptainBriney> | so you might have to figure that one out on your own |
| 15:27 | <CaptainBriney> | or do some googling |
| 15:27 | <Big-Mama> | And how can I see my static ip by the way? |
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| 15:27 | <CaptainBriney> | what do you mean |
| 15:27 | <Big-Mama> | didnt my ubuntu box just get a static ip? |
| 15:27 | <CaptainBriney> | yes |
| 15:27 | <CaptainBriney> | on your lan |
| 15:27 | <Big-Mama> | So in theory, if my port was forwarded, and someone typed that ip, they would see my apache in a browser. |
| 15:27 | <CaptainBriney> | no |
| 15:28 | <Big-Mama> | What Ip would they have to type from outside the network? |
| 15:28 | <Big-Mama> | oh, okay. |
| 15:28 | <CaptainBriney> | the ip address that your internet connection has |
| 15:28 | <CaptainBriney> | go to www.ipchicken.com |
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| 15:28 | <Big-Mama> | So my desktop computer and my linux server shares this ip? |
| 15:29 | <CaptainBriney> | effectively yes. |
| 15:29 | <CaptainBriney> | what you need to do is get into your router, and forward port 80 to your server's ip address. |
| 15:29 | <Big-Mama> | local ip? |
| 15:30 | <CaptainBriney> | you can go to your server's ip address on your desktop right now and see the apache default page or whatever you have on your server right now, but you need to have all incoming connections on port 80 forwarded to the local ip that you just set on your server |
| 15:31 | <Big-Mama> | Yep, so basically, if someone tries to reach my internet connection with port 80 they will be sent to my server? |
| 15:32 | <Big-Mama> | And one more thing CaptainBriney: Should I port forward my wifi router, or my modem? |
| 15:33 | <JshWright> | Big-Mama: from whatever device acts as your gateway |
| 15:33 | <Big-Mama> | And I take it that the gateway is the first device on my chain of network devices? |
| 15:34 | <CaptainBriney> | it would probably be on your wifi router |
| 15:34 | <JshWright> | it's the device that sits between the WAN and you LAN |
| 15:34 | <linbot> | New news from forums: can't change timezone on Fedora Core in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2856>; |
| 15:34 | <Big-Mama> | Aha, I see, I'll give it a shot and come crawling up to you guys if it fails. |
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| 15:35 | <Pryon> | "What is that think crawling up to us?" "I dunno, better kill it to be safe!" |
| 15:35 | <Pryon> | s/think/thing/ |
| 15:35 | <CaptainBriney> | haha |
| 15:35 | <Nivex> | *boom* headshot |
| 15:36 | <Big-Mama> | Hehe :P |
| 15:36 | <Big-Mama> | Is it really this simple CaptainBriney? http://www.opp.michaelmcmillan.net/Bilder/Capture01.PNG |
| 15:38 | <GhostInTheAnime> | WTF |
| 15:38 | <GhostInTheAnime> | my ISP blocks FTP connections |
| 15:38 | <Big-Mama> | *Phew* |
| 15:38 | <Big-Mama> | Thought you were commenting my printscreen. |
| 15:39 | <GhostInTheAnime> | it won't even load |
| 15:39 | <GhostInTheAnime> | now it does |
| 15:39 | <GhostInTheAnime> | .l.. |
| 15:39 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Wordpress Permalink Change - NGINX Rewrite Wanted in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5042>; |
| 15:39 | <GhostInTheAnime> | WTF |
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| 15:40 | <Big-Mama> | CaptainBriney: Should I press 'Add'? :P |
| 15:40 | <Big-Mama> | Or chuck my computer out of the window? |
| 15:43 | <mwalling> | !ftp |
| 15:43 | <linbot> | Please use SSH/SCP/SFTP/rsync-over-ssh instead of FTP: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp |
| 15:43 | <TimothyA> | could someone tell me how an ISP could prevent file uploads? :| |
| 15:44 | <mwalling> | very easilly |
| 15:44 | <TimothyA> | how? |
| 15:44 | <mwalling> | does your traffic pass through thier equipment? |
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| 15:44 | <TimothyA> | ...of course? |
| 15:44 | <mwalling> | then assume all of your traffic has been tampered with |
| 15:45 | <TimothyA> | ...but how do they know specificly what is a file upload and what isn't |
| 15:45 | <TimothyA> | I've been trying to upload text files all day |
| 15:45 | <Big-Mama> | Yeah, those texts file are so much fun! |
| 15:46 | <mwalling> | ftp is a plain text protocol |
| 15:46 | <mwalling> | they can do what ever they want with it |
| 15:46 | <TimothyA> | I'm paying wait too much to let them control what I do on the internet |
| 15:46 | <TimothyA> | s/wait/way |
| 15:46 | <mwalling> | aparently not |
| 15:46 | <TimothyA> | 300$ a month |
| 15:47 | <Pryon> | o.O |
| 15:47 | <kenichi> | holy |
| 15:47 | <Pryon> | when you say "prevent file uploads", what do you mean, *exactly*? Connection refused? |
| 15:48 | <TimothyA> | Pryon; when I try to upload a file (HTTP, FTP, HTTPS) it will start, but send nothing |
| 15:48 | <TimothyA> | and eventually time out |
| 15:48 | <mwalling> | TimothyA: someone has to pay for the cable to get data off .an |
| 15:48 | <TimothyA> | mwalling; they're getting it for free as part of a deal |
| 15:49 | <TimothyA> | the infrastructure on the island is just shot to sh*t |
| 15:49 | <TimothyA> | and people with too little minds get way too large paychecks |
| 15:50 | <TimothyA> | they put the guy who said "Uuuuh, how does the power button work" at a computer conference in charge for the CAR-IX project |
| 15:50 | <Pryon> | TimothyA: does an mtr to your target host reveal anything interesting? |
| 15:50 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon: Could you help me out a bit? |
| 15:51 | <TimothyA> | I don't have any packetsniffing tools installed atm |
| 15:51 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: My advice to you is "try it and see". Seriously. You're not going to hurt anything. You're still waiting to press the "add" button, right? |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | packet sniffing? |
| 15:51 | <Big-Mama> | Yeah, I am, like a fucking caveman. |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | MTR is hardly packet sniffing |
| 15:51 | <Big-Mama> | I'll just press it. |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | !mtr |
| 15:51 | <linbot> | mtr combines the functionality of traceroute and ping into one easy to use tool, and the output can be useful for determining where the source of a problem is. It can be downloaded from http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ or http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/ for Windows. MTR summaries can be retrieved in-channel using the command !mtr-CITY where CITY is fremont, atlanta, newark, dallas or london. |
| 15:51 | <Big-Mama> | Fuck, here goes nothing. |
| 15:52 | <TimothyA> | mwalling; I can access the target host just fine |
| 15:52 | <TimothyA> | but as soon as I do an file upload, it f*cks up |
| 15:52 | <mwalling> | thats not what was asked |
| 15:53 | <mwalling> | its not a question of do your packets get tehre, but how do your packets get there |
| 15:54 | <Big-Mama> | Right Pryon, I pressed it. |
| 15:54 | <Big-Mama> | No harm done. |
| 15:54 | <TimothyA> | nothing out of the ordinary |
| 15:54 | <Big-Mama> | But how do I check if it worked? |
| 15:54 | <TimothyA> | except that the ping is exceptionally low |
| 15:55 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: try to connect to your httpd from a remote host |
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| 15:56 | <Big-Mama> | Ah, okey. |
| 15:56 | <TimothyA> | can't see youtube videos either :| |
| 15:56 | * | mwalling thinks transparent proxies are involved |
| 15:56 | <TimothyA> | i doubt it |
| 15:57 | <TimothyA> | when I worked there, nobody knew what a proxy was and that it was a "hacker thing" |
| 15:57 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon: What IP should I reach exactely? |
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| 15:57 | <mwalling> | just because they dont know what it is doesnt mean that they bought some off the shelf equipment that a vendor installed and supporetd |
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| 15:57 | <Big-Mama> | Chickenip something? |
| 15:57 | <TimothyA> | okay, apparently I can't POST forms anymore |
| 15:57 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: whatever the external IP address of your router is |
| 15:57 | <TimothyA> | hurray |
| 15:58 | <TimothyA> | this is going to ruin my life |
| 15:58 | <Pryon> | TimothyA: sounds like a general network problem |
| 15:58 | <Big-Mama> | How do I find my external IP? |
| 15:58 | <TimothyA> | Pryon; P2P still works |
| 15:59 | <TimothyA> | is MSN up for you guys? |
| 15:59 | <Pryon> | the web site? |
| 15:59 | <Fried> | Jabber ftw |
| 15:59 | <TimothyA> | the IM service |
| 15:59 | <mwalling> | Fried: not helping |
| 15:59 | <mwalling> | [01-11][01-11] 15:59:24 <@root> 1. msn, mark@markwalling.org (connected) |
| 15:59 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: one moment |
| 15:59 | <TimothyA> | hrm |
| 15:59 | <mwalling> | based on my expierence with HughesNet, its a transparent proxy |
| 15:59 | <mwalling> | TimothyA: find an https site and try it |
| 15:59 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: are you IRCing from the machine you want to server www from? |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | Uhm, almost. |
| 16:00 | <TimothyA> | mwalling; try what? accessing or uploading to it? |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | The machine next to it. |
| 16:00 | <mwalling> | TimothyA: yes |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | On the same router. |
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| 16:00 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: are they both on the same side of the router? |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | Yes. |
| 16:00 | <mwalling> | TimothyA: try everything. they cant transparently proxy https |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | But hang on, let me irssi instead from the server |
| 16:00 | <Pryon> | !dns ti0191a340-0279.bb.online.no |
| 16:00 | <linbot> | Pryon: 88.89.100.25 |
| 16:00 | <Pryon> | there you go |
| 16:00 | <TimothyA> | ....son of a bitch |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | oh |
| 16:00 | <Big-Mama> | thats one simple ip |
| 16:01 | * | TimothyA dials a very certain phone number |
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| 16:01 | <Big-Mama> | However Pryon, entering 88.89.100.25 in my browser sends me to my speedtouch config page. |
| 16:01 | <Pryon> | 1-800-HAH-AHAH |
| 16:02 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: You have to try it from an external host to trigger the port forward |
| 16:02 | <Big-Mama> | ah, okey |
| 16:02 | <Big-Mama> | boot the 3g modem then I guess |
| 16:02 | <Big-Mama> | or |
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| 16:02 | <Pryon> | FYI, I can't connect to that IP address |
| 16:02 | <Big-Mama> | why dont you just enter the ip? |
| 16:03 | <Big-Mama> | then something is wrong I guess |
| 16:03 | <Pryon> | Well, not on port 80 |
| 16:03 | <Guest1712> | hey, has anybody successfully uploaded a ClarkConnect image to there linode in here? |
| 16:03 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon: As far as I know the port is forwarded. |
| 16:03 | <Big-Mama> | Some friend told me I had to setup my router in "bridge mode", |
| 16:04 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: As far as I know, that's irrelevant to this problem |
| 16:04 | <Big-Mama> | Okay. |
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| 16:04 | <Big-Mama> | I can see that there is a port forward tool on my speedtouch modem aswell. |
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| 16:04 | <Big-Mama> | Should I enter the same settings there? |
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| 16:05 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: What does your network look like? How many routers/"modems" do you have? |
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| 16:06 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: Also, have you confirmed that you have a web server listening? What happens if you do 'telnet localhost 80' ? |
| 16:06 | <Big-Mama> | I have one speedtouch modem that is connected to the phoneline/whatyoucallit (:P). And from there I have a LAN cable connected to a 3Com wifi router, this is where my desktop machine and server are connected. |
| 16:06 | <Big-Mama> | By entering 192.168.1.68 I reach apache. |
| 16:06 | <Big-Mama> | Guess that's proof enough, or? |
| 16:06 | <kenichi> | "LAN cable" |
| 16:06 | <Big-Mama> | Yeah, sorry. |
| 16:06 | <Big-Mama> | Bad term. |
| 16:07 | <kenichi> | funny |
| 16:07 | <tarpman> | wireless LAN cable |
| 16:08 | <Fried> | wireless lan tube |
| 16:08 | <GhostInTheAnime> | dead modem is dead |
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| 16:09 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: please paste the current version of your "virtual servers" page from your 3-com router |
| 16:09 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon: Telnet localhost 80 didnt work. |
| 16:09 | <Big-Mama> | I will. |
| 16:09 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: that's fine. You're listening on the correct interface. |
| 16:09 | <Big-Mama> | http://www.opp.michaelmcmillan.net/Bilder/Capture2.PNG |
| 16:10 | <Big-Mama> | 192.168.1.68 Web(http) 80 |
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| 16:12 | <Pryon> | That *seems* like the correct setting (although you can probably set the virtual DMZ to "off" assuming you've got nothing in the DMZ) |
| 16:12 | <Pryon> | Is there anything interesting in the logs on your router? (Try the "status and logs" link on the left) |
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| 16:13 | <Big-Mama> | Okay, switched off. |
| 16:13 | <Big-Mama> | Checking logs. |
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| 16:13 | <Pryon> | Specifically, look for messages about blocking connections to port 80 |
| 16:14 | <Big-Mama> | http://pastie.org/774086 |
| 16:14 | <Big-Mama> | Thats the entire log. |
| 16:14 | <Big-Mama> | No port 80 denials. |
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| 16:15 | <Guest1712> | im new here, but dose anyone have some time that can help me out with an issue i am having mounting a filesystem to my linode custom distro? |
| 16:16 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: on the machine with the web server, what does this return: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' |
| 16:16 | <Big-Mama> | inet addr:192.168.1.68 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 16:16 | <getsmart> | mhhhh |
| 16:16 | <Big-Mama> | ssh that is, if it matters. |
| 16:16 | <Pryon> | okay, jut making sure |
| 16:19 | <Big-Mama> | yep :) |
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| 16:20 | <Big-Mama> | Found anything interesting Pryon? |
| 16:20 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: Does your router have a setting for "log everything"? Any configural parameters at all for logging? |
| 16:20 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: It's quite possible that your ISP filters incoming connections on certain popular ports. |
| 16:20 | <Big-Mama> | No, doesnt look like it. |
| 16:21 | <Big-Mama> | The help button doesnt even execute anything. |
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| 16:21 | <joshuak> | from a security perspective, how important is it to create a user with sudo rights, and set "PermitRootLogin no" in sshd_config? |
| 16:21 | * | Pryon wonders if the speedtouch isn't also doing its own firewalling |
| 16:22 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon: I'm thinking the exact same thing. |
| 16:22 | <Pryon> | joshuak: I'd consider those orthogonal |
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| 16:22 | <Big-Mama> | Let me get you a screenshot. |
| 16:22 | <Pryon> | joshuak: That is, I think you should not permit root logins to ssh. su to root or use sudo from a regular account |
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| 16:24 | <joshuak> | ok, so approaching it from another angle... is leaving the root account "active" ok, as long as ive disabled password auth, and forced key pair auth? |
| 16:24 | <joshuak> | im looking at this from a novices perspective, and trying to implement some best practices ive been reading |
| 16:24 | <Big-Mama> | http://www.opp.michaelmcmillan.net/Bilder/Capture3.PNG |
| 16:24 | <Pryon> | I'd still disallow root login via ssh |
| 16:24 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon, check that out, |
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| 16:25 | <joshuak> | sp, disable root login, but dont create my user with ALL=(ALL) ALL |
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| 16:25 | <joshuak> | just login as the user, and sudo what i need |
| 16:25 | <joshuak> | correct? |
| 16:26 | <Big-Mama> | yes. |
| 16:26 | <Pryon> | joshuak: I'm not the best person to ask about su vs. sudo. I don't really use sudo |
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| 16:26 | <Pryon> | But connecting as the user and then elevating priveleges somehow - yes |
| 16:26 | <joshuak> | gotcha... thanks! |
| 16:26 | <Big-Mama> | Looks legit Pryon? |
| 16:27 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: My guess is that you're on the right track. However, you'll probably need to use the WAN address of the 3-com router as the device in your speedtouch setup. |
| 16:28 | <Big-Mama> | Ah, I'm too tired to deal with this atm. :P |
| 16:29 | <Big-Mama> | Anyway, thanks for you help. |
| 16:29 | <jorand> | I have uploaded a centos based distro, but get errors upon boot stating it could not mount the primary drive "The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem." but the filesystem is ext3. through my reasearch so far i have found an issue like this related to /etc/fstab being incorrect for the same distro but it dosent seem to be the issue for me, i can explain further.. but can anyone help me |
| 16:33 | <jorand> | please :) |
| 16:33 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: you're probably dealing with something like this: http://p.linode.com/3401 (look at the bottom one for less broken) |
| 16:33 | <Big-Mama> | Ah, look at that! |
| 16:34 | <Big-Mama> | Yes, looks pretty correct. |
| 16:34 | <Pryon> | I'd have to see the WAN address on the 3-com to be sure, though |
| 16:34 | <Big-Mama> | How would I obtain that? |
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| 16:35 | <Pryon> | If I had to guess (and I do), I'd say either on the "LAN settings" page or the "Internet settings" page |
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| 16:36 | <Big-Mama> | What kind of a number am I looking for here? |
| 16:36 | <Big-Mama> | Ordinary IP? |
| 16:36 | <Pryon> | Yes. However, if the 3-com is in bridge mode... |
| 16:36 | <Big-Mama> | I dont believe it is. |
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| 16:37 | <Big-Mama> | http://pastie.org/774119 |
| 16:37 | <Big-Mama> | Dont know if that helps. |
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| 16:37 | <Big-Mama> | But I cant seem to find any other IP-adress. |
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| 16:37 | <Pryon> | how did you generate that last paste? |
| 16:38 | <Big-Mama> | "Routing table". |
| 16:38 | <Big-Mama> | In the 3Com. |
| 16:39 | <Pryon> | In any case, I suggest using 192.168.1.1 as the "device" in your "assigned games & applications" page for your web server on the speedtouch |
| 16:39 | <Big-Mama> | Ah, I see what you're getting at. |
| 16:39 | <Big-Mama> | Ill try that then. |
| 16:40 | <Pryon> | lemme know when you've done it |
| 16:40 | <Big-Mama> | yep |
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| 16:40 | <Big-Mama> | working on it, seems like my speedtouch timed out |
| 16:41 | <Big-Mama> | http://88.89.100.2 |
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| 16:41 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Combined business and personal use of linode: tax stuff in /dev/random <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5040>; |
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| 16:42 | <Big-Mama> | Pryon: How did you obtain my internet connections ip? |
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| 16:42 | <Big-Mama> | Seems like it's assigned a new one |
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| 16:42 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: Sorry, I'm an idiot. 192.168.1.1 is the LAN side of the 3-com. I'm having a devil of a time trying to figure out how you can find out the WAN side. |
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| 16:43 | <Big-Mama> | I'm so thankful for you helping me out =) Thanks again! |
| 16:43 | <Pryon> | surely there's a place on the 3-com's config that shows the WAN address. |
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| 16:43 | <Pryon> | Do you happen to know the model # of that router? |
| 16:43 | <Big-Mama> | Sure, let me get it. |
| 16:44 | <Big-Mama> | 3CRWE554G72T |
| 16:44 | <Pryon> | one moment |
| 16:44 | <Big-Mama> | 3Com Officeconnect. |
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| 16:49 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: Okay, there should be a "Configuration Summary" page. Unfortunately, the manual suggests that it's only available after you run the configuration wizard (gah!) |
| 16:49 | <Pryon> | Is there nothing like that under "Status and Logs" ? |
| 16:49 | <Big-Mama> | Not a problem, I can surely run that config again. |
| 16:49 | <Big-Mama> | If it helps the case. |
| 16:50 | <Pryon> | Also, the pictures in the manual PDF have a resolution of about 12x15 and do not scale. Go 3Com! |
| 16:50 | <Big-Mama> | Yeah, this company totally sucks, I know. |
| 16:50 | <Big-Mama> | ISP Gateway Address 10.0.0.138 |
| 16:50 | <Big-Mama> | DHCP Range 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254 |
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| 16:51 | <Big-Mama> | Not that much more information. |
| 16:51 | <Big-Mama> | http://pastie.org/774143 |
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| 16:52 | <Pryon> | Ah. 10.0.0.5 |
| 16:52 | <Pryon> | er |
| 16:52 | <Pryon> | 10.0.0.4 |
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| 16:52 | <Pryon> | That's the 3-com's WAN-side address |
| 16:53 | <Big-Mama> | Ah, sorry for missing that. |
| 16:53 | <Pryon> | np |
| 16:54 | <Big-Mama> | So, thats the ip i need to enter on the speedtouch? |
| 16:54 | <Pryon> | I believe so |
| 16:54 | <Big-Mama> | Okay, Ill try that then. |
| 16:54 | <Big-Mama> | Any idea why 88.89.100.25 suddenly wont work? |
| 16:55 | <Pryon> | Well, when you restarted your speedTouch, your ISP assigned a new IP address to the external interface |
| 16:55 | <Big-Mama> | Could you find the new external IP? |
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| 16:55 | <Big-Mama> | IPChicken says 88.89.100.25 |
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| 16:56 | <Pryon> | Big-Mama: when you say "88.89.100.25 won't work", what do you mean? You're using that for your IRC connection. |
| 16:57 | <Fried> | get a linode |
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| 16:57 | <Pryon> | Yes, getting a linode would make this all go away |
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| 16:58 | <Pryon> | Plus, you could IRC from it and stay connected long enough to forget how to use irssi |
| 16:58 | <Fried> | Could it be your ISP is blocking port 80. |
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| 16:59 | <Big-Mama> | I've got a Linode. |
| 16:59 | <Pryon> | Yes, a perusal of your ISP's terms of service and acceptable use policy would probably be informational |
| 16:59 | <Big-Mama> | Anyway, I should change 192.168.1.68 to 10.0.0.4? |
| 16:59 | <Big-Mama> | In the speedtouch? |
| 17:00 | <Pryon> | probably |
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| 17:00 | <Pryon> | (that's what I would try) |
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| 17:01 | <Big-Mama> | Okay done. |
| 17:02 | <Pryon> | bingo |
| 17:02 | <Big-Mama> | Did it work? |
| 17:02 | <Pryon> | yes |
| 17:02 | <Big-Mama> | No way. |
| 17:02 | <Big-Mama> | Seriously? |
| 17:03 | <Big-Mama> | Damn, yeah, it works. |
| 17:03 | <Big-Mama> | Im shocked right now. |
| 17:03 | <Big-Mama> | Haha, oh man, thank you so much Pryon! |
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| 17:04 | <Big-Mama> | What a huge relief to check that shit off my todolist. |
| 17:04 | <Pryon> | If Norwegian ISPs turn out to be asshats, get a linode :-) |
| 17:04 | <Big-Mama> | I've got one. |
| 17:04 | <Big-Mama> | www.michaelmcmillan.net |
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| 17:05 | <Big-Mama> | Just one last step Pryon, and I will leave you in peace. |
| 17:06 | <Big-Mama> | How would I assign a more remerable domain? |
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| 17:06 | <Pryon> | How does one pronounce Å ? |
| 17:06 | <Big-Mama> | Oah. |
| 17:06 | <Big-Mama> | Almost. |
| 17:07 | <Pryon> | http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ |
| 17:07 | <Big-Mama> | Actually. |
| 17:07 | <Big-Mama> | I would like to use my personal domain, michaelmcmillan.net |
| 17:07 | <Big-Mama> | It's setup with Linode manager |
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| 17:09 | <jorand> | if you have a dns server on your linode currently ex. bind you can create a host in your domain pointing to your ip |
| 17:09 | <Pryon> | ^ |
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| 17:10 | <jorand> | which would be "whatever".michaelmcmillan.net |
| 17:10 | <Fried> | use a dyndns service, and create a CNAME to it from your Linode DNS Manager |
| 17:10 | <Fried> | I think that would be more reliable |
| 17:10 | <Pryon> | Almost certainly easier, too |
| 17:10 | <jorand> | yea, i wasnt thinking about the whole dynamic ip issue |
| 17:10 | <jorand> | sorry |
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| 17:12 | <Big-Bckup> | Hi again, had to switch computers. |
| 17:12 | <Big-Bckup> | Pryon: Did you respond to my DNS question regarding using a subdomain for my Linode domain? |
| 17:13 | <Pryon> | Yes, I pasted a link to dyndns.com, a provider of that sort of service. |
| 17:13 | <Pryon> | Fried responded with a more complete solution: < Fried> use a dyndns service, and create a CNAME to it from your Linode DNS Manager |
| 17:14 | <Big-Bckup> | Aha. |
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| 17:15 | <Big-Bckup> | So it's not as simple as forwarding www.bf17.michaelmcmillan.net to my 88 ip? |
| 17:16 | <Pryon> | What happens when your ISP gives you a new IP address? |
| 17:17 | <Big-Bckup> | I didn't think of that. |
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| 17:17 | <Big-Bckup> | So I'll get a new ip when I restart my "internet connection"? |
| 17:17 | <Pryon> | possibly |
| 17:17 | <jorand> | most leases for ip are 12/24hrs but you may keep you old one.. just depends |
| 17:18 | <jorand> | i have had the same ip for about a month |
| 17:18 | <Big-Bckup> | Still, it's not a good choice to forward everything to that adress. |
| 17:18 | <Big-Bckup> | Is it hard to setup dyndns? |
| 17:18 | <jorand> | yea, i agree completely |
| 17:18 | <Pryon> | I had the same for about a year. Then comcast was doing some major work behind the scenes and I had about a dozen different IP addresses in a month. |
| 17:18 | <jorand> | no |
| 17:19 | <jorand> | you just run a client on your computer that updates when it detects a change |
| 17:19 | <Big-Bckup> | I see. |
| 17:19 | <jorand> | dyndns offers it as a download. if you run linux. there are some scripts |
| 17:19 | <Big-Bckup> | Any guides out there? |
| 17:19 | <jorand> | oh yea severaly |
| 17:20 | <jorand> | several* sorry cant type |
| 17:20 | <mwalling> | inventing new words? |
| 17:20 | <Fried> | http://www.dyndns.com/ |
| 17:20 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:20 | <jorand> | lol |
| 17:20 | <Fried> | oops |
| 17:20 | <Fried> | i was talking in my scrollback history |
| 17:21 | * | Pryon abuses mikegrb severally |
| 17:23 | <Big-Bckup> | Which one should I choose? |
| 17:23 | <Big-Bckup> | https://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/ |
| 17:23 | <Pryon> | the free one |
| 17:24 | <Big-Bckup> | Ah, so now I can choose my own free subdomain. |
| 17:24 | <Big-Bckup> | Funny, any creative ones? |
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| 17:27 | <Pryon> | I think the list is static, which makes creativity a bit difficult |
| 17:27 | <jorand> | "just figured i would try one more time" i uploaded a distribution based on centos to my linode following the guides. but after i finsh all steps it cannot mount the root fs error "The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 |
| 17:27 | <jorand> | filesystem." but i can mount the fs in the finnix config with no issues and its ext3 not ext2. |
| 17:28 | <jorand> | any1 have any ideas, or want to help? |
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| 17:28 | * | Pryon is completely ignorant of booting custom distributions |
| 17:29 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:29 | <jorand> | lol |
| 17:29 | <jorand> | i got it to work once.. but i had to reinstall it.. sadly i didnt do anything diffrent |
| 17:30 | <Big-Bckup> | http://michael.mypets.ws/ |
| 17:30 | <Big-Bckup> | Still, that only points to the changeable ip. |
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| 17:31 | <Big-Bckup> | Ah, there it is, the DNS Updater. |
| 17:31 | <Big-Bckup> | "To keep the DNS updated with your latest IP". |
| 17:31 | <Big-Bckup> | Is that easy to install on Ubuntu Server? |
| 17:34 | <jorand> | its been a while since i have personally used them but from what i remember they installed without issues |
| 17:34 | <jorand> | they provide setup instructions for inadyn and ddclient at http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/ |
| 17:35 | * | caker is setupping |
| 17:35 | <Big-Bckup> | Yep, so I noticed. |
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| 17:38 | <straterra> | caker: Is that a trigger? |
| 17:38 | <straterra> | setup |
| 17:38 | <Guspaz|m> | caker isn't triggered, he's just random. |
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| 17:38 | <straterra> | mymom triggers him |
| 17:38 | <Guspaz|m> | !urmom |
| 17:38 | * | caker has englished good |
| 17:38 | <linbot> | Guspaz|m: The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and urmom. (830:3/1) [urmom] |
| 17:38 | <straterra> | That's why I get such a great Linode discount.. |
| 17:38 | <Guspaz|m> | !urmom vote down 830 |
| 17:38 | <straterra> | I pay with mymom |
| 17:38 | <linbot> | Guspaz|m: Voted down 830 [moumr] |
| 17:39 | <HoopyCat> | eat a dick, Guspaz|m |
| 17:39 | <straterra> | !urmom vote up 830 |
| 17:39 | <linbot> | straterra: Voted up 830 [rmoum] |
| 17:39 | <Big-Bckup> | How do I install ddclient-3.8.0 on my Ubuntu server? |
| 17:39 | <HoopyCat> | straterra: <3 |
| 17:40 | <Guspaz|m> | HoopyCat: Have any dicks in particular in mind? |
| 17:40 | <straterra> | urmom's |
| 17:40 | <tarpman> | Big-Bckup: using the package manager |
| 17:40 | <TheFirst> | Big-Bckup: man apt-get |
| 17:40 | <Big-Bckup> | So, wget the url? |
| 17:40 | <tarpman> | no. |
| 17:40 | <Big-Bckup> | Oh, is it in a rep.? |
| 17:41 | <tarpman> | Big-Bckup: it's in the repository, you don't need to get it yourself |
| 17:41 | <Big-Bckup> | apt-get install ddclient |
| 17:41 | <tarpman> | yes. |
| 17:41 | <Big-Bckup> | Nice and easy |
| 17:41 | <tarpman> | yes. |
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| 17:44 | <Big-Bckup> | http://pastie.org/774226 |
| 17:44 | <Big-Bckup> | Hmm, I got that when I installed. |
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| 17:45 | <Big-Bckup> | What should I do? |
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| 17:46 | <TheFirst> | it's telling you |
| 17:46 | <Big-Bckup> | That command? |
| 17:47 | <Big-Bckup> | I didnt quite understand what its trying to tell me to do. |
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| 17:59 | <Big-Mama> | Best application to display network/cpu/temp stats via. apache? |
| 18:01 | <Guspaz|m> | munin? |
| 18:01 | <Big-Mama> | ah, thanks |
| 18:01 | <Guspaz|m> | Example: http://fixppp.org/munin/ |
| 18:02 | <Solver> | there are lots of options thought |
| 18:02 | <Big-Mama> | so that just apperead there when you did sudo apt-get install munin-node (server) |
| 18:03 | <Big-Mama> | Do I need munin and munin-node do display statistics? |
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| 18:04 | <Guspaz|m> | If it's all on the same server, yeah, I believe so. |
| 18:04 | <Big-Mama> | okay |
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| 18:05 | <Big-Mama> | http://michael.mypets.ws/munin/localdomain/ |
| 18:06 | <Big-Mama> | Why /localdomain? :S |
| 18:06 | <Guspaz|m> | Because Munin is designed to have multiple servers reported in the one place. |
| 18:06 | <Big-Mama> | oh, okay |
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| 18:06 | <Big-Mama> | So I can link my linode up to that same munin? |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz|m> | Sigh, my workplace bans the entire ath.cx domain. |
| 18:07 | <Guspaz|m> | Yeah, you can have multiple servers linked into the one place. I've never set it up though. |
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| 18:07 | <Big-Mama> | Cool. |
| 18:07 | <Big-Mama> | How come nothing is logged yet? |
| 18:08 | <Pryon> | you probably don't want munin to update every second |
| 18:08 | <Guspaz|m> | munin updates every 5 minutes. |
| 18:09 | <Big-Mama> | is that default? |
| 18:09 | <Guspaz|m> | Yes, but last time I set it up on Ubuntu I had to take some extra step to get it working (which I didn't in the past)... I don't remember what it was, though. |
| 18:10 | <Big-Mama> | oooh |
| 18:10 | <Big-Mama> | :/ |
| 18:10 | <Big-Mama> | Thats bad news. |
| 18:10 | <Big-Mama> | Works here! :D |
| 18:11 | <Guspaz|m> | Glad to hear :) |
| 18:11 | <Big-Mama> | Any cool root index.html file? "It works!" is kind of lame. |
| 18:11 | <Guspaz|m> | Generating the graphs can take a little bit of CPU time (although I find it to be trivial), so some people like to have it gather data every 5 minutes, but generate graphs less frequently. Personally, I don't care. |
| 18:12 | <Big-Mama> | What's an 'ok' temperature? |
| 18:12 | <Guspaz|m> | Depends on the environment and CPU. |
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| 18:13 | <Big-Mama> | 22 bad? |
| 18:13 | <Linoder> | is there a discount for purchases if I'm an existing linode customer? |
| 18:13 | <Guspaz|m> | Mine idles between 40-55 degrees depending on the temperature in my room, and peaks about 80ish. |
| 18:13 | <Guspaz|m> | So it runs a bit hot. |
| 18:13 | <Guspaz|m> | But I'm just using the stock heatsink on an i7 920. |
| 18:14 | <Big-Mama> | What do you use your server for? |
| 18:14 | <Guspaz|m> | That's my desktop, not my server. |
| 18:14 | <Big-Mama> | Ah. |
| 18:14 | <Guspaz|m> | My Linode hosts a few websites and services, not much. |
| 18:14 | <Big-Mama> | Okay. |
| 18:14 | <Guspaz|m> | I'm building a 10TB file server, but it won't do much but act as a file server. And it's waiting on the last few parts :( |
| 18:14 | <@caker> | Linoder: no |
| 18:14 | <Big-Mama> | 10TB is alot. |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz|m> | caker: Is there a discount if I'm a customer of urmom? |
| 18:15 | <Big-Mama> | Anyway. |
| 18:15 | <Big-Mama> | Nighty night. |
| 18:15 | <Linoder> | boooooo |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz|m> | Just the PSU, SAS controller, and some notebook disks for RAID-1 boot. |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz|m> | Night |
| 18:15 | <tarpman> | Guspaz|m: urmom gives *everyone* a discount. |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz|m> | :P |
| 18:15 | <tarpman> | among other things :D |
| 18:15 | <Linoder> | i need a VPS that does nothing but not-so-important cron jobs |
| 18:15 | <Linoder> | can anyone recommend anything cheaper than linode that's relatively relaible? |
| 18:15 | <Guspaz|m> | Linoder: Can you not do it on your existing Linode? |
| 18:15 | <bob2> | Linoder: lucky a 360 costs approximately 6 coffees |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz|m> | 40 coffees here. |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz|m> | Hmm, not accounting for exchange rate. |
| 18:16 | <Linoder> | Some of my cron jobs seem to tank my VPS... so I'd rather move away all the non-sessential crap |
| 18:16 | <Guspaz|m> | 42.4 coffees. |
| 18:17 | <Guspaz|m> | Well, there's the $20 360. But, tank in what way? |
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| 18:17 | <Guspaz|m> | If it's insanely disk intensive, it might get complaints from the host. |
| 18:17 | <bob2> | where can you get good coffee for < usd$0.5? |
| 18:17 | <Linoder> | Guspaz: My VPS CPU goes up to 100% once in a while |
| 18:17 | <Linoder> | my guess is my cron jobs |
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| 18:17 | <Guspaz|m> | Linodes have four virtual CPUs. If your cron job maxes out one of them, it's no big deal. |
| 18:17 | <Linoder> | then apache doesn't respond, mysql doesn't do crap, etc. |
| 18:18 | <chesty> | you're running out of memory more likely |
| 18:18 | <Guspaz|m> | What the heck is your cron job doing that it can max out four CPU cores? |
| 18:18 | <mwalling> | bob2: my kurig machine |
| 18:18 | <Linoder> | i have no idea... it's doing just bunch of cron curl jobs |
| 18:18 | <bob2> | or you're smashing the disk |
| 18:18 | <bob2> | mwalling: yeah yeah |
| 18:18 | <Linoder> | curl job sounds like hair stylist thing |
| 18:19 | <Guspaz|m> | Linoder: Is it doing them in parallel, or sequence? |
| 18:19 | <Linoder> | gus: not sure.. they're just cron entries that execute at different times |
| 18:19 | <Guspaz|m> | If they overlap, it might explain it. |
| 18:19 | <Big-Mama> | http://michael.mypets.ws/ |
| 18:19 | <Big-Mama> | :D |
| 18:19 | <Linoder> | and the worst thing is.. when the VPS "lock up", i can't ssh in... so i can't run vmstat or top or anything |
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| 18:19 | <Guspaz|m> | With a bit of work, you could probably get the work done while co-existing on the rest of your VPS. |
| 18:21 | <Linoder> | is it possible to set up an alert if cpu/disk usage goes up to X% of max? |
| 18:22 | <Big-Mama> | You get an email. |
| 18:22 | <Linoder> | but that's delayed |
| 18:22 | <Linoder> | sometimes I get that AFTER I reboot my vps |
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| 18:23 | <Linoder> | Has anyone experience runniung on DME hosting? |
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| 18:28 | <guinea-pig> | Linoder: sometimes your load/disk usage might go up high *because* of a reboot. there's a lot going on during a boot |
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| 18:33 | <Linoder> | guinea-pig: no... the disk/load goes up BEFORE i issue reboot |
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| 18:37 | <jackson> | I've been getting an 'Image create failed.' error all day when trying to create an image over 1G |
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| 18:37 | <@caker> | jackson: on your Linode? Which one? |
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| 18:38 | <jackson> | caker, yeah its id is 30254 |
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| 18:39 | <jackson> | i was running some tests that were creating/deleting disks a lot, so maybe i went over some limit or something |
| 18:40 | <@caker> | jackson: one moment |
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| 18:42 | <@caker> | jackson: try now please |
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| 19:00 | <jackson> | caker, sorry lost my net for a bit there |
| 19:00 | <@caker> | jackson: give it another shot |
| 19:00 | <jackson> | thanks |
| 19:02 | <Yaakov> | HELLO CAKER |
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| 19:06 | <jackson> | caker, thanks it worked |
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| 19:07 | <tronix_> | HE having issues in Fremont? all of a sudden, seeing 250-270ms RTTs |
| 19:08 | <tronix_> | last few from MTR: |
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| 19:08 | <tronix_> | 11. ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.ne 0.9% 222 63.2 44.0 27.7 69.8 8.9 |
| 19:08 | <tronix_> | 12. ae-14-69.car4.NewYork1.Level3.ne 0.5% 222 93.3 53.1 27.6 230.3 40.6 |
| 19:08 | <tronix_> | 13. 4.68.63.158 0.0% 222 84.0 50.9 26.7 243.9 38.2 |
| 19:08 | <tronix_> | 14. Hurrican-Electric-LLC.TenGigabit 16.7% 222 283.3 263.8 250.0 289.2 9.1 |
| 19:08 | <tronix_> | 15. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.fmt1. 18.1% 221 266.1 272.1 250.8 516.9 29.9 |
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| 19:10 | <Yaakov> | !mtr-newark fremont1.linode.com |
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| 19:10 | <linbot> | Yaakov: [mtr] fremont1.linode.com: 8 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 81.5ms |
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| 19:10 | <tronix> | hmm. maybe something path-specific. |
| 19:10 | <tronix> | i'll keep looking. thanks. |
| 19:11 | <Yaakov> | !mtr-fremont newark1.linode.com |
| 19:11 | <linbot> | Yaakov: [mtr] newark1.linode.com: 10 hops, no loss, last hop average RTT was 81.2ms (urmom) |
| 19:11 | <Yaakov> | !mtr-london fremont1.linode.com |
| 19:12 | <linbot> | Yaakov: [mtr] fremont1.linode.com: 8 hops, 85.90.238.18: 20.0%/0.7ms, fremont1.linode.com: 20.0%/148.3ms |
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| 19:13 | <tronix> | interesting. |
| 19:13 | * | tronix munches on that thought |
| 19:15 | -!- | reza [~bcdc1a57@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 19:16 | <reza> | Hi is there anyone online for a little help? |
| 19:17 | <tronix> | not sure I can help you until I know your question :) ask and see if someone here can answer |
| 19:17 | <bd_> | !ask |
| 19:17 | <linbot> | Don't ask to ask; just ASK |
| 19:17 | <bd_> | !community |
| 19:17 | <linbot> | The staff may or may not be around but if you tell us your problem then someone in here may be able to help |
| 19:18 | <tronix> | not sure what HE/L3 just did but their interconnect suddenly went down from 280ms to 110ms -- more draino, baby ;) |
| 19:18 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Running a php script to delete something in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5039>; |
| 19:19 | <Pryon> | Yaakov: I LOVE YOU WITH A LOVE OF AN AS-YET UNDETERMINED SIZE |
| 19:19 | <Yaakov> | Aw shucks. |
| 19:19 | <tronix> | Love with a MTU of 4K? ;) |
| 19:19 | <Yaakov> | THE JUMBO FRAME OF LOVE |
| 19:19 | <Pryon> | ha |
| 19:19 | <tronix> | hahahaha |
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| 19:22 | <X-LP> | yey backup failed again \o/ |
| 19:23 | <Pryon> | let's just say you can set SO_RCVLOWAT as large as you want and recv() will never block |
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| 19:24 | <amitz> | X-LP: well, you didn't look so panicked so I guess everything works out ;-) |
| 19:24 | <X-LP> | nah |
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| 19:24 | <X-LP> | stil beta so i dont rely on it |
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| 19:24 | <X-LP> | but the ticket is still open from the last time! |
| 19:25 | <bd_> | X-LP: I think the backup service is expected to be rather flaky until they finish redesigning it |
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| 19:26 | <bd_> | I'm of the opinion that they should probably take it down entirely if it's not expected to work at all though |
| 19:27 | <X-LP> | nah im fine with it. just wanna give feedback if i can |
| 19:27 | <X-LP> | just in case something gets overlooked |
| 19:28 | <X-LP> | aha |
| 19:28 | <X-LP> | nick is different than in the ticket system |
| 19:29 | <squircle> | non-linode question: two adjacent drives in my four-drive RAID 10 array failed, and they show up on boot in the intel raid thing as "offline members" (i managed to get them away from "failed"); is there a way to resync my array? |
| 19:31 | <bd_> | adjacent meaning they're part of a single RAID-1 pair? Or in different RAID-1 pairs? |
| 19:31 | <squircle> | single RAID-1 pair, but as soon as they both died, the computer shut down, so since I have both sides of the array working again, shouldn't they work? |
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| 19:31 | <bd_> | er, can you get the data off them? >_>; |
| 19:31 | <squircle> | problem with the ICH10R is that you have to boot into Windows to rebuild the array |
| 19:32 | <squircle> | bd_: i probably could if I used mdraid or something.... |
| 19:32 | <squircle> | I just want them to resync *cry* |
| 19:32 | <bd_> | oh, I'm not sure about that front. I've not used ICH10R :/ |
| 19:32 | <tjfontaine> | peboot |
| 19:32 | <squircle> | should be the same as ICH9R... |
| 19:32 | <bd_> | It's crazy to require an OS boot to resync the raid array though :| |
| 19:32 | <squircle> | thank you, Intel. |
| 19:34 | <squircle> | now to figure out mdraid... |
| 19:35 | <bob2> | do you have backups? |
| 19:36 | <squircle> | from last wednesday... |
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| 19:43 | <squircle> | the data's there, but apparently Intel (in their infinite wisdom) decided they didn't want me to be able to access it... |
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| 19:57 | <jcy> | suggestion for the dns manager in the linode manager: onmouseover a/cname/mx records |
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| 20:11 | <LinodeJavaUser> | is there any one who works for linode awake? |
| 20:11 | <bob2> | !f time in newark |
| 20:11 | <linbot> | bob2: 8:11:36 pm EST | Monday, January 11, 2010 |
| 20:11 | <bd_> | !community |
| 20:11 | <linbot> | The staff may or may not be around but if you tell us your problem then someone in here may be able to help |
| 20:12 | <bd_> | if you need something that _only_ staff can help you with, then putting in a ticket is probably best |
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| 20:15 | <squircle> | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 20:15 | <squircle> | *ahem* |
| 20:15 | <squircle> | my RAID array is successfully rebuilding |
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| 20:35 | <amitz> | !excitement |
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| 20:36 | <tjfontaine> | imposisble |
| 20:36 | <amitz> | spelling error alert! |
| 20:37 | <tjfontaine> | spelilng si fro skcuers |
| 20:38 | <amitz> | tjfontaine: you're a sucker by heart. I know you have to make a conscious effort to misspell them, right? ;-) |
| 20:40 | <squircle> | !cnn toronto |
| 20:40 | <squircle> | linbot: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error |
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| 20:42 | <tjfontaine> | amitz: ddi I? |
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| 20:47 | <amitz> | if you're bored enough and want to read about an outrageousness in another country you maybe never heard of: http://cetak.kompas.com/read/xml/2010/01/11/11593558/pondok.bambu.prison.a.five-star.prison |
| 20:48 | <Battousai> | there are other countries?! |
| 20:48 | <squircle> | Battousai: are you american, by chance? |
| 20:48 | <Battousai> | hell no |
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| 20:48 | <Battousai> | i'm pennsylvanian |
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| 20:48 | <amitz> | oh yeah, that was _laser_ facial treatment, she actually has the machine inside. |
| 20:49 | <squircle> | aah, well, i've met quite a few americans who didn't know, for example, that canada was a country |
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| 20:49 | <tjfontaine> | zomg a batt |
| 20:49 | <amitz> | canada is not america?!? |
| 20:49 | <tjfontaine> | canada is a state |
| 20:49 | <Swabby> | ok...probably a dumb question..but can i do mail forwarding w/o installing a mailserver? |
| 20:49 | <Guspaz|m> | Canada wasn't a proper country until 1982. |
| 20:50 | <tjfontaine> | Swabby: yes |
| 20:50 | <amitz> | canada, the 51st state! |
| 20:50 | <Swabby> | tj: whats the best way to accomplish on my domains? |
| 20:51 | <tjfontaine> | Swabby: there are many mail forwarding services available, what are your requirements (generally one is available from your registrar) |
| 20:51 | <cdlu> | on the contrary |
| 20:51 | <cdlu> | United States, the 11th province |
| 20:51 | <tjfontaine> | liar |
| 20:51 | <squircle> | truth |
| 20:51 | <tjfontaine> | the 'lu knows not |
| 20:51 | <tjfontaine> | he's blinded by the cold |
| 20:51 | <cdlu> | nuh-uh! |
| 20:51 | <Swabby> | tj: i am going to use linode for dns..can i do it thru there? |
| 20:51 | <cdlu> | it's -12 here, it's balmy! |
| 20:52 | <amitz> | Swabby: or if I have to guess on your need, you can set your DNS entry of the domain you want to forward from, to point to your real mail server. |
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| 20:52 | <amitz> | Swabby: almost certain yeah. |
| 20:52 | <Swabby> | basically i have 4-5 domains..need to forward maybe 5-6 addresses |
| 20:52 | <tjfontaine> | Swabby: there are two pieces to mail forwarding, the dns settings and the service that actually handles the email |
| 20:52 | <Bohemian> | HoopyCat: you here? |
| 20:52 | <Swabby> | I *think*i am going to try google apps for mail... |
| 20:53 | <amitz> | Bohemian: nobody touch my girl without my permission! |
| 20:53 | <amitz> | s/girl/girls |
| 20:53 | <tjfontaine> | then you can set google stuffs to your dns stuff in the control panel |
| 20:54 | <amitz> | Swabby: see google tutorial on setting up google apps. |
| 20:55 | <vulcan> | Swabby: I <3 Google apps |
| 20:55 | <vulcan> | make so much more sense than trying to do your own mail |
| 20:56 | <tjfontaine> | "Unless you like privacy" |
| 20:56 | <squircle> | i, on the other hand, <3 dovecot/postfix/spamassassin/clamav :D |
| 20:56 | <tjfontaine> | ^amavisd-new |
| 20:56 | <amitz> | <troll> tjfontaine: linode never says "Do No Evil" |
| 20:57 | <tjfontaine> | they do just the right amount :) |
| 20:58 | <amitz> | I wish I have a business that's powerful enough that I can publicly declare "Do No Evil"... |
| 20:58 | <tjfontaine> | and then do whatever you want behind closed doors? |
| 20:59 | <amitz> | no, really do it in front and behind the closed doors. But comitted enough to make it a public statement. |
| 21:00 | <tjfontaine> | be evil in public but proclaim do no evil? I thought that's what everyone does |
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| 21:02 | <amitz> | but really truly do no evil is a luxury and often time contradict business sense.. |
| 21:02 | <Swabby> | vulcan: cool good to see someone else is doing this |
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| 21:03 | <Swabby> | vulcan: using free or did you do the 50$? |
| 21:03 | <vulcan> | free |
| 21:03 | <vulcan> | no reason to pay, really |
| 21:03 | <amitz> | gah, this depresses me. |
| 21:03 | <megatron27> | amitz, nonsense |
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| 21:04 | <amitz> | megatron27: you...actually have free time now to hang around! ;-). Finally know the right time/moment to slack off in the office :-p |
| 21:05 | <megatron27> | nah, I turned on my IRC client to ask a question in #django :P |
| 21:05 | <megatron27> | work related matter of course |
| 21:05 | <megatron27> | so I stopped by here just like how you might stop by for lunch on the way to an appointment |
| 21:06 | <amitz> | megatron27: so we're your lunch now? Please teach me that special power! |
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| 21:07 | <amitz> | megatron27: anyhow, how do you like normal office work? |
| 21:07 | <megatron27> | no, what I meant was that coming in here was like going to lunch or stopping at convenience store on the way or on the way back from an appointment with a client |
| 21:07 | <megatron27> | amitz, love it |
| 21:08 | <megatron27> | normal office hours are great as long as they don't dictate when I have my breakfast and lunch |
| 21:08 | <amitz> | megatron27: is that you speaking or you're under supervision? :-p |
| 21:09 | <megatron27> | I don't mind coming in early as long as I don't get penalized if I decide to sleep in 2-3 times a week |
| 21:09 | <tjfontaine> | s/3/5/ |
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| 21:11 | <megatron27> | I'm working on my own these days and I usually leave the house an hour before sunrise |
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| 21:12 | <megatron27> | but the breakfast and lunch issue is more important to me |
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| 21:18 | <amitz> | oh, gone. |
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| 21:20 | <amitz> | heh, is currently mulling over ethical decision... |
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| 21:21 | <ericoc> | ethical decisions are tricky |
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| 22:00 | <amitz> | ericoc: ethical decision is troublesome. I usually set a period of time to force myself into decision. Unfortunately, sometime you must decide on literally seconds. |
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| 22:26 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Hardy ufw works on kernel 2.6.31.5, bombs on 2.6.32 in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5041>; |
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| 22:35 | * | gnubie waves |
| 22:36 | * | gnubie wondering how can i reproduce identical linodes |
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| 22:37 | <Peng> | I wonder what Linode uses to produce the hosts? :D |
| 22:39 | <gnubie> | hello guys |
| 22:39 | <@caker> | Peng: they're like snowflakes. Each one is unique |
| 22:39 | <gnubie> | how do you implement identical pre-configured linodes? |
| 22:39 | <gnubie> | well, identical doesn't mean with the same ip address, hostname, etc.. |
| 22:40 | <spkitty> | try telling that to designers caker http://www.idsgn.org/posts/no-two-snowflakes-alike/ |
| 22:40 | <@caker> | gnubie: you can clone disk images between Linodes under an account. Or you can use the API and deploy with an ssh key, ssh in and run a script, or ... :) |
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| 22:40 | <gnubie> | caker: clone disk image means i need to maintain a single linode just a master image without actually using it |
| 22:41 | <@caker> | gnubie: not really. Resize the image down to something small, and then clone just that disk image |
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| 22:45 | <gnubie> | caker: i have a running linode already but that one is for a running site. i want to have another linode image pre-configured as the master image to be replicated if i need to setup another linode. do i need to have a dedicated linode for my master image? |
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| 22:45 | <@caker> | gnubie: nope -- just some space carved out for the master disk image. You can have multiple disk images under one Linode, you know |
| 22:46 | <@caker> | just keep it not-in-use (not attached to the config profile) |
| 22:47 | <@caker> | gnubie: also, watch blog.linode.com over the next week or so for something that may help you in this area. |
| 22:49 | <logmo> | How up-to-date are the "Interesting Statistics" on the "About Us" page? |
| 22:50 | <Peng> | caker: <3 |
| 22:50 | <gnubie> | caker: maybe i just need 3gb for the / partition which i need to clone |
| 22:50 | <gnubie> | caker: ok. thnaks. ;-) |
| 22:50 | <Peng> | logmo: caker knows the answer, but... they're updated pretty regularly. Probably a couple months old at most. |
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| 22:52 | <logmo> | Peng: okay |
| 23:01 | <gnubie> | brb |
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| 23:06 | <Peng> | Although the bandwidth has been 805 Mbps since at least September... :D |
| 23:06 | <amitz> | what bandwidth Peng ? |
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| 23:07 | <Peng> | amitz: https://www.linode.com/about/ |
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| 23:09 | <amitz> | Peng: ah.. |
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| 23:20 | <amitz> | I wonder if caker will eventually sell out linode... |
| 23:20 | <amitz> | I hope not. |
| 23:25 | <Pryon> | Just refrain from offering him large sacks of cash for it, then. |
| 23:27 | <Pryon> | amitz: as far as I know, linode is a privately held company so he can do what he wants. I assume he's having a good time. As long as that's true, I'm sure he'll hang on to linode. |
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| 23:29 | <amitz> | Pryon: I'm just a small customer who voice his voice. I just hope he considers it when he ever thinks of selling linode.. |
| 23:29 | <amitz> | It's perfectly within his right but I'm just hoping... |
| 23:32 | <amitz> | When the shareholder is only one, it's easier to decide on something ethical/nice but against the maximization of profit. But once you have multiple shareholders, ethical/nice decisions will be more difficult to justify. |
| 23:32 | <Pryon> | I don't think you have anything to worry about until the LEO DC is in service and the mind control lasers have been deployed. |
| 23:32 | <amitz> | to shareholders. |
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| 23:54 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Can not scroll back in man pages via ssh in Mac Terminal in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5043>; |
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| 23:58 | <amitz> | last! |
| 23:58 | <amitz> | ..well...hmm... shit, mistaking minutes with seconds |
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| 23:59 | <amitz> | oh..yay! to my hollow win.... |
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