| --- | Log | opened Wed Apr 02 00:00:05 2008 |
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| 00:06 | <booja> | I've found http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/bash_startup.htm good for working out what bash is doing on startup and so on |
| 00:06 | <booja> | it has a slackware bent, but it should work for other distros |
| 00:18 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 00:18 | <iggy> | slackware? |
| 00:18 | <r3z> | heh |
| 00:18 | * | r3z hasnt used slack in years |
| 00:18 | <r3z> | well ever since it started getting shitty. |
| 00:19 | <path-> | heh |
| 00:19 | <cruxeternus> | started? |
| 00:19 | <r3z> | bloated and shitty that is. |
| 00:19 | <path-> | i tried it once.. didn't last |
| 00:19 | * | r3z used to like slack. |
| 00:19 | * | r3z has always come back to debian or a debian based distro i.e. ubuntu |
| 00:19 | <r3z> | I am now an ubuntu fan. |
| 00:19 | <r3z> | Took me a while to get on the ubuntu bandwagon but I am here now. |
| 00:20 | <path-> | i seem to have a long history with redhat |
| 00:20 | <path-> | i'm not real happy about their commercialization and some of the crap they do sometimes |
| 00:21 | * | r3z doesnt mind redhat |
| 00:21 | <r3z> | it was my first linux distro I worked on. |
| 00:21 | <path-> | my work has been buying RHEL since it came out |
| 00:21 | <r3z> | The company I work for has an app for RHEL. |
| 00:21 | <r3z> | Realtime replication and High availability. |
| 00:21 | <path-> | and they sent me to get my RHCE when that came out |
| 00:21 | <r3z> | ;) |
| 00:21 | * | r3z wouldnt mind getting his RHCE. |
| 00:21 | <path-> | i think it expired though |
| 00:21 | <r3z> | too much $$ |
| 00:21 | <path-> | yea, work paid for it |
| 00:22 | <r3z> | Ya they contemplated it for me but they thought I knew too much so no need for training. |
| 00:22 | <path-> | i got certified under redhat 7 if that tells you anything |
| 00:22 | <path-> | maybe 8 |
| 00:22 | <path-> | who knows |
| 00:22 | <path-> | different numbering scheme |
| 00:22 | <r3z> | They are still pondering it but only so we can say we have engineers with RH certs. |
| 00:22 | <path-> | yea |
| 00:23 | <path-> | well, i did pick up some stuff |
| 00:23 | <r3z> | Ya |
| 00:23 | <path-> | when i went, we weren't using lvm at the time |
| 00:23 | <path-> | and got to play with that stuff |
| 00:23 | <r3z> | I think I would learn a good bit actually but whatever |
| 00:23 | <path-> | classes and seminars are good every so often |
| 00:23 | <r3z> | ya |
| 00:24 | <path-> | i also saw someone there running nagios |
| 00:24 | <path-> | so i set that up at work too |
| 00:24 | <path-> | that was probably the best thing i got from the class.. and that was from another classmate |
| 00:24 | <r3z> | nagios is fairly nifty |
| 00:25 | <path-> | yea, i dunno how we would have handled the growth without it |
| 00:25 | <path-> | use to just have a web server, email server, and a couple file servers |
| 00:26 | <path-> | i did use debian for awhile at home years ago |
| 00:26 | <path-> | but i was converted to a mac |
| 00:27 | <path-> | i've thought about installing linux on my old powermac g4 though |
| 00:30 | <path-> | what app does your company have for rh? |
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| 00:57 | <pdepartida> | hello quick question, considering that dns information www.somedomain.com and somedomain.com point to the same ip... is there a way for me to determine through the apache log where was a specific request made (i.e. www.somedomian.com OR somedomian.com) |
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| 01:11 | <r3z> | path-, sorry I went afk you still here? |
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| 01:27 | <pdepartida> | hello quick question, considering that dns information www.somedomain.com and somedomain.com point to the same ip... is there a way for me to determine through the apache log where was a specific request made (i.e. www.somedomian.com OR somedomian.com) |
| 01:27 | <encode> | well, you could set custom logs, and use virtualhosts to separate the two different domains |
| 01:28 | <encode> | since www.somedomain.com and somedomain.com are different domains, as far as apache virtualhosts are concerned |
| 01:30 | <pdepartida> | ok thx. |
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| 02:00 | <dpn`> | would rate limiting literally stop a node from responding properly to requests? |
| 02:01 | <dpn`> | i have some code which is happily running on one node, but stops on another one |
| 02:01 | <r3z> | Bleh my domain needs to update so it will point to my linode. |
| 02:01 | <dpn`> | when i kill my code hitting the server i see it is trying to read a response, but itsn't getting any |
| 02:01 | <r3z> | Already setup the DNS servers to point to linodes and also setup the linode records |
| 02:02 | <r3z> | Now I want to setup reverse but it wont let me I guess cause it is still resolving to the old IP. |
| 02:02 | <bd_> | r3z: it may be cached |
| 02:02 | <r3z> | Ya |
| 02:02 | <r3z> | The cache needs to expire! |
| 02:02 | <bd_> | dpn`: what rate limiting? |
| 02:02 | <dpn`> | bd_: actually ignore me |
| 02:03 | <dpn`> | the rate limiting was on the node that is running fine |
| 02:03 | <dpn`> | (a uml one) |
| 02:05 | <dpn`> | i wonder what is happening on the xen host :\ |
| 02:06 | <r3z> | My xen performs better |
| 02:06 | <bd_> | if it has threading and iffy locking, the Real SMP in xen might cause problems |
| 02:06 | <bd_> | strace it maybe |
| 02:13 | <r3z> | Bleh I guess the cache wont expire before I go to bed |
| 02:18 | <dpn`> | bd_: nah, just multiple processes |
| 02:18 | <dpn`> | bd_: yep, good idea |
| 02:21 | <webPragmatis3> | is checkinstall no longer available for etch |
| 02:21 | <webPragmatis3> | ? |
| 02:21 | <webPragmatis3> | oh wait |
| 02:21 | <webPragmatis3> | got it |
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| 03:58 | <LanceHaig> | moringing |
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| 04:44 | <spasmface> | i read someone linode offers offsite mysql databases? |
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| 04:56 | <spasmface> | no wait, ill grab the link |
| 04:57 | <spasmface> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1460 |
| 04:58 | <spasmface> | 3 years ago.. |
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| 05:24 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Backup MX Server at Linode? in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3125> |
| 05:24 | * | jadoba is glad that is a question and not an announcement |
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| 05:44 | <Peng> | Mmmm. |
| 05:45 | <Peng> | 194.204.212.5 came back to try a small dictionary attack against SSH, and two other IPs also poked port 22. |
| 05:46 | <JDLSpeedy> | block them with iptables |
| 05:50 | <Peng> | First I have to learn how to configure a firewall . . . |
| 05:52 | <Talman> | Or install fail2ban or denyhosts and let it do it for you. |
| 05:53 | <Peng> | Indeed. |
| 05:53 | <new2linode> | or just disable sshd and connect thru lish when you want to do admin |
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| 05:59 | <Peng> | new2linode: Nah. That wouldn't work. |
| 06:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | or change the ssh port |
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| 06:03 | <pusling> | ssh keys ? |
| 06:06 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: postfix help needed in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3178> |
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| 06:20 | <Peng> | Oh, great. I installed DenyHosts, changed the config and now it won't start. :P |
| 06:24 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Using one Linode as a firewall/router for all others. in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3193> |
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| 06:27 | <Talman> | What'd you do wrong? |
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| 06:28 | <Peng> | Oh, config error. |
| 06:28 | <Peng> | Now it works. |
| 06:28 | <Peng> | One option wasn't being set. |
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| 06:42 | <Peng> | Wait, running both DenyHosts and fail2ban would be redundant, right? |
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| 06:46 | <Talman> | Most likely. |
| 06:46 | <Talman> | I run denyhosts simply because I didn't know about fail2ban. |
| 06:47 | <Peng> | Does fail2ban support the synchronization stuff DenyHosts does? |
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| 08:10 | <cnolan> | word up, anyone around? |
| 08:10 | <cnolan> | i have a linode.. and was thinking about getting another one to use on a private IP as a backup server for my main linode. |
| 08:12 | <HoopyCat> | the only thing better than one linode is two linodes :-) |
| 08:12 | <cnolan> | questions... 1) is this a good idea? or should i go off-site for backups? 2) what will the transfer rates be like between private net linodes? (i presume FAST) 3) can i specify that the new "backup" linode is on a different machine to my main linode? (doesn't seem much sense having them both on the same machine!) 4) what if i run out of disk space on my backup linode, can i extend it? |
| 08:13 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 08:13 | <cnolan> | lol HoopyCat. your input to my questions and any advice would be great :) |
| 08:14 | <HoopyCat> | 1) personally, i rsync my stuff to my home machine daily and then back that up as well. backups aren't an either-or kind of situation... use your spare bandwidth on the second box to back that up to home every few days, just to be more safe in the event a meteor strikes the datacenter |
| 08:14 | <jadoba> | 1) having a plan b is never a bad thing. 2) FAST and most likely FREE (using intra-datacenter ips) 3) probably not a problem, submit a ticket 4) yes |
| 08:15 | <cnolan> | btw, my data isn't hugely important - a few websites and some emails... so i guess on-site backup is better than no backup at all, and probably sufficient for my needs. |
| 08:15 | <HoopyCat> | .... and jadoba answered the other three :-) |
| 08:15 | <jadoba> | HoopyCat: yeah, gotta watch tose meteors |
| 08:15 | <cnolan> | thanks guys! nice idea to backup my backup machine to my local machine |
| 08:16 | * | cnolan goes off to buy another linode |
| 08:16 | <HoopyCat> | which datacenter is least prone to meteor strikes? help i wanna never have an outage :-) |
| 08:16 | <HoopyCat> | cnolan: because, after all, you back up your home machine, right? ;-) |
| 08:16 | <cnolan> | ummm.... errrr... |
| 08:17 | <jadoba> | hehe |
| 08:17 | * | jadoba backs up to dvd once in a blue moon... |
| 08:17 | * | cnolan lives on the edge |
| 08:17 | <jadoba> | cnolan: living on the edge people often get cut |
| 08:17 | * | path- backs up to betamax |
| 08:18 | <HoopyCat> | i run xp at home, so i use carbonite... $5/mo to back up all 120gb of This Old House reruns i have is pretty good |
| 08:18 | <jadoba> | path-: I used to back up to clay tablet with sanscrit encoded in base64 |
| 08:18 | <HoopyCat> | base64? luxury. my old backups used uuencode |
| 08:18 | <jadoba> | but then I saw the light ans switched to DVD |
| 08:18 | <path-> | :) |
| 08:18 | <path-> | clay shortages? |
| 08:19 | <jadoba> | nah, my mom's a ceramicist. always plenty of clay |
| 08:19 | <cnolan> | xp? :o |
| 08:19 | <jadoba> | the clay was too dusty... |
| 08:20 | <cnolan> | i might get some S3 storage for my home machine. hey, i could have backups of backups of backups. |
| 08:20 | * | encode just backs up to usenet, and lets other people do the storing |
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| 08:20 | <cnolan> | hehe |
| 08:20 | <encode> | the trick is to come up with enticing names |
| 08:21 | <HoopyCat> | ooh yeah, buxom blonde chicks in maple syrup... *download* *click* hey, why is it starting quicken? |
| 08:21 | <jadoba> | and a way to get the data back |
| 08:23 | <cnolan> | what CPUs do the linode servers have in them? i'm impressed at how they perform, especially as there is apparently up to 40 nodes on a box |
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| 08:24 | <HoopyCat> | model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5335 @ 2.00GHz |
| 08:24 | <HoopyCat> | i see four of those |
| 08:25 | <cnolan> | 2 dual core? |
| 08:25 | <path-> | i think they are quad's |
| 08:25 | <jadoba> | cnolan: hint: look up the model number |
| 08:25 | <path-> | i looked it up at one point |
| 08:25 | <Talman> | Welcome to xen, enjoy your quad core. |
| 08:26 | <cnolan> | thnx |
| 08:27 | <HoopyCat> | if there's one thing i miss about my old job, it's the xen cluster |
| 08:28 | <cnolan> | im off. thanks for the help folks. bon jour. |
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| 08:49 | <HoopyCat> | "You are not done yet...there are ten steps left to complete." |
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| 08:55 | <percy> | morning all. |
| 09:09 | <HoopyCat> | morning :-) |
| 09:09 | <percy> | morning. |
| 09:09 | <percy> | :) |
| 09:09 | <percy> | i can't believe i'm up this early... ugh. |
| 09:09 | <percy> | girlfriend made me drive her to the train. |
| 09:10 | * | percy looks at amazon ec2 pricing. |
| 09:10 | <percy> | is amazon running xen? |
| 09:10 | <@caker> | developers developers developers developers. |
| 09:10 | <@caker> | percy: why look at ec2 unless you need lotsa instances for a short time? |
| 09:11 | <percy> | i'm just curious.. nothing more. |
| 09:11 | <percy> | seems pricey. |
| 09:11 | <percy> | i wonder if they're doing big-iron or just clusters. |
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| 09:24 | <r3z`> | Hrm I am trying to do reverse dns and it says there is no matching entry for my domain. |
| 09:25 | <r3z`> | Interesting. |
| 09:25 | <r3z`> | There is a record. |
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| 09:26 | <percy> | god.. i can't wait til i move.. |
| 09:27 | <percy> | i'll be getting next to 0 mile loops. |
| 09:27 | <percy> | hehe. |
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| 09:52 | <shorawitz> | anyone about this morning? |
| 09:52 | <HoopyCat> | sup? |
| 09:52 | <heidi> | no |
| 09:53 | <shorawitz> | I finally took the plunge and created a linode acct. Wondering though about dns... |
| 09:53 | <shorawitz> | what IP should I use to register my dns if I use the dns manager? |
| 09:53 | <shorawitz> | domain rather |
| 09:54 | <zeroday> | since the time change to BST, cron runs my jobs one hour late :< |
| 09:54 | <zeroday> | should a restart of crond fix it? |
| 09:54 | <HoopyCat> | shora: ns1.linode.com and ns2.linode.com :-) |
| 09:54 | <path-> | shorawitz: if should be in your acct page |
| 09:54 | <shorawitz> | oh, jeesh |
| 09:55 | <HoopyCat> | zero: hmm, i've never run into that problem during summer time adjustments, but it is probably worth a shot |
| 09:56 | <zeroday> | everything else seems to work fine |
| 09:56 | <shorawitz> | yep, thanks path. I actually looked that page and must have just glanced at it |
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| 09:58 | <r3z`> | Anyone ahve any insight into my reverse DNS issue? |
| 09:59 | <@caker> | r3z`: the dns server that the rdns page uses caches old responses .. lemme clear it for you |
| 09:59 | <r3z`> | thanks |
| 09:59 | -!- | r3z` is now known as r3z |
| 09:59 | <r3z> | I updated it last night so I figured it would be clear by this morning. |
| 09:59 | <r3z> | You have a 24hr cache? |
| 10:00 | <@caker> | try now? |
| 10:00 | <r3z> | Lookup Results |
| 10:00 | <r3z> | No match was found for "r3zurector.net". Reverse DNS must have a matching forward entry for one of your IPs. |
| 10:01 | <@caker> | ok, and now? :) |
| 10:01 | <r3z> | no dice. |
| 10:01 | <shorawitz> | path-: I see the rdns, but is that the same server that is serving my dns? I setup a slave |
| 10:01 | <@caker> | weird |
| 10:02 | <r3z> | r3zurector.net master 2008-04-02 01:06:31 AM 2008-04-02 01:15:21 AM |
| 10:02 | <r3z> | Everything looks good on my end. |
| 10:03 | <@caker> | r3z: ok .. now? |
| 10:03 | <guinea-pig> | heh |
| 10:03 | <@caker> | had to hunt down the right dns server |
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| 10:03 | <guinea-pig> | and then? NO AND THEN! |
| 10:03 | <r3z> | Got it |
| 10:03 | <r3z> | w00t |
| 10:03 | <r3z> | Thanks |
| 10:03 | <@caker> | np |
| 10:04 | <r3z> | How long does rdns take to take effect? |
| 10:05 | <r3z> | How long does rdns take to take effect? |
| 10:05 | <r3z> | err |
| 10:05 | <r3z> | sry |
| 10:05 | <@caker> | 2-24 hours |
| 10:05 | <r3z> | Ok. |
| 10:06 | <r3z> | I thought rdns was instant |
| 10:06 | <zeroday> | it still has to propogate |
| 10:07 | <r3z> | ya |
| 10:14 | * | TJF propogates mikegrb |
| 10:15 | * | mikegrb rolls TJF in a rickshaw |
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| 10:25 | <pcore> | hi all |
| 10:27 | <Talman> | Hi. |
| 10:28 | <percy> | hi |
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| 10:28 | <pcore> | So I was thinking about signing up with Linode because they offer an Arch Linux image, has anyone had any experience with the Arch image? |
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| 10:30 | <pcore> | or not |
| 10:32 | <pcore> | Also, with the hosted DNS you can do whatever you want? My current VPS provider only lets you point A records at your VPSs |
| 10:33 | <pcore> | I never understood why people sat on IRC all day and never said anything |
| 10:33 | <HoopyCat> | it's fairly flexible... i use it for all of my domains, and the only thing i've been unable to yet do through it is IPv6 reverse zones due to the lack of PTR support |
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| 10:34 | <@caker> | pcore: people seem to enjoy the Arch image |
| 10:34 | <pcore> | Right on, I have no need for IPv6 so that's not an issue. Thanks |
| 10:34 | <HoopyCat> | irc doesn't use that much bandwidth, so i leave my client up and just pop in when i'm at my desk :-) |
| 10:35 | <@caker> | pcore: the dns manager is pretty flexible -- master and slave zone support, can import from a remote dns server, soa, ns, mx, a/aaaa, cname, txt, srv records are supported |
| 10:35 | <@caker> | can clone a zone |
| 10:35 | <HoopyCat> | pcore: it does support AAAA records, though :-) |
| 10:36 | <@mikegrb> | just not ptr |
| 10:37 | <@mikegrb> | it needs a v6 ptr zone wizzard :P |
| 10:38 | <pcore> | Does anyone actually use v6? |
| 10:38 | <HoopyCat> | 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.6.f.0.b.2.1.3.4.2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. IN PTR bluemoon.ipv6.hoopycat.com. |
| 10:38 | <HoopyCat> | if that's not a job for a wizard, i don't know what is |
| 10:39 | <Bdragon> | That's what :: is for... |
| 10:39 | <HoopyCat> | pcore: i get some small amount of production web and mail traffic over 6to4 |
| 10:40 | <pcore> | I don't know if my work should have 1000+ workstations NATing out to one public IP |
| 10:41 | <HoopyCat> | Bdragon: has to be fully stretched out in ip6.arpa. i tried a wildcard, but that didn't fly. 'sides, i might want to do vanity IRC hostnames in the future... |
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| 10:43 | <HoopyCat> | pcore: IPv6 is fun to play with, esp. with 6to4. might as well learn how it works, i figure. |
| 10:43 | <pcore> | "We’re sorry, but your Gmail account is currently experiencing errors. You won’t be able to use your account while these errors last..." |
| 10:45 | <pcore> | Thanks for the info guys, I think I will be signing up for linode as soon as my gmail starts working =) |
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| 10:46 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Unusual CPU usage on dallas58/UML in Performance and Tuning <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3183> |
| 10:49 | <HoopyCat> | ah crap, the cat. brb. |
| 10:49 | <mendel-> | but but but YOU'RE the cat |
| 10:50 | <mendel-> | are you one of those human-like cartoon cats who keeps a cat-like cartoon cat as a pet, like Goofy keeps Pluto? |
| 10:50 | <HoopyCat> | so really, i'm letting myself in from outside |
| 10:51 | <HoopyCat> | i have three cats, whom are referred to as the hoopycatcats. |
| 10:52 | <mendel-> | i see. |
| 10:52 | <mendel-> | Are they on catbook? |
| 10:52 | -!- | mendel- is now known as mendel |
| 10:52 | <mendel> | dear colloquy why do you always call me "mendel-" here |
| 10:53 | <HoopyCat> | probably, but my wife handles the facebook :-) |
| 10:53 | * | linbot dispenses catnip |
| 10:54 | <HoopyCat> | better be the fresh stuff... the cats here are spoiled |
| 10:59 | * | mikegrb has started making his own cigarettes, the cats get confused when I put out the tobacco to dry |
| 10:59 | <r3z> | heh |
| 10:59 | <@mikegrb> | it looks mostly the same |
| 10:59 | <r3z> | tobacco sure. |
| 10:59 | <@mikegrb> | just brown instead of green |
| 11:00 | <r3z> | Hah |
| 11:00 | <@mikegrb> | they come running and then sniff it for a while |
| 11:00 | <HoopyCat> | it's like opening a can |
| 11:01 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 11:01 | <HoopyCat> | 9 times out of 10 the can is full of diced tomatoes, but boy, one of these days, it'll be tuna! |
| 11:01 | <@mikegrb> | but ours don't get the canned stuff often |
| 11:02 | <@mikegrb> | yeah |
| 11:03 | <@linbot> | New news from wiki: User:Kangaby <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/User:Kangaby> |
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| 11:09 | <anonymous> | hi |
| 11:09 | <@caker> | hello |
| 11:09 | <anonymous> | I had a question |
| 11:09 | <anonymous> | I am running Ruby on Rails |
| 11:09 | <anonymous> | on a different port than 80 |
| 11:09 | <anonymous> | i am using the inbuilt server |
| 11:10 | <anonymous> | and I am able to use telnet to that port |
| 11:10 | <anonymous> | from within the linode server |
| 11:10 | <anonymous> | however |
| 11:10 | <anonymous> | connections from an external ip |
| 11:10 | <anonymous> | are not getting through |
| 11:10 | <anonymous> | for example |
| 11:11 | <HoopyCat> | have you checked iptables, and also made sure it is binding to eth0 and not just lo? |
| 11:11 | <anonymous> | I am not able to even telnet to that IP and port from my desktop computer |
| 11:11 | <anonymous> | iptables is not running |
| 11:11 | <iggy> | don't know about ror, but django by default only listens on 127.0.0.1 |
| 11:12 | <anonymous> | but |
| 11:13 | <anonymous> | shouldn't another computer be able to atleast open a socket connection on the specific port ? |
| 11:13 | <anonymous> | for me |
| 11:13 | <iggy> | not if it isn't listening |
| 11:15 | <@caker> | netstat -lpn <-- shows you listening ports and on which interface, and the pid |
| 11:16 | <HoopyCat> | ooh, i like the p |
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| 11:17 | <anonymous> | and netstat is showing that ruby is listening on 127.0.0.1:3000 |
| 11:17 | <@caker> | so, localhost only |
| 11:17 | <anonymous> | and the foreign address is: 0.0.0.0:* |
| 11:17 | <anonymous> | yup |
| 11:18 | <@caker> | ignore the foreign address column in that display mode |
| 11:19 | <iggy> | 127.0.0.1 is unroutable, so you'll never be able to connect to it |
| 11:19 | <r3z> | there is no place like 127.0.0.1 ;) |
| 11:20 | <r3z> | hrm this dcc-proc install is taking forever |
| 11:20 | <r3z> | seems hung |
| 11:21 | <anonymous> | thanks |
| 11:21 | <anonymous> | will check and get back |
| 11:21 | <Talman> | hmm. |
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| 11:55 | <shorawitz> | I'm not sure if this is right, but I setup my domain as a slave using the DNS manager... |
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| 11:55 | <shorawitz> | I then found a post in the forum that showed 65.19.178.10 and 69.93.127.10 as the servers so I set those as xfer hosts in my dns config |
| 11:56 | <shorawitz> | are those really the right servers I should use for my domain as secondaries? |
| 11:56 | <@caker> | !setup |
| 11:56 | <@linbot> | setup is not a verb. |
| 11:56 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:56 | <zeroday> | lol |
| 11:56 | <@caker> | !dns ns1.linode.com |
| 11:56 | <@linbot> | caker: 69.93.127.10 |
| 11:56 | <@caker> | !dns ns2.linode.com |
| 11:56 | <@linbot> | caker: 65.19.178.10 |
| 11:56 | <shorawitz> | so I did do it right then on my master |
| 11:57 | <@caker> | shorawitz: allow zone transfers from those IPs |
| 11:57 | <shorawitz> | ok, thanx. I did do it right then. My queries returned, so I figured I got it right |
| 11:57 | <shorawitz> | just wanted to be sure. |
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| 12:08 | <iskway> | hi all |
| 12:08 | <@caker> | hello iskway |
| 12:08 | <r3z> | caker, what is the process for moving over to XEN now? |
| 12:08 | <r3z> | If you would like to go ahead and do it that is. |
| 12:08 | <@caker> | r3z: wait until your host is rebooted, or request it via a ticket |
| 12:08 | <r3z> | k |
| 12:08 | <r3z> | I will request it. |
| 12:08 | <r3z> | You guys backed up on that now? |
| 12:08 | <iskway> | can I ask billing question |
| 12:09 | <@caker> | r3z: depends .. |
| 12:09 | <r3z> | Dallas still has xen 260's available right? |
| 12:09 | <r3z> | err 360 |
| 12:09 | <@caker> | I believe so, yes |
| 12:10 | <r3z> | ALright opened a ticket. |
| 12:10 | <@caker> | iskway: no need to ask to ask question |
| 12:10 | <iskway> | I have not received receipt of payment for invoice 93486 within 24 hours. Credit card info was not changed, since last payment so I suppose it's good. So I wonder do I need to manually charge card from linode panel or billing system will do that automatically? |
| 12:10 | <@caker> | iskway: it would have done it already. Does the "my account" subtab show a balance? |
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| 12:12 | <iskway> | its shows Current Balance: $19.95 due |
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| 12:39 | * | caker stabs browser rendering differences |
| 12:39 | <@caker> | stab stab stab |
| 12:40 | <m0unds_> | ??!!??!! |
| 12:40 | <mwalling> | LINKS! |
| 12:41 | <m0unds_> | extracts the lame right out of the interbutts |
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| 12:57 | <Talman> | Oh, hello. |
| 12:57 | <Talman> | caker,anything going on with dallas52? |
| 13:01 | <@caker> | nope |
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| 13:03 | <mwalling> | Talman: i'm purring away fine |
| 13:03 | * | purrdeta looks around... then leaves |
| 13:04 | <Talman> | Yeah, my internet just died for a split second. |
| 13:04 | <Talman> | So I thought my linode just went nuts. |
| 13:04 | <Talman> | Since I couldn't SSH in, web timed out, etc. |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | hey, i thought my microwave blew up the wireless at my house when you crashed dallas52 last month |
| 13:05 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:05 | <Talman> | lol |
| 13:06 | <Talman> | Is there a command to show current mysql activity? |
| 13:06 | <Talman> | from shell. |
| 13:07 | <@caker> | debuntu has /etc/init.d/mysql status |
| 13:07 | <tjfontaine> | you could also use mytop |
| 13:07 | <tjfontaine> | or show status; |
| 13:07 | <@caker> | a one-liner to mysql to show status ... |
| 13:07 | <@caker> | yup |
| 13:07 | <Talman> | show status; |
| 13:07 | <Talman> | I just used mysqlreport, seemed useful. |
| 13:11 | <shane> | mytop is a good option too |
| 13:12 | <@caker> | Threads: 15 Questions: 278976217 Slow queries: 0 Opens: 0 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 64 Queries per second avg: 147.560 |
| 13:12 | <@caker> | ^--- linode's db :) |
| 13:13 | * | Talman saw an sql jump and was like, omg. |
| 13:13 | <Talman> | But its only 6 threads. Anyone know what an "acceptable" max thread level would be? |
| 13:14 | <r3z> | hrm if I add a virtual server it takes over my default server instance in apache. even with the server name set to a domain instead of * |
| 13:14 | <r3z> | hrm |
| 13:14 | <Talman> | I'm afraid of OOMing, I just basically got slashdotted by the private security industry. |
| 13:14 | <shane> | caker: my goodness |
| 13:14 | <r3z> | out of memorying? |
| 13:15 | <Talman> | Yes. |
| 13:16 | <r3z> | ok. |
| 13:16 | <r3z> | Just checking. |
| 13:16 | <r3z> | heh |
| 13:16 | <m0unds_> | slashdot is the devil |
| 13:16 | <r3z> | I dont think he was actually slashdotted. |
| 13:16 | <shane> | nah, he's afraid of having to drop back to caster form from OOMkin |
| 13:18 | <Talman> | No, not actually slashdot. My site and 5 articles were mentioned on a yahoo group with 8 thousand members. |
| 13:18 | <r3z> | Good articles? |
| 13:18 | <r3z> | heh |
| 13:18 | <m0unds_> | that doesn't make slashdot suck any less |
| 13:18 | <Talman> | Yeah. |
| 13:19 | <Talman> | Oh, neer mind, checked memory usage, didn't even phase it. Just increased the number of threads to 6 from 3. |
| 13:22 | <r3z> | Anyone got any ideas on the apache thing? |
| 13:22 | <r3z> | it is bugging me. |
| 13:22 | <jkwood> | Bug zapper? |
| 13:23 | <shane> | r3z: so you want all requests NOT going to the domainname you specified in the vhost to go to the default host? |
| 13:23 | <r3z> | Ya |
| 13:23 | <r3z> | It should do that by default |
| 13:23 | <m0unds_> | yeah, it should |
| 13:23 | <r3z> | say i got to just the ip it should do that |
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| 13:23 | <shane> | do you use a debian-based distro? |
| 13:23 | <r3z> | if I go to the virtual host domain it should go to that virtual directory. |
| 13:23 | <r3z> | Nah its centos |
| 13:23 | <shane> | does that have sites-available and sites-enabled subdirs? |
| 13:24 | <r3z> | Nah its all in the httpd.conf |
| 13:24 | <r3z> | ALL of it. |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | <VirtualHost *:*> |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | DocumentRoot "/var/www/domaindir" |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | ServerName domain.com |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | <Directory "/var/www/domaindir"> |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | allow from all |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | Options +Indexes |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | </Directory> |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | </VirtualHost> |
| 13:25 | <zeroday> | pastebin |
| 13:25 | <zeroday> | that is all |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | err |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | heh |
| 13:25 | <r3z> | That should be sufficient |
| 13:26 | <r3z> | /var/www/html should remain the default dir for anything other than domain.com |
| 13:26 | <mwalling> | <Directory> is valid inside <VirtualHost> ? |
| 13:26 | <@mikegrb> | ues |
| 13:26 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 13:26 | <mwalling> | oh, i thought it had to be outside it |
| 13:26 | <@mikegrb> | r3z: the default vhost is the first one defined |
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| 13:27 | <r3z> | so do I need a vhost for servername * to point to /var/www/html |
| 13:27 | <r3z> | ? |
| 13:27 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 13:27 | <r3z> | let me go look at another server |
| 13:27 | <@mikegrb> | and define it first |
| 13:27 | <r3z> | like NameVirtualHost *? |
| 13:28 | <r3z> | shoud namevirtualhost for the virtual be domain.com:* instead of *:*? |
| 13:28 | <r3z> | It should stay *:* right? |
| 13:30 | <shane> | r3z: make sure the default vhost is highest in the file too |
| 13:30 | <@mikegrb> | it should match the other |
| 13:30 | <@mikegrb> | so you have *:* for the other one so use that too |
| 13:31 | <shane> | is there any kind of "recommend linode to a friend" bonus policy? |
| 13:31 | <jkwood> | Yes. You recommend it to a friend, then you pay me ten dollars. |
| 13:32 | <shane> | hah |
| 13:32 | <zeroday> | oh ok, I'll just need your name, address, postal code, account details, etc :) |
| 13:32 | <shane> | paypal acct is helpful for speediness |
| 13:32 | <jkwood> | =D |
| 13:32 | * | jkwood now has a new revenue stream |
| 13:32 | <r3z> | Ok that fixed it ;) |
| 13:33 | <Talman> | No, there is no referal. :) |
| 13:33 | <shane> | just checking |
| 13:33 | <HoopyCat> | if you recommend linode to a friend, you get a happy friend in exchange for slightly more CPU and I/O contention on your host |
| 13:33 | <@mikegrb> | referral |
| 13:33 | <shane> | cause i prly just pushed someone in #rubyonrails to you kind folks from slicehost |
| 13:33 | <shane> | who i abandoned earlier this month in favor of linode |
| 13:37 | <zeroday> | “Slicehost” and “slice” are trademarks of Slicehost, LLC |
| 13:37 | <zeroday> | :s |
| 13:43 | <shane> | performance is better and i got a lot bigger VPS from linode than SH for the same price |
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| 13:45 | <new2linode> | hi, I put in a support request today to switch one of my nodes to Xen. Not sure if that is the thing to do, or to ask on here. |
| 13:46 | <@mikegrb> | yes support ticket is correct |
| 13:46 | * | mwalling puts a ticket in to move mikegrb to xen |
| 13:46 | <new2linode> | ok, then I'm guessing they must be busy today |
| 13:46 | <@mikegrb> | tasaro is the one aware of the current allocations but is out today due to an injury |
| 13:47 | <shane> | what kind of performance differences could we expect through switching to xen? better IO throughput, good for databases? |
| 13:47 | <new2linode> | aha.. ok.. thanks, that explains it |
| 13:47 | <@mikegrb> | well a biggie is that the Xen nodes are SMP |
| 13:47 | <shane> | we only get one virtual cpu in the hvm or whatever the alternative is? |
| 13:47 | <new2linode> | anyone got any figures on the difference in bogus MIPs? |
| 13:48 | <zeroday> | shane, how can they trademark that word is what im wandering about |
| 13:48 | <scorche|sh> | slice is a trademark of a soda company |
| 13:49 | <Talman> | Because its not a generic word in computing terms. |
| 13:49 | <Talman> | Just like slice isn't a generic word in the soda industry. |
| 13:49 | <Battousai> | you've never eaten a slice of soda? |
| 13:50 | <Talman> | No, which proves my point on its genericness :) |
| 13:50 | <shane> | i certainly never said slicehost trademarked slice, why am i being addressed? |
| 13:52 | <mendel> | hrmph, slice is a generic word in computing terms. disklabel! |
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| 13:53 | * | mikegrb clices and dices shane |
| 13:53 | <@mikegrb> | s/clices/slices/ |
| 13:53 | <@caker> | lemme see that tootsie roll |
| 13:54 | <heidi> | to the left to the left |
| 13:54 | <heidi> | to the right to the right |
| 13:54 | <heidi> | now slide |
| 13:54 | <heidi> | slide |
| 13:54 | <heidi> | slide |
| 13:55 | <heidi> | oh |
| 13:56 | <purrdeta> | haha |
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| 13:59 | <shane> | if you start doing cupid shuffle i'm so out of here. |
| 14:02 | <HoopyCat> | haven't heard cupid shuffle yet, but after doing my research, that may be for the best |
| 14:05 | <shane> | much agreed. i take it you're told out to attend a hs dance in the early 2000s? |
| 14:05 | <shane> | too old* |
| 14:06 | <shane> | f*** that song. |
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| 14:11 | <HoopyCat> | shane: haven't been to a dance since junior high, and that was... 1992? |
| 14:11 | <shane> | heh |
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| 15:54 | <mendel> | my pony request of the day: a network graph that shows how much of our monthly limit we've used up, rather than just throughput |
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