| --- | Log | opened Thu Mar 27 00:00:48 2008 |
| 00:01 | <warewolf> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 735M Mar 27 00:00 ratemylinode.com-access_log |
| 00:01 | <warewolf> | uh |
| 00:01 | <warewolf> | methinks it's time to truncate that file. |
| 00:01 | <path_> | rotate? |
| 00:01 | <path_> | compress |
| 00:01 | <warewolf> | never was rotated |
| 00:01 | <warewolf> | lazy me |
| 00:02 | <path_> | at work we have some access logs going back to the 90s |
| 00:02 | <path_> | found that the other day and was "hmm interesting" and went about my business |
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| 00:10 | <Talman> | Needs more granting of license since you copyrighted them. |
| 00:11 | * | Talman doesn't use the Linode trademark on my website, for example, till I has a license. |
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| 00:44 | <arooni> | question about basic_auth: http://pastie.caboo.se/171330 |
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| 00:51 | <booja> | I don't know for certain |
| 00:51 | <booja> | but you might be able to do driectory directives for those two supdirs |
| 00:51 | <booja> | that specify no pass |
| 00:51 | <booja> | maybe, dunno |
| 00:51 | <internat85> | so out of coriosuty, does anyone here have any experience wiith configuring postfix/amavisd/spam assassin in detail. LIke to the level of being able to have customizable rules based on an address/domain done via a mysql look up? |
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| 01:11 | <arooni> | -bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 01:11 | <arooni> | how do i fix that |
| 01:14 | <chesty> | /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 01:15 | <internat85> | are youroot? |
| 01:17 | <encode> | no. are you? |
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| 01:19 | <internat85> | yes |
| 01:19 | <internat85> | i am god |
| 01:20 | <encode> | rubbush |
| 01:25 | <internat85> | how do you know ;) |
| 01:25 | <internat85> | anywho.. changing topics before i start a religious debate |
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| 01:41 | <internat85> | oi mwalling wake up :P |
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| 01:55 | <mjsotn> | Can't connect to my Linode via SSH after Xen migration ... on the console I am seeing lots of can't load module errors. |
| 01:56 | <bd_> | modules? The xen kernel has everything built in (modules allowed, but not needed for anything you can use UML for) |
| 01:56 | <bd_> | can you pastebin some of the errors? |
| 01:56 | <bd_> | also log in on the console and get the output of ifconfig |
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| 02:20 | <mjsotn> | nope can't log in either |
| 02:21 | <mjsotn> | it looks live everything has started, ssh, postfix, etc etc ... but no login prompt ... does Xen not use tty0 like UML does? |
| 02:22 | <bd_> | It doesn't, there should be a config helper to fix it up though |
| 02:22 | <bd_> | check the config profile and enable xenify distro |
| 02:22 | <bd_> | I don't know if it has the intended effect on ubuntu though, as ubuntu doesn't use traditional inittab |
| 02:23 | <bd_> | oh, I think I know what happened |
| 02:23 | <bd_> | MAC address changes -> udev changes network device name |
| 02:23 | <bd_> | :/ |
| 02:23 | <bd_> | Boot with init=/bin/sh read-write |
| 02:24 | <bd_> | and delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules |
| 02:24 | <mjsotn> | ok |
| 02:25 | <bd_> | also if on ubuntu, make sure /etc/event.d/tty1 references actually /dev/tty1 in the getty invocation (and that it has the appropriate start on runlevel ... lines) |
| 02:28 | <mjsotn> | so it's tty1 on Xen not tty0? |
| 02:28 | <bd_> | yep |
| 02:33 | <mjsotn> | ok here we go |
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| 02:36 | <mjsotn> | awesome, thanks man, removing those udev files did the trick. |
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| 02:43 | <mjsotn> | later, and thanks again. |
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| 03:39 | <spasmface> | hello |
| 03:40 | <spasmface> | ive been thinking of expanding into a vps from my shared hosting, been recommend linode |
| 03:40 | <spasmface> | whats the uptime |
| 03:42 | <Battousai> | quite good on the hosts, you can see the various reboots and maintenance notifications here: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=25 |
| 03:42 | <Battousai> | the uptime of your own linode and the servers running within it is up to you though |
| 03:46 | <spasmface> | of course cool |
| 03:47 | <spasmface> | im reading that its a good idea to run lighttpd, is that pretty easy to install ? |
| 03:48 | <Battousai> | when i implemented it, there was a small learning curve |
| 03:48 | <Battousai> | didn't take long at all for me to get it going |
| 03:48 | <Battousai> | that was a couple of years ago, so the documentation is probably much better nowadays |
| 03:48 | <spasmface> | sweet |
| 03:51 | <spasmface> | is there link on comparisons on what distro to use |
| 03:54 | <spasmface> | *signs up* |
| 04:04 | <spasmface> | thanks for your help Battousai |
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| 04:46 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: postfix help needed in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3178>; |
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| 05:58 | <erian> | Hello |
| 06:00 | <erian> | where I'm can find the DNS name server used by Linode? |
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| 06:41 | -!- | Hobbsee is now known as Guest2785 |
| 06:41 | -!- | Hobbsee` is now known as Hobbsee |
| 06:45 | <Hobbsee> | interesting. |
| 06:47 | <Hobbsee> | wonder why it's mandatory to log in with lish before logging in via ssh |
| 06:49 | <Hobbsee> | as in, that first time |
| 06:49 | <Hobbsee> | my linode appeared to crash |
| 06:49 | <Hobbsee> | and wouldn't respond to ssh (connection refused) |
| 06:49 | <Hobbsee> | SpaceHobo: this was a migration to xen |
| 06:51 | <Talman> | Did the network /device/ name change? |
| 06:52 | <Hobbsee> | it still says eth0? |
| 06:52 | <Talman> | I guess not, then. Weird. |
| 06:54 | <spasmface> | how long does it usually take for a new account to be setup? |
| 06:55 | <Talman> | The account must be manually activated. |
| 06:55 | <Talman> | And the company is on ET -0500 GMT. |
| 06:55 | <spasmface> | cool :) |
| 06:56 | <Talman> | Basically, when someone awakens (they are ridiclious in that they login and do stuff even after hours, so it may happen at any time, actually), does the fraud check, and then either activates or requests additional info. |
| 06:56 | <spasmface> | cheers |
| 06:56 | <spasmface> | im excited |
| 06:57 | <spasmface> | my first big move away from shared hosting |
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| 07:01 | <Talman> | Enjoy your VPS. |
| 07:02 | <Talman> | Do you have experience with managing a Linux system, btw? These come pretty empty, so you can configure it the way you want. |
| 07:02 | <spasmface> | thanks, yeh i think ill be fine |
| 07:03 | <spasmface> | ive run linux a few times as a desktop and on a little home server for fun |
| 07:03 | <spasmface> | and im on osx and always bash'n it up |
| 07:04 | <spasmface> | i plan on installing freenx, desktop manager, lighttpd with myswld,fastgi,php5 |
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| 07:05 | <spasmface> | and im still figuring out which xml socket server to run |
| 07:05 | <Talman> | freenx? |
| 07:05 | <Talman> | Um, what size linode did you buy? |
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| 07:05 | <spasmface> | not big to start with |
| 07:05 | <Talman> | 360? |
| 07:06 | <spasmface> | 540 |
| 07:07 | * | Talman would caution about running both a server and XWindows. |
| 07:07 | <Talman> | For performance purposes, etc. |
| 07:07 | <spasmface> | oh really? |
| 07:07 | <Talman> | Plus the NX server, etc. |
| 07:07 | <spasmface> | well i dont need xwindows |
| 07:07 | <spasmface> | or freenx |
| 07:07 | <spasmface> | jsut wouldve been cool :P |
| 07:07 | <Talman> | If you're running a server, I'd run a server, cli. |
| 07:07 | <Talman> | That way the system resources are dedicated to serving your stuff. |
| 07:07 | <spasmface> | yeh good idea |
| 07:08 | <spasmface> | thanks, i gotta run, mrs wants to goto sleep |
| 07:08 | <spasmface> | night! |
| 07:08 | <Talman> | Night. |
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| 07:17 | <mwalling> | internat85: what |
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| 08:05 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hello , is there anyone that ported his Linode to Xen Xeon and now it's impossibile to boot it (still at boot with 'freeing kernel unused memory' message) ? |
| 08:06 | <Hobbsee> | SystemFAILURE: possibly. |
| 08:06 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hobbsee: who ? |
| 08:06 | <Hobbsee> | SystemFAILURE: me. |
| 08:06 | <SystemFAILURE> | ! |
| 08:06 | <SystemFAILURE> | Solved ? |
| 08:06 | <Hobbsee> | SystemFAILURE: i didn't have my ssh keys, so couldn't get into lish though |
| 08:06 | <Hobbsee> | yeah. i waited ~8 hours until i got home, and had ssh keys again |
| 08:06 | <Hobbsee> | shut it down, booted it again, logged into lish, and ssh worked fine. |
| 08:07 | <SystemFAILURE> | What does ssh keys matter with system boot ? |
| 08:07 | <SystemFAILURE> | However i'm going to try rewriting ssh keys |
| 08:10 | <SystemFAILURE> | Done .. Boot job done |
| 08:10 | <SystemFAILURE> | Now i'm going to have lunch , cya |
| 08:11 | <Hobbsee> | SystemFAILURE: determines whether you can get to lish or not, and can therefore see where it broke. |
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| 08:24 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hobbsee: but i can login in lish !!! |
| 08:24 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hobbsee: and it stills in : |
| 08:24 | <SystemFAILURE> | Write protecting the kernel text: 4220k |
| 08:24 | <SystemFAILURE> | Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 984k |
| 08:25 | <SystemFAILURE> | I tryed leaving it in that state for ~6 hours |
| 08:25 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nothing happens |
| 08:27 | <SystemFAILURE> | Trying to boot without Xenify .. |
| 08:29 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hobbsee: nothing still unable to boot :E |
| 08:29 | <SystemFAILURE> | IDEA |
| 08:30 | <SystemFAILURE> | Maybe its because i ported SWAP from 256 to 512 ! It says 'kernel memory' somewhere |
| 08:30 | <SystemFAILURE> | Trying disperately :( |
| 08:30 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: thanks |
| 08:31 | <@caker> | SystemFAILURE: it boots into single user mode fine .. still looking |
| 08:32 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: did u boot it ? |
| 08:32 | <SystemFAILURE> | I just shutted down it ~1/2 minutes ago and now it's running |
| 08:32 | <@caker> | yes, that's how I knew it booted into single user mode |
| 08:33 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: mmh .. maybe 'cause i removed sysvinit and installed upstart ?? if it can be , do for me 'apt-get install sysvinit' (it automagically removes upstart too) |
| 08:34 | <Nigel> | morning caker |
| 08:35 | <@caker> | SystemFAILURE: you can do that yourself .. Set the "init=/bin/bash" option in your config profile, boot, connect with Lish, "mount -o remount,rw /", mount /proc /sys, bring up networking, apt-get whatever |
| 08:35 | <@caker> | SystemFAILURE: but, your upstart config looks ok to me |
| 08:35 | <@caker> | Nigel: hello |
| 08:36 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: yes but Xen is in beta , so everything is possible .. mmh maybe a problem of Xenhost37 ? |
| 08:36 | <SystemFAILURE> | *host38 |
| 08:36 | <@caker> | doubtful |
| 08:36 | <Nigel> | ohhh that reminds me, I don't need my 2nd node anmore |
| 08:37 | <Nigel> | btw, what UML kernel version are we up to now? |
| 08:37 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: i'm going to try to reinstall sysvinit |
| 08:38 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: ehi , maybe that it's caused by the additional swap ? i ported it from 256 to 512 |
| 08:38 | <@caker> | doubtful |
| 08:38 | <SystemFAILURE> | Okay trying with sysvinit reinstall |
| 08:41 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: problem |
| 08:41 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/# ifup eth0 |
| 08:41 | <SystemFAILURE> | ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory |
| 08:41 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/# |
| 08:42 | <@caker> | /etc/init.d/networking restart ? shrug |
| 08:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/# /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 08:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | * Configuring network interfaces... ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory |
| 08:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | [fail] |
| 08:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/# |
| 08:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | (sorry for the in-channel paste) |
| 08:43 | <@caker> | is /var a mount? |
| 08:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nope |
| 08:44 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/var/run# cd network |
| 08:44 | <SystemFAILURE> | bash: cd: network: No such file or directory |
| 08:44 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/var/run# |
| 08:44 | <@caker> | is /var/run a mount? :) |
| 08:44 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nope . |
| 08:45 | <SystemFAILURE> | OPZ |
| 08:45 | <SystemFAILURE> | IT IS |
| 08:45 | <SystemFAILURE> | Er |
| 08:45 | * | caker bonks SystemFAILURE |
| 08:45 | <SystemFAILURE> | mount /var/run # done |
| 08:45 | <SystemFAILURE> | But the directory still doesn't exist |
| 08:45 | <@caker> | cd out of it |
| 08:45 | <SystemFAILURE> | Done |
| 08:47 | <SystemFAILURE> | ? |
| 08:52 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: alooone .. what should i do ? |
| 08:53 | <@caker> | What do you think about making that directory? |
| 08:53 | <SystemFAILURE> | But it searches for the file 'ifstate' |
| 08:54 | <@caker> | ... |
| 08:54 | <@caker> | mkdir /var/run/network; touch /var/run/network/ifstate; /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 08:54 | <@caker> | cmon man, you know this stuff |
| 08:55 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: did this : 'mkdir /var/run/network && ifup eth0' |
| 08:55 | <SystemFAILURE> | It's up now |
| 08:55 | <SystemFAILURE> | Installing sysvinit |
| 08:55 | <SystemFAILURE> | Error :'( |
| 08:55 | <SystemFAILURE> | Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) |
| 08:55 | <SystemFAILURE> | dpkg: dpkg - error: PATH is not set. |
| 08:56 | <SystemFAILURE> | PATH |
| 08:56 | <SystemFAILURE> | What should i assign to that var ? |
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| 08:58 | <Nigel> | something like /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin is a good start |
| 09:00 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/# PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 09:00 | <SystemFAILURE> | root@(none):/# set | grep PATH |
| 09:00 | <SystemFAILURE> | PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 09:00 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nigel: but it still says 'path is not set' |
| 09:01 | <Nigel> | thats strange |
| 09:02 | <Nigel> | then again, I'm no Xen fanboy |
| 09:02 | <SystemFAILURE> | :( |
| 09:03 | <@caker> | export PATH ? |
| 09:03 | <Nigel> | I'm happyly on UML |
| 09:03 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: doooooone !! |
| 09:03 | <SystemFAILURE> | And done dpkg |
| 09:04 | <SystemFAILURE> | sysvinit installed |
| 09:04 | <SystemFAILURE> | Trying to boot with it .. |
| 09:04 | <SystemFAILURE> | I hope .. |
| 09:04 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: if it fails can u reconfigure my Linode for another migration to UML ? |
| 09:05 | <Nigel> | ouch, I'm ashamed, I'm still on the 2.6.20 kernel :S |
| 09:05 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nigel: mmh i remember that the latest is 2.6.24.2 |
| 09:06 | <SystemFAILURE> | (maybe) |
| 09:06 | <Nigel> | 2.6.23 according the Dashboard |
| 09:06 | <SystemFAILURE> | mmh read for development kernels |
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| 09:07 | <Nigel> | I have 7GB of unassigned Disk Space, and ~120MB RAM that can't be used |
| 09:08 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nigel: uh ? why cannot it be used ? |
| 09:08 | <Nigel> | I can't be bothered typing 'init 0' |
| 09:08 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: reboot the Linode of Nigel |
| 09:08 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 09:08 | <SystemFAILURE> | lol |
| 09:09 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nigel: or if you want you can donate me it ;) |
| 09:09 | <Nigel> | haha, I have a 2nd Linode that I don't really need anymore |
| 09:10 | <SystemFAILURE> | Nigel: then donate it to me :P |
| 09:11 | <Nigel> | hmmmm maybe.... maybe not.... :P |
| 09:12 | <Nigel> | personally, I'm having a bit of fun with this linode atm, (without having to reboot), setup postfix to handle as a mail forwarder to an exchange setup at home |
| 09:12 | <Nigel> | (runs thru the VPN that I setup) |
| 09:14 | <Nigel> | mikegrb: ummmm, are the private IPs meant to get Reverse DNS? |
| 09:15 | <@mikegrb> | Nigel: no |
| 09:16 | <Nigel> | hmmm, in that case I think I found a bug |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 09:16 | <Nigel> | if you setup Private IP, and go into the RDNS manager, it shows the IP and a reverse DNS |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | it's on the list |
| 09:16 | <@mikegrb> | <3 |
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| 09:16 | <Nigel> | ahhh goodie |
| 09:16 | <Nigel> | just seems a bit strange thats all (not complaining) |
| 09:18 | <Nigel> | Hmmm, it'd be nifty if the RDNS manager was linked from the DNS Manager too |
| 09:18 | <Nigel> | kinda like "More Options: Manage Reverse DNS" |
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| 09:39 | <r3z> | Hi all. |
| 09:40 | <Hobbsee> | blink. |
| 09:40 | * | Hobbsee looks at this ram usage again |
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| 09:41 | * | r3z is looking to get a linode box but I am worried when I transfer from my current host I will go over my bandwidth limit |
| 09:41 | <r3z> | is there any way to get around that? |
| 09:41 | <Hobbsee> | r3z: the bandwidth limit from your current host? |
| 09:41 | <mwalling> | r3z: how much do you have? |
| 09:41 | <r3z> | Nevermind I am dumb |
| 09:41 | <r3z> | hah |
| 09:41 | <@tasaro> | how would that happen? |
| 09:42 | * | r3z was looking at something wrong. |
| 09:42 | * | r3z goes off to hide in a corner. |
| 09:42 | * | Hobbsee wonders at all the free memory |
| 09:42 | <@caker> | 1.21 gigawatts |
| 09:42 | <scott> | powa |
| 09:43 | * | mwalling used 1.4 MWh last month :( |
| 09:43 | * | scott steals mwalling's cray |
| 09:43 | <r3z> | You are given certain amount of hardware limits does that mean you can creat as many vm's as you want in those specific specs? |
| 09:43 | <r3z> | Or is it one vm per account? |
| 09:43 | <Hobbsee> | so, is there more free memory on xen, as in, free free, or just more memory which isn't showing up in cache? |
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| 09:43 | <Hobbsee> | r3z: you can only boot one at a time. |
| 09:43 | <@tasaro> | you can create as many as you want |
| 09:44 | <@tasaro> | but, what Hobbsee said |
| 09:44 | <@tasaro> | So you can boot between them, even share disk images between them |
| 09:44 | <@tasaro> | but only one booted at a time, unless you add a second Linode |
| 09:44 | * | r3z will have to brush back up on his linux mail admin skills so I can get my emails set. |
| 09:44 | <r3z> | Do you get to pick the DC you want to be in? |
| 09:44 | <@tasaro> | yes, based on availability |
| 09:45 | <r3z> | ok.\ |
| 09:45 | <@tasaro> | !avail-dallas |
| 09:45 | <@linbot> | tasaro: Dallas360 - 5, Dallas540 - 0, Dallas720 - 0, Dallas1080 - 0, Dallas1440 - 0 |
| 09:45 | <@tasaro> | !avail-atlanta |
| 09:45 | <@linbot> | tasaro: Atlanta360 - 5, Atlanta540 - 0, Atlanta720 - 0, Atlanta1080 - 0, Atlanta1440 - 0 |
| 09:45 | <@tasaro> | !avail-fremont |
| 09:45 | <@linbot> | tasaro: Fremont360 - 2, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 |
| 09:45 | <r3z> | I would like atlanta but I am thinking about having a personal ircd and cant have the blocked ports. |
| 09:45 | <r3z> | Is the Atlanta DC at 55marietta st? |
| 09:45 | <r3z> | I had a cage there previously. |
| 09:46 | <@tasaro> | I believe they moved form there to open their own facility |
| 09:46 | <@caker> | no, they moved out of that building into their own |
| 09:46 | <r3z> | 55marietta is a good DC. |
| 09:47 | <@tasaro> | alternate ports are an option |
| 09:47 | <Hobbsee> | caker: any idea why ssh, etc, wouldn't have automatically come up on the newly-switched-to-xen boxen? |
| 09:47 | <@caker> | Hobbsee: no. logview via Lish perhaps? |
| 09:48 | <r3z> | I prefer normal ports. |
| 09:48 | <@caker> | Hobbsee: if saves the last 200 lines of the previous boot -- perhaps some clues in there |
| 09:48 | <rich> | oh, that reminds me. where in dallas is the dallas dc? |
| 09:48 | <rich> | eek! |
| 09:48 | <r3z> | I might stick with Dallas. |
| 09:48 | <@caker> | s/if/it |
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| 09:48 | <mendel> | phew |
| 09:49 | <Hobbsee> | caker: too late now. i didn't have my ssh keys with me. i don't suppose you have records? |
| 09:50 | <@tasaro> | mendel: We use The Planet in Dallas |
| 09:50 | <mendel> | oh, I suppose I knew that. thanks :) |
| 09:50 | <r3z> | What mail package is included in the default installs of the distros? |
| 09:50 | <@caker> | Hobbsee: looking at your last console log, it booted successfully ... |
| 09:51 | <Hobbsee> | caker: yeah, would ahve been ~12 hours go |
| 09:51 | <Hobbsee> | er, ago |
| 09:51 | <@caker> | not sure what to tell you without being able to inspect it in that state |
| 09:51 | <mendel> | r3z: Depends on the distro, afaik |
| 09:52 | <@caker> | Hobbsee: right -- by "last" I mean the one before the current boot log |
| 09:52 | <Hobbsee> | caker: no problem, i thought it may be useful to you guys. |
| 09:52 | <Hobbsee> | caker: ahhh. yeah, no, that's recent ;) |
| 09:52 | <@caker> | ok |
| 09:52 | <@caker> | it only saves the previous log :/ |
| 09:52 | <Hobbsee> | darn |
| 09:54 | <mwalling> | ok... so i set up rdns on my internal ip... who the hell is playing athoriative for 100.130.168.192.in-addr.arpa? |
| 09:54 | <@caker> | mikegrb: --^ |
| 09:55 | <@caker> | mwalling: those aren't supposed to show there |
| 09:55 | <mwalling> | caker: heh |
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| 10:13 | <path_> | caker, any reason you guys don't use any DCs near you? i imagine ny is expensive, but what about philly? |
| 10:13 | <@caker> | we |
| 10:13 | <@caker> | we're looking into it -- but the plan is to use one nearby before the end of the year or so |
| 10:14 | <path_> | cool |
| 10:16 | <path_> | one of the banks just built an obscene DC |
| 10:16 | <path_> | was first usa |
| 10:16 | <path_> | i don't know who bought who in the banking area |
| 10:16 | <path_> | but i go by this place every so often |
| 10:17 | <path_> | not that that is related to anything |
| 10:18 | <r3z> | How good are the performance gains on Xen as opposed to UML? |
| 10:18 | <r3z> | You guys seeing alot? |
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| 10:21 | <@caker> | r3z: well, Xen get you SMP for starters |
| 10:21 | <@caker> | that's the biggest gain ... it's also slightly more efficient |
| 10:22 | <r3z> | What benefits do customers see? |
| 10:22 | <r3z> | I am considering signing up for a vps with you guys and would look at xen hosting ;) |
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| 10:22 | * | r3z is debating leaving 1and1. I have been a customer of theirs for a long time and they ahve always done me right ;) |
| 10:23 | <@caker> | customers see multiple processors and faster CPU |
| 10:24 | <r3z> | On most distros are all the utilities (gcca nd so forth) included to compile custom installed softwre? |
| 10:24 | <Hobbsee> | caker: yeah! my htop output looks really weird! |
| 10:24 | <guinea-pig> | heh |
| 10:25 | <Hobbsee> | 4x L5335 @ 2.00GHz. nice. |
| 10:26 | <path_> | r3z, the distros are all the bare minimum i think.. i had to install the packages i wanted |
| 10:27 | <path_> | you can do whatever you want, except for custom kernels |
| 10:27 | <@caker> | apt-get install build-essential <-- done |
| 10:27 | <r3z> | heh ;) |
| 10:27 | <r3z> | No customer kerneles? |
| 10:27 | <path_> | not in UML |
| 10:27 | <r3z> | Xen? |
| 10:27 | <path_> | i saw suggestions that xen may happen one day :) |
| 10:27 | <@caker> | not under Xen, either -- but Xen allows modules |
| 10:28 | <path_> | ahhh |
| 10:28 | <JDLSpeedy> | caker: is it sometime in the future for that support? |
| 10:28 | <path_> | the kernels caker builds probably has everything you need or want |
| 10:28 | <mwalling> | JDLSpeedy: its here now |
| 10:28 | <guinea-pig> | and everything you wouldn't need, too |
| 10:28 | * | guinea-pig departs |
| 10:28 | <path_> | heh |
| 10:29 | <@caker> | --zomg-optimize! |
| 10:29 | <JDLSpeedy> | i mean for custom kernels |
| 10:30 | <mwalling> | caker: now that we have modules, you ever thought about pushing a bare kernel? |
| 10:30 | <path_> | i thought xen was like vmware where you could install anything inside the image |
| 10:30 | <r3z> | I thought so too. |
| 10:30 | <@mikegrb> | path_: I have a friend that is a network geek at first data |
| 10:30 | <path_> | i started reading on xen and got distracted.. i need to go back to that |
| 10:30 | <path_> | in bear, de? |
| 10:30 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 10:31 | <@mikegrb> | they have a bunch of DCs though |
| 10:31 | <JDLSpeedy> | caker: i just thought of something, custom kernels might not be a good idea anyways, couldn't they make a hosts passthrough to get back to the hosts computer and hack it? |
| 10:31 | <@mikegrb> | they do CC processing/atm stuffs |
| 10:31 | <path_> | i dunno what they call the data center.. i just knew it was built for first usa and it looks like a military complex |
| 10:31 | <path_> | i heard it was a backup to a main one in ohio |
| 10:32 | <path_> | it's impressive to drive by.. i can't imagine what it looks like inside |
| 10:32 | <path_> | a friend of mine used to work at astra zeneca's data center |
| 10:32 | <@mikegrb> | I believe it is a new one to replace/augment the DC they already have in DC |
| 10:32 | <path_> | then AZ hired IBM and IBM moved all the servers to some facilty up in connecticut |
| 10:32 | <r3z> | Only major DC i have been in is in Atlanta at 55 marietta st |
| 10:32 | <purrdeta> | The planet has a freaking awesome DC here in Dallas. |
| 10:33 | <r3z> | Looks crappy from outside |
| 10:33 | <path_> | i was in the astra zeneca one |
| 10:33 | <purrdeta> | aI am sure there is more than one too but th one I have driven by |
| 10:33 | <r3z> | Was an old hotel |
| 10:33 | <path_> | it was nice |
| 10:33 | <mendel> | path_: xen's paravirtualized -- performance gains at the expense of requiring the guest to know how to run in xen |
| 10:33 | <path_> | before they hired ibm |
| 10:33 | <path_> | mendel, kinda like what vmware tools does with vmware |
| 10:33 | <r3z> | What distros are allowed in Xen? All listed? |
| 10:34 | <path_> | hostmysite.com is based in delaware too |
| 10:34 | <mwalling> | r3z: yes |
| 10:34 | <path_> | they've got two DCs in industrial parks here |
| 10:34 | <mwalling> | r3z: including slackware, if you're so inclined |
| 10:34 | * | r3z used to like slack but not anymore |
| 10:34 | <path_> | i've known some people who worked for them... apprarently not a good employer |
| 10:34 | <r3z> | I am actually more of a RH or Debian based distro. |
| 10:35 | <path_> | one of my clients has their office in the same office park as hostmysite's main office |
| 10:35 | <path_> | i'm going to meet with him next week to discuss discontinueing their plan with them :) |
| 10:35 | <path_> | i'm hoping to sublet my linode |
| 10:35 | <path_> | heh |
| 10:36 | <mendel> | path_: No, even more so. A kernel that runs on a "xen" architecture instead of an "x86" one, basically. (Although that's really too far the other way.) |
| 10:36 | <mendel> | xen intentionally doesn't appear to be a hardware PC to the guest OS |
| 10:36 | <path_> | it would be nice if you could use a standard base kernel and just load xen modules |
| 10:36 | <mendel> | Nice, but slow. :) |
| 10:37 | <path_> | well if the xen architecture would be modularized.. then you could do standard base installs and just provide a way for vm's to insert their own modules without using custom kernels |
| 10:38 | <path_> | eh.. i've been using vmware too long, so i probably have a warped point of view |
| 10:38 | * | r3z is a huge ESX user ;) |
| 10:38 | <mendel> | Basically, xen and vmware don't do the same thing, even though they look like they do. Consider xen more like z/VM than VMware |
| 10:39 | <path_> | my employer is a huge ESX user |
| 10:39 | <path_> | :) |
| 10:39 | <mendel> | Or, start with the idea that xen is designed to virtualize Linux inside Linux, only -- and then consider the Windows and NetBSD xen ports to be surprising accomplishments :) |
| 10:39 | <mendel> | well, especially windows |
| 10:39 | <mendel> | netbsd runs everywhere |
| 10:39 | <mwalling> | even on my toaster |
| 10:40 | <path_> | well, xen is definitely impressive.. we've done some stuff at work with it.. but i never got into it too deep |
| 10:40 | <mendel> | path_: I know what you mean, a former employer of mine was a big esx user too |
| 10:40 | <r3z> | Any coupons out there right now for linode? ;) |
| 10:40 | * | path_ wants to see mwalling's toaster |
| 10:40 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 10:41 | <path_> | r3z, you can get more disk for a full year.. i think that is all |
| 10:41 | <mwalling> | actually... i wonder if i could take the board out of a NSLU2 and put that in my coffee maker |
| 10:41 | <path_> | we just upgraded everything to vcenter 2.5 and esx 3.5 |
| 10:42 | <r3z> | We havent moved to 3.5 yet. |
| 10:42 | <path_> | and got two new dell 2950's running 3i.. which is based on busybox instead of redhat linux |
| 10:42 | <path_> | very cool stuff |
| 10:42 | <r3z> | I work for a software company and we have a product for ESX. |
| 10:42 | <r3z> | 3i seems nifty because the small footprint. |
| 10:43 | <path_> | 3i is very nice |
| 10:43 | <path_> | it's 64mb footprint |
| 10:44 | <path_> | so applying updates to the host took five minutes |
| 10:44 | <path_> | and the redhat one took like 35 to install every package |
| 10:44 | <path_> | 3i compared to the full esx 3.5 |
| 10:45 | <@caker> | a modular kernel would be a pain to support updates to (would have to touch your filesystem and copy in the standard modules each time) |
| 10:45 | <path_> | ahhh |
| 10:45 | <path_> | that makes sense |
| 10:45 | <path_> | you could publish linode rpms and dpkg files :) |
| 10:46 | <@caker> | yeah, and get many support tickets for people that don't bother with it |
| 10:46 | <@caker> | I don't see the problem with how we're doing it now. And if Xen allows modules, you guys can extend it with whatever funky stuff you need on top of what we provide built in |
| 10:47 | <path_> | i didn't mean to imply there was a problem.. i guess i'm learning how vm's in xen work |
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| 10:48 | <r3z> | err |
| 10:48 | <path_> | i thought they used a standard i386 arch |
| 10:48 | <@caker> | version magic |
| 10:48 | <r3z> | Who you guys recommend for domain registrations? |
| 10:48 | <path_> | godaddy.com |
| 10:49 | <TJF> | godaddy = yes |
| 10:49 | <mwalling> | 1&1 :) |
| 10:50 | * | r3z currently uses 1and1 |
| 10:50 | <path_> | heh |
| 10:50 | <path_> | i've never tried to transfer a domain away from godaddy |
| 10:50 | <path_> | before godaddy i used network solutions |
| 10:50 | <path_> | but back then, i don't think there was any other choice |
| 10:51 | <TJF> | same here |
| 10:51 | <TJF> | netsol was the stuff back in the day |
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| 10:51 | <TJF> | bah |
| 10:52 | <atourino> | use name.com |
| 10:52 | <scott> | but they gave away free tshirts! |
| 10:52 | <atourino> | free private registrations and pretty cheap as well |
| 10:52 | <atourino> | really light and fast interface |
| 10:53 | <atourino> | Im slowly moving all my domains from godaddy to name.com as they expire and need renewing |
| 10:53 | <atourino> | just because godaddy's interface is a PITA |
| 10:53 | <atourino> | but godaddy has been good to me |
| 10:53 | <TJF> | atourino: i agree |
| 10:53 | <JasonF> | work uses register.com |
| 10:53 | <JasonF> | they have a nice aup |
| 10:53 | <path_> | my work uses educause.edu |
| 10:53 | <JasonF> | i used to use registerfly |
| 10:54 | <path_> | i don't think they have a choice :) |
| 10:54 | <JasonF> | but when renewal time comes, i'm going to xfer |
| 10:54 | <path_> | but we use godaddy for our ssl certs cause they are cheap |
| 10:54 | <atourino> | well... spacehobo thats if you run controversial sites |
| 10:55 | <atourino> | all my sites are pretty vanilla |
| 10:55 | <atourino> | so if you want to live on the edge then dont use godaddy |
| 10:55 | <TJF> | how can you not love bob parsons? |
| 10:55 | <atourino> | :) |
| 10:55 | <TJF> | http://www.bobparsons.com/NextGoDaddyGirl.html?watch=1#vid |
| 10:56 | <TJF> | confirms SpaceHobo's wingnut theory |
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| 10:58 | <atourino> | i reaaaaaaaaally doubt that's the whole story |
| 10:58 | <atourino> | and no |
| 10:58 | <atourino> | they are not controversial by my standards and no... dont put words in my mouth please |
| 11:00 | <path_> | i don't think both of bob's eyes look in the same direction |
| 11:00 | <atourino> | and i really dont want to get into a discussion over somethign trivial as this... so Im goign back to work |
| 11:01 | <atourino> | SpaceHobo yours as well |
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| 11:05 | <path_> | the one thing i fear with registrars is that they'll go belly up |
| 11:05 | <path_> | there was that one that went out of business one day and all their registrats were SOL |
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| 11:20 | <r3z> | I just signed up for a 360 ;) |
| 11:20 | <r3z> | FOr a full year |
| 11:21 | <neale> | ^5 |
| 11:22 | <r3z> | How do I swap to Xen? |
| 11:23 | <neale> | I guess you just name your swap partition "Xen" |
| 11:24 | <scott> | hobo. |
| 11:25 | <mendel> | r3z: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13235 |
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| 11:27 | <brupm> | Hi guys. |
| 11:28 | <r3z> | Found it ;) |
| 11:28 | <r3z> | How long does it take to migrate to Xen? |
| 11:29 | <mendel> | not sure, I'd expect minutes-to-hours to actually copy the data, but IIRC there isn't any room there right now, to be remedied in the next week or so |
| 11:29 | <mendel> | That last bit is from weak memory of a conversation here a couple days ago |
| 11:30 | <@caker> | we haz xen in fremont |
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| 11:36 | <mendel> | r3z can has xen! |
| 11:41 | <brupm> | Question, when looking at top, is the cpu usage for each process summed up more or less supposed to equal the total cpu usage? |
| 11:41 | <mendel> | brupm: It should equal the total userland cpu usage, I think. |
| 11:41 | <mendel> | Actually, hrm. |
| 11:42 | <brupm> | With one thit to my site I am seeing it spike to 70% usave |
| 11:42 | <brupm> | usage |
| 11:42 | <mendel> | brupm: If that's just for an instant, that's probably fine |
| 11:42 | <brupm> | But the processes only add up to 20 maybe |
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| 11:42 | <mendel> | brupm: What's your load average? |
| 11:43 | <brupm> | 0.0.2 |
| 11:43 | <brupm> | 0.02 |
| 11:43 | <mendel> | yeah, nothing to worry abot. |
| 11:43 | <brupm> | but I have another identical server running same gems same code base and the spike is only to 5% |
| 11:43 | <mendel> | at any *instant*, a process is either using 100% cpu or 0% cpu. :) |
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| 11:43 | <mendel> | so anything else is just averages over some time period. |
| 11:44 | <JasonF> | mendel: not EXACTLY |
| 11:44 | <mendel> | Yeah, I handwave. |
| 11:44 | <JasonF> | depends on SMP or no SMP |
| 11:45 | * | r3z now needs to point his domains over to the new linode box ;) |
| 11:45 | <JasonF> | which either way, it's using 100% of /a/ CPU |
| 11:45 | <JasonF> | but that's not the same as 100% cpu |
| 11:45 | * | JasonF takes off his pedantic hat |
| 11:45 | <mendel> | brupm: Look at the cpu numbers in the top of top's output first for overall utilization. |
| 11:46 | <brupm> | mendel: is that the number to the right of CPU(s) |
| 11:46 | <brupm> | ? |
| 11:46 | <mendel> | yeah |
| 11:46 | <mendel> | you'll see something like, uh |
| 11:46 | * | mendel tries to find a machine that's doing something |
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| 11:47 | <mendel> | Cpu(s): 40.7% us, 4.8% sy, 0.0% ni, 54.2% id, 0.3% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si |
| 11:47 | <brupm> | Cpu(s): 10.6%us, 2.4%sy, 0.0%ni, 87.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
| 11:47 | <mendel> | the CPUs on that box are spending 40% of their time on user processes, 4% on system calls, 0.3% waiting for IO, and 54% idle |
| 11:47 | <mendel> | yours, 10% user, 2.4% system, 87.1% idle. Lots of room. :) |
| 11:48 | <brupm> | My concern became out of the site actually not working after a deploy. But it seems to be back to normal now |
| 11:48 | <brupm> | which scares me |
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| 11:49 | <mendel> | brupm: I really like munin for monitoring -- "what are the numbers right now" is often not so useful if you don't have "what were the numbers like before now" :) |
| 11:49 | <brupm> | right |
| 11:50 | <brupm> | mendel: what I can say is, I have 2 cloned linodes running same gems and same codebase. the Beefier one spikes to 40%+ on request, the other one 0.4% |
| 11:51 | <mendel> | why i'm at linode now: http://www.lafferty.ca/2008/03/27/dreamhost-a-comedy-of-errors/ |
| 11:52 | <brupm> | well things seem to be normal now |
| 11:52 | <brupm> | I will look it constant monitoring tools |
| 11:52 | <brupm> | thanks |
| 11:52 | <brupm> | has anyone done mysql replication here? |
| 11:52 | <brupm> | 2 apps using same db one as slave (read-only) one as master? |
| 11:52 | * | mendel has |
| 11:53 | <brupm> | mendel: I will need to do that, how was your experience |
| 11:53 | <brupm> | ? |
| 11:53 | <path_> | you have to ensure your apps won't try to write to the slave |
| 11:53 | <mendel> | fine, mysql replication is very mature |
| 11:53 | <path_> | you can also do a round robin type thing |
| 11:53 | <mendel> | the "read-only" my.cnf option will let the slave process write but not user processes |
| 11:54 | <brupm> | right since it needs to replicate what changed in the master |
| 11:54 | <brupm> | path_: what do you mean round robin? |
| 11:54 | <path_> | i'm probably using the wrong term |
| 11:54 | <path_> | but you could set server-a to replicate to server-b and set server-b to replicate to server-a |
| 11:54 | <brupm> | my goal is to have 2 app servers looking at the same db and if one goes down I can switch to the other quickly |
| 11:55 | <mendel> | master-master. avoid unless necessary :) |
| 11:55 | <brupm> | mendel: master-master seems dangerous |
| 11:55 | <brupm> | I will only need slave is master ever goes down |
| 11:55 | <path_> | i use it one a pair of mx servers for my spam stuff |
| 11:55 | <brupm> | that is why I have linodes in 2 diff datacenters |
| 11:55 | <mendel> | brupm: I wouldn't use the load-balancing thing you described unless you know the load will be quite low anyhow. The problem is, if you have two database servers that run 60% when both are up, and one goes down... |
| 11:55 | <mendel> | brupm: master-master is dangerous, but it's possible. just a pain if you don't need it |
| 11:56 | <brupm> | yeah I dont need master-master |
| 11:56 | <mendel> | (and especially i wouldn't do mysql across the Internet in production) |
| 11:56 | <mendel> | are you running mysql on its own server, or is it sharing with the app? |
| 11:56 | <path_> | yea true |
| 11:56 | <path_> | it would be good to start one way |
| 11:56 | <r3z> | How long does one think it will take for a godaddy domain to notice I changed the nameservers and pick up and take off on the linode nameservers? |
| 11:56 | <brupm> | sharing with the app. |
| 11:56 | <r3z> | 24hrs? |
| 11:57 | <path_> | i changed my nameservers in godaddy and it was pretty instant |
| 11:57 | <mendel> | brupm: Strongly consider dedicating a box to mysql before doing anything else performance-related with load-balancing |
| 11:57 | <mendel> | r3z: They just tell the root servers to update. The root servers' NS records probably have a 48h TTL. |
| 11:57 | <brupm> | well, the site will not be hit too hard |
| 11:57 | <brupm> | it's the uptime I consider |
| 11:57 | <mendel> | r3z: What's your domain? |
| 11:57 | <r3z> | hrm it is still showing as a parked |
| 11:57 | <r3z> | photgraphybymyssi.com is the one I am showing. |
| 11:57 | <path_> | it could be cached too |
| 11:57 | <r3z> | I have a linode dns record now. |
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