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| 00:28 | <arooni> | path_, can i see your rpath config file? |
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| 03:07 | <arooni> | anyone here know how to get rdiff-backup running? i'm trying to follow but running into troubles on step 6: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/AutomatedRdiffBackup |
| 03:08 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: what error do you get? |
| 03:09 | <arooni> | Fatal Error: Truncated header string (problem probably originated remotely) |
| 03:09 | <arooni> | ssh: source: Name or service not known |
| 03:09 | <arooni> | for root@BigArooni:~/.ssh# rdiff-backup --test-server source-backup::/ignored |
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| 03:10 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: what does your .ssh/config say? |
| 03:11 | <arooni> | same as step 5 |
| 03:11 | <arooni> | on the destination |
| 03:11 | <Hobbsee> | did you change ' hostname source' to be what your hostname actually *is*? |
| 03:11 | <arooni> | Hobbsee, nope |
| 03:11 | * | Hobbsee applies cluebat to arooni |
| 03:11 | <arooni> | hey |
| 03:11 | <arooni> | it iddnt say to |
| 03:12 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: use hostname <yourhostnamehere> |
| 03:12 | <arooni> | url.com ? |
| 03:12 | <Hobbsee> | Furthermore, the terms "source" and "destination" are used throughout the document. "source" is the machine that you are wanting to backup. |
| 03:12 | <Hobbsee> | yes |
| 03:12 | <arooni> | Hobbsee, ok i changed the port off of 22 |
| 03:12 | <Hobbsee> | so antying there that says 'source' needs to be whatever the machine is that you want to back up |
| 03:12 | <arooni> | how do i tell it to use port 24156 |
| 03:13 | <arooni> | yes i think i got the rest right |
| 03:13 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: in that block of text, use Port 24156 |
| 03:13 | <arooni> | Hobbsee, after protocol 2? |
| 03:13 | <arooni> | everything looks in lower case |
| 03:13 | <Hobbsee> | yes |
| 03:14 | <arooni> | ok cool |
| 03:14 | <Hobbsee> | port appears to be upper case. i've not tried it with lower case |
| 03:14 | <arooni> | server may work but theres a version mismatch |
| 03:14 | <arooni> | yay! |
| 03:14 | <arooni> | ocal version: 1.1.14; Remote version: 1.1.5 |
| 03:14 | <arooni> | local version is pretty old it looks like |
| 03:15 | <arooni> | In general, an attempt is made to guarantee compatibility only between |
| 03:15 | <arooni> | different minor versions of the same stable series. For instance, you |
| 03:15 | <arooni> | should expect 0.12.4 and 0.12.7 to be compatible, but not 0.12.7 |
| 03:15 | <arooni> | and 0.13.3, nor 0.13.2 and 0.13.4. .. sounds like i'm ok |
| 03:17 | <arooni> | ok: advince on which directories i should backup? |
| 03:18 | <Hobbsee> | /home? |
| 03:19 | <arooni> | i was thinking /etc/ /var/ /home/ |
| 03:25 | <arooni> | root@BigArooni:/etc/cron.daily# /etc/cron.daily/rdiff-backup.sh |
| 03:25 | <arooni> | -bash: /etc/cron.daily/rdiff-backup.sh: Permission denied |
| 03:25 | <arooni> | whats up with that |
| 03:26 | <Hobbsee> | chmod +x it. |
| 03:26 | <Hobbsee> | it's probably not executable |
| 03:27 | <Hobbsee> | curses. i broke my rdiff backup stuff when using one time passwords. |
| 03:27 | <Hobbsee> | wonder why it didn't like the key |
| 03:27 | <arooni> | theres a typo on |
| 03:27 | <arooni> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/AutomatedRdiffBackup |
| 03:27 | <arooni> | where he creates the directory names backups |
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| 03:27 | <arooni> | and then creates a cron file telling it it the source is /backup/source |
| 03:27 | <Hobbsee> | it's a wiki. you can edit it |
| 03:28 | * | Hobbsee looks |
| 03:28 | <arooni> | i have to create an account |
| 03:28 | <arooni> | boo too much work |
| 03:28 | <Hobbsee> | where's the typo? |
| 03:28 | <arooni> | destination# mkdir -p /backups/source |
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| 03:28 | <arooni> | then |
| 03:28 | <Hobbsee> | oh yeah, i see it |
| 03:28 | <arooni> | ok |
| 03:29 | <arooni> | plus he should probably +x the script |
| 03:29 | <arooni> | oh noes |
| 03:29 | <arooni> | Fatal Error: Unable to create directory /backup/source |
| 03:29 | <arooni> | why is it complaining about that |
| 03:29 | <arooni> | there is a /backup/source |
| 03:30 | <Hobbsee> | what user are you using to do the backup, and what are the permissions on /backup/source? |
| 03:30 | <arooni> | i'm getting further now |
| 03:30 | <arooni> | to answer ur qs; |
| 03:30 | <arooni> | root |
| 03:31 | <arooni> | and drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-03-26 00:30 backup |
| 03:31 | <arooni> | drwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-03-26 00:30 source |
| 03:31 | <Hobbsee> | hmmm |
| 03:32 | <arooni> | i'm getting a bit further: http://pastie.caboo.se/170764 |
| 03:32 | <Hobbsee> | do i want to ask why you're using a key without a password on it, to access your linode as the root user? |
| 03:32 | <arooni> | i dont follow |
| 03:32 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: are you using gutsy? |
| 03:33 | <arooni> | gutsy for the destination; debian etch for the source |
| 03:33 | <Hobbsee> | and is that error reproducable? |
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| 03:33 | <Hobbsee> | oh, hence the .14 |
| 03:33 | <arooni> | what error being reproducable |
| 03:33 | <arooni> | that shouldnt matter |
| 03:33 | <Hobbsee> | the one that's in the pastebin |
| 03:34 | <arooni> | well it happens everytime i run the script |
| 03:34 | <arooni> | so i think its reproducable |
| 03:34 | <arooni> | ;p |
| 03:35 | <arooni> | Hobbsee, any ideaz? |
| 03:35 | <Hobbsee> | i'd suspect that the program is crashing, and is'nt working, due to the differing versions. |
| 03:35 | <Hobbsee> | yeah. upgrade your etch version. |
| 03:35 | <arooni> | ok, so should i first uninstall the package |
| 03:35 | <arooni> | cuz i think it came from debian |
| 03:36 | <Hobbsee> | you don't need to. it'll just overwrite it |
| 03:36 | <arooni> | is that ok |
| 03:36 | <arooni> | without first getting rid of the package |
| 03:36 | <Hobbsee> | yes |
| 03:36 | <arooni> | what version do i want |
| 03:36 | <Hobbsee> | this is hwo upgrades of packages work. |
| 03:36 | <arooni> | 1.1..15 |
| 03:36 | <Hobbsee> | the same as what you've got on gutsy. |
| 03:36 | <arooni> | i dont see where i can download it |
| 03:36 | <arooni> | from their site |
| 03:37 | <Hobbsee> | if you cant get 1.1.14, then you'll probably need to upgrade both to 1.1.15 |
| 03:37 | <arooni> | but a little fiddling |
| 03:37 | <arooni> | with their URLs give me the file |
| 03:37 | <Hobbsee> | 1.1.15 is in unstable, and launchpad.net/~hobbsee/+archive has the gutsy one. |
| 03:38 | <internat85> | Hobbsee: i have root ssh logins only allowed for forced commands.. so a root key password only lets in the command that it needs to run.. for this case rdiff-backup :) |
| 03:38 | <arooni> | i think i'll standardize on 1.1.14 dont you agree? |
| 03:38 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: if you like, and if you can actually get working packages on boht distros. |
| 03:38 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: yeah, that makes it safer. that's what i'm doing, although mine's currently barfing, and isn't accepting the key. |
| 03:39 | <arooni> | _librsyncmodule.c:25:22: error: librsync.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:39 | <arooni> | anyone know which package is needed there |
| 03:39 | <internat85> | permissions on the key? |
| 03:39 | <internat85> | is the right key even being used? |
| 03:39 | <internat85> | ssh has a verbose mode.. try using that |
| 03:40 | <internat85> | just try connecting directly with the key, it should start rdiff-backup --server on the other end |
| 03:40 | <Hobbsee> | arooni: rsync. |
| 03:40 | <internat85> | why have you not installed this via apt? |
| 03:40 | <Hobbsee> | actually, librsync-dev |
| 03:40 | <arooni> | ok this looks better? its taking a bunch of time |
| 03:40 | <arooni> | with no errors yet |
| 03:41 | <arooni> | internat85, @ me? i use aptitude |
| 03:41 | <internat85> | same diff |
| 03:41 | <arooni> | internat85, in this case i'm trying to make the versions match up |
| 03:41 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: etch is too old. |
| 03:41 | <internat85> | not really |
| 03:41 | <arooni> | how long does it take for |
| 03:41 | <internat85> | 1.1.5 |
| 03:41 | <arooni> | any results? |
| 03:41 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: what permissions do i actually need? |
| 03:41 | <arooni> | i've been seeing this thing pause |
| 03:41 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: other one is 1.1.14, so a bit of difference :) |
| 03:42 | <internat85> | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 1 2006 authorized_keys -> authorized_keys2 |
| 03:42 | <internat85> | -rw------- 1 root root 437 Dec 23 2005 authorized_keys2 |
| 03:42 | <internat85> | the first time it runs it could take a long while |
| 03:42 | <arooni> | ok awesome |
| 03:42 | <internat85> | cause it has to copy and hash eveyrthing |
| 03:42 | <arooni> | so you folks all use this? |
| 03:42 | <internat85> | yep |
| 03:42 | <internat85> | i back my linode up to my dreamhost account nightly |
| 03:43 | <arooni> | ok |
| 03:43 | <internat85> | works fantasticly |
| 03:43 | <arooni> | what bout databases |
| 03:43 | <arooni> | do you do it separately? |
| 03:43 | <internat85> | at the moment i dont, but im about to start using mylvmbackup |
| 03:43 | <internat85> | which works with mysql being on a lvm partition, taking a lvm snapshot, and then backing that up |
| 03:43 | <arooni> | ok should i expect this to backup my dbs? |
| 03:43 | <arooni> | or should i be doing a separate backup for those |
| 03:44 | <internat85> | i dunno.. ivenever managed to crash my database to find out how well my backups work |
| 03:44 | <internat85> | and my users havnt been stupid enuff to need a db restore |
| 03:45 | <tsp> | internat85: test your backups on another box if possible |
| 03:46 | <internat85> | yeah.. one day :P |
| 03:46 | <arooni> | how often should i run this nifty rdiff thing |
| 03:46 | <internat85> | i run it nightly |
| 03:46 | <arooni> | so what happens if |
| 03:46 | <arooni> | say your file system gets corrupted |
| 03:46 | <arooni> | and you're on vacation |
| 03:47 | <internat85> | define corrupted |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | and it destroys your backup during rdiff |
| 03:47 | <internat85> | rdiff stores incrementals |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | i dont know; ive had the case happen where my file system goes to shit |
| 03:47 | <internat85> | so u can go back to as far back as you want |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | and goes read only say |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | internat85, how much storage have you spent on all of your backups |
| 03:47 | <internat85> | 1 sec |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | i guess since its incremental |
| 03:47 | <internat85> | ill look it up |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | so itll be good |
| 03:47 | <arooni> | so why arent you folks doing say |
| 03:48 | <arooni> | backing up to s3? |
| 03:48 | <arooni> | for me.. it seemed like this would be easiest to restore from |
| 03:48 | <arooni> | in event of a crash |
| 03:48 | <arooni> | so i'm still not sure.... can i rely on this to backup my database for me? |
| 03:49 | <internat85> | you should test that |
| 03:49 | <internat85> | my linode has approximately 20gig of crap on it.. i have 430 nightly incremental backups.. |
| 03:49 | <internat85> | im just calculting the usage now |
| 03:49 | <internat85> | i dont backup everything though.. i skip apt/cache and some torrent folders |
| 03:50 | <internat85> | u could back up to s3 if u want.. i dont know if there is a reason not to.. i used to backup to dreamhost and home, i just let the home one lapse |
| 03:51 | <internat85> | (dreamhost du -hs is slow so its still calculating) |
| 03:51 | <arooni> | but |
| 03:51 | <arooni> | you couldnt backup in the same way |
| 03:52 | <arooni> | using rdiff |
| 03:52 | <arooni> | and it doesnt do incrementals |
| 03:52 | <arooni> | and bad for restoring? |
| 03:52 | <internat85> | u could if u use fuse or something |
| 03:52 | <Hobbsee> | debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /backup/.ssh/id_rsa_backup. |
| 03:52 | <Hobbsee> | interesting. |
| 03:52 | <internat85> | u didnt by anychance get the keys arround the wrong way did u? |
| 03:53 | <Hobbsee> | may well have done. |
| 03:53 | <Hobbsee> | but no, it should be right. tha'ts on the machine to be backed up |
| 03:53 | <arooni> | do you have PermitRootLogins without-password |
| 03:53 | <arooni> | that seems to be the best option |
| 03:53 | <Hobbsee> | nope |
| 03:53 | <internat85> | no |
| 03:53 | <arooni> | y not |
| 03:54 | <internat85> | i have permitrootlogics forced-commands |
| 03:54 | <internat85> | logins* |
| 03:54 | <arooni> | you guys are all fancy |
| 03:54 | <internat85> | that way if someone gets your backup key, they cant log in as root |
| 03:54 | <Hobbsee> | or just don't like our boxes haxored, |
| 03:54 | <arooni> | what sites do you guys run? |
| 03:54 | <internat85> | if they try connecting with that key, all that will happen is that `rdiff-backup --server` will be running directly on that ssh channel |
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| 03:55 | <internat85> | www.our-lan.com is mine |
| 03:55 | <internat85> | i have half a dozen business sites for various clients |
| 03:55 | * | Hobbsee isn't running anything overly interesting currently. |
| 03:55 | <internat85> | (still calculating disk usage) |
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| 03:56 | <arooni> | thats pretty awesome.... |
| 03:56 | <internat85> | last time i looked it wasnt that much. |
| 03:56 | <internat85> | its only used like 50gig of space |
| 03:56 | <Hobbsee> | debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN' |
| 03:56 | <Hobbsee> | debug3: key_read: missing keytype |
| 03:56 | <Hobbsee> | debug3: key_read: missing whitespace |
| 03:56 | * | Hobbsee scratches head |
| 03:56 | <arooni> | mine: http://www.phonemyphone.com http://www.craigslistautoresponder.com http://www.vibeslide.com and http://www.emptyspaceads.com |
| 03:56 | <arooni> | or http://www.keenscreen.com for a listing |
| 03:56 | <internat85> | Hobbsee interesting.. |
| 03:57 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: very! |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | [nfrankish@milk ~/.ssh][nfrankish@milk ~/.ssh]$ cat id_rsa_backup |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----- |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | thats the top of my rsa key |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | [nfrankish@milk ~/.ssh][nfrankish@milk ~/.ssh]$ cat config |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | host broken-backup |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | hostname broken.our-lan.com |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | identityfile /home/nfrankish/.ssh/id_rsa_backup |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | compression yes |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | cipher blowfish |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | protocol 2 |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | User root |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | ssh config for that host |
| 03:57 | <internat85> | i probably should have pastebin'd that |
| 03:58 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: yeah, same |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | [nfrankish@milk ~/.ssh][nfrankish@milk ~/.ssh]$ cat config |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | host broken-backup |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | hostname broken.our-lan.com |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | identityfile /home/nfrankish/.ssh/id_rsa_backup |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | compression yes |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | cipher blowfish |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | protocol 2 |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | User root |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | frig |
| 03:58 | <internat85> | export PYTHONPATH=/home/nfrankish/lib/python2.3/site-packages |
| 03:58 | <arooni> | i'm seeing |
| 03:59 | <arooni> | UpdateError sys/module/vt/parameters/underline Updated mirror temp file /backup/source/sys/module/vt/parameters/rdiff-backup.tmp.73411 does not match source |
| 03:59 | <arooni> | is that bad? |
| 03:59 | <internat85> | /home/nfrankish/bin/rdiff-backup --print-statistics --include-globbing-filelist /home/nfrankish/backups/linode-backup.conf broken-backup::/ /home/nfrankish/backups/linode <== that was what i wanted |
| 03:59 | <internat85> | err |
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| 03:59 | <internat85> | yeah thats right i guess |
| 03:59 | <internat85> | i have those errors appear occasionaly |
| 03:59 | <arooni> | internat85, same as my errors? |
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| 03:59 | <internat85> | UpdateError home/hosting/our-lan.com/logs Updated mirror temp file /home/nfrankish/backups/linode/home/hosting/our-lan.com/rdiff-backup.tmp.437 does not match source |
| 03:59 | <internat85> | UpdateError var/lib/mysql/apache2test/access_log.MYD Updated mirror temp file /home/nfrankish/backups/linode/var/lib/mysql/apache2test/rdiff-backup.tmp.2203 does not match source |
| 04:00 | <arooni> | ok good |
| 04:00 | <internat85> | yeah i get that occasionaly.. never really looked at why |
| 04:00 | <internat85> | the files have never been important |
| 04:00 | <internat85> | i think its just log files rotating and what not |
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| 04:00 | <internat85> | the files probably changed in between it hashing it, and copying it to the other end, and then hasing it there |
| 04:02 | <arooni> | is there a cool utility lik htop that lest u see incoming/outgoing network traffic? |
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| 04:02 | <internat85> | iftop |
| 04:03 | <Hobbsee> | oookay. so it's botched again |
| 04:03 | * | Hobbsee generated new keys, and discovered that those were apparently the wrong type of keys too |
| 04:04 | <Hobbsee> | because it's rsa v2, not v1 |
| 04:04 | <internat85> | err that shouldnt matter should it |
| 04:04 | <Hobbsee> | apparently so |
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| 04:07 | * | Hobbsee shrugs |
| 04:07 | * | Hobbsee has nfi why it doesn't work |
| 04:08 | <Hobbsee> | debug1: Next authentication method: publickey |
| 04:08 | <Hobbsee> | debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method |
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| 04:12 | <Hobbsee> | internat85: any idea? |
| 04:12 | <internat85> | not really.. |
| 04:13 | <Hobbsee> | wonder why i'ts whinign about a v1 key, not a v2 key |
| 04:13 | <internat85> | u dotn have ssh forced to v1 or anything stupid do u |
| 04:13 | <Hobbsee> | i doubt it |
| 04:14 | <Hobbsee> | it says protocol 2, so, n |
| 04:14 | <Hobbsee> | o |
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| 04:23 | <arooni> | rm -rf * && /etc/cron.daily/rdiff-backup.sh |
| 04:23 | <arooni> | does this run one command and then when done, run the other? |
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| 04:26 | <internat85> | sure |
| 04:26 | <internat85> | actually |
| 04:26 | <internat85> | maybe them both at the same time.. |
| 04:27 | <internat85> | really to run 1 after the other u want |
| 04:27 | <internat85> | rm -rf *; /etc/blah blah blah |
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| 04:55 | <internat85> | oh yeah arooni: 29G backups/linode |
| 04:56 | <internat85> | 430 daily incremental backups. of a 15-20gig file system |
| 04:56 | <internat85> | which is pretty friggen uber |
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| 04:57 | <anaoum> | is it possible to do an apt-get upgrade to ubuntu hardy heron? |
| 04:58 | <anaoum> | i just want to do it now |
| 04:58 | <anaoum> | so i can set up my vps |
| 04:58 | <anaoum> | i aint gonna have time in a month |
| 04:59 | <anaoum> | i wont need the distupgrade in a month |
| 04:59 | <anaoum> | just normal upgrade |
| 04:59 | <anaoum> | i do dist upgrade now |
| 05:00 | <internat85> | yeah i do that |
| 05:01 | <anaoum> | yeh thanks SpaceHobo |
| 05:01 | <anaoum> | do i have to worry about the kernel or what? |
| 05:01 | <internat85> | yeah.. i dun like unattented updates |
| 05:01 | <internat85> | if it breaks things i wanna be watching it |
| 05:01 | <anaoum> | but wont ubuntu try to upgrade it to its own |
| 05:02 | <anaoum> | own kernel * |
| 05:02 | <internat85> | so? |
| 05:02 | <internat85> | doesnt mean the upgrade wont break it |
| 05:02 | <internat85> | i might be that poor sod that it fails and breaks half my system :( |
| 05:02 | <internat85> | not good in a production enviroment |
| 05:03 | <internat85> | preference really :) |
| 05:04 | <internat85> | i just sit on the debian-security list :P |
| 05:04 | <internat85> | anything that comes in that i have on my box, i then go and update |
| 05:04 | <internat85> | ah.. i dun run ubuntu |
| 05:05 | <internat85> | it makes me cry that linode runs on ubuntu :( |
| 05:07 | <internat85> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDisnYe38io |
| 05:07 | <anaoum> | Thanks SpaceHobo - im upgrading now :) |
| 05:08 | <internat85> | Ubuntu's 'da bomb' |
| 05:08 | <internat85> | nah. |
| 05:08 | <internat85> | im pretty sure the new hosts are ubuntu |
| 05:09 | <anaoum> | damn E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on tzdata |
| 05:10 | <internat85> | havnt seen that before |
| 05:10 | <anaoum> | ok solved that |
| 05:10 | <anaoum> | had to do this first `apt-get install libstdc++6` |
| 05:11 | <internat85> | see |
| 05:11 | <internat85> | err |
| 05:11 | <internat85> | tell u what |
| 05:11 | <internat85> | run apt-get build-dep rdiff-backup |
| 05:11 | <internat85> | at least install the proper friggen depdencies |
| 05:18 | <anaoum> | is it normal to receive these sorta errors? "hwclock is unable to get I/O port access: the iopl(3) call failed." |
| 05:19 | <anaoum> | on bootup... |
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| 05:43 | <anaoum> | is it possible to copy the disk image of one linode to another? |
| 05:45 | <internat85> | rsync |
| 05:47 | <anaoum> | im sure this can be done in the linode manager |
| 05:47 | <anaoum> | caker told me it was possible earlier today! |
| 05:48 | <internat85> | i dont think u can do from one linode to another |
| 05:48 | <internat85> | if u can id be interested to know ho |
| 05:50 | <anaoum> | found it |
| 05:51 | <anaoum> | in Utilities theres "Clone this Linode to another Linode" |
| 05:51 | <internat85> | .. |
| 05:51 | <internat85> | oh rly |
| 05:51 | <internat85> | *goes looking* |
| 05:52 | <internat85> | UBER! |
| 05:52 | <internat85> | i remember wanting that feature ages ago |
| 05:53 | <anaoum> | hehe |
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| 05:54 | <anaoum> | its slow but :( 9.7% done, 10:07 to go, 3.62 MB/s |
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| 05:54 | <anaoum> | theyre in the same DC so id think it would be a bit faster |
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| 06:26 | <rick111> | morning friends! |
| 06:26 | <jadoba> | rick111: hello |
| 06:29 | * | jadoba woke up to find that someone sent in an improvement to his D-A article |
| 06:29 | <jadoba> | excitement ensued.... |
| 06:32 | <jadoba> | debian-administration.org |
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| 06:39 | <anaoum> | can someone help me out with setting up my private IPs. I'm getting this problem: |
| 06:39 | <anaoum> | http://pastebin.linode.com/640 |
| 06:39 | <mwalling> | does the device exist? |
| 06:40 | <anaoum> | well how do i know? |
| 06:40 | <anaoum> | i have rebooted it and still no luck :( |
| 06:40 | <jadoba> | ifconfig -a |
| 06:40 | <anaoum> | hmmm, there is a eth1_rename |
| 06:41 | <anaoum> | i think it has to do with the fact that i copied this linode over from another one |
| 06:41 | <mwalling> | aaah |
| 06:41 | <mwalling> | good old udev |
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| 06:42 | * | mwalling still wonders why the hell one would install udev on a *server*, nonetheless a linode |
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| 06:42 | <jadoba> | mwalling: afaik, it is not installed on the default Debian linode |
| 06:42 | <anaoum> | ahhhhh |
| 06:43 | <anaoum> | i have also upgraded this version of ubuntu to the latest 8.04 - beta |
| 06:43 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 06:43 | <anaoum> | lol |
| 06:43 | <anaoum> | so how can i deactivate this udev stuff? |
| 06:44 | <jadoba> | anaoum: did you get the interface debachle figured out yet? |
| 06:44 | <anaoum> | nope |
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| 06:45 | * | jadoba needs coffee and some fried polenta |
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| 06:46 | <jadoba> | you guys know how the first thing most cigarette smokers do when they wake up is light up? thats how I am with my machines... |
| 06:46 | * | anaoum needs help! |
| 06:47 | <anaoum> | jadoba: i bet u i am worse :P |
| 06:48 | <jadoba> | anaoum: how? |
| 06:50 | <anaoum> | i sleep with my machines :P |
| 06:51 | <jadoba> | anaoum: better than coding in your sleep |
| 06:51 | * | jadoba does that from time to time while working on intense projects |
| 06:51 | <anaoum> | yeh i have experienced that |
| 06:52 | * | jadoba steps away... |
| 06:54 | <anaoum> | so i disabled udev |
| 06:54 | <anaoum> | and i am rebooting |
| 06:54 | <anaoum> | ubuntu takes so long to boot :( |
| 06:54 | <jadoba> | anaoum: that might not fix it |
| 06:54 | <anaoum> | its worth a shot :) |
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| 07:08 | <mwalling> | anaoum: i dont know what your rule file is called, but look in /etc/udev/rules.d/ for ##-networking-soemthing |
| 07:09 | <mwalling> | thats where it sets your ethernet device names |
| 07:10 | <anaoum> | getting rid of udev seemed to do the trick |
| 07:10 | <anaoum> | i need to test it though |
| 07:11 | <mwalling> | you could even edit your networking devices file and make it ethPub and ethPriv |
| 07:12 | <mwalling> | wait... you got rid of udev? |
| 07:12 | <anaoum> | yes |
| 07:12 | <anaoum> | apt-get purge udev |
| 07:13 | * | mwalling grimises... |
| 07:14 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:14 | <anaoum> | lol is there something wrong with doing that?? |
| 07:14 | <mwalling> | do you know what udev is? |
| 07:15 | <anaoum> | something to do with hotplug |
| 07:15 | <anaoum> | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ |
| 07:15 | <mwalling> | knowing ubuntu, they prolly have it wrapped around their finger pretty tight |
| 07:16 | <anaoum> | (21:42:06) ***mwalling still wonders why the hell one would install udev on a *server*, nonetheless a linode |
| 07:16 | <anaoum> | so i got rid of it! |
| 07:16 | <mwalling> | and? |
| 07:16 | <mwalling> | i never said to get rid of it |
| 07:16 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:16 | <anaoum> | lol |
| 07:16 | <anaoum> | it seems to be running ok now but? |
| 07:16 | <mwalling> | you wont notice until a reboot |
| 07:17 | <anaoum> | ive rebooted *several* times |
| 07:17 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:17 | <anaoum> | lol |
| 07:18 | <mwalling> | since you yanked udev? |
| 07:18 | <anaoum> | yes |
| 07:18 | <mwalling> | oh |
| 07:18 | <anaoum> | seriously |
| 07:18 | * | mwalling shrugs |
| 07:18 | <anaoum> | im so confused now |
| 07:18 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:18 | <anaoum> | lol |
| 07:18 | <mwalling> | i dont trust ubuntu |
| 07:18 | <mwalling> | (its a personal thing( |
| 07:18 | <anaoum> | mikegrb: u are not being of any help! |
| 07:18 | <anaoum> | yeh i know ubuntu is strange sometimes |
| 07:19 | <mwalling> | anaoum: whats ifconfig -a say now? |
| 07:19 | <anaoum> | alot |
| 07:19 | <anaoum> | but eth1 is there |
| 07:20 | <mwalling> | poof |
| 07:20 | <mwalling> | all set |
| 07:20 | <anaoum> | poof ?? |
| 07:20 | <mwalling> | magic wand poof |
| 07:20 | <mwalling> | good poof |
| 07:22 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:22 | <anaoum> | ahhh lol |
| 07:22 | <anaoum> | mikegrb are u a bot or something! |
| 07:23 | <mwalling> | no, linbot is the bot |
| 07:23 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 07:23 | <mwalling> | see, its really bad when you say slackware |
| 07:25 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 07:25 | <mwalling> | mikegrb: so you like slackware? |
| 07:25 | <mwalling> | damnit |
| 07:26 | <mwalling> | anaoum: is it working? |
| 07:26 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 07:26 | <mwalling> | slackware |
| 07:26 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 07:26 | <anaoum> | whats wrong with slackware, its the most mature distro |
| 07:26 | <mwalling> | anaoum: i get trolled about my love for the distro |
| 07:27 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 07:27 | <anaoum> | of slackware? |
| 07:27 | <mwalling> | anaoum: yeah |
| 07:27 | <mwalling> | (and i'm trying to get my ignore regexp working) |
| 07:27 | <anaoum> | what is mikegrb ?!?!?! |
| 07:28 | <mwalling> | a linode employee |
| 07:28 | <Peng> | Our alien overlord. |
| 07:29 | <anaoum> | how can i test if my private ip is working? |
| 07:29 | <anaoum> | its showing up in ifconfig |
| 07:29 | <mwalling> | what datacenter? |
| 07:29 | <anaoum> | but i need to ping the gateway |
| 07:29 | <anaoum> | atlanta |
| 07:29 | <mwalling> | there is no gateway |
| 07:29 | <mwalling> | its private |
| 07:30 | <anaoum> | so what can i ping then ? |
| 07:30 | <mwalling> | someone else in atlanta with their private ip up? |
| 07:30 | <anaoum> | yeh, i have another vps in atlanta |
| 07:30 | <anaoum> | ill set that up |
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| 07:33 | <anaoum> | yay, it works! |
| 07:33 | <anaoum> | im pretty suprised tbh |
| 07:35 | <anaoum> | ok, im gonna clone this ubuntu 8.04 image now! |
| 07:35 | <mwalling> | ewww |
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| 07:36 | <anaoum> | eww at ubuntu |
| 07:36 | <anaoum> | or at me using the beta release? |
| 07:36 | <fred> | Someone's told me I should do this for mikegrb's reaction: |
| 07:36 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 07:36 | <fred> | cake |
| 07:36 | <mwalling> | anaoum: ewww at ubuntu |
| 07:36 | <fred> | slackware |
| 07:36 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 07:36 | <fred> | rofl |
| 07:36 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:36 | <fred> | lol |
| 07:36 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 07:36 | <jadoba> | heh, slackware didnt work |
| 07:36 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:36 | <anaoum> | lol |
| 07:36 | <fred> | :| |
| 07:36 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 07:36 | <anaoum> | cake |
| 07:36 | <anaoum> | pie |
| 07:36 | * | jadoba steps away again |
| 07:36 | <anaoum> | damn |
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| 07:37 | * | anaoum is baffled |
| 07:37 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 07:37 | <mwalling> | anaoum: run cake from the lish console |
| 07:37 | <anaoum> | ok |
| 07:37 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:37 | <anaoum> | lol @cake |
| 07:37 | <mwalling> | Cancel Account Keep Everything :) |
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| 07:41 | * | anaoum left the room |
| 07:46 | * | anaoum entered the room |
| 07:46 | * | mwalling didn't move |
| 07:46 | <anaoum> | mwaling, how long have u been a linode customer? |
| 07:47 | <mwalling> | on tuesday, linode 1 will be paying for its 5th month, and linode 2 will be paying for its 3rd |
| 07:47 | <internat85> | so i finally made it to start install my mail server |
| 07:48 | <mwalling> | hows mirc treating you! |
| 07:49 | <anaoum> | mwalling: have u much experience with other VPS providers? |
| 07:49 | <mwalling> | nope |
| 07:51 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 07:51 | <Hobbsee> | wow. cake actually does something |
| 07:51 | <mwalling> | Hobbsee: *smack* |
| 07:52 | * | Hobbsee takes out mwalling's knees with a pool cue. |
| 07:52 | <anaoum> | i love having two linodes :) |
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| 07:59 | <internat85> | anyone issues with apt-proxy sitting on waiting for headers everytime u do something? |
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| 08:01 | <jadoba> | apt-proxy is a pita |
| 08:01 | <mwalling> | s/proxy/*/ |
| 08:02 | <internat85> | yeah however when you have 8 debian pcs/vms in one house... |
| 08:02 | <jadoba> | internat85: squid cache |
| 08:02 | <internat85> | id rather not proxy everything |
| 08:02 | <internat85> | suppose it helps if i use an debian mierror that is alive |
| 08:02 | <jadoba> | internat85: squid.conf |
| 08:04 | <jadoba> | the good thing about a squid cache is that you don't have to go around and configure all your machines to point to a server inside the network |
| 08:04 | <jadoba> | afaict, just as long as they are all pointing to the same servers, it will be ok |
| 08:04 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 08:04 | <internat85> | lol |
| 08:04 | <internat85> | thats the same thing |
| 08:04 | <jadoba> | no, its not |
| 08:04 | <internat85> | u have to build ur apt/sources.list |
| 08:04 | <internat85> | u have to do that on all computers |
| 08:05 | <internat85> | im special |
| 08:05 | <mwalling> | i'm sure your mommy said that |
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| 08:06 | <internat85> | you leave my mum outa this, and ill leave this *raises fist* out of your mum |
| 08:06 | <jadoba> | internat85: if all the servers in your household point to ftp.us.debian.org, or ftp.de.d.o or wherever, then its all good |
| 08:07 | <jadoba> | plus, if you have a couple laptops that leave the house it will be less problematic when they're away from home and want to upgrade |
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| 08:07 | <internat85> | but if i have to goto the effort of pointing them to a specific mirror, i might as well point them to the apt proxy |
| 08:07 | <internat85> | (i dont have nay mobile machines) |
| 08:08 | <jadoba> | well, the issues I had with apt-proxy were more along the lines of it sucked moldy ass than "i have to configure sources.list" |
| 08:08 | * | mwalling doesnt have this problem |
| 08:08 | <internat85> | SpaceHobo: tbh, its just one of those habbits, ill start out in convos typing "you" but then as i type faster or am doing more things i get lazy and revert you "u" |
| 08:09 | <jadoba> | mwalling: often times I had to restart apt-proxy to get it to serve anything |
| 08:09 | <mwalling> | jadoba: i just rsync the tree, and share that by ftp |
| 08:10 | <jadoba> | mwalling: oh right, youre a slacker |
| 08:10 | <mwalling> | :) |
| 08:10 | <internat85> | bugga eh |
| 08:10 | * | internat85 starts to ponder if its bed time |
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| 08:18 | * | anaoum is back! |
| 08:18 | * | caker returns to the realm of the living |
| 08:18 | <mwalling> | peaches |
| 08:18 | <@caker> | strangers in the night... |
| 08:18 | <mwalling> | you bastard |
| 08:19 | <mwalling> | i dreamed i was reading james and the giant peach |
| 08:19 | <mwalling> | *on infinite loop* |
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| 08:26 | <internat85> | your all friggen wierd! :P |
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| 08:33 | <tsp> | yes we are |
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| 08:57 | <anaoum> | morning is here! |
| 08:57 | <Hobbsee> | oh no! pleaes don't let it be morning! |
| 08:59 | <anaoum> | caker: got an eta on some linode 360s in fremont? |
| 09:00 | -!- | getsmart [~getsmart@88-149-230-191.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #linode |
| 09:00 | <@caker> | anaoum: this morning for xen in fremont |
| 09:01 | <anaoum> | ok, what about uml in fremont? |
| 09:01 | <@caker> | perhaps never :) |
| 09:02 | <anaoum> | phasing out uml ??? |
| 09:02 | <@caker> | eventually, yes |
| 09:02 | <anaoum> | ok, so ill just move to xen :) |
| 09:02 | <anaoum> | is it possible to get my linodes on different xen hosts in fremont? |
| 09:03 | <@caker> | eventually, yes. maybe not today as we're only going to fire up one of the boxes for a day or two, I think |
| 09:04 | <anaoum> | is xen getting pretty stable now? |
| 09:04 | <@caker> | the version I built last night should be, yes |
| 09:04 | <@caker> | and it's going on the boxes in fremont |
| 09:04 | <anaoum> | nice |
| 09:04 | <Hobbsee> | yummy |
| 09:05 | <anaoum> | sorry for asking, but how long until these boxes get up & running? |
| 09:05 | <@caker> | few hrs |
| 09:05 | * | mwalling hands anaoum a whip |
| 09:05 | <mwalling> | anaoum: that should help |
| 09:06 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 09:06 | <anaoum> | lol |
| 09:06 | <anaoum> | lolz |
| 09:07 | <anaoum> | caker: can u move both my linodes (naoum1 & naoum2) to the new xen server in fremont when it comes available > |
| 09:07 | <anaoum> | ? |
| 09:07 | <anaoum> | im gonna go to sleep now :) |
| 09:07 | <@caker> | anaoum: ticket |
| 09:07 | <@tasaro> | submit a ticket |
| 09:07 | <anaoum> | kk |
| 09:08 | <anaoum> | done :) |
| 09:08 | <@tasaro> | the migrations are configured for you to initiate via the Linode Manager... if you want us to kick the migration(s) off, put that in the ticket as well |
| 09:09 | <anaoum> | ok, bed time for me! |
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