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| 01:10 | <Internat-web> | so.. |
| 01:10 | <Internat-web> | did one of the dc's just go down? |
| 01:21 | <bd_> | fremont and dallas are up anyway, I don't know of a host to test in atlanta, but I'm sure there'd be more people in here panicing if a whole DC went down |
| 01:21 | <path-> | mine's up in atlanta :) |
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| 01:23 | <Internat-web> | twas dallas |
| 01:23 | <Internat-web> | dunno what happened my my node hiccuped |
| 01:23 | <Internat-web> | could get to web page, but couldnt get ot ssh, smtp, ftp, imap pop |
| 01:24 | <Internat-web> | finally got in via lish, io tokens were fine, cant find anything to incidate anything was broken :( |
| 01:25 | <bd_> | next time grab a traceroute or mtr trace while it's down |
| 01:25 | <bd_> | could be routing was rearranging itself somewhere |
| 01:25 | <Nigel> | hmmm |
| 01:25 | <Internat-web> | got mtr |
| 01:25 | <Internat-web> | nothing wrong with it though |
| 01:25 | <Nigel> | Anyone know much about RPC over HTTP/S and lighttpd? |
| 01:25 | <Internat-web> | and i checked from 4 diff computers |
| 01:27 | <bd_> | well yeah if you can connect /now/ you won't see anything wrong :/ |
| 01:27 | <bd_> | and 4 different computers on the same ISP or...? |
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| 01:30 | <Internat-web> | up |
| 01:30 | <Internat-web> | nup* |
| 01:30 | <Internat-web> | 1 linode, 1 work pc, and 2 home pcs |
| 01:30 | <Internat-web> | 1 other linode i should say |
| 01:37 | <anaoum> | caker there? |
| 01:38 | <anaoum> | i just ordered a linode and i want it activated :D |
| 01:39 | <Nigel> | heh, I remember when I got my first linode, I got the activation email so quick, it was as if caker intercepted the order on the way to the server and stamped it approved :P |
| 01:39 | <Nigel> | *activated |
| 01:40 | <Internat-web> | i do like the whole if you already have an account and want another you dont have to wait for activcation |
| 01:43 | <Nigel> | yeah |
| 01:44 | <Nigel> | so yeah, my current project is working with lighttpd to process RPC over HTTPS for exchange |
| 01:48 | <anaoum> | its probably nighttime for caker now though :( |
| 01:48 | <Nigel> | yeah |
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| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | -!- | anaoum was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 02:07 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | -!- | anaoum was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 02:07 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | <@linbot> | anaoum: *click* |
| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | <@linbot> | anaoum: *click* |
| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | -!- | anaoum was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 02:07 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | <@linbot> | anaoum: *click* |
| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | <@linbot> | anaoum: *click* |
| 02:07 | <anaoum> | !rr |
| 02:07 | <@linbot> | anaoum: *click* |
| 02:07 | <anaoum> | yay |
| 02:11 | <Talman> | !rr |
| 02:11 | <@linbot> | Talman: *click* |
| 02:16 | <booja> | !rr |
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| 02:16 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 02:16 | <booja> | wow |
| 02:16 | <booja> | I am one unlucky mofo |
| 02:17 | <path-> | heh |
| 02:17 | <path-> | !rr |
| 02:17 | <@linbot> | path-: *click* |
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| 02:34 | <Toba_> | !rr |
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| 02:34 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 03:14 | <webPragmatist> | ok not really related whats the app for benchmarking with apache |
| 03:14 | <webPragmatist> | it's in apache utitiles |
| 03:25 | <Karnaugh> | ab/apachebench? |
| 03:25 | <Karnaugh> | (first hit on google...) |
| 03:25 | <erikh> | webPragmatist: siege is good |
| 03:26 | <webPragmatist> | yea ab |
| 03:26 | <erikh> | ab is a very simple tool in comparison, and won't bench a whole site |
| 03:26 | <erikh> | if you have any connected, dynamic content siege is a much better tool |
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| 04:19 | <anaou1> | !RR |
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| 04:19 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 04:19 | <anaou1> | !rr |
| 04:19 | <@linbot> | anaou1: *click* |
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| 04:30 | <anaou1> | !rr |
| 04:30 | <@linbot> | anaou1: *click* |
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| 05:09 | <anaou1> | !rr |
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| 05:09 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 05:09 | <anaou1> | !rr |
| 05:09 | <@linbot> | anaou1: *click* |
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| 05:26 | <SystemFAILURE> | Damn , it's something happening on Linode servers ? |
| 05:26 | <SystemFAILURE> | Is there anyone that is experiencing a down on *all* servers ? |
| 05:29 | <SystemFAILURE> | Back |
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| 05:38 | <praetorian> | no? |
| 05:38 | <praetorian> | why are you? |
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| 07:26 | <mwalling> | isp has a problem, imediatly blame linode... |
| 07:27 | <mwalling> | gotta love people |
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| 07:39 | <JDLSpeedy> | heh |
| 07:42 | <JDLSpeedy> | mwalling: whats the fun if you can't blame linode for your isp/dns/routing issues |
| 07:42 | <mwalling> | JDLSpeedy: oh, i do anyway |
| 07:42 | <mwalling> | its linodes fault that my satellite link was so laggy |
| 07:42 | <mwalling> | they should train the chipmonks to run faster |
| 07:43 | <JDLSpeedy> | satellite link? ugh |
| 07:43 | <mwalling> | yeah, old house had shitnet :) |
| 07:43 | <JDLSpeedy> | no dsl or cable by you? |
| 07:43 | <mwalling> | not out there |
| 07:47 | <mwalling> | now i do though |
| 07:48 | <JDLSpeedy> | ooo, was, heh |
| 07:49 | <mwalling> | yeah... moved at the end of last month |
| 07:49 | <JDLSpeedy> | $80/month for a 1.5mbps connection. that hurts |
| 07:49 | <mwalling> | huh? |
| 07:49 | <mwalling> | $60/mo for a claimed 512x128 |
| 07:50 | <JDLSpeedy> | but $80 for 1.5mbps |
| 07:50 | <mwalling> | note that i said claimed... |
| 07:50 | <mwalling> | this is the best time i got from speakeasy --> http://files.markwalling.org/speakeasy.png |
| 07:50 | <mwalling> | that was a 2:15 am |
| 07:50 | <mwalling> | s/a/at/ |
| 07:54 | <JDLSpeedy> | $60 is still to much for a 512x128 connection |
| 07:55 | <mwalling> | we had to buy the equipment too |
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| 08:25 | <path-> | mwalling, you from albany? |
| 08:25 | <path-> | my dad's family is all from there |
| 08:25 | * | caker swims to shore |
| 08:26 | <mwalling> | path-: just north of there on 87 |
| 08:26 | <path-> | i've got aunts and uncles on western ave all the way up to saratoga |
| 08:27 | <path-> | i saw your resume on files.markwalling.org |
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| 08:27 | <path-> | :) |
| 08:28 | <anaoum> | caker |
| 08:28 | <mwalling> | ... |
| 08:28 | <mwalling> | good thing i yanked that |
| 08:28 | <path-> | heh |
| 08:28 | <anaoum> | caker: any xen linode 360s available in fremont |
| 08:28 | <path-> | !avail |
| 08:28 | <@linbot> | path-: Linode360 - 16, Linode540 - 0, Linode720 - 0, Linode1080 - 0, Linode1440 - 0 |
| 08:28 | <@caker> | anaoum: no -- but we'll have machines online there by tomorrow |
| 08:29 | <path-> | i thought that thing said where :) |
| 08:29 | <anaoum> | sweet :D |
| 08:29 | <mwalling> | path-: !avail-he |
| 08:30 | <anaoum> | caker: how long is "tomorrow" for you? |
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| 08:30 | <@caker> | 24 hours? |
| 08:30 | <path-> | heh |
| 08:31 | <mwalling> | path-: btw: stalker |
| 08:32 | <anaoum> | im just not sure what timezone u are in |
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| 08:32 | <path-> | curiosity |
| 08:32 | <mwalling> | stalker |
| 08:32 | <path-> | hey, i don't put all this stuff on the web! |
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| 08:32 | <mwalling> | i didn't think people were going to lumber through my filedump either! |
| 08:33 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 08:33 | <mwalling> | meh, i wanted people to proof read it |
| 08:33 | <jadoba> | mwalling: its called the "World" wide web, not the mWalling wide web |
| 08:33 | <mwalling> | blahblahblahblah i cant hear you! |
| 08:34 | <jadoba> | really? :) if you could id be worried |
| 08:34 | * | mwalling loses |
| 08:34 | <path-> | grandcentral is pretty sweet too! |
| 08:34 | <mwalling> | path-: yes, yes it is |
| 08:34 | * | path- decided to see what his public website looked like |
| 08:35 | * | mwalling waits to see path- calling him in his asterisk console |
| 08:35 | <path-> | "public" as in not hidden behind dns |
| 08:35 | <path-> | i've been wanting to set that up |
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| 10:12 | <rick111> | is freenode down? |
| 10:12 | <rick111> | nm |
| 10:12 | <Karnaugh> | no |
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| 11:47 | <tsp> | How do you guys find linode stability/performance? I'm considering getting one to host my mail |
| 11:47 | <@caker> | they're great! |
| 11:48 | <scott> | excellent |
| 11:48 | <scott> | caker: trix are for kids |
| 11:49 | <scott> | tsp: there are some impressive uptimes out there |
| 11:49 | <tsp> | I've been lirking around the websites for a few days browsing, and linode seems to offer the best bang for my buck |
| 11:49 | * | scott nods |
| 11:54 | * | mwalling pulls a human bobble head doll |
| 11:57 | * | scott touches mwalling's head |
| 11:58 | <mwalling> | greasy, aint it |
| 11:58 | * | scott nods |
| 12:02 | <rick111> | I'd describe linodes performance and stability as; crispy |
| 12:06 | <tsp> | neat |
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| 12:45 | <Talman> | It holds its cripiness in milk. |
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| 13:02 | <fo0bar> | linode stays fresher longer in the crisper drawer |
| 13:04 | <tsp> | I signed up, so we'll see how it goes |
| 13:05 | -!- | You're now known as cover_sheet |
| 13:05 | <rick111> | crispy, like one of enrique iglesias's suits |
| 13:06 | <Pryon> | Wouldn't that make a lot of noise when he moved? |
| 13:06 | -!- | You're now known as B_Lumbergh |
| 13:07 | -!- | You're now known as mikegrb |
| 13:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:07 | <rick111> | lol |
| 13:07 | <@mikegrb> | <3 |
| 13:08 | <@mikegrb> | tsp: you should switch the s and p in your nick ;) |
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| 13:09 | <scott> | wheres my tps report! |
| 13:10 | * | caker sets the building on fire |
| 13:10 | * | scott swipes caker's swingline |
| 13:12 | <tsp> | tps? |
| 13:12 | * | mwalling guts a fish |
| 13:13 | <Talman> | I believe... I believe... |
| 13:13 | * | Talman stabs scott. "You have my stapler." |
| 13:14 | * | Pryon puts a cover sheet on tsp |
| 13:15 | <Pryon> | tsp: You'll find that the linode staff's strangeness is in proportion to their competence. |
| 13:15 | <Pryon> | They're rather competent. |
| 13:16 | <tsp> | heh |
| 13:18 | <scott> | Talman: ow |
| 13:20 | <Talman> | * scott: COLORS. * |
| 13:22 | * | scott goes blind |
| 13:22 | <atourino> | weirdness is a prereq for working at Linode it seems |
| 13:22 | <atourino> | :) |
| 13:22 | <@caker> | spice of life |
| 13:23 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:23 | <atourino> | oh and slackware bashing as well |
| 13:23 | <atourino> | :D |
| 13:24 | <Pryon> | Stop it or mwalling will go on a rant |
| 13:24 | <tsp> | scott: join the crowd :) |
| 13:25 | * | mwalling slaps atourino and SpaceHobo |
| 13:25 | <tsp> | wow, arch is huge compared to debian |
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| 13:28 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:28 | <atourino> | mwalling, I have nothing agains slackware my friend... never used the stuff... was just pointing out the fact that even the weird folks at Linode provide the image, they bash it regularly :) |
| 13:28 | <mwalling> | atourino: i'll slap you again! |
| 13:28 | <atourino> | sheesh |
| 13:28 | <atourino> | angry peeps |
| 13:28 | <atourino> | :D |
| 13:28 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:28 | <tsp> | slackware's lack of package management |
| 13:28 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:28 | <scott> | wtf is this slackware that hardly anyone talks about? |
| 13:28 | <mwalling> | tsp: um? |
| 13:29 | <mwalling> | tsp: come again? |
| 13:29 | <tsp> | scott: linux distro |
| 13:29 | <tsp> | mwalling: installpkg/removepkg is hardly a package manager |
| 13:29 | <path-> | they have packages.. tar.gz |
| 13:29 | <bd_> | scott: it's like the windows of linux - no package management, just extract tarballs and go :D |
| 13:29 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:29 | <tsp> | path-: so does arch, and arch > slackware |
| 13:29 | <mwalling> | path-: tgz thank you |
| 13:29 | <tsp> | mikegrb: you a bot? |
| 13:29 | <mwalling> | tsp: what does a package manager have to do? |
| 13:29 | <bd_> | (enjoy your dependency hell) |
| 13:29 | <tsp> | mwalling: track deps |
| 13:29 | <mwalling> | no |
| 13:29 | <scott> | mikegrb: best distro 1993 had to offer! |
| 13:29 | <mwalling> | thats a dependancy tracker |
| 13:29 | <path-> | make does that too :) |
| 13:29 | <path-> | err |
| 13:30 | <mwalling> | a package manager should manage packages |
| 13:30 | <path-> | ./configure |
| 13:30 | <bd_> | mwalling: dpkg -i --force-all is a fine package manager then, why not use it :) |
| 13:30 | <mwalling> | bd_: because upgradepkg is on tab completion |
| 13:30 | <atourino> | tsp... mikegrb is not a bot... just plays one on TV |
| 13:31 | <bd_> | So is apt-get upgrade? |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:31 | <atourino> | try typing slackware, cake, or lol |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 13:31 | <mwalling> | or rofl |
| 13:31 | <mwalling> | /ignore -regexp works wonders |
| 13:31 | <atourino> | wonder what is the precedence order |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:31 | <atourino> | lol rofl |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 13:31 | <bd_> | slackware cake |
| 13:31 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 13:31 | <bd_> | slackware rofl |
| 13:31 | <path-> | hehz |
| 13:32 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:32 | <bd_> | lol > cake > rofl > slackware |
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| 13:32 | <atourino> | that's gotta hurt mwalling |
| 13:32 | <atourino> | :D |
| 13:32 | <mwalling> | atourino: huh? |
| 13:32 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:32 | <atourino> | slackware at the bottom of the precedence order |
| 13:32 | <atourino> | :D |
| 13:32 | <mwalling> | 13:32 2 mikegrb #linode: ALL -regexp -network 6oftc -pattern ^lolz$ |
| 13:32 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 13:32 | <mwalling> | 13:32 3 mikegrb #linode: ALL -regexp -network 6oftc -pattern ^mmm cake$ |
| 13:32 | <mwalling> | 13:32 4 mikegrb #linode: ALL -regexp -network 6oftc -pattern ^roflz$ |
| 13:33 | <tsp> | is there a distro that just works? As much as I like arch, I don't want to go through manual config of everything, and it'll be huge after I get mysql, php, apache, postfix and everything else installed |
| 13:33 | <scott> | tsp: debian |
| 13:33 | <jadoba> | tsp: debian |
| 13:34 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:34 | <mwalling> | slackware? |
| 13:34 | * | scott beats mwalling with a wet noodle |
| 13:34 | <mwalling> | ow |
| 13:34 | <atourino> | they would all be bear bones though |
| 13:34 | <mwalling> | i hardly call vim manual |
| 13:34 | <atourino> | he wants like an already setup LAMP machine |
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| 13:34 | <jadoba> | huh? |
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| 13:35 | * | tsp still uses ed |
| 13:35 | <atourino> | which Linode doesn't offer really... or do they? |
| 13:35 | * | tsp just wants something small |
| 13:35 | <@caker> | how hard is it to install three packages? :) |
| 13:36 | <scott> | thats a long command |
| 13:36 | <jadoba> | apt-get install mysql-server apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 13:36 | <scott> | too much typing |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | slackpkg install n |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | slackpkg install l |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | done |
| 13:36 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 13:36 | <scott> | slackware? |
| 13:36 | <Supaplex> | mmm slackerwarez |
| 13:36 | <mwalling> | Supaplex: what the hell, you roaming oftc too? |
| 13:36 | <atourino> | caker, agreed... |
| 13:36 | <tsp> | oh my home box I've got everything from php to django, haven't tackled ruby yet |
| 13:37 | <Supaplex> | mwalling: heh irssi does it all :P |
| 13:37 | <jadoba> | tsp: if you want small, you can get rid of all the manpages, remove the locales and it will run like a flying gastank |
| 13:38 | <atourino> | flying gastanks are fast? |
| 13:38 | <atourino> | :) |
| 13:38 | <jadoba> | no, and that process would not make it any faster, really |
| 13:38 | <atourino> | never seen one, that's why Im asking |
| 13:38 | <atourino> | :D |
| 13:39 | <scott> | atourino: i bet they are if you light one end :) |
| 13:39 | <Pryon> | please to not be removing the man pages |
| 13:39 | <jadoba> | Pryon: why not? |
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| 13:39 | <Pryon> | Somebody might wish to use them. |
| 13:39 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Problems with hotmail in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3175>; |
| 13:40 | <jadoba> | they're all accessible online, the only reason theyre there is for conveinience of not having to use a browser... |
| 13:40 | <atourino> | what you probably want to do is use a light web server instead of apache... nginx for example |
| 13:40 | <jadoba> | they don't add anything to the day-to-day "as others see it" functionality of the server |
| 13:40 | <Pryon> | Also any platform-specific oddities will be reflected |
| 13:41 | <jadoba> | well, in debian that is taken care of in /usr/share/doc/<package-name>/README.Debian |
| 13:41 | <atourino> | and other alternatives to the well known but resource hungry processes that run on your machine |
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| 13:42 | <tsp> | at least debian *has* the docs |
| 13:43 | <jadoba> | atourino has a point about the speed. tsp said small though, i took that to mean 'not very spacious', not 'not very slow' |
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| 13:53 | <guinea-pig> | localepurge ftw |
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| 14:30 | <chell> | hi |
| 14:33 | <@caker> | hello |
| 14:33 | <chell> | I'm curious about Linode. I'm currently with Dreamhost, which is frankly too slow for me. Is there a test file I can download so I can see what speeds are like with linode (I'd probably go with the Georgia data centre, I'm in Europe)? |
| 14:34 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 |
| 14:34 | <chell> | ah okay. Thank you! |
| 14:35 | <chell> | One more question: Once I've got Linode can I switch data centeres? |
| 14:35 | <@caker> | Yes, you can |
| 14:35 | <chell> | for free? |
| 14:35 | <@caker> | yup |
| 14:35 | <chell> | cool, so I can say start with Georgia and then move to Texas? |
| 14:36 | <@caker> | correct |
| 14:36 | <chell> | Thank you! I'll definitely have to consider Linode now ;-) |
| 14:45 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 14:45 | <mwalling> | tsp: to be fair, slackware has docs too |
| 14:45 | <@mikegrb> | lies |
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| 14:57 | <chell> | Does the Linode 360 Plan include a domain? |
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| 14:58 | <mwalling> | you get a li##-###.members.linode.com, you're responsable for registration of a real domain |
| 14:58 | <scott> | no, but you get your choice of a ton of linode distros! |
| 14:58 | <Talman> | domain? |
| 14:58 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 14:58 | <mwalling> | including slackware! |
| 14:58 | <scott> | colors? |
| 14:58 | <Talman> | Request acknowledged. |
| 14:58 | * | scott goes blind |
| 14:58 | <@linbot> | I <3 scott |
| 14:59 | * | scott fondles linbot |
| 14:59 | <Talman> | Take that to PM. :( |
| 14:59 | * | linbot I <3 scott's mom, too |
| 14:59 | <scott> | no sex like botsex |
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| 15:27 | <Talman> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14542#14542 |
| 15:27 | <Talman> | This thread needs saved. |
| 15:30 | <JasonF> | there's a lot of stupid in that thread |
| 15:30 | <JasonF> | and I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole |
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| 15:47 | <Pryon> | Speaking of stupid (and lazy)... Is it okay (or even possible) for two name servers to be authoritative for a given domain? By okay, I mean (1) will it work and (2) is it a good practice? |
| 15:55 | <Battousai> | Pryon: that's generally what you want, actually. for redundancy you should have two authoritative nameservers (ideally one being a master which the other one gets the zone data from) which are fully synchronized, from RRs down to the SOA and serial |
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| 15:56 | <Battousai> | you could have more than two, of course |
| 15:57 | <mwalling> | Battousai: but they both can be athoritave? |
| 15:58 | <Battousai> | they should both be authoritative |
| 15:58 | <Battousai> | otherwise they aren't answering zone queries ;) |
| 15:58 | <Battousai> | but only one should be the master |
| 15:58 | <Battousai> | because otherwise you run a higher risk of desynchronized zone data between those nameservers |
| 15:59 | <mwalling> | i thought athoriative was the server that was named in the SOA? |
| 16:00 | <Battousai> | that's the authoritative master server |
| 16:00 | <mwalling> | aah |
| 16:01 | <mwalling> | i had 2 out of 3 |
| 16:02 | <Pryon> | Okay. I was similarly confused. Thanks for the info. I suppose I should read about it for myself, now. |
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| 16:06 | <@mikegrb> | there is no server mentioned in soa silly |
| 16:07 | <@mikegrb> | that's the dns miesters email address with the first dot being the @ |
| 16:08 | <mwalling> | linode.com. 3600 IN SOA ns.theshore.net. dns.linode.com. 2008031801 7200 3600 604800 86400 |
| 16:08 | <mwalling> | whats ns.theshore.net. |
| 16:08 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 16:08 | <@mikegrb> | <3 |
| 16:08 | <mwalling> | HA |
| 16:09 | <@mikegrb> | owned :< |
| 16:09 | <Battousai> | heh |
| 16:10 | <Battousai> | mikegrb failed dns class |
| 16:10 | <@mikegrb> | I was home sick that day |
| 16:10 | <Battousai> | that's why he does perl now |
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| 17:09 | <internat85> | god im sick of my pc locking up.. |
| 17:09 | <internat85> | keep loosing all my linode msgs :( |
| 17:09 | <@caker> | screeeeeeeeeeeeen |
| 17:09 | <@caker> | +irssi. |
| 17:09 | <mwalling> | step 1: apt-get install irssi screen |
| 17:09 | <mwalling> | step 2: ssh you@yourlinode screen -DR |
| 17:09 | <mwalling> | step 3: irssi |
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| 17:10 | * | caker waits for it |
| 17:11 | <mwalling> | whatd i miss? |
| 17:11 | <@caker> | step 4 |
| 17:11 | <mwalling> | /help connect |
| 17:13 | <mwalling> | caker: better? |
| 17:13 | <@caker> | PROFIT |
| 17:13 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 17:14 | <mwalling> | I can speak in colors too! |
| 17:14 | * | atourino psends hiw profit on ale and whores |
| 17:15 | <atourino> | and new fingers that do not mistype as often |
| 17:15 | <atourino> | :P |
| 17:17 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:17 | <internat85> | lol |
| 17:17 | <internat85> | i dun like irssi |
| 17:18 | <internat85> | i can admit it, im a mirc fan :P |
| 17:20 | <mwalling> | ewwwww |
| 17:20 | <mwalling> | irssi can do everything irssi does |
| 17:20 | <path-> | heh |
| 17:20 | <mwalling> | awe crap |
| 17:21 | <path-> | run xwindows in vnc and use xchat |
| 17:21 | <TJF> | bwahaha |
| 17:21 | <mwalling> | ahha |
| 17:21 | <atourino> | arg |
| 17:21 | * | TJF uses miranda |
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| 17:22 | <path-> | better than mirc, but not as good as irssi |
| 17:22 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:22 | <mwalling> | internat85: with irssi you too can say lol |
| 17:22 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 17:22 | <mwalling> | cake |
| 17:22 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 17:22 | <mwalling> | rofl |
| 17:22 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 17:22 | <mwalling> | and slackware |
| 17:23 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:23 | <TJF> | but i can already say lol cake rofl and slackware |
| 17:23 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:23 | <TJF> | lol cake |
| 17:23 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:23 | <TJF> | cake lol |
| 17:23 | <TJF> | :/ |
| 17:25 | <internat85> | tbh, i just need to work out why the frig my computer keeps locking up |
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| 17:27 | <@mikegrb> | probbly has something to do witwindos |
| 17:29 | <internat85> | nawww. the pcs got something fubar with it |
| 17:30 | <TJF> | rootkit |
| 17:30 | <internat85> | negative |
| 17:30 | <internat85> | hard locks up. |
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| 17:31 | <internat85> | i thought cooling but i ran some stress testing shit thru it and it ran for 4hrs at full usage and no issues.. |
| 17:31 | <mwalling> | memory/video? |
| 17:31 | <internat85> | ram memtest86+ and was fine |
| 17:32 | <internat85> | maybe video i may try updating drivers |
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| 17:35 | <TJF> | registry corruption |
| 17:35 | <TJF> | too many hacks ;) |
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| 17:41 | <atourin1> | who is peer and why does he reset my connection? |
| 17:41 | <atourin1> | :P |
| 17:42 | <TJF> | mikegrb is a peer |
| 17:47 | <@mikegrb> | peer of god |
| 17:47 | * | mikegrb runs |
| 17:47 | <TJF> | 5 min, and that's all you came up with? |
| 17:47 | * | caker is now known as Colonel Panic |
| 17:47 | <TJF> | <3 |
| 17:47 | <@caker> | or General Exception |
| 17:48 | <@caker> | or Major Minor |
| 17:48 | <@caker> | or Private IP |
| 17:48 | <TJF> | Captain Chaos |
| 17:49 | <@caker> | Captain Crunch |
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| 17:53 | <path_> | what is xensource to xen? |
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| 17:53 | <path_> | like the redhat approach to free software? |
| 17:54 | <path_> | heh |
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| 18:53 | <mwalling> | caker: you should have a cluefullness test in order to sign up for a linode |
| 18:55 | <Battousai> | as long as i'm grandfathered in |
| 18:55 | <jadoba> | mwalling: yeah, like they have tests for people to be able to drive |
| 18:56 | <jadoba> | not just as a courtesy to others, but also so that they themselves don't get hurt... |
| 18:57 | <mwalling> | and questoins 1-10 should be devoted to dns |
| 18:57 | <jadoba> | sounds like a fun test to take |
| 18:58 | <mwalling> | you been reading the forums? |
| 18:58 | <jadoba> | no |
| 18:58 | <jadoba> | i probably should start though |
| 18:58 | <mwalling> | no |
| 18:58 | <mwalling> | dont |
| 18:59 | <mwalling> | save yourself |
| 18:59 | <jadoba> | hmm |
| 18:59 | <jadoba> | i dunno |
| 19:00 | <Battousai> | is this about the thread with the guy doing the ssh@domains1,2,etc stuff? |
| 19:03 | <mwalling> | thats one |
| 19:13 | <@mikegrb> | hey, I posted that! |
| 19:14 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 19:17 | <booja> | oops, forgot to logout |
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| 19:18 | <booja> | mwalling: what's a dns? :D |
| 19:18 | <mwalling> | *headdesk* |
| 19:19 | <booja> | is that like a dchp? |
| 19:19 | <jadoba> | DNS = drenched noodle smack |
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| 19:24 | <booja> | heehee |
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| 20:01 | <arooni> | questions about security: 1) is it better to disable ssh login without keys? why /why not? 2) what if i want to add permission for a box to connect later... but NOT from an existing box that has its public key set up. 3) if i do disable ssh login (except by keys) is it ok to edit the sudo file to have password = false ? |
| 20:02 | <Toba_> | pros of key only: |
| 20:02 | <Toba_> | a) more secure as there is less access to machine |
| 20:03 | <Toba_> | cons: |
| 20:03 | <Toba_> | a) if anyone else uses the machine they will shank you |
| 20:03 | <Toba_> | b) pain in the ass |
| 20:03 | <Toba_> | my policy: use passwords, but set all my accounts to really long passwords and use keys. |
| 20:03 | <Toba_> | sudo with password=false is a pointless sham on the meaning of root. don't be a moron. |
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| 21:12 | * | JasonF is about to reboot a server to loses 416d uptime |
| 21:12 | <JasonF> | and another one that has 353d |
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| 21:13 | <booja> | do'h |
| 21:14 | <fo0bar> | no! at least keep it up another 12 days |
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| 21:19 | <jadoba> | JasonF: kernel upgrade? |
| 21:20 | <iggy> | 19:20:04 up 911 days, 2:57, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.04, 0.01 |
| 21:20 | <iggy> | mmmm |
| 21:20 | <jadoba> | iggy: what distro? |
| 21:20 | <path_> | time for a kernel update? |
| 21:20 | <JDLSpeedy> | iggy: heh, 911 days? |
| 21:20 | <jadoba> | hyah |
| 21:21 | <JDLSpeedy> | crashes iggy linode |
| 21:21 | <TheFirst> | 20:30:50 up 460 days, 22:59, 9 users, load average: 0.05, 0.01 |
