| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 21 00:00:24 2008 |
| 00:10 | -!- | freelikegnu is now known as _freelikegnu |
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| 00:32 | <arooni-mobile> | help! i cant sudo anymore cuz i see: -bash: cd: /var/run/sudo: Permission denied...... and i cant remove that file cuz i can't be sudo.... and i cant login as root because i disabled root logins.... and i cant change the sshd config cuz i'm not root...... what am i to do? |
| 00:33 | <@caker> | lish console? |
| 00:34 | <arooni-mobile> | link please? |
| 00:34 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/LISH |
| 00:34 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/screencasts/Lish.mov |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | caker, rm: cannot remove directory /var/run/sudo/chasetoys : Read-only file system |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | caker, i did su - |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | and then authenticated |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | but tried to remove that file |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | does that mean my file system is corrupted? |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | it means the kernel detected an error and mounted the fs read-only to prevent further damage |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | ok |
| 00:35 | <arooni-mobile> | how can i fix |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | are you on UML or Xen? |
| 00:36 | <arooni-mobile> | Xen |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | hmm .. ok -- another data point |
| 00:36 | <arooni-mobile> | caker, should i reboot? |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | log into linode.com, click on your config profile, select "init=/bin/bash", reboot, connect to the Lish shell |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | at the prompt, run: fsck -f /dev/xvda (or whatever device node your that fs is attached to) |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | after you fsck, set the runlevel back to default in your config profile and reboot |
| 00:38 | <arooni-mobile> | what iwhere do i got to init /bin/bash |
| 00:38 | <arooni-mobile> | ok i see it |
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| 00:39 | <arooni-mobile> | how can i find out what my hostname is |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | dashboard, right hand side -- "host summary" |
| 00:41 | <arooni-mobile> | i see Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld |
| 00:41 | <arooni-mobile> | ok the system shutdown is in progress |
| 00:42 | <arooni-mobile> | caker, Deleted inode 70777 has zero dtime. Fix<y>? |
| 00:42 | <arooni-mobile> | i'm assuming yes... but i dont wanna screw this up |
| 00:43 | <@caker> | you're on your own with this one, but in my experience fsck knows better than I do |
| 00:43 | <arooni-mobile> | is this a symptom of running xen? |
| 00:43 | <arooni-mobile> | file system corruption? |
| 00:44 | <arooni-mobile> | i'm loving seeing "FIXED" |
| 00:44 | <@caker> | we're not sure yet. You're the second today to report a problem with their fs going read-only .. both on xen, different hosts |
| 00:44 | <arooni-mobile> | was the other guy/gal able to fix it |
| 00:45 | <arooni-mobile> | with fschk? |
| 00:45 | <@caker> | Yup |
| 00:45 | <arooni-mobile> | what % of the time have you seen fschk fix it |
| 00:45 | <arooni-mobile> | in my issue |
| 00:45 | <@caker> | there are only your report and the other person |
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| 00:45 | <arooni-mobile> | ever? |
| 00:45 | <@caker> | ever |
| 00:45 | <arooni-mobile> | i guess i should feel lucky? |
| 00:45 | <@caker> | heh |
| 00:46 | <arooni-mobile> | but i dont |
| 00:46 | <@caker> | stuff like this could also be attributed to when dallas60 crashed |
| 00:47 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3115 <-- |
| 00:47 | <@caker> | and then only crop up when the affected file or directory is tickled |
| 00:47 | <@caker> | s/crashed/tp trips power/ |
| 00:48 | <@caker> | so frustrating ... the less their in our cages the better |
| 00:48 | <@caker> | *they're |
| 00:49 | <arooni-mobile> | ok so how can i check |
| 00:49 | <arooni-mobile> | if it all worked |
| 00:51 | <@caker> | well, boot back up .. let it ride for a while -- definitely let me know if it goes read-only again, please |
| 00:54 | <arooni-mobile> | can you siwthc me back to UML if it gets really bad? |
| 00:56 | <arooni-mobile> | so i can't ssh in anymore :( |
| 00:56 | <arooni-mobile> | directly that is |
| 00:56 | <arooni-mobile> | even though sshd is up |
| 00:56 | <arooni-mobile> | do you know how to fix? |
| 00:56 | <bd_> | log in through lish and see what's up? |
| 00:56 | <arooni-mobile> | how do i see whats up |
| 00:56 | <arooni-mobile> | sshd is up |
| 00:57 | <bd_> | what's the error when you try to connect? |
| 00:57 | <arooni-mobile> | how do iincrease log level for ssh |
| 00:57 | <bd_> | check /var/log/syslog ? |
| 00:59 | <arooni-mobile> | nothigh there |
| 00:59 | <arooni-mobile> | know another place? |
| 01:00 | <bd_> | what distro? |
| 01:00 | -!- | _freelikegnu is now known as freelikegnu |
| 01:00 | <arooni-mobile> | gutsy |
| 01:00 | <bd_> | what's the error on connect? |
| 01:00 | <arooni-mobile> | bd_, id love to tell you but i dont see an error |
| 01:00 | <arooni-mobile> | it just hangs |
| 01:01 | <bd_> | check your firewall then |
| 01:01 | <arooni-mobile> | on the server? |
| 01:01 | <bd_> | yes |
| 01:01 | <bd_> | and whether its networking is working |
| 01:01 | <arooni-mobile> | how do i check that |
| 01:01 | <arooni-mobile> | how do i check that |
| 01:01 | <arooni-mobile> | :p |
| 01:01 | <bd_> | ping 4.2.2.1 from lish |
| 01:01 | <arooni-mobile> | when you say from lish.... should i already login via an account to the server |
| 01:01 | <arooni-mobile> | when i ping it? |
| 01:02 | <bd_> | ? |
| 01:02 | <bd_> | lish -> server console, login, at your root or user prompt, ping 4.2.2.1 |
| 01:02 | <arooni-mobile> | connect: Network is unreachable |
| 01:02 | <bd_> | okay, your network config is messed up |
| 01:02 | <bd_> | do you have multiple IPs? |
| 01:03 | <arooni-mobile> | fantastic :P |
| 01:03 | <arooni-mobile> | just one |
| 01:03 | <bd_> | what does /etc/network/interfaces look like ? |
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| 01:03 | <arooni-mobile> | http://pastie.caboo.se/168613 |
| 01:04 | <bd_> | try /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 01:05 | <arooni-mobile> | ok now i can ping! |
| 01:05 | <arooni-mobile> | btw what is 4.2.2.1 ? |
| 01:05 | <arooni-mobile> | and now ssh in works as normal |
| 01:06 | <arooni-mobile> | bd_, how do you know all this stuff ? ;p |
| 01:06 | <bd_> | 4.2.2.1 is a random easy to remember DNS server somewhere >.> |
| 01:06 | <bd_> | I tend to use it just because it's a very memorable number :) |
| 01:09 | <Toba_> | me too |
| 01:11 | * | bd_ wonders what percentage of their traffic comes from such usage.. |
| 01:12 | <Toba_> | probably most of it |
| 01:12 | <Toba_> | although I think it's a root dns server |
| 01:12 | <Toba_> | not sure |
| 01:12 | <Toba_> | that is probably multihomed |
| 01:12 | <Toba_> | as so much depends on it |
| 01:17 | <bd_> | it's not listed as a root server |
| 01:17 | <bd_> | or gtld-servers |
| 01:20 | -!- | freelikegnu is now known as _freelikegnu |
| 01:21 | <arooni-mobile> | can i remove something onece its in the queue |
| 01:22 | <arooni-mobile> | and we're back! |
| 01:22 | <arooni-mobile> | man that was annoying |
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| 07:01 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: iptables question in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3168>; |
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| 07:45 | <mwalling> | congrats! |
| 07:46 | <mwalling> | i got a raise by telling my boss i wanted to work for caker |
| 07:46 | <mwalling> | :) |
| 07:48 | <mwalling> | *blink* |
| 07:48 | <mwalling> | you're name is brittney? |
| 07:49 | * | mwalling is so confused |
| 07:52 | <mwalling> | *headdesk* |
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| 08:17 | <mwalling> | Debug.Print Me.Coffee.ConsumedToday |
| 08:17 | <mwalling> | 0.00 |
| 08:18 | <mwalling> | i had to plug another machine in that outlet.... |
| 08:18 | <mwalling> | and i'm not drinking the cowpiss |
| 08:18 | <mwalling> | HAHAHA |
| 08:19 | <mwalling> | we're a week behind schedule and its not my fault |
| 08:19 | <mwalling> | :) |
| 08:23 | <mwalling> | ... |
| 08:23 | <mwalling> | i'm blaming it on my coworkers |
| 08:24 | <mwalling> | who are blaming it on the customers |
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| 08:29 | <Hobbsee> | it's always the customer's fault. |
| 08:29 | <Hobbsee> | blame customer stupidity. |
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| 08:33 | * | caker parachutes into the channel |
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| 08:43 | * | praetorian cuts the parachute |
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| 08:45 | <jamdombar> | yo |
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| 10:21 | <gyzmodo> | hello everybody! |
| 10:21 | <@caker> | hallo! |
| 10:22 | <gyzmodo> | can i run 5 wordpress blog on the 360 Linode account? |
| 10:22 | <gyzmodo> | blogs i mean |
| 10:22 | <@caker> | I don't see why not... |
| 10:23 | <@caker> | it may require some apache/mysql tweaking, depending on $stuff |
| 10:25 | <gyzmodo> | that's kewl |
| 10:28 | <iggy> | and it also depends on how busy they are |
| 10:29 | <iggy> | if all 5 have 150 simultaneous users or something crazy, you might have less luck doing it |
| 10:31 | <gyzmodo> | The following errors were generated: |
| 10:31 | <gyzmodo> | what is that? |
| 10:33 | <@caker> | your credit card company declined the transaction |
| 10:34 | <gyzmodo> | shit |
| 10:34 | <@caker> | I suggest giving them a phone call |
| 10:34 | <gyzmodo> | problem with them? |
| 10:34 | <@caker> | yeah .. they don't tell us why |
| 10:34 | <gyzmodo> | few days ago i cannot register hosting in MT |
| 10:34 | <gyzmodo> | same problem |
| 10:35 | <@caker> | sometimes they just want you to approve online transactions ... crazy fraud checks |
| 10:35 | <gyzmodo> | month ago i bougth a domain from NetSol... |
| 10:36 | <gyzmodo> | motherfuckers... |
| 10:39 | <gyzmodo> | today is day off |
| 10:41 | <mwalling> | so... aparently using a 128MB dictionary for LZMA compression is a *BAD* idea |
| 10:43 | <@caker> | FEDEX! |
| 10:46 | * | mwalling thinks that means new hosts arrived |
| 10:53 | <mwalling> | caker: buy me pizza too? |
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| 11:01 | <m0unds_> | i want pizza |
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| 11:30 | <zeroday> | does DBI mysql support the trim() function? |
| 11:31 | <JDLSpeedy> | zeroday: is this perl? |
| 11:32 | <zeroday> | yeah |
| 11:32 | <JDLSpeedy> | you can chomp() the file |
| 11:32 | <JDLSpeedy> | string* |
| 11:32 | <zeroday> | Will it remove all whitespaces? |
| 11:32 | <zeroday> | not all |
| 11:32 | <zeroday> | from the beginning and end |
| 11:33 | <JDLSpeedy> | oo, chomp just removes the return chars |
| 11:33 | <zeroday> | mysql.com has a trim function, but I cant find anything about dbi mysql that says if it has it |
| 11:34 | <JDLSpeedy> | if trim is a mysql it should work |
| 11:34 | <zeroday> | gonna make a quick script to test it |
| 11:34 | <JDLSpeedy> | grr, if trim is a mysql function it should work |
| 11:35 | <JDLSpeedy> | you'll just call it from your mysql query string |
| 11:36 | <JDLSpeedy> | yep, it should work zeroday |
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| 12:02 | <JasonF> | tasaro: ping |
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| 12:22 | <gyzmodo> | hey |
| 12:22 | <gyzmodo> | caker |
| 12:23 | <gyzmodo> | I bougth hosting from A Small Orange with that CC |
| 12:23 | <mwalling> | you didnt call your cc company? |
| 12:23 | <gyzmodo> | nope |
| 12:23 | <bd_> | gyzmodo: There's not much linode can do if your cc declines the charges. |
| 12:23 | <gyzmodo> | i just test |
| 12:23 | <bd_> | Call them and see what's up. |
| 12:24 | <mwalling> | hell, if i go to vermont to get gas i have to call my bank ahead of time |
| 12:25 | <gyzmodo> | what is the problem? |
| 12:25 | <mwalling> | i live in new york |
| 12:25 | <mwalling> | out of state signature less transaction |
| 12:25 | <mwalling> | gets declined if i dont call ahead |
| 12:26 | <mwalling> | my bank has a "threat level" setting you can set (over the phone) to determine how sensitive the anti-fraud system is... |
| 12:27 | <mwalling> | my wife's ex manager was arrested for credit card fraud, so i rased it to "red", the next day they called and said there was an attempted transaction for a 600$ sofa in penn |
| 12:31 | <gyzmodo> | i see |
| 12:31 | <gyzmodo> | so problem with my Bank? |
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| 12:33 | <bd_> | gyzmodo: yes, call the number on your card |
| 12:34 | <gyzmodo> | i'll do it on monday |
| 12:34 | <gyzmodo> | today is day off |
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| 12:37 | <munhentos> | hi |
| 12:37 | <@tasaro> | hello |
| 12:37 | <munhentos> | Anyone know if UML honors the O_DIRECT flag in the syscall create? |
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| 12:38 | <munhentos> | I did some tests |
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| 12:39 | <munhentos> | and the VPS hand drive is to fast to be true :-) |
| 12:39 | <munhentos> | *hard drive* |
| 12:39 | <munhentos> | I got 1000 writes/sec in a SATA HD |
| 12:40 | <munhentos> | and in my VPS I get 1300/sec |
| 12:40 | <@caker> | munhentos: you mean calling create from within the UML, right? Not how the ubd driver accesses host resources |
| 12:40 | <munhentos> | very good, but I use O_DIRECT because I need the data to be written to disk with no cache |
| 12:41 | <munhentos> | yes, inside my linode vps |
| 12:41 | <@caker> | munhentos: you can use O_DIRECT inside your Linode, yes. |
| 12:41 | <munhentos> | create("filename", O_DIRECT) |
| 12:42 | <munhentos> | sure I can, but I'm afraid the host linux can make aditional cache |
| 12:42 | <@caker> | then requests go into the write buffer on the host, and then the write buffer on the raid card, and then the write buffer on the drive itself |
| 12:42 | <@caker> | :) |
| 12:42 | <Toba_> | yay buffers! |
| 12:42 | <@caker> | the raid cards have battery backup |
| 12:43 | <munhentos> | it's what I was about to ask :-) |
| 12:43 | <@caker> | and I doubt when a drive says "Yes, I've really written this to disk", what it really means is "I've written it to buffer -- you'll never know" |
| 12:43 | <munhentos> | and your uptime is just to good to be true as well, 240 days and counting :-) |
| 12:43 | <@caker> | cool |
| 12:44 | <munhentos> | do you know if the raid you use is faster than a nem SATA disk? |
| 12:45 | <munhentos> | I'm asking 'cause I do enterprise software in C++ and I saw lots of slow storages |
| 12:45 | <@caker> | that's one of those "faster in what workload" questions |
| 12:45 | <munhentos> | safety first... |
| 12:45 | <@caker> | well, yeah .. raid 1 is safer than a single disk... |
| 12:46 | <munhentos> | sure, but sometimes 'safer' means 'slower' as well |
| 12:46 | <@caker> | depends on the workload. |
| 12:46 | <mwalling> | caker: where's my piece of pizza? i'm getting hungry |
| 12:47 | <@caker> | mwalling: it's in the Employee's Only room |
| 12:47 | <mwalling> | low blow |
| 12:47 | <@mikegrb> | hahahahha |
| 12:47 | <@mikegrb> | caker++ |
| 12:48 | <@tasaro> | mwalling: shouldn't you be buying us pizza at this point? ;) |
| 12:49 | <munhentos> | caker: I'll check UML source code just to be sure |
| 12:49 | <munhentos> | more questions :-) |
| 12:50 | <munhentos> | about Xen, are you having a good experience? |
| 12:50 | <@caker> | munhentos: we don't write to filesystem images, so it's moot |
| 12:50 | <@caker> | munhentos: we use LVM |
| 12:50 | <@caker> | yes. Xen is going pretty well |
| 12:50 | <munhentos> | caker: ok, but the VMs disks are files in a partition or another raw partition? |
| 12:51 | <@caker> | munhentos: they're logical volumes exported directly to the virtual machines (uml or xen) |
| 12:51 | <@caker> | no filesystem cache involved |
| 12:51 | <@caker> | which is what O_DIRECT avoids, correct? |
| 12:51 | <munhentos> | I had another vps host before, with xen, and I've never had more than 3 months uptime, user 'boot' was a heavy user of my vps.... |
| 12:52 | <mwalling> | tasaro: what, for getting your hopes up? |
| 12:52 | <tolecnal> | I hate to advertise, but I'll do it anyway. Live webcam from the second biggest computer party in the world -> http://webcam.tg08.gathering.org/ - 5000 attendees :) |
| 12:53 | <mwalling> | i already talked to caker re: $otheroptions, he said he wasnt going to close that door |
| 12:53 | <munhentos> | good. I the VPS disk is another partition, no host cache is involved |
| 12:53 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 12:53 | <mwalling> | plus, i think i already promised mikegrb i would build the slackware 12.1 image for him :) |
| 12:53 | <munhentos> | *if the vps...* |
| 12:53 | <@tasaro> | heh |
| 12:53 | <tolecnal> | mikegrb: yeah, apparently some do |
| 12:53 | <munhentos> | so your disk is that fast |
| 12:54 | <mwalling> | mikegrb: you need to add a small sleep() to the begining of that... it spits back too fast |
| 12:54 | <zeroday> | anyone used postgreSQL here by any chance? :P |
| 12:55 | <@mikegrb> | mwalling: I type fast |
| 12:55 | <jadoba> | zeroday: im sure someone has |
| 12:56 | <zeroday> | I can figure out why I getting this problem, I create table x and table y with primary keys, then it says table y already exists when I try to set a primary key in the create table query |
| 12:56 | <zeroday> | * cant |
| 12:57 | <munhentos> | caker: thank you very much! |
| 12:57 | <@caker> | munhentos: any time |
| 12:59 | <Pryon> | zeroday: Can you do create table on a table that already exist? Can alter table do what you want? |
| 12:59 | <Pryon> | Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you |
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| 13:03 | <zeroday> | Pryon, sorry, phone call |
| 13:03 | <zeroday> | I figured out the problem, it was because I using the same constraint name in 2 tables |
| 13:03 | <Pryon> | ah |
| 13:04 | <zeroday> | I dunno why my lecturer asked us to do it in postgresql and not mysql :( |
| 13:05 | <Pryon> | he wants you to use a more standards-compliant RDBMS? |
| 13:06 | <@caker> | ascii fixed-field-witdh delimited files > * |
| 13:06 | <zeroday> | whats wrong with mysql's implementation of standards? |
| 13:06 | <@caker> | SELECT * FROM `cat /path/to/file1` |
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| 13:09 | <erikh> | zeroday: there are a number of things that mysql does "wrong" |
| 13:10 | <erikh> | e.g., try rollback or commit on a MyISAM engine table |
| 13:10 | <erikh> | it'll tell you it worked |
| 13:10 | <erikh> | but oh no, it didn't do anything |
| 13:10 | <erikh> | mostly because MyISAM doesn't support transactions |
| 13:10 | <erikh> | but it doesn't warn you, or tell you you're doing something dumb |
| 13:10 | <erikh> | it (last I checked, but I'll have to check my DBDs) doesn't have a native binding API |
| 13:11 | <erikh> | it's interpretation of types is fast and loose |
| 13:11 | <erikh> | and depends on engines |
| 13:11 | * | erikh goes on a rant |
| 13:11 | <erikh> | sorry, i'm maintaining a database layer for ruby now, so I get to see the gory details of mysql up close |
| 13:11 | * | caker likes his women like he likes his database type checking |
| 13:11 | <erikh> | heh |
| 13:17 | <JasonF> | erikh: you should use innodb. |
| 13:17 | <JasonF> | if you're using MyISAM for a DB large enough to need transactions |
| 13:17 | <JasonF> | then you're doing it wrong. |
| 13:17 | <JasonF> | :) |
| 13:18 | <mwalling> | mysql is owned by sun. |
| 13:18 | <mwalling> | check. mate. |
| 13:18 | <erikh> | JasonF: I don't use mysql for anything |
| 13:19 | <erikh> | but I do have to maintain a mysql driver for people who think it's useful |
| 13:19 | <Pryon> | mwalling: are you saying being owned by sun is a win? I can't tell. |
| 13:19 | <mwalling> | Pryon: fail |
| 13:19 | <mwalling> | pretty soon the mysqld will be ported to java code, and you'll need a JRE to run it, and there will be tons of overhead |
| 13:19 | <mwalling> | </trolling> |
| 13:19 | <erikh> | they just want a guarnatee that solaris users will have an alternative to oracle |
| 13:20 | <bd_> | erikh: They do, it's called postgresql :| |
| 13:20 | <erikh> | bd_: that clusters |
| 13:20 | <bd_> | >.> |
| 13:20 | <erikh> | I love postgres, but replication is terribad |
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| 13:27 | <robboplus> | hello linoders :) |
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| 13:55 | <mwalling> | hmm... Xan |
| 13:55 | <mwalling> | has a point |
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| 13:56 | <mwalling> | although we calculate at .95 pf here |
| 13:56 | <linuxKd> | does anyone know what IRC ports are blocked for the Atlanta facility? |
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| 14:00 | <TofuMatt> | Atlanta blocks 6667, but I think the forums has a post about all of the ports it blocks, which is apparently fairly extensive |
| 14:00 | <linuxKd> | i appreciate it, i did a search on the forums but didnt find that post |
| 14:01 | <linuxKd> | do you know if 6667 is blocked only inbound or outbound as well? |
| 14:01 | <mwalling> | both ways |
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| 14:13 | <linuxKd> | well thanks for the info guys. |
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| 15:05 | <mwalling> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14484#14484 <-- i win |
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| 15:08 | <bennymack> | hi everybody. i just signed with linode and i've got a slack12.0 image running. I resized the root partition to 4096MB and I'd like to mount the remaining 5888MB to /home but I'm not having much luck |
| 15:08 | <@caker> | create a new disk image, add it to the configuration profile under an unused device node, reboot, mount it ... 4) PROFIT |
| 15:10 | <bennymack> | aha! I had done all this with the server down. now that it's back up I see it in Drive Setup. Thanks! |
| 15:11 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 15:11 | <mwalling> | mikegrb: HA! 3 slackware users and counting :P |
| 15:11 | <mwalling> | caker: got any leftover pizza? |
| 15:11 | <bd_> | Secretly bennymack is bootstrapping debian on that so-called '/home' partition |
| 15:12 | <mwalling> | bd_: </3 |
| 15:13 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 15:13 | <bd_> | Hey, I'm sure slackware is good for some things. |
| 15:13 | <bd_> | Like downloading debootstrap. |
| 15:13 | <bd_> | and /maybe/ formatting partitions for it |
| 15:13 | * | mwalling grumbles |
| 15:14 | <bd_> | >.> |
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| 15:18 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 15:18 | <Talman> | Oh jesus he's got a slackware trigger now? |
| 15:19 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 15:19 | <bd_> | No, he's manually responding every time someone says slackware. |
| 15:19 | <bd_> | hmm |
| 15:19 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 15:19 | <bd_> | slackware |
| 15:19 | <bd_> | oh, +c |
| 15:19 | <bd_> | blah! |
| 15:19 | <bd_> | slackwαre |
| 15:19 | <@mikegrb> | ! people still use slackware?!?! |
| 15:19 | <bennymack> | i'm using Slackware and Perl!!!11eleven |
| 15:20 | <mwalling> | in perl regexps, do ! need escaping? |
| 15:20 | <bennymack> | perldoc perlre |
| 15:20 | <mwalling> | too much work |
| 15:21 | <bennymack> | now i have to download all the packages to make it actually useful. no Perl, no VIM |
| 15:22 | <mwalling> | slackpkg install perl vim |
| 15:22 | <bennymack> | no screen |
| 15:22 | <bd_> | slackware |
| 15:22 | <bd_> | mhm :) |
| 15:22 | <@caker> | inverse |
| 15:23 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:23 | <purrdeta> | lol |
| 15:23 | <@mikegrb> | roflz |
| 15:23 | <m0unds_> | rofl |
| 15:23 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:23 | <m0unds_> | lol |
| 15:23 | <m0unds_> | !rr |
| 15:23 | <@linbot> | m0unds_: *click* |
| 15:24 | <mwalling> | bennymack: blame mikegrb :) |
| 15:24 | <bd_> | ヽ(ヽﾟﾛﾟ)ﾋｲｨｨｨ!!●〓*ﾋｲｨｨｨ!!(ﾟﾛﾟﾉ)ﾉ |
| 15:24 | <bd_> | hey? |
| 15:25 | <bd_> | indeed |
| 15:25 | <purrdeta> | !rr |
| 15:25 | -!- | purrdeta was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 15:25 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 15:25 | <purrdeta> | FAIL! |
| 15:25 | <fo0bar> | SpaceHobo: ha ha +c |
| 15:26 | <mwalling> | yeah, talman ruined it |
| 15:27 | -!- | mode/#linode [-c] by caker |
| 15:27 | <@caker> | bring it on |
| 15:27 | <zeroday> | whats +c? |
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| 15:27 | <fo0bar> | *☃* *☮* *☭* |
| 15:27 | <bd_> | zeroday: filters mirc color codes |
| 15:28 | <zeroday> | oh k |
| 15:28 | <fo0bar> | hmm, where'd the blue go? |
| 15:28 | <fo0bar> | *T*E*S*T* |
| 15:28 | <gyzmodo> | =) |
| 15:28 | <jadoba> | my eyes... theyre melting |
| 15:28 | <zeroday> | !ban SpaceHobo |
| 15:28 | <fo0bar> | !no |
| 15:29 | <zeroday> | BOOOOOO!! |
| 15:29 | <fo0bar> | he fights for your right to be a dick |
| 15:29 | <mwalling> | how the hell do you do color in irssi? |
| 15:29 | <mwalling> | olor? |
| 15:29 | <mwalling> | color? |
| 15:30 | <mwalling> | |
| 15:30 | * | mwalling fails |
| 15:30 | <jadoba> | type words after the number |
| 15:30 | <bd_> | mwalling: read /usr/share/doc/irssi/formats.txt and use Ctrl-C |
| 15:30 | <fo0bar> | W I R E D and *A*M*E*R*I*C*A* are a little more complicated; there are scripts to do that |
| 15:30 | <mwalling> | no, i chose 1 |
| 15:31 | <zeroday> | oh hai |
| 15:31 | <mwalling> | zeroday: fail |
| 15:32 | <zeroday> | this is a secret message kthx |
| 15:32 | <zeroday> | why? :P |
| 15:32 | <zeroday> | mwalling orly |
| 15:32 | <zeroday> | yarly |
| 15:32 | <zeroday> | xD |
| 15:32 | <m0unds_> | total fail |
| 15:32 | <zeroday> | hehe |
| 15:33 | <m0unds_> | irssi > * |
| 15:33 | * | zeroday writes moar secret messages for non irssi users |
| 15:33 | <bd_> | zeroday: note that on many consoles background-white and foreground-white are different colros |
| 15:33 | <bd_> | colors* |
| 15:33 | <zeroday> | irssi ftl yarly |
| 15:33 | <bd_> | also, /set colors off :3 |
| 15:33 | <m0unds_> | today needs to be over |
| 15:33 | <mwalling> | zeroday: i'm using irssi... thats fail |
| 15:33 | <m0unds_> | i don't want to climb up into the ceiling |
| 15:33 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:33 | <zeroday> | lol |
| 15:33 | <m0unds_> | i want to go home and have a beer |
| 15:33 | <zeroday> | :o |
| 15:34 | <mwalling> | SpaceHobo: fine, i'll go backt o the default theme |
| 15:34 | <mwalling> | zeroday: send something again |
| 15:34 | <fo0bar> | ok, time to break out the heavy ammo |
| 15:34 | <m0unds_> | ow, my brain |
| 15:34 | <mwalling> | SpaceHobo: i was using redhead.theme, i thought that was why i couldnt read it |
| 15:35 | <zeroday> | mwalling oh wut |
| 15:35 | <mwalling> | nope, still fail |
| 15:35 | <zeroday> | too bad :P |
| 15:35 | * | mwalling blames putty |
| 15:35 | <zeroday> | how about now? |
| 15:35 | <zeroday> | how about now? |
| 15:35 | <zeroday> | better? |
| 15:35 | <zeroday> | :P |
| 15:36 | <mwalling> | yes |
| 15:36 | <zeroday> | BOO! |
| 15:36 | <mwalling> | the first one |
| 15:36 | <mwalling> | the white on silver i could read |
| 15:36 | <zeroday> | rawr |
| 15:36 | <zeroday> | rawr |
| 15:36 | <zeroday> | k, thats enough for me |
| 15:39 | <m0unds_> | !rr |
| 15:39 | <@linbot> | m0unds_: *click* |
| 15:39 | <m0unds_> | bah |
| 15:39 | <m0unds_> | back to work. |
| 15:40 | <CDMoyer> | should a new domain in the dns manager go live at the 15 minute mark? (and am I crazy that 'host domain.com ns1.linode.com') should verify it? |
| 15:41 | <CDMoyer> | well, 'host strainedfeeds.com ns1.linode.com' |
| 15:41 | <@caker> | it's every 15 minutes from the hour, not when you added it .. |
| 15:41 | <@caker> | but yes |
| 15:42 | <CDMoyer> | hmph |
| 15:42 | <CDMoyer> | oh. crap. |
| 15:45 | <CDMoyer> | hmm, ok, no... i don't know what I did wrong. |
| 15:45 | * | caker looks |
| 15:47 | <mwalling> | aah... somebody just did /exec -o dig openwrt.org AXFR into the channel |
| 15:49 | * | zeroday doesnt see anything |
| 15:49 | <CDMoyer> | now ns1 went away. ;) |
| 15:50 | <mwalling> | zeroday: not this channel, #openwrt |
| 15:50 | <zeroday> | oic |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | yeah... started a flame war as to if "being open to AXFR attacks" made any sense |
| 15:51 | <bd_> | because of course we all store our root passwords in TXT records with secret names. |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | i never thought of it |
| 15:58 | * | iggy goes to take his client's passwords out of his TXT records on his domain |
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| 16:07 | <marvinp> | Hello |
| 16:08 | <@caker> | hello marvinp |
| 16:08 | <marvinp> | I'm trying to add an additional Linode to my existing account. It's asking me for a username and to pick a password. Do I have to create a new account to add a Linode? |
| 16:09 | <@caker> | no, that's just required for Lish access |
| 16:09 | <@caker> | (it's stupid, and we're workingo on something to streamline that stuff) |
| 16:09 | <marvinp> | ahh, ok |
| 16:09 | <@mikegrb> | caker: http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/255502053/battlestar-galacticas-obama-starbuck-apollo-number-six-et-al-give-david-letterman-10 |
| 16:09 | <@caker> | most people use $username2 |
| 16:10 | <@caker> | wow .. the entire cast |
| 16:13 | <@caker> | mikegrb: thank you for that |
| 16:13 | <@mikegrb> | <3 |
| 16:17 | <@caker> | when did Linux 7.2 come out? |
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| 16:21 | <iggy> | mmm, #6 naked |
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| 16:23 | <Deckert_> | Deckert_mobile |
| 16:23 | -!- | Deckert_ is now known as Deckert_mobile |
| 16:23 | <Deckert_mobile> | pfft |
| 16:23 | * | caker is now known as caker_desktop |
| 16:23 | <Deckert_mobile> | <grin> |
| 16:23 | <@caker> | Deckert_mobile: is it really important for us to know which device you're on? |
| 16:24 | <Deckert_mobile> | caker: prolly not - but my desktop at home is logged on to many channels as 'Deckert' |
| 16:24 | <Deckert_mobile> | so this helps avoid the duplication |
| 16:26 | <Deckert_mobile> | caker: what would the proper ettiquette be |
| 16:27 | <Deckert_mobile> | (hmm that word has too many t's in it) |
| 16:28 | <@mikegrb> | Deckert_ or Deckert2 |
| 16:28 | -!- | Deckert_mobile is now known as Deckert_ |
| 16:28 | <@caker> | or screen+irssi |
| 16:28 | <mwalling> | heh.... did the +q thing fix piffen? |
| 16:29 | <@caker> | you're good. I'm a little twitchy from my newly acquired pet peeve of "I'M AWAY" nick changes :) |
| 16:29 | <Deckert_> | caker: connected at GPRS speeds which connects to a Satellite link from the southern tip of Africa ends up in +1s latency |
| 16:29 | <@caker> | yeah, you've mentioned that before :) |
| 16:29 | * | caker comforts Deckert* |
| 16:29 | <Deckert_> | caker: makes interactive stuff a but ...erm... agitating :-) |
| 16:30 | * | Deckert_ feels the warmth :) |
| 16:30 | <mwalling> | Deckert_: i lived on satellite for a year and change... glad i have Real Internet again |
| 16:30 | * | mwalling waits for m0unds |
| 16:31 | <Deckert_> | mwalling: agreed ... when at home on my DSL, things are a lot better ... but I'm high up in the Malutti mountains at the moment - no power, and barely a GORS signal |
| 16:31 | <Deckert_> | *GPRS |
| 16:31 | <Deckert_> | mwalling: where was that? |
| 16:31 | <mwalling> | US |
| 16:31 | <mwalling> | (rural NY) |
| 16:32 | * | Deckert_ thought they have DSL in every square foot in the US |
| 16:32 | <Deckert_> | (or cable) |
| 16:32 | <mwalling> | nope |
| 16:34 | <clanehin> | Deckert_: last time I signed up for DSL, well inside a major city, we were too far away from the nearest station and got intermittent connectivity (and no willingness to fix it), and forget it if you live in the boonies |
| 16:34 | <Deckert_> | clanehin: interresting - so what do you do for connectivity then? wireless? 28.8k analogue? |
| 16:35 | <mwalling> | wow... i just forwarded something to my personal email from work... it bounced through 18 (yes, 18) smtp relays before hitting the internet |
| 16:36 | <Deckert_> | golly |
| 16:36 | <Deckert_> | mwalling: large company? |
| 16:36 | * | mwalling nods |
| 16:36 | * | Deckert_ nods too |
| 16:36 | <mwalling> | but really, *18*? |
| 16:36 | <@mikegrb> | that's pathetic |
| 16:36 | <@mikegrb> | I expect at least 30 |
| 16:37 | <clanehin> | Deckert_: where I am now I have cable, but my grandparents in eastern NC has to use dial up. |
| 16:38 | <bd_> | 30? Pfft. I expect it to engage in an AI built out of sendmail rules, distributed over at least 256 nodes. Twice. |
| 16:38 | <mwalling> | bd_: they're exchange servers |
| 16:38 | <bd_> | mwalling: Or are they? |
| 16:38 | <bd_> | That's just how skynet is evading detection. |
| 16:39 | <mwalling> | bd_: we're a bread and butter MS client... they're exchange servers |
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| 16:40 | <kidbluz> | If I were to create a raw disk image and upload the contents of a virtual machine, what would be the proper way to go about that? |
| 16:42 | <mwalling> | http://linode.com/wiki/index.php/Custom_Distribution |
| 16:43 | <kidbluz> | mwalling, thank you, I have seen that. More specifically, I'm interested in the "in-between" steps. |
| 16:44 | <kidbluz> | For example, would I do a dump of each partition, zip it then transfer it to a running finnix install? |
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| 16:58 | <@caker> | explosivo! |
| 16:58 | <kidbluz> | ok, I'll take it that means I'm on to something... :) |
| 16:58 | <@caker> | kidbluz: partitions? |
| 16:59 | <atourino> | caker knows spanish |
| 16:59 | <kidbluz> | here's basically what I'm trying to figure out... |
| 16:59 | <atourino> | do you guys remember Bo knows... |
| 16:59 | <@caker> | kidbluz: make each disk image, mount it under some other distro, and then rsync it up to each one |
| 16:59 | <atourino> | haha |
| 17:00 | <kidbluz> | Is it better to create raw space and "transfer" data at the partition level, or create partitions and overwrite the data and the data level? |
| 17:00 | <@caker> | In my opinion at the fs level |
| 17:00 | <@caker> | the files, not the raw image |
| 17:00 | <kidbluz> | Should I exclude boot or does it not matter? |
| 17:01 | <@caker> | boot is unused |
| 17:01 | <kidbluz> | And what is the advantage of the file level? |
| 17:01 | <@caker> | less data? |
| 17:01 | <kidbluz> | Hmm, because of unused space? |
| 17:01 | <@caker> | yes |
| 17:01 | <kidbluz> | gotcha |
| 17:02 | <kidbluz> | that makes sense |
| 17:02 | <kidbluz> | So, I should be able to just make partitions without setting up an OS, boot into Finnix, copy everything over, fix the disk devices and boot into the new OS? |
| 17:03 | <mwalling> | yes |
| 17:03 | <mwalling> | caker: that wiki page should be updated with tty1 for xen |
| 17:04 | <kidbluz> | Seems pretty straight-forward but I figured I must be missing something.. Do I need to change the MAC address or anything? |
| 17:04 | <mwalling> | huh? |
| 17:04 | <mwalling> | never mind, i dont want to know.... |
| 17:04 | <kidbluz> | The linode DHCP server uses reserved leases I presume.. |
| 17:05 | <mwalling> | yes... |
| 17:05 | <kidbluz> | Which would be based on MAC |
| 17:05 | <@caker> | we assign the mac |
| 17:05 | <kidbluz> | OK, so my image would overwrite it, which means I should plan to keep what you give me. |
| 17:05 | <mwalling> | why would your mac be in the filesystem though? |
| 17:06 | <kidbluz> | My NIC would be different |
| 17:06 | <@caker> | newer udevs or something assign each MAC that it ever detects its own ethN device |
| 17:06 | <@caker> | and will rename devices accordingly next boot... it sucks :) |
| 17:06 | <mwalling> | meh |
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| 17:06 | <mwalling> | rm /etc/udev/rules.d/75-networking-devices.rule |
| 17:06 | <mwalling> | problem solved |
| 17:06 | <@caker> | it'll either be that file, or /etc/iftab I believe |
| 17:07 | <NigBot> | I want to take a niggger bitch, impregnate her, keep her milk production up, and sell nigggger milk and cheese. Some of them have titts bigger than udders....anybody want to enslave some nigggger bitttches for my nigggger dairy.....they are fucckkkable too |
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| 17:07 | <kidbluz> | lovely |
| 17:07 | <Toba_> | how charming |
| 17:07 | <mwalling> | who puts udev on a server though? |
| 17:08 | <@caker> | udo |
| 17:08 | <mwalling> | noidont |
| 17:09 | <atourino> | o rly? |
| 17:09 | <atourino> | yarly |
| 17:09 | <atourino> | I should be doing something productive... |
| 17:09 | <zeroday> | no wai |
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| 17:13 | <@linbot> | I like cheese |
| 17:13 | <JDLSpeedy> | zeroday: u get it? |
| 17:13 | <zeroday> | ? |
| 17:13 | <JDLSpeedy> | trim in mysql |
| 17:14 | <zeroday> | oh yeah, I ended up using a perl function someone wrote before its sent to the db |
| 17:14 | <JDLSpeedy> | ah |
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| 17:25 | <mwalling> | caker: ...... |
| 17:25 | <mwalling> | why is ns1 trying to notify another slave (mwalling) about a zone mastered on markwalling? |
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