| --- | Log | opened Sun Mar 16 00:00:01 2008 |
| --- | Day | changed Sun Mar 16 2008 |
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| 00:03 | <mariorz> | !rr |
| 00:03 | -!- | mariorz was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 00:03 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 00:03 | <mwalling> | !rr |
| 00:03 | <@linbot> | mwalling: *click* |
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| 00:04 | <mariorz> | :P |
| 00:06 | <mjsotn> | hmm ok so am about to rsync this FS over ... I was planning to use -a -h -r -s did I leave anything out do you think? |
| 00:13 | <JasonF> | rsync -a is enough. |
| 00:13 | <JasonF> | a implies rsh, iirc |
| 00:16 | <DennisTT> | Question: How do I make a backup of a disk image? |
| 00:16 | <mjsotn> | -a does not include -h |
| 00:16 | <mjsotn> | well that's what the man page says |
| 00:17 | <mwalling> | DennisTT: cp? |
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| 00:17 | <mjsotn> | DennisTT if you only used half your allocated space you could clone it. |
| 00:17 | <DennisTT> | Is it the duplicate image button? |
| 00:18 | <bd_> | Supposedly LVM snapshots are coming Real Soon Now(tm) too |
| 00:18 | <@caker> | however, snapshot != backup |
| 00:19 | <@caker> | neither is disk duplicate, either, really (on the same host) |
| 00:19 | <JasonF> | lvm snapshots are Already Here(tm) |
| 00:19 | <DennisTT> | Or is there a way to download the current disk image? |
| 00:19 | <DennisTT> | Err |
| 00:20 | <DennisTT> | Scratch that thought |
| 00:25 | <DennisTT> | Ok what's the recommended way to 'backup data' |
| 00:26 | <mwalling> | 00:17 < mwalling> DennisTT: cp? |
| 00:26 | <@caker> | rsync, rdiff-backup, tar+gzip/bzip+scp, etc, etc |
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| 00:27 | <DennisTT> | <mwalling> 00:17 < mwalling> DennisTT: cp? |
| 00:27 | * | caker starts backuping |
| 00:27 | <JasonF> | 00:27 < DennisTT> <mwalling> 00:17 < mwalling> DennisTT: cp? |
| 00:27 | <DennisTT> | Ok I only got my linode today >.> |
| 00:27 | <DennisTT> | So if I have enough space for another disk image |
| 00:28 | <@caker> | DennisTT: if the host catches on fire, what then? |
| 00:28 | <DennisTT> | I can click 'duplicate image' and that would essentially make a backup of my current configuration right? |
| 00:28 | <JasonF> | DennisTT: that's not a real backup |
| 00:28 | <JasonF> | DennisTT: read the thread in the forums about s3 |
| 00:28 | <@caker> | DennisTT: in my opinion, a backup implies an off site copy |
| 00:28 | <JasonF> | cheep and real backups |
| 00:28 | <@caker> | or at least, off machine |
| 00:29 | <DennisTT> | So would the right word be snapshot then? |
| 00:29 | <@caker> | you want a snapshot so you can roll back, or a true backup? |
| 00:30 | <DennisTT> | yeah roll back |
| 00:30 | * | caker is still suspicious |
| 00:31 | <DennisTT> | suspicious? |
| 00:31 | <@caker> | that you are sure what you want (or that I'm sure what you're asking, really) :) |
| 00:31 | <DennisTT> | Ok I want to save the current image of the disk, so that if I install something and I screw up I can go back to the working image |
| 00:32 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:32 | <DennisTT> | Does that make it more clear? lol |
| 00:32 | <mwalling> | System Restore |
| 00:32 | <mwalling> | ;) |
| 00:32 | <@caker> | yes... a "disk duplicate" would work for the very short term, but it's still not a backup |
| 00:33 | <@caker> | You'll eventually (soon) want to copy your goods off to a remote location (like your home box, or another Linode) |
| 00:33 | <@caker> | You have been warned. |
| 00:33 | <DennisTT> | ok and for that I use rsync or those things you listed right? |
| 00:34 | <@caker> | yes, or other options |
| 00:34 | <Pryon> | I suppose I should consider doing backups |
| 00:35 | <DennisTT> | Ok thanks caker |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | New policy: random Linode deletion |
| 00:36 | * | caker knows that someday, he will eat those words |
| 00:39 | <DennisTT> | BTW the Linode control panel is amazing |
| 00:39 | <DennisTT> | nice work |
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| 00:40 | <Pryon> | No, no sweet-talking. He's gonna start blowing away our linodes! |
| 00:46 | <Talman> | If my image is detonated in the next five minutes, I think just about everything is safe. |
| 00:46 | * | Talman hasn't tested restore from S3 yet. |
| 00:47 | <mwalling> | i'm going to rsync to my house... |
| 00:47 | <mwalling> | now that i have real internet and all |
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| 00:58 | <mjsotn> | hmmmm |
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| 01:33 | <mjsotn> | $ |
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| 01:33 | <mwalling> | yes! |
| 01:33 | <mwalling> | finally got one of my desktops set up |
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| 04:12 | <jagga> | hi 2 all |
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| 07:48 | <dj2008> | www.stroganov-shop.ru |
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| 07:51 | <encode> | SpaceHobo: really? |
| 07:51 | <encode> | it might be fun |
| 07:51 | <encode> | or something else |
| 07:52 | <encode> | hmm, the site doesn't make much sense in elinks |
| 07:52 | <encode> | and theres no way i'm opening it in anything else |
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| 07:57 | <Peng> | Ha! I live for danger! /me opens it in Firefox. |
| 07:58 | <Peng> | SpaceHobo: I dunno. It's Cyrillic. Not a rickroll though. |
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| 08:11 | <sobersabre> | hi |
| 08:11 | <sobersabre> | guys, I'm trying to register on linode. it says "no free email provider please". |
| 08:11 | <sobersabre> | Is gmail ok ?! |
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| 08:33 | <sobersabre> | why doubtful ? |
| 08:33 | <sobersabre> | SpaceHobo: are you a Linode worker ? |
| 08:33 | <chesty> | how much did you pay for your gmail account? |
| 08:34 | <sobersabre> | the same amount i've paid for my work email. |
| 08:34 | <sobersabre> | so, can't I give my work email ? |
| 08:34 | <sobersabre> | :) |
| 08:34 | <sobersabre> | chesty: are you employee or just assuming ? |
| 08:34 | <chesty> | i imagine it's an identity thing, not an employee, no, just being a smart arse ;) |
| 08:35 | <JDLSpeedy> | caker, mikegrb, tasaro are the staff of this operation |
| 08:35 | <sobersabre> | chesty: for Identity is something verified by paper faxing. |
| 08:35 | <sobersabre> | or phone call. |
| 08:35 | <sobersabre> | etc. |
| 08:35 | <sobersabre> | anyway thanks for the response... keep up the good work of making some net traffic. |
| 08:36 | <sobersabre> | caker: are you up ? |
| 08:39 | <encode> | its really the wrong time of day for caker to be up |
| 08:39 | <encode> | especially on the weekend |
| 08:39 | <encode> | maybe in a few hours? |
| 08:39 | <sobersabre> | guys, what is more eastern: georgia or texas ? |
| 08:40 | <Peng> | Georgia. |
| 08:40 | <Peng> | The Atlanta data center blocks more ports than the others though, including 6667. |
| 08:40 | <Peng> | Inbound and outbound. |
| 08:40 | <sobersabre> | i don't care. |
| 08:40 | <sobersabre> | where is the cable to europe ? |
| 08:41 | <sobersabre> | is it closer to atalnta or dallas ? |
| 08:41 | <Peng> | sobersabre: You could do tests yourself. |
| 08:42 | <Peng> | Hold on. |
| 08:42 | <sobersabre> | I don't know al the details, but maybe you checked that and the answer would take you 1 sec. |
| 08:42 | <sobersabre> | can you give me atlanta host IP and Dallas host IP ? |
| 08:42 | <sobersabre> | I'd check the routes. |
| 08:43 | <Peng> | Yeah, there's a forum thread with that information (and test files to download), but I never have a link to it. |
| 08:43 | <Peng> | Somewhere on http://www.linode.com/forums/ . |
| 08:43 | <sobersabre> | thanks Peng |
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| 08:44 | <Hobbsee> | !google linode speed test |
| 08:44 | <@linbot> | Hobbsee: Search took 0.18 seconds: Linode .com Forum :: View topic - Download File Speed Test: <http://www.linode.com/forums/archive/o_t/t_2636/download_file_speed_test.html>;; Linode .com Forum :: Download File Speed Test: <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636>;; Just got rolling with a VPS on Linode (Part 2) | jeffbeeman.com: <http://www.jeffbeeman.com/node/24>;; Linode Vs.. SliceHost Vs. ServerAxis (3 more messages) |
| 08:44 | <Hobbsee> | sobersabre: first link |
| 08:44 | <Peng> | Gah. |
| 08:45 | <Peng> | I just got it. |
| 08:45 | <Peng> | And I knew I should have tried Google. |
| 08:45 | <sobersabre> | Hobbsee: thanks1 |
| 08:45 | <sobersabre> | Hobbsee: thanks! |
| 08:45 | <Hobbsee> | you're welcome |
| 08:47 | <sobersabre> | I would like to test routes from my location to atlanta and dallas. |
| 08:47 | <sobersabre> | is there a "known" host for |
| 08:48 | <sobersabre> | both locations ? |
| 08:48 | <sobersabre> | like host22.atlanta.linode.com |
| 08:48 | <Hobbsee> | how does that help? |
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| 08:49 | <sobersabre> | I could see how many hops I run until I reach. |
| 08:49 | <sobersabre> | this can tell me what latency I shall expect. |
| 08:49 | <sobersabre> | and what routers I can expect to be problematic at somepoint. |
| 08:49 | <Hobbsee> | the hosts all in the same DC.... |
| 08:50 | <Hobbsee> | so shouldn't the latency be the same for each of the hosts? |
| 08:50 | <sobersabre> | yes. |
| 08:50 | <sobersabre> | hmm. |
| 08:50 | <sobersabre> | moment |
| 08:50 | <sobersabre> | I need host from Dallas. |
| 08:50 | <sobersabre> | and ahost from Texas |
| 08:50 | <sobersabre> | they will have diff. routes. |
| 08:51 | * | Peng points out that Dallas is in Texas? |
| 08:51 | <Hobbsee> | sobersabre: the IP of that machine is 67.18.92.50 - can you use that instead? |
| 08:51 | <sobersabre> | yes. |
| 08:51 | * | Hobbsee still is failing to see how sobersabre will find it helpful, but... |
| 08:51 | <sobersabre> | is this atlanta ? |
| 08:51 | <Hobbsee> | no, that's dallas |
| 08:51 | <Hobbsee> | (found by host) |
| 08:51 | <sobersabre> | ok |
| 08:51 | <sobersabre> | any such in atlanta ? |
| 08:52 | <Hobbsee> | use host on the atlanta host listed there to get that IP |
| 08:52 | <sobersabre> | ok |
| 08:53 | <sobersabre> | I am at the stage of choice where to put the linode. |
| 08:53 | <sobersabre> | so I maybe am not familiar with all the terms you use, |
| 08:53 | <sobersabre> | like "host listed there" |
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| 08:55 | <Peng> | sobersabre: You can use the websites that the forum thread lists. |
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| 09:10 | <sobersabre> | Peng: I went for georgia. |
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| 09:10 | <sobersabre> | :) |
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| 09:10 | <sobersabre> | thanks. |
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| 10:19 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hi |
| 10:19 | <SystemFAILURE> | Anybody noticed a fuckup of the bandwidth on Dallas ? (i'm running on Xen host117.dallas) |
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| 11:57 | <Schroeder> | GUESS WHAT TODAY IS! |
| 11:57 | <purrdeta> | did you make a macro for that or something |
| 11:57 | <Pryon> | st. patrick's day eve! |
| 11:57 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:57 | <purrdeta> | said it exactly the same time in 3 channels I was in lol |
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| 11:59 | <Schroeder> | nope |
| 11:59 | <Schroeder> | From the Bristol Motor Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee...it's the FOOD CITY 500! |
| 11:59 | <Schroeder> | purrdeta: it's called /amsg |
| 12:00 | <purrdeta> | its called mass spam. |
| 12:00 | <mwalling> | purrdeta: its Schroeder ... its /ignore :) |
| 12:00 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 12:00 | <purrdeta> | lol |
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| 13:05 | <jagga> | dear friends) |
| 13:05 | <jagga> | i have som trouble in work with php arrays |
| 13:05 | <jagga> | maybe someone can help me? |
| 13:06 | <jagga> | just stupid func. witch randomly choose 10 arrays from 400 |
| 13:06 | <cruxeter1us> | jagga: try #php on Freenode :) |
| 13:07 | <jagga> | just do it for 4 yours) |
| 13:07 | <jagga> | ))) |
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| 13:30 | <Schroeder> | mmm...Bob Sanders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCfFhSzZVu0 |
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| 14:04 | <webPragmatist> | Schroeder: wow i fell asleep half way through that video |
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| 16:39 | <sobersabre> | hi. |
| 16:44 | <sobersabre> | I have some questions. I see I have "create a new conf. profile.", new "disk image" or "distro wizard". |
| 16:44 | <sobersabre> | what's the diff between them ? |
| 16:44 | <sobersabre> | I want to install a stable debian distro. |
| 16:44 | <sobersabre> | I want to manually partition the hard disk in my convenient way. |
| 16:44 | <sobersabre> | what option shall I choose ? |
| 16:44 | <sobersabre> | is there a manual ? |
| 16:46 | <sobersabre> | ok, I've found WiKi. |
| 16:46 | <erikh> | congrtulations! you've found a +1 Wiki of Enlightenment |
| 16:56 | <sobersabre> | hmm.. |
| 16:56 | <sobersabre> | I don't see how can I partition my linode before installation. |
| 16:57 | <sobersabre> | is it possible to have partitions for /home, swap, / , /tmp and /var partitions ? |
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| 17:01 | <encode> | sobersabre: basically, deploy the linode image with the space you want for / (and also configure swap) |
| 17:01 | <encode> | then, before booting, you can create additional disks |
| 17:01 | <encode> | and assign them to your linode's profile |
| 17:01 | <encode> | by editing that profile in the web interface |
| 17:02 | <sobersabre> | encode: all I have now is the "web interface". so you say, I am doing a smaller / partition, and then after I've added some configuration details, options to add additional partitions (which you refer to as "disks") will appear. |
| 17:03 | <sobersabre> | right ? |
| 17:03 | <encode> | yep |
| 17:03 | <sobersabre> | okidox. |
| 17:03 | <encode> | once you've deployed the initial image, you'll return to the dashboard page |
| 17:04 | <encode> | click on the link associated with that profile |
| 17:04 | <sobersabre> | I have another q. I don't know if it's in the faq. |
| 17:04 | <encode> | (something like My <distro> profile) |
| 17:04 | <sobersabre> | I will use Debian. |
| 17:04 | <encode> | and you can set your drives (basically your /etc/fstab) in that profile |
| 17:04 | <sobersabre> | is there a "local" == free, no "traffic costs" internal to linode mirror of Debian ? |
| 17:05 | <encode> | no |
| 17:05 | <encode> | there is no linode mirror of any distro |
| 17:05 | <encode> | but you get so much bandwidth with your linode, why would you need one? |
| 17:05 | <sobersabre> | so, daily apt-get upgrade can actually be very costy.. |
| 17:05 | <erikh> | man, if you manage to cap out your bandwidth getting debian packages, you've got a problem |
| 17:05 | <encode> | not really. it's not like debian release many GBs of packages eveyr day |
| 17:06 | <encode> | erikh: heh. so true |
| 17:06 | <erikh> | heh, most likely a problem with the debian server maintainers nullrouting your ass for leeching |
| 17:06 | <sobersabre> | I don't have the "feel" of how much the cap is capping me YET. but I need to daily backup the system. aye ? so it's 1-2 hundreds of MB daily. |
| 17:07 | <sobersabre> | ok, assuming I have a smart backup soft., it will do the differential backup. |
| 17:07 | <erikh> | sobersabre: to give you an idea, if I don't make an explicit attempt to see how much traffic I can snake before it resets, my backups + administration + mail/web services never bumps my cap above 0% |
| 17:08 | <Peng> | What happens if you go over your bandwidth limit? |
| 17:08 | <erikh> | heh, no idea. |
| 17:08 | <encode> | heh, Ive used 9% of my bandwidth, which includes daily backups, and quite a few large file transfers |
| 17:09 | <encode> | its pretty unlikely that you'll use your bandwidth cap, unless you get DoS'd or something |
| 17:09 | <Peng> | Yeah, but I'm still curious. |
| 17:10 | <erikh> | ask caker when he's around. my experience with linode has been, you say "ack ack! I don't want to get shut off!" and they'll say, "let's work it out" |
| 17:10 | <sobersabre> | I am planning to use the linode for: 1. web app devel, 2. svn of all the relevant code/conf, 3. mail/communication-ldap etc. |
| 17:10 | <erikh> | as opposed to "here's my middle finger, that work for you?" |
| 17:10 | <Peng> | Eww, svn. |
| 17:10 | <sobersabre> | I am planning to backup it all daily. |
| 17:10 | <Peng> | erikh: Heh, that sounds ok. :) |
| 17:11 | <encode> | sobersabre: as long as you're doing differentials, and not full backups, i don' |
| 17:11 | <encode> | t see how you'll come close to your bandwidth cap |
| 17:16 | <sobersabre> | ok |
| 17:16 | <sobersabre> | sounds ok. |
| 17:16 | <sobersabre> | nice actually. |
| 17:16 | <sobersabre> | do linode guys plan to expand and take over the world some day ? |
| 17:16 | <erikh> | I think so |
| 17:17 | <sobersabre> | I would recommend them to. |
| 17:17 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 17:17 | <sveiss> | if they do, would it be free cake for all? |
| 17:19 | <Schroeder> | once again, the transgressions of cheaters has cost Tony Stewart a rightful win |
| 17:20 | <webPragmatist> | in order to take over the world you must allow us no bandwidth restrictions |
| 17:20 | <webPragmatist> | like vpsfarm :) |
| 17:26 | <encode> | thats pretty foolish, and just asking to be exploited |
| 17:27 | <encode> | bandwidth costs real money, something that has to factor into the business model somehow |
| 17:27 | <encode> | if vpsfarm can offer unlimited bandwidth, then they're cutting corners somewhere else |
| 17:27 | <erikh> | if they globally cap |
| 17:27 | <erikh> | then the guys who aren't running torrents all day lose |
| 17:28 | <erikh> | dunno. |
| 17:28 | <Peng> | Seems vpsFarm offers X mbps. |
| 17:28 | <Peng> | 1 mbps for the $20 plan. That kind of sucks. |
| 17:29 | <erikh> | yeah, considering between this last message and this one I downloaded over 260 .debs |
| 17:29 | <erikh> | and I typed slow |
| 17:32 | <encode> | also considering that i've successfully transferred files from my linode to other external sites in the order of 5MBytes/sec |
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| 19:06 | <sobersabre> | hm |
| 19:08 | <sobersabre> | what kind of hardware IPS or IDS or load balancing can linode offer as of .. now + 1/2 year ? |
| 19:08 | <sobersabre> | any ideas ? |
| 19:09 | <sobersabre> | I mean some kind of DoS or DDoS attack protection. |
| 19:09 | <sobersabre> | is there any possibility to buy a package with this protection ? |
| 19:09 | <sobersabre> | [from linode, of course][from linode, of course] |
| 19:11 | <sobersabre> | I am not "looking forward" any such thing. |
| 19:11 | <sobersabre> | :") |
| 19:11 | <sobersabre> | are you kidding ? |
| 19:11 | <sobersabre> | yet, there are many weirdos around the globe. not only nice people like you and I. |
| 19:12 | <erikh> | what he's saying is, if you're attracting it, you probably need more than linode |
| 19:12 | <erikh> | or a vps service |
| 19:12 | <erikh> | (in general) |
| 19:12 | <erikh> | at least that's how I interpreted it |
| 19:12 | <sobersabre> | erikh: you are a lawyer, are you :) ? |
| 19:12 | <erikh> | no, I write open source software for a living |
| 19:13 | <erikh> | which is kind of like being a lawyer. |
| 19:13 | <erikh> | long hours, lots of arguing, politics |
| 19:13 | <sobersabre> | erikh: free lance or employee ? |
| 19:13 | <erikh> | emp |
| 19:14 | <sobersabre> | well, I have a serious allergy to some kind of politics in big companies that can afford open source... |
| 19:14 | <sobersabre> | :( |
| 19:14 | <sobersabre> | and small companies usually cannot go into open source, at least as long as they're small. |
| 19:15 | <sobersabre> | so, basically I don't code almost anything in oss area. |
| 19:15 | <sobersabre> | which is yet another :( |
| 19:15 | <sobersabre> | day will come, and I will get to an early pension.... :-) |
| 19:15 | <erikh> | i'm at a small consultancy |
| 19:16 | <erikh> | basically, you pay us, we GPL the work, you get features from other paid work for free |
| 19:17 | <erikh> | the app increases in features and everyone wins |
| 19:17 | <erikh> | it's working well enough |
| 19:18 | <erikh> | cygnus was targeting enterprises |
| 19:18 | <erikh> | dunno if that's our owners' plans |
| 19:19 | <erikh> | heh |
| 19:19 | <erikh> | itanium I assume? |
| 19:20 | <erikh> | ah |
| 19:20 | <erikh> | then probably alpha |
| 19:20 | <erikh> | heh |
| 19:20 | <erikh> | aha |
| 19:21 | <erikh> | cygwin is very useful, but I have trouble seeing how it could make them money |
| 19:21 | <erikh> | or could have |
| 19:21 | <erikh> | didn't they do egcs too? |
| 19:21 | <erikh> | ah, that's it |
| 19:22 | <erikh> | heh |
| 19:22 | <erikh> | C++ is a lot better than anything sun's put out in the last 10 years. |
| 19:22 | <erikh> | dunno, Ocaml seems to pull it off |
| 19:23 | <erikh> | and the objective-c guys aren't crying too loud |
| 19:23 | <erikh> | neat. |
| 19:24 | <erikh> | which means they were paying his phone bill |
| 19:24 | <erikh> | eh, just a bad figure of speech |
| 19:24 | <erikh> | heh, sweet |
| 19:25 | <erikh> | I remember them pre-cygwin, but I don't remember what they did |
| 19:25 | <erikh> | heh |
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| 19:25 | <erikh> | I think codesourcery has taken over most of that work these days |
| 19:25 | <erikh> | and redhat |
| 19:26 | <erikh> | ah |
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| 19:50 | <sobersabre> | ok, guys, I will be around, thanks for the help! |
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| 20:59 | <Talman> | Hey, I gotta a question. |
| 20:59 | <Talman> | I'm currently ripping something to my linode. 300k a sec. Is this bad? |
| 20:59 | <Talman> | Its a wget command. |
| 20:59 | <Toba_> | no |
| 20:59 | <Toba_> | its not |
| 20:59 | <Talman> | Cool. |
| 21:00 | <Toba_> | you won't get in trouble for that, hell i'm moving a few gigs at a couple megabits right now |
| 21:04 | <Talman> | Nice. |
| 21:04 | <Talman> | I wasn't sure how much stress is stress. |
| 21:13 | <bd_> | as long as you stay within your monthly quota... :) |
| 21:24 | <Talman> | Well, yes. |
| 21:30 | <m0unds> | i think people who --omg-optimize nightly builds of buggy apps are probably more of a nuisance than grabbing some files via wget.. |
| 21:30 | <Pryon> | haha. I'll have to remember that compiler switch |
| 21:30 | <m0unds> | it's a good 'un |
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| 21:59 | <encode> | i just tried it, it doesn't improve my gentoo performance |
| 21:59 | <encode> | </flame> |
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| 22:00 | <mjsotn> | Just a quick quesiton, I have created a custom distribution with the rescue shell, however when I reboot it I have no eth0 device, so dhcp won't start. |
| 22:02 | <encode> | the infoto configure your nic statically is in the web interface |
| 22:03 | <@mikegrb> | mjsotn: eth1? |
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| 22:07 | <mjsotn> | umm but I can't even configure it statically if I "ifconfig eth0" I get "no such device" |
| 22:09 | <@mikegrb> | try eth1? |
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| 22:09 | <mjsotn> | ahh I do have an eth1 |
| 22:09 | <mjsotn> | hmm wonder why that is |
| 22:10 | <@mikegrb> | /etc/iftab or a udev rule |
| 22:10 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> Hi , im triying to make a program on my virtual and [jorge@denali Unreal3.2.7]$ make install |
| 22:10 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> -bash: make: command not found |
| 22:10 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> how i can install the application for make? |
| 22:10 | <@mikegrb> | which distro? |
| 22:11 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> CentOS |
| 22:11 | <webPragmatis1> | 1111 |
| 22:11 | <@mikegrb> | need to install make/gcc etc via yum |
| 22:11 | <@mikegrb> | no clue on a package name ;) |
| 22:12 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> how i can do that? |
| 22:12 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> im newbie |
| 22:12 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> :-( |
| 22:12 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> can help me? |
| 22:12 | <@mikegrb> | debian/ubuntu have a package named build-essential that depends on make, gcc, etc |
| 22:12 | <@mikegrb> | I'm not a centos user though |
| 22:12 | * | Hobbsee suggests http://www.centos.org/docs/ |
| 22:13 | <@mikegrb> | thanks Hobbsee |
| 22:13 | < | ][EvIl-BoY][> thanks |
| 22:13 | <Hobbsee> | again, i'm not a centos user either, so... |
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| 22:14 | <mjsotn> | ahh yep, it was a udev rule |
| 22:15 | <mjsotn> | has my vmware config as eth0 so the uml net device got assigned eth1 |
| 22:15 | <mjsotn> | thx |
| 22:16 | <@mikegrb> | no prob |
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| 23:11 | * | guinea-pig [heart] build-essential |
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| 23:38 | <barleyman> | * what firewall do people use |
| 23:38 | <@caker> | iptables |
| 23:39 | <barleyman> | can you run multiple linodes on one account? |
| 23:39 | <Battousai> | ipfwadm! |
| 23:39 | <@caker> | Battousai: heh |
| 23:39 | <@caker> | barleyman: you can add multiple Linodes under one account, yes. |
| 23:40 | <barleyman> | but you have to pay for each one, correct |
| 23:40 | <@caker> | yup |
| 23:40 | <barleyman> | ok, that is what I thought, but I wasnn't sure |
| 23:42 | <bd_> | Theoretically you could run UMLs in Xen... but the performance might not be too good without the host kernel patch... |
| 23:42 | <bd_> | you could run UML in UML too I think but that seems like even higher overhead |
| 23:42 | <@caker> | you can also nest UML inside UML |
| 23:43 | <Battousai> | does anybody use their linode for that? |
| 23:43 | <@caker> | bd_: skas0 (mode UML runs in on an unpatched host) isn't too bad |
| 23:43 | <@caker> | It's come up before, so possibly... |
| 23:45 | <bd_> | hmmm |
| 23:45 | <bd_> | been a while since I looked at UML last I guess :) |
| 23:45 | <@caker> | CONFIG_NEST_LEVEL=0 <-- set that to 1 and you're golden |
| 23:46 | <@caker> | do you have a /proc/mm inside your UML? |
| 23:46 | <@caker> | I think skas3 passes through, too |
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| 23:47 | <bd_> | not on 2.6.23.12-linode41 at least |
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