| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 14 00:00:34 2008 |
| 00:16 | <Toba__> | anyone know a tool that lets you give an ip address and shows how sending a packet there would interact with the kernel routing table? |
| --- | Log | closed Fri Mar 14 00:16:54 2008 |
| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 14 00:18:12 2008 |
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| 01:23 | <mjsotn> | hi |
| 01:28 | <booja> | not low |
| 01:30 | <mjsotn> | \ |
| 01:32 | <Toba__> | / |
| 01:33 | <mjsotn> | sorry, didn't mean to do that. |
| 01:37 | <jkwood> | Dance party? |
| 01:37 | <mjsotn> | Just about to sign up for a Linode ... just wanted to find out what people think of UML before I do. |
| 01:37 | <jkwood> | Works well for me. |
| 01:37 | <mjsotn> | I ran it on a dev box a couple of years back and thought it was pretty good back then. |
| 01:39 | <mjsotn> | Currently have a VPS with another company who is using OpenVZ, but it's down more often than it's up. |
| 01:43 | <booja> | <3 linode |
| 01:46 | <mjsotn> | hmmm 720MB plan is unavailable until the 20th. |
| 01:46 | <booja> | !avail |
| 01:46 | <@linbot> | booja: Linode360 - 38, Linode540 - 1, Linode720 - 0, Linode1080 - 0, Linode1440 - 0 |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | there's xen too |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | (beta) |
| 01:47 | <booja> | none left last I heard ? |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | oh? |
| 01:47 | <booja> | yesterday or whenever it was |
| 01:47 | <booja> | someone mentioned it |
| 01:48 | <mjsotn> | could always get a 360 I guess and upgrade later. |
| 01:52 | <jkwood> | Indeed. My 360 has server me well. |
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| 01:53 | <jkwood> | s/server/served/ |
| 01:55 | * | Talman uses a 360 for web hosting. |
| 01:55 | <Talman> | And an openfire server, and dev work. |
| 01:59 | <mjsotn> | that's pretty good, OpenFire being a java app and all. |
| 02:00 | <Talman> | Oddly runs just fine. |
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| 02:02 | <barley> | What is the popular choice for firewalls among linode users? |
| 02:03 | <Talman> | What's a firewall? |
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| 02:05 | <mjsotn> | I quite like uif |
| 02:05 | <jkwood> | firewall? |
| 02:06 | <jkwood> | I've got some 800 miles between me and my linode. If that puppy explodes, I won't be in any danger. |
| 02:06 | <mjsotn> | http://lug.fh-swf.de/uif/ |
| 02:07 | <barley> | thanks for both the jokes and real answers :) |
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| 02:10 | <barley> | I have used apf in the past but haven't shopped around for a couple of years |
| 02:11 | <mjsotn> | well you could jsut write out the iptables rules I guess. |
| 02:14 | <mjsotn> | anyway am out of here, thanks for the input. |
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| 03:21 | <asanghi> | hi guys .. is it possible to downgrade a linode instance? |
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| 03:24 | <bd_> | because if you can't get an answer in three minutes at 3am, it's clearly not worth waiting any longer |
| 03:26 | <jkwood> | Naturally. |
| 03:28 | <bd_> | Here we have a fine example of TCP-over-IRC, using its default TTL settings |
| 03:29 | <MadeOfWin> | irc should be a udp protocol |
| 03:29 | <bd_> | Although it seems retransmissions have been disabled. |
| 03:29 | <bd_> | Heh |
| 03:29 | <bd_> | sometimes it does seem that way |
| 03:31 | <jkwood> | Well, if I would properly set up my irc client to "ding" upon messages... although that doesn't really matter, as I didn't know anyway. |
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| 05:19 | <agentbleubleu> | i need help |
| 05:19 | <agentbleubleu> | hehe |
| 05:19 | <agentbleubleu> | morning all |
| 05:19 | <agentbleubleu> | no just kidding |
| 05:19 | <agentbleubleu> | just wanted to log in and say a big thank you again to bdragon |
| 05:19 | <agentbleubleu> | Swap: 262136k total, 0k used, 262136k free, 257576k cached |
| 05:21 | <agentbleubleu> | it is would appear that my little linode is functioning like a dream |
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| 05:50 | <LDW> | hi |
| 05:51 | <LDW> | I just signed up for a linode account. What sort of time frame am I looking at before I can use it? |
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| 06:03 | <agentbleubleu> | it should be set up within a few minutes mine was, but i guess it depends on time zones |
| 06:04 | <agentbleubleu> | have you gone to the distro wizard? |
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| 06:07 | <LDW> | I got a payment reciept but the site said I will be contacted agian and they may ask for a signed contract to be faxed. |
| 06:09 | <Peng> | Approvals are not automatic . . |
| 06:09 | <LDW> | I guess I'll have to wait unitl business hours at least then. Does anybody know what timezone that is? |
| 06:17 | <agentbleubleu> | normally in a couple of hours they rise |
| 06:17 | <sakaal> | I am currently logged on through Lish. I cannot get to my node using regular SSH2. |
| 06:20 | <sakaal> | and this lish does not work well with my screen |
| 06:21 | <sakaal> | whenever i logon through lish, i come directly to my irc client and can't check what is wrong with my linode |
| 06:22 | <sakaal> | maybe i quit this irc and create a ticket if i can't figure it out otherwise... |
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| 06:31 | <mwalling> | heh... caker fail |
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| 08:13 | <sakaal> | there were several intrusion attempts to my linode. had to tighten my firewall rules |
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| 09:05 | * | caker lands in his spaceship |
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| 09:21 | <Pryon> | better than landing *on* it, I suppose. |
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| 09:30 | <richard-blaine> | hola |
| 09:31 | <richard-blaine> | if i want to set up a vpn, what would a recommended distro be? |
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| 09:44 | <rick111> | ;d |
| 09:50 | -!- | tmus [~tmus@host-88-83-11-035.greennet.gl] has joined #linode |
| 09:53 | <tmus> | hi there. does anyone have a list of linode hosts in each linode-location, that can be used to tjek which location is best, latency-wise, from my particular location? |
| 09:54 | <rick111> | there is a post on the forum that allows you to do download tests from various nodes@diff locatioins |
| 09:54 | <Bdragon> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 |
| 09:55 | <Bdragon> | For download speeds.. |
| 09:55 | <Bdragon> | Otherwise, I think you can just ping hosts. |
| 09:56 | <Bdragon> | (for dallas, I know host120 is in dallas, so host120.dallas.linode.com) |
| 09:56 | <Bdragon> | Of course, doing tcp traceroutes or whatever is better |
| 09:57 | <Bdragon> | Also, it isn't necessarily constant, routes change all the time on the internet. |
| 09:57 | <tmus> | cool - i'll try that :) |
| 10:02 | <@linbot> | New news from wiki: Lish Documentation <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Lish_Documentation> || Lish Documentation <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Lish_Documentation> |
| 10:03 | <tmus> | dallas = 1149ms (tracert -T) - ping rtt 688ms |
| 10:03 | <tmus> | :-/ |
| 10:03 | <tmus> | not a linode problem, though |
| 10:07 | <tmus> | thanks a lot guys. |
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| 10:45 | <agentbleubleu> | Bdragon: Hi, All went 100% well with no swap used (for 24 hours) until about 1 hour ago then the sys went oom and swap went to full again. here is mysql slow log http://pastebin.linode.com/614 here :ps auxhfwwww during oom http://pastebin.linode.com/613 here top / by memory : http://pastebin.linode.com/612 here another ps auxhfwwww during oom http://pastebin.linode.com/611 here the first top/m that started the cascade h |
| 10:46 | <agentbleubleu> | I had to reboot to get back together. |
| 10:47 | <mwalling> | sweet... you got them during oom! |
| 10:47 | <agentbleubleu> | yes |
| 10:47 | <agentbleubleu> | took ages |
| 10:47 | <Bdragon> | hi |
| 10:47 | <agentbleubleu> | hi |
| 10:47 | <Bdragon> | Lots of apache processes waiting on stuff... |
| 10:48 | <agentbleubleu> | what was strange was it went loopy after being so good |
| 10:48 | <@mikegrb> | and spamd |
| 10:48 | <agentbleubleu> | 24 hours no swap used |
| 10:48 | <agentbleubleu> | then voom |
| 10:48 | <agentbleubleu> | boom |
| 10:48 | <Bdragon> | Ouch @ # |
| 10:48 | <Bdragon> | # Query_time: 1893 Lock_time: 5 Rows_sent: 3913 Rows_examined: 3913 |
| 10:48 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:48 | <Bdragon> | select * from playlist WHERE approved = '1'; |
| 10:49 | <Bdragon> | 1893 seconds.. |
| 10:49 | <mwalling> | you need that many apache children? |
| 10:49 | <agentbleubleu> | ? |
| 10:49 | <Bdragon> | I think he's using a dynamic one |
| 10:50 | <agentbleubleu> | it seems stable again now |
| 10:50 | <agentbleubleu> | Swap: 262136k total, 0k used, 262136k free, 260180k cached |
| 10:50 | <Bdragon> | It doesn't have that many children normally |
| 10:50 | <agentbleubleu> | top - 10:50:16 up 21 min, 3 users, load average: 1.07, 1.17, 1.00 |
| 10:50 | <Bdragon> | Well, SOMETHING is sitting on a lock. |
| 10:50 | <Bdragon> | btw, what's the "select * from playlist WHERE approved = '1';" used for? |
| 10:51 | <Bdragon> | Do you really need all 3913 rows? |
| 10:51 | <Bdragon> | Or could you get by with a LIMIT clause? |
| 10:51 | <agentbleubleu> | yes |
| 10:51 | <agentbleubleu> | it could |
| 10:51 | <Bdragon> | That would help with memory usage |
| 10:51 | <mwalling> | mikegrb: in honor of pie day, you should add that to lish |
| 10:52 | <@mikegrb> | add pie to lish? |
| 10:52 | <mwalling> | yes |
| 10:52 | <agentbleubleu> | i'll find that now |
| 10:52 | <mwalling> | its pie day |
| 10:52 | <@mikegrb> | it has cake |
| 10:53 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 10:53 | <mwalling> | yes, but its not cake day |
| 10:53 | <@mikegrb> | cake > pie |
| 10:53 | <mwalling> | 364 days out of the year |
| 10:54 | <mwalling> | on 3.14, pie > * |
| 10:54 | <@mikegrb> | the pie is a lie |
| 10:54 | <@mikegrb> | see, it even rhymes so it must be true |
| 10:54 | <rick111> | 3.14 apple pie - you tube = HEHE! |
| 10:54 | <Bdragon> | Hmm |
| 10:54 | <mwalling> | *tomorrow* the pie is a lie |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | # Query_time: 754 Lock_time: 75 Rows_sent: 6 Rows_examined: 19 |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | use a_place_in_the_sun; |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | SELECT * FROM pp_properties WHERE Valid ='Yes' && Suspend != 'Yes' && PropertyType = 'Property For Sale' && Country = 'france' ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 6; |
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| 10:55 | <Bdragon> | That's a long lock. |
| 10:57 | <Bdragon> | But yeah, just about everything is working on selecting approved stuff from the playlist table. |
| 10:57 | <mwalling> | why not 2 tables? |
| 10:57 | <mwalling> | stuff_notapproved and stuff_approved? |
| 10:58 | <Bdragon> | That shouldn't make that significant difference... |
| 10:58 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:58 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 10:58 | <Bdragon> | select * from playlist WHERE approved = 1 && user = 3272; |
| 10:58 | <Bdragon> | is still doing a table scan |
| 10:59 | <Bdragon> | Having 20 connections all trying to fetch 3903 rows seems to be causing problems though. |
| 10:59 | <agentbleubleu> | ok i put a limit on that "select * from playlist WHERE approved = '1';" to 100 |
| 11:00 | <Bdragon> | Were you actually using all the rows of the resultset? |
| 11:01 | <@caker> | You guys are still trying to solve the OOM by messing with indexes? |
| 11:01 | <agentbleubleu> | i will find this one |
| 11:01 | <agentbleubleu> | elect * from playlist WHERE approved = 1 && user = 3272; |
| 11:01 | <agentbleubleu> | made a huge difference yesterday |
| 11:01 | <Bdragon> | Nah, we're adding limit clauses now ;) |
| 11:01 | <agentbleubleu> | caker the swap was 0 for 1 day |
| 11:01 | <Bdragon> | Could you do a |
| 11:01 | <Bdragon> | use a_place_in_the_sun; |
| 11:01 | <Bdragon> | describe SELECT * FROM pp_properties WHERE Valid ='Yes' && Suspend != 'Yes' && PropertyType = 'Property For Sale' && Country = 'france' ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 6; |
| 11:01 | <@caker> | It's still going to happen unless you place proper limits on your apps |
| 11:01 | <agentbleubleu> | first time i seen that |
| 11:02 | <agentbleubleu> | sec |
| 11:02 | <agentbleubleu> | oh its gone oom again |
| 11:02 | <Bdragon> | show full processlist; |
| 11:03 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 11:03 | <agentbleubleu> | sec |
| 11:04 | <agentbleubleu> | its frozen it took like 5 minutes last time to excitue |
| 11:04 | <Bdragon> | yeah |
| 11:04 | <agentbleubleu> | in the mean time i will find this elect * from playlist WHERE approved = 1 && user = 3272; |
| 11:05 | <Bdragon> | Can you tell your users to avoid the urge to hit refresh repeatedly? ;) |
| 11:05 | <agentbleubleu> | i wish |
| 11:05 | <agentbleubleu> | general public |
| 11:05 | <agentbleubleu> | you know what there like |
| 11:07 | <mwalling> | squid? |
| 11:07 | <mwalling> | prolly overkill, nevermind |
| 11:07 | <agentbleubleu> | hehe |
| 11:07 | <mwalling> | make caches? |
| 11:09 | <agentbleubleu> | got it |
| 11:09 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/615 |
| 11:09 | <Bdragon> | What's the select * from playlist WHERE approved = '1'; used for anyway? |
| 11:09 | <agentbleubleu> | thats not it is it |
| 11:10 | <agentbleubleu> | just trying to find it |
| 11:10 | <Bdragon> | Ahh, that would be your database server getting oom killed |
| 11:10 | <agentbleubleu> | got it |
| 11:10 | <Bdragon> | Nah, just wondering why everything seems to be running that query in the first place |
| 11:12 | <agentbleubleu> | its a part that if all else fails pics one out the hat but i can change it to select id from playlist WHERE approved = 1 && user = 3272 |
| 11:13 | <agentbleubleu> | select id |
| 11:13 | <agentbleubleu> | and i can limit it |
| 11:13 | <Bdragon> | So you're only using id? |
| 11:13 | <agentbleubleu> | in that one ys |
| 11:13 | <Bdragon> | And what are you using these ids for? |
| 11:13 | <Bdragon> | Making hyperlinks? |
| 11:14 | <agentbleubleu> | just to compile a list of possible playlists to choose one |
| 11:14 | <agentbleubleu> | just a random guess if my others ail |
| 11:14 | <agentbleubleu> | fail |
| 11:14 | <agentbleubleu> | like first it tries very hard to get a good match |
| 11:14 | <Bdragon> | For user 3272 there are 3861 rows... |
| 11:15 | <agentbleubleu> | yes |
| 11:15 | <agentbleubleu> | that user is the machine |
| 11:15 | <agentbleubleu> | there are 2 users that are mechine |
| 11:15 | <agentbleubleu> | one for playlists names, the other for the genre |
| 11:15 | <Bdragon> | Also, why isn't approved a tinyint? |
| 11:15 | <Bdragon> | You only use 0 and 1, right? |
| 11:15 | <agentbleubleu> | yes |
| 11:16 | <agentbleubleu> | ok i change that |
| 11:16 | <agentbleubleu> | let m do this first i can limit it |
| 11:17 | <Bdragon> | And yeah, definately use id instead of * if you're only using id |
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| 11:19 | <Bdragon> | For that matter, user should probabaly be an int, as it looks like you're using ids there instead of names... |
| 11:19 | <agentbleubleu> | approved char(3) |
| 11:20 | <Bdragon> | could you do this? |
| 11:20 | <Bdragon> | SELECT * FROM playlist PROCEDURE ANALYSE(); |
| 11:20 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 11:20 | <agentbleubleu> | ): No database selected |
| 11:20 | <Bdragon> | use myplaylist; |
| 11:20 | <Bdragon> | try again |
| 11:21 | <agentbleubleu> | 10 rows in set (2.05 sec) |
| 11:22 | <agentbleubleu> | on the approved part currently that is a char(3) |
| 11:22 | <agentbleubleu> | but i can change that to an int |
| 11:22 | <Bdragon> | Could I see the results of the analyse? |
| 11:22 | <agentbleubleu> | tinyint |
| 11:23 | <agentbleubleu> | it looks like junk |
| 11:23 | <agentbleubleu> | i will paste it |
| 11:23 | <agentbleubleu> | its massive |
| 11:23 | <agentbleubleu> | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 11:23 | <Bdragon> | err |
| 11:23 | <agentbleubleu> | lots of that shit |
| 11:24 | <Bdragon> | Yeah, that's because it's wide |
| 11:24 | <scott> | well, dont paste it |
| 11:24 | <scott> | use a pastebin |
| 11:24 | <agentbleubleu> | yea thats what i ment sorry |
| 11:24 | <agentbleubleu> | u still want it |
| 11:24 | <Bdragon> | Hmm, try this |
| 11:24 | <Bdragon> | SELECT * FROM playlist PROCEDURE ANALYSE() \G |
| 11:25 | <agentbleubleu> | better |
| 11:25 | <Bdragon> | (\G instead of semicolon) |
| 11:25 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/616 |
| 11:26 | <agentbleubleu> | thats not all of it |
| 11:26 | <agentbleubleu> | must have cut it off |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | the arraydata one is long |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | Hmm |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | Field_name: myplaylist.playlist.user |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | Min_value: 3272 |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | # |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | Max_value: ~april_10~ |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | That sucks.. |
| 11:27 | <Bdragon> | What's up with ~april_10~ in that column? |
| 11:28 | <SNy> | April fools joke with added zero. |
| 11:28 | <SNy> | Early, too. |
| 11:28 | <SNy> | d; |
| 11:28 | <Bdragon> | SELECT DISTINCT user FROM playlist; |
| 11:28 | <agentbleubleu> | no idea why thats there |
| 11:29 | <Bdragon> | Are they pretty much all numbers or is there a bunch of textual ones as well? |
| 11:29 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/617 |
| 11:29 | <agentbleubleu> | textones too |
| 11:29 | <agentbleubleu> | 2 are mechine |
| 11:30 | <Bdragon> | OK |
| 11:30 | <agentbleubleu> | one for homemade and band name, and the other home made and the genre |
| 11:30 | <agentbleubleu> | all others are users |
| 11:31 | <Bdragon> | SELECT DISTINCT approved FROM playlist; |
| 11:31 | <Bdragon> | Should just be 0 and 1, right? |
| 11:31 | <agentbleubleu> | yes |
| 11:32 | <agentbleubleu> | ive changed that to a tinyint |
| 11:32 | <Bdragon> | OK |
| 11:32 | <agentbleubleu> | it was varchild3 |
| 11:32 | <Bdragon> | SHOW TABLE STATUS LIKE 'playlist' \G |
| 11:33 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/618 |
| 11:33 | <@caker> | you guy mind taking this off channel? |
| 11:33 | <Bdragon> | Point |
| 11:44 | <spyroboy> | caker, I've noticed that off topic discussion arise often in this channel. Have you thought of using a #linode-chitchat channel? |
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| 12:38 | <iggy> | caker: ever looked at lguest? |
| 12:38 | <@caker> | iggy: I've followed along with it on the many mailing lists, but never messed with it |
| 12:39 | <iggy> | looks like it might run linux a bit better than kvm/xen/etc |
| 12:39 | <iggy> | I haven't tried it either though |
| 12:40 | <@caker> | I forget why, but I remember thinking it wasn't a fit |
| 12:40 | <iggy> | for you? or in general? |
| 12:40 | <@caker> | for Linode |
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| 12:51 | <m0unds> | is it typical for Xenodes to slowly increase in memory usage? |
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| 12:52 | <m0unds> | i noticed with UML with all of my services and crap, it'd stop at a certain point, even under load, but it seems like with Xen, it keeps going til there's only 50MB or so free, and then stops. kinda like a regular linux box's memory usage. |
| 12:52 | <Bdragon> | Happy pi day |
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| 12:52 | <mwalling> | Bdragon: mikegrb wont add pie to lish |
| 12:52 | <mwalling> | :'( |
| 12:53 | <m0unds> | and i'm dumb and didn't pay attention to which channel i was putting that in. whoops. |
| 12:54 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 12:54 | <tpope> | why add pie when you can add cake |
| 12:54 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 12:54 | <m0unds> | pie > cake |
| 12:54 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 12:54 | <m0unds> | unless cake = chocolate chip oatmeal cake |
| 12:54 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 12:54 | <m0unds> | then cake > most pie |
| 12:57 | <jkwood> | I is insulted. Pi day is the closest holiday to my birthday, and there's no pie in lish =( |
| 13:01 | <@mikegrb> | lots of cake though |
| 13:02 | <@mikegrb> | it will even tell you how to bake one! |
| 13:02 | <mwalling> | but not how to bake a pie |
| 13:02 | <@mikegrb> | https://www.linode.com/members/utilities/privateip.cfm |
| 13:03 | <tpope> | I is imaginary so it doesn't matter if he's insulted |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | no, i is imaginary, I is real |
| 13:04 | <jkwood> | Hey, I'm all for that. mikegrb, you wouldn't charge an imaginary person for their linode, would you? |
| 13:05 | <@tasaro> | imaginary people get imaginary linodes |
| 13:05 | <@tasaro> | would you like us to configure a migration to an imaginary host? |
| 13:06 | <mwalling> | can i be on hostsqrt(-1) ? |
| 13:07 | <jkwood> | Only if it's a linode 1440 =D |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | ... |
| 13:09 | <mwalling> | jkwood: whats the square root of -1? |
| 13:09 | <@caker> | !calc square root of -1 |
| 13:09 | <@linbot> | caker: square root(-1) = i |
| 13:09 | <jkwood> | i! Woot! |
| 13:09 | <jkwood> | I am! |
| 13:10 | <mwalling> | ... so what would host(sqrt(-1)) be? |
| 13:10 | <jkwood> | input/output error |
| 13:11 | <jkwood> | rebooting... |
| 13:11 | <jkwood> | pie! |
| 13:11 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 13:11 | <mwalling> | lol |
| 13:14 | <atourino> | hmmm |
| 13:14 | <atourino> | this channel is suffering from geek overload |
| 13:14 | <atourino> | :P |
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| 13:14 | <jkwood> | It's irc. Whaddaya expect? |
| 13:14 | <atourino> | too true |
| 13:16 | <LDW> | I just setup my frist node today. Im running PHP and MySQL. I'm using Mambo and SMF Forums to serve content about an EVE Online corporation. However the site is really slow. I have 720 Megs of Ram and the second bandwidth package. Is there anything I can do to speed up the apache server or do I need to purchase some aditional option? |
| 13:17 | <@caker> | LDW: My guess is it's a configuration/optimization problem |
| 13:18 | <LDW> | so if I look at apache configuration and optimizaion docs I should be starting in the right direction? |
| 13:18 | <@caker> | it depends... I'd identify where the bottleneck first |
| 13:19 | <LDW> | does linode provide profiling tools? |
| 13:19 | <@caker> | first, I'd see if the application stack is using too much memory / and if the node is swapping |
| 13:19 | <LDW> | nope not swaping yet |
| 13:19 | <@caker> | ok, then next I'd run top to see if things are spinning eating CPU while I make website requests |
| 13:20 | <@caker> | another thing to test is if, while making web requests, the DB is making large table scans and grinding the disks (vmstat 1, bi/bo) |
| 13:20 | <@caker> | if it's the DB, time to tweak indexs |
| 13:21 | <Bdragon> | Also you should probabaly be running a PHP opcode cache if you aren't already.. |
| 13:21 | <LDW> | looks like mysqld_safe is using about 20% of the cpu constantly |
| 13:23 | <LDW> | I havne't done any indexing as the db tables were created by the php apps I'm using, I'll have to see what is going on there |
| 13:24 | <LDW> | which opcode do ou suggest APC or XCache? |
| 13:25 | <Bdragon> | SHOW FULL PROCESSLIST; during slowness, as well as enabling the slow query log are useful for seeing why mysql is having to work so hard.. |
| 13:25 | <LDW> | Bdragon, can I configure that from phpmyadmin? |
| 13:25 | <Bdragon> | Personally I use eaccelerator, but the general answer is "Try one and if it works for you, use it, otherwise, try another one." |
| 13:25 | <LDW> | k |
| 13:26 | <Bdragon> | Turning on the slow query log involves restarting the daemon, so no. You can do SHOW FULL PROCESSLIST; though |
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| 13:36 | <m0unds> | mmmm...eve |
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| 13:37 | <m0unds> | i haven't been spending enough time in EVE since trinity was released |
| 13:38 | <m0unds> | i need to play more..and i'll finally have time to |
| 13:39 | <LDW> | I'm having fun with it, just started 2 months ago. I'm spending more time on the corp site than playing but I like that too |
| 13:43 | <m0unds> | nice. which corp? |
| 13:43 | <LDW> | Canadian Assault Network |
| 13:44 | <m0unds> | ah, right on- eve university here |
| 13:44 | <LDW> | Is that a player corp? |
| 13:44 | <m0unds> | yup, one of the biggest |
| 13:44 | * | Bdragon is Todd Overbeck in eve, but does not currently play... |
| 13:44 | <m0unds> | teaching corp based out of korsiki in caldari space |
| 13:44 | <m0unds> | 1600 members |
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| 13:47 | <LDW> | wow, that is huge, we just started this corp about 2 months ago. We have about 30 members |
| 13:48 | <m0unds> | actually, looks like they purged some people-- 1450 members now |
| 13:48 | <m0unds> | right on |
| 13:50 | <LDW> | we'll I just installed eaccelerator and after hitting my main smf page a few times things seem better. Now to look at the db |
| 13:50 | <LDW> | thanks for all the help everyone |
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| 13:53 | <thatch> | hi all. Are the disk images for the linode distro wizard available for download anywhere? |
| 13:54 | <anderiv> | thatch: I don't believe so - you could surely deploy one of them, though, and use finnix to download. |
| 13:55 | <thatch> | anderiv: oh, I've already tried that. kinda funny story. |
| 13:56 | <thatch> | it gives: helper_main(thatch, /vbin/fs/finnix-87.0.iso, 1, , 1): mount failed: File exists |
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| 13:56 | <thatch> | I just thought I'd check to see if they were already up somewhere before I filed a ticket about the other issues I uncovered trying to grab it :) |
| 13:57 | <@caker> | what other issues? |
| 13:57 | <anderiv> | thatch: what issues did you have? I've used this method several times with no problems whatsoever. |
| 13:58 | <thatch> | my main profile is Debian (started out 3.1, current on updates tho) running a 2.4 kernel |
| 13:58 | <thatch> | my objective is to get a copy of the Arch image to my home, so I created one and set it has ubdd on my Debian (which boots fine) |
| 13:59 | <thatch> | it hangs after mounting my root fs readonly. Removing the Arch image and it works fine. |
| 13:59 | <anderiv> | do you have ubdd in your fstab? |
| 14:00 | <thatch> | I don't think so, but I'll check it to make sure. |
| 14:00 | <@tasaro> | try switching to latest 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:00 | <anderiv> | well - it shouldn't be there, and doesn't need to be there if all you're trying to do is d/l the image. |
| 14:00 | <thatch> | anderiv: I totally agree |
| 14:01 | <thatch> | my issue with Finnix is that it never gets to the point of booting (tried the finnix and latest-2.6 kernel, it never gets to that point) |
| 14:01 | <thatch> | as I pasted above, I get this listed under "Host Message" in the dashboard: helper_main(thatch, /vbin/fs/finnix-87.0.iso, 1, , 1): mount failed: File exists |
| 14:01 | <anderiv> | thatch: did you assign the finnix disk image? |
| 14:02 | <thatch> | ubda -> Recovery - Finnix (iso) |
| 14:02 | <thatch> | root device set to ubda (ro) |
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| 14:03 | <thatch> | got the same messages on three consecutive attempts so I gave up on the finnix front |
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| 14:03 | <@linbot> | New news from blog: Private Back-End Network Support <http://blog.linode.com/index.php/2008/03/14/private-back-end-network-support/> |
| 14:05 | <anderiv> | ooh fun. |
| 14:05 | <anderiv> | bummer I only have 1 linode. :-( |
| 14:06 | <@caker> | thatch: did you set the finnix kernel, the iso, and the initrd? |
| 14:06 | <@caker> | thatch: out of curiosity, how much memory on your Linode? |
| 14:06 | <@tasaro> | thatch: which config profile are you trying to work with? |
| 14:08 | <thatch> | caker: I did not set the initrd, I hadn't checked that box and the error I saw hadn't clued me in. |
| 14:08 | <thatch> | it's on a 540M |
| 14:08 | <@tasaro> | thatch: can I tweak the one labeled 'Copy Arch' ? |
| 14:09 | <thatch> | sure, that'd be great |
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| 14:11 | <thatch> | tasaro: are you able to see the boot messages (hanging after mounted root ro, same as when I boot Debian with Arch as ubdd) |
| 14:14 | <Peng> | Wait... Linode uses boring numeric hostnames for servers? |
| 14:14 | <JasonF> | linodes hostnames are not even nearly as boring as mine at work |
| 14:14 | <JasonF> | [abc][abc]-[func]### |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | the first section is 3 digit location code |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | 2nd section is the "function" of the server |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | and then a 3 digit number |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | so, for example, ral-web010 |
| 14:15 | <anderiv> | JasonF: that's almost exactly what we do as well... |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | the only problem with us |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | is that we still have legacy domains |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | so the location is indicated in two places |
| 14:15 | <thatch> | Peng: there's a reverse dns tab that lets you customize it I believe. Never tried it though. |
| 14:15 | <JasonF> | but I'm going to work to phase those out |
| 14:16 | <@tasaro> | thatch: ok, there is a bug with finnix we need to fix -- which is your debain bootstrap profile? |
| 14:16 | <Peng> | thatch: The hostXX thing? |
| 14:16 | <@caker> | ok, 2.4 kernels are going away. Too many people hit the "mounting ext3 filesystem readonly" hang |
| 14:16 | <JasonF> | does anyone use 2.4 kernels anymore? |
| 14:16 | <@caker> | some people still have them set from back in the day |
| 14:16 | <@caker> | and reboot only to find their node hanging |
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| 14:17 | <mwalling> | JasonF: um, our hostnames are [state][city][type (f=file,a=application,p=print)][number][owning business] so our file server for example is NYSCHF11PSGE |
| 14:17 | <mwalling> | isnt *that* fun to remember |
| 14:17 | <anderiv> | sadly, my production webserver at work is still on 2.4. **** hangs head in shame. |
| 14:17 | <thatch> | tasaro: I removed the testing ones, only one Debian one remains |
| 14:17 | <@tasaro> | ok, i'll make a new one |
| 14:23 | <@tasaro> | thatch: are you good to go now? |
| 14:25 | <thatch> | yep, it works! |
| 14:25 | <thatch> | thanks |
| 14:26 | <@tasaro> | np |
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| 14:26 | <Peng> | OTOH, DreamHost avoided that recent Linux vulnerability by still being on 2.4... |
| 14:27 | <Schroeder> | IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN! |
| 14:27 | <Bdragon> | ? |
| 14:29 | <jkwood> | Erm... that's a countup. |
| 14:29 | <m0unds> | it's so nice-- today's my last day at my current job |
| 14:29 | * | m0unds is so happy |
| 14:30 | <m0unds> | goodbye stupid mortgage industry IT crap |
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| 14:30 | <JasonF> | Schroeder: DADADA DAAAAAAAA; DADA DA-DA-DA |
| 14:30 | * | Schroeder is working on arranging that song for his band kids |
| 14:31 | <jkwood> | Good pick. |
| 14:31 | <m0unds> | http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=XkMWdI2IKiw |
| 14:32 | <m0unds> | ^^^ best cover of final countdown EVER |
| 14:32 | <Schroeder> | anyone ever watch Arrested Development? |
| 14:33 | <jkwood> | Is that what I think it is? |
| 14:33 | <webPragmatist> | yea |
| 14:33 | <jkwood> | Nope, that's why they canceled it... err... wait... |
| 14:33 | <webPragmatist> | oh er thought you were talking about the video |
| 14:33 | <Schroeder> | I was one of maybe seven people who watched that show regularly |
| 14:36 | <jkwood> | Ah... that IS what I think it is... downloaded. |
| 14:40 | <webPragmatist> | m0unds: sounds like napoleon dynamite |
| 14:41 | <tpope> | I think the short answer to why it works in irb is that irb is using eval too |
| 14:42 | <m0unds> | yeah, it's awful |
| 14:42 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 14:42 | <m0unds> | lol |
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| 14:50 | <Schroeder> | so |
| 14:50 | <Schroeder> | how are everyone's steak and a blowjob day celebrations going? |
| 14:50 | <@mikegrb> | please watch your language |
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| 14:50 | <Schroeder> | ... |
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| 14:53 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Linode Blog - http://blog.linode.com/ in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3155> |
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| 14:59 | <JDLSpeedy> | mikegrb: nice ;) |
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| 15:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | mwalling: hey hey |
| 15:00 | <mwalling> | yo |
| 15:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | mwalling: you where working on the Private IP thingy? |
| 15:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | heh |
| 15:00 | <mwalling> | JDLSpeedy: mikegrb let me test it |
| 15:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | well, ginny-pig |
| 15:00 | <mwalling> | i didn't do any real work |
| 15:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | ahhh |
| 15:01 | <@mikegrb> | sure you did |
| 15:02 | <@mikegrb> | you fixerated your iptables log and typed ping a few times <3 |
| 15:02 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 15:02 | <JDLSpeedy> | LOL |
| 15:02 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 15:02 | <mwalling> | fine |
| 15:02 | <mwalling> | i did *some* work |
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| 15:48 | <mwalling> | mikegrb: lolz is just trigger.pl isnt it |
| 15:51 | <m0unds> | thinking of setting one up for slackware? |
| 15:51 | <m0unds> | haha |
| 15:51 | <mwalling> | heh |
| 15:51 | <m0unds> | mmmm...slackware |
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| 15:53 | <spyroboy> | mmmm...slackware |
| 15:55 | <m0unds> | haha |
| 15:56 | <mwalling> | m0unds: nah, i need to figure out the rate limit first |
| 15:56 | <m0unds> | mmmm...rate limit |
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| 16:01 | <mwalling> | ... http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14408#14408 ... isnt that what RSS is for? |
| 16:01 | <mwalling> | i've got wiki changelogs, blogs, slackware tree updates, all sorts of stuff going into my rss reader |
| 16:01 | <mwalling> | works great |
| 16:01 | <anderiv> | mwalling: agreed |
| 16:02 | <anderiv> | Google Reader ++ |
| 16:02 | <spyroboy> | mwalling, I like ho he layed that down. |
| 16:02 | <spyroboy> | "THIS IS SERIOUSLY A BAD IDEA" |
| 16:02 | * | anderiv thought it was a good idea :-) |
| 16:02 | <mwalling> | anderiv: planet in a HTTP_AUTH protected dir :) |
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| 16:03 | <mwalling> | anderiv: agreed... as long as they dont do the <!-- more --> stuff... with WP that stops the feed there |
| 16:03 | <anderiv> | right |
| 16:04 | * | mwalling hopes that hint was heard |
| 16:04 | <mwalling> | anderiv: google reader sucks over space tubes BTW |
| 16:04 | <anderiv> | space tubes? |
| 16:04 | <m0unds> | not Real Interbutts(tm) though |
| 16:05 | <Bdragon> | Space tubes == satellite connection |
| 16:05 | <anderiv> | heh |
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| 16:05 | <anderiv> | I don't doubt that. |
| 16:05 | <mwalling> | anderiv: what Bdragon is stuck with |
| 16:05 | <m0unds> | ummer |
| 16:05 | <m0unds> | bummer, too |
| 16:05 | <Bdragon> | Ping statistics for 67.18.186.61: |
| 16:05 | <Bdragon> | Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0% loss), |
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