| --- | Log | opened Wed Feb 20 00:00:49 2008 |
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| 00:45 | <whgilmore> | Noob here, about 15 minutes ago I signed up for a Linode 360. I almost immediately received the invoice and payment receipt in my e-mail; however I cannot log on to my account with what I setup as my ID and password. When I enter my e-mail address to try to confirm my account it also fails saying that the e-mail address is not associated with an account. Are there currently problems with the provisioning system? |
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| 00:47 | <bd_> | whgilmore: caker/tasaro/mikegrb would be able to help |
| 00:48 | <bd_> | did you try using the forgot my password thing? |
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| 00:49 | <whgilmore> | its working now. It just took about 16 minutes to process. |
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| 00:53 | <bronson> | Hm, I asked for a Xen migration earlier today, still no mail... |
| 00:53 | <bronson> | Does it take 24 hours to move to Xen? |
| 00:54 | <chesty> | it's the luck of the draw, you weren't very lucky |
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| 01:41 | <wabz> | hi, I'm unable to connect to the lish console, I get; [wabz@host82 lish] There is no screen to be attached matching wabz. |
| 01:41 | <wabz> | Your Linode isn't running, or another console session is already active. |
| 01:41 | <wabz> | am I doing something wrong, or...? |
| 01:49 | <encode> | is your linode running? |
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| 01:50 | <wabz> | yup |
| 01:51 | <encode> | dont know - i'd probably raise a ticket |
| 01:51 | <wabz> | yeah I think it's a bit screwed from that atlanta power outage |
| 01:52 | <wabz> | the last job was JobID: 437851 - Lassie initiated boot Job Entered: 2008-01-09 07:48:34 Status: Failed Host Message: Linode already running |
| 01:53 | <wabz> | oh well |
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| 05:06 | <jayjayem> | Is, err, this the place to ask a question? |
| 05:06 | <Karnaugh> | no |
| 05:07 | <jayjayem> | Any suggestions where to go, or just resort to forums or support tickets? |
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| 05:14 | <kernst> | I think if it's related to something *on* your node, this and/or the forums are the place to ask. |
| 05:15 | <kernst> | If it's something related to the service that you pay for, use the support ticket thingy. |
| 05:26 | <jayjayem> | Heh, guess I'm not sure, |
| 05:26 | <jayjayem> | Trying to get this 2nd IP address up. |
| 05:44 | <Karnaugh> | there are instructions for that on the side |
| 05:44 | <Karnaugh> | *site |
| 05:47 | <jayjayem> | I just found the wiki page, that worked |
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| 06:47 | <jackal> | hello..... |
| 06:47 | <jackal> | caker! |
| 06:48 | <jackal> | anybody! |
| 06:48 | <JDLSpeedy> | hi |
| 06:49 | <jackal> | hi JD. |
| 06:49 | <jackal> | I am having dictionary attacks on my linode! |
| 06:49 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 06:49 | <JDLSpeedy> | yea, lol |
| 06:50 | <jackal> | haha. |
| 06:50 | <jackal> | but any prevention. |
| 06:50 | <JDLSpeedy> | i have iptable rules that would drop them after 4 connections and block them for i think 5 minutes |
| 06:50 | <jackal> | I might use firehol, any comments???.. |
| 06:51 | <jackal> | are u directly using iptables from command line?? |
| 06:52 | <JDLSpeedy> | i have my own init script that runs via startup |
| 06:52 | <JDLSpeedy> | but you can run from command line |
| 06:53 | <jackal> | ok. any sample that I might use?? |
| 06:55 | <jackal> | I am denying everything in hosts.allow but only enabling my remote ip for ssh... is it good! |
| 06:55 | <jackal> | thanx space. ya. |
| 06:57 | <jackal> | ok. |
| 07:00 | <jackal> | ok |
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| 08:04 | <rick111> | OPIE eh |
| 08:05 | <rick111> | im going to look into this now |
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| 08:05 | <rick111> | "OPIE is mature and not actively maintained at present." |
| 08:05 | <rick111> | wikipedia ! |
| 08:07 | <rick111> | i don't like :/ |
| 08:14 | <rick111> | thanks for the information |
| 08:14 | <rick111> | but it does not seem maintained? |
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| 08:23 | <rick111> | ahhh |
| 08:23 | <rick111> | thanks for that ;D |
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| 08:42 | <rick111> | i've stopped the ssh service, ill enable it when i need to connect in |
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| 08:50 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Restoring offsite replica in Linux Tips, Tricks, Tutorials <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=875> |
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| 09:00 | <talion> | hi guys, i would like to learn the example ip address of 3 different location to test the speed. Could anybody provide me this information pls ? i want to ping and trace route those ip addresses or hosts. thanks |
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| 09:04 | <@caker> | talion: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 |
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| 09:14 | <talion> | Thank you Caker! i am planing to move to linode need some testing =) |
| 09:29 | <JDLSpeedy> | how you say Xen? Zen? |
| 09:32 | <JDLSpeedy> | ok, thx |
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| 10:04 | <talion> | is there any active The Promotion Code available atm ? |
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| 10:10 | <agentbleubleu> | I have a setting in phpmyadmin that i need to change, $cfg['AllowAnywhereRecoding'] = TRUE; does anyone have any idea what file that setting would be in |
| 10:11 | <guinea-pig> | i'd check the config file |
| 10:11 | <guinea-pig> | wild guess |
| 10:11 | <agentbleubleu> | i did nothing |
| 10:11 | <agentbleubleu> | pico /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf |
| 10:11 | <agentbleubleu> | this one |
| 10:11 | <agentbleubleu> | pico /etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php |
| 10:11 | <agentbleubleu> | and that |
| 10:12 | <guinea-pig> | i don't know the finer details of phpmyadmin |
| 10:12 | <guinea-pig> | or even the lesser details |
| 10:12 | <guinea-pig> | but maybe the setting defaults to true unless you set it otherwise? |
| 10:13 | <agentbleubleu> | it sets to false |
| 10:13 | <agentbleubleu> | i have to chage it to true |
| 10:14 | <agentbleubleu> | it gives you options for exporting different encoding options on mysql |
| 10:14 | <agentbleubleu> | like utf16 etc |
| 10:14 | <guinea-pig> | still, my suggestion applies, i'd think |
| 10:14 | <guinea-pig> | maybe the setting defaults to FALSE unless you set it otherwise? |
| 10:15 | <guinea-pig> | anyhoo. gotta run off to work |
| 10:15 | <agentbleubleu> | yes i need to change it |
| 10:15 | <agentbleubleu> | ok thanks |
| 10:16 | <guinea-pig> | if you want to know whether the setting should go in apache.conf or config.inc.php, i think you need to understand the language "$cfg['AllowAnywhereRecoding'] = TRUE" is written in |
| 10:17 | <guinea-pig> | it's very obviously not apache-conffile, and it is very obviously php. i think the question of which file it *might* go in is also obvious |
| 10:17 | <agentbleubleu> | there are similar files in the phpmyadmin config |
| 10:17 | <agentbleubleu> | that have"$cfg[ |
| 10:18 | <mwalling> | *headdesk* |
| 10:18 | <agentbleubleu> | /$cfg['Servers'][$i]['host'] = 'localhost'; // MySQL hostname or IP address |
| 10:18 | <agentbleubleu> | like this for example |
| 10:18 | <guinea-pig> | if these supposed obvious things are not obvious, then perhaps you need to educate yourself |
| 10:18 | <guinea-pig> | before you get r00ted :P |
| 10:19 | <guinea-pig> | i leave noe |
| 10:19 | <agentbleubleu> | ok thanks |
| 10:21 | <guinea-pig> | also, google could have answered your question in much less time than i spent on it |
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| 10:23 | <agentbleubleu> | that worked |
| 10:23 | <agentbleubleu> | sorry for being a retard it is just all still new to me |
| 10:23 | <agentbleubleu> | ii dare not touch things half the time with fear |
| 10:26 | <@caker> | do google sitelinks show when you google for "linode"? (they're the links under the first hit like: Overview, Community, Demo, etc) |
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| 10:27 | <mwalling> | no |
| 10:27 | <agentbleubleu> | no |
| 10:28 | <@caker> | weird .. something turned them on for me in ff |
| 10:28 | <Ciaran> | Hello. I'm starting to get packet loss on my Linode. Looks like it's from the same place as before. |
| 10:28 | <@caker> | safari doesn't show them, others don't see them |
| 10:28 | <agentbleubleu> | it maybe a google update |
| 10:28 | * | Ciaran has a page of mtr output he can give if needed. |
| 10:28 | <Ciaran> | Anybody else experiencing problems? |
| 10:28 | <agentbleubleu> | different data centers |
| 10:29 | <@caker> | Ciaran: please show me mtr |
| 10:29 | <mwalling> | http://files.markwalling.org/linodegoogle.png |
| 10:29 | <Ciaran> | caker: http://ciaran.no-ip.com/~ciaran/linode-mtr.txt |
| 10:30 | <@caker> | Ciaran: so problem between above.net and tp |
| 10:30 | <Ciaran> | *nods* Right. |
| 10:30 | <@caker> | how long has it been going on? |
| 10:30 | <Ciaran> | Which is the same place as it was before. Just wanted to let people know. :) |
| 10:30 | <Ciaran> | Only started just now, I believe. |
| 10:31 | <Ciaran> | About a minute or so before I joined. |
| 10:31 | <@caker> | ok, give it a few minutes, and ping me if it doesn't go away |
| 10:31 | <Ciaran> | Okies. |
| 10:33 | <guinea-pig> | spandex jumpsuits! |
| 10:33 | <guinea-pig> | http://obsoleteskills.com/Skills/ZippingYourPants |
| 10:34 | <Bdragon> | hahaha @ mwalling's screenshot... |
| 10:34 | <mwalling> | wha? |
| 10:34 | <mwalling> | what did i do this time? |
| 10:35 | <Bdragon> | Oh, the third result of http://files.markwalling.org/linodegoogle.png |
| 10:35 | <mwalling> | oh |
| 10:35 | <@mikegrb> | mwalling is an openid user |
| 10:36 | * | mikegrb updates mwalling's dossier |
| 10:36 | <mwalling> | yes i am :) |
| 10:36 | <@mikegrb> | mwalling earned some brownie points back |
| 10:36 | <@mikegrb> | <3 |
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| 10:36 | * | mikegrb is currently using pip for hardware auth |
| 10:36 | <mwalling> | oh? |
| 10:36 | <@mikegrb> | is that not why you are using pip? |
| 10:37 | <@mikegrb> | know those verisign keyfobs from paypal? they work with pip too |
| 10:37 | <mwalling> | oh... forgot what pip was |
| 10:37 | <mwalling> | yeah |
| 10:37 | <@mikegrb> | you have a pip button on your screen! |
| 10:37 | <mwalling> | i'm using my fob with pip |
| 10:37 | * | mikegrb too! |
| 10:37 | <mwalling> | i though pip was the fob for a second |
| 10:37 | <@mikegrb> | k |
| 10:37 | * | mwalling starts coffee maker |
| 10:37 | * | mikegrb updates mwalling's dossier some more |
| 10:38 | <mwalling> | i was going to say... you got an API to the fob? i'm jellous |
| 10:39 | <Ciaran> | caker: Still happening for me, but nobody else is saying anything, so I guess it isn't anything for you to worry about? But the connections seems to go out of my ISP's domain fine, so... |
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| 10:43 | <talion> | is there any limit on reinstalling OS ? |
| 10:44 | <Ciaran> | talion: Nope, you can reinstall as much as you like on Linode. |
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| 10:46 | <talion> | Ciaran: Thank you :) i am leaving my current vps host for this reason, they says limitless on their advirtisement on their website but they limit 2 times per day in control panel :( |
| 10:46 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Dallas: Network issue in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3111> |
| 10:52 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Packet loss to dallas in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3122> || Suppoort for netlink event system in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3121> |
| 10:52 | <JDLSpeedy> | talion: and if linode doesn't have your distro, and u know how to install a different distro, more power to you |
| 10:55 | <Ciaran> | caker: Still happening for me, if you're still wanting notices about it. |
| 10:55 | <Ciaran> | (the packet loss, that is) |
| 10:55 | <@caker> | I'll post a ticket to TP, but my feeling is it's upstream of them (above.net) |
| 10:56 | <Ciaran> | Yeah, it looks like it. |
| 11:03 | <Ciaran> | ...okay, maybe I should try reposting the mtr I just did on the forum to be one to a Linode IP address, so it's a little more relevant. >_< (the IP I did it to was to a separate dedicated server in the same datacenter, though I'm having the same problems with it. Even so, I should really have posted the Linode IP MTR. ;p) |
| 11:04 | <@caker> | Ciaran: I used your link when I opened a ticket with TP, so either way |
| 11:04 | <Ciaran> | Cool. |
| 11:04 | <@caker> | Ciaran: also, mtr --report target.com better output for posting |
| 11:04 | <Ciaran> | The link was to the Linode address. |
| 11:04 | <Ciaran> | *looks* |
| 11:05 | <purrdeta> | This is a rather random question... but is there any chance of FreeBSD sometime in the future (doesnt have to be anytime soon :P) |
| 11:05 | <@caker> | and I think -n makes it not resolve names (which get cut off in --report mode) |
| 11:05 | <@caker> | purrdeta: not officially |
| 11:05 | <purrdeta> | thats cool :) |
| 11:06 | <Ciaran> | caker: Oh, cool, thanks. :) |
| 11:06 | <JDLSpeedy> | can you even run openbsd in a vm like linux? |
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| 11:06 | <Ciaran> | Not with UML ;) |
| 11:06 | <JDLSpeedy> | ya, that wouldn't work at ALL ;) |
| 11:07 | <Ciaran> | But yeah, generally speaking, any OS can run in a VM. |
| 11:07 | <Ciaran> | So there wouldn't be a problem in general for OpenBSD running in a VM. |
| 11:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | well i don't mean vm like as vmware |
| 11:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | or anything like that |
| 11:08 | <Ciaran> | What do you mean, then? |
| 11:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | like linux uses uml, but does openbsd has its own executable kernel that would run in linux |
| 11:09 | <Ciaran> | Oh, I see. |
| 11:09 | <Ciaran> | Not sure about specifics, but in general I expect you might be able to use QEMU in user mode. *looks* |
| 11:10 | <talion> | May i run two different distro in my linode ? at the same time ? :D |
| 11:10 | <@caker> | talion: not at the same time, but you can boot between distros |
| 11:10 | <@caker> | and even share disk images between them, etc |
| 11:11 | <talion> | omg how could i find you that late !!! |
| 11:11 | <talion> | ;) |
| 11:11 | <purrdeta> | elwl there is "jails" in freebsd which is kind of like a vm... |
| 11:12 | * | Ciaran used to have a FreeBSD jail before moving to Linode. |
| 11:13 | <@tasaro> | talion: or you can "Add a Linode" from the dashboard if you need to run two instances |
| 11:13 | <talion> | ok, done! i am officially linode member, nice to be with you guys, i feel this is the place that im looking for :) |
| 11:13 | <Ciaran> | Hee! Welcome. :) |
| 11:13 | <rick111> | linode is for the big boys, welcome |
| 11:13 | <Ciaran> | Linode really is an awesome place. |
| 11:14 | <Bdragon> | Yep |
| 11:14 | <greco> | good stuff |
| 11:14 | <rick111> | JDLSpeedy you played fortress 4eva yet? |
| 11:15 | <JDLSpeedy> | heh, no |
| 11:15 | <rick111> | hehe |
| 11:15 | <JDLSpeedy> | just fortress 2 |
| 11:15 | <Ciaran> | caker: Looks like the packet loss has cleared up. |
| 11:15 | <rick111> | :/ |
| 11:15 | <Ciaran> | Not sure when it happened though, only just started monitoring again. |
| 11:19 | <rick111> | caker you put together the linode control panel, members area page where you manage your linodes? like write it, or get a 3rd party in? |
| 11:20 | <talion> | tasaro: Thanks tasaro i ll try =) |
| 11:20 | <@caker> | rick111: I did it |
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| 11:23 | <rick111> | wowsers |
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| 11:39 | <SystemFAILURE> | Hi to all :) |
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| 11:43 | <@caker> | rick111: my official Linode title is Professional Assassin |
| 11:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | caker: i'm trying to ask u something in pvt |
| 11:43 | <SystemFAILURE> | :o |
| 11:44 | <rick111> | hehe |
| 11:44 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 11:44 | <nimaj> | cake: you're too much like the linode Santa Claus to be called Professional Assassin....unless you're a bi-pilor assassining santa |
| 11:45 | * | Bdragon sings Weird Al's "The night Santa went crazy" |
| 11:45 | <Bdragon> | Sharp dress and sharper knives, eh? |
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| 12:09 | * | SystemFAILURE is away: Away - ~19 |
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| 12:20 | <agentbleubleu> | has the server been ifffy, i had p[roblems all day, thought it was me |
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| 12:45 | <JDLSpeedy> | agentbleubleu: dallas was having issues with packet loss, don't know if they solved the issue |
| 12:46 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:46 | <agentbleubleu> | thanks |
| 12:46 | <agentbleubleu> | i thinkmy problems are crashes due to memory |
| 12:46 | <JDLSpeedy> | oo, wow, ugh |
| 12:46 | <JDLSpeedy> | :-/ |
| 12:47 | <agentbleubleu> | i would like to increase my virtual memory |
| 12:47 | <agentbleubleu> | its at 256 now |
| 12:48 | <agentbleubleu> | but in the wizard it wont let me make it highrt |
| 12:48 | <agentbleubleu> | higher |
| 12:48 | <agentbleubleu> | it says max 256 |
| 12:48 | <agentbleubleu> | is there anything i can do |
| 12:48 | <JDLSpeedy> | i thought 360 was the minium |
| 12:48 | <bd_> | you mean swap? |
| 12:48 | <agentbleubleu> | yea |
| 12:48 | <bd_> | you'll need to reduce your filesystem size to make room |
| 12:49 | <bd_> | note that making more swap is usually a bad idea, you'll just end up disk thrashing |
| 12:49 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:49 | <agentbleubleu> | i just upgraded to the pro version of virtualmin |
| 12:49 | <JDLSpeedy> | I had mine 300MB and it was bad |
| 12:49 | -!- | pfein_ is now known as pfein-away |
| 12:49 | <JDLSpeedy> | 600* |
| 12:49 | <agentbleubleu> | and since doing so the system has crashed 3 times |
| 12:50 | <bd_> | It's better to crash hard than to be disk thrashing and not making any forward progress |
| 12:50 | <agentbleubleu> | it looks like it is peeking on virtual memory |
| 12:50 | <bd_> | agentbleubleu: what's using all that RAM? |
| 12:50 | <bd_> | that's the problem you really need to solve |
| 12:50 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:50 | <iggy> | if you are using that much swap, you need to upgrade to a higher linode plan |
| 12:50 | <iggy> | or yeah |
| 12:50 | <iggy> | get all the crap running on your linode to stop using so much ram |
| 12:50 | <agentbleubleu> | its strange as the prefios free version hardly used any |
| 12:51 | <agentbleubleu> | its just since i upgraded |
| 12:51 | <bd_> | anyway, even if the swap fixes the crashes performance will suck, so best fix the real problem |
| 12:51 | <iggy> | look in top to see what's using all your mem |
| 12:51 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:51 | <agentbleubleu> | thx |
| 12:52 | <bd_> | and if it's a runaway memory leak of some sort then adding more swap will just make the crash take longer anyway |
| 12:52 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:52 | <agentbleubleu> | i look in top now |
| 12:52 | <bd_> | sort by memory - hit > once after opening it |
| 12:53 | <JDLSpeedy> | or Shift + M |
| 12:53 | <JDLSpeedy> | unless bd_ means mem% |
| 12:53 | <bd_> | same effect, for sorting |
| 12:54 | <bd_> | or rather, shift+M *is* mem% |
| 12:54 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:54 | <agentbleubleu> | looks like root then clamav |
| 12:54 | <agentbleubleu> | and smamp |
| 12:55 | <agentbleubleu> | this is reason i upgraded to get spam control working |
| 12:55 | <bd_> | agentbleubleu: that's the username |
| 12:55 | <bd_> | look under COMMAND |
| 12:55 | <bd_> | also how much is under VIRT for each of them |
| 12:55 | <bd_> | RES rather |
| 12:55 | <agentbleubleu> | c 1401 clamav 25 0 50640 44m |
| 12:55 | <agentbleubleu> | oops |
| 12:56 | <agentbleubleu> | claimav res = 44m |
| 12:56 | <agentbleubleu> | virt 51168 |
| 12:56 | <bd_> | what was the thing above that? |
| 12:56 | <agentbleubleu> | i tried to copy past the line |
| 12:56 | <bd_> | and the COMMAND column is very important |
| 12:56 | <bd_> | there's a lot of stuff running as root |
| 12:57 | <agentbleubleu> | spamd |
| 12:57 | <bd_> | agentbleubleu: ctrl-S to freeze it so you can copy (ctrl-Q to unfreeze) |
| 12:57 | <bd_> | agentbleubleu: how much RES usage? |
| 12:57 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:57 | <iggy> | why don't you paste the output to pb.linode.com |
| 12:57 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 12:57 | <bd_> | or rather, yeah, just paste the whole thing after freezing it |
| 12:57 | <agentbleubleu> | i paste |
| 12:57 | <agentbleubleu> | sec |
| 12:57 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/429 |
| 12:58 | <bd_> | miniserv.pl? what's that? |
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| 12:58 | <bd_> | it's using a third of your memory, whatever it is |
| 12:58 | <iggy> | top -n1 will print it too (instead of the ctrl+q/ctrl+s business) |
| 12:59 | * | SystemFAILURE is back (gone 00:49:05) |
| 12:59 | <bd_> | oh, miniserv.pl is indeed webmin |
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| 12:59 | <iggy> | might want to also look into tweaking the number of apache processes that are running |
| 12:59 | <bd_> | http://www.virtualmin.com/forums/developers/unknown-miniserv.pl-memory-blowouts.html others are having issues too |
| 12:59 | <bd_> | http://www.virtualmin.com/forums/webmin/78mb-memory-used-by-miniserv.pl-%11-normal-with-virtualmin%10webmin-bundle.html too |
| 13:00 | <JDLSpeedy> | thats alot of apaches |
| 13:00 | <iggy> | do you have to leave virtualmin running all the time? |
| 13:00 | <bd_> | http://secunia.com/advisories/17749/ <-- possibly a security hole |
| 13:00 | <agentbleubleu> | shit |
| 13:00 | <iggy> | when I used to run it, I only started it when I needed it |
| 13:00 | <bd_> | that is, a security hole that can lead to denial of service by memory usage |
| 13:01 | <bd_> | kind of an old alert though |
| 13:01 | <iggy> | yeah |
| 13:01 | <iggy> | you'd hope they'd have fixed that in the 2+ years since it was reported |
| 13:01 | <bd_> | ah, found something |
| 13:02 | <bd_> | http://www.virtualmin.com/documentation/id,virtualmin_on_low_memory_systems/ |
| 13:02 | <bd_> | ^^^ reducing virtualmin from 100mb -> 10mb or so |
| 13:03 | <bd_> | agentbleubleu: try the instructions at that link above |
| 13:03 | <agentbleubleu> | thnx guys |
| 13:03 | <iggy> | and do look into what I said about limiting the number of apache processes |
| 13:07 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 13:07 | <agentbleubleu> | but i woldnt know where to start |
| 13:08 | <iggy> | there's some stuff on that page about apache |
| 13:08 | <iggy> | and google |
| 13:08 | <iggy> | don't know anything about virtualmin, so I can't be more specific |
| 13:08 | <agentbleubleu> | right now, i have another issue too, on the update to the pro version, a lot of errors happened that wont resolve with an update, here is a paste of the errors. |
| 13:08 | <agentbleubleu> | sec |
| 13:09 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/430 |
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| 13:10 | <iggy> | looks like virtualmin tried to mess around with your sources.list file |
| 13:10 | <iggy> | that hamm stuff doesn't look right |
| 13:12 | <agentbleubleu> | this is the memory usage http://the-authorities.com/memory.png |
| 13:13 | <iggy> | that's actually swap space usage |
| 13:15 | <iggy> | can you pastebin the output of "top -bn1" |
| 13:16 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 13:17 | <agentbleubleu> | http://pastebin.linode.com/431 |
| 13:20 | <agentbleubleu> | on the graph now it says virtual memory has gone right down but real memory upto 350Mg from about 250Mg |
| 13:20 | <iggy> | did you do what that page suggested for virtualmin |
| 13:20 | <bd_> | hamm?! |
| 13:21 | <bd_> | that's debian 2.0, circa 1998 o_O |
| 13:21 | <agentbleubleu> | not yet |
| 13:21 | <agentbleubleu> | oh |
| 13:22 | <agentbleubleu> | what that page was doing was basically saying to shut down services right |
| 13:22 | <agentbleubleu> | there are some i can shut down |
| 13:22 | <iggy> | no, it was saying to load the virtualmin modules when they were needed |
| 13:22 | <agentbleubleu> | aha |
| 13:22 | <iggy> | instead of at virtualmin startup |
| 13:22 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
| 13:22 | <agentbleubleu> | i do it now |
| 13:23 | <iggy> | you could still conceivably end up with virtualmin using that much mem again if you use all the virtualmin modules |
| 13:26 | <agentbleubleu> | ok i done that just before i did it real memory was at 480M highest i have ever seen it |
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| 13:26 | <agentbleubleu> | no its back down the 350 and virtualmem is up at top |
| 13:27 | <SystemFAILURE> | I opened a ticket to move my Linode from Atlanta to Dallas .. 3 minutes later : 'your Linode is ready to move' .. caker , mikegrb , tasaro : you are simply fantastic :P |
| 13:27 | <agentbleubleu> | im giving Virtualmin pro a thumbs down |
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| 13:30 | <mwalling> | agentbleubleu: see? i told you to do it yourself :P |
| 13:30 | <agentbleubleu> | hmm |
| 13:33 | <agentbleubleu> | this is enough to make me start drinking again |
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| 13:38 | <Talion> | may i change my ip while keeping my host name (xx.linode.com) |
| 13:40 | <agentbleubleu> | any ideas what i can do about these hamm failures http://pastebin.linode.com/430 |
| 13:41 | <iggy> | find/replace hamm <whatever the latest version of debian is called> |
| 13:42 | <JDLSpeedy> | Talion: i think the IP and the Host Name is together, so if u change IP, ur hostname is going to change |
| 13:42 | <JDLSpeedy> | but still in the context of x.members.linode.com |
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| 13:47 | <Talion> | JDLSpeedy: thanks |
| 13:49 | <agentbleubleu> | ok |
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| 14:52 | <bronson> | Is it possible to download a Xen / QEmu / VMWare / whatever image of my linode machine? |
| 14:52 | <bronson> | I'd like to back it up, and have the backup able to boot locally. |
| 14:52 | <bronson> | Possible? |
| 14:55 | <mwalling> | you could pull the contents of your disk image back to your machine at home, and boot it from there... |
| 14:55 | <mwalling> | i think any solution would involve ducttape |
| 15:00 | <bronson> | Drat... I was hoping this was more known... |
| 15:01 | <bronson> | I tried duct tape (on leehost, not linode) a year ago and totally failed to get the kernel to boot. |
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| 15:20 | <@tasaro> | bronson: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2709 |
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| 15:25 | <bronson> | tasaro: hey, thanks. That might work. |
| 15:26 | <@tasaro> | updated your ticket as well with some other suggestions |
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| 15:27 | <bronson> | tasaro, er, my ticket? The Xen migration one? |
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| 15:31 | <@tasaro> | ha! that wasn't you.. someone just asked the same exact question via a support ticket |
| 15:34 | <bronson> | tasaro, are the other suggestions good? Might you pass them my way? (all tickets are private yes?) |
| 15:35 | <@tasaro> | well, in the ticket they were asking for backup strategies also |
| 15:35 | <@tasaro> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Backups_with_s3sync |
| 15:35 | <@tasaro> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/AutomatedRdiffBackup |
| 15:36 | <m0unds> | mmm...backups |
| 15:36 | <bronson> | cool, thanks. |
| 15:37 | <m0unds> | god, this took entirely too long..moving all my stuff over to my new linode |
| 15:37 | <bronson> | Linode makes backups therefore I don't need to. ;) |
| 15:37 | <Bdragon> | bub? |
| 15:37 | <Bdragon> | rather, huh? |
| 15:37 | <scorche|sh> | bronson: linode only has the drives raided...it is up to you for backups |
| 15:39 | * | bronson knows that only too well |
| 15:39 | <bronson> | rm -rf /var/log/httpd/ * |
| 15:40 | <bronson> | hmm... that's taking far too lo-- CONTROL-C CONTROL-C!!!!! |
| 15:40 | <bronson> | prickly feeling on scalp... |
| 15:43 | <@mikegrb> | mwalling: around? |
| 15:43 | <mwalling> | yeah |
| 15:43 | <@mikegrb> | https://www.linode.com/admin/tickets/edit.cfm?tid=37574 |
| 15:43 | <@mikegrb> | any ideas? |
| 15:43 | * | mikegrb runs |
| 15:43 | <@tasaro> | heh |
| 15:43 | <@mikegrb> | "FATAL: kernel too old" |
| 15:43 | <@mikegrb> | ^-- fresh slackware 12 install with latest 2.6 |
| 15:44 | <@mikegrb> | tasaro: mwalling is my pet slackware user |
| 15:44 | <mwalling> | whats the user/pass to that? |
| 15:44 | <mwalling> | my linode.com creds? |
| 15:44 | <@mikegrb> | mwalling/ihateslackware |
| 15:44 | <mwalling> | ha |
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| 15:48 | <mwalling> | mikegrb: what version of glibc? |
| 15:48 | <mwalling> | (glibc is who is barfing( |
| 15:49 | <@mikegrb> | the default for slack 12? /me shrugs |
| 15:49 | <mwalling> | k |
| 15:49 | <@mikegrb> | I touch the slackware images as little as possible :p |
| 16:56 | <guinea-pig> | and it shows! |
| 17:05 | * | mikegrb deletes guinea-pig |
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| 18:14 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: DNS Manager: Sorted lists in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3123> |
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| 18:57 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 18:57 | <zeroday> | does anyone have mikegrb's lol script, or where I can find it? |
| 18:58 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 18:58 | <Peng> | lol? |
| 18:58 | <Peng> | That's awful. |
| 18:59 | <zeroday> | hehe |
| 18:59 | <zeroday> | I wanted to use it for something else |
| 19:06 | <m0unds> | hah |
| 19:07 | <chesty> | what if someone had a lolz script? |
| 19:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:07 | <chesty> | lol |
| 19:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:07 | <chesty> | lol |
| 19:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:07 | <chesty> | lol |
| 19:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:07 | <chesty> | lol |
| 19:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:07 | <chesty> | lol |
| 19:07 | <m0unds> | hahahaha |
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| 19:41 | <mwalling> | zeroday: knowing what i know of my fellow slackware lover, its prolly a plugin for irssi written in perl... not that hard, and prolly a good intor to irssi plugins |
| 19:41 | <mwalling> | s/intor/intro/ |
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| 19:56 | <mwalling_> | mikegrb: any news on glibc-boy? |
| 19:57 | <m0unds> | irssi = delicious |
| 19:57 | <mwalling_> | yes |
| 19:58 | <Tenkawa> | evening all |
| 20:01 | <m0unds> | oy, the reverse DNS tool is driving me insane |
| 20:02 | * | TofuMatt wants to buy a new external hdd for backup |
| 20:02 | <TofuMatt> | Anyone know of any particularly quiet USB or FireWire HDDs, bigger than 320 gigs? |
| 20:03 | <Tenkawa> | one of the lacie's probably |
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| 20:09 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Open request for testing help. in Performance and Tuning <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3120> |
| 20:23 | <TofuMatt> | That's what I'm thinking... I have a smaller Lacie and it's great |
| 20:23 | <TofuMatt> | Just wanted to know if there were any other names that might have slipped under my radar :) |
| 20:24 | <m0unds> | WD external drives are awful |
| 20:33 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: What do you use your Linode for? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2967> || Mystery infestation strikes Linux/Apache Web sites in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3067> || Linode and wine? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3073> || Kernel issue or confused user? :_) in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=308 |
| 20:39 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Debian vs Ubuntu in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3037> |
| 20:44 | <Internat> | *bangs head on desk* |
| 20:44 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: What datacenter is best? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3029> |
| 20:44 | <Internat> | damm thread bumpers |
| 20:44 | <mwalling_> | yeah |
| 20:44 | <mwalling_> | thats what i thought |
| 20:49 | <bd_> | There needs to be a click-through - "Are you really sure you want to bump this month-old thread?" |
| 20:49 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Apache Virtual Hosts Trouble in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3097> || just getting started in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3062> |
| 20:49 | <greco> | it also needs to say "you'll be spamming the irc channel if you say yes" |
| 20:51 | <bd_> | People will do it anyway, though. |
| 20:51 | <mwalling_> | heh |
| 20:51 | <mwalling_> | they would still click it |
| 20:52 | <Internat> | it also needs to say, the people in the channel will hate you and not help you ever again |
| 20:53 | <mwalling_> | he's still going |
| 20:53 | <mwalling_> | ... /me wonders if he will see *every* thread get replied to |
| 20:53 | <mwalling_> | Web Acceleration Client Error (506) - Suspected Recent Satellite Link Outage |
| 20:53 | <mwalling_> | The satellite link was operating properly up until the most recent web page request, but the last request could not be successfully sent across the satellite link to the Web Acceleration Server. Possible causes for this include recent changes in weather conditions or equipment problems in the Network Operations Center. |
| 20:53 | <mwalling_> | ... |
| 20:54 | <mwalling_> | mind you, i'm watching the lunar eclipse through my office window |
| 20:54 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 20:54 | <Internat> | lol |
| 20:55 | <mwalling_> | i <3 hughesnet |
| 20:55 | <mwalling_> | for 2 more days!!!! |
| 20:55 | <mwalling_> | then no interent for a weekish :( |
| 20:56 | <mwalling_> | <quote>I'm in the Atlanta data center, and haven't had any significant problems (yet).</quote> |
| 20:56 | <mwalling_> | Joined: 19 Feb 2008 |
| 20:57 | <mwalling_> | *headdesk* |
| 21:00 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 21:00 | <TofuMatt> | lol |
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| 21:47 | <TofuMatt_> | :P |
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| 22:59 | <fake_> | so can i mount a disk image that i'm not booted on? |
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| 23:00 | <opello> | mount? sure |
| 23:01 | <fake_> | how do i know which device to use? (haven't done this in a while if it's not apparent) |
| 23:03 | <sveiss> | you can set which disk images appear as which devices by editing the configuration profile |
| 23:03 | <sveiss> | not sure if you have to reboot to have the changes picked up, though |
| 23:03 | <fake_> | ah |
| 23:03 | <fake_> | thanks |
| 23:04 | <sveiss> | brb... applying a firmware patch to my keyboard, of all things |
| 23:05 | <sveiss> | hm, didn't require a reboot |
| 23:10 | <purrdeta> | sveiss: have a mac? |
| 23:10 | <sveiss> | aye |
| 23:11 | <sveiss> | I find the idea of a keyboard having enough smarts to need firmware to be weird, let alone to needing to patch said firmware... |
| 23:12 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 23:12 | <purrdeta |