| --- | Log | opened Wed Feb 13 00:00:06 2008 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Feb 13 2008 |
| 00:00 | <@tasaro> | alain: which profile are you trying to boot? |
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| 00:04 | <onixythai> | tasaro: maybe i can try to boot my server too |
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| 00:10 | <alain> | I am trying to bood profile My CentOS 4.0 (RHEL) Profile (Latest 2.6 Series (2.6.23.12-linode41)) |
| 00:10 | <alain> | it now booted |
| 00:10 | <alain> | all I did was resize the partitions in order to use the extra space |
| 00:10 | <alain> | no data seems to be lost... feel much better |
| 00:11 | <alain> | but it took a while! |
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| 00:11 | <alain> | i still don't understand what happened... but it finally booted |
| 00:15 | <alain> | thank you anyways |
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| 01:23 | <mattskr> | hi everyone |
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| 03:15 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Kernel updates for CVE-2008-600, 2008-0010 and 2008-0009 ? in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3110>; |
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| 04:29 | <bleu> | Hi guys, I have run into a problem with my old server phpmyadmin, the data is latin (french) but their phpmyadmin panel has no selection on export for character set. On the new linode install i also see no option, but on another server I have there is a little selection at the bottom near the save button. I will put an image on the server. Has anyone here any idea on how to add this functionality to phpmyadmin? |
| 04:31 | <bleu> | http://the-authorities.com/2.png |
| 04:32 | <bleu> | this is a picture with the selection option at the bottom. |
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| 04:39 | <agentbleubleu> | anyone? |
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| 05:40 | <praetorian> | my atlanta linode seems slow |
| 05:40 | <praetorian> | bandwidth wise |
| 05:40 | <praetorian> | anyone else having similar problems? |
| 05:41 | <Tenkawa> | yes |
| 05:41 | <Tenkawa> | same here |
| 05:41 | * | Talman is in Dallas, sorry |
| 05:42 | <Tenkawa> | yeah my atlanta one is definitely sluggishon the bandwidth front |
| 05:43 | <quanin> | mine seems to be doing alright. |
| 05:44 | <Tenkawa> | I wish I could say the same |
| 05:44 | <praetorian> | my dallas one is fine |
| 05:45 | <praetorian> | my atlanta one seems to be recovering now |
| 05:45 | <praetorian> | but weird |
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| 05:45 | <Tenkawa> | probably just an intermittent hit |
| 05:45 | <Talman> | Maybe someone went nuts on a site. |
| 05:46 | <Tenkawa> | wouldnt be suprised |
| 05:46 | <quanin> | atlanta's been having all manner of problems the last month or so. |
| 05:47 | <Tenkawa> | hmm that I hadnt noticed |
| 05:47 | <Tenkawa> | been working great here |
| 05:47 | <Tenkawa> | at least the xen one |
| 05:47 | <quanin> | didn't they have a like 3 hr outage a couple weeks back? |
| 05:48 | <Tenkawa> | cant speak for the original |
| 05:48 | <Tenkawa> | quanin: not that I noticed |
| 05:48 | <Talman> | ... point. I'm on a xen node. |
| 05:48 | <Tenkawa> | unless it was "right" before I joined |
| 05:48 | <Talman> | So even if the Dallas boxen go off, I'm still on the xen box. |
| 05:49 | <Tenkawa> | xen is awesome |
| 05:49 | <Tenkawa> | I ru it at home |
| 05:49 | <Tenkawa> | er run |
| 05:49 | <Tenkawa> | yes I am a sad geek.. I know |
| 05:51 | <Talman> | Heh. |
| 05:51 | <Tenkawa> | yay!!! I should get my 360 back today |
| 05:51 | <Tenkawa> | hopefullly in one piece |
| 05:54 | <quanin> | okay, so i can also be an idiot. it was just barely a month ago... 1/9/2008. |
| 05:54 | <Tenkawa> | ahh |
| 05:54 | <Tenkawa> | yeah that might have been like 2 days before I signed up |
| 05:54 | <quanin> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3028 |
| 05:55 | <Tenkawa> | jan 15 |
| 05:55 | <quanin> | it was freemont that was having a majority of the host issues this month. and i'm in that datacenter... |
| 05:55 | <Tenkawa> | ythats when I joined |
| 05:55 | <Tenkawa> | ahh |
| 05:56 | <quanin> | that's it. linode has too many people in too many datacenters. |
| 05:56 | * | quanin nods. |
| 05:56 | <Tenkawa> | heh |
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| 06:02 | * | Tenkawa listens to some dinosaur jr |
| 06:06 | * | quanin sees how long it takes him to break his linode. |
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| 06:10 | <sakaal> | maybe i should start a Java EE school |
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| 06:11 | <sakaal> | I would teach my students free as long as they program what I say and give up all the copyrights to me |
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| 06:55 | <Tenkawa> | sakaal: heheh |
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| 07:10 | <jimbob28> | greetings... anyone else getting packet loss to their vps? the traceroute is fine until it hits my ip. it's about 30% loss. i'm on host87.atlanta.linode.com |
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| 07:18 | <mwalling_> | jimbob28: i'm seeing identical from my dallas node |
| 07:18 | * | Talman raises an eyebrow. |
| 07:18 | <praetorian> | i was getting similar with my atlanta one before .. but not my dallas one.. |
| 07:19 | * | Talman is ssh'ed into my xen on Dallas. |
| 07:19 | <Talman> | Should I run a traceroute? |
| 07:19 | * | mwalling_ is vpn'd through his xen in dallas |
| 07:19 | <praetorian> | flip a coin |
| 07:20 | <praetorian> | not getting any packet loss atm, fwiw |
| 07:21 | <mwalling_> | http://p.linode.com/270 |
| 07:22 | <Talman> | nor am I. |
| 07:22 | <Talman> | Well, not at Level 3. |
| 07:22 | <Talman> | Comcast is sucking as usual. |
| 07:23 | * | mwalling_ drops vpn and tries again |
| 07:24 | <jimbob28> | mwalling: same -> http://p.linode.com/271 |
| 07:25 | * | Talman just has tracert on windows. :( |
| 07:25 | <mwalling_> | Talman: there is a windows version of mtr |
| 07:25 | <Talman> | o rly. |
| 07:25 | <Talman> | googling. |
| 07:26 | <mwalling_> | i'm dropping 10% when going timewarner -> level3 -> gnax |
| 07:26 | <Talman> | ok, runninng. |
| 07:27 | <Talman> | I'm getting a 10% loss at comcast to level 3. |
| 07:27 | <jimbob28> | i've raised a support ticket |
| 07:27 | <Talman> | But its like 26 degrees and its comcast. |
| 07:28 | <Talman> | http://p.linode.com/272 |
| 07:29 | <mwalling_> | Talman: do that to his host though |
| 07:29 | <Talman> | To jimbob28's? |
| 07:29 | <Talman> | k |
| 07:29 | <mwalling_> | host87.atlanta.linode.com |
| 07:30 | <Talman> | Ah, Atlanta, yeah people have been complaining of problems on atlanta all through the night. |
| 07:30 | <Talman> | i have... ow |
| 07:31 | <Talman> | dallas on l3 is down, 80% loss |
| 07:31 | <sakaal> | how does mtr select the list of hosts (default) |
| 07:31 | <Talman> | http://p.linode.com/273 |
| 07:32 | <Talman> | ae-73-73.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net <- This seems to be a problem. |
| 07:32 | <mwalling_> | sakaal: traceroute |
| 07:32 | <sakaal> | ok. im getting huge losses too |
| 07:32 | <Talman> | And then two routers won't even respond. |
| 07:33 | <jimbob28> | many routers won't respond to icmp if they're busy. this manifests itself as a high loss figure for that hop, but not the ones beyond it |
| 07:33 | <Talman> | 63.247.71.206 |
| 07:33 | <sakaal> | i have losses everywhere |
| 07:33 | <Talman> | 40 percent average failure. |
| 07:34 | <Talman> | Is that your host? |
| 07:34 | <Talman> | It stops after that IP. |
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| 07:37 | * | Talman idly wonders who's box that is. Linode's or GNAX's. whois says its a GNAX Internal Device. |
| 07:37 | <mwalling_> | !dns 63.247.71.206 |
| 07:37 | <linbot`> | mwalling_: Host not found. |
| 07:37 | <Talman> | No RDNS, I don't think |
| 07:38 | <Talman> | Now, my Dallas node IP comes back to Linode, as additional whois info. |
| 07:38 | <mwalling_> | yeah, forward dns is host87 |
| 07:38 | <sakaal> | http://p.linode.com/274 |
| 07:38 | <Talman> | Ah, ok. |
| 07:39 | <mwalling_> | host87.atlanta.linode.com is an alias for host87.linode.com. |
| 07:39 | <mwalling_> | host87.linode.com has address 63.247.71.206 |
| 07:40 | <Talman> | Wonder why GNAX calls it "GNAX Internal Device" on the Organization. |
| 07:40 | <mwalling_> | cause gnax owns the /19 |
| 07:41 | <Talman> | Actually, enver mind. There are two records. |
| 07:41 | <Talman> | One on the /19 for Linode. |
| 07:41 | <Talman> | And then one for GNAX. |
| 07:41 | <Talman> | Anyway, hmm. |
| 07:41 | <Talman> | Hopefully they'll be able to fix it. I wonder what the problem is. |
| 07:42 | <jimbob28> | hm. there's a fair bit of bgp flapping going on. my mtr keeps adding new lines as the trace takes different paths |
| 07:44 | <mwalling_> | i tried something... http://files.markwalling.org/mtrreport |
| 07:44 | <mwalling_> | that was using for i in `seq 77 95`; do mtr host$i.atlanta.linode.com --report; done > mtrreport |
| 07:48 | <praetorian> | i am noticing my alanta node is a bit slow again now |
| 07:48 | <linbot`> | New news from forums: RED5 streaming on linode? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3103>; |
| 07:48 | <mwalling_> | all but one of those hosts had loss on the last hop to the node |
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| 07:54 | <praetorian> | oo .. no response from it now |
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| 07:54 | <praetorian> | ssh session drop out |
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| 07:58 | <jimbob28> | yeah... ssh is unusable on mine |
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| 07:59 | <sakaal> | libot should say whether it is good news or bad news |
| 07:59 | <mwalling_> | linbot is just listening to the rss feed |
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| 07:59 | <sakaal> | well it could use some heuristics like random .... |
| 08:00 | <sakaal> | or say "Bad" if the message contains apologies or the words "we are working on it" |
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| 08:02 | <mwalling_> | ... it just gets the rss feeds... |
| 08:02 | <sakaal> | :) |
| 08:03 | <@tasaro> | working on it |
| 08:03 | <sakaal> | the rss protocol should have a boolean flag to denote good or bad news |
| 08:04 | <sakaal> | after all, we do live in a black and white world |
| 08:04 | <greco> | funny |
| 08:04 | <sakaal> | !insult God |
| 08:04 | <linbot`> | God - You are nothing but an unoriginal thimbleful of porous snake. |
| 08:05 | <sakaal> | !insult Mohammed |
| 08:05 | <linbot`> | Mohammed - You are nothing but a sausage-snorfling coagulation of industrial guano. |
| 08:06 | <sakaal> | soon linbot will get death threats |
| 08:07 | <jimbob28> | oh, there's a bot :) sorry, i'm new here |
| 08:09 | <sakaal> | no worries... i think God or Mohammad just avenged my arrogance |
| 08:09 | <sakaal> | I was having a delicious chocolate muffin that suddenly exploded all over my sofa for no apparent reason |
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| 08:10 | <sakaal> | ...unless linbot can do that too... |
| 08:11 | <sakaal> | you wouldn't believe all the things an angry irc bot can do to your muffin |
| 08:13 | <linbot`> | sakaal - You are nothing but a humid quart of boil-brained grits. |
| 08:14 | <sakaal> | I knew it was linbot... |
| 08:16 | <Talman> | • linbot`: help • |
| 08:16 | <Talman> | Ok, my script, supposedly, leaks 8-bit characters. What does this mean? |
| 08:16 | <sakaal> | !help |
| 08:16 | <linbot`> | sakaal: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 08:16 | <Talman> | Someone paste that back to me. |
| 08:17 | <greco> | [08:13][08:13] <Talman> • linbot`: help • that? |
| 08:17 | <Talman> | Yeah. Someone threw a fit about my "leaking 8-bit characters." To which I say, wtf are you using a 7-bit client for that isn't stripping? |
| 08:18 | <greco> | they're BEL chars |
| 08:18 | <greco> | [08:13][08:13] <Talman> <0x07> linbot`: help <0x07> |
| 08:19 | <guinea-pig> | NOT BEL!!! |
| 08:19 | <guinea-pig> | argh |
| 08:19 | <greco> | fraid so |
| 08:19 | <guinea-pig> | that's annoying as hell. you know that |
| 08:19 | <Talman> | Bell? |
| 08:20 | <guinea-pig> | yes, bell |
| 08:20 | <Talman> | Awesome. |
| 08:20 | <guinea-pig> | except for some reason... my terminal is printing them instead of doing what it should |
| 08:20 | * | Talman will have to ask the person who wrote the script why he uses bell characters. |
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| 08:20 | <guinea-pig> | Talman: do you know what BEL is? |
| 08:21 | <Talman> | Yes, it rings the terminal bell. |
| 08:21 | <mwalling_> | BEL != bell |
| 08:21 | <Talman> | Then spare me the google. |
| 08:22 | <greco> | it only seems to do it when you paste in. i'm guessing it's a paste, cause your normal conversation text is fine |
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| 08:22 | <Talman> | Nope, it's the mIRC script. |
| 08:22 | <mwalling_> | i "U" on inverted colors |
| 08:22 | <Talman> | If I use :, it autocompletes the nick and makes weird characters. |
| 08:22 | <mwalling_> | dont use mIRC? |
| 08:22 | <mwalling_> | hehe |
| 08:22 | <guinea-pig> | or edit the script |
| 08:22 | <Talman> | No, must use mIRC. :) |
| 08:22 | <guinea-pig> | no you mustn't |
| 08:22 | <Talman> | Must use JupiScript. |
| 08:22 | <mwalling_> | Talman: why? |
| 08:23 | <greco> | i use mirc. i thought you could just type the first couple letters and hit tab key for auto complete |
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| 08:23 | <Talman> | You can, greco. This is a very heavily modified script called Jupiscript. |
| 08:23 | <greco> | ah |
| 08:23 | <Talman> | Normally this mIRC only connects to a specific network. |
| 08:23 | <mwalling_> | which is why you should get stabbed :P |
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| 08:24 | <guinea-pig> | mirc is an inferior client, obviously |
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| 08:26 | <Talman> | I am unstabbable. :| |
| 08:26 | <sakaal> | unstoppable? |
| 08:27 | <Talman> | No, just incapable of being stabbed. |
| 08:27 | <sakaal> | neat |
| 08:27 | <sakaal> | but you can still be shot, right? |
| 08:28 | <Talman> | Actually, I'm pretty immune to all physical attack. |
| 08:29 | <Talman> | * On the internet. |
| 08:29 | <sakaal> | then you should type "join the" in google and take the first suggested option |
| 08:29 | <Talman> | Join the boy scouts? |
| 08:29 | <sakaal> | my goggle autocompletion suggests "join the army" but the search gives boy scouts |
| 08:30 | <Talman> | My opera doesn't do autocompetion, and my firefox is closed |
| 08:30 | <sakaal> | obviously the autocompletion and search are out of sync |
| 08:30 | <sakaal> | well NRA comes right after boy scouts |
| 08:31 | <sakaal> | firefox autocompletion gives: army, police, navy, police force, marines, revolution |
| 08:32 | <sakaal> | somehow i find the "revolution" quite antiestablishment compared to the other options |
| 08:33 | <Talman> | wii |
| 08:33 | <sakaal> | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=army&word2=boy+scouts |
| 08:34 | <greco> | rimuhosting? |
| 08:34 | <sakaal> | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=linode&word2=rimuhosting |
| 08:35 | <sakaal> | but this is worrying: |
| 08:35 | <sakaal> | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=linode&word2=eapps |
| 08:35 | <greco> | yeah, big difference |
| 08:36 | <greco> | eaps has lots of other uses though |
| 08:36 | <sakaal> | must be that |
| 08:37 | <greco> | lots of "powered by" eapps. |
| 08:38 | <sakaal> | we conclude that linode should introduce a "Powered by linode" button |
| 08:38 | * | greco agrees |
| 08:38 | <mwalling_> | ... look on the forum |
| 08:39 | <greco> | yeah, someone made some buttons a while ago. time to implement |
| 08:39 | <mwalling_> | i think tasaro (?) made up some buttons |
| 08:39 | <sakaal> | well then they should be promoted more actively |
| 08:40 | <sakaal> | my JSF EJB3 LDAPS reCAPTCHA experiment is still too green to be promoted |
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| 08:50 | <@mikegrb> | linode.com/images/pr I think |
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| 08:53 | <greco> | yes, and discussion here: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2993&start=15 |
| 09:01 | <sakaal> | hmm strange... i think this god person is playing tricks on me... i just received a random public key from reCAPTCHA that ends with "_god9y" |
| 09:01 | <sakaal> | it's probably god trying to say he's 9 years old |
| 09:02 | <greco> | i guess the _ represents sex field |
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| 09:03 | <greco> | *gender |
| 09:04 | <sakaal> | yes, but only with females |
| 09:04 | <greco> | sexpert... |
| 09:04 | <sakaal> | it's a field sexperiment |
| 09:04 | <sakaal> | you know www.expertsexchange.com |
| 09:05 | <sakaal> | http://www.therapistfinder.com/ |
| 09:07 | <sakaal> | hehe |
| 09:08 | <guinea-pig> | farkin monkeys |
| 09:08 | <jimbob28> | packet loss problem seems to have gone away |
| 09:09 | <guinea-pig> | so have the packets |
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| 09:42 | <Tenkawa> | oh.. so there "was" a network issue with atlanta earlier? |
| 09:43 | <jimbob28> | yes |
| 09:43 | <Tenkawa> | ok |
| 09:44 | <Tenkawa> | good to know I wasnt hallucinating that badly |
| 09:44 | <Tenkawa> | heheh |
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| 10:05 | <argoe> | I don't see anything in the forums about it but this is the second time this week that I'm getting no name resolution from my linode |
| 10:05 | <argoe> | any idea why? |
| 10:05 | <caker> | argoe: which nameservers in your resolv.conf don't respond? |
| 10:06 | <argoe> | well....at the moment...they do. It JUST started resolving again. |
| 10:07 | <argoe> | I'm sorry caker, I dno't know which ones weren't resolving. |
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| 10:07 | <argoe> | I have the default resolv.conf. Should I be changing it? |
| 10:07 | <caker> | argoe: next time it happens, dig google.com @resolver1, dig google.com @resolver2, etc, and let me know which one you have trouble with |
| 10:08 | <caker> | argoe: as long as it matches what's in your Remote Access subtab, no need to change it |
| 10:09 | <argoe> | ok |
| 10:09 | <argoe> | thanks |
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| 10:10 | <argoe> | caker: the only thing different is that the first entry in my resolv.conf is NOT on the remote access subtab. should I remove the first entry? |
| 10:11 | <argoe> | caker: 67.18.92.7 |
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| 10:18 | <sitespark> | hi all, just in sign up process; 'Please select the geographic location for your new Linode account' showing ONLY Dallas, TX, USA as available, yet on Linode forums the IP to ping Dallas is timing out for me - from Sydney, Australia |
| 10:19 | <caker> | which forum post? this one: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 ? |
| 10:19 | <caker> | argoe: lemme check that resolver -- one moment |
| 10:19 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o caker] by ChanServ |
| 10:19 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o linbot] by ChanServ |
| 10:19 | <sitespark> | I checked: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2654&sid=7153c3bbd626545ef70b85126cb31492 |
| 10:20 | <@caker> | sitespark: that's an old post -- please use the one I provided |
| 10:20 | <sitespark> | Ideally id like to be on Fremont, faster pings from Aus. Is this possible? |
| 10:20 | <@caker> | argoe: you should remove 67.18.92.7 from your resolv.conf |
| 10:21 | <sitespark> | checking |
| 10:21 | <quanin> | sitespark: are you signing up for the 360? |
| 10:21 | <sitespark> | yep :) |
| 10:21 | <quanin> | !avail freemont |
| 10:21 | <@linbot> | quanin: (linodeavail takes no arguments) -- Gets the availability of each Linode plan type optionally restricting the results to a specific datacenter. |
| 10:21 | <quanin> | ... don't tell me it's case sensative. |
| 10:21 | <@tasaro> | !avail-he |
| 10:22 | <@linbot> | tasaro: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 |
| 10:22 | <sitespark> | bugger, this was a central consideration of choosing Linode - CA based DC |
| 10:22 | <iggy> | they may have openings soon |
| 10:23 | <@tasaro> | sitespark: let me take a look -- Linode 360? |
| 10:23 | <sitespark> | any Linode reps that could tell me when? if so, can the Xen instance be transferred? |
| 10:23 | <sitespark> | tasaro: sry - yes, ta :) |
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| 10:25 | <@tasaro> | !avail-he |
| 10:25 | <@linbot> | tasaro: Fremont360 - 2, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 |
| 10:25 | <@tasaro> | sitespark: go for it |
| 10:26 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 10:26 | <quanin> | do i even want to know how 2 of 'em suddenly just became free? lol |
| 10:26 | <@tasaro> | quanin: make sure you pay your invoice ;) |
| 10:26 | <sitespark> | Coolz! |
| 10:26 | <quanin> | hehe. |
| 10:26 | <sitespark> | Done! |
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| 10:26 | <sitespark> | Thanks heaps! |
| 10:26 | <@tasaro> | sitespark: The Xen hosts are currently sold out in Fremont, however |
| 10:27 | <sitespark> | Oh, shit |
| 10:27 | <mattskr> | hey guys |
| 10:27 | <quanin> | at least we know it's not automated. |
| 10:27 | <sitespark> | Ah, thats a kind of deal-breaker, shouldnt have jumped so soon. |
| 10:27 | <sitespark> | tasaro: xen is key to the VPS; its a test-bed for a xen deployed server/framework |
| 10:28 | <@tasaro> | sitespark: We can set you up on Xen in Dallas and ping you when something opens in Fremont |
| 10:28 | <sitespark> | tasaro: will XEN availability change? (squirming, hoping not pushing my luck) |
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| 10:29 | <sitespark> | tasaro: ok, this would be fine. Est. time? |
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| 10:30 | <quanin> | is the cancelling of servers automated after a certain point, or do you just go through periodically and he who doesn't pay gets dumped? sorry if it's none of my business, but now i'm curious. |
| 10:30 | <sitespark> | tasaro: im user: sitespark (obviously) :-P |
| 10:30 | <@tasaro> | can set you up in Dallas in a matter of minutes.. I can't give you a reliable ETA on Xen in Fremont atm |
| 10:30 | <@tasaro> | one sec |
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| 10:33 | <@tasaro> | sitespark: you should be all set |
| 10:35 | <@mikegrb> | quanin: semi automated |
| 10:36 | <@mikegrb> | quanin: report shows all deliquent and includes any billing tickets the user may have open check the check boxes, hit submit |
| 10:37 | <@mikegrb> | deliquent emails get an email letting them know something is wrong, then suspended, then cancelled |
| 10:37 | <@mikegrb> | s/emails/linodes/ |
| 10:37 | <sitespark> | tasaro: great! so in dallas in xen? shld i check in again for CA XEN availability or will I be emailed? |
| 10:38 | <@mikegrb> | sitespark: if you open a ticket we can let you know once ca xen availability occurrs |
| 10:38 | <sakaal> | hmm i wonder where System.out goes with JSF managed beans... |
| 10:38 | * | mikegrb bets on the moon |
| 10:39 | <mwalling_> | mars |
| 10:39 | <@mikegrb> | close! |
| 10:39 | <sitespark> | mikegrb: ok thanks a lot, will do so now. cyaz! |
| 10:40 | <sakaal> | damn... just what i needed. a mars mission to get my recaptcha tested |
| 10:40 | * | linbot <3's mikegrb |
| 10:41 | * | mikegrb <3's linbot |
| 10:41 | <sakaal> | NASA will be very pissed to find out they weren't the first to visit mars |
| 10:42 | <@linbot> | mikegrb: Want to go out after work tonight? |
| 10:42 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 10:42 | <sakaal> | hey watch it, your wife is following this channel |
| 10:42 | <@mikegrb> | heidi: I have to work late tonight |
| 10:43 | <@linbot> | heidi: Sorry honey, we can't hang out tonight... |
| 10:43 | <sakaal> | oh sorry i didnt know you were married to linbot |
| 10:43 | <@tasaro> | caker: I'm going to work from home today, ok? mikegrb is frightening me |
| 10:44 | * | mikegrb takes off his pants |
| 10:44 | * | linbot folds back the sheets |
| 10:44 | * | tasaro closes his door (leaving mikegrb on the *other* side) |
| 10:45 | <sakaal> | maybe you should rename it lindoll |
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| 10:52 | <richard-blaine> | will linode open vps service in singapore data center, please. thank you. |
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| 11:11 | <argoe> | caker: sorry had to take the kids to school. I removed that one before you responded anyway. That one was first in the list so maybe that was the problem. Thanks. |
| 11:14 | <@linbot> | tasaro: You can come out now... |
| 11:16 | <avongauss> | tasaro, I wouldn't do it... |
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| 12:01 | <mattskr> | I need to rebuild my Linode but do not want any downloading. Is it ok to order a second linode and then cancel it a month later? |
| 12:01 | <mattskr> | *any downtime |
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| 12:02 | <anderiv> | mattskr: sure. |
| 12:02 | <@tasaro> | mattskr: yes |
| 12:03 | <mattskr> | ok, thanks |
| 12:03 | <anderiv> | mattskr: you'll probably want to request the second linode to be located in the same DC as your current one. |
| 12:03 | <mattskr> | sure I'm in Atlanta I think |
| 12:04 | <anderiv> | !avail-atlanta |
| 12:04 | <@linbot> | anderiv: Atlanta360 - 43, Atlanta540 - 10, Atlanta720 - 0, Atlanta1080 - 0, Atlanta1440 - 0 |
| 12:04 | <Bdragon> | You get a choice on setup now |
| 12:04 | <anderiv> | Bdragon: ahh nice...didn't know that. |
| 12:04 | <mattskr> | 43 360's that will work for me |
| 12:04 | <@tasaro> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2919 |
| 12:05 | <anderiv> | wow - I'm not sure how I missed that :-) |
| 12:05 | <@tasaro> | mattskr: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2938 and http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2928 may also be useful, depending on your rebuild strategy |
| 12:06 | <mattskr> | I plan on putting Ubuntu 7.10, has anyone had any issues with Ubuntu lately? |
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| 12:08 | <mwalling_> | i have issues with apt :) |
| 12:08 | <@mikegrb> | it's too easy for mwalling_ |
| 12:08 | <@mikegrb> | he prefers to install software with a hex editor |
| 12:08 | * | mikegrb runs |
| 12:08 | <mattskr> | haha |
| 12:08 | <mwalling_> | s/easy/annoying/ |
| 12:08 | <mattskr> | well I am running fedora right now and I don't like yum |
| 12:09 | <mwalling_> | pkgtools(8) :) |
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| 12:10 | <Bdragon> | ldd should be part of pkgtools ;) |
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| 12:11 | <mwalling_> | eh |
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| 12:12 | <Bdragon> | (That was a bit of a devil's advocate comment ;) |
| 12:13 | <mattskr> | I'm just an ubuntu guy, I use it at home and at work |
| 12:13 | <mattskr> | I only use Fedora on my linode so I've never even seen a Fedora gui |
| 12:13 | <mwalling_> | who needs a gui |
| 12:13 | <mwalling_> | :P |
| 12:13 | <mattskr> | for work I do :-) |
| 12:14 | <Bdragon> | You a graphic artist? |
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| 12:14 | <mattskr> | no |
| 12:14 | <Bdragon> | You a drafter? |
| 12:14 | <mattskr> | uh...no |
| 12:14 | <Bdragon> | You a musician? |
| 12:14 | <mattskr> | hmm...no |
| 12:14 | <Bdragon> | Journalist? |
| 12:14 | <mattskr> | not quite |
| 12:15 | <@mikegrb> | blogger! |
| 12:15 | * | mikegrb runs |
| 12:15 | * | Bdragon gives up on professions that "require" a gui to get anything done... |
| 12:15 | <mattskr> | haha no I'm an IBM Websphere consultant |
| 12:15 | <Bdragon> | heh |
| 12:15 | <zeroday> | sounds expensive |
| 12:16 | <Bdragon> | Fair 'nuff |
| 12:16 | <mattskr> | working on a theme for Websphere Portal right now...need the gui =) |
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| 12:30 | <agentbleubleu> | can anyone here talk me through the install process for VIM |
| 12:30 | <anderiv> | agentbleubleu: what distro? |
| 12:30 | <agentbleubleu> | It seems a little complicated |
| 12:30 | <agentbleubleu> | debian |
| 12:30 | <agentbleubleu> | 4 |
| 12:30 | <anderiv> | apt-get install vim |
| 12:30 | <anderiv> | don't even think about using the generic tarball :-) |
| 12:30 | <agentbleubleu> | i thought it was a text editor |
| 12:31 | <anderiv> | agentbleubleu: it is. |
| 12:31 | <anderiv> | *the* text editor I might add. |
| 12:31 | <anderiv> | ;-) |
| 12:31 | <agentbleubleu> | ok you might have to help me a bit more |
| 12:31 | <agentbleubleu> | sec |
| 12:31 | <agentbleubleu> | i get it installed |
| 12:32 | <mwalling_> | agentbleubleu: ... got any reason you want to use vim? |
| 12:32 | * | mwalling_ points to nano |
| 12:32 | * | anderiv agrees (in this case anyway) |
| 12:32 | <agentbleubleu> | ok im using text editor for my html files |
| 12:33 | <agentbleubleu> | and i have a mysql one that is 45Mg |
| 12:33 | <mwalling_> | ... continue |
| 12:33 | <agentbleubleu> | that I have to fix, some problem with UFT-8 / 16 mismatch between servers, |
| 12:34 | <agentbleubleu> | so the only way i have found of doing it is to open it in webdesign (texteditor) then it shows the iffy characters |
| 12:34 | <agentbleubleu> | then copy and past it to textedit |
| 12:34 | <agentbleubleu> | then do the find and replace. |
| 12:34 | <agentbleubleu> | that worked on a smaller one |
| 12:34 | <agentbleubleu> | see the data is french |
| 12:35 | <agentbleubleu> | anyway it wont work on this one as the file is too big for webdesign to open |
| 12:35 | <agentbleubleu> | keeps crashing |
| 12:35 | <agentbleubleu> | so the guys here once recommended VIM and i tried but it looked like a nightmmare to figure out |
| 12:35 | <agentbleubleu> | anyway its now installed on the server |
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| 12:35 | <mwalling_> | it has a steap learning curve |
| 12:36 | <rbrtrx> | agentbleubleu: yeah, it's not easy-to-use, really, but it is very powerful. |
| 12:36 | <agentbleubleu> | oh |
| 12:36 | <mwalling_> | following vimtutor and keeping an open mind should help though |
| 12:36 | <agentbleubleu> | yea it looked it |
| 12:36 | <rbrtrx> | yeah, vimtutor is very helpful |
| 12:36 | <peleg> | Hey buddies... I have installed mailman using a virtual host lists.domain.org; should I add this subdomain in the linode's DNS manager as well? |
| 12:36 | <agentbleubleu> | ok in a sentence can you sum up why its so much better than the basic editord |
| 12:37 | <anderiv> | I've been using vim (or vi) for 10 years now, and I still run through vimtutor periodically to brush up... |
| 12:37 | <mwalling_> | peleg: yes, A and MX records |
| 12:37 | <peleg> | mwalling_: thanks; I shouldn't configure it on apache too, right? |
| 12:37 | <agentbleubleu> | ok so im going to have a look at vimtutor |
| 12:38 | <peleg> | anderiv: could you explain a bit about vi/vim? I'm curious... |
| 12:38 | <rbrtrx> | agentbleubleu: it makes it very easy to do repetitive/far-reaching edits and actions in your files, once you understand the commands. |
| 12:38 | <anderiv> | peleg: what are you curious about? |
| 12:38 | <peleg> | anderiv: why people use it, mostly. |
| 12:38 | <rbrtrx> | masochism. |
| 12:39 | <mwalling_> | peleg: because it makes sense |
| 12:39 | <peleg> | mwalling_: ok, so I'm curious about this sense. |
| 12:39 | <anderiv> | for me? The main thing that drew me to it initially was that your fingers never have to leave the keyboard. |
| 12:40 | <peleg> | anderiv: hmmm... what's wrong with the mouse? |
| 12:40 | <anderiv> | peleg: it's slow. |
| 12:40 | <anderiv> | peleg: the time lost when switching back and forth.... |
| 12:41 | <rbrtrx> | peleg: it's a tool for making edits to text files quickly, and while it, like any tool, has its faults, it is pretty darn good at what it does, once you understand it. |
| 12:41 | <peleg> | anderiv: I see. well - I usually don't do that back-n-forth so much in SciTE - most of the things are available via the keyboard. |
| 12:41 | <anderiv> | peleg: like rbrtrx said, the text processing features of vim are *very* powerful. |
| 12:42 | <rbrtrx> | I use TextMate on my Mac, and vim over ssh, usually |
| 12:42 | <peleg> | anderiv: but there are hundreds of things it CAN'T do. well - what are these text features that are powerful? (I really want to know, I'm not mocking you) |
| 12:43 | <rbrtrx> | peleg: macros and repeating commands (probably my favourite thing in vim) by prefixing them with a number are the main two that come to mind |
| 12:43 | <rbrtrx> | its commands are pretty convenient, too |
| 12:43 | <anderiv> | umm - let's see...moving/copying blocks of test in fairly complex ways, regex search/replace, multiple copy/paste buffers, to name a few. |
| 12:43 | <rbrtrx> | yeah, the regex search/replace is nice |
| 12:44 | <anderiv> | it does syntax highlighting as well. |
| 12:44 | <peleg> | rbrtrx: I see. Never used macros. regex search replace is quite common in text editors today. but for simple missions: don't you find nano simpler? |
| 12:44 | <anderiv> | peleg: not a chance |
| 12:44 | <anderiv> | :-) |
| 12:44 | <rbrtrx> | peleg: not really. I got used to vim a long time ago. |
| 12:44 | <anderiv> | peleg: I have to use the arrow keys in nano <---- annoying |
| 12:45 | <rbrtrx> | and nano doesn't seem to respect my newlines. |
| 12:45 | <rbrtrx> | heh, I use the arrow keys in vim :P |
| 12:45 | <anderiv> | rbrtrx: weak. |
| 12:45 | <anderiv> | :-) |
| 12:45 | <anderiv> | jkl; baby |
| 12:45 | <rbrtrx> | I hate moving with the home row ^_^ |
| 12:45 | <anderiv> | err hjkl rather :-) |
| 12:45 | <rbrtrx> | hah |
| 12:45 | <rbrtrx> | if it was ijkl that would be better actually |
| 12:45 | <rbrtrx> | but I'd still probably use the arrow keys |
| 12:46 | <anderiv> | it took me a long time to break myself of the arrow habit, but it's a ton faster. |
| 12:46 | <anderiv> | anderiv: you can probably set it up that way in your .vimrc |
| 12:46 | * | anderiv still prefers hjkl though. ijkl seems less comfortable. |
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| 12:47 | * | rbrtrx shrugs |
| 12:47 | <rbrtrx> | to each his own. |
| 12:47 | * | anderiv nods |
| 12:47 | <anderiv> | case in point: people using emacs |
| 12:47 | <anderiv> | hehe |
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