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| 00:32 | <ickle> | hi all |
| 00:33 | <ickle> | is this the channel to discuss irc plan? |
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| 00:33 | <@caker> | ickle: hmm? |
| 00:33 | <ickle> | hmm? |
| 00:33 | <ickle> | i mean discuss irc hosting plan |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | this is the Linode virtual server community channel |
| 00:35 | <@caker> | you may use a Linode for irc, if that's what you're asking |
| 00:35 | <ickle> | do you get root access to it? |
| 00:36 | <ickle> | and can you let other people have access to it |
| 00:36 | <ickle> | thats a big thing for linking to networks |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | You get root access, and it works just like a physical installation of Linux, upon which you can install and configure anything you wish |
| 00:37 | <ickle> | can create other accounts as well? |
| 00:37 | <@caker> | see above comment :) |
| 00:37 | <mwalling> | adduser(8) |
| 00:38 | <ickle> | cool |
| 00:38 | <ickle> | does the virtual server slow down the bandwidth though? |
| 00:38 | <@caker> | nope |
| 00:39 | <ickle> | what kinda connection is it T1, OC-3, etc? |
| 00:39 | <@caker> | OFTC (the irc network this channel is on) has a few Linodes in service |
| 00:39 | <ickle> | i c cool |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | the datacenters have multiple gigabit links into many, many networks |
| 00:41 | <ickle> | thats cool |
| 00:42 | <ickle> | i dunno if the network linking to would allow it though, they said that only i must have access to the box and them, and it cant be shared like a shell |
| 00:43 | <ickle> | but with virtual server many ppl have access to the box, and run more stuff than just ircd, another rule is the server must only run ircd |
| 00:43 | <mwalling> | caker: what size nodes do oftc have? |
| 00:44 | <@caker> | a Linode *is* a server, upon which you can install only what you need, and create accounts on, etc. |
| 00:45 | <@caker> | mwalling: I sponsor them a few 360s .. I think only one of them is an actual node (or whatever it's called) .. the others are used for administrative purposes |
| 00:45 | <mwalling> | ickle: its not a quasi chroot like thing like other hosts have... its a full virtual machine... its like taking a box with n MB of ram, shipping it off to a data center, and calling it your own, but a hella lot cheeper |
| 00:45 | <mwalling> | really... they fit on a 360? |
| 00:46 | <mwalling> | reading through freenodes stuff, i figured all ircds were memory whores |
| 00:46 | <mwalling> | must just be hyperion |
| 00:46 | <ickle> | oh |
| 00:47 | <ickle> | thanks for advice guys |
| 00:47 | <ickle> | i will look into linode some more |
| 00:48 | <mwalling> | caker: you got the home page for mtr bookmarked? |
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| 00:48 | <mwalling> | the debian package page doesnt link back to the homepage |
| 00:49 | * | mwalling is working on packaging it for slack |
| 00:49 | <@caker> | http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ ? |
| 00:49 | <mwalling> | spacetubes... if its not on the first google page, i give up :) |
| 00:50 | <@caker> | !google matt's traceroute |
| 00:50 | <@linbot> | caker: Search took 0.25 seconds: MTR: <http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/>;; WinMTR - 0.8: <http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/>;; mtr (My traceroute ) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtr_(My_traceroute)>; WinMTR free download. WinMTR is a Windows clone of popular Matt's ...: <http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Misc__Networking_Tools/WinMTR.html>;; Download WinMTR 0.8 (2 more messages) |
| 00:50 | <mwalling> | !google mtr |
| 00:50 | <@linbot> | mwalling: Search took 0.14 seconds: MTR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR>;; Mavalli Tiffin Room - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavalli_Tiffin_Room>;; Museum of Television and Radio: <http://www.mtr.org/>;; MTR: <http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/>;; Mountaineer Casino Racetrack and Resort: Upgrade Flash: <http://www.mtrgaming.com/>;; MTR: (1 more message) |
| 00:50 | <@caker> | yeah.. not so much :) |
| 00:50 | <@caker> | well, it's in there |
| 00:51 | <@caker> | !calc What's the answer to life, the universe and everything? |
| 00:51 | <@linbot> | caker: the answer to life, the universe and everything = 42 |
| 00:51 | <mwalling> | calc using the google plugin? |
| 00:51 | <@caker> | yes .. after I fixed its regex (google changed their htmlz) |
| 00:52 | * | mwalling grumbles about soap api keys |
| 00:53 | <@caker> | !calc square root of 123,456,789? |
| 00:53 | <@linbot> | caker: square root(123,456,789) = 11,111.1111 |
| 00:53 | <mwalling> | heh... freenode/#postfix just got /part message spammed |
| 00:54 | <scorche`> | !calc square root of 9999999999999999999 |
| 00:54 | <@linbot> | scorche`: square root(9,999,999,999,999,999,999) = 3.16227766 * 10^(9) |
| 00:54 | -!- | scorche` is now known as scorche |
| 00:55 | <scorche> | !calc square root of 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 |
| 00:55 | <@linbot> | scorche: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 00:55 | <mwalling> | !calc size of mikegrb's ego |
| 00:55 | <@linbot> | mwalling: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 00:55 | <praetorian> | !calc 1/0 |
| 00:55 | <@linbot> | praetorian: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 00:56 | <mwalling> | !cyborg [calc What's the answer to life, the universe and everything?] |
| 00:57 | <praetorian> | !calc linode 720 * 2 |
| 00:57 | <@linbot> | praetorian: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 00:57 | <praetorian> | :-p |
| 01:00 | <@caker> | !calc 20GB / 128k/sec |
| 01:00 | <@linbot> | caker: (((20 GB) / 128) * k) / sec = 2.31634683 * 10^(-15) m^(2) kg s^(-3) K^(-1) Bytes |
| 01:00 | <@caker> | !calc 20GB / 10mbit/sec |
| 01:00 | <@linbot> | caker: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything. |
| 01:01 | <@caker> | !calc 2GB / 10MB/sec |
| 01:01 | <@linbot> | caker: (2 GB) / (10 (MB / sec)) = 3.41333333 minutes |
| 01:02 | <@caker> | !calc 1 usd in euro |
| 01:02 | <@linbot> | caker: 1 U.S. dollar = 0.686059276 Euros |
| 01:02 | <mwalling> | !calc 1337 seconds in days |
| 01:02 | <@linbot> | mwalling: 1,337 seconds = 0.015474537 days |
| 01:03 | <mwalling> | ^^handy for converting ttl values |
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| 09:07 | <zeroday> | caker, the window close first last command did work, but I didnt realize because there were so many windows open, and it looked like none closed |
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| 10:30 | <cruxeternus> | zeroday: Next time, try not to tick off a botnet owner :P |
| 10:31 | <zeroday> | well he was flooding the channel, and I only had kick power, so I kicked a few for the lulz |
| 10:31 | <cruxeternus> | Oh... pure trollage. Hate that. :/ |
| 10:32 | <zeroday> | didnt manage to get me offline |
| 10:32 | <zeroday> | was also ping flooding me along with the pms |
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| 12:27 | <chargrill> | oh man. having a new job plus a pretty pregnant wife makes it a little tough to find time to migrate my stuff over to my poor, lonely linode. :-/ |
| 12:30 | <fo0bar> | obviously your priorities are wrong |
| 12:32 | <chargrill> | i think that goes without saying! :) |
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| 12:58 | <@caker> | http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9867657-39.html?tag=nefd.top |
| 12:58 | <@caker> | it was only a matter of time... |
| 13:04 | <mwalling> | you guys still going to run buntu on the hosts then? |
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| 13:15 | <@caker> | we do run ubuntu on the host, but what any distro provides wouldn't really influence our choice of virtualization, as we'd always be building the stuff ourselves |
| 13:15 | <iggy> | just because they picked kvm as the default, doesn't mean you CAN'T run ubuntu with xen |
| 13:18 | <@caker> | wow: http://kraxel.fedorapeople.org/xenner/ |
| 13:18 | <@caker> | (run domU Xen kernels on top of KVM) |
| 13:18 | <@caker> | meaning, no Xen hypervisor! :> |
| 13:40 | <avongauss> | ever try using a "kvm based" host? kvm being full virt should be able to run anything, but not sure how |
| 13:40 | <avongauss> | the performance would be with many guests. although it does have the beginnings of para-virt support... |
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| 14:12 | <@caker> | avongauss: I have, yes -- albeit early on (kvm 20s or so). I wasn't very successful |
| 14:14 | <avongauss> | was just curious, haven't tried it myself, just always thought of kvm as virt for the desktop. |
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| 16:17 | <sakaal> | victory |
| 16:17 | <sakaal> | although i would have never thought it took that long. i'm getting old. |
| 16:18 | * | sakaal ponders after successfully deploying his first EAR on a linode. |
| 16:20 | <sakaal> | tomorrow i'll configure the ldpas and JPA realms... and then create some new killer app and live happily everafter. |
| 16:20 | <fo0bar> | caker: are you running ubuntu LTS? |
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| 16:43 | <@caker> | fo0bar: yes |
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| 16:47 | <iisca> | im zen 360, I want to upgrade to 540 - how do I do this? |
| 16:47 | <iisca> | sorry Xen 360 |
| 16:47 | <iisca> | in dallas. |
| 16:48 | <iisca> | ah looks like i have to open a support ticket |
| 16:48 | <sakaal> | they usually respond here within 15 mins, sometimes more |
| 16:49 | <sakaal> | but ticket is still a good idea |
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| 16:51 | <iisca> | k thx, i just submitted ticket. |
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| 16:56 | <iisca> | im putting monit on my box (ubuntu 7.10) - lookin at putting it in /etc/inittab. if I put an entry for it in here, I should not have a script in /etc/init.d correct? |
| 16:57 | <iisca> | entries in /etc/inittab start stuff and make sure they are restarted if they crash right? |
| 16:59 | <sakaal> | i'm not sure if inittab is supposed to be edited manually, but i'm not very familiar with ubuntu |
| 16:59 | <sakaal> | well i guess you can do it |
| 17:02 | <iisca> | sakaal: yea thats what im trying to figure out: http://www.tildeslash.com/monit/doc/manual.php#init_support |
| 17:02 | <iisca> | i have an init.d script for monit, but if monit its self dies, im SOL i think. thats why I was looking down the inittab path. |
| 17:02 | <sakaal> | i am using debian with my linode, and been inactive with hands-on linux configs several years, so im a bit rusty :p |
| 17:03 | <sakaal> | some ppl on the web are saying they dont have inittab on 7.10 |
| 17:04 | <sakaal> | they say ubuntu is using upstart instead |
| 17:05 | <iisca> | yea ubuntu does use upstart as far as i know - but there is a /etc/inittab (im lookin at it now) |
| 17:06 | <sakaal> | hehe ok, then you are probably better off with advice from the web :) |
| 17:06 | <sakaal> | you probably already know more than i |
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| 17:07 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:07 | <iisca> | lol, not sure about that. i know 0 about upstart. i think i need to do some more readin |
| 17:07 | <sakaal> | k |
| 17:08 | <sakaal> | i should get back to integrating my EAR with a Geronimo LDAPS security realm |
| 17:08 | <erikh> | what's an EAR in this context? |
| 17:08 | <erikh> | I have two, but I assume you're not talking about that. |
| 17:08 | <sakaal> | enterprise application archive |
| 17:08 | <erikh> | ah |
| 17:08 | <viniciusfs> | anyone hosting python web sites on linodes? |
| 17:08 | <sakaal> | see Java EE |
| 17:08 | <erikh> | ugh |
| 17:09 | * | erikh will pass |
| 17:09 | <sakaal> | I'm better with the higher-abstraction stuff. only know enough sysadmin stuff to get along with my Java EE architectures |
| 17:10 | <erikh> | me too. I just detest java. :) |
| 17:10 | <sakaal> | nice :) |
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| 17:25 | <fake_> | how do i mount my other disk images in ubuntu |
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| 18:35 | <cruxeternus> | Anyone know if Finnix is supposed to be working on a Xen Linode, or it it's broken? |
| 18:35 | <cruxeternus> | if* |
| 18:37 | <@caker> | It needs an update |
| 18:37 | * | caker whistles innocently |
| 18:37 | <fake_> | ugh installing zimbra is a nightmare |
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| 18:43 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 18:43 | <zeroday> | lol, I just found out I can use ssh as a http proxy |
| 18:48 | <fake_> | ah it helps to always have all the dependencies installed |
| 18:48 | <fake_> | before you bitch about a product :p |
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| 20:01 | <fake_> | anyone familiar with spf |
| 20:02 | <guinea-pig> | like, sunscreen ratings? |
| 20:02 | <guinea-pig> | :P |
| 20:02 | <fake_> | nah like email spam |
| 20:03 | <guinea-pig> | nope. sorry |
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| 20:17 | <viniciusfs> | hi all |
| 20:18 | <fake_> | how often are zones regenerated |
| 20:19 | <JDLSpeedy> | i think every 15 minutes |
| 20:19 | <fake_> | k |
| 20:19 | <JDLSpeedy> | from the DNS Manager it self "Zones that require generation, activation/deactivation or deletion are done so every 15 minutes." |
| 20:20 | <viniciusfs> | i'm moving my website from dreamhost to my linode |
| 20:20 | <viniciusfs> | any tip about dns setup? |
| 20:21 | <viniciusfs> | apache, mysql and php are OK on my linode, i think the last step is dns, but i dont known much about it |
| 20:21 | <JDLSpeedy> | required things to at lease get things going, setup A record and a MX record |
| 20:21 | <JDLSpeedy> | what about email? |
| 20:21 | <viniciusfs> | i dont use, not yet |
| 20:22 | <JDLSpeedy> | oo, ok |
| 20:22 | <viniciusfs> | later i will setup a smtp server |
| 20:22 | <JDLSpeedy> | then just an A record |
| 20:22 | <viniciusfs> | so, i need a dns server (like bind) running on my linode? |
| 20:23 | <JDLSpeedy> | Linode has its own DNS server you can use |
| 20:23 | <JDLSpeedy> | if you login to the Linode, theres a DNS Manager |
| 20:23 | <viniciusfs> | nice, i'll try now |
| 20:23 | <JDLSpeedy> | just use nameservers ns1.linode.com ns2.linode.com to ur domain |
| 20:24 | <viniciusfs> | ok, thanks! |
| 20:25 | <viniciusfs> | what is SOA address? |
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| 20:46 | <JDLSpeedy> | your email address |
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| 21:27 | <viniciusfs> | thanks |
| 21:31 | <viniciusfs> | my domain still redirecting to dreamhost, now i just need to wait until dns chance propagates |
| 21:32 | <JDLSpeedy> | yep, you can see changes now till 24-48 hours |
| 21:33 | <viniciusfs> | another dumb question |
| 21:33 | <viniciusfs> | my apache run as www-data |
| 21:33 | <JDLSpeedy> | nothing is a dumb question |
| 21:34 | <viniciusfs> | so, www-data user/group needs to have permission on my website folders, right? |
| 21:34 | <JDLSpeedy> | yes |
| 21:36 | <viniciusfs> | my document root folder is /home/vinicius/public_html, i've set up permissions to user vinicius, group www-data |
| 21:37 | <JDLSpeedy> | oo, why you hosting your website in your user public folder? |
| 21:38 | <viniciusfs> | that's a good question hehe |
| 21:38 | <JDLSpeedy> | do something like /home/website |
| 21:38 | <JDLSpeedy> | or something like that |
| 21:38 | <JDLSpeedy> | not in your user directory |
| 21:38 | <viniciusfs> | i did /home/vinicius/public_html/domain1.com, /home/vinicius/public_html/domain2.com, etc... |
| 21:39 | <JDLSpeedy> | /home/vinicius is your home directory, correct? |
| 21:39 | <viniciusfs> | yes |
| 21:39 | <viniciusfs> | i've set up my ftp server to chroot all users on theirs home directory |
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| 22:16 | <chargrill> | grr! why can't i install this silly little perl module from cpan with dh-make-perl on my ... debian image? |
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| 22:31 | <guinea-pig> | chargrill: ... why can't you? |
| 22:32 | <chargrill> | dunno. first problem was a file named #filename# didn't get extracted, so a test was failing. |
| 22:32 | <chargrill> | then dh-make-perl had issues with readme's not existing. |
| 22:32 | <chargrill> | i finally gave up and installed it via the cpan shell. |
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| 23:07 | <guinea-pig> | weird. what module? |
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