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| 00:01 | <@caker> | Aero187: thanks... |
| 00:01 | <Aero187> | =) |
| 00:01 | <Aero187> | no prob |
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| 00:08 | <mwalling> | !dns mail.markwalling.org |
| 00:09 | <mwalling> | crap... i broke linbot |
| 00:09 | <mwalling> | !rr |
| 00:09 | <@linbot> | mwalling: *click* |
| 00:09 | <mwalling> | !dns mail.markwalling.org |
| 00:09 | <@linbot> | mwalling: Host not found. |
| 00:10 | * | mwalling gets pissy |
| 00:10 | <@linbot> | mwalling: Host not found. |
| 00:12 | <mwalling> | !dns markwalling.org |
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| 00:13 | <@linbot> | mwalling: Host not found. |
| 00:13 | <JT> | Hey, I'm thinking about getting hosting with linode, but I'm not sure I can configure everything because every host I've had before already had apache, mysql, etc installed |
| 00:14 | <JT> | How difficult is it? |
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| 00:14 | <mwalling> | ever used linux before? |
| 00:15 | <JT> | A little bit, but never to install things on it. I've operated in the environment, but never changed it at all |
| 00:17 | <JT> | also, does linode offer an option for a wildcard dns entry? |
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| 00:27 | <@caker> | JT: there is wildcard support, yes |
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| 00:28 | <Aero187> | caker: is there a host that i can test for response times in dallas? |
| 00:30 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 <-- Aero187 |
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| 00:30 | <Aero187> | thanks =) |
| 00:32 | <iggy> | JT: it's not too tough to get everything installed and configured |
| 00:32 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Questions about hosting in Sales Questions and Answers <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3090>; |
| 00:33 | <iggy> | especially if you use a common distro like fedora, debian, ubuntu, etc... they have a wealth of online documentation |
| 00:33 | <iggy> | and you are always welcome to ask questions in here |
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| 01:27 | <hatim> | hello people, i am prospecive buyer of service |
| 01:29 | <iggy> | you have questions? |
| 01:32 | <hatim> | website says, on anual payments one gets extra space |
| 01:32 | <hatim> | how much space are we talking about |
| 01:34 | <precana> | Hello, does anybody know if there is something wrong with host57 (fremont)? |
| 01:35 | <arooni-mobile> | how can i learn from the command line where my biggest files are? i only have 8MB left :( |
| 01:37 | <iggy> | hatim: 50% extra space last I heard |
| 01:37 | <bd__> | hatim: 50% extra |
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| 01:37 | <hatim> | so, 15 gb on 10gb account |
| 01:37 | <hatim> | not bad |
| 01:38 | <iggy> | precana: it doesn't ping for me, maybe open a ticket |
| 01:38 | <iggy> | it'll page the admins |
| 01:38 | <hatim> | i would prefer a 10% money back though |
| 01:38 | <hatim> | like slicehost |
| 01:38 | <bd_> | hilight caker :) |
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| 01:39 | <iggy> | hatim: you can always ask, but I've never heard of them doing anything like that |
| 01:39 | <precana> | iggy: thank you, I will do that. It's gone off a few times in the last couple of hours. |
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| 01:39 | <hatim> | iggy, you are a customer i suppose |
| 01:39 | <iggy> | I am |
| 01:40 | <hatim> | can you tell me some thing you dont like about their service, some thing which i need to watch out for |
| 01:40 | <hatim> | i dont find any catch on paper |
| 01:40 | <iggy> | nothing anymore |
| 01:41 | <hatim> | what was it before? |
| 01:41 | <iggy> | back when memory limits were lower, people that didn't know what they were doing would run into swap and thrash the disks |
| 01:41 | <bd_> | precana: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3089 that was a few hours ago though |
| 01:42 | <bd_> | iggy: was the io limiter not in at that time? |
| 01:43 | <iggy> | it was, but when you've got 50% of the users on a host hitting it, it still hurts things for everybody else |
| 01:43 | <iggy> | but like I said, it hasn't been a problem for a while |
| 01:43 | <hatim> | iggy, i guess this also depends upon your luck |
| 01:43 | <hatim> | if you get on a low traffic machine you are fine |
| 01:45 | <iggy> | when the low end was 64M, there were a lot of people thrashing |
| 01:45 | <iggy> | not really a whole lot of low traffic 64M hosts at the time |
| 01:46 | <bd_> | hatim: The atlanta DC has some blocked ports (including 6667 but not 6668)... I think there's a forum post with the list somewhere. The dallas DC has some ports blocked that few people will need (http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1167), and the fremont DC has no blocked ports (and also no machines available last I checked :) |
| 01:46 | <bd_> | you can put in a ticket to migrate if there's a problem with something like that though |
| 01:47 | <precana> | iggy: thanks, i just found that post. It's happened at least three times since then though. I have sent off a ticket. |
| 01:47 | <iggy> | or you can pick a different DC when you do the initial distro deployment |
| 01:47 | <bd_> | iggy: I thought you can only pick a DC when you create the linode, or by putting in a ticket (even if you have no disk images)? |
| 01:47 | <precana> | oops, meand bd_ |
| 01:47 | <iggy> | whatever |
| 01:47 | <hatim> | so how would i knwo which DC runs which distro? |
| 01:48 | <bd_> | hatim: all the DCs run whatever distro you want |
| 01:48 | <iggy> | at the beginning of your being a customer |
| 01:48 | <iggy> | don't know what step exactly |
| 01:48 | <bd_> | iggy: First time you login, you get a choice of DC before you go to the control panel |
| 01:48 | <iggy> | I signed up almost 4 years ago, so things were a little different |
| 01:48 | <hatim> | ahan |
| 01:49 | <hatim> | any one running J2EE apps here |
| 01:49 | <iggy> | there was someone talking about it earlier |
| 01:49 | <hatim> | cause that's my primary interest in gettting a VPS |
| 01:50 | <bd_> | hatim: anyway, there's images for arch linux 2007.08, centos 5.0, debian 4.0, fedora core 8, gentoo 2007.0, opensuse 10.3, slackware 12.0, ubuntu 7.10, and a few other older ones. |
| 01:50 | <hatim> | (to showcase my J2EE work) |
| 01:50 | <bd_> | If you know what you're doing you can set up something else |
| 01:50 | <iggy> | hatim: you shouldn't have any problems with that |
| 01:50 | <hatim> | bd_, well i would go with either gentoo or centos |
| 01:51 | <bd_> | note that gentoo is the biggest one (1800MiB), probably due to the portage tree and whatnot |
| 02:03 | <hatim> | bd_ I can use portage information from another server |
| 02:03 | <hatim> | and i wont be updating things that often |
| 02:04 | <hatim> | i would prefer ubuntu server over centos, but at the end of the day, clients don't run away if you say you are on (some thing close to) red hat |
| 02:05 | <bd_> | There's an ubuntu server option *shrug* It's all up to you though, really :) |
| 02:05 | <hatim> | ofcourse i set up the site you are all welcomed to get my services for projects |
| 02:06 | <hatim> | (we can do occasional non bot advertising here ..right?) |
| 02:06 | <hatim> | bd_, ubuntu server is just a non X stripped down version of Ubuntu |
| 02:08 | <bd_> | I know. I mean, there's an option in the distro wizard for starting with an ubuntu image. |
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| 04:32 | <fuzzie> | one linode was acting oddly [dying processes] on host57 and now the host seems to have disappeared, freezing problems again..? |
| 04:43 | <fuzzie> | oke, i guess you're all asleep, ticket opened :) |
| 04:43 | <Internat> | what is with host57 lately, failing hardware? |
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| 05:35 | <hatim> | hello people, any one from linode here? |
| 05:36 | <hatim> | i know its probably 3 in the morning in States, wonder if any one was able to process my order |
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| 05:41 | <juanf> | Does anyone know if host57.fremont.linode.com is down? I can't seem to access it. |
| 05:42 | <fuzzie> | juanf: it is down for me also, there's been a support ticket open for an hour now. |
| 05:42 | <fuzzie> | it's had two reboots in the last few days, so i guess the hardware is bad or something, i'm hoping they're busy trying to fix it/move the nodes.. |
| 05:43 | <juanf> | fuzzie: cool thanks for the info |
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| 05:43 | <Remethep> | Hello. our server i down... Am I the only one with this problem right now? |
| 05:44 | <fuzzie> | Remethep: if it's on host57, it seems down for all of us |
| 05:44 | <Remethep> | kk |
| 05:44 | <juanf> | remethep: mine is down also |
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| 05:45 | <quanin> | both of mine are still up. of course that will probably change once they actually become production ready. |
| 05:46 | <fuzzie> | my primary linode has never had any troubles in its whole history, but somehow linodes of customers/friends seem to be a bit more cursed :) |
| 05:47 | <quanin> | the only time mine have ever gone down was when i've either royally fubared something or swapped out the OS. |
| 05:47 | <LinodeJavaUser> | Hey all |
| 05:47 | -!- | LinodeJavaUser is now known as Quadlex |
| 05:48 | <quanin> | and occasionally, just for kicks, i'll do both. |
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| 05:49 | <Quadlex> | Today I was planning a fun, productive day of configuring my Lindoe |
| 05:49 | <Quadlex> | *Linode |
| 05:49 | <Quadlex> | Instead, I discovered my workplace proxy prevents me getting SSH access |
| 05:50 | <quanin> | that's why webmin exists. :) |
| 05:51 | <Quadlex> | Webmin would be GREAT! If I didn't have a fresh new install of Gentoo-2007.0 |
| 05:51 | <hatim> | Quadlex, well you can make your linode as such that it can communicate on ssh via known web ports |
| 05:51 | * | hatim is still waiting for my order to be processed |
| 05:51 | <quanin> | Quadlex: that actually makes it uber easy. |
| 05:52 | <Internat> | Quadlex: run ssh on port 443 and ull be fine |
| 05:53 | <quanin> | i had webmin installed on both my gentoo nodes before it was halfway through the update process. |
| 05:53 | <Internat> | most/all companies ive worked at allow 443 out of the proxy |
| 05:53 | <Internat> | so tunnel ssh over it |
| 05:53 | <Quadlex> | I know not much about proxy-fu |
| 05:53 | <Internat> | if u use 80 they try to use the proxy/cache for the data. 443 because its secure http they cant |
| 05:53 | <encode> | heh. i've worked at one place that it doesn't work. my current job apparently |
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| 05:54 | <Quadlex> | But if we're using a non-SOCKS proxy, won't I need a proxy on my work localhost, so I can wrap SSL packets in HTTP? |
| 05:54 | <Internat> | i use putty and it works fine |
| 05:54 | <encode> | cos they require some funky version of NTLM auth for the proxy |
| 05:54 | <fuzzie> | ssh on port 443 is lovely until you need the darn https port and have to play silly games with portknocking/firewall rules/etc :/ |
| 05:54 | <Internat> | nope |
| 05:54 | <quanin> | Internat: if it's a windows based proxy they probably have it set up to forward IE from some other port to 443. |
| 05:54 | <encode> | and i can't find anything to get through it |
| 05:54 | <Internat> | eh? |
| 05:54 | <Internat> | that makes no sesne |
| 05:54 | <hatim> | how much time does it take to prcess order |
| 05:54 | <Internat> | i just use putty, configure my HTTP proxy in it, connect to port 443 on my linode and im good |
| 05:54 | <hatim> | normally? |
| 05:54 | <encode> | it somehow works with a web browser, but nothing else |
| 05:55 | <fuzzie> | hatim: very quickly, but within US daytimes |
| 05:55 | <Internat> | im yet to find a proxy that it wont go through |
| 05:55 | <encode> | Internat: yeah, that works every other place i've been at |
| 05:55 | <hatim> | arghhh |
| 05:55 | <hatim> | so it means i have to wait for another 6 hours |
| 05:55 | <encode> | Internat: i get errors relating to authentication |
| 05:55 | <encode> | im not fussed about it though |
| 05:55 | <Internat> | is that cause u ahve to auth to ur proxy? |
| 05:55 | <encode> | yes |
| 05:55 | <quanin> | nope, probably just another 3 or 4. depends where they're locating your linode. |
| 05:56 | <encode> | and the standard ntlm auth just won't play ball |
| 05:56 | <Internat> | u using putty? |
| 05:56 | <hatim> | well i have not been asked where it would be placed |
| 05:56 | <Internat> | ive had issues with other clients, but i find that putty works perfectly over it |
| 05:56 | <hatim> | i just ordered for one month service, just to try it out |
| 05:57 | <Internat> | hatim: you get to select your DC when you first log in |
| 05:57 | <hatim> | besides my hosting plan from other place expires in few days |
| 05:57 | <hatim> | Internat, which one do you recommend |
| 05:57 | <hatim> | wont it also depend on my plan and the places letf in the DCs |
| 05:57 | <Internat> | whichever one gets you the best ping |
| 05:57 | <quanin> | if they don't give you the option then it's likely they only have spots available for your plan in one DC. and that's where you'll be. |
| 05:58 | <encode> | Internat: yep, putty |
| 05:58 | <encode> | tried various other similar apps too |
| 05:58 | <Internat> | :( |
| 05:58 | <quanin> | you do have the option to migrate to another datacenter though should room become available. just open a ticket for it. |
| 05:59 | <hatim> | well right now i am more concerned about my order getting processed |
| 05:59 | <hatim> | cause i have to install OS and migrate services |
| 06:00 | <quanin> | it's been a while, but i *think* you'll get an email when your linode's been set up. |
| 06:01 | <Internat> | they are asleep though so you may have to wait an hr or 3 for it to be processed |
| 06:01 | <quanin> | likely or 3. it's only 6:00 EST here. |
| 06:01 | <Internat> | actually caker mentioned the other day that ever order in the last month has been responded to within 1-2hrs |
| 06:01 | <Internat> | They may be busy dealing with Host57 though |
| 06:02 | <hatim> | ahan |
| 06:02 | <quanin> | the freemont hosts seem to be having a bit more issues than most lately. wasn't host72 having problems a bit ago? |
| 06:03 | <hatim> | how do you guys get all this info |
| 06:03 | <Internat> | considering the whole of atlanta was down for 8-12 hrs the other week |
| 06:03 | <Internat> | the forums |
| 06:03 | <Internat> | all the outage notifications are there |
| 06:03 | <hatim> | which host went down etc (i am presuming you are mostly users here ) |
| 06:03 | <quanin> | hatim: http://www.linode.com/forums |
| 06:03 | <hatim> | ahhh |
| 06:03 | <fuzzie> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=25 |
| 06:04 | <quanin> | if it involves a linode server or service, it goes there. and usually quickly. |
| 06:04 | <Internat> | linode publish all the outages.. public.. ive never heard of them hiding or attempting to hide an outage |
| 06:05 | <hatim> | caker, has been idle for 4:22 now |
| 06:05 | <quanin> | and so you're not checking the forums every 5 minutes for an update, linbot will speak up if someone posts to the forums. |
| 06:13 | <hatim> | any thing else taht can be done with linbot |
| 06:13 | <hatim> | ~linbot |
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| 06:20 | * | Quadlex hopes his Linode is set up soon |
| 06:21 | <Quadlex> | I'm planning to use it to store documents remotely... Scan all my bills and piss them off this server |
| 06:21 | <Quadlex> | Sorry, shred the originals and throw them out |
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| 06:32 | <KinetiX> | hi |
| 06:32 | <KinetiX> | if i buy a linux box..id doesen`t have linux installed right ? |
| 06:33 | <hatim> | ok i get a repsonse |
| 06:33 | <hatim> | they want me to send some sort of id |
| 06:34 | <KinetiX> | if i purchase a linux box via www.linode.com. does it have Linux installed on it ? |
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| 06:35 | <KinetiX> | ok..so if let`s say i don`t know to install linux on it can you guys do it ? |
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| 06:37 | <Internat> | no |
| 06:37 | <Internat> | its an unmanaged service, which means its up to you to do |
| 06:38 | <KinetiX> | oh |
| 06:38 | <KinetiX> | ok |
| 06:38 | <KinetiX> | thanks |
| 06:38 | <Internat> | the only people in this channel that are linode staff are the 3 people with @'s |
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| 06:39 | <Internat> | SpaceHobo: we should start an "admin your linode business" |
| 06:39 | <Internat> | yeah maybe |
| 06:40 | <Internat> | a 100point screening and aptitude test required for clients |
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| 06:40 | * | Internat superglues bdragon to his chair. |
| 06:40 | <Quadlex> | Internat: From there, we expand to Internet, then PC Licences |
| 06:40 | <Internat> | yep |
| 06:41 | <Internat> | lets licence the interwebs! |
| 06:41 | * | Quadlex hates to ask |
| 06:45 | <mikegrb> | hatim: took another look at your signup welcome aboard |
| 06:45 | <hatim> | ok, thanks |
| 06:47 | <hatim> | ok guys , Dallas or Atlanta |
| 06:47 | <hatim> | i now Atlanta bloks 6667 |
| 06:48 | <Internat> | Dallas ftw |
| 06:58 | <hatim> | does the DC have local yum and apt archives? |
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| 07:07 | <h00s> | !avail atlanta |
| 07:07 | <@linbot> | h00s: (linodeavail takes no arguments) -- Gets the availability of each Linode plan type optionally restricting the results to a specific datacenter. |
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| 07:12 | <SystemFAILURE> | Waiting for caker || tasaro for money questions |
| 07:13 | <h00s> | me too :) |
| 07:13 | <SystemFAILURE> | h00s: gh |
| 07:13 | <praetorian> | i dont mind money. im happy to take it off your hands *:)* |
| 07:14 | <h00s> | heh |
| 07:17 | <h00s> | i forget have to check availability for particular dc. help? :) |
| 07:18 | <SystemFAILURE> | h00s: #define dc ? |
| 07:18 | <h00s> | atlanta |
| 07:18 | <SystemFAILURE> | mmh i cannot understand what u are looking for |
| 07:18 | <quanin> | he wants to know how to find out how many of a particular plan a datacenter has room for. |
| 07:19 | <h00s> | exactly, thank you quanin |
| 07:19 | <quanin> | and i have no idea. |
| 07:19 | <Hobbsee> | !avail-atlanta |
| 07:20 | <@linbot> | Hobbsee: Atlanta360 - 0, Atlanta540 - 15, Atlanta720 - 5, Atlanta1080 - 7, Atlanta1440 - 7 |
| 07:20 | <Hobbsee> | h00s: ^ |
| 07:20 | <SystemFAILURE> | :P |
| 07:20 | <h00s> | Hobbsee: ty! |
| 07:20 | <Hobbsee> | you're welcome |
| 07:20 | <quanin> | atm i'm trying to determine if a linode 360 will fall over if i start offloading my mail trafic to it. |
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| 07:24 | <quanin> | anyone here running a mail server on their box, and how hammered does it get during peek hours? |
| 07:29 | <juanf> | quantin: yes / not very (it's just for my personal use though) |
| 07:30 | <quanin> | that's all this one would be too. biggest problem would probably be a spam bombardment, but i think i can cut about 95% of that out. |
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| 07:33 | <fuzzie> | i ran a quite heavily-used mailserver on a linode 64, and it coped fine, so i imagine a 360 isn't going to struggle |
| 07:33 | <quanin> | define heavily used. |
| 07:34 | <fuzzie> | averaging thousands of emails a day [mostly spam] for each of 50+ users |
| 07:34 | <mikegrb> | lolz |
| 07:34 | <quanin> | damn. okay i'm not concerned. lol |
| 07:34 | <fuzzie> | so that included filtering etc (although not spamassassin, which slaughtered linode 64s) |
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| 07:35 | <fuzzie> | nowadays i try and get other people to run my mail, it is too much hassle :) |
| 07:35 | <quanin> | i was thinking about going with spamassassin. either that or see what clamav had instead. |
| 07:35 | <fuzzie> | actually i'm trying to get other people to run everything, but then their test linodes end up on host57 and our tests don't go quite so well with a downed host ;p |
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| 07:37 | <juanf> | quantin: judicious use of RBLs cuts out a fair amount of spam before it's a problem. even a 1000 mails a day is still less than one a minute - you won't see much impact on your system. |
| 07:37 | <juanf> | quanin: sorry, not quanTin :) |
| 07:38 | <quanin> | if you saw the list of plugins, add-ons and settings modifications i was in the process of making to make use of those among others, you'd probably cry. |
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| 07:39 | <quanin> | i'm just looking for post-RBL options. just in case they don't catch all the hotmail/gmail spam. |
| 07:40 | <elwood> | you'll never catch all the spam |
| 07:40 | <quanin> | true. but every little bit helps. |
| 07:42 | <elwood> | I guess it depends on your fase positives rate |
| 07:43 | <quanin> | right now i'm just dealing with false negatives. i can handle false positives on a case by case basis. |
| 07:44 | <quanin> | anywho. if a 360 can't handle spamassassin without choking, possible alternatives? |
| 07:47 | <mikegrb> | we use a linode 360 with amavis/spam assassin for fetchmail -> imap server |
| 07:48 | <juanf> | hmmm, host57.freemont seems to be pinging again |
| 07:49 | <SystemFAILURE> | mikegrb: are u in the Linode staff ? |
| 07:49 | <juanf> | (or did I speak too soon... bah!) |
| 07:50 | <quanin> | would it fall sideways if i threw postfix in there? |
| 07:50 | <elwood> | it looks loike to soon. I'm on 57 as well |
| 07:50 | <juanf> | elwood: well it was pinging a minute or two ago |
| 07:50 | <juanf> | elwood: stopped now |
| 07:50 | <juanf> | quanin: no, i use postfix on a number of linodes - it's fine. |
| 07:53 | <quanin> | thought so, but wanted to double check. serverloads tend to go above 2 or 3 easy when stuff's getting compiled so... |
| 07:56 | <hatim> | at one time i can run only one OS right? |
| 07:56 | <mwalling> | hatim: yeah |
| 07:56 | <mwalling> | you can only boot one kernel image |
| 07:57 | <elwood> | juanf: what's the deal with host57 anyway? we talkig ddos or unknown snafu? |
| 07:57 | <juanf> | elwood: https://www.linode.com/support/ticket_view.cfm?tid=36391 |
| 07:58 | <juanf> | elwood: i think it's a hardware issue |
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| 08:00 | <elwood> | juanf: I think you ticket is someway private, I get a terse aceess violation warning... but I think all but 2 of my users are asleep so time is not off the essence |
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| 08:01 | <Karnaugh> | other people can't view tickets |
| 08:02 | <elwood> | thought as much |
| 08:02 | <SystemFAILURE> | Karnaugh: exactly |
| 08:02 | <fuzzie> | "This machine is experiencing problems. We are working to stabilize the host and will most likely be migrating you to a brand new host." is the reply i've seen re: host57 |
| 08:05 | <juanf> | elwood: ah sorry, yep, what fuzzie said is what I got too. |
| 08:06 | <elwood> | damn. i shouldn't have written that blog entry about keeping a set of DOS floppies around just to scare misbehaving tech into cooperating |
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| 08:13 | <juanf> | ok, host57 pinging right now... fingers crossed |
| 08:13 | <SystemFAILURE> | -.- |
| 08:14 | <quanin> | and because you said that, it'll die again. |
| 08:15 | <juanf> | Nooo... was watching my linode boot up only for it to be shut down... |
| 08:16 | <quanin> | not to say i told you so or anything but... ;) |
| 08:16 | <juanf> | Ah sod this. I'm off to eat some left over pancakes. Watched kettles never boiling and all that :) |
| 08:17 | <quanin> | good thing i have today off. i'm nowhere near motivated enough to actually pull off configuring apache in 20 minutes. |
| 08:21 | * | elwood goes hunting for leftover food and coffee |
| 08:22 | <SystemFAILURE> | Ma non c'e' proprio nessun italiano qua eh .. Vabbe' :( |
| 08:22 | * | quanin just hopes neither of his boxes take a nose dive before he's done setting them up. |
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| 08:37 | <greco> | caker: admins: whoever :) i'm still seeing problems with the linode wiki full-text search. it never returns any results. |
| 08:37 | <greco> | example : http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Search?ns0=1&ns4=1&search=server&searchx=Search |
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| 09:42 | <Bdragon> | Internat: It apparently worked. |
| 09:42 | <mwalling_> | Bdragon: i'm getting rid of spacetubes!!!! |
| 09:43 | <Bdragon> | Awww, now I won't have anyone to gripe about my spacetubes with! |
| 09:43 | <Bdragon> | :P |
| 09:43 | <mwalling_> | getting time warner instead... |
| 09:44 | <mwalling_> | but atleast my pings will go down |
| 10:20 | <@caker> | 05:49 < Quadlex> Instead, I discovered my workplace proxy prevents me getting SSH access |
| 10:20 | <@caker> | for what it's worth -- Lish is open on 22, 443, and 2200 |
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| 10:44 | <warewolf_> | 3/nick waerwolf |
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| 10:44 | <warewolf> | mtfnpy. |
| 10:47 | <sakaal> | ääkköset |
| 10:49 | <anderiv> | sakaal: you don't say. |
| 10:50 | <anderiv> | :-) |
| 10:50 | <sakaal> | no need to separately configure charset anymore these days |
| 10:51 | <sakaal> | just got my screen + bitchx up. and btw also managed to integrate apache geronimo with standalone apacheds secure ldap |
| 10:53 | <sakaal> | that took a couple days and i had to manually tweak the server jvm to have it recognize my trusted CAs. they have like completely forgotten that feature in geronimo ldap security realms... |
| 10:54 | <sakaal> | anywayz, is now up and running happily |
| 10:56 | <zeroday> | I made some mx changes to a domain in the morning, how long before linode ns' update? |
| 10:56 | <zeroday> | its nearly 4 in the afternoon now |
| 10:56 | <@caker> | zeroday: 15 minutes at the nameservers, at least |
| 10:56 | <@caker> | zeroday: have you queried them directly to see if the changes are theer? |
| 10:57 | <zeroday> | how do I do that? |
| 10:57 | <@caker> | dig @ns1.linode.com domain.com mx |
| 10:57 | <zeroday> | yep, its there |
| 10:58 | <zeroday> | but when I try to send an email, postfix thinks its hosting the accounts |
| 10:58 | <zeroday> | im using google apps |
| 10:59 | <zeroday> | google instructions for mx said the ttl should be the highest possible, could that be the problem? |
| 11:21 | <mwalling_> | does postfix think its hosting the accounts? ($mydestination) |
| 11:21 | <mwalling_> | zeroday: 11:21 < knoba> mwalling_: "soft_bounce" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing |
| 11:21 | <mwalling_> | 5xx reply codes into 4xx. owever, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing tmistakes. |
| 11:22 | <zeroday> | I tried again, this time I got a different error:mail for domain.com loops back to myself |
| 11:24 | <zeroday> | I can send email from other email a/c not on my linode |
| 11:24 | <zeroday> | I think the problem is my linode dns isnt updated |
| 11:25 | <zeroday> | when I do dig -t mx domain.com, it shows the old value |
| 11:25 | <JDLSpeedy> | does linode support unionfs? |
| 11:26 | <JDLSpeedy> | linode kernels* |
| 11:27 | <h00s> | caker: sorry for bothering you again about this, but i got some informations from my bank. after talking to dozens people over there, they confirmed to me that ocurred some human error and therefore transactions have been declined. they also told me that yesterday, 40$ transaction (for the new L720) went thru and i shouldn't have problem with that in the future. so, what next? should i go again thru process of adding another linode or? |
| 11:28 | <mwalling_> | zeroday: yeah, you need to wait for dns to settle down... either by softbouncing your email (what graylisting uses), in the hopes that when the server tries next the dns is updated, or by accepting mail for that domain on postfix, and then relaying that to google |
| 11:29 | <zeroday> | I think I will just wait for now, it more of annoyance then a problem |
| 11:30 | <zeroday> | I can send and receive emails from in the google hosted email account |
| 11:30 | <@caker> | h00s: did you get your money back that was in the void? |
| 11:30 | <@caker> | h00s: if they say you won't have any more problems, go ahead and try adding another Linode |
| 11:31 | <h00s> | caker: i didn't get money back. they told me they completed the transaction and the money went to you. |
| 11:31 | <@caker> | h00s: ... |
| 11:32 | <@caker> | h00s: I'll check again, but I don't think that's possible. The transaction was declined, and its status won't change after that... |
| 11:32 | <h00s> | caker: ok, no big deal. i will try again add new linode and will see from there. thank you again and sorry for all the mess |
| 11:35 | <h00s> | caker: it worked! damn i'm happy now :) |
| 11:39 | <@caker> | nice |
| 11:49 | <zeroday> | how long do linodes thats use ns1.linode.com, etc, take before they refresh their list? |
| 11:50 | <@caker> | linodes don't use ns1.linode.com directly (as in resolv.conf) -- it's an authoritative nameserver only |
| 11:50 | <zeroday> | Im just wandering whats taking my linode to update |
| 11:50 | <zeroday> | * so long |
| 11:50 | <mwalling_> | zeroday: what was your old TTL? |
| 11:50 | <mwalling_> | (dig a nameserver that has the old value) |
| 11:50 | <@caker> | but, nameservers go by the TTL of the zone, and of the individual records within the version of the zone it has |
| 11:51 | <zeroday> | hmm...I just did a dig, and the mx record has disappear |
| 11:51 | <zeroday> | * ed |
| 11:51 | <zeroday> | it was the default before |
| 11:52 | <zeroday> | google instructions said to use the highest possible ttl,even then, everything apart from my linode has updated |
| 11:52 | <mwalling_> | what does `dig @ns.that.has.old.entry your.domain.tld MX` say? |
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| 11:55 | <JDLSpeedy> | caker: sorry, i don't think i got the answer, linode kernels support unionfs? |
| 11:56 | <@caker> | JDLSpeedy: through FUSE, yes |
| 11:56 | <JDLSpeedy> | oo, ok |
| 11:56 | <JDLSpeedy> | thanks |
| 11:57 | <@caker> | np |
| 11:58 | <zeroday> | mwalling_, I tried my old host ns', they've updated aswell |
| 11:58 | <@caker> | zeroday: do the dig for each nameserver listed in your resolv.conf, lemme know which one has the old data, please |
| 12:01 | <zeroday> | caker, 67.18.92.7 |
| 12:02 | <zeroday> | mwalling_ domain.com 6874 IN MX 10 mail.domain.com |
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| 12:02 | <mwalling_> | just under 2 hours TTL |
| 12:02 | <zeroday> | good/bad? |
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| 12:03 | <@caker> | zeroday: try now |
| 12:03 | <zeroday> | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 12:04 | <@caker> | ... one more time |
| 12:04 | <zeroday> | yay, its there |
| 12:05 | <zeroday> | but a simple dig domain.com doesnt show it |
| 12:05 | <zeroday> | only with the @ns.... |
| 12:09 | <zeroday> | caker, the emails work now, thanks a lot |
| 12:10 | <@caker> | good good |
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| 12:26 | <moe> | hey |
| 12:26 | <moe> | caker, u active? |
| 12:26 | <@caker> | yup |
| 12:26 | <moe> | ideal |
| 12:26 | <moe> | you still selling DirectAdmin |
| 12:26 | <moe> | licences? |
| 12:27 | <@caker> | No, but I believe you can still get our discount if you tell them our client number (which is 302) |
| 12:27 | <@caker> | I think it's $5/month, and they can charge you directly for it |
| 12:27 | <moe> | yeh ive tried that but where do you put the client number? |
| 12:27 | <@caker> | I think you need to email them |
| 12:28 | <moe> | ok |
| 12:28 | <rawb2> | just a quick question before i sign up - are the arch/ubuntu installs minimal or do they come with extras such as apache/mail/etc? i prefer the former (a base install). |
| 12:28 | <@caker> | rawb2: hello -- they're barebones |
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| 13:29 | <moe> | hey |
| 13:29 | <moe> | caker: u there? i just got an email back from DA |
| 13:29 | <@caker> | ok -- and? |
| 13:29 | <moe> | If your VPS company has a partner account with us then they can order licenses cheaper and pass on the savings to you. But they would have to order it, not you. If you wanted a license from us, one in your own name, then you could do that but the cost would probably be higher: http://www.directadmin.com/pricing.html |
| 13:30 | <moe> | said tht |
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| 13:31 | <@caker> | moe: lame |
| 13:32 | <moe> | yeh i know |
| 13:32 | <moe> | any ideas of what i could do? |
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| 13:32 | <Rifkin> | so, any post-mortem on host57? |
| 13:32 | <@caker> | moe: you'll need to get a license from them, then |
| 13:33 | <moe> | ok |
| 13:33 | <@caker> | Rifkin: yes, it's dying, and we're migrating everyone off to a new, much, much faster host |
| 13:33 | <Rifkin> | is there anything I need to take care of now that I've been moved? |
| 13:33 | <@caker> | nope |
| 13:33 | <Rifkin> | great |
| 13:34 | <Rifkin> | by post-mortem I meant, do you know why it died, or are you trying to find out... or is it just, "it died, we don't really care now because everyone has been moved off of it" |
| 13:35 | <@caker> | well, .. it powers itself off -- so either a bad PSU or something wrong with power management |
| 13:35 | <@caker> | (can tell from the amperage draw on the RPC) |
| 13:35 | <Rifkin> | there was something funny going on with the load too... it seemed to get slower and slower |
| 13:35 | <@caker> | most likely everyone booting up after each of the 5 times it went down last night |
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| 13:49 | <@tasaro> | Rifkin: You'll want to connect to the new host for Lish |
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| 13:53 | <tozz> | anyone here using Xen? I'm gonna start on a project where I will be doing a lot of image manipulation (gd or im) and was wondering if I might get a speed benefit from going to Xen. Will be running on Lighty with PHP5 (fcgi) |
| 13:53 | <tozz> | btw, linode.com is down |
| 13:53 | <tozz> | :< |
| 13:54 | <sakaal> | is it? |
| 13:55 | <sakaal> | works for me |
| 13:55 | <CDMoyer> | for me, as well. |
| 13:57 | <mikegrb> | should be better now |
| 13:58 | <@caker> | tozz: yes, you will see a performance improvement with Xen |
| 13:58 | <@caker> | tozz: less overhead to begin with, plus Xen Linodes do SMP |
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| 14:07 | <quanin> | tasaro, someone was here looking for ya. went by linville or something. |
| 14:09 | <@tasaro> | oh ? |
| 14:12 | * | quanin nods. |
| 14:12 | <quanin> | don't think he said what he wanted, or if he did i just sort of half-skimmed over it. |
| 14:12 | <@tasaro> | don't see anything in /lastlog, but thanks |
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| 14:22 | <d-_-b|za> | Hi, in the DNS Manager I just imported a domain from another name server. Now I have alot of unwanted sub domains I want to delete. Is there anyway to select the ones I want to remove or do I need to remove one for one? |
| 14:24 | <Rifkin> | are people still being migrated to host67? |
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| 14:31 | <@caker> | d-_-b|za: one by one |
| 14:31 | <@caker> | Rifkin: yes |
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| 14:34 | <Rifkin> | so it's going to be slow for a while yet, I assume |
| 14:35 | <@caker> | which host are you on? |
| 14:36 | <Rifkin> | 67, now |
| 14:37 | <@caker> | host67 looks fine -- what's slow about it? |
| 14:37 | <Rifkin> | I'm seeing load-spikes on my linode, which isn't doing very much atm |
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| 15:04 | <tozz> | caker: ok, well if I can access the site I'm switching then :) |
| 15:04 | <tozz> | thanks |
| 15:06 | <tozz> | that was simple |
| 15:06 | <tozz> | ^_^ |
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| 15:12 | <vincenz> | Hmm, how does linode deal with privacy? |
| 15:15 | <@caker> | Our privacy policy is simple: we won't sell, or provide your goods to anyone else unless ordered by a court to do so |
| 15:15 | <vincenz> | Nor look at (well as long as you're legal) |
| 15:15 | <vincenz> | ? |
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| 15:16 | <@caker> | no, we won't look at your data |
| 15:16 | <vincenz> | ok |
| 15:17 | <sakaal> | but anything said on this channel is public |
| 15:17 | <vincenz> | oh nos :) |
| 15:17 | <encode> | not only that, it's indexed by google |
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| 15:19 | <@caker> | http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9601/df960124.jpg |
| 15:21 | <sakaal> | So. You have the right to remain silent. |
| 15:21 | <bd_> | Rifkin: are the load spikes on the hour or something? |
| 15:21 | <bd_> | could be a cron job |
| 15:21 | <sakaal> | Everything you say, can and will be used against you eventually in the course of time. |
| 15:21 | <tozz> | caker: hahaha, that one was really good :) |
| 15:22 | <tozz> | guess I should shut down all my services running on the linode if I'm switching to Xen.. |
| 15:23 | <bd_> | Rifkin: (I think the load only refers to CPU usage from inside your linode, not from other linodes on the same host...) |
| 15:54 | <sakaal> | here is little something for all EUROPEan ;) linode users http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqojIjdVuo |
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| 15:57 | <fo0bar> | vincenz: your computer is also BROADCASTING AN IP ADDRESS |
| 15:58 | <vincenz> | fo0bar: your point being? |
| 16:00 | <fo0bar> | http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=141321 <-- just a play on those stupid banner ads |
| 16:01 | * | fo0bar slinks back to idling |
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| 16:30 | <mikegrb> | fo0bar: did you see cepstral released an allison voice? |
| 16:33 | <anderiv> | mikegrb: I just noticed that a few days ago. |
| 16:34 | <anderiv> | pretty cool |
| 16:34 | <mikegrb> | it sounds pretty darn good |
| 16:34 | <anderiv> | agreed. |
| 16:34 | <anderiv> | I don't really have a strong *need* for TTS, but I may purchase a license just to play around with. It's pretty inexpensive. |
| 16:42 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 16:42 | <mikegrb> | the nerdvittles blog had a discount code for 10% off in the comments of their blog post about it |
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| 16:50 | <mshiltonj> | I should b |
