| --- | Log | opened Sun Feb 03 00:00:34 2008 |
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| 00:03 | <bleh> | anyone alive at the moment? |
| 00:04 | <GatorKram> | that depends on who you consider anyone to be, and what alive means, heh |
| 00:05 | * | Hobbsee quickly dies |
| 00:06 | <bleh> | alive means coherant enough to answe a question on the difference between the distros linode currently has (since the sizes vary greatly).. my ex roomate has decided to cancel the business DSL line.. and my servers are returning home.. so in the meantime till I figure out something more perm, I registered to host my dns (and my wifes photos) |
| 00:07 | <GatorKram> | hmm |
| 00:08 | <Hobbsee> | bleh: have you run linux before? |
| 00:08 | * | GatorKram follows Hobbsee's example, and dies |
| 00:08 | <bleh> | eh.. that was probably overkill on the info.. anyways I looked around the site.. and am unable to find descriptions.. and since the image sizes vary greatly... there has to be some major differences |
| 00:08 | <GatorKram> | Hobbsee: no man, run |
| 00:08 | <GatorKram> | or wait, play dead |
| 00:08 | <GatorKram> | i forget |
| 00:08 | <bleh> | I ran slackware back in the mid to late 90's before seeing the wonder that is *bsd :) (openbsd for gateways and fbsd for generic servers) |
| 00:09 | <GatorKram> | so youd want the most 'bsd like? |
| 00:09 | <bleh> | in that case I would go with gentoo |
| 00:09 | <bleh> | but I am comfortable in any unix enviroment |
| 00:10 | <GatorKram> | i like fedora myself |
| 00:10 | <Hobbsee> | bleh: pretty much pick the distro that you'd like, usually based on it's package management, and how easy it is to set up |
| 00:10 | <bleh> | what I want to know is the difference, for example ubuntu image is around 250meg.. gentoo is over a gig... obviously it has something additional |
| 00:10 | <Hobbsee> | bleh: well, that's easy - ubuntu has some stuff installed, adn the rest you can go "apt-get install <blah>", whereas gentoo you have to compile it all |
| 00:11 | <GatorKram> | what size linode did you get? |
| 00:11 | <bleh> | the base 10G |
| 00:11 | <GatorKram> | none of them are really so huge, as to be an issue |
| 00:11 | <GatorKram> | how much content do you need to host? |
| 00:12 | <bleh> | its most my wifes photos, and some of mine, and my wedding photos (currently using around 60G), but thats cause I am using raw format.. and letting gallery process and serve, obviously that won't due at a 10g limit |
| 00:12 | <bleh> | s/most/mostly |
| 00:13 | <iggy> | I think the size difference is that the linode guys know certain distros well enough to know what can be removed and not so much on others |
| 00:13 | <bleh> | thinking I will just go with centos (close enough to RHEL which I have some more recent experiance with.. although that and oracle made me want to murder someone) |
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| 00:14 | <GatorKram> | the cool thing about linode, is you can always change your mind, and kill the current image, and pick a new one |
| 00:14 | <iggy> | indeed |
| 00:15 | <GatorKram> | just dont upload all your content till you figure it out |
| 00:15 | <iggy> | even easier if you set up a data disk image and on OS disk image |
| 00:15 | <guinea-pig> | i think the gentoo image is that big because of all the meta information it needs to be able to emerge things |
| 00:15 | <bleh> | gator.. I was about to say that heh... |
| 00:15 | <GatorKram> | its a team effort |
| 00:15 | <bleh> | worst case blow it away.. |
| 00:15 | <guinea-pig> | linbot: rr |
| 00:15 | -!- | guinea-pig was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 00:15 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 00:15 | <GatorKram> | iggy: true enough too |
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| 00:15 | <guinea-pig> | blow it away... |
| 00:16 | <guinea-pig> | (what were the odds of him actually shoosting me just then? heh) |
| 00:16 | <GatorKram> | i had the 10g for about 2 days, before I decided for $10 I might as well get the next one up, heh |
| 00:16 | <guinea-pig> | 10g? |
| 00:16 | <GatorKram> | a bit more space, a bit more ram, a bit more xfer |
| 00:16 | <bleh> | I will probably try to get business fios in the end.. but at the moment verizon is being stupid and auto cancelling orders that already have residential fios installed (needs a second ONT/fiber drop) |
| 00:17 | <GatorKram> | linode 340 I think its called |
| 00:17 | <bleh> | yes |
| 00:17 | <bleh> | thats it |
| 00:17 | <guinea-pig> | linodes are named by the ram, not the diskspace. you're trying to confuse us :P |
| 00:17 | <GatorKram> | I upgraded to the 540 |
| 00:17 | <GatorKram> | for $10 is was a no brainer |
| 00:17 | <GatorKram> | heh |
| 00:17 | <GatorKram> | once I saw the whole thing was going to work well, etc |
| 00:18 | <guinea-pig> | heh |
| 00:18 | <GatorKram> | im in the middle of moving all my domains as we speak heh |
| 00:18 | <guinea-pig> | a few years ago, the 360 used to be 64, the 540 was 96, the 720 was 128. |
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| 00:19 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 00:19 | <guinea-pig> | it's like inflation |
| 00:19 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:19 | <GatorKram> | lol |
| 00:19 | <GatorKram> | my only gripe, is xfer counts for up and down |
| 00:20 | <guinea-pig> | why shouldn't it? |
| 00:20 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:20 | <GatorKram> | brb, need to go to the bathroom before I start this kinda debate lol |
| 00:20 | <bleh> | I suppose I should fix my dns... |
| 00:22 | <guinea-pig> | i suppose i should sleep... |
| 00:23 | <bleh> | thanks all.. later |
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| 00:24 | <GatorKram> | back |
| 00:25 | <GatorKram> | ah man |
| 00:25 | <esoterik> | whats the best way to look at memory usage to separate out cache and buffers and show actual memory being used by the system and processes |
| 00:25 | <GatorKram> | top and sort by memory usage? |
| 00:26 | * | GatorKram pulls that one out of thin air |
| 00:26 | <GatorKram> | guinea-pig: did you take off man, I was all ready to chat hehe |
| 00:27 | <esoterik> | top includes all the cached memory so it always looks near maxxed out |
| 00:27 | <GatorKram> | doesnt just typing free seperate it out |
| 00:28 | <GatorKram> | shows total, free, used, buffers, cached |
| 00:28 | * | GatorKram shrugs |
| 00:29 | <GatorKram> | esoterik: were you looking for something other than what "free" shows? |
| 00:29 | <esoterik> | yeah, at least my understanding is that theres still room past that free number |
| 00:30 | <esoterik> | because some of the ram is cached stuff and not really in use |
| 00:30 | <esoterik> | IE right now mine says: Mem: 368848k total, 359552k used, 9296k free, 37408k buffers |
| 00:30 | <GatorKram> | it tells you how much is used by cache etc |
| 00:31 | <GatorKram> | just add the buffers to free I guess heh |
| 00:31 | <esoterik> | on the swap line it has a cached number, but its really high, im not sure if thats the one |
| 00:32 | <GatorKram> | its been my experience, linux will use up as much memory as it can, to make things run well, but its not locked into that configuration, so if somethng needs ram to run, it gives it up |
| 00:32 | <GatorKram> | so really, what is it you are trying to figure out |
| 00:33 | <esoterik> | im trying to figure out how much memory is soft locked like you mention |
| 00:33 | <GatorKram> | the buffers |
| 00:33 | <GatorKram> | in my distro, it shows both cache and buffers |
| 00:33 | <esoterik> | it has to be buffers + something else |
| 00:33 | <GatorKram> | total used free shared buffers cached |
| 00:33 | <GatorKram> | Mem: 537052 395840 141212 0 98348 213224 |
| 00:33 | <GatorKram> | -/+ buffers/cache: 84268 452784 |
| 00:33 | <GatorKram> | Swap: 262136 32 262104 |
| 00:34 | <GatorKram> | thats what I see on my system when I type free |
| 00:34 | <esoterik> | ah |
| 00:34 | <esoterik> | i was using top not free, that was my question! |
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| 00:34 | <esoterik> | excellent |
| 00:34 | <GatorKram> | heheh |
| 00:35 | <GatorKram> | i said it a few times, my mistake, I thought you saw me say to use free |
| 00:35 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 00:35 | <esoterik> | and buffers would be what |
| 00:35 | <GatorKram> | i dont really know much about what its saying |
| 00:35 | <GatorKram> | buffers, cached, dont really know |
| 00:35 | <GatorKram> | google |
| 00:35 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 00:36 | <esoterik> | yeah im bouncing around google now |
| 00:37 | <GatorKram> | but yeah, top can tell you what is useing what, and you can sort the display by what program is using how much |
| 00:37 | <GatorKram> | if you are trying to figure out where its all going, etc |
| 00:37 | <esoterik> | yeah its only giving me mem% in top, i just need to play around with it more to get a sorted list of actual processes and their usage in megs |
| 00:38 | <GatorKram> | i think its shift-M |
| 00:39 | <GatorKram> | unless you are running like 50 billion things, you wont be running out of ram ;) |
| 00:39 | <GatorKram> | or a really active website, with mysql etc |
| 00:39 | <esoterik> | yeah i know, just preparing for the future when things start hitting the fan |
| 00:39 | <GatorKram> | just dont allow anything to run away with ram usage |
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| 00:52 | <BobS> | hi all |
| 00:52 | <BobS> | Anyone around? |
| 00:53 | <Hobbsee> | no |
| 00:53 | <esoterik> | negative |
| 00:54 | <GatorKram> | im more blobish, than around |
| 00:54 | <BobS> | haha |
| 00:54 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 00:54 | <BobS> | Ok I feel stupid now :) |
| 00:54 | <GatorKram> | i thought your name was boobs |
| 00:54 | <GatorKram> | whos stupid now |
| 00:54 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 00:55 | <GatorKram> | its a contest |
| 00:55 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:55 | <GatorKram> | lol |
| 00:55 | <BobS> | The other day I reported that the nameservers assigned to my linode via DHCP weren't responding correctly. |
| 00:55 | * | GatorKram hides |
| 00:55 | <esoterik> | maybe you need to tell them they're pretty first |
| 00:56 | <BobS> | caker said that he/she had reported it to their upstream provider and that the DNS entries assigned via DHCP had changed. |
| 00:56 | <GatorKram> | so many big words, dns, dhcp, linode.. hehe |
| 00:57 | <BobS> | Looking on my members page they have changed. But DHCP appears to still giving me the 'bad' nameservers in my /etc/resolv.conf anyone got any ideas |
| 00:57 | * | GatorKram has lots of ideas, but not about the current topic |
| 00:57 | <esoterik> | you could set a static ip instead using the DHCP |
| 00:57 | <esoterik> | set your own gateway + nameservers |
| 00:58 | <BobS> | GatorKram: yeah it's a miracle I can type so well considering how much I've drank ;) |
| 00:58 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 00:58 | <GatorKram> | lol |
| 00:58 | <BobS> | esoterik: yes I was thinking of going static. But see above point about alcohol comsumption. It's easier said than done ;) |
| 00:59 | <esoterik> | >< |
| 00:59 | <GatorKram> | BobS: are you sure you restarted your node, after all the changes? |
| 01:00 | <GatorKram> | ive got 4 servers listed in my resolv |
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| 01:02 | <BobS> | GatorKram: Just rebooted it and done a /etc/init.d/networking restart (Debain Etch) can confirm incorrect nameservers in /etc/resolve vs what is listed on https://www.linode.com/members/remote.cfm |
| 01:02 | <GatorKram> | did the file update? |
| 01:02 | <GatorKram> | does it have the wrong permissions or anything |
| 01:03 | <GatorKram> | or just check the timestamp on it |
| 01:03 | <GatorKram> | heh |
| 01:04 | <GatorKram> | just to be sure its still pulling the wrong info |
| 01:05 | <BobS> | GatorKram: as a temp solution I'd been commenting out the dodgy nameservers in /etc/resolve so that I could get out to the big bad internet. Those comment have been removed which I can only assume has been via the DHCP |
| 01:05 | <BobS> | I'll double check timestamps tho |
| 01:05 | <GatorKram> | yeah |
| 01:06 | <BobS> | Changed at 00:51 on 3rd Feb |
| 01:06 | <GatorKram> | id guess if you just nuke the file, it will make it again, then you know its fresh |
| 01:06 | <GatorKram> | then I guess something is still boked on their side |
| 01:06 | <GatorKram> | borked/ |
| 01:06 | <GatorKram> | open a ticket? |
| 01:06 | <GatorKram> | heh |
| 01:07 | <BobS> | Yep looks like I'll do that. |
| 01:07 | <GatorKram> | you might mention you verified its fresh info, and not stale in your resolv file |
| 01:07 | <BobS> | But for now.... I've ran out of beer and my bed is calling me. Thanks for the info guys 'n' gals |
| 01:08 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 01:08 | <GatorKram> | gn |
| 01:08 | <BobS> | GatorKram: Will do |
| 01:12 | <@linbot> | New news from wiki: Multiple IPs <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Multiple_IPs>; |
| 01:20 | <bd_> | hmm, how does one select what ipv6 address will be used for outgoing connections? I'm setting up my hurricane-electric tunnel, and want rDNS etc to work properly |
| 01:21 | <avongauss> | on your ip -6 route add default, append a src (ip address) is one way to do it. The ip address you append must be on that adapter as well |
| 01:21 | <avongauss> | and the adapter would need to be the he tunnel adapter |
| 01:22 | <avongauss> | example: ip -6 route add default via 2001:470:1000:10::1 src 2001:470:1001:10::5 |
| 01:23 | * | bd_ tries that |
| 01:25 | <avongauss> | the 2001:470:1000:10 being the tunnel/transit subnet and the 2001:470:1001:10 being the delegated subnet |
| 01:25 | <bd_> | works, I think :) |
| 01:25 | <bd_> | thanks |
| 01:25 | <avongauss> | cool, took me forever to figure out how to get linux to do it... ;) |
| 01:25 | <bd_> | (via isn't actually needed) |
| 01:26 | <bd_> | up ip -6 addr add 2001:470:1f05:1f2::1:1 scope global dev he-ipv6 |
| 01:26 | <bd_> | up ip route add ::/0 dev he-ipv6 src 2001:470:1f05:1f2::1:1 |
| 01:26 | <bd_> | :) |
| 01:26 | <bd_> | and now I just need to set up the zone... |
| 01:26 | <avongauss> | you use the dev, I just have the via... |
| 01:28 | <realist> | Any plans for native IPv6 connectivity? |
| 01:28 | <bd_> | I wish :) |
| 01:29 | <bd_> | fremont's close to he's tunnel though |
| 01:34 | <avongauss> | real close... |
| 01:35 | <avongauss> | linode has mentioned native ipv6 connectivity for fremont before, so it's on their radar, but I don't think there is an |
| 01:35 | <avongauss> | official schedule... |
| 01:38 | <bd_> | by 'close' I mean 'approximately in the same data center close' :) |
| 01:39 | <realist> | I'd heard that too, hence my question. |
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| 02:05 | <werdna> | l |
| 02:11 | <werdna> | !ping |
| 02:11 | <@linbot> | pong |
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| 04:13 | <mariorz> | !rr |
| 04:13 | <@linbot> | mariorz: *click* |
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| 07:17 | <agentbleubleu> | hi guys, im trying to install curl on the apache2 instal, I have done apt-get install curl, that seemed to work, but still im getting an error, Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in /home/myplaylist/public_html/music/direct.php on line 244 any ideas? |
| 07:20 | <agentbleubleu> | i think this might work |
| 07:20 | <agentbleubleu> | apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl |
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| 07:21 | <agentbleubleu> | ah that worked |
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| 09:09 | <@caker> | !coffee |
| 09:09 | * | linbot dispenses coffee |
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| 09:27 | <Tenkawa> | caker: linbot got any REALLY strong coffee? |
| 09:27 | <Tenkawa> | I think I've slept 18 hours in the last 24 |
| 09:27 | <Tenkawa> | haahaa |
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| 09:50 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Announcement: Pigs in Xen - Linode Xen Beta Test in Xen Public Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2944>; |
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| 10:36 | <mwalling> | agentbleu looks like he's getting the hang of it :) |
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| 10:43 | <iggy> | !rr |
| 10:43 | -!- | iggy was kicked from #linode by linbot [BANG!] |
| 10:43 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 10:44 | * | linbot locks and loads |
| 10:44 | * | scott shoots iggy |
| 10:45 | <mwalling> | linbot: rr |
| 10:45 | <@linbot> | mwalling: *click* |
| 10:47 | <iggy> | that's good though right? if I lose rr first thing in the morning, things can only get better |
| 10:47 | <scott> | yep |
| 10:48 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 10:48 | <mwalling> | lol |
| 10:49 | <atourino> | !rr |
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| 10:49 | * | linbot reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 10:49 | <@linbot> | SpaceHobo: *click* |
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| 10:49 | <atourino> | nuts |
| 10:49 | <atourino> | :( |
| 10:53 | <zeroday> | whats the best compression program on linux? I need to compress a 1.8GB folder and download it |
| 10:53 | <mwalling> | bz2? |
| 10:54 | <iggy> | 7zip? |
| 10:54 | <zeroday> | its data, backups |
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| 10:55 | <zeroday> | all sorts, mainly plain text |
| 10:55 | <zeroday> | whats the command for it bz2 compression? |
| 10:56 | <zeph> | tar cjvfp filename.tar.bz2 folder/ |
| 10:56 | <zeph> | right |
| 10:56 | <zeph> | p preservs file permissions and owner |
| 10:57 | <zeph> | i prefer using rsync as daemon, win non posix authentication |
| 10:57 | <zeph> | and backuppc |
| 10:57 | <zeph> | to cron and manage backups |
| 10:57 | <zeph> | s/win/with |
| 10:58 | <zeph> | uhmm... you can do it also with rsyncd |
| 10:58 | <zeph> | SpaceHobo: right, you can do it but username and password can be of a NON-posix user |
| 10:58 | <zeroday> | thanks guys |
| 10:58 | <zeroday> | running it now |
| 10:59 | <zeph> | SpaceHobo: if u use ssh, you should save ssh keys with root privileges on the backup machine |
| 10:59 | <zeph> | SpaceHobo: you can limit the command execution... but it's tricky... it's easier to set up rsyncd |
| 11:00 | <zeroday> | 15:59:57 up 24 days, 20:59, 2 users, load average: 2.43, 1.06, 0.62 |
| 11:00 | <zeroday> | hehe |
| 11:00 | <zeph> | SpaceHobo: as you think so... ;-) |
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| 11:29 | <zeroday> | not bad, I saved 400MB with bzip compression |
| 11:29 | <mwalling> | the kernel source is ~50 mb bzip and i think alot closer to 100mb for gzip |
| 12:15 | <JDLSpeedy> | i like how linode allows us to add/remove additional resources at random |
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| 13:04 | <Funky_> | Anyone having problems with atlanta? |
| 13:05 | <iggy> | be more specific |
| 13:05 | <Funky_> | lots packets |
| 13:05 | <Funky_> | lost |
| 13:05 | <Funky_> | page loads sometimes, doesn't completely load other times |
| 13:06 | <Funky_> | just wondering if it's only me |
| 13:06 | <Funky_> | the exact same thing happened a few weeks back... same symptoms |
| 13:07 | <mwalling> | traceroute? |
| 13:07 | <JDLSpeedy> | i can ping it |
| 13:07 | <Funky_> | 64.22.124.72 |
| 13:07 | <JDLSpeedy> | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4001ms |
| 13:07 | <Funky_> | http://moshcore.ca/ |
| 13:07 | <Funky_> | page loads? |
| 13:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | yes |
| 13:08 | <Funky_> | quick? |
| 13:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | yep |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | --- 64.22.124.72 ping statistics --- |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 7827ms |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 737.023/991.647/1295.825/192.711 ms, pipe 2, ipg/ewma 869.760/917.616 ms |
| 13:08 | <Funky_> | hrms... |
| 13:08 | <mwalling> | (ignore the speeds, thats my isp) |
| 13:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | 50 packets transmitted, 50 received, 0% packet loss, time 49012ms |
| 13:08 | <JDLSpeedy> | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 65.580/66.516/68.477/0.596 ms |
| 13:08 | <Funky_> | takes me a good 5 minutes to load it from here... |
| 13:09 | <Funky_> | My computer has been running for 2wks 2days 10mins 21secs. |
| 13:09 | <Funky_> | hmm |
| 13:09 | <JDLSpeedy> | clear your browser cache? |
| 13:09 | <mwalling> | pastebin your traceroute |
| 13:10 | <iggy> | not having any problems here either |
| 13:10 | <Funky_> | traceroute shows fine... |
| 13:10 | <Funky_> | wow frustration :) |
| 13:12 | <Funky_> | it's the same from any computer on my home network... |
| 13:12 | <iggy> | it's probably not your computer |
| 13:12 | <JDLSpeedy> | dsl or cable? |
| 13:12 | <Funky_> | dsl |
| 13:12 | <iggy> | more than likely, your isp or your route to atl |
| 13:12 | <JDLSpeedy> | try restarting ur modem |
| 13:12 | <JDLSpeedy> | there maybe errors on the line |
| 13:13 | <Funky_> | http://www.pastebin.org/18022 |
| 13:13 | <Funky_> | every other site I visit has no slow down at all... |
| 13:16 | <iggy> | could be gnax trouble again |
| 13:16 | <Funky_> | hmm |
| 13:16 | <Funky_> | the traceroute from my linode to my home is BAD |
| 13:16 | <Funky_> | hops 14 - 23 don't even show |
| 13:16 | <Funky_> | still going |
| 13:16 | <iggy> | there's a big jump there |
| 13:17 | <iggy> | well, that's just probably them blocking icmp |
| 13:18 | <Funky_> | http://www.pastebin.org/18024 |
| 13:20 | <JDLSpeedy> | ya, like iggy said, there probably just blocking icmp |
| 13:20 | <Funky_> | :( |
| 13:23 | <Funky_> | ya just rdp'd to another server and tested it... everything seems fine |
| 13:23 | <Funky_> | must be my stupid ISP |
| 13:25 | <atourino> | or a misconfigured switched in the way |
| 13:26 | <Funky_> | hopfully fixed soon |
| 13:26 | <Funky_> | thanks for your help guys |
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| 14:06 | <AdmiralBeotch> | anyone know how to add IPs to my linode? |
| 14:09 | <JDLSpeedy> | goto ur dash board |
| 14:10 | <JDLSpeedy> | for extras |
| 14:10 | <JDLSpeedy> | and add an ip |
| 14:10 | <iggy> | then look up docs for your distro on how to add a second IP |
| 14:12 | <Toba__> | yep |
| 14:19 | <AdmiralBeotch> | awesome. thanks !! |
| 14:20 | <AdmiralBeotch> | looks like it's only letting me add one... do I gotta add one at a time or can I only have a max of two? |
| 14:20 | <@caker> | AdmiralBeotch: any more than that requires justification -- open a ticket |
| 14:21 | <AdmiralBeotch> | gotcha. it's just for a couple of sites im hosting that need ssl... that shouldnt be a problem, right? |
| 14:21 | <@caker> | not for ssl, no |
| 14:21 | <AdmiralBeotch> | cool. thanks. |
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| 14:50 | <AdmiralBeotch> | i'm creating my alias interface... should I make it dhcp like eth0 or am i going to get an email or something with a new static ip? |
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| 14:54 | <iggy> | it shows up in the lpm |
| 14:54 | <iggy> | and it's got to be static |
| 14:54 | <iggy> | you can't get multiple IPs from dhcp |
| 14:55 | <AdmiralBeotch> | and lpm is??? :) |
| 14:56 | <iggy> | linode platform manager... the site |
| 14:56 | <AdmiralBeotch> | linode profile manager! |
| 14:56 | <AdmiralBeotch> | haha got it! thanks! |
| 14:57 | <AdmiralBeotch> | should i make eth0 static while I'm in there tinkering? or does it matter? |
| 14:57 | <iggy> | doesn't matter really |
| 14:57 | <AdmiralBeotch> | k. uberthanks |
| 14:57 | <iggy> | 1 less thing running afaic |
| 14:57 | <iggy> | but that's just me |
| 14:58 | <AdmiralBeotch> | tru. i'll switch it just to make it clean |
| 15:01 | <Schroeder> | GOOD ADVICE: never eat a kobold corpse |
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| 15:04 | <AdmiralBeotch> | um. lpm is saying that ip1 is 67.18.A.33, ip2 is 67.18.B.31, and ip3 is 67.18.B.31 with a common netmask of 255.255.255.0 and common gateway of 67.18.A.1 |
| 15:04 | <AdmiralBeotch> | that doesnt jive... there should be a separate gateway for the B network... open a ticket or am I missing something? |
| 15:05 | <mwalling> | i *think* they're all using /24 netblocks, but a ticket couldnt hurt |
| 15:05 | <AdmiralBeotch> | k |
| 15:05 | <iggy> | or just ask caker, mikegrb, or tasaro |
| 15:06 | <@caker> | AdmiralBeotch: it says: Gateways: and lists two there on your Remote Access tab, no? |
| 15:10 | * | caker is high on paint fumes |
| 15:11 | * | iggy is high on crack |
| 15:12 | <AdmiralBeotch> | i guess there was a lag somewhere... the second gateway showed up after I revisited the lpm |
| 15:12 | * | mwalling is still high on his quadrupple espresso from last night :D |
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| 15:14 | <canburak> | do you plan supporting paypal? |
| 15:16 | <@caker> | canburak: no plans to, sorry |
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| 15:51 | <sakaal> | Hi, I'm a Linode noob and have a question about the DNS's. How does it work here? |
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| 15:54 | <zeroday> | you add a domain then point your nameservers to linode ones, then setup apache |
| 15:55 | <@caker> | he's gone |
| 15:55 | <zeroday> | heh |
| 15:55 | <zeroday> | >.< |
| 16:01 | <@caker> | mmm, firefox 3 beta |
| 16:03 | <mwalling> | mmm, at some point overnight i broke postfix :) |
| 16:06 | <JDLSpeedy> | mwalling: how u manage that? |
| 16:07 | <mwalling> | JDLSpeedy: tried adding tls |
| 16:07 | <JDLSpeedy> | get it fixed? |
| 16:08 | <mwalling> | eh |
| 16:08 | <mwalling> | its still recieving $mydestination emails, just not letting clients use tls for relaying |
| 16:09 | <JDLSpeedy> | ahh |
| 16:23 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Policy on Running Tor Exit Nodes in Sales Questions and Answers <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3082>; |
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| 16:29 | <Funky_> | hey guys, to make a subdomain I just add the correspoding A/AAAA record and create a virtual host in apache? |
| 16:30 | <gdlt> | yeah, i'm pretty sure that should work |
| 16:31 | <Funky_> | do A/AAAA records take time to take effect? |
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| 16:32 | <opello> | not usually if they're 'new' |
| 16:32 | <opello> | otherwise caching might be involved |
| 16:32 | <Funky_> | thanks :) |
| 16:37 | <werdna> | l |
| 16:37 | <mwalling> | m |
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| 16:46 | <Funky_> | yup, it just started working :) |
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| 16:47 | <ximbiot> | general functionality question, is there any off-site backup of Linodes going on? i.e. what happens to my linode in the event of some catastrophe like a data center fire? |
| 16:48 | <ximbiot> | knock on wood and all that... |
| 16:48 | <mwalling> | they are raid'd within the hosts, beyond that is your responsability |
| 16:49 | <ximbiot> | gotcha. thx. |
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| 17:23 | <Aetas> | Guys I just made my Debian box but it has old outdated DNS server entries, can someone give me the new working ones? |
| 17:23 | <Aetas> | Couldn't find anything on the forums. |
| 17:24 | <mwalling> | its on the dashboard |
| 17:24 | <mwalling> | under remote access |
| 17:25 | <Aetas> | found it, thank you much :) |
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| 17:35 | <sakaal> | hi. so, how does this work? is it an official support channel or community chat? |
| 17:35 | <GatorKram> | sakaal: both |
| 17:36 | <sakaal> | ok... you see i seem to be having problems with the nameservers |
| 17:36 | <GatorKram> | go on |
| 17:36 | <sakaal> | my debian cannot resolve most names |
| 17:36 | <sakaal> | for example apt-get update cannot resolve all the basic addresses |
| 17:36 | <GatorKram> | someone else was talking about getting bad servers on their node |
| 17:36 | <@caker> | sakaal: dhcp should have sucked in the correct nameserver list for Atlanta ( 209.51.128.19,63.247.77.198,67.18.92.50 ) ... |
| 17:37 | <GatorKram> | sakaal: there is your "official" support (points @ caker) |
| 17:37 | <sakaal> | if i have eth0 configured with dhcp, do i still need to set resolv.conf with those? |
| 17:37 | <sakaal> | thanks :) |
| 17:38 | * | GatorKram nods |
| 17:38 | <@caker> | sakaal: what's in your resolv.conf now? |
| 17:38 | <sakaal> | lemme see... |
| 17:38 | <sakaal> | search members.linode.com |
| 17:38 | <sakaal> | nameserver 209.51.128.19 |
| 17:38 | <sakaal> | nameserver 209.51.128.20 |
| 17:39 | <sakaal> | nameserver 67.18.92.50 |
| 17:39 | <sakaal> | thatäs it |
| 17:39 | <@caker> | 209.51.128.20 is a bogus entry |
| 17:39 | <sakaal> | so only one incorrect... |
| 17:39 | * | caker hmms |
| 17:39 | <guinea-pig> | whoa, dude. boooohus |
| 17:39 | <guinea-pig> | booogus |
| 17:39 | <@caker> | I AM AN F. B. I. ANGENT |
| 17:39 | <sakaal> | that was in there as soon as i deployed my first image |
| 17:39 | <@caker> | *agent, even |
| 17:40 | <@caker> | sakaal: lemme poke around -- maybe there's a dhcpd server that hasn't recieved that update |
| 17:40 | * | GatorKram pokes around @ caker poking around |
| 17:40 | <sakaal> | k |
| 17:40 | <internat85> | but that shouldnt stop things working though |
| 17:40 | <internat85> | not if there is 2 other prestine entries |
| 17:40 | <sakaal> | some names are found, some are not |
| 17:41 | <GatorKram> | yeah, trusting apt-get to have a full and complete correct list might be a bit much to judge by |
| 17:41 | <GatorKram> | isnt there some command to update your apt-get list |
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| 17:41 | <@caker> | sakaal: remove the .20 line and you should be fine |
| 17:42 | <sakaal> | had other probs as well, apache mirrors not being found etc |
| 17:42 | <sakaal> | yep, i removed it and put in all the three you listed, in that order |
| 17:42 | <@caker> | cool |
| 17:42 | <sakaal> | do i need to restart networking? |
| 17:42 | <@caker> | nope |
| 17:42 | <sakaal> | my debian is a bit rusty |
| 17:43 | <GatorKram> | my everything is a bit rusty, damn, Im 40 |
| 17:43 | <sakaal> | other ppl have been configuring these for me lately, until i decided to put up an own server again... |
| 17:43 | <sakaal> | only 32 here |
| 17:43 | <GatorKram> | only? are you saying I am rusty... no wait, I said that.. |
| 17:43 | <@caker> | "only" |
| 17:43 | <sakaal> | hmm... |
| 17:44 | <GatorKram> | what are all you people doing in my bathroom anyway |
| 17:44 | <GatorKram> | get off my lawn |
| 17:44 | <GatorKram> | ohh wait, thats the tv |
| 17:44 | <sakaal> | white lawn it is |
| 17:44 | <sakaal> | or do you have 20 yrs old green display |
| 17:44 | <GatorKram> | i forgot what we were talking about, what now |
| 17:44 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 17:44 | <sakaal> | at least this java irc client of mine has white bgrnd |
| 17:45 | <GatorKram> | i like a dark background |
| 17:45 | <GatorKram> | i use mirc monochrome theam |
| 17:45 | <sakaal> | i guess i would be using pidgin, but hadnt had the time to put it on my current ws |
| 17:45 | <GatorKram> | much like using the console on your linode heh |
| 17:46 | <sakaal> | hmm... what do they use instead of nslookup these days |
| 17:46 | <GatorKram> | host? |
| 17:46 | <GatorKram> | dig? |
| 17:46 | <sakaal> | dig i guess |
| 17:46 | <sakaal> | i have to apt-get those as well |
| 17:46 | <GatorKram> | i use whatever pops into my head at the time |
| 17:46 | <GatorKram> | heh |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | rarly use dig |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | its so, detailed |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | heh |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | host blah.com |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | nice and simple |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 17:47 | <sakaal> | host was available as debian package |
| 17:47 | <sakaal> | dig was not, at least not with that exact name |
| 17:47 | <GatorKram> | im more used to yum, and fedora |
| 17:48 | <sakaal> | at work we mostly use rhel too |
| 17:48 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:48 | <GatorKram> | but i have apt on there too lol |
| 17:48 | <sakaal> | apt on rhel? |
| 17:48 | <GatorKram> | yeah |
| 17:48 | <sakaal> | :) |
| 17:48 | <GatorKram> | call me crazy |
| 17:49 | <sakaal> | ok... is there any reason |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | i miss the old days, using up2date heh |
| 17:49 | <sakaal> | for using apt with yum |
| 17:49 | <sakaal> | ok i see |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | i dont know |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | i do stuff weird |
| 17:49 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | lol |
| 17:49 | <sakaal> | nostalgy and an old habit. reason enoudh |
| 17:49 | <sakaal> | -d+g |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | im lucky my node works most of the time, hehe |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | wait, did I type that, or think it |
| 17:49 | <GatorKram> | hmm |
| 17:50 | <sakaal> | i was experimenting with Jboss5 and JDK6 which was complicated |
| 17:50 | <sakaal> | then tried installing Geronimo which was like 10 secs |
| 17:50 | <GatorKram> | i know enough linux to break stuff, hehe |
| 17:50 | <GatorKram> | rm -rf etc |
| 17:50 | <sakaal> | I guess I will be using Geronimo in the near future |
| 17:50 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 17:50 | <sakaal> | su |
| 17:50 | <GatorKram> | chown / -R |
| 17:50 | <GatorKram> | fun stuff |
| 17:50 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 17:50 | <GatorKram> | lol |
| 17:50 | <sakaal> | rm * -Rf |
| 17:51 | <sakaal> | actually i did break my first linode |
| 17:51 | <sakaal> | by disabling root password and misconfiguring the networking |
| 17:51 | <GatorKram> | i cant remember the last time I changed ownership of the whole disk, but it was bad |
| 17:51 | <GatorKram> | one day, long ago, I desided, I wanted to get rid of all these users |
| 17:52 | <sakaal> | i forgot that i had temporarily disabled the root password (only ssh2 access via RSA keypairs) |
| 17:52 | <GatorKram> | boy was that bad |
| 17:52 | <sakaal> | did you have many users? |
| 17:52 | <GatorKram> | system users |
| 17:52 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 17:52 | <sakaal> | hehe |
| 17:52 | <sakaal> | ok, I too once had an imaginary friend, but he refused to play with me. |
| 17:52 | <GatorKram> | when you remove each one, it was asking if I wanted to change who owned their files, etc |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | in the end, I had a big mess, and nothing worked right |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | to bad I didnt have a linode back then |
| 17:53 | <sakaal> | well, you can always start all over again |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | yeah |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | linode makes that easy |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | back then, it was a pain, all I had was a boot floppy |
| 17:53 | <sakaal> | just done that... |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | so , well, anyway |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | pain |
| 17:53 | <GatorKram> | hehe |
| 17:54 | <sakaal> | grr... this is not installing host |
| 17:54 | <sakaal> | the command i mean |
| 17:55 | <sakaal> | Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/host/host_20000331-9_i386.deb Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org' |
| 17:55 | <sakaal> | still having these dns problems |
| 17:55 | <sakaal> | my home machine easily finds that host, but my linode does not |
| 17:56 | <GatorKram> | odd |
| 17:56 | <GatorKram> | maybe they are having more dns issues than they are currently aware of |
| 17:57 | <GatorKram> | look it up by hand on the box |
| 17:57 | -!- | andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] |
| 17:57 | <mwalling> | chuck a line in /etc/hosts for now? |
| 17:57 | <sakaal> | hmm is there apt syntax for manually setting the ip |
| 17:57 | <sakaal> | well ok, the hosts is ok |
| 17:57 | <GatorKram> | [kram@li10-59 www][kram@li10-59 www]$ host ftp.us.debian.org |
| 17:57 | <GatorKram> | ftp.us.debian.org has address 35.9.37.225 |
| 17:57 | <GatorKram> | ftp.us.debian.org has address 128.30.2.36 |
| 17:57 | <GatorKram> | ftp.us.debian.org has address 204.152.191.39 |
| 17:57 | <sakaal> | ty |
| 17:57 | <GatorKram> | np |
| 17:58 | <GatorKram> | good ol hosts file |
| 17:58 | <GatorKram> | heh |
| 17:58 | <GatorKram> | how we love thee |
| 17:58 | <sakaal> | at least it works... |
| 17:58 | <sakaal> | call it manual DNS |
| 17:58 | <sakaal> |
