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| 00:27 | <warewolf> | hm |
| 00:27 | <A-KO> | ugh :) |
| 00:27 | <warewolf> | .win 4 |
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| 00:27 | <A-KO> | Someone just told me the most disturbing bit of IT info |
| 00:27 | <warewolf> | hm, people here seem to like munin a lot -- anyone aware of a plugin that tracks bytes sent/received over a particular service port? |
| 00:28 | <A-KO> | dunno of any software that can do it |
| 00:48 | <avongauss> | track bytes for the linode or the desktop? |
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| 03:46 | <sethrd> | Hmm. |
| 03:46 | <sethrd> | pacman won't bring itself up to 3.1.0, even though I removed it from the holdpkg |
| 03:46 | <sethrd> | Interesting. |
| 03:46 | <sethrd> | Not really, but ya know. |
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| 04:42 | <brian_> | did a host just go down? |
| 04:42 | <brian_> | also I can't connect to www.linode.com |
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| 04:45 | <enc0de> | caker: ping |
| 04:51 | <enc0de> | is no-one else having a problem? |
| 04:51 | <darkbeholder> | i can access my webserver but my eggdrop and irc server are still up |
| 04:51 | <darkbeholder> | can't* |
| 04:52 | <enc0de> | interesting |
| 04:52 | <irgeek> | My Linodes are all accessible. One in each data center. |
| 04:52 | <enc0de> | darkbeholder: can you open the linode website? |
| 04:52 | <irgeek> | Working for me. |
| 04:53 | <darkbeholder> | no |
| 04:53 | <darkbeholder> | guessing routing issue then |
| 04:53 | <enc0de> | yeah |
| 04:53 | <enc0de> | I can't ping www.linode.com either |
| 04:53 | <irgeek> | Are you both in a common geographic location? |
| 04:53 | <enc0de> | and I'm pretty sure it's in dallas, the same as my linode |
| 04:53 | <enc0de> | irgeek: im in .au |
| 04:54 | <Hobbsee> | fwiw, a lot of sydney connections seem to be having trouble today |
| 04:54 | <Hobbsee> | as in, out of au |
| 04:54 | <enc0de> | interestingly, I can ping my linode from my other linode, which is in another datacentre |
| 04:54 | <enc0de> | I guess theres not much linode can do about routing issues |
| 04:55 | <irgeek> | traceroute to both and see where the paths diverge |
| 04:55 | <irgeek> | from your local machine |
| 04:56 | <enc0de> | yeah |
| 04:56 | <enc0de> | the paths diverge after hop 5, which is 202.139.19.33 |
| 04:57 | <enc0de> | the next hop - both are in the same class B subnet |
| 04:57 | <enc0de> | but different IPs |
| 04:58 | <irgeek> | 202.139.19.33 is in aussie |
| 04:58 | <irgeek> | what are the next hops |
| 04:58 | <irgeek> | ? |
| 04:59 | <irgeek> | I'm wondering if a trans-pacific link has gone down hard |
| 04:59 | <darkbeholder> | quite possible |
| 05:00 | <darkbeholder> | mines working again |
| 05:01 | <irgeek> | And our office in Perth |
| 05:02 | <darkbeholder> | well doesnt matter now :) |
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| 05:03 | <enc0de> | interesting - I can't connect to my dallas linode from my home (via iinet) but I can via my parents place (internode) |
| 05:03 | <irgeek> | different backbones |
| 05:04 | <encode> | yeah |
| 05:04 | <encode> | whatever the problem, I can connect from home now too |
| 05:05 | * | encode shakes his fist at network glitches |
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| 05:18 | <sethrd> | So...quiet. |
| 05:20 | <erikh> | yep |
| 05:36 | * | encode puts some music on |
| 05:37 | * | irgeek brings out some drinks and snacks |
| 05:37 | * | erikh farts |
| 05:37 | <erikh> | that's how I get down. |
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| 05:43 | <Hobbsee> | encode: how's your connection lag from au, btw? |
| 05:45 | * | sethrd signs |
| 05:45 | <sethrd> | SIGHS! |
| 05:48 | <sethrd> | Hmm. |
| 05:48 | <sethrd> | Apache or Lighttpd |
| 05:48 | <encode> | Hobbsee: its fine. I connect from .au to my linode for irc amongst other things |
| 05:48 | <Hobbsee> | encode: what do you end up using it for? |
| 05:48 | <enc0de> | various things |
| 05:49 | <irgeek> | sethrd: A question for the ages. |
| 05:49 | <erikh> | sethrd: I'm still not convinced lighty is anything other than a not invented here solution |
| 05:49 | <erikh> | apache works great, it's installed damn near everywhere and it's robust. |
| 05:51 | <irgeek> | Anything dynamic, I say Apache. Lots of small, static files are probably better served with a stripped-down server. |
| 05:51 | <sethrd> | Eh, simply WP blog for the time being |
| 05:52 | <sethrd> | Will end up being a heavily PHP based sandbox |
| 05:54 | <irgeek> | If you're expecting (or hoping) to be /.ed, hosting html & css from your own server and images & videos from Amazon S3. |
| 05:54 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Roll Your Own - How? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3038>; |
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| 05:54 | <irgeek> | ... looks promising to me |
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| 05:54 | <irgeek> | I hate when I forget to finish a sentence. |
| 06:01 | <encode> | lighttpd is definitely more lightweight than apache - although how efficient it is under heavy load, I'm not sure |
| 06:01 | <encode> | what I do know is I can run lighttpd with php, mpd and web based mpd frontend, all on a 233MHz ARM cpu, with 32MB of ram |
| 06:02 | <encode> | which would never work if I used apache |
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| 06:07 | <irgeek> | I had lighttpd running on a Xilinx FPGA once. It was sexy. :) |
| 06:08 | <erikh> | at one place we used tux to serve static files. it was really efficient. |
| 06:09 | <erikh> | dunno if that's still a good method or not, thank god I'm not involved in that level of scalability anymore. |
| 06:09 | <erikh> | although, tux probably won't work on a linode anyways, now that I think about it. :) |
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| 06:17 | <row> | Can I just confirm you can get a 2nd IP address without additional cost or anything above the basic single IP costs extra? |
| 06:17 | <encode> | row: it costs a small amount extra |
| 06:17 | <encode> | can't remember if its $1 or $2 / month |
| 06:17 | <Internat> | $1 |
| 06:18 | <Internat> | you can have 2 ips on a linode without extra justification |
| 06:18 | <row> | k, the FAQ page is wrong then I think |
| 06:18 | <Internat> | anything more then 2 and you need a VERY good reason for that |
| 06:18 | <row> | might be wrong, I could be half a sleep, it has happened before :P |
| 06:20 | <row> | yeah I am asleep, it is clear now I have looked at it again. |
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| 09:34 | <caker> | ancient spirits of evil |
| 09:34 | <caker> | transform this decayed form |
| 09:34 | <caker> | to mummmmm raa, the ever .. living! |
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| 09:34 | <caker> | we now resume our normal broadcast |
| 09:35 | -!- | mode/#linode [+o caker] by ChanServ |
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| 09:43 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 09:43 | <A-KO> | lol @ darwin awards |
| 09:44 | <JDLSpeedy> | had anyone use quota? im wondering if you can just use a uid/gid instead of a vaild linux user/group |
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| 10:23 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: linodes par machine and guaranteed Mhz in Sales Questions and Answers <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3044>; |
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| 11:08 | <mwalling_> | http://www.dreamhoststatus.com/2008/01/15/billing-issues/ |
| 11:08 | * | mwalling_ snickers |
| 11:09 | <@caker> | Loading... |
| 11:10 | <mwalling_> | exec summary: DH did a billing run with the date set to 12/31/08, so evertone got billed for the rest of this year, were past due, and had their accounds diabled |
| 11:11 | <@caker> | everyone? |
| 11:11 | <scott> | wow |
| 11:11 | <scott> | thats what i call automation! |
| 11:11 | <mwalling_> | they don't say in their release... but the comments seem to lead towards it |
| 11:11 | <scott> | we dont need no damn customers! |
| 11:12 | <mwalling_> | oh, yeah it did... "This caused everyone to be billed as if today was 2008-12-31, wreaking the havoc that we are so sorry you had to be put through." |
| 11:12 | * | scorche|w wonders if it will ever get done loading |
| 11:15 | <@caker> | very unfortunate for DH customers |
| 11:15 | <mwalling_> | http://dstar.org/~mwalling/DreamHost.htm |
| 11:15 | <Bdragon> | Heh |
| 11:15 | <mwalling_> | mirrored from my FF window... |
| 11:15 | <@caker> | lots of people are commenting their bank accounts are now overdrawn, etc |
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| 11:18 | <Bdragon> | I am frankly not suprised that something like this could happen at DreamHost. |
| 11:18 | <dallas44> | aho :-) I set sshd to reject root's login, I didn't set sudoers file and su is not accepting root's password... how can I solve that? how do I use single mode to login and change ssh configuration? |
| 11:19 | <scorche|w> | they will have a lot of money to pay out for overdraft charges... |
| 11:19 | <Bdragon> | dallas44: lish |
| 11:20 | <Bdragon> | dallas44: lish will connect you right to the console, bypassing ssh completely... |
| 11:20 | <dallas44> | hmmm I've seen this name around but I don't know how to use it :-) I'll try to find out. thanks a lot. |
| 11:20 | <@tasaro> | dallas44: http://www.linode.com/screencasts/Lish.mov |
| 11:20 | <dallas44> | thanks dudes :-) thanks a lot |
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| 11:51 | <fo0bar> | This is just a notice that your DreamHost Account #269794 |
| 11:51 | <fo0bar> | ("Ryan's Account") has a balance of $109.40 (including any charges not |
| 11:51 | <fo0bar> | due until 2009-01-20), with $109.40 due (since 2008-12-20). |
| 11:51 | <fo0bar> | :) |
| 11:51 | <anderiv> | heh |
| 11:51 | <fo0bar> | this is complicated by the fact that my account actually comes up for renew on 2008-01-20 |
| 11:51 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 11:51 | <JDLSpeedy> | lol |
| 11:52 | <JDLSpeedy> | man |
| 11:52 | <Bdragon> | Idjit at dreamhost ran end of year billing script with date set to 12-31-2008 |
| 11:52 | <scott> | oops |
| 11:52 | <JDLSpeedy> | come on free hosting ;) |
| 11:52 | <anderiv> | yah - read about that on the dreamhost blog... |
| 11:52 | <fo0bar> | I'll probably just wait a week or so and let this all clear up before looking at what to pay |
| 11:52 | <@tasaro> | and they didn't even give you 50% free disk space?! |
| 11:53 | <Bdragon> | Hahahaha |
| 11:53 | <fo0bar> | my dreamhost account isn't important; it just hosts a copy of the Finnix archives "just in case" |
| 11:53 | <fo0bar> | because they offer 11.6 Bobbabytes of space for $3/mo or something |
| 11:54 | <JDLSpeedy> | You also have $399.00 past due (owed since 2008-11-12), and if |
| 11:54 | <JDLSpeedy> | by 2009-01-12 you do not pay at least the $399.00 part, your |
| 11:54 | <JDLSpeedy> | account will be automatically suspended until payment is received. |
| 11:54 | * | fo0bar has tried to diversify isos as much as possible ever since sourceforge boned him last year |
| 11:54 | <JDLSpeedy> | thats funny |
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| 12:21 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Roundcube Webmail - Recommendation in Email/SMTP Related Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2473>; |
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| 12:29 | <avongauss> | will there be a new iMac today, hmm... |
| 12:36 | <scorche|w> | naw...likely a very portable laptop like the eee |
| 12:38 | <avongauss> | I agree, definitely a ultra portable - just wishing for nvidia instead of ati... :) |
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| 12:48 | <avongauss> | finally, hd rentals... |
| 12:48 | * | mikegrb has had hd rentals for some time |
| 12:49 | * | mikegrb runs away |
| 12:49 | <avongauss> | xbox? |
| 12:49 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 12:49 | <@mikegrb> | and netflix |
| 12:51 | <avongauss> | hd movies = I might get to actually find out first hand if comcast has bandwith limits... :) |
| 12:53 | <fo0bar> | mikegrb: I didn't think netflix offered streaming HD rentals |
| 12:53 | <fo0bar> | or are you just talking about hddvd/bluray disc rentals? |
| 12:53 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 12:53 | <@mikegrb> | avongauss didn't specify ;) |
| 12:53 | <fo0bar> | ahh |
| 12:53 | <@mikegrb> | but yes streaming too via xbox live marketplace thingoid |
| 12:54 | <avongauss> | ... always a lawyer in the bunch... :) |
| 12:55 | <fo0bar> | I haven't tried renting/buying from xbox live yet. the rentals are comparably priced vs going to blockbuster, but I rarely do anything other than netflix discs these days |
| 12:55 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 12:55 | <avongauss> | so is the Apple TV - take 2 a software update or a hardware update? I can't tell from the macrumorslive site... |
| 12:56 | <@mikegrb> | we don't often but on occasion when all the netflix disks are away and there is nothing else to watch |
| 12:56 | <fo0bar> | avongauss: I would guess hardware since they talk about not needing a computer to tether to |
| 12:56 | <fo0bar> | so that would assume it has a decent sized drive now |
| 12:57 | * | mikegrb tethers fo0bar |
| 12:57 | <fo0bar> | mikegrb: oh wait, I did buy an episode of south park, to see how it worked |
| 12:59 | * | caker is enjoying life beyond red hat 6.2 |
| 12:59 | <@caker> | apache 2.2's config directories is kinda cool .. all config stuff broken out into files |
| 12:59 | <@mikegrb> | caker: welcome to 2000 |
| 12:59 | * | caker bows |
| 12:59 | * | mikegrb runs |
| 12:59 | <avongauss> | red hat 6.2 ? I'm afraid to ask... I remember RedHat 6.1 - wasn't that like circa 2000? |
| 13:00 | <@mikegrb> | no it was older |
| 13:00 | <@mikegrb> | that was like 98? |
| 13:00 | <@caker> | Mar 8 2000, according to http://www.owlriver.com/redhat_versions.html |
| 13:01 | <avongauss> | hmm, just a software update so far for Apple TV... |
| 13:02 | <fo0bar> | caker: the apache layout you're probably seeing is specific to Debian, but it's the best layout I've seen out of the distros I've tried |
| 13:02 | * | fo0bar hugs sites-enabled |
| 13:02 | <@caker> | ok, figures it's a debianism |
| 13:02 | <@caker> | good stuff |
| 13:03 | <iggy> | most of the distros I've seen lately do it |
| 13:03 | <Karnaugh> | sites-enabled ? |
| 13:03 | <iggy> | actually all of them, but I've only looked at 5 or so lately |
| 13:04 | <Karnaugh> | indeed |
| 13:04 | <@caker> | huh.. |
| 13:04 | <@caker> | "Note, that the "main server" and any _default_ servers will never be served for a request to a NameVirtualHost IP address (unless for some reason you specify NameVirtualHost but then don't define any VirtualHosts for that address)." |
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| 13:07 | <fo0bar> | ehh, I just remove the 000-default symlink after install and put 000-blah in with "NameVirtualHost *:80" |
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| 13:07 | <fo0bar> | which covers 90% of the time, when I don't have multiple IPs on a single box |
| 13:07 | <jvaughan_> | is the 2.6.23.12-linode37 kernel intended for general use? |
| 13:09 | <@caker> | jvaughan_: should be, yes |
| 13:09 | <@caker> | although now I forget what it fixes |
| 13:09 | <avongauss> | MacBook Air is official... |
| 13:12 | <@tasaro> | Linode Air: The world's thinnest Virtual Server |
| 13:13 | <@caker> | boom |
| 13:13 | <@tasaro> | availability in July |
| 13:13 | <avongauss> | July? |
| 13:19 | <avongauss> | will it come with 64 GB SSD drive? ;) |
| 13:20 | <@mikegrb> | Otellini: The processor is as thick as a nickle and as wide as a dime. |
| 13:20 | <@mikegrb> | wow |
| 13:20 | <@mikegrb> | caker: I think you should buy three macbook airs ;) |
| 13:21 | <@mikegrb> | just needs integrated evdo and it's good to go |
| 13:21 | <@caker> | Hunter: the destroyer of Laptops |
| 13:21 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 13:22 | <avongauss> | no mini-dvi, it's now micro-dvi... :) |
| 13:22 | <scott> | black keyboard |
| 13:22 | <scott> | not sure if i like that |
| 13:23 | <avongauss> | for some reason, I'm bettin' this is going to cost quite a few of those nickles and dimes they were talking about... |
| 13:24 | <@mikegrb> | all for $400 |
| 13:24 | * | mikegrb runs |
| 13:24 | <avongauss> | $400? that was for the 1GB memory upgrade... |
| 13:24 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 13:25 | <avongauss> | I think it's like a car commercial, starts at $1499 but well equipped for $2100... |
| 13:25 | <avongauss> | ... or not |
| 13:25 | <jvaughan_> | $1799 |
| 13:26 | <avongauss> | mike needs one for on-site dc support... :) |
| 13:27 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 13:27 | <scorche|w> | pfft |
| 13:27 | * | scorche|w lubs his XO |
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| 13:45 | <avongauss> | that's it? no cinema display updates? hmmm.... |
| 13:46 | <scorche|w> | meh...that was disappointing |
| 13:48 | <avongauss> | 64GB SSD = $999.00 |
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| 14:13 | <mwalling_> | http://blog.dreamhost.com/2008/01/15/um-whoops/ |
| 14:13 | <mwalling_> | i can has 7.5 million dollers? |
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| 14:17 | <vorien> | Hi, new customer, had a question regarding timeframe for reverse DNS additions through the Dashboard? |
| 14:18 | <mwalling_> | i think its 24 hours |
| 14:18 | <vorien> | Alright. I'll give it more time then. I placed the request early afternoon yesterday. If for some reason it hasn't propagated by then, is there a specific avenue of support I should follow? |
| 14:19 | <vorien> | Oh |
| 14:19 | <vorien> | Wait |
| 14:19 | <vorien> | It's already working. |
| 14:19 | <vorien> | hahaha! |
| 14:19 | <vorien> | Sorry about that, it's been a long day already. |
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| 14:30 | <Necro> | anyone know if the Xen beta deal is still goin on? we submitted for our linode to be moved to Xen, but havent heard anything back |
| 14:30 | <Necro> | ? |
| 14:31 | <zeroday> | its on going, but there was a bug they needed to fix |
| 14:31 | <zeroday> | so they temp. stopped moving linodes over |
| 14:31 | <@caker> | which has since been fixed |
| 14:32 | <@caker> | Necro: we have two Xen boxes in each datacenter. I think Dallas is full, but there will be more online this week, we think |
| 14:32 | <@caker> | I'm debating moving out of the beta phase, and bringing up the new hosts as Xen |
| 14:32 | <Necro> | thats would be sweet |
| 14:32 | <Necro> | we are definatly interested |
| 14:32 | <@caker> | cool .. |
| 14:32 | <@caker> | I moved the linode.com Linode over to Xen last weekend |
| 14:33 | <scott> | it only crashed once! |
| 14:33 | <@caker> | scott: no crashes, silly |
| 14:33 | <Necro> | :) |
| 14:36 | <@mikegrb> | carrotcake:reports mgreb$ ping coffee1 |
| 14:36 | <@mikegrb> | PING coffee1.linlan (192.168.1.56): 56 data bytes |
| 14:36 | <@mikegrb> | 64 bytes from 192.168.1.56: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.492 ms |
| 14:36 | <@mikegrb> | 64 bytes from 192.168.1.56: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.902 ms |
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| 15:04 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Debian vs Ubuntu in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3037>; |
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| 15:09 | <zeroday> | bugzilla or trac |
| 15:13 | <@caker> | fun .. net traffic from here in NJ to Dallas is going from: NJ->NY->chicago->Miami->Atlanta->Stratford TX->Los Angeles CA->Dallas |
| 15:13 | <zeroday> | how far is NJ from Dallas? |
| 15:14 | <@caker> | 1500 miles or so? |
| 15:14 | <@caker> | http://p.linode.com/156 |
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| 15:23 | <iggy> | one of those times when you know you could do a better job routing packets than one of those routers |
| 15:25 | <lucca> | iggy: estimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of tapes heading down the highway? |
| 15:25 | <encode> | 5 |
| 15:25 | <mwalling_> | 42 |
| 15:25 | <@mikegrb> | 242 |
| 15:26 | <mwalling_> | 4242 |
| 15:26 | <encode> | the answer is alwasy 5 |
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| 15:26 | <lucca> | hey SpaceHobo did you create that utf-8 bit with the combining circle? |
| 15:26 | <lucca> | circles rather |
| 15:26 | <lucca> | heh, no |
| 15:26 | <lucca> | provided me entertainment for waaaay to long yesterday |
| 15:27 | <lucca> | emacs and less inside screen go berserk also |
| 15:27 | <@mikegrb> | lucca: only if your screen conf is broken ;) |
| 15:27 | <mwalling_> | ltf 8-ftu |
| 15:27 | <lucca> | mikegrb: it isn't a screen problem; as he said c-a c-l fixes |
| 15:28 | <lucca> | SpaceHobo: because of that? |
| 15:31 | <avongauss> | I see an ibone in that trace, no fios yet at linode hq? |
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| 15:31 | <@mikegrb> | not available here yet :/ |
| 15:32 | <@mikegrb> | verizon reps stopped by last week, we told them when they wanted to hook up fios they could come back |
| 15:32 | * | mikegrb heads home |
| 15:32 | <Bdragon> | What would be nice is an uncooked terminal manager... |
| 15:32 | <avongauss> | If they would install it at my house I would dig the fiber cable myself if that would help... :) |
| 15:33 | <avongauss> | unfortunately I am in a BellSouth terrority, now the new AT&T... |
| 15:34 | <iggy> | me too |
| 15:34 | * | iggy grabs his post-hole diggers |
| 15:39 | * | mwalling_ and Bdragon win... the best we got is dialup, or slower dialup |
| 15:39 | <avongauss> | what's dialup? |
| 16:00 | <guinea-pig> | kids these days. no appreciation for the individual bits. |
| 16:02 | * | scorche|w appreciates nibbles |
| 16:03 | <avongauss> | :) Actually, I started with 300 bps, but I do find it strange/frustrating that broadband isn't available everywhere by now... |
| 16:03 | <scorche|w> | blame Big Telecom |
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| 16:50 | <Diogo> | hi |
| 16:51 | <Bdragon> | Hi |
| 16:51 | <Diogo> | I can pay my vps by bank transfer? |
| 16:51 | <Diogo> | Anyone know if I can? |
| 16:52 | <Bdragon> | caker / mikegrb / tasaro: ^^ |
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| 16:52 | <Diogo> | They are here? |
| 16:53 | <Bdragon> | (They are the linode staff) |
| 16:54 | <Diogo> | And are here? |
| 16:54 | <Bdragon> | Most of the time |
| 16:54 | <zeroday> | maybe, if not, they come online sooner or later |
| 16:55 | <zeroday> | they are usually around |
| 16:55 | <Bdragon> | caker: Still there? |
| 16:55 | <@tasaro> | sorry, no bank transfers at this time |
| 16:55 | <Diogo> | only cc? |
| 16:56 | <@tasaro> | Diogo: yes, visa, mastercard, or american express |
| 16:57 | <@tasaro> | credit or debit |
| 17:01 | <Diogo> | visa electron is avaible? |
| 17:03 | <Diogo> | valid? |
| 17:03 | <@tasaro> | i believe visa electron should be fine |
| 17:04 | <Bdragon> | hmm |
| 17:06 | <Diogo> | not understand |
| 17:07 | <Bdragon> | Dunno if you can do automatic payment with it or not... Visa Electron documentation says it requires "all transactions to be authorized"... |
| 17:09 | <Diogo> | ok |
| 17:09 | <Diogo> | thx |
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| 17:11 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Outage: host67.fremont.linode.com in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3045>; |
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| 18:15 | <rt> | status on host67.fremont.linode.com ? |
| 18:17 | <rt> | anyone? |
| 18:17 | <avongauss> | the past on the forum sounded like they are moving the hard drives to a different host |
| 18:17 | <avongauss> | past = last post, sorry |
| 18:19 | <rt> | ouch - this is hurting... |
| 18:20 | <rt> | any indication of when it's up again? Worth waiting for it? |
| 18:20 | <iggy> | just be thankful the drives didn't die |
| 18:21 | <JDLSpeedy> | they said the work order been sent to HE |
| 18:21 | <rt> | i am thankful..and...perhaps i should revise my backup approach..:) |
| 18:22 | <rt> | meaning...get one.. |
| 18:22 | <JDLSpeedy> | backing up would be a good thing |
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| 18:25 | <rt> | help me out here - i issued a shutdown command via the web dashboard...when the system comes up again - will it go thru the queue and leave my machine in a shutdown state as that was the last command? |
| 18:26 | <iggy> | 99% sure the answer is no |
| 18:26 | <@caker> | if the last job is a shutdown, yes |
| 18:27 | <iggy> | damn |
| 18:27 | <rt> | ouch |
| 18:27 | <rt> | no way to flush the queue? |
| 18:27 | <rt> | or issue a 'start' command - perhaps reboot will somehow do this? |
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| 18:28 | <@caker> | rt: flushed |
| 18:28 | <@caker> | rt: it'll come back to its previous state |
| 18:29 | <rt> | rocking! |
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| 18:29 | <NecroFrYeR> | u guys plan on adding any flavor ov BSD to the os selection? |
| 18:29 | <rt> | thanks caker |
| 18:30 | <@caker> | rt: np |
| 18:30 | <@caker> | NecroFrYeR: possibly, but only in an unsupported fashion |
| 18:30 | <NecroFrYeR> | cool |
| 18:30 | <NecroFrYeR> | just askin |
| 18:30 | <NecroFrYeR> | im satisfied with the current options |
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| 18:46 | <tierra> | ugh, 50% packet loss through saavis in TP |
| 18:46 | <@caker> | saavis has been shite all day, for me |
| 18:47 | <tierra> | I only just noticed now |
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| 19:10 | <host67_down> | a |
| 19:10 | <roadmr> | b |
| 19:10 | <host67_down> | any news on host67? |
| 19:11 | <@caker> | They took the spare host offline about 20 minutes ago, so I assume they're progressing. Am going to phone them in a few minutes to get an update, if I don't see any more activity |
| 19:11 | <@caker> | painfully slowly, IMO |
| 19:12 | <host67_down> | anyone know if it was a hardware problem, or if the drives went? |
| 19:13 | <@caker> | from what I could tell, and because of the host's flakyness a few days ago -- it's something with the hardware itself, not the drives |
| 19:13 | <host67_down> | it would just suck if they could not rebuild the raid array. |
| 19:13 | <@caker> | indeed. If they follow my instructions correctly we shouldn't have any problems |
| 19:14 | * | caker phones them |
| 19:14 | <host67_down> | you just can't trust those big hosts to do the job. you tell them to add more ram to the servers, they format the drives. |
| 19:15 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:15 | <roadmr> | lol |
| 19:16 | <host67_down> | I think I'm good half of the way, got some backups, but will need to find my local firefox cache to pull some updates |
| 19:17 | <host67_down> | i did in my wordpress blog |
| 19:17 | <host67_down> | if it comes to that... |
| 19:17 | <host67_down> | desperate times... desperate measures. |
| 19:18 | * | caker waits for activity on the switchport and console |
| 19:18 | <@caker> | "guy who has the ticket open is away from his desk, so I assume he's working on it" |
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| 19:31 | <JasonF> | did TP hiccup? |
| 19:31 | <JasonF> | /is it hiccuping? |
| 19:31 | <Kenobi> | what does TP stand for? |
| 19:31 | <Kenobi> | Texas? |
| 19:31 | <JasonF> | my sssh session is lagging seriously |
| 19:31 | <JasonF> | The Planet... Dallas, TX |
| 19:31 | <Kenobi> | ah |
| 19:32 | <Kenobi> | yes. my Dallas linode is experiencing lag |
| 19:32 | <NecroFrYeR> | same here |
| 19:32 | <NecroFrYeR> | dallas linode lagging |
| 19:35 | <taupehat_> | heya caker |
| 19:35 | <taupehat_> | having fun with 67? |
| 19:35 | <taupehat_> | :) |
| 19:35 | * | taupehat_ had a client phone him up wondering... |
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| 19:35 | <JasonF> | host114 |
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| 19:35 | <JasonF-trilug> | This is in case my ssh goes ha-put for the third time |
| 19:35 | <JasonF-trilug> | caker: ping? |
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| 19:35 | <NecroFrYeR> | cant get to dashboard either |
| 19:35 | <NecroFrYeR> | sites pings out |
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| 19:37 | <KoZi> | Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss), |
| 19:37 | <KoZi> | Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: |
| 19:37 | <KoZi> | Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 35ms, Average = 34ms |
| 19:37 | <KoZi> | hmm |
| 19:37 | <KoZi> | yep its lagging |
| 19:37 | <NecroFrYeR> | i got 50% loss here to dallas |
| 19:38 | <NecroFrYeR> | think i heard somewhere savvis was havin issues today |
| 19:38 | <NecroFrYeR> | i know my net was our for a hour today |
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| 19:38 | <avongauss> | not having problems with Dallas from Florida (level 3) |
| 19:39 | <Kenobi> | erm |
| 19:39 | <Kenobi> | when I try to ping mine I get destination host unreachable :( |
| 19:39 | <NecroFrYeR> | same here m8 |
| 19:39 | <avongauss> | if you do a tracert, where does it stop? |
| 19:40 | <JasonF-trilug> | caker: mikegrb: tasaro: ping? |
| 19:40 | <Kenobi> | wait, btu I can SSH in |
| 19:40 | <Kenobi> | how come ping gives me DHU but I can ssh in? |
| 19:40 | <NecroFrYeR> | mines bacl up |
| 19:40 | <NecroFrYeR> | back |
| 19:40 | <avongauss> | same question, if you do a tracert route where does it stop? In other words, what router/host is responding unreachable? |
| 19:41 | <NecroFrYeR> | i can ssh and ping it |
| 19:41 | <Kenobi> | 13 vl2.car02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.44) 55.063 ms vl1.car02.dllstx2.theplanet.com (12.96.160.12) 54.432 ms 54.450 ms |
| 19:41 | <Kenobi> | 14 * * * |
| 19:41 | <Kenobi> | was working on it :p |
| 19:41 | <avongauss> | are you able to connect now too? |
| 19:42 | <NecroFrYeR> | i am yes |
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| 19:42 | <avongauss> | kenobi? |
| 19:43 | <Kenobi> | I can ssh in just fine, no lag now |
| 19:43 | <Kenobi> | still getting DHU from ping? |
| 19:43 | <avongauss> | yes |
| 19:43 | <host67_down> | Is there a way to view the current day history for this irc channel? I keep on missing the good stuff. |
| 19:43 | -!- | emmy29 [~emmy29@ANantes-257-1-114-177.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #linode |
| 19:43 | -!- | tolecnal [tolecnal@login.tolecnal.net] has joined #linode |
| 19:43 | <Kenobi> | host67_down: idle all day and hit page up when you get back? :x |
| 19:44 | -!- | Bdragon [~Bdragon@dpc6746139138.direcpc.com] has joined #linode |
| 19:44 | <@mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/irc/linode/2008/01/15 |
| 19:44 | <host67_down> | thats the problem, i keep timing out and get droped. I'm using the cgi view. |
| 19:44 | <@mikegrb> | or http://www.linode.com/irc/ |
| 19:45 | <Kenobi> | ew cgi |
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| 19:46 | <scorche> | you know of something better? |
| 19:46 | -!- | mw-home [~mw-home@adsl-99-160-60-232.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linode |
| 19:46 | <mw-home> | Howdy all. |
| 19:46 | <host67_down> | thanks...thegrebs got it. Though the linode logs are only good to the day before. |
| 19:46 | <mw-home> | host67_down: your name is why I'm here. |
| 19:46 | <mw-home> | Is it possible to get moved to a different host? |
| 19:47 | <mw-home> | Money is not an issue. |
| 19:47 | <@mikegrb> | mw-home: we're working with the dc to get it back up as soon as possible |
| 19:48 | <@mikegrb> | host67_down: the last bit of the url is the date |
| 19:48 | <@mikegrb> | change it to go back further |
| 19:48 | <mw-home> | mikegrb: ok, is this crash related to Sunday's crash |
| 19:48 | <@mikegrb> | mw-home: unknown but probably |
| 19:48 | <@mikegrb> | mw-home: the drives are being moved to a spair server though, so new hardware anyway |
| 19:49 | <mw-home> | i've had two linodes for a year, and they've been 100% perfect. then in a week, the week after I tell my boss I think we should put all our stuff on linode, this happens :) murphy's law. |
| 19:49 | * | mikegrb nods |
| 19:49 | * | mikegrb steps out for a cigarette, be back within 10 minutes |
| 19:52 | <host67_down> | Had problems on sunday too, thing rebooted itself for no reason. Corrupted on of the mysql tables. |
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| 19:53 | <mw-home> | host67_down: are you a customer? |
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| 19:53 | <host67_down> | I thought it was an Apache problem. Someone hacking an exploit... I was getting hit pretty hard with the bots. |
| 19:55 | <scorche> | mw-home: so this was YOUR fault! :) |
| 19:55 | <avongauss> | might want to setup a rss feed to the announcements forum... |
| 19:57 | <host67_down> | what will happen with host67 is that the data center will probably send some rookie to "fix" it, do some "one-the-job" training, and hose the thing completly. |
| 19:57 | <@caker> | see my last update? |
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| 19:59 | <host67_down> | i'm timing out all over the place here with this cgi view. Its been years since I ran something like mirc. back in 2001. |
| 20:00 | <host67_down> | or they'll just drop the harddrives into someone else box and expose all kinds of sensative UFO data I got there. |
| 20:01 | <Internat> | so the techy fried the powersupply |
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| 20:01 | -!- | Deckert [~Deckert@dsl-240-152-168.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #linode |
| 20:02 | <mw-home> | host67_down: i think that's what already happened. |
| 20:03 | <mw-home> | UFO data? |
| 20:03 | <JDLSpeedy> | fo0bar: hey, you around? |
| 20:04 | <host67_down> | UFO -- unidentified flying object |
| 20:04 | <A-KO> | Look, I'd hate to say it and I don't mean any offense to caker or the people that run linode because I certianly like linode and will continue to be a customer. But the fact is, if your data retention and availability is something that is that high that losing your linode will significantly cause you problems. |
| 20:04 | <host67_down> | extraterrestrial |
| 20:04 | <A-KO> | You either need to get other linodes and setup redundancy |
| 20:04 | -!- | deepspawn [1000@200.106.216.51] has joined #linode |
| 20:04 | <A-KO> | or you need to go with a different option |
| 20:04 | <A-KO> | perhaps a colocation box of your own, or running your own hardware entirely. |
| 20:04 | <A-KO> | So if it's down, it's in your hands. |
| 20:05 | <Internat> | err |
| 20:05 | <Internat> | so what is it exactly u want from an UNMANAGED service |
| 20:05 | <A-KO> | There are certainly many options you can take to make sure there's no single point of failure. |
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| 20:06 | <host67_down> | down for 3 hours now I think. |
| 20:06 | <Internat> | u should look at the annoucements forum.. theres barely |
