TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2007:05:10

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04:00	<@linbot>	New news from forums: Kernel: 2.6.21.1-linode32 in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2733>;
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05:12	<@linbot>	New news from forums: Time several hours out on host119 about 1 request in 3 in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2743>;
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10:04	<Cobranet>	hi all
10:05	<anderiv>	mornin'
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10:30	<FireSlash>	Hmm
10:30	<FireSlash>	[fireslash@host46 lish][fireslash@host46 lish] Linode Shell (lish) Console starting...
10:30	<FireSlash>	[fireslash@host46 lish][fireslash@host46 lish] There is no screen to be resumed matching fireslash.
10:30	<FireSlash>	Your Linode isn't running, or another console session is already active.
10:30	<FireSlash>	I killed them
10:31	<FireSlash>	re logged and got the same thing
10:31	<FireSlash>	status is Running
10:32	<@tasaro>	FireSlash: try host122 ;)
10:32	<FireSlash>	oh well. reboot time
10:33	<FireSlash>	tasaro, ?
10:33	<SpaceHobo>	migration ftw
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10:33	<FireSlash>	Ah!
10:33	<@tasaro>	FireSlash: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2724
10:33	<SpaceHobo>	it'd be handy if we had like mylinodename.host.linode.com
10:33	<SpaceHobo>	as cnames to the host###.linode.com
10:33	<FireSlash>	That explains why I have more space to burn too
10:33	<@mikegrb>	lolz
10:33	<Bdragon>	lol
10:33	<SpaceHobo>	or host.mylinodename.linode.com
10:33	<SpaceHobo>	would probably be less spammy on the namespace
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11:19	<efudd>	http://billshackelford.com/home/portfolio_spamtrap_video
11:19	<efudd>	that is so cool
11:28	<@caker>	!cnn 37211
11:28	<@linbot>	caker: The current temperature in Weather Forecasts and Maps at CNN.com is 79°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 50%. Wind: SSE at 4 mph (6 km/h).
11:33	<kvandivo>	where exactly _is_ Weather Forecasts and Maps at CNN.com ?
11:34	<kvandivo>	I feel like I know a lot about it.. nice temps.. sunny.. low humidity.. not much wind....
11:38	<schultmc>	http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/
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12:08	<fo0bar>	caker: I was going to ask if you were attenting the red hat summit again this year, but it looks like the location changes yearly
12:08	<@caker>	fo0bar: yeah .. san diego this year I think.. Not going :)
12:09	<fo0bar>	I really liked the talks
12:09	<fo0bar>	bit too expensive to be worth it though
12:10	<@caker>	I'm back in nashville for the next few weeks to pack and wrap up stuff here (life), then moving back to NJ
12:10	<fo0bar>	oh, I heard you were moving back, but I didn't think it was happening that quickly
12:11	<@caker>	yeah, I'll be out of nashville by July
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13:46	<blithe>	Hey guys, I was curious why outbound ports 6667 are blocked on linode?
13:47	<@caker>	blithe: hello -- the atlanta datacenter blocks it upstream :( 6668 is open, however, but if that's not good enough submit a ticket and we'll migrate your Linode to another one of our facilities
13:47	<blithe>	Ah, gotcha.
13:47	<blithe>	Is it that big of a deal to move datacenters?
13:47	<blithe>	I don't want to be a pain.
13:48	<@caker>	Not at all, it's all automated on our end
13:48	<@caker>	You'
13:48	<blithe>	Neato. Does IP change?
13:48	<@caker>	(grr, switched keyboards)
13:48	<@caker>	You'll get a new IP, and then a button appears in the LPM to perform the move when you're ready
13:49	<@caker>	I suggest resizing your disk image smaller to make the transfer go more quickly
13:49	<blithe>	Well, my partition size is maxed out, but I'm using very little of the space.
13:49	<@caker>	right, you can resize it by clicking on the image and entering a new size (need to shutdown first)
13:50	<@caker>	so, figure your used space and add about 10% or so
13:50	<blithe>	Will do, thanks man.
13:50	<blithe>	Much appreciated.
13:50	<@caker>	not a problem :)
13:51	<blithe>	It also seems Atlanta blocks 6667 inbound.
13:51	<@caker>	they do... :/
13:51	<blithe>	But that's not really a big deal to me.
13:51	<@caker>	what network are you trying to reach?
13:52	<blithe>	Well, I'm currently on freenode and oftc on alternate ports.
13:52	<@caker>	OFTC has got 6668 open, and then other popular networks can do irc-ssl, which is like port 6690 or something
13:52	<blithe>	But, there's a few private networks that only open 6667.
13:52	<blithe>	Even though I've asked for alternate ports.
13:53	<blithe>	Aight, shutting down. Thanks again.
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14:23	<@mikegrb>	oftc does ssl too!
14:23	<@mikegrb>	unless tj broke it too
14:23	<@mikegrb>	scott: ^
14:23	[~]	mikegrb runs
14:25	<iggy>	mikegrb: ^5
14:25	<@mikegrb>	^5
14:28	<scott>	hah ^5
14:38	<h00s_>	caker: about new kernel 2.6.21.1-linode32, load average is now ok (load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00), with 2.6.20-linode28 it was ~0.6
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14:39	<@caker>	cool, thanks ... time to make Latest 2.6 point to it, methinks
14:39	<h00s>	yeah, i think so too. i have encountered no other problems, seems all ok
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15:02	<h00s>	caker: oh, just one more thing, on front page distribution list update centos 4.0 to 5.0 :)
15:02	<@caker>	got it, thanks
15:02	<h00s>	np
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15:09	<Sputnik7>	so Linode is not technically a web host, its more of server hosting and I can run what I want on them?? I just have some domains that the company i registered them with is going out of business and i need to move them over to some place else, can Linode do that or do i have to move them to a registrar then host on Linode?
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15:09	<anderiv>	Sputnik7: that's correct.
15:10	<Sputnik7>	can Linode be the registrar for my domains or do i need to move them to like godaddy and then host with linode?
15:10	<kvandivo>	if you already have domains, you shouldn't need to 'move' them
15:10	<anderiv>	Sputnik7: they're not a registrar (at this point anyway).
15:11	<kvandivo>	oh wait.. nevermind.. let me read everything next time before talking
15:11	<Sputnik7>	i registered my domains and the company i registered them with is going out of business, so if i don't move them i believe they go out to public after 60 days or something
15:12	<opello>	you need to transfer them to another registrar, and then using that registrar you would point the nameserver entries to linode's dns
15:12	<Sputnik7>	gotcha thats what i was thinking
15:12	<opello>	assuming you registered with a company that registered your domains, gave you webspace, etc
15:12	<Sputnik7>	thank you for the information everybody
15:12	<Sputnik7>	yes opello exactly i regsiterd with my old webhost cheaper than godaddy, i know why now though since they going out of business :D
15:13	<Bdragon>	Sputnik7: Your old webhost is probabaly not the actual registrar then... What's the domain?
15:13	<opello>	but they would probably have to issue the transfer, or at least permit transfers on the domain
15:14	<Sputnik7>	yeah the owner told me to make an account on like enom.com but they want 200$ just to make an account if i'm reading it correctly
15:14	<Bdragon>	The registrar is ENOM, INC.
15:14	<Sputnik7>	okay
15:14	<opello>	i use godaddy, but just for a registrar, not hosting, otherwise there's a bunch of them - register.com probably hasn't screwed anyone over :)
15:15	<Sputnik7>	alright i guess i coul go back to godaddy but their tech support was mad slow the first time i had to transfer
15:15	<Bdragon>	http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm
15:15	<opello>	yeah, they also don't seem to notify the .org whois people about changes
15:16	<Bdragon>	I use dyndns for dns services. They recently got their accreditation, so they are my registrar too now. :)
15:17	<opello>	afraid.org isn't bad either, for dynamic dns stuff
15:17	<Bdragon>	The funny thing is
15:17	<Bdragon>	I don't use dyndns for any dynamic services
15:17	<opello>	heh
15:17	<opello>	can't run your own dns?
15:18	<opello>	or not worth it...
15:18	<blithe>	It usually makes more sense to have it hosted.
15:18	<Bdragon>	Transfer of administrative overhead to third party ;)
15:18	<blithe>	Plus a service like zoneedit.com is free DNS.
15:18	<opello>	yeah, i use zoneedit
15:18	<Bdragon>	I use zoneedit on a couple of zones too
15:20	<Bdragon>	See, I'd rather have "really reliable" than "free" for some of my zones, ya know?
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15:21	<Sputnik7>	godaddy.com says i dont have an account there anymore, but they still spam my email every 2 weeks
15:21	<Bdragon>	heh
15:21	<opello>	how thoughtful of them
15:21	<opello>	you might have to request your account id
15:21	<Sputnik7>	oh im on that screen, requesting says i don't hav ean account there
15:21	<Bdragon>	BTW, whatever happened to Alice's Registry? No site updates for a long time now...
15:21	<Sputnik7>	but my spam folder says otherwise
15:22	<Sputnik7>	no idea dragon first i've seen it
15:23	<Sputnik7>	if i registered at enom.com to become a registrar and i give htem the 200$, do i have to keep paying 10$ a year afterwords for my domain or is that mine to keep forever?
15:23	<@linbot>	New news from forums: Kernel: 2.6.21.1-linode32 (Latest 2.6) in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2733>;
15:24	<blithe>	Sputnik7: I think enom.com is for domain resalers?
15:24	<blithe>	Er.
15:24	<blithe>	Register wholesalers.
15:24	<blithe>	You shouldn't have to pay $200 to register.
15:25	<Sputnik7>	i couldn't find a place for enom.com just to make a free account
15:25	<Sputnik7>	they wanted me to buy like 200$ in credits or some shit
15:25	<iggy>	they aren't for registering domains, they are for reselling registry services
15:25	<Sputnik7>	i was just wondering cause im not totally grokking wtf enom.com does and why the owner of past place wants me to use it for transfer of domain
15:26	<Bdragon>	How do you ask them to release the transfer codes?
15:26	<@mikegrb>	lolz
15:26	<Sputnik7>	if you talking to me bdragon ima tell him on IRC to do it lol
15:27	<opello>	Sputnik7: probably for easiness on his part, transferring to the same registrar
15:27	<Bdragon>	Anyway, you have to find a target registrar, unlock the domain at the source registrar, and authorize the transfer...
15:28	<opello>	and $OtherGuy will probably have to unlock then accept the transfer
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15:28	<opello>	or after a week it goes or some time period
15:28	<Sputnik7>	my domains should be unlocked
15:28	<Sputnik7>	soon as i found out they closing down i think i did that
15:28	<Bdragon>	Then you just need the transfer codes. (what are those damn things called again?)
15:28	<Sputnik7>	unlocking was where godaddy jerked me around years ago when i had them
15:29	<Bdragon>	Yeah, registrars used to be able to screw the registrant over with register-lock, but not anymore
15:31	<Sputnik7>	okay thank you all for the help, it's cool if I just lurk here right?
15:31	<Bdragon>	Think it's just called "authcode"
15:32	<Bdragon>	heh
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17:11	<blithe>	caker: Thanks for your help with the migration, However I can't seem to ssh into my linode anymore.
17:11	<blithe>	Even at the new IP.
17:11	<@caker>	blithe: are you on a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel?
17:11	<blithe>	2.6
17:12	<InterMedio>	www.LiteCat.com - All About Linux Debian
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17:12	<Battousai>	yay spam
17:12	<@caker>	blithe: one moment...
17:12	<blithe>	Much thanks.
17:18	<@caker>	blithe: ok, reboot once more -- we had an IP mislabeled with the wrong DatacenterID.
17:19	<@caker>	blithe: so, you're actually on a different IP (check the Remote Access subtab)
17:21	<blithe>	caker: Rebooting.
17:22	<blithe>	Beautiful, much thanks.
17:23	<blithe>	Works great.
17:23	[~]	blithe switches to his linode
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17:53	<Xel>	caker: I love my linode. Thought I'd randomly give you that.
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17:59	<lucca>	Xel: heh
18:01	<Xel>	Sup lucca?
18:03	<lucca>	heh, same old
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19:09	<raman>	hi, anyone around?
19:13	<jvaughan>	I am
19:13	<Pryon>	I'm not
19:13	<Pryon>	!seen anyone
19:13	<@linbot>	Pryon: I have not seen anyone.
19:13	<Pryon>	apparently not.
19:14	<raman>	I'm looking to migrate my fedora core linode to centos 5
19:14	<raman>	What I really want to do is setup my centos5 offline (while my fedora linode stays running), then just upload it and activate it
19:15	<raman>	Any relevant experiences?
19:15	<@caker>	http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Custom_Distribution
19:16	<raman>	So basically once I upload it, I would run this script to create the devices right?
19:17	<@caker>	yup
19:17	<@caker>	then edit fstab, start a getty on tty0 in inittab...
19:17	<@caker>	that's about it
19:18	<raman>	if I want to base it on your existing centos 5 distro...
19:19	<raman>	then I create that first, download it to my machine, and then I guess I would need something that runs your script in reverse?
19:20	<raman>	or is it just easier to build it from scratch
19:20	<@caker>	All the script does is just make a few /dev/ nodes
19:20	<@caker>	and there'd be no need to remove them on a physical box
19:20	<raman>	Ok, so if I download the prebuilt centos5 linode, I should be able to run it no problem on my own uml install
19:21	<@caker>	If you know what you're doing with UML, yes :)
19:21	<raman>	hmm, well, I don't :-(
19:21	<@caker>	Network setup can be a little tricky
19:21	<@caker>	Then install CentOS on your Real Box into a partition, and then lob it off up into your Linode once you're done
19:22	<raman>	excellent
19:22	<raman>	thx caker, sounds like a plan
19:22	<@caker>	np
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19:33	<raman>	caker: do the linode UMLs support x86_64?
19:49	<@caker>	raman: no
19:49	<raman>	thx
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20:03	<encode>	http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Classics-Week-Chocolate-Covered-SQL-.aspx ahahaa
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20:35	<@caker>	[Equipment Table][Equipment Table] lovely
20:41	<encode>	yep
20:41	<encode>	took me a while to spot it
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21:15	<Battousai>	haha awesome
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21:32	<elliottf>	anyone here? im struggling to get uml to boot
21:33	<@caker>	elliottf: a Linode?
21:34	<elliottf>	i dont think so
21:34	<@caker>	perhaps you want #uml then, not #linode
21:34	<elliottf>	i saw alot of logs about people discussing uml here
21:34	<elliottf>	ah
21:34	<elliottf>	thanks
21:34	<@caker>	np
21:35	<Smark>	caker, you know of any backup alternatives to rdiff-backup that are resumable? atleast at the file-list level
21:35	<elliottf>	im not fimilar with the irc plugin how can i get there from here?
21:35	<Smark>	/join #uml
21:35	<Smark>	if its supported
21:36	<elliottf>	not workin
21:36	<elliottf>	thats what would work for the non plugin i thought
21:36	<Battousai>	you'll have to use your own irc client
21:36	<Smark>	try ofc.net
21:36	<Smark>	go to ofc.net in your browser, they might have a cgi-irc client there
21:36	<Battousai>	oftc.net
21:36	<Smark>	yeah
21:37	<Battousai>	they have browser links, but not a cgi client
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22:01	<elliottf>	does anyone here know anything about uml hanging at 'VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.' while booting? sorry if its its off topic no ones responding in $uml
22:01	<warewolf>	elliottf: change kernel to 2.6 latest
22:01	<warewolf>	elliottf: and look on the forums next time :)
22:01	<elliottf>	im using 2.6.21.1
22:01	<elliottf>	my host is 2.6.
22:01	<elliottf>	also
22:02	<warewolf>	wait
22:02	<warewolf>	are you talking about a linode?
22:02	<elliottf>	no, thats why i said it might be off topic
22:02	<warewolf>	no idea then, sorry.
22:02	<elliottf>	its just on this machine running fc6
22:02	<warewolf>	good luck
22:03	<warewolf>	(that wasn't sarcasm, I was honestly wishing you well on fixing your problem. I have nothing against fedora)
22:03	<elliottf>	i saw something somewhere about certain host kernels not being able to boot guest os's? do you know abouthting about it
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22:40	<BlakerX>	hi, does anybody know how linbot keeps logs? how does it store them on the site instantly?
22:40	<Battousai>	VS_ChanLog does it
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22:40	<Battousai>	and yes, it does go instantly or very nearly
22:41	<BlakerX>	how?
22:41	<BlakerX>	what's the script?
22:41	<BlakerX>	i mean, is it an eggdrop with a php script or what?
22:41	<Battousai>	irssi from the looks of it
22:41	<@caker>	statslog
22:41	<Battousai>	oh
22:41	<BlakerX>	ahhh, thanks.
22:42	<BlakerX>	i can't find a site for that, just an ubuntu package.
22:42	<BlakerX>	hmm
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22:42	<Battousai>	well you can download the source from ubuntu then
22:43	<BlakerX>	this is true... alright thanks.
22:43	<BlakerX>	that's exactly what i needed.
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