TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2007:03:25

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07:16	<Ciaran>	Hi there.
07:17	<Ciaran>	I have a few questions about the DNS manager... how often does ns2.linode.com sync from ns1? ns2 doesn't seem to know abaout the domains I set up about 10 hours ago or so.
07:18	<Ciaran>	Also, is it possible to allow AXFRs from another location?
07:23	<Deckert>	Ciaran: afaik, updates are pushed out once every hour
07:26	<Ciaran>	Hmm.
07:26	<Ciaran>	I wonder why ns2 doesn't know about my domain then. :/
07:27	<Ciaran>	'dig @ns2.linode.com matrix.theblob.org' from my home box comes up with the standard 'no idea, go ask root-servers' response.
07:27	<Ciaran>	Whereas ns1 is fine.
07:29	<npmr>	is the domain new?
07:31	<Ciaran>	In the sense that I only switched to using Linode's nameservers 10 hours ago, yes, but the domain itself has been up for some time. Propagation isn't the issue here though.
07:31	<Ciaran>	(I just now switched my nameservers back to my old ones too, so it'll take a few hours for that to happen)
07:31	<Ciaran>	But propagation isn't the problem. I'm asking Linode's nameservers directly.
07:31	<npmr>	i'm not asking about propagation
07:31	<npmr>	i realize you're querying directly
07:31	<Ciaran>	Okay.
07:32	<Ciaran>	Yes, I set the domain up in the manager only yesterday.
07:32	<npmr>	but what may be happening is that named.conf on ns2 might be updated on a different schedule
07:32	<Deckert>	Ciaran: something looks strange witht he serial number of your domain on ns1
07:32	<Ciaran>	Deckert: Oh?
07:33	<Deckert>	it's showing 1174820007 as the serial
07:33	<npmr>	i thought it was immediate, though, so maybe there was a network problem between ns1 and ns2 at the time you created the zone and ns2 never got the zone added
07:33	<npmr>	Deckert, why is that an issue?
07:33	<Ciaran>	Deckert: That's the epoch code for March 25th 10:53:27 2007 GMT, right?
07:33	<Ciaran>	Hmm, which would be 2-3 hours ago. Weird.
07:34	<Ciaran>	I did set it up yesterday, heh.
07:34	<Deckert>	now, I don't know if Linode uses the format of 2007032500 (for 25 March, 20007), but if they do then that might be the issue
07:34	<npmr>	no, it's unix time
07:34	<Deckert>	Did you import your zone, or set it up from scratch?
07:34	<Ciaran>	The serial number is just a unique number that should be updated with every nameserver change.
07:34	<Ciaran>	It doesn't have to be in any format.
07:34	<Ciaran>	Deckert: I imported.
07:34	<Deckert>	Ciaran: agreed ...
07:35	<npmr>	Deckert, ns2 doesn't even have an soa record, so it wouldn't matter what the serial is
07:35	<Deckert>	Ciaran: but ns2 may be using that as an indication to update or not
07:35	<Ciaran>	Hmm. Point.
07:35	<npmr>	except that ns2 has no soa record for the domain
07:35	<Ciaran>	Really, though, shouldn't it be updating anyway?
07:35	<Deckert>	npmr: yup, I see so
07:35	<npmr>	it should, but not if it doesn't know about the domain
07:35	<Deckert>	Ciaran: it should ...
07:36	<npmr>	i.e. the update to named.conf never arrived
07:36	<Deckert>	if it's a normal BIND, which it is, it should simply be updating
07:36	<npmr>	Deckert, not if the zone is not in named.conf
07:36	<Deckert>	npmr: that sounds like a logical explanation
07:36	<npmr>	Deckert, you're lagged
07:37	<Deckert>	npmr: I'm in South Africa .. we're always lagged :)
07:37	<npmr>	i suspect that the code that copies new zone definitions to ns2's named.conf is probably not especially fault tolerent
07:37	<Deckert>	fastest round-trip time to SA is 290ms to the UK ... then another 130ms to the US
07:37	<npmr>	and that in the moment when the zone was created, there may have been a network issue going on
07:38	<Ciaran>	Hmm.
07:38	<Ciaran>	I'll wait until my nameservers switch back to everydns.net before messing around with it.
07:38	<Deckert>	Ciaran: perhaps do another update to your zone ... add something (a CNAME or somesuch)
07:38	<Ciaran>	I already did, heh.
07:38	<Deckert>	and see if the update forces ns2 to update as well
07:38	<npmr>	i would recommend deleting the zone and re-importing it
07:38	<Deckert>	hmmm
07:39	<npmr>	updating the zone will not create the zone on ns2, which has to happen first
07:39	<Ciaran>	I'm going to wait until my nameservers switch back to my old ones first.
07:39	<Deckert>	sounds like a fine idea
07:39	<Ciaran>	npmr: Do you think importing is a problem?
07:39	<Deckert>	Ciaran: I imported my zone and there weren't any problems
07:40	<Ciaran>	Hmm.
07:40	<Deckert>	but then again, it is beta at the moment
07:40	<Ciaran>	Yeah.
07:40	<Ciaran>	It's a shame, because everydns.net doesn't support AAAA or TXT records.
07:40	<Ciaran>	Wait.
07:40	<Deckert>	Ciaran: you have A6 records in your zone?
07:40	<Ciaran>	It does do TXT.
07:41	<Ciaran>	But not AAAA.
07:41	<Ciaran>	No, no A6 or AAAA.
07:41	<Deckert>	ok
07:41	<Ciaran>	It doesn't support either.
07:41	<Ciaran>	TXT must have been a recent addition, it didn't do that before.
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07:43	<Ciaran>	Id on't they'd do AAAA records then I would be fine. :/
07:44	<Ciaran>	I don't particularly like the idea of having my nameservers hosted by the same company as where I'm hosting with, I'll admit. Not that I don't trust Linode but I'm a stickler for not keeping all my eggs in one basket.
07:46	<Ciaran>	Brilliant, okay, my nameservers are synced. I'll still wait for everyone else to propagate but for now I can restart my local caching nameserver and access stuff. :D (There was a problem in the zone too, heh)
07:46	<Ciaran>	everydns' fault though, not Linode's.
07:48	<Ciaran>	Oh, maybe it was Linode's fault. Hmm.
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14:55	<fo0bar>	12:52 <@Maladroit> fo0bar: hang on, i have it
14:55	<fo0bar>	12:52 <@Maladroit> fo0bar: finnix for linode!
14:55	<fo0bar>	12:52 <%fo0bar> !!!
14:55	<fo0bar>	12:52 <%fo0bar> that would be awesome!
14:55	<fo0bar>	12:52 <%fo0bar> so many people would be fooled
14:55	<fo0bar>	12:52 <%fo0bar> <fo0bar> you can snicker run FINNIX... in a VIRTUALIZED ENVIRONMENT! snicker
14:55	<fo0bar>	^^^ discussing possible finnix april fools jokes :)
14:58	<afv-13>	not a very good joke since finnix is already the recovery os or is it an anti-joke
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17:08	<warewolf>	caker- ping
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19:41	<tag>	So, how many CPUs are under these linodes?
19:50	<tierra>	tag: see the bottom of http://www.linode.com/products/network.cfm
19:51	<tierra>	if you just signed up, you're likely on one of the hosts running that top configuration
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20:09	<tag>	I didn't just sign up
20:10	<tag>	I'm on host 40 I think
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20:18	<kiff>	hey, I signed up for a monthly, but if I decide to later on switch to a yearly do I get the extra disk space still?
20:18	<@tasaro>	kiff: absolutely
20:19	<kiff>	awesome
20:19	<@tasaro>	just fire up a support ticket if/when you decide
20:20	<kiff>	thank you very much
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20:42	<com4>	if i sign up for a linode, is there a way i can choose which datacenter i'm in? i'd prefer to be in theplanet.
20:43	<@tasaro>	com4: You are automatically assigned to the host with the most resources available, however you can simply submit a support ticket and we can move you easily
20:43	<com4>	tasaro: ok, cool.
20:44	<com4>	thanks :)
20:44	<@tasaro>	thaplanet is currently sold out, but should have availability in 7-14 days
20:44	<com4>	yeah, that's what a friend of mine told me. tierra to be exact
20:44	<com4>	we're trying to decide if we should stop colocating and move over to linode. :)
20:45	<@tasaro>	If you want to get started, you can start in Atlanta or Fremont and migrate to Dallas in a week or two - up to you
20:46	<com4>	cool
20:46	<@tasaro>	Your data would be copied -- just need to change you ip
20:46	<@tasaro>	*your
20:46	<com4>	alright
20:46	<com4>	maybe i'll do that
20:51	<kiff>	is there a best practices or anything for the initial set up of a linode?
20:51	<@mikegrb>	kiff: make it awesome
20:51	<kiff>	haha
20:51	<darkbeholder>	mike thats a very good practice
20:51	<kiff>	thats more a requirement though, no? heh
20:51	<@mikegrb>	one I strictly adhere to
20:52	<@mikegrb>	kiff: nah, plenty of very unawesome linodes, like opello's :<
20:52	<tierra>	not sure about best practices, but there's a 'stupid mistakes' thread on the forums that could help avoid some ugly situations ;)
20:52	<darkbeholder>	if it all goes bad you can always start over :)
20:52	<kiff>	tierra: thanks, I'll have to take a look at that one
20:52	<kiff>	darkbeholder: very true
20:53	<kiff>	and easily
20:54	[~]	mikegrb gut a creative laptop live cam pro or somesuch today
20:54	<@mikegrb>	normally 54.99 on sale for 9.99 at best buy
20:55	<@mikegrb>	macam had support committed to cvs 5 days ago \o/
20:56	<kiff>	tierra: know at all where that stupid mistakes thread is?
20:56	[~]	tierra gives mikegrb a cookie... and runs
20:57	<@mikegrb>	I think it was in /dev/random
20:57	<@mikegrb>	anyone here using osx on their desktop and irssi on their linode (or some other machine)?
20:58	<tierra>	kiff: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1648
20:58	<kiff>	awesome, thanks
20:58	<tierra>	though I was just joking, it's probably not very helpful
20:59	<kiff>	eh, it's something though
20:59	<tierra>	but it's worth a good laugh at least
21:11	<encode>	mikegrb: i am
21:16	<@mikegrb>	encode: I assume you use growl
21:16	<@mikegrb>	I guess I don't have to ask ;)
21:16	<@mikegrb>	everyone does
21:16	<@mikegrb>	http://thegrebs.com/~michael/growl.txt
21:16	<@mikegrb>	irssi script
21:16	<@mikegrb>	in system prefs -> growl -> network turn on network joojoo and set a password
21:17	<@mikegrb>	then /set growl_pass <your pass> and /set growl_host <your home ip>
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21:19	<opello>	mikegrb: :(
21:19	<@mikegrb>	the allow remote app registrations was disabled for me, to enable that option, I stopped growl, quit system preferences, opened the plist for growl in ~/Library/Preferences and manually set the value to true
21:19	<@mikegrb>	I really don't know if that is necessary though
21:20	<@mikegrb>	I would try it without first (lemme know if it works or not ;)
21:20	<opello>	mikegrb: if you'd help me, i'd make it awesome
21:20	<@mikegrb>	I'm headed to bed though, so wanted to leave you with that info just in case
21:20	<@mikegrb>	opello: there is no hope for you sonny, sorry
21:21	<opello>	:'(
21:21	[~]	opello gives linode to bhale
21:21	<opello>	aw, no bhale in here :/
21:21	<ajmitch>	where'd he run off to?
21:21	<@mikegrb>	encode: it will give you growl notification of hilights, pms, and when people on your notify list go /away\|connect\|disconnect\|unaway
21:22	<opello>	mikegrb: ooh, pushing your new fanciness? :)
21:22	<@mikegrb>	opello: ja
21:22	<@mikegrb>	opello: I need someone to try it and lemme know if that hack to enable that option is necessary or not before I put it up on my website with instructions for use ;)
21:23	<opello>	heh
21:23	<@mikegrb>	though I guess I could unregister irssi locally and turn it off
21:23	<@mikegrb>	anyway /me.sleep
21:27	<encode>	mikegrb: sorry, was AFK
21:27	<encode>	and ive never heard of growl
21:28	<encode>	but it looks very useful
21:47	<@mikegrb>	!
21:47	<@mikegrb>	sleep method threw an exception
21:47	<ajmitch>	oh dear
21:47	<ajmitch>	NMI?
21:48	<@mikegrb>	!acro nmi
21:48	<@linbot>	mikegrb: No definitions found.
21:49	<ajmitch>	(non-maskable interrupt)
21:50	<@mikegrb>	ahh
21:50	<@mikegrb>	yess
21:50	<@mikegrb>	alcohol makes me sleepy
21:50	<ajmitch>	heh
21:50	<@mikegrb>	I very much enjoy drinking whiskey straight or with a bit of water
21:50	<@mikegrb>	we didn't have any
21:50	<@mikegrb>	just some tequela from making margaritas
21:50	<ajmitch>	a shame
21:51	<@mikegrb>	just because you enjoy sipping whiskey doesn't mean it's a good idea to try tequela the same way
21:51	<ajmitch>	hehe
21:51	<@mikegrb>	especially laying down in bed
21:51	<ajmitch>	whiskey is great like that
21:51	<@mikegrb>	oh indeed
21:51	<@mikegrb>	the best bevarage ever ;)
21:52	<@mikegrb>	encode: anyway, install growl ;) then run tha irssi script
22:09	<encode>	haha @ sleep method throwing an exception
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23:54	<owner949>	hello
23:55	<owner949>	l
23:55	<@tasaro>	owner949: hey, how's it going?
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23:56	<tierra>	I think he has some commitment issues :P
23:57	<@tasaro>	heh
23:58	<erikh>	irssi+growl is awesome
23:59	<tierra>	I use irssi, and I use a mac (at work), but I usually have irssi running in putty on my Windows box sitting next to my mac instead of on the mac
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