| --- | Log | opened Tue Mar 20 00:00:33 2007 |
| 00:24 | <digitaljhelms> | caker: what was it you were suggesting i look at that might help when migrating over to linode from slicehost? |
| 00:24 | <digitaljhelms> | caker: some kind of app that was *imix or something, i can't remember the name of it |
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| 00:42 | <mattskr> | ok, so I need some help |
| 00:45 | <mattskr> | I got *most* of my server running in less than an hour but I've been working on trying to get a mail server working since like 2 in the afternoon |
| 00:45 | <mattskr> | I've done all other servers before but mail is new to me and quite confusing |
| 00:46 | <lucca> | mail's kind of a special case |
| 00:46 | <mattskr> | yea I figured |
| 00:46 | <mattskr> | that's why I never bothered with it before |
| 00:46 | <lucca> | which distribution, which mailer daemon (MTA) ? |
| 00:46 | <mattskr> | but now I need it |
| 00:46 | <mattskr> | I've been trying ubuntu and postfix all day |
| 00:46 | <mattskr> | I'm just completely lost |
| 00:46 | <mattskr> | and I've followed about 10 how-tos and I get nowhere |
| 00:46 | <lucca> | hm, using debian+exim4 here |
| 00:47 | <lucca> | you'll need an ubuntu or postfix user or both |
| 00:48 | <mattskr> | well I don't even think I'm setting it up right |
| 00:48 | <lucca> | well, any general-concept questions? |
| 00:49 | <lucca> | yar, this is good guacamole |
| 00:49 | <mattskr> | I'm not sure |
| 00:49 | <mattskr> | I guess I'm just confused about how mail works in general |
| 00:50 | <mattskr> | I'm trying to get it to work for two domains |
| 00:50 | <mattskr> | but of course right now I'd be happy to see one work, at least I'd be on the right track |
| 00:51 | <lucca> | what did you see in the guides that confused you? |
| 00:51 | <mattskr> | just in configuring it |
| 00:52 | <mattskr> | then once it's configured I tried using webmin to set up a domain or a user but I have no idea how to do that |
| 00:53 | <lucca> | well, those aren't questions I'm set up to answer |
| 00:54 | <mattskr> | hmm |
| 00:56 | <mattskr> | ok... |
| 00:56 | <mattskr> | well I guess the question is the guides tell you how to set up postfix |
| 00:56 | <mattskr> | but then after that they don't tell you how to set up anything else |
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| 00:56 | <mattskr> | like I think I have it configured |
| 00:57 | <mattskr> | but I have no idea how to set up virtual users and domains and such |
| 00:58 | <mattskr> | or I guess forget virtual users |
| 00:59 | <mattskr> | if a real-linux user could just send a mail I'd feel like I made progress |
| 01:18 | <@caker> | digitaljhelms: hmm, I don't remember that... Finnix? |
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| 01:30 | <digitaljhelms> | caker: yah, that might be it |
| 01:31 | <digitaljhelms> | hmm, finnix doesn't seem to be a migration tool |
| 01:31 | <digitaljhelms> | just curious, anyone here a macbook pro user? |
| 01:32 | <@caker> | I am |
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| 01:33 | <@caker> | Finnix could be used to copy (via scp/whatever) your distro onto an empty filesystem |
| 01:35 | <digitaljhelms> | caker: i just customized a mbp on apple.com and i got approved for a juniper visa [woot!] (and my wife said i'm good to go as well :P) so i'm ready to checkout, but i'm curious about the screen finishes available; glossy or matte, what is the better choice for both [web] design and [code] development on the mbp or does it make a diff? |
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| 01:43 | <@caker> | digitaljhelms: matte all the way <--- |
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| 07:08 | <turnip> | hi |
| 07:11 | <troy> | turnip: hello |
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| 09:48 | <adj> | hi. i have a few questions about linode. |
| 09:48 | <adj> | if i purchase a plan, how many days do i have to get a refund if im not satisfied? |
| 09:50 | <adj> | and does linode control the reverse dns server? id like to have my IP's resolve properly. |
| 09:50 | <JDM> | you can change the reverse DNS for your IP in the platform manager |
| 09:50 | <adj> | wonderful |
| 09:54 | <npmr> | i believe the refund period is 1 week, but you should check with a more reliable source |
| 09:55 | <npmr> | adj, the channel operators are the linode staff. caker is their leader. |
| 09:55 | <JDM> | according to the TOS: "All payments to Linode.com are nonrefundable.", but usually the staff is nicer than that |
| 09:59 | <adj> | great |
| 10:00 | <adj> | what problems have you have with linode? |
| 10:00 | <kvandivo> | io tokens are about all the people complain about |
| 10:00 | <kvandivo> | and that's been pretty mild lately.. |
| 10:00 | <adj> | io tokens? |
| 10:00 | <iggy> | with linode none, a few bad users got my IP blacklisted once, but it was gone after a few days |
| 10:00 | <kvandivo> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/IO_Tokens |
| 10:01 | <iggy> | the DCs lose power every once in a while for a few minutes |
| 10:01 | <kvandivo> | essentially, you can't really plan on doing anything on your linode that is going to actively require swap... |
| 10:01 | <kvandivo> | having things sitting in swap is ok... |
| 10:01 | <adj> | interesting |
| 10:01 | <iggy> | I guess one of my linodes is on a kind of flaky host, but it's never down for more than a few mins |
| 10:01 | <kvandivo> | but if you are using more mem than you physically have in an active manner, things go bad |
| 10:02 | <kvandivo> | my 'node is up for hundreds of days at a time usually.. |
| 10:02 | <kvandivo> | i only reboot when caker gives us more resources for free |
| 10:02 | <adj> | kvandivo: if i start over using resources i intend to get a full colo |
| 10:02 | <iggy> | yeah, free upgrades kick ass |
| 10:02 | <adj> | so thats ok |
| 10:02 | <iggy> | I started off with a linode64, that plan is now a linode256 |
| 10:02 | <kvandivo> | most people have that problems with tokens are trying to run spamassassin, java, and several other things at the same time.. |
| 10:02 | <adj> | how did other users get your ip blacklisted? |
| 10:03 | <kvandivo> | i had a linode 32 for about a year.. and, while tightly tuned, i didn't have problems with tokens.. |
| 10:03 | <iggy> | they got their boxes hacked and the boxes started spamming |
| 10:03 | <adj> | shouldnt each VM get a routable ip for each interface/ |
| 10:03 | <iggy> | that was about 2 years ago I think |
| 10:03 | <kvandivo> | blacklists generally block entire blocks of IPs |
| 10:03 | <iggy> | hasn't happened lately, they get cut off pretty quick |
| 10:03 | <kvandivo> | often |
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| 10:04 | <kvandivo> | but linode has been really good about that |
| 10:04 | <npmr> | adj, yes, each linode has its own ip address |
| 10:04 | <adj> | kvandivo: ahh. that depends on who is doing the blocking. =) but i follow you now |
| 10:04 | <iggy> | what kvandivo said about ranges getting blocked... |
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| 10:48 | <denis> | caker: any word on udp packets getting lost at HE (ticket 25507)? |
| 11:48 | <Deckert> | adj: what'cha want to use your linode for? |
| 12:14 | <warewolf> | caker: rr |
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| 12:31 | <warewolf> | caker- od you still have xen betas open? |
| 12:31 | <warewolf> | caker- I think it's time I moved RML off my linode onto another system |
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| 12:54 | <adj> | Deckert: web hosting, possibly mail hosting, assorted projects, etc |
| 12:54 | <adj> | im a sys admin by day and have outgrown my shared host plan i use for off work projects |
| 12:57 | <adj> | i really want a low cost colo where i can put a couple budget servers and runa xensource cluster, but i dont have the resources for that |
| 13:00 | <@caker> | denis: I'll ping the HE techs again... |
| 13:00 | <@caker> | warewolf: we could move it off onto its own node |
| 13:01 | <warewolf> | caker- my linode just gets terribly confused every 5 minutes from being DoS'd by other linodes submitting their info |
| 13:01 | <warewolf> | hell, I could just give you the website and all the info behind it. |
| 13:03 | <@caker> | I've got enough to administer, if that's ok :) -- would another node (under your control) suffice? |
| 13:03 | <@caker> | or beef up your existing node? |
| 13:03 | <warewolf> | hahaa |
| 13:04 | <Battousai> | whats it running on now? |
| 13:04 | <warewolf> | well I think it's a two-fold problem, 1) lots and lots of concurrent connections, and 2) I think I take too long processing the info |
| 13:04 | <@mikegrb> | Linode 24 |
| 13:04 | <Battousai> | hah |
| 13:04 | [~] | Battousai impressed |
| 13:05 | <warewolf> | um, linode 192 or so. |
| 13:05 | <Battousai> | not bad |
| 13:05 | <warewolf> | Battousai: I have that httpd limited to 5 children max |
| 13:06 | <warewolf> | Battousai: and the box still craps itself for almost a full minute every 5 minutes from apache going nuts over the concurrency |
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| 13:41 | <ripple> | hello, i have a question for someone from linode |
| 13:42 | <ripple> | i was wondering if i can select the location where my virtual server will be hosted? |
| 13:42 | <ripple> | or do you just put me where you have availablity? |
| 13:43 | <warewolf> | ripple: I'm not a linode employee, but I think they can move you to a different DC if you ask for it. |
| 13:44 | <ripple> | warewolf: thanks |
| 13:44 | <ripple> | are you a customer? how do you like the service? |
| 13:45 | <warewolf> | been a customer for years now. Love it. |
| 13:45 | <ripple> | cool |
| 13:46 | <@tasaro> | ripple: You're automatically assigned based on the availability. Just open a support ticket if you want to be moved. |
| 13:46 | <@tasaro> | Where would you prefer to be? |
| 13:47 | <ripple> | non-west coast |
| 13:47 | <ripple> | either middle US or east coast |
| 13:48 | <@tasaro> | You will most likely be in Atlanta. If not, just open a ticket and we'll take care of you. |
| 13:48 | <ripple> | awesome, thanks |
| 13:49 | <afv-13> | ripple: out of curiosity, why not the west coast? |
| 13:50 | <ripple> | we have a few cabinets at a datacenter on the west coast |
| 13:50 | <ripple> | i'm looking at a VSP to host some services for redundancy (dns, mail, etc.) |
| 13:51 | <afv-13> | cool |
| 13:51 | <ripple> | and i want something geographically diverse |
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| 14:48 | <PyroBoi> | caker around? |
| 14:48 | <RedNight> | I need to be moved to a diffrent Datacenter.. |
| 14:49 | <kvandivo> | file a ticket |
| 14:49 | <PyroBoi> | his ticket has been filed |
| 14:54 | <linbot> | New news from wiki: Upgrade Linode <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Upgrade_Linode>; |
| 14:55 | <@tasaro> | RedNight: all set |
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| 14:58 | <RedNight> | tasaro, Thanks :) |
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| 16:24 | <Deckert> | tasaro: out of curiosity, if we get to keep the same IP as long as we stay on the same data centre, what's the LAN switching like? GigE to each host? Flat LAN on the inside? |
| 16:37 | <@caker> | Deckert: GigE (for the most part), gige uplinks into provider's network (TP does HSRP, so 2 uplinks, but that requires no special configuration) |
| 16:38 | <@caker> | flat lan, ~25-30mbits/sec sustained, depending on the datacenter |
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| 16:53 | <kiff> | hmmm, if I just signed up, how long does it usually take before I can log in to the members area? |
| 16:54 | <@caker> | kiff: hello -- you're all set, thanks. |
| 16:54 | <kiff> | thanks caker! |
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| 18:14 | <Deckert> | caker: phew, that's a lot of sustained traffic, very nice! |
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| 18:41 | <penryu> | anyone know the prognosis for the atlanta DC port filtering? |
| 18:42 | <@caker> | penryu: it's unlikely we'll get them to remove 6667 (been in discussion with them) |
| 18:42 | <@caker> | penryu: you could always proxy, or put in a ticket and we'll move you to another dc (ip change) |
| 18:43 | <tjfontaine> | or just connect on a different port :/ |
| 18:43 | <@caker> | yeah -- 6668 is open, for instance |
| 18:44 | <tjfontaine> | if it's a matter of connecting to oftc, we offer many alternate ports :) |
| 18:44 | <penryu> | ah. I didn't notice that. I'll let my friend know. |
| 18:44 | <tjfontaine> | # |
| 18:44 | <tjfontaine> | irc://irc.oftc.net Standard and preferred method (alternate ports are: 6668-6670 and 7000) |
| 18:44 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Reboot: host50 in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2661>; |
| 18:44 | <tjfontaine> | # ircs://ircs.oftc.net:6697 SSL (alternate port is 9999. also has IPV6 addresses) |
| 18:44 | <penryu> | this is a private server that hasn't set up ssl yet. I'm encouraging the ssl route, but 6668 should be a nice quickfix. |
| 18:44 | <penryu> | thanks |
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| 22:13 | <warewolf> | caker++ |
| 22:15 | <@caker> | ? |
| 22:17 | <@mikegrb> | mmm cake |
| 22:17 | <sneakums> | mmm, cake |
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| 22:27 | <warewolf> | greagh. |
| 22:27 | <tjfontaine> | ? |
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| 22:30 | <warewolf> | tjfontaine: danke danke |
| 22:31 | <tjfontaine> | de nada |
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| 22:38 | <warewolf> | caker- where do you want bugfixes for centos? |
| 22:39 | <@caker> | warewolf: caker a.t linode? |
| 22:39 | <warewolf> | k |
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| 22:58 | <warewolf> | why ... |
| 22:58 | <warewolf> | why does xinetd start, and stay running if it is serving zero services? |
| 22:59 | <sneakums> | so kill -HUP after changing the config file works? |
| 22:59 | <sneakums> | (just a guess) |
| 23:00 | <warewolf> | I guess |
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