TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2007:03:03

---	Log	opened Sat Mar 03 00:00:14 2007
01:02	<warewolf>	um
01:02	<warewolf>	remove the __db files in /var/lib/rpm I think. Lemme make sure though
01:02	<warewolf>	yes
01:02	<warewolf>	those are the lock files
01:03	<warewolf>	just nuke the __db.00{1,2,3} files in /var/lib/rpm and that should help
01:06	<Nigel>	hmmm, must make a note of that for my RHCT
01:07	<Nigel>	:P
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01:53	<taupehat>	shhh
02:52	<James_H>	anyone had any luck installing mysql the binary way?
03:11	<@linbot>	New news from forums: DNS Manager README [Updated] in DNS Manager Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2337>;
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04:57	<triplah_>	how often do the cnames get updated?
04:58	<triplah_>	!dig mail.dpn.name
04:58	<James_H>	i'd answer, but i haven't a clue. that, and i've got my hands full fighting to get mysql installed.
05:01	<James_H>	if i'd known getting curses/termcap functionality installed caused this much problem i'd of just pawned my sql needs off on someone else.
05:05	<triplah_>	:\
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05:14	<guinea-pig>	gah
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05:15	[~]	guinea-pig loves caker... but only so much
05:15	<encode>	guinea-pig: and what inspired that comment?
05:15	<guinea-pig>	if i'd've known there plans'd be doublin' i might not have migrated when i did.
05:15	<guinea-pig>	i've been debating downgrading my plan
05:16	<guinea-pig>	sigh
05:20	<guinea-pig>	ah well, it's time for me to sleep.
05:20	[~]	guinea-pig gives caker a hug anyway
05:21	<encode>	heh
05:21	<James_H>	okay, question. trying to install mysql, but it doesn't like me. i tried installing the binary but the program i want to use, for some reason, is looking for an include directory. and i'm not seeing that option with the binary.
05:23	<troy>	James_H: what dist are you using?
05:23	<James_H>	ubuntu.
05:24	<troy>	James_H: can't you just do an apt-get install mysql-server and it will go and grab the dependencies for you?
05:24	<guinea-pig>	i mean... now i've got more ram on my linode than I have on both my home machines combined
05:25	<guinea-pig>	that's just not right
05:25	<James_H>	tried that, and installing another program puked at me because it couldn't find the include dir.
05:25	<guinea-pig>	puked how?
05:25	<guinea-pig>	while compiling or running?
05:26	<guinea-pig>	(is that other program something you can apt-get ?)
05:26	<James_H>	1: while compiling. 2: no.
05:26	<guinea-pig>	might you need to install libmysqlclient15-dev?
05:27	<guinea-pig>	or whatever version of libmysqlclient ubuntu uses
05:27	<guinea-pig>	(try apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev)
05:28	<guinea-pig>	i'm not seeing any other obvious -dev packages relating to mysql
05:28	<guinea-pig>	so
05:28	<guinea-pig>	but
05:28	<guinea-pig>	"puke" is not a good description
05:28	<guinea-pig>	you say it's not finding an include directory... what's it looking for specifically?
05:29	<James_H>	hang on, i'll rerun the configure command and tell you.
05:29	<guinea-pig>	brb... i need to nuke some food
05:32	<guinea-pig>	so?
05:33	<James_H>	configure: error: Unable to find your MySQL inc dir, specify --enable-incdir.
05:33	<James_H>	real specific error message, eh?
05:34	<encode>	James_H: yes, its a great error message
05:34	<encode>	step 1 - locate your mysql includes directory
05:35	<encode>	which should be easy enough
05:35	<James_H>	i've tried that. it's either not there, or not where you'd expect it to be.
05:35	<encode>	step 2 - specify them when compiling this other program
05:35	<encode>	James_H: not where?
05:35	<guinea-pig>	encode: should it? are we talking about a dev headers type includes dir or something else entirely?
05:35	<encode>	have you looked at the mysql*-dev packages you installed?
05:35	<guinea-pig>	James_H: what are you trying to compile?
05:35	<James_H>	vpopmail, if that helps.
05:37	<guinea-pig>	see, what i'd do next, if that's the error i'm getting, is to look at the configure script to see what it's actually looking for
05:37	<guinea-pig>	so it does help, in that i can download it and peek for myself
05:38	<James_H>	i've done that just now, and wouldn't you know, my own stupidity says hello.
05:39	<guinea-pig>	oh, does it?
05:40	<James_H>	yes. had the wrong bloody devel package installed.
05:42	<guinea-pig>	WTF
05:43	<James_H>	that'd be about what i said.
05:43	<guinea-pig>	this shit doesn't fly
05:43	<encode>	how can the wrong dev package be installed
05:43	<guinea-pig>	configure: WARNING: === vpopmail must be configured as root. ===
05:43	<guinea-pig>	configure: WARNING: === please switch to the root user and ===
05:43	<guinea-pig>	configure: WARNING: === run ./configure. Thanks ===
05:43	<encode>	also, why need root for a configure script
05:43	<guinea-pig>	i'm sayin'
05:44	[~]	guinea-pig tries with fakeroot
05:44	<James_H>	who knows? maybe they didn't think someone would actually use the popmail user?
05:44	<James_H>	vpopmail*
05:45	<guinea-pig>	popmail user? i'm just trying to configure as a regular user. doesn't matter who
05:45	<guinea-pig>	also... it needs qmail, eh?
05:46	<James_H>	eh. well, i dunno. and, yes.
05:47	<guinea-pig>	and that's the thing, though... you should only need root privs for installing it, not for configuring or compiling
05:49	<James_H>	eh. i dunno why they set up half the crap the way they did. but, as long as it works, i also don't really care.
05:49	<guinea-pig>	and yeah, seems libmysqlclient-dev might be what you need
05:50	<guinea-pig>	as long as it works.... but at what cost?
05:50	<James_H>	does cost matter? once it's installed i'm probably whiping the config files anyway. no sense in them taking up space.
05:50	<guinea-pig>	i mean
05:51	<guinea-pig>	in this case, it's the cost of giving root privs to something that doesn't need them.
05:51	<guinea-pig>	you have to be mindful of when and where you do that
05:52	<guinea-pig>	</lecture>
05:52	[~]	guinea-pig goes to sleep now
05:52	<James_H>	oh, of course. but if you know enough about the system to get something like this installed, you know enough about it to change the config script if it bothers you.
05:53	<guinea-pig>	debatable
05:53	<James_H>	i love a good debate. look me up when you've slept a bit and we'll go for it.
05:54	<guinea-pig>	hah
05:54	<guinea-pig>	you don't want me
05:54	<guinea-pig>	i tend to get stuck on the other person's logic and never get to the issue at hand.
05:54	<James_H>	i have fun with people like that.
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05:54	<guinea-pig>	and that really frustrates people for some reason
05:55	<guinea-pig>	well, best of luck to you
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05:56	<James_H>	thanks. but i think i'm gonna leave it here, and go get ready for work. sitting here since last night's long enough.
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10:36	<@linbot>	New news from forums: East Coast Datacenter in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2619>;
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12:39	<Xel>	It's so quiet today
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13:06	<gregggg>	ahem he.net ahem
13:07	<gregggg>	oh it's back :)
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13:39	<gpd>	caker: wow. Thanks!
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18:39	[~]	tasaro drops a pin. . .
18:43	[~]	Nigel accidently steps on the pin
18:43	<Nigel>	AHHH! :P
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19:33	<silverblade>	Is there a smaller version of the Gentoo installation available for Linode?
20:03	<@mikegrb>	unfortunately no, most of that space is taken by portage
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21:33	<@linbot>	New news from forums: CPU/Network Graphs in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2637>;
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22:33	<@linbot>	New news from forums: li7-252.members.linode.com is sending spam in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2638>;
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23:31	<Doom>	Anyone know if it's possible to run a gaming server on a linode?
23:32	<quanin>	specs-wise? probably. i dunno what sets off the IO limiter though.
23:33	<Doom>	Understood, will submit an e-mail asking about the IO limiter and gaming servers, much thanks!
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---	Log	closed Sun Mar 04 00:01:02 2007