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| 07:27 | <@linbot> | New news from wiki: Linux Tips <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Linux_Tips> |
| 07:32 | <@linbot> | New news from wiki: FAQ <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/FAQ> |
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| 09:23 | <londonguy> | why is host24 burning nearly 100% cpu time in io-wait mode? |
| 09:25 | <londonguy> | thanks, did someone just fix this? |
| 09:25 | <londonguy> | oh no it's back |
| 09:26 | <londonguy> | raised a ticket, no worries. |
| 09:26 | <npmr> | your linode is showing 100% iowait? |
| 09:27 | <londonguy> | nearly; it's happened a couple of times in the past when an account on the same linode gets compromised |
| 09:27 | <londonguy> | so I just raise a support ticket, the admins find the compromised host, and shut it down |
| 09:27 | <npmr> | and you yourself are not performing significantly high i/o? |
| 09:27 | <npmr> | yes, ok |
| 09:27 | <londonguy> | I'm performing i/o but not that much |
| 09:27 | [~] | npmr nods |
| 09:28 | <npmr> | so basically, what's happening is that the other linodes on your host are consuming all of the available disk bandwidth, but each is still operating within the bounds of its limiter |
| 09:29 | <npmr> | the compromised neighbor scenario makes perfect sense |
| 09:30 | <npmr> | i've seen excessive iowait like that on my linode before as well |
| 09:30 | <londonguy> | npmr it is possible it is spamming/flooding IP packets, using the i/o bus that way |
| 09:30 | <npmr> | spamming would do it |
| 09:30 | <londonguy> | maybe I spoke to soon |
| 09:30 | <londonguy> | I was doing an rsync |
| 09:30 | <npmr> | how's your io_status? |
| 09:30 | <londonguy> | nope, rsync is over, and it's 100% io-wait again |
| 09:30 | <londonguy> | :) |
| 09:31 | <londonguy> | # cat /proc/io_status |
| 09:31 | <londonguy> | io_count=10260370 io_rate=7 io_tokens=399970 token_refill=512 token_max=400000 |
| 09:31 | <londonguy> | definately isn't me |
| 09:31 | <npmr> | indeed |
| 09:32 | <npmr> | when this happened to me, the problem was that the host had too many busy linodes |
| 09:32 | <npmr> | most linode customers, as it turns out, aren't doing much with their linodes |
| 09:33 | <londonguy> | yup; see that linode has opened a data centre on the east coast - oo that reminds me I have to do a ping test from home |
| 09:33 | <npmr> | a coming together of three or four that are busy onto the same host eats up all of the host's i/o bandwidth |
| 09:33 | <npmr> | londonguy, mind the blocked ports list |
| 09:33 | <npmr> | they're a bit stingy |
| 09:33 | <londonguy> | yes that's pretty nasty, npmr, I must admit.. |
| 09:34 | <npmr> | have you seen it? |
| 09:34 | <londonguy> | the block ports list? yes. |
| 09:34 | <londonguy> | fortunately I don't run any irc servers |
| 09:34 | <npmr> | how about clients? |
| 09:35 | <londonguy> | but is kinda ridiculous for a hosting company to block all ports - really that's the job of a firewall script |
| 09:35 | <londonguy> | we wouldn't be asking for virtual servers if we didn't know what we were doing.. right? |
| 09:36 | <npmr> | hosting companies, sure, but not this kind of hosting |
| 09:36 | <npmr> | for a colocation facility that hosts customers hardware, it is very ridiculous |
| 09:36 | <@mikegrb> | londonguy: do you have anything io heavy running at the moment? |
| 09:36 | <londonguy> | just this second, yes, an rsync |
| 09:36 | <londonguy> | I'll stop it |
| 09:37 | <londonguy> | stopped |
| 09:37 | <londonguy> | the high io-wait is intermittent |
| 09:37 | <londonguy> | about 1 min 100% io-wait, 1min 0% io-wait |
| 09:37 | <@mikegrb> | how does it look now? |
| 09:37 | <londonguy> | this second, it's at zero |
| 09:37 | <londonguy> | still zero :-s |
| 09:37 | <@mikegrb> | there were a couple od linodes thrashing swap |
| 09:37 | <npmr> | londonguy, are you collecting the iowait data from vmstat or otherwise? |
| 09:38 | <londonguy> | ah ok |
| 09:38 | <@mikegrb> | I took care of them |
| 09:38 | <londonguy> | htop - a colourful top |
| 09:38 | <londonguy> | ok thanks mike |
| 09:38 | <@mikegrb> | then yours was the only high io linode left |
| 09:38 | <londonguy> | it certainly is a lot better than it was 5 minutes ago |
| 09:38 | <@mikegrb> | feel free to start your rsync back up |
| 09:38 | <londonguy> | thanks |
| 09:38 | <@mikegrb> | may drive your iowait up a touch |
| 09:38 | <@mikegrb> | but once it is done you should be back to 0 |
| 09:38 | <londonguy> | ok going a lot faster now |
| 09:39 | <londonguy> | it wasn't a compromised host this time? |
| 09:39 | <@mikegrb> | nope, it's rare that it is |
| 09:39 | <londonguy> | hmm slowed right down again |
| 09:39 | <@mikegrb> | going to go ahead and close the ticket indicating that we spoke on irc but do go ahead and open another if it gets bad |
| 09:40 | <@mikegrb> | oh, /me looks |
| 09:40 | <londonguy> | no no it's ok |
| 09:40 | <londonguy> | it must be my rsync |
| 09:40 | <londonguy> | I've never looked closely |
| 09:40 | <@mikegrb> | another! |
| 09:40 | <@mikegrb> | well I've found another one anyway ;) |
| 09:40 | <londonguy> | i'm rsyncing again now |
| 09:41 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 09:41 | <londonguy> | lol intermittant problems are the most fun |
| 09:41 | <londonguy> | this is odd |
| 09:43 | <londonguy> | maybe rsync is linode unfriendly |
| 09:44 | <londonguy> | well that time it got through my 53000 files a lot quicker |
| 09:44 | <londonguy> | ok I won't be doing any more io on host24 for a while! |
| 09:45 | <londonguy> | later in the day I play to do an apt-get upgrade |
| 09:45 | <londonguy> | ooo 124ms from London to EastCoastLinode vs 188ms from London to WestCoastLinode |
| 09:45 | <londonguy> | :) |
| 09:46 | <londonguy> | to be honest I don't know if that's good/bad/whatever, most of my experience has been in NewZealand to SanJose round trip times |
| 09:46 | <londonguy> | but 64ms better is great! |
| 09:47 | <londonguy> | mikegrb you can close that ticket - must have been my imagination |
| 09:47 | <londonguy> | mikegrb sorry about that; i/o wait status is zero |
| 09:48 | <londonguy> | npmr if you're using linux you might want to check out htop (http://htop.sourceforge.net/) it's prettier than top |
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| 09:56 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: East Coast Datacenter in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2619> |
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| 10:08 | [~] | tasaro awaits londonguy's migration support ticket. . . ;) |
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| 11:21 | <londonguy> | migration support? to east coast? |
| 11:22 | <londonguy> | no no, I will eventually get a 2nd linode |
| 11:22 | <londonguy> | as it is I'm going on holiday to Australia, and response times to the west coast are much better from there |
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| 12:13 | <afv-13> | what a relief that my new credit card didn't give any problems |
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| 13:54 | <srw> | Hi. Is something up with host40? It seems dog-slow whether i log into my linode via ssh, or through lish. |
| 13:54 | [~] | caker looks |
| 13:55 | <efudd> | sorry, I was using it's CPUs to cook my breakfast. |
| 13:55 | <srw> | Bacon or eggs?? |
| 13:56 | <efudd> | both. |
| 13:56 | <efudd> | 2 CPUs. |
| 14:00 | <londonguy> | z80s or 80386s? |
| 14:00 | <GN> | I'm on 40 as well |
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| 14:01 | <GN> | and agree somethings up |
| 14:01 | <@caker> | should be better in 1 minute |
| 14:01 | <srw> | I've had somewhat frequent incidents like this over the past number of months, but they always seem to clear themselves up after 30 seconds or so. This one was longer. |
| 14:01 | <GN> | weee caker's on it :) |
| 14:02 | <@caker> | someone was duplicating their 9G disk image from the LPM |
| 14:02 | <GN> | ah ha! |
| 14:02 | <@caker> | usually that doesn't make any difference, ... |
| 14:02 | <GN> | seems ok now |
| 14:03 | <@caker> | srw: we'd be happy to migrate you to one of the new hosts (either east or west coast however) |
| 14:03 | <GN> | just the inital connect was slow |
| 14:03 | <@caker> | GN: same with you, punk |
| 14:03 | <GN> | caker: I was about to ask ;) |
| 14:04 | <srw> | I haven't paid attention to the goings-on at Linode... what's up with the new hosts? |
| 14:04 | <@caker> | any migrations off TP servers would help us out, too -- spread the word |
| 14:04 | <@caker> | srw: bigger, faster, stronger |
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| 14:04 | <GN> | well in that case, which is better east or west? |
| 14:05 | <@caker> | they're of the same host specification, so take your pick |
| 14:05 | <@caker> | host77.linode.com <-- Atlanta |
| 14:05 | <@caker> | host76.linode.com <-- Fremont |
| 14:05 | <warewolf> | caker: are you ditching TP? |
| 14:06 | <Xel> | I hope so. I don't like how TP treats my friends here at Linode. |
| 14:06 | <Xel> | I used to have a RackShack dedicated server |
| 14:06 | <@caker> | warewolf: no; we need resources freed there -- and TP/EV1 is having merger issues, I think |
| 14:06 | <Xel> | Biggest problem was customer service |
| 14:06 | <warewolf> | Xel- ME TOO. |
| 14:06 | <warewolf> | wow |
| 14:06 | <Xel> | They never could get their act together |
| 14:06 | <warewolf> | xel- story time! |
| 14:06 | <Xel> | Money is #1, not customers in my opinion |
| 14:07 | <Xel> | (For them) |
| 14:07 | <warewolf> | xel- a server I coadmin'd got hacked |
| 14:07 | <srw> | EV1? You mean the "we're signing a big contract with SCO" EV1? |
| 14:07 | <warewolf> | xel- I went and fixed it |
| 14:07 | <@caker> | I'm *supposed* to hear back from my TP rep today... |
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| 14:07 | <Xel> | caker, I hope you've learned to not expect much out of them by now :P |
| 14:07 | <warewolf> | xel- hackers decided that since they couldn't get back into it, that they'd own a box on the same switch |
| 14:07 | <Xel> | warewolf, I never had that kind of issue. I always had network performance issues and a LOT of "random" outages |
| 14:08 | <Xel> | They always said "Sorry, but it's fine now". Never tried to make sure that customers were happy |
| 14:08 | <warewolf> | xel- so that other box now has an arp-poisoning process running on it, and it keeps "stealing" our IP address |
| 14:08 | <warewolf> | xel- thankfully our box had two IPs, so we could still get into it on the second IP |
| 14:08 | <@caker> | warewolf: haha |
| 14:08 | <@caker> | classic |
| 14:08 | <Xel> | warewolf, that fact that you got pwned in the first place tells me that you didn't stay on top of things |
| 14:08 | <warewolf> | xel- I ran tcpdump and figured out the MAC of the rogue box, and told them "Find thix box, and unplug it." |
| 14:09 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Dashboard bug in booting configuration profiles? in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2633> |
| 14:09 | <warewolf> | xel- they couldn't find the box. |
| 14:09 | <Xel> | warewolf, I told you, they are idiots. |
| 14:09 | <GN> | caker: who is the atlanta provider? |
| 14:09 | <Xel> | caker, host62 is in fremont right? |
| 14:09 | <warewolf> | xel- I had to call a friend of a friend of a friend who talked CEO<->CEO between Voxel and RackShack to get it fixed. |
| 14:09 | <@caker> | GN: AtlantaNAP |
| 14:09 | <@caker> | Xel: yes |
| 14:09 | <warewolf> | voxel++ |
| 14:09 | <Xel> | Good :) |
| 14:10 | <warewolf> | Xel- I can't be held responcible for decisions made by the guy who actually pays for the box. |
| 14:10 | <warewolf> | Xel- I just helped him admin it a bit. |
| 14:10 | <Xel> | By the way, my comments about rackshack are my personal opinion, and are based on events that I experienced first hand |
| 14:10 | <warewolf> | Now I have LINODE! And nobody bothers me!! |
| 14:11 | <warewolf> | caker- and I presume that the networking setup you have on the linode hosts has this PLEASANT side effect of removing any possibility of arp poisoning :) |
| 14:11 | <warewolf> | ebtables++ |
| 14:12 | <@caker> | ebtables RULES |
| 14:12 | <@caker> | warewolf: and yes. |
| 14:13 | <srw> | Well, From my ISP it's 12 hops to either 77 or 78, and the pings are identical. From the "other" isp around here, they're both 15 hops, and 77 is about 3ms faster. So, I guess it's a choice between hurricanes or earthquakes. |
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| 14:15 | <srw> | (Dallas is 12/14hops, and ever so slightly longer pings) |
| 14:27 | <srw> | Digging way back in my memory banks, I seem to recall frequent problems at HE. Are those a thing of the past? IIRC, I actually migrated from HE to TP at one point. |
| 14:28 | <afv-13> | TP are more lenient with blocked ports so i'll be staying |
| 14:29 | <srw> | Oops, gotta go... ttyl |
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| 14:30 | <@caker> | srw: just making sure you now -- host77 and host78 are at the same DC.. |
| 14:30 | <@caker> | welp. |
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| 14:30 | <@caker> | also, *know :) |
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| 14:36 | <@caker> | rock out with your hawk out: http://news.com.com/Stephen+Hawking+plans+prelude+to+the+ride+of+his+life/2100-11397_3-6163473.html?tag=nefd.top |
| 14:53 | <efudd> | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/weird-combo-of-the-day-free-lg-chocolate-phone-with-pizza-240485.php |
| 14:53 | <efudd> | Odd. |
| 14:56 | <warewolf> | efudd: I was about to say "Hey, I just saw that pasted somewhere else" and then I realised IT WAS YOU. |
| 14:57 | <efudd> | :) |
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| 15:06 | <mark> | Anyone from linode on here now? |
| 15:11 | <warewolf> | mark: caker/mikegrb/tasauro |
| 15:15 | <encode> | mark: got a question? maybe we can help out |
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| 15:17 | <mark> | Thanks |
| 15:17 | <mark> | I was wondering if it's possible to change an account to use a lesser linode plan |
| 15:18 | <mark> | Temporarily, and be able to switch back up later |
| 15:22 | <encode> | sure it is |
| 15:22 | <encode> | just fill out a ticket in the web interface |
| 15:22 | <encode> | it depends on having a linode with that lesser plan available |
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| 15:23 | <londonguy> | is Altanta the state under a stack of tornado warnings right now? |
| 15:23 | <encode> | and you might need to arrange them to hold your current linode, otherwise there might not be any linodes available with your current plan |
| 15:23 | <encode> | but its definitely possible |
| 15:24 | <mark> | thanks alot |
| 15:25 | <encode> | do you know where to find the support ticket stuff? |
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| 15:36 | <GN> | mikegrb: will my li*.members.\-linode.com address change during migration? |
| 15:37 | <GN> | or tasaro...or linbot |
| 15:38 | <GN> | *.members.linode.com i mean :) |
| 15:41 | <@caker> | GN: yes, if you switch datacenters -- those are tied to the IP |
| 15:42 | <GN> | caker: thx, should I put the request in through a ticket? |
| 15:42 | <@caker> | yes, please |
| 15:42 | <GN> | will do |
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| 16:16 | <npmr> | londonguy, http://www.wunderground.com/US/GA/Atlanta.html#TOW <-- indeed |
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| 16:56 | <londonguy> | npmr thanks; would love to see a tornado for real one day - one of my life goals.. I suppose I better do that before I get a serious girlfriend |
| 17:16 | <npmr> | ugh |
| 17:17 | <npmr> | i saw one |
| 17:17 | <npmr> | it was not fun |
| 17:17 | <npmr> | i was under it |
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| 17:35 | <londonguy> | did you click your heels and go back to kansas? |
| 17:35 | <londonguy> | and do you have any idea how hard it is for an Australian kid to grow up, having watched "The WIzard of Oz", then wondering why people keep referring to australia as "oz"? |
| 17:36 | <@caker> | wait for it... |
| 17:37 | <encode> | londonguy: if you're australian, whats with the nick? |
| 17:37 | <londonguy> | I'm in London at the moment |
| 17:37 | <londonguy> | I'm a legal alien |
| 17:38 | <encode> | haha |
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| 17:38 | <encode> | how long have you been over there? |
| 17:38 | <encode> | (im from .au) |
| 17:38 | <londonguy> | ah.. well here's something - most Brits never heard of Dr Phil |
| 17:39 | <londonguy> | and I always thought it was the Americans that were globally culturally unaware |
| 17:41 | <londonguy> | ok here's a question |
| 17:41 | <londonguy> | my linode on host24 thinks it's a day ahead of now |
| 17:42 | <londonguy> | even taking timezones into account that's not possible |
| 17:42 | <londonguy> | oh wait |
| 17:42 | <londonguy> | forget it |
| 17:42 | <londonguy> | bugger, when I installed ntpdate it synchonised the clock |
| 17:42 | <npmr> | ha ha |
| 17:42 | <londonguy> | I always thought each linode got GMT off the system |
| 17:42 | <npmr> | my tornado was in michigan |
| 17:43 | <npmr> | although i've been to oz |
| 17:43 | <npmr> | and also: |
| 17:43 | <npmr> | !dns kansas.linode.com |
| 17:43 | <@linbot> | npmr: 64.5.53.8 |
| 17:43 | <npmr> | !dns host3.linode.com |
| 17:43 | <@linbot> | npmr: 64.5.53.8 |
| 17:43 | <londonguy> | scary! |
| 17:43 | <npmr> | ^-- that's where dorothy is |
| 17:44 | <encode> | !dns micrososft.com |
| 17:44 | <@linbot> | encode: 72.51.27.51 |
| 17:44 | <encode> | ooh |
| 17:45 | <npmr> | ha ha, registered to an aol user |
| 17:46 | <npmr> | ha ha, an italian aol user |
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| 17:50 | <encode> | npmr: what is? how can you tell? |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | uh, whois |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | Domain Name: MICROSOSFT.COM |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | Administrative, Technical Contact: |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | Dinoia, Michele chiccodin@aol.com |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | SZK.com |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | Via Trilussa 11 |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | Pineto, TE 64025 |
| 17:51 | <npmr> | IT |
| 17:53 | <encode> | oh |
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| 18:13 | [~] | GN lives in KS and wonders what all the fuss is about |
| 18:13 | <@caker> | the blair wichita project |
| 18:14 | <GN> | indeed! |
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| 19:56 | <tester> | http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/ |
| 19:56 | <tester> | http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/ |
| 19:56 | <tester> | http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/ |
| 19:56 | <tester> | http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/ |
| 19:56 | <tester> | =)) |
| 19:56 | <tester> | google |
| 19:56 | <tester> | bye bye =) |
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| 19:57 | <Eman> | what? |
| 20:21 | <warewolf> | that was 43.224.240.85 |
| 20:21 | <warewolf> | 85.240.224.43.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer softbank043224240085.bbtec.net. |
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| 20:22 | <warewolf> | er flipped |
| 20:23 | <warewolf> | 85.240.224.43 |
| 20:23 | <warewolf> | 43.224.240.85.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer bl7-224-43.dsl.telepac.pt. |
| 20:23 | <warewolf> | there. |
| 20:26 | <encode> | gentle(wo)?men, start your nmaps |
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| 20:53 | <@caker> | Who here is on host56 or higher? ..or maybe the better question is: who want's to be? :) |
| 20:55 | <iggy> | where is it? |
| 20:55 | <@caker> | iggy: you're on host71, so that means you |
| 20:55 | <iggy> | not me, the other me |
| 20:56 | [~] | ajmitch is only on host 66 (iirc) |
| 20:56 | <iggy> | iomnis1 is on host39 I think |
| 20:56 | <tierra> | I'd normally be more than happy to jump on a higher performance host, but I've been quite happy being at TP and would not look forward to an IP change |
| 20:56 | <iggy> | it's been kind of flaky lately, we were going to look at moving |
| 20:57 | <@caker> | Anyhow, -- the big secret: host56 and higher Linodes have had their resources doubled. The rest of the hosts to follow. |
| 20:57 | <ajmitch> | caker: uh, both RAM & diskspace? |
| 20:57 | [~] | ajmitch just logged in & saw that there's *lots* more diskspace :) |
| 20:57 | <@caker> | ajmitch: yes. |
| 20:57 | <ajmitch> | oh how very useful |
| 20:57 | <tierra> | whoa... doubled... |
| 20:57 | [~] | tierra gets all giddy |
| 20:57 | <ajmitch> | caker: thanks! |
| 20:58 | <@caker> | You guys are the first to know .. a proper announcement coming soon |
| 20:58 | <tierra> | sweet! |
| 20:58 | [~] | iggy humps caker |
| 20:58 | <ajmitch> | I guess it means I should reboot |
| 20:58 | [~] | tierra thanks caker ahead of time, but will wait patiently @ TP |
| 20:59 | [~] | ajmitch wonders how many linodes now have 1GB of RAM |
| 20:59 | <@caker> | tierra: TP people have two options: Migrate off to Atlanta/Fremont and get upgrades now, or wait |
| 20:59 | <@mikegrb> | caker: migrate me! |
| 20:59 | <@caker> | mikegrb: ok, lemme get mikegrb to set that up |
| 20:59 | <@mikegrb> | should I open a ticket? |
| 21:00 | <@mikegrb> | t/hee |
| 21:00 | <ajmitch> | caker: all the HE hosts are upgraded then? |
| 21:00 | <@mikegrb> | ajmitch: the ones > 56 |
| 21:01 | <ajmitch> | a doubling of resources was the last thing I was expecting :) |
| 21:01 | <@caker> | ajmitch: No, but we've got capacity to migrate enough people off (w/o IP change) to then double each remaining host |
| 21:01 | <ajmitch> | nice |
| 21:01 | <ajmitch> | good thing I migrated to HE awhile ago |
| 21:01 | <iggy> | are people going to be moving off of host39? |
| 21:01 | <@caker> | there'll be a schedule posted as the deadline for each host (after that it's random who we migrate off), but until then people will be able to migrate themselves when they want |
| 21:01 | <efudd> | caker, host resources doubled or resources exported to nodes doubled? |
| 21:02 | <@caker> | efudd: linode resources |
| 21:02 | <iggy> | well... I'm not referring to this little niceness... I'm referring to 39's troubles lately |
| 21:02 | <efudd> | hrm |
| 21:03 | <@caker> | iggy: yeah, I gotcha. We're working on getting more space at TP, but it's been slow going |
| 21:03 | [~] | efudd doesn't need 1GB of ram |
| 21:03 | <@mikegrb> | they don't want to take our money |
| 21:03 | <ajmitch> | efudd: I'll have it! |
| 21:03 | <@mikegrb> | efudd: I'm on the same host, you can give it to me ;) |
| 21:03 | <efudd> | mike, stop stealing my resources! |
| 21:04 | <iggy> | we can move to another DC... we just need to plan it carefully |
| 21:04 | <efudd> | Input Bytes Xfer: 0.02 GiBs Host: host29.linode.com |
| 21:04 | <efudd> | Output Bytes Xfer: 0.10 GiBs Load: IDLE |
| 21:04 | [~] | efudd totally overuses his node already |
| 21:04 | <ajmitch> | hm, that looks pretty overloaded |
| 21:04 | <ajmitch> | yay, this means that I can put squid in front of zope & not have it thrash to death |
| 21:05 | <efudd> | cakerw ants me to spend less money by downgrading methinks :) |
| 21:05 | <efudd> | afk. lost. |
| 21:05 | [~] | ajmitch is 200MB into swap with 384, so doubling it is welcome |
| 21:05 | <tierra> | caker: does bandwidth also apply with the doubling of resources? |
| 21:05 | <@caker> | tierra: yeah, I just haven't done it yet |
| 21:06 | <tierra> | awesome |
| 21:06 | <@caker> | extra ram doubled, too, but not disk space (just did that a few weeks? ago) |
| 21:07 | <ajmitch> | I'm sure that diskspace was only just doubled today or yesterday |
| 21:07 | <ajmitch> | since I didn't have that much free when I checked that dashboard yesterday |
| 21:08 | <@caker> | 30 minutes ago |
| 21:09 | <tierra> | I got 30% more back in Dec with this announcement: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2553 |
| 21:09 | <ajmitch> | caker has been spoiling us |
| 21:09 | <tierra> | you're not talking about that are you? |
| 21:09 | <@caker> | yes, I also lowered the price |
| 21:09 | <ajmitch> | at this rate people will be expecting 8GB RAM by the end of the year :) |
| 21:12 | <tierra> | caker: will that apply retroactive for those paying anually? |
| 21:13 | <tierra> | (as I my annual payment just barely billed today) |
| 21:15 | <tierra> | -I |
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| 21:20 | <@caker> | tierra: yes |
| 21:21 | <tierra> | wow, you've just made my day :) |
| 21:44 | <encode> | hmm, i'd love to have double resources, but i dont want to move from TP |
| 21:45 | <encode> | thanks for finally revealing the secret tho caker |
| 21:58 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Upgrade: 100% Resource Increase! in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2634> |
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| 22:10 | <Xel> | ! |
| 22:10 | <Xel> | WHAT!~ |
| 22:10 | <Xel> | HELL YES! |
| 22:10 | <Xel> | Caker, I love you man |
| 22:11 | <Xel> | Ok reboot time |
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| 22:18 | <Xel> | Woo! |
| 22:18 | <Xel> | Got my new resources! |
| 22:18 | <Xel> | This is awsome |
| 22:18 | <Xel> | hehe |
| 22:18 | <GN> | gratz |
| 22:19 | <Xel> | caker, ya there? |
| 22:19 | <@caker> | yup |
| 22:19 | <Xel> | A minor detail: |
| 22:19 | <Xel> | On my dashboard, it says "Transfer/Mo 50.0 GB" |
| 22:19 | <Xel> | Under the Network Summary area |
| 22:19 | <@caker> | I haven't gotten that far yet :) |
| 22:19 | <Xel> | Ahh ok |
| 22:19 | <Xel> | Didn't know if it was something to mention to you |
| 22:19 | [~] | caker worships you |
| 22:20 | <ajmitch> | haha |
| 22:20 | <Xel> | Caker, I'll tell you. I love you man. |
| 22:20 | <Xel> | In the "You can't have my Bud Light" sort of way |
| 22:20 | [~] | GN blushes |
| 22:21 | <@caker> | pass the JD |
| 22:21 | <@mikegrb> | mmmm |
| 22:21 | <@mikegrb> | JD, the official drink of linode |
| 22:21 | <@caker> | where's the pic? |
| 22:21 | <GN> | hopefully after my migration :P |
| 22:21 | <Xel> | You know, I have this suspicion that caker keeps upping the Linode resources because his personal Linode keeps running out and he is too lazy to create a custom Caker configuration |
| 22:22 | <GN> | lmao |
| 22:22 | <GN> | I could see that |
| 22:22 | <@caker> | http://www.theshore.net/~caker/pics/trips/20060603-JackDanielsDistillery/Dsc00304A1.jpg <-- |
| 22:23 | <@mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/jdtour.jpg |
| 22:23 | <Xel> | "Damnit, I'm out of space again... I REALLY need this new por... err... anatomical documentary with bad music. Ok, time to up the packages again." |
| 22:23 | <@caker> | spot the geeks |
| 22:23 | <@mikegrb> | fo0bar_ is even in there |
| 22:24 | <Xel> | caker, you know that you now not only have a better service than the competition, but you offer more for less cash. |
| 22:24 | <GN> | damn long hairs |
| 22:24 | <@caker> | Xel: exactly |
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| 22:24 | [~] | caker grins evilly |
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| 22:25 | <GN> | what was your link again caker? |
| 22:25 | <Xel> | caker, you should take out a banner on freshmeat.net or something. "Linode - Now with more things to play with on Saturday nights" |
| 22:26 | <@caker> | http://www.theshore.net/~caker/pics/trips/20060603-JackDanielsDistillery/Dsc00304A1.jpg |
| 22:26 | <Xel> | I remember a Speakeasy DSL banner ad that I saw many years ago... It had a picture of Lars Ulrich with his eyes bugging out of his head and a caption of: "Piss off Metallica 100x faster with Speakeasy DSL" |
| 22:26 | <Xel> | I think I have it saved locally |
| 22:27 | <@caker> | mikegrb: IndexOptions NameWidth=* <-- stick that in your httpd.conf somewhere, please |
| 22:28 | <@caker> | that should be in there by default, methinks |
| 22:28 | [~] | caker h8s cut off filenames in directory indexes |
| 22:28 | <Xel> | caker, do you anticipate machines having higher average loads now that people have enough RAM to run a lot more resource-intensive services? |
| 22:28 | <Xel> | ie. CPU load |
| 22:28 | <@caker> | Xel: no, I expect load to decrease |
| 22:28 | <@caker> | CPU has never been the problem -- it's been disk IO (read: swapping) |
| 22:28 | <Xel> | I'm being serious :P Is this why you've been spreading people out? |
| 22:29 | <Xel> | Yea I know |
| 22:29 | <Xel> | I've seen the folks on the forums. |
| 22:29 | <@caker> | No -- it's been because the existing machines need to have Linodes shed off of them to enable us to perform the upgrades on those that are left on the box |
| 22:29 | <Xel> | Ahh |
| 22:29 | <Xel> | Where is Linode officially located, btw? |
| 22:29 | <Xel> | Are you guys local to Calif.? |
| 22:30 | <@caker> | but, on those older boxes it'll be less people (up to half less), at least until those boxes get replaced |
| 22:30 | <@caker> | I'm in Nashville, TN, mikegrb's in Pensacola, FL, and Tom's in Manahawkin, NJ |
| 22:30 | <Xel> | Wow, heh heh |
| 22:30 | <Xel> | So you really are just a few hackers who found a way to make some cash |
| 22:31 | <Xel> | That's cool. |
| 22:31 | <GN> | did mikegrb move? i thought he was west coast. |
| 22:31 | <@caker> | GN: nope |
| 22:31 | <@mikegrb> | caker: No, |
| 22:31 | [~] | mikegrb runs |
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| 22:31 | <@caker> | jdub: :) |
| 22:32 | <jdub> | HOLY CRAP! |
| 22:32 | <Xel> | I'm in LA |
| 22:32 | <jdub> | YOU GUYS ROCK! |
| 22:32 | <@caker> | jdub: bring it |
| 22:32 | [~] | caker gives you a highfive |
| 22:32 | [~] | jdub gets out his blogging stick |
| 22:32 | <Xel> | I never got into blogging |
| 22:32 | <jdub> | permission to use linode logo in sycophantic blog post? :) |
| 22:32 | <Xel> | I feel almost like a reverse-geek sometimes :\ |
| 22:32 | <@caker> | jdub: oh indeed |
| 22:33 | <Xel> | I never really got into blogging, and I haven't really used any form of IM for years now because I don't like it for some reason |
| 22:33 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/images/pr/ <-- some banners and buttons, if you wish, too |
| 22:33 | <Xel> | I should start one I guess. |
| 22:34 | <Xel> | caker, know of any opensource "control panels" a la cpanel and plesk? |
| 22:34 | <jdub> | btw, the new management thingy is really sweet too |
| 22:34 | <@caker> | there are a few, lemme think |
| 22:34 | <GN> | webmin |
| 22:34 | <@caker> | jdub: cool |
| 22:34 | <GN> | :) |
| 22:34 | <Xel> | I've got some folks who I'd love to host sites for but I really don't want to have to make every little config change |
| 22:34 | <Xel> | GN, bah |
| 22:34 | <Xel> | Webmin is lame :P |
| 22:34 | <@mikegrb> | caker: http://thegrebs.com/~michael/ |
| 22:34 | <@caker> | ISPConfig, VHCS, GPLHost |
| 22:34 | <@mikegrb> | caker: just for you |
| 22:34 | <Xel> | Ahh thanks |
| 22:34 | <@caker> | *kiss* |
| 22:34 | <@caker> | mikegrb: I feel so much better now, thanks |
| 22:35 | <@mikegrb> | no prob |
| 22:35 | <jdub> | heh, pity i'm on host24 ;) |
| 22:35 | <@caker> | jdub: want to migrate now? |
| 22:35 | <Xel> | Hahaha |
| 22:35 | <Xel> | caker, that was evil. |
| 22:35 | <Xel> | Just evil. |
| 22:35 | <Xel> | "I don't suppose you might want to... migrate?" |
| 22:36 | <GN> | xel, you should have seen how he told me |
| 22:36 | <jdub> | happy to wait if migrating now involves an ip change |
| 22:37 | <@caker> | it doesn't |
| 22:37 | <jdub> | oh |
| 22:37 | <jdub> | in that case, much appreciated! |
| 22:37 | <@caker> | jdub: ok -- mind shooting us a ticket? |
| 22:37 | <jdub> | ok |
| 22:38 | <GN> | migrating doesn't involve an IP change? |
| 22:39 | <Xel> | Depends on which DC you are in, no? |
| 22:40 | <GN> | perhaps |
| 22:40 | <GN> | I've been away to long. |
| 22:40 | <GN> | stupid full time job |
| 22:42 | <@caker> | one sec |
| 22:42 | <Xel> | VHCS seems to be the best of those |
| 22:44 | <@caker> | GN: check ticket |
| 22:44 | <GN> | werd |
| 22:45 | <GN> | crap CF error |
| 22:47 | <@caker> | jdub: duh -- for some reason, I thought you were on an HE host, my bad |
| 22:48 | <@caker> | jdub: yeah, only way would be to switch ip |
| 22:48 | <jdub> | ok, no worries - i look forward to the upgrade :) |
| 22:48 | <GN> | caker, emailed you the error |
| 22:49 | <Xel> | AFK - dishes |
| 22:55 | <@caker> | beryl looks interesting... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM |
| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | silly caker |
| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | you are so slow |
| 23:03 | <GN> | does the node auto-boot after migration or do i have to click on the button? |
| 23:03 | <@caker> | click it now |
| 23:04 | <GN> | says brand new |
| 23:05 | <GN> | relogin? |
| 23:05 | <@caker> | no? Click the boot button |
| 23:05 | <@mikegrb> | should be a boot button elsewhere |
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| 23:05 | [~] | mikegrb isn't sure on the dashboard |
| 23:05 | <@mikegrb> | caker: post migration the box on the right says brand new, here are the steps to get started |
| 23:06 | <GN> | oh THAT boot button |
| 23:06 | <@caker> | yeah .. I'll fix |
| 23:12 | <GN> | Host Load: idle |
| 23:12 | <GN> | yum |
| 23:18 | <GN> | woot, go linode |
| 23:18 | <GN> | night all |
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| 23:25 | <jdub> | hrm |
| 23:25 | <jdub> | i've just booted a finnix profile |
| 23:25 | <jdub> | but can't get into it via the node host |
| 23:26 | <@mikegrb> | also need to select the finnix initrd |
| 23:27 | <@mikegrb> | that's the one that gets everybody |
| 23:27 | <jdub> | *ah* |
| 23:27 | <jdub> | thanks :) |
| 23:31 | <encode> | yeah, that got me |
| 23:32 | <@mikegrb> | Conversation I just had with my new neighbod: |
| 23:32 | <@mikegrb> | <him> so what do you do? |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <me> I work for this company that sells what is basically vacation time shares but of computer servers |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <him> oh so like VPSs? |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <me> exactly! |
| 23:33 | <npmr> | i kiss you |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <him> who are you with? |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <me> Linode |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <him> !!! |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <him> I know them! |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <me> oh yeah? |
| 23:33 | <@mikegrb> | <him> yeah was planning to get an account there when I finally jump into the vps game |
| 23:34 | <@mikegrb> | I was out for a cigarette, he was letting the dog do it's nightly piddle |
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| 23:52 | <@caker> | praetorian: hello |
| 23:53 | <praetorian> | hi! |
| 23:53 | <praetorian> | i came to ask something, but solved my own question |
| 23:54 | <@caker> | ahh, I figured waiting for activation |
| 23:54 | <@caker> | welcome aboard! |
| 23:54 | <praetorian> | thanks |
| 23:55 | <@mikegrb> | gah, most have been out smoking and missed it |
| 23:55 | <@caker> | :) |
| 23:55 | <@mikegrb> | s/o/u/ |
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