TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2007:02:19

---	Log	opened Mon Feb 19 00:00:36 2007
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00:26	<guinea-pig>	25min/G
00:26	<guinea-pig>	first image just finished
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01:43	<guinea-home>	caker: does atlanta block ports?
01:53	[~]	guinea-home goes to sleep
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02:28	<Nigel>	guinea-pig: FAQ just says "In our Dallas datacenter" still
02:28	<Nigel>	wait, a RAM increase?
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02:34	<ajmitch>	Nigel: last RAM increase was a few weeks ago
02:34	<ajmitch>	unless caker has spoiled people again
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02:43	<Nigel>	ajmitch: i didn't actually know about that one
02:45	<ajmitch>	ah well, you do now :)
03:06	<Nigel>	ajmitch: yeah, i guess I do
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10:47	<npmr>	oh crap
10:49	<npmr>	apt-get, apt-cache, etc are segfaulting
10:51	<@caker>	npmr: rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin ?
10:52	<npmr>	what's that?
10:52	<npmr>	gotta go, i'll try that later today
10:52	<@caker>	some magic thing Mike found to fix that
10:52	<npmr>	thansk
10:52	<@caker>	np
10:55	<@mikegrb>	http://www.virtual-strategy.com/en/podcasts <-- /me has been reloading
10:55	<@mikegrb>	but looks like they post them around 1 or 2 pm
10:55	<@caker>	yeah, he was supposed to email it to be before it went up
10:55	<@caker>	nothing yet
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11:02	<shrap>	gah....
11:02	<shrap>	Why is it i cannot contact a op when i need them?
11:02	<@linbot>	New news from forums: Should I be concerned about this increase in latency? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2621>;
11:02	<@caker>	hmm?
11:02	<shrap>	I cant connect to my linode..again
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11:03	<Xel->	caker, mikegrb, tasaro, around?
11:03	<@caker>	shrap: it pings fine for me here
11:03	<Xel->	caker, is host62 fubar?
11:03	<Xel->	My linode is "frozen"
11:03	<@caker>	hmm
11:03	<Xel->	A shutdown request has been "in progress" for over 3 minutes
11:03	<Xel->	In the queue
11:03	<shrap>	Oh look
11:03	<shrap>	Im not the only one with the prob
11:03	<shrap>	caker
11:04	<Xel->	They just resolved all at once - I'm guessing you killed the queue, heh heh
11:04	<@caker>	I didn't do anything
11:04	<Xel->	SysRq : Emergency Sync
11:04	<Xel->	SysRq : Emergency Sync
11:04	<shrap>	Since Host15 died on me and i was moved to host62 i have been having nothing but problems
11:04	<Xel->	Saw those two in LISH just now, caker
11:05	<shrap>	I still cannot ssh or connect to my linode
11:05	<@caker>	shrap: traceroute? http://pastebin.com/
11:06	<shrap>	trace is fine, thats the wierd thing
11:06	<shrap>	ill paste tho
11:08	<shrap>	If pastebin accepts it..... god damnit i hate when everything slows down to a crawl all at once
11:08	<@mikegrb>	souds like a local conectivity issue
11:09	<Battousai>	sounds like mikegrb's clogging the tubes
11:09	<shrap>	Thats why my linode delinked to my network and discconnected all clients?
11:09	<shrap>	Because my internet is crap?
11:09	<shrap>	http://pastebin.com/884549
11:10	<@caker>	shrap: I'm not so sure about that
11:10	<Battousai>	hmm, pastebin is slow
11:10	<SpaceHobo>	shrap: it's clearly a problem with your drive geometry
11:10	<shrap>	you must be right
11:10	<shrap>	ill kick it
11:10	<@caker>	the kernel on that host needs to be changed, anyway (to fix another issue), but something is definately strange with it currently
11:11	<@caker>	shrap: your sshd is responding now
11:11	<shrap>	wow, my linode just came to life!
11:11	<SpaceHobo>	see? What did I tell you?
11:11	<SpaceHobo>	Drive geometry. Always is.
11:11	<shrap>	haha
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11:11	<Xel>	Thank you caker
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11:11	<shrap>	im getting to the end of my string
11:11	<SpaceHobo>	ooh, can you do around-the-world?
11:12	<SpaceHobo>	or walk-the-dog?
11:12	<shrap>	I tend to smash it on the ground
11:12	<shrap>	And get a new one
11:12	<SpaceHobo>	Sounds cost-effective!
11:12	<SpaceHobo>	But you come on too strong.
11:12	<shrap>	makes me feel b etter
11:12	<SpaceHobo>	Why would I hire you when you come on so strong?
11:12	<Xel>	caker: Is anything odd going on with CPU or disk on host62?
11:12	<shrap>	I already have a job
11:12	<Xel>	Commands are AMAZINGLY laggy on my linode on there still
11:12	<SpaceHobo>	It's a little late to play hard-to-get now, shrap
11:12	<Xel>	For example, I typed su - about 30 seconds ago
11:12	<Xel>	It has yet to ask me for the password
11:13	<shrap>	i just "ls"
11:13	<shrap>	and im counting how long it takes to list
11:13	<SpaceHobo>	time ls
11:13	<Xel>	Logons are similarly slow
11:13	<shrap>	lalalal
11:13	<Xel>	Think host62 needs a reboot or something?
11:14	<shrap>	I think it should be slaped into shape
11:14	<shrap>	1min 20sec
11:14	<SpaceHobo>	I bet you it's someone thrashing against swap or something
11:14	<shrap>	for ls to list
11:14	<SpaceHobo>	shrap: run "time ls"
11:14	<SpaceHobo>	shrap: and then you get Official Results!
11:14	<shrap>	Ahh
11:14	<shrap>	will do
11:14	<shrap>	bah not fair, its responding fast..
11:14	<SpaceHobo>	curses!
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11:15	<Xel>	It's faster now...
11:15	<shrap>	but for how long....
11:15	<Xel>	Ok yea, heh, this host is going a bit wacky
11:15	<SpaceHobo>	that's because caker drained all of the pudding out of the host
11:15	<shrap>	I wanna go back to host 15 :(
11:16	<@caker>	better now?
11:16	<Xel>	Wait what the ...
11:16	<Xel>	caker, it is, but...
11:16	<Xel>	How the hell am I listed on some Tor database
11:16	<SpaceHobo>	mmmm tor
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11:17	<Xel>	Yea heh I know I haven't been rooted
11:17	<Xel>	Unless... CAKER DID IT! :P
11:17	<SpaceHobo>	I used to run tor
11:17	<SpaceHobo>	good stuff
11:17	<shrap>	so its faster now, and everyting auto reconnected...
11:17	<shrap>	Care to tell us what happened caker?
11:18	<SpaceHobo>	30% chance of thrashing guest neighbor, 30% chance of drive geometry, and 70% chance of pudding
11:18	<@caker>	yeah -- the BBU (battery backup uit) reported a high temp, so it took it offline, which turned off write caching on the RAID card
11:18	<SpaceHobo>	that's 130%
11:18	<SpaceHobo>	more than you'd get with competing providers
11:18	<SpaceHobo>	who only offer 110%!
11:19	[~]	caker needs to find something to tweak CPU fans on a running box
11:20	<SpaceHobo>	the HP DL385 G2s reset the fans to maximum during POST
11:20	<SpaceHobo>	because the heat sensor has no history to base anything on
11:20	<SpaceHobo>	so whenever I'm in the DC at work and someone reboots a box, it gives me a heart attack
11:21	<SpaceHobo>	ATOMIC BATTERIES TO POWER. TURBINES TO SPEED!
11:22	<shrap>	batman?
11:22	<SpaceHobo>	is that what that's from?
11:22	<shrap>	Batman broke mylinode?!
11:22	<shrap>	Yes, yes it is :P
11:22	<SpaceHobo>	I always just knew it as an Internet meme
11:22	<shrap>	the old 70's batman
11:22	<SpaceHobo>	I used to watch that show a lot when I was a kid, but I don't remember that line
11:23	<shrap>	They only said it everytime they get in the batmobile :P
11:24	<SpaceHobo>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_puddings
11:24	[~]	SpaceHobo shrugs
11:24	<SpaceHobo>	I was young
11:24	<shrap>	I wasnt even alive when the show was on :P
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11:42	<shrap>	I hope caker used strong tape to keep the linode up
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11:44	<SpaceHobo>	oh no!
11:44	<SpaceHobo>	BATMAN KILLED SHRAP!
11:44	<SpaceHobo>	17:24 <shrap> I wasnt even alive when the show was on :P
11:44	<SpaceHobo>	!!!!!
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11:44	<SpaceHobo>	thanks, linbot
12:02	<afv-13>	linbot: rr
12:02	<@linbot>	afv-13: click
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12:58	<SpaceHobo>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_who_fear_clowns
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14:53	<@caker>	huh . XM and Sirius are merging
14:54	<afv-13>	no longer just speculation?
14:55	<@caker>	they announced that they agreed to merge
14:55	<@caker>	still has to be approved by shareholders
14:56	<@mikegrb>	and fcc and ftc and...
15:00	<@caker>	http://www.virtual-strategy.com/podcasts/2007-02-13_UML_Linode.mp3
15:02	<@mikegrb>	finarly
15:02	<@mikegrb>	ahh
15:03	<@mikegrb>	not linkerated yet
15:03	<@caker>	nope .. backdoor
15:03	[~]	mikegrb uploads to all the torrent sites
15:03	<ajmitch>	ooh, 0-day
15:04	<@mikegrb>	sheesh, only 400 KB/s they need better hosting
15:04	[~]	mikegrb runs
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15:18	<@caker>	huh, sounded pretty darn good, if I do say so myself
15:19	<encode>	should i listen to that at work?
15:20	<@mikegrb>	encode: of course
15:20	<@mikegrb>	encode: unless caker's sexy voice makes you want to touch yourself
15:20	<@mikegrb>	lolz
15:20	<encode>	LOL
15:20	<encode>	ive never heard his voice before
15:21	<Xel>	Wewt
15:21	<@caker>	Xel: indeed
15:21	<Xel>	No, wewt because I just got off of the phone with (ISC)2 :P
15:21	<@caker>	:(
15:21	<Xel>	But everyday is a wewt for Linode
15:21	<@caker>	:)
15:22	<encode>	haha caker got owned
15:27	[~]	mikegrb dd if=/dev/zero of=/linodes/encode/diskimage.img
15:27	<@mikegrb>	haha encode got owned
15:27	[~]	mikegrb runs
15:27	<encode>	ahh damn
15:27	<encode>	i hate it when he does that
15:28	[~]	encode breaks out the arson equipment - this will keep mikegrb happy while i restore my linode
15:38	[~]	guinea-pig decides now's a good time to wake up
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16:08	<guinea-pig>	it does seem Atlanta blocks :(
16:08	<@caker>	guinea-pig: anything that's a show stopper?
16:15	<@mikegrb>	oops
16:15	[~]	mikegrb unblocks port 22 and 80 on guinea-pig's linode
16:16	<npmr>	something very strange is happening with my linode
16:16	<@mikegrb>	maybe it is giving birth
16:16	<npmr>	i've got several processes that have been hung in the D state for several minutes now
16:17	<@caker>	npmr: which host?
16:17	<npmr>	host3
16:20	<npmr>	they're all root-owned processes
16:21	<npmr>	everything else appears to be working
16:21	<@caker>	any better now?
16:21	<npmr>	no
16:22	<npmr>	i'm also getting this repeated on the console:
16:22	<npmr>	unregister_netdevice: waiting for tap0 to become free. Usage count = 1
16:22	<npmr>	i just did the apt fix you suggested this morning and ran apt-get
16:23	<npmr>	it's in the middle of upgrading and stuck on openvpn
16:23	<@caker>	tap0?? You must have been messing with tuntap inside your node to see that
16:23	<npmr>	trying to run anything with sudo is now hanging
16:23	<npmr>	a few tap0-related processes appear to be hung in D state
16:23	<@caker>	ahh
16:24	<@caker>	I've experienced locking (or something) problems with tuntap / network devices in general, in Linux before
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16:24	<npmr>	so then
16:24	<npmr>	how to resolve?
16:24	<npmr>	is this a reboot situation?
16:24	<@caker>	not in my experience. I've usually just waited it out
16:24	<npmr>	ok
16:24	<npmr>	well
16:25	<npmr>	does it take a while?
16:27	<@caker>	not usually, no.... but my scripts end up killing stuff
16:27	<npmr>	what scripts are those/
16:27	<npmr>	?
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16:29	<@caker>	the Linode shutdown scripts, etc
16:29	<npmr>	hmmm
16:29	<npmr>	i'm rebooting then
16:30	<@caker>	that's typically when I see that in dmesg (lingering references to network devices)
16:32	<encode>	i saw that network related message on my gateway at home the other day
16:32	<encode>	couldnt do anything, had to hard power the box
16:32	<encode>	couldnt log in, couldnt ctrl-alt-del, couldnt ssh
16:32	<encode>	still got no idea what happened
16:33	<hurg>	it just got hard killed by the host
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17:10	<guinea-pig>	caker: i updated my ticket with a partial list of blocked ports
17:16	<@mikegrb>	somebody buy me this --> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ST3750640NS-DT&cat=HDD
17:16	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: I never fingered you as a quiter
17:17	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: I always thought you were one to see things through to the end
17:17	<guinea-pig>	eh?
17:17	<fo0bar>	mikegrb: 750s are way too expensive if you consider 500s are $140
17:17	<@mikegrb>	"partial list"
17:17	<@mikegrb>	fo0bar: :<
17:17	<@mikegrb>	fo0bar: I have one free sata connector
17:17	<@mikegrb>	fo0bar: plus, it's not my money?
17:18	<fo0bar>	heh
17:18	<guinea-pig>	mikegrb: i don't know how to make nmap display all the ports, since there's so many it condenses the filtered into a count, and just shows open ports
17:18	<fo0bar>	I bought a 500GB SATA disk for my media center this weekend
17:18	<guinea-pig>	on a full 1-65535 portscan
17:18	<@mikegrb>	oh wow, they filter 6667
17:18	<@mikegrb>	sucky
17:19	<fo0bar>	new HDTV + ATSC HD capture card + lots of disk space = yummy
17:19	<guinea-pig>	and 6669,7000 but not 6668
17:19	<guinea-pig>	but it's inbound and outbound
17:19	<fo0bar>	!!!
17:20	<guinea-pig>	i can't connect to 6667 on a remote irc server :/
17:20	<fo0bar>	15:19 <linbot> Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
17:20	<guinea-pig>	haha
17:20	<guinea-pig>	linbot: rr
17:20	\|-\|	guinea-pig kicked [#linode] linbot [BANG!]
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17:20	[~]	linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
17:20	<guinea-pig>	d'oh
17:20	<guinea-pig>	!!rr
17:23	<@caker>	guinea-pig: I think you want -sA
17:23	<guinea-pig>	mmm
17:24	<guinea-pig>	All 1697 scanned ports on 64.22.71.8 are UNfiltered (1650) or filtered (47)
17:24	<guinea-pig>	doesn't list the ports
17:25	<guinea-pig>	it will with -v though
17:25	<@caker>	yeah, only filtered ports
17:26	<guinea-pig>	but i'm curious to see if the full scan will list the ports
17:26	<guinea-pig>	5 minutes...
17:28	<@caker>	huh ... I can't get it to list the ports when I use -p
17:29	<guinea-pig>	it depends on how many ports you scan, i think
17:30	<@caker>	right .. All 65535 scanned ports on 63.247.71.196 are UNfiltered (65422) or filtered (113)
17:31	<guinea-pig>	almost done
17:31	<guinea-pig>	bah
17:31	<guinea-pig>	All 65535 scanned ports on 64.22.71.8 are UNfiltered (65419) or filtered (116)
17:32	[~]	guinea-pig tries with debugging instead of verbose
17:32	<encode>	did you try with -vvvvvv ?
17:33	<guinea-pig>	encode: -v over 2 is supposedly unaffective
17:33	<@mikegrb>	suposedly
17:34	<encode>	yeah, but what would the software developers know
17:34	<@mikegrb>	right
17:35	<guinea-pig>	ah well, i've got to go pick up pizza
17:35	<guinea-pig>	bbiab
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17:54	<Mumin>	about the atlanta ports being blocked i thought irc was banned anyway
17:55	<Eman>	irc is not banned
17:57	<guinea-pig>	ok. i've got the list of 117 filtered ports
17:58	<Mumin>	ah my bad must have gotten it mixed up with some other provider
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17:58	<guinea-pig>	http://orion.parsed.net/tmp/atlanta.filtered.ports
17:59	<Eman>	wow
18:01	<Eman>	most isps dont even filter that much
18:01	<encode>	thats a lot!
18:01	<guinea-pig>	what besides X uses 6000-6064?
18:02	<guinea-pig>	that's a whole range
18:02	[~]	guinea-pig eats pizza
18:02	<guinea-pig>	chicken and sausage yum
18:05	<Eman>	blocking that much is unacceptable
18:07	<Xel>	Hey caker, when do those big announcements happen?
18:28	<fo0bar>	http://fo0bar.livejournal.com/170499.html <-- wherein I spent a buttload of money on shiny things
18:32	<encode>	fo0bar: interesting
18:33	<fo0bar>	http://www.flickr.com/photos/fo0bar/384445553/ <-- here's a picture in color, but with flash overexposure
18:34	<fo0bar>	(it's hard taking a picture of a TV)
18:34	<fo0bar>	mikegrb was helping out with mad photoshop skillz, but it somehow degraded into MSPAINT pictures of dongs
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18:43	<shrap>	problem with host 62? or that update?
18:49	<shrap>	caker?
18:49	<@caker>	looking
18:49	<@caker>	I think the best course of action is to reboot the host tonight, and set the fans to max
18:49	<shrap>	well im already down
18:49	<shrap>	so im game
18:51	<shrap>	hazaa im back online
18:57	<@mikegrb>	fo0bar: why are you not in planet linode, hmm?
18:58	<fo0bar>	mikegrb: I thought I was
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18:58	<@mikegrb>	hmm
18:58	<@mikegrb>	maybe
18:58	<@mikegrb>	maybe not
18:58	[~]	mikegrb shrugs
18:58	<@mikegrb>	oh, I think livejournal changed feed wotzits
18:59	<Xel>	So mikegrb, who is really 'in charge'. It's caker, right?
19:00	<Xel>	:P~
19:00	<@mikegrb>	yes
19:00	<shrap>	Whoever takes care of me is in charge as far as im concerned :P
19:03	<shrap>	waits for his linode to reboot...so i can restart everything
19:03	<guinea-pig>	yeah, i've noticed LJ hasn't been posting linode updates lately
19:04	<guinea-pig>	meh, rDNS ain't working yet... i'm getting sent emails bounced :(
19:04	<@caker>	shrap: I'll set up a host reboot for tonight .. give everyone at least a few hrs notice
19:05	<@caker>	shrap: hopefully that will alleviate the BBU going offline prob
19:05	<shrap>	whens tonight? its 8pm where i am
19:05	<@caker>	I'm thinking 11PM Eastern
19:05	<shrap>	bleh
19:05	<@caker>	everyone will be shutdown gracefully and auto-booted after the host comes back up
19:05	<shrap>	give everyone notice but anyone with a job can restart their stuff in the morning?
19:06	<guinea-pig>	caker: you get my updated filtered list?
19:06	<@caker>	bleh because you need to start stuff manually?
19:06	<shrap>	yea
19:06	<Nigel>	shrap: setup a one time cronjob?
19:06	<@caker>	shrap: can't set stuff to come back up on its own?
19:06	<guinea-pig>	@reboot
19:06	<shrap>	suppose ill have to
19:06	<Nigel>	or yeah, a @reboot cron
19:08	<Xel>	shrap, there's only so much that you can get from an unmanaged solution :P
19:08	<Xel>	I mean caker is god, but he isn't a whole pantheon
19:09	<guinea-pig>	is he a lesser god or more of a Zeus type?
19:09	<shrap>	be nice if my linode uptime could compete with my box
19:09	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: he's a zeus
19:09	<@mikegrb>	guinea-pig: tasaro and I are the lesser gods ;)
19:10	<@caker>	we'll get this resolved for you ASAP, don't worry
19:10	<@caker>	sorry for the hassle
19:13	<Nigel>	hmmm, you knows deal with much cisco kit?
19:14	<@caker>	if much is a couple switches and basic stuff, then yes
19:19	<Nigel>	anything regarding the ol' 2900 series?
19:19	<@caker>	why would Native Language Support kernel options be under Filesystems in menuconfig??
19:19	<@caker>	Nigel: yeah ?
19:19	<guinea-pig>	NLS is related to FAT isn't it?
19:19	<Nigel>	thinking of grabbing an older 2924XL, for CCNA, just wondering if they are any good etc
19:20	<@caker>	guinea-pig: dunno ... someone asked me to include UTF8 a few days ago (I forget who -- tierra?)
19:22	<Nigel>	"Note: If you want to display filenames with native language characters from the Microsoft FAT file system family or from JOLIET CD-ROMs correctly on the screen, you need to include the appropriate input/output character sets."
19:22	<Nigel>	http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,_NTFS)#Kernel_Configuration
19:27	<erikh>	utf-8 is evil
19:27	<erikh>	eeeeeeeeevil
19:35	<fo0bar>	erikh: yes. if God has wanted us to have more than 26 letters, He would have given them to us in ASCII
19:35	<guinea-pig>	god gave us 30 letters, but moses dropped some of them.
19:42	<erikh>	fo0bar: you've obviously never worked on an i18n project :)
19:42	<erikh>	utf-32 makes sense.
19:43	<@caker>	erikh: ugh (BTDT)
19:43	<@linbot>	New news from forums: Maintenance requiring Reboot: host62 - 2007-02-19 11PM EST in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2622>;
19:45	<@caker>	well, maybe not in the true sense, but I've been around for the "hey, let's put every string in our app in a database for each language" conversions
19:45	<erikh>	caker: no, that's a good chunk of it... what I'm doing now is "we've got utf-8 and we're pulling down malformed content, trying to munge it without mangling the utf-8 in the process"
19:46	<erikh>	perl makes this especially problematic.
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20:04	<Eman>	is there a command like lspci for isa devices?
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20:07	<Nigel>	lsisa?, otherwise, no clue
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20:36	<npmr>	Eman, i believe isapnptools contains such a tool, but i don't know what it's called precisely
20:36	<npmr>	bear in mind that isa has no built-in device discovery mechanism like pci does
20:36	<npmr>	plug-and-play was very much a hacked-on afterthought
20:40	<Eman>	im just very confused at how linux handles isa
20:45	<npmr>	it's not linux
20:45	<npmr>	it's isa
20:45	<npmr>	the confusion was built in
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22:05	<@caker>	ok, bringing down host62 Linodes...
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22:16	<guinea-pig>	byebye host62
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