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| 01:18 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: iptables --cmd-owner in Linux Networking <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2540> |
| 01:30 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2535> |
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| 03:04 | <londonguy> | we all know the linode https server isn't happy right? |
| 03:04 | <londonguy> | https://www.linode.com/ - not happy |
| 03:05 | <londonguy> | oh correction - it is letting me log in now |
| 03:05 | <londonguy> | yay |
| 03:05 | <londonguy> | :) |
| 03:06 | <londonguy> | hmm.. in week 51 my processor load jumped from 0.6% to 1.0% average.. I wonder what happened.. *goes looking* |
| 03:10 | <londonguy> | oh I think I know what I did |
| 03:10 | <londonguy> | I added a cronjob, no that can't explain it, was a very tiny extra cron rule.. compared to the others I have.. |
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| 03:59 | <londonguy> | andrew w |
| 03:59 | <londonguy> | how is zen |
| 03:59 | <londonguy> | I'm with talktalk, they are rubbish |
| 04:00 | <londonguy> | continually dropping out, not serving some websites, etc etc |
| 04:00 | <londonguy> | and, uh, andrew_j_w are you in Berkshire |
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| 07:05 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Kernel: 2.6.19-linode26 (Latest 2.6) in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2530> |
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| 09:59 | <steve_> | Hi - anyine here? |
| 09:59 | <steve_> | anyone even |
| 10:01 | <@caker> | steve_: hello |
| 10:02 | <steve_> | hi |
| 10:03 | <steve_> | are you a visitor or do you work for Linode? |
| 10:04 | <@caker> | I'm the founder :) -- what can we do for you? |
| 10:04 | <steve_> | Cool - It's a great system |
| 10:04 | <@caker> | thank you |
| 10:05 | <steve_> | I have a couple of nodes and we've bought some extra disk and RAM for one of them |
| 10:05 | <steve_> | I've added the extra RAM |
| 10:06 | <steve_> | but I'm trying to figure out how to stretch the existing disk image to use all the new disk... |
| 10:06 | <@caker> | ok.. |
| 10:06 | <@caker> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2553 <-- scroll down to the Instructions section |
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| 10:07 | <steve_> | simple as that - I'll give it a go right now - thanks |
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| 11:33 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Reboot: host35 in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2569> |
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| 11:46 | <LinodeJavaUser> | Hello :-) is host35 having a problem? |
| 11:46 | <kvandivo> | 11:33:07 < linbot> New news from forums: Reboot: host35 in System and Network Status |
| 11:47 | <kvandivo> | 11:33:07 < linbot> New news from forums: Reboot: host35 in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2569> |
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| 11:48 | <warewolf> | caker- so do you think the kernel VM stuff in the latest 2.6 kernel is a blessing for linode or no? |
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| 12:00 | <@caker> | warewolf: I do |
| 12:00 | <@caker> | although I haven't messed with it yet |
| 12:00 | <@caker> | It sure seems a hell of a lot simpler than Xen -- but Xen can still do virt on non-VT hardware |
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| 12:31 | <warewolf> | # rgharm00@deckard:~$ sleep $[3*60]; xsetroot -solid red |
| 12:31 | <warewolf> | ^ TEA TIMER! |
| 12:33 | <npmr> | heh |
| 12:34 | <npmr> | i just steep it until i can't see the bottom |
| 12:34 | <npmr> | a good dark black |
| 12:36 | <chris> | I haven't heard much out of Xen in a while |
| 12:39 | <npmr> | looks like one message on xen-announce in december... 3.0.4 release... nothing since |
| 12:40 | <npmr> | -devel looks active, though |
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| 12:50 | <@caker> | damb -- KVM already supports suspend to disk |
| 12:50 | <@caker> | http://kvm.sourceforge.net/migration.html <-- some of live migration, too |
| 12:56 | <Battousai> | wow |
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| 13:49 | <jdashton> | host35 is down for a second time today? (2:49 Eastern time) |
| 13:50 | <@caker> | jdashton: hello -- it looks fine from here |
| 13:51 | <jdashton> | Um, thanks for checking <smile> |
| 13:51 | <jdashton> | I'm sure I had my servers back online after your earlier reboot today, but they're down at the moment. I'm restarting my image. |
| 13:52 | <@caker> | jdashton: I should also mention that at the time I looked, I was able to ping your node, too |
| 13:52 | <@caker> | in other words, before you restarted... |
| 13:53 | <jdashton> | That's good to know. |
| 13:54 | <jdashton> | I had just done a 'yum install phpMyAdmin', which, I suppose, might have brought down the server before hanging. |
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| 14:35 | <yes> | hello |
| 14:35 | <yes> | is there something wrong with host35 that would cause it to go very slowly right now? |
| 14:37 | <kvandivo> | caker: form your answer using his name. i'd recommend something like "yes, no" or "no, yes".. or, if you want leave him perplexed, just a simple "yes".. and then'll he'll have to wait to see if there's more... |
| 14:37 | <yes> | hahahaha |
| 14:37 | <@caker> | yes: your node is thrashing |
| 14:38 | <yes> | my name isn't usually yes, I just changed it because I don't want my regular nick to show up in search engines |
| 14:38 | <kvandivo> | yes |
| 14:38 | |-| | yes changed nick to supermangold |
| 14:38 | <supermangold> | there, completely unambiguous |
| 14:38 | <supermangold> | BTW, what's you guys's favourite color of superman? |
| 14:39 | <kvandivo> | what are the options? |
| 14:39 | <supermangold> | caker- what is "thrashing"? |
| 14:39 | <supermangold> | caker- I just wanna know, is it my fault that my server is super slow, or not? |
| 14:39 | <supermangold> | I'm not that good with linux, I don't know what else to do but run "top", and top shows everything as normal |
| 14:40 | <kvandivo> | http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/IO_Tokens |
| 14:41 | <@caker> | supermangold: you need to reduce your node's memory usage -- it's hitting swap |
| 14:44 | <supermangold> | hmm |
| 14:44 | <@caker> | supermangold: need help? |
| 14:44 | <supermangold> | well, it's been hitting swap since I set it up 2 years ago or something |
| 14:44 | <@caker> | supermangold: yes, and I've been dealing with your node thrashing since then... :) |
| 14:45 | <supermangold> | Oh, you should have told me (or were you trying to?) |
| 14:45 | <@caker> | it's all good -- want me to walk you through thinning down apache a bit? |
| 14:45 | <supermangold> | how do you know which one is mine? |
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| 14:45 | <@caker> | 15:35 < yes> hello |
| 14:46 | <kvandivo> | You say yes... I say no.. |
| 14:46 | <kvandivo> | You say stop and I say go.. go.. go... |
| 14:48 | <supermangold> | I don't think apache is what's taking all the ram |
| 14:49 | <@caker> | grep MaxClients /path/to/your/httpd.conf ? |
| 14:50 | <kvandivo> | grep: /path/to/your/httpd.conf: No such file or directory |
| 14:50 | [~] | kvandivo runs and hides. |
| 14:50 | <Battousai> | hmm |
| 14:50 | <Battousai> | i have one... which distro? |
| 14:51 | <Battousai> | oh it's empty |
| 14:51 | <Battousai> | i must've catted to it |
| 14:52 | <supermangold> | caker- no one goes to my web site anyway. It's spamassassin and clamd taking all the ram |
| 14:52 | <Battousai> | those'll do it, usually |
| 14:52 | <@caker> | supermangold: word. I think there's a flag to make it only use one thread |
| 14:53 | <@caker> | others may have better suggestions ... |
| 14:53 | <supermangold> | caker- which one? |
| 14:53 | <Battousai> | heh, more ram... guess that doesn't help here |
| 14:53 | <supermangold> | Yeah, I noticed they spawn like a hundred copies of themselves |
| 14:53 | <supermangold> | Someone told me that they share ram though |
| 14:53 | <supermangold> | Or, I somehow got that impression from somewhere (some web page I guess) |
| 14:54 | <kvandivo> | i think that making the decision to not do mail on my node way back when i first got it was a wise decision indeed |
| 14:54 | <Battousai> | well the io isn't bad without server-side scanning |
| 14:55 | <ajmitch> | spamassasin itself is pretty io-heavy, even when you discount its ram usage |
| 15:00 | <linbot> | New news from forums: Adding a second linode in Sales Questions and Answers <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2520> |
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| 15:31 | <GN> | or gmail... |
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| 15:41 | <fh> | hi |
| 15:41 | <GN> | hi |
| 15:41 | <fh> | I'm trying to confirm that linode systems support openswan. It should, but I'd really like a confirmation before ordering. |
| 15:42 | <fh> | what can I do about it? |
| 15:42 | <fh> | (thanks) |
| 15:43 | <npmr> | i don't know if it's openswan, specifically, but there is IPSec support |
| 15:44 | <npmr> | fh, is there something i can check for in the kernel config that would answer your question? |
| 15:44 | <fh> | if you could "apt-get install openswan" then you could run the command "ipsec verify" |
| 15:45 | <fh> | "ipsec verify" checks the kernel |
| 15:47 | <npmr> | this package sure asks a lot of questions |
| 15:47 | <fh> | :) |
| 15:48 | <kvandivo> | did you check the announcements forum? it gives all the kernel configs used |
| 15:48 | <fh> | the defaults are fine :) |
| 15:48 | <kvandivo> | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=16 |
| 15:48 | <fh> | kvandivo, yes I did, that's why I'm almost sure the verifications will run |
| 15:48 | <npmr> | looks supported |
| 15:49 | <npmr> | looks like i'm missing some dns stuffs that i'd need |
| 15:49 | <npmr> | and a key |
| 15:49 | <npmr> | but everything else says [OK] |
| 15:49 | <fh> | great! |
| 15:49 | <fh> | its a debian kernel_ |
| 15:49 | <fh> | ? |
| 15:50 | <npmr> | no |
| 15:50 | <fh> | ubuntu? |
| 15:50 | <npmr> | linode has its own kernels |
| 15:50 | <fh> | ok |
| 15:50 | <npmr> | but i am running debian sarge |
| 15:50 | <fh> | great |
| 15:50 | <fh> | so I will order that |
| 15:50 | <fh> | thank you very much npmr! |
| 15:51 | <npmr> | sure, no problem |
| 15:51 | <kvandivo> | sure would be nice if linode had a pyramid thing going.. when a person joins they could list the names of the people that pushed them over the edge... |
| 15:51 | <fh> | yes |
| 15:52 | <GN> | haha, earn $1000's from home |
| 15:52 | <fh> | I'd really would like to tell linode I will be buying thanks to your help |
| 15:52 | <kvandivo> | well, that's what you are doing right now |
| 15:52 | <GN> | you just did ;) |
| 15:52 | <kvandivo> | it's just that linode doesn't care enough to pay those who help |
| 15:52 | <GN> | lmao |
| 15:52 | [~] | kvandivo glares at the ampersands. |
| 15:53 | <kvandivo> | err.. the 'at' signs, rather. |
| 15:54 | <npmr> | fh, the admins are all here in the channel |
| 15:56 | <supermangold> | hmm, supposedly spamassassin 3.2.0 uses less ram |
| 15:56 | <supermangold> | The only problem is, it's not released yet |
| 15:57 | <GN> | supermangold: gmail will filter the spam and virus check it using no ram |
| 15:57 | <GN> | :) |
| 15:57 | <supermangold> | it also will I can't use my domain |
| 15:59 | <GN> | http://www.google.com/a/ |
| 15:59 | <GN> | gmail for your domain |
| 16:02 | <supermangold> | Hmm, I didn't know about that |
| 16:02 | <supermangold> | Does it put ads for gmail in all of my emails? |
| 16:04 | <GN> | it's just a custom site for your domain, works the same as regular gmail |
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| 16:12 | [~] | npmr uses a ton of postfix gubbins to screen incoming mail before it's delivered, followed by clamscan and bogofilter on the small fraction of attempted mail that reaches delivery |
| 16:12 | <supermangold> | Can you get the e-mail with pop3 or imap or something? |
| 16:13 | <kvandivo> | from gmail? yes |
| 16:22 | <supermangold> | Hooray! |
| 16:28 | <Battousai> | pop3 only i believe |
| 16:45 | <supermangold> | If I upgraded linode, would I get more IO tokens? |
| 16:46 | <@caker> | supermangold: no -- tokens should only serve the purpose of a brake for run-away linodes, and as a method for us to limit them as to not affect others on the same host |
| 16:46 | <@caker> | supermangold: ideally, you should never hit the limiter in normal usage, and if you do, the refill is set high enough as to not completely cripple the node |
| 16:48 | <supermangold> | My tokens are going from full to zero just trying to recompile php |
| 16:50 | <@caker> | supermangold: your node is 130M into swap .. that's more in swap than you've got RAM. |
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| 17:19 | <supermangold> | Down to 24MB |
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| 17:20 | <supermangold> | Not sure if it will make a difference though, I only did it by getting rid of processes that are almost always idle (ie. no reason for thier ram to be paged in) |
| 17:32 | <supermangold> | Somehow refill just changed from 100 to 512 |
| 17:37 | <GN> | did it make a slot machine sound? |
| 17:43 | <tronix> | ps -efl might give insight into memory-hungry stuff |
| 17:43 | <tronix> | that'd be a good starting point |
| 17:43 | <tronix> | not perfect, but reasonable |
| 17:44 | <tronix> | mmm slot machine sounds |
| 17:44 | <tronix> | almost as good as that new car smell :) |
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| 18:02 | <supermangold> | Seems it's the 10 copies of mysql that are running |
| 18:02 | <linbot> | New news from forums: AAAA Records & Subdomain Delagation in DNS Manager Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2570> |
| 18:02 | <supermangold> | I don't know how to get it to run less copies |
| 18:03 | <supermangold> | In any case, they're idle, so I can't imagine why their memory would be paging in |
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| 18:07 | <linbot> | New news from forums: AAAA Records & Subdomain Delegation in DNS Manager Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2570> |
| 18:18 | <tsuyoshi> | probably a better idea to compile stuff on another box |
| 18:40 | <supermangold> | I dunno, doesn't it go searching for locations of .so's and stuff? |
| 18:41 | <supermangold> | I guess in some cases I could do configure on the linode, and make somewhere else, but I don't even have another linux computer |
| 18:54 | <tsuyoshi> | why are you compiling php, anyway? |
| 18:56 | <supermangold> | I wanted to add zip support |
| 18:56 | <supermangold> | Anyway, it finally finished |
| 18:56 | <supermangold> | I just stopped make with ctrl-c a bunch of times and ran make again, until it finished |
| 18:57 | <supermangold> | err, and waited for the tokens to go back to full after pressing ctrl-c |
| 18:57 | <tsuyoshi> | you're probably better off using ctrl-z |
| 18:58 | <supermangold> | oh, didn't know about that |
| 18:58 | <supermangold> | thanks! |
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