TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2007:01:08

---	Log	opened Mon Jan 08 00:00:23 2007
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01:07	<npmr>	linbot, roulette
01:07	<linbot>	npmr: click
01:20	<Nigel>	linbot, rr
01:20	<linbot>	Nigel: click
01:21	<Nigel>	it's not even oped
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01:28	\|-\|	mode/#linode [+o linbot] by mikegrb
01:28	<@mikegrb>	liar
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02:22	<encode>	so what does one do with a nokia n800?
02:26	<Nigel>	throw it in the bin?
02:28	<Nigel>	i actually doubt we have the n800 in NZ
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02:31	<Nigel>	so yeah, not the best person to diccuss mobiles with
02:31	<Nigel>	linbot, rr
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02:31	[~]	linbot reloads and spins the chambers.
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02:31	<Nigel>	now now, linbot, that wasn't very nice ;)
02:34	<tierra>	linbot: rr
02:34	<@linbot>	tierra: click
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05:49	<guinea-pig>	linbot: rr
05:49	<@linbot>	guinea-pig: click
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09:56	<djsmith>	Howdy all. Quick question: Does my network transfer total have an unmetered period (like nights or weekends)?
09:57	<iggy>	no
09:57	<djsmith>	Thanks iggy.
09:58	<kvandivo>	there's a concept i've never heard of
09:58	<tjfontaine>	just like sprint!
09:58	<djsmith>	My ISP does it -- just wondering if perhaps Linode did it too.
09:59	<djsmith>	Encourages large transfers during off peak hours.
09:59	<iggy>	your isp uses it as an incentive to lessen load during the day, linode doesn't have such problems
10:00	<djsmith>	Yup.
10:00	<djsmith>	But Linode's ISP might.
10:01	<iggy>	hosting ISPs don't generally have that problem
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10:32	<timber>	mikegrb: ping
10:34	<timber>	caker or tasaro: ping
10:35	<tjfontaine>	it's always helpful if you can to provide your question along with the ping
10:37	<timber>	support ticket #23820
10:37	<timber>	mike planned on watching the account for 24 hrs and give info
10:37	<@mikegrb>	timber: hey
10:38	<timber>	heya mike
10:38	<@mikegrb>	timber: yeah, I've been watching the host since then
10:38	<timber>	just went though a bad slowdown....
10:38	<timber>	did you see it?
10:38	<@mikegrb>	host cpu and io has been excellent, I'd imagine it is the least loaded host we have
10:38	<@mikegrb>	no, not on the host, the host was fine
10:38	<@mikegrb>	so I'd suggest investigating the mysql avenue
10:39	<kvandivo>	you know.. not many companies have tech support that would stay away for 24 hours continually typing 'top' on a host just to see if anything has gone awry
10:39	<@mikegrb>	lolz
10:39	<timber>	lol, no doubt
10:39	<@mikegrb>	silly kvandivo "vmstat 1"
10:39	<@mikegrb>	kvandivo: then you just have to scroll back through when you come back :>
10:40	<kvandivo>	well excuse me for trying to make you look better than you are
10:40	<AndyHat>	Are there any issues on host28?
10:40	<@mikegrb>	lemme take a look
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10:48	<@mikegrb>	AndyHat: yeah, working on it
10:48	<AndyHat>	OK, thanks.
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11:28	<WonderClown>	host28 is much better now, thanks
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15:11	<poundss>	hi.. anyone have a problem with Mounted root hang?.. i used linux gentoo 2.6.19 with skas3 on host and vanilla linux 2.6.19.1
15:11	<tjfontaine>	this is a general uml question?
15:13	<poundss>	ahh yes.. i mean after i run uml
15:14	<tjfontaine>	you should /join #uml
15:14	<poundss>	Oops.. sorry.. wrong channel
15:14	<@linbot>	New news from forums: mysql upgrade in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2564>;
15:19	<@linbot>	New news from forums: webmin and remote admin in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2565>;
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15:25	<Nigel>	pound is turning into a snake
15:27	<tjfontaine>	I've only heard of pound cakes
15:27	<tjfontaine>	badump-tish!
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16:17	<Deckert>	ummm ... anybody know how to mount an empty disk image under an existing Linode?
16:18	<Deckert>	Or should I reboot my linode for the disk to become visible so I can mount it?
16:18	<tjfontaine>	once it's in your config profile I believe you must reboot to see the new disk
16:19	<Deckert>	aha ... thought it may be something like that
16:19	[~]	Deckert reboots
16:22	[~]	Deckert scratched his head ...
16:22	<Deckert>	doesn't seem to have done it ...
16:22	<Deckert>	I see the following on my kernel command-line
16:23	<Deckert>	ubda=/linodes/tva/xxxxx.fs ubdb=/linodes/tva/xxxxx.fs where xxxxx is a number
16:23	<@caker>	Deckert: did you add it to your Configuration Profile before booting?
16:24	<Deckert>	I guess that identifies my partition in the global storage
16:24	<@caker>	because .. it's not there
16:24	<Deckert>	hmm...
16:24	<Deckert>	indeed!
16:24	<tjfontaine>	caker: I treid to tell him :)
16:24	<tjfontaine>	damn my typing.
16:25	<Deckert>	tjfontaine, you did try - I was reading too fast (or is that badly?) to see the first part ....
16:26	<Deckert>	caker, thanks.
16:26	<tjfontaine>	:)
16:26	<tjfontaine>	that's why I said it first
16:26	<Deckert>	grin
16:26	<Deckert>	caker: perhaps add a short note when the image is created? (Remember to add the newly created image to your profile before you restart your linode)
16:27	<Deckert>	especially for nitwits like me :-)
16:31	<Deckert>	caker, I'm sure you hear this often, but once again, thanks for a great service. I'm in South Africa and there is simply no better service that I could find.
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17:54	<tronix>	somebody munching at the CPU on .. host28?
17:54	<tronix>	load was 28 when I saw control briefly
17:54	<tronix>	wasn't from me swapping thuogh :)
17:54	<tronix>	can't tell if it's one of my processes eating the CPU or not
17:58	<tronix>	okay, guess whomever was having a giggle or two has toned it down.
17:58	<tronix>	load's < 5
17:58	<tronix>	cool.
17:58	[~]	caker fixed -- thrasher
17:58	<tronix>	ahhh
17:59	<tronix>	thanks :)
18:00	[~]	tronix back to fun -- thanks!! &
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18:39	<AndyHat>	Looks like somebody's killing host28 again.
18:45	<@caker>	AndyHat: we can move you to a much faster box, but it would require an IP change -- interested?
18:46	<AndyHat>	Sure.
18:49	<AndyHat>	Well, it'll probably be tomorrow before we can do the changeover, since I don't think i can reach all of the node's users tonight.
18:49	<@caker>	AndyHat: ok -- I'll configure the migration and IP now -- you can initiate it when you're ready
18:50	<AndyHat>	Cool. Thanks!
18:50	<@caker>	AndyHat: just know, that the new IP will become active on reboot -- regardless if you migrate or not
18:50	<efudd>	Hmmm.
18:50	<@caker>	and it obviously won't be routed until you migrate
18:52	<AndyHat>	OK. I'll make sure we get migrated ASAP.
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19:20	<tronix>	hmm. interesting day. ;)
19:20	[~]	tronix stays parked for time being
19:21	<@caker>	tronix: interested in moving off host28?
19:22	<tronix>	:)
19:22	<tronix>	don't mind if so
19:23	<@caker>	how do you feel about an IP/datacenter change? That's where the super-duper new hosts reside currently
19:23	[~]	tronix thinks
19:24	<tronix>	I like the idea but I've probably got to work out logistics
19:24	<tronix>	since I host a NS
19:24	<@caker>	ok -- lemme see what's in your current dc..
19:24	<tronix>	otherwise, I can probably suck it in and live with it if it's just
19:24	<tronix>	'one of these days'
19:27	<@caker>	It very well may not be -- I'd prefer to get a few people off tha box to lighten the load a bit.
19:27	<tronix>	gotcha
19:27	<@caker>	Unfortunatly, nothing open in the current DC
19:27	<tronix>	understood
19:27	<@caker>	Did I mention how super-duper the new hosts are? :)
19:27	<tronix>	hahaha
19:27	[~]	tronix thinks real hard
19:28	<@mikegrb>	tronix: he will throw in a free cake!
19:28	<tronix>	hahaha
19:28	<@mikegrb>	mmm cake
19:28	<tronix>	mmm cake
19:28	<tronix>	caker: how about if you can give me a preallocated new IP now, then
19:29	<tronix>	I can update the NS
19:29	<tronix>	wait 1 hr for propagation
19:29	<@mikegrb>	good boy
19:29	<tronix>	then move?
19:29	<tronix>	and I'll sort it out with the registrar
19:29	<tronix>	I only just need enough time for secondaries to pick up
19:29	<@caker>	tronix: one sec
19:29	<tronix>	np
19:29	<tronix>	mikegrb: hahaha
19:29	[~]	caker opens a ticket for ya
19:30	<tronix>	thanks!!
19:33	<@mikegrb>	mmm apple keynote tommorow
19:34	<@caker>	mikegrb: any bets?
19:35	<@mikegrb>	maybe some new airport base stations
19:35	<@caker>	I'm thinking either an Apple TV + iTV thing, OR the iPhod
19:35	<@mikegrb>	probably stuff related to the itv
19:35	<@caker>	iPhod<tm> - iPod/Phone combo
19:36	<@mikegrb>	apple spread sheet program in iworks or whatever it is called
19:37	<@caker>	tasaro turned me onto the Airpot Express -- it's awesome
19:37	<@caker>	wireless transmission to speakers through iTunes
19:37	<@tasaro>	It's our best airport express yet!
19:37	<@mikegrb>	yeah the express is pretty cool
19:37	<@mikegrb>	and good price for what it can do
19:37	<@mikegrb>	does usb print server or some such too doesn't it?
19:38	<@tasaro>	Yeah, too bad they disable the ethernet port when you are bridging it with another wireless router...
19:39	<@mikegrb>	just get an xbox360 and connect360
19:39	<@mikegrb>	itunes music on the xbox
19:39	<@mikegrb>	and iphoto pictures
19:39	<@mikegrb>	the pictures look awesome
19:39	<@mikegrb>	high def baby
19:42	<@tasaro>	heh.. at the bottom of the list of rumors/predictions on one of the rumor sites:
19:42	<@tasaro>	* Microsoft will be taking notes on what to include in the next version of Windows, scheduled for release in 2009 (actual release date: 2013).
19:42	<efudd>	ute.
19:42	<efudd>	cute.
19:43	<efudd>	lame.
19:43	<efudd>	connect360 is macos only
19:44	<@mikegrb>	well, yes ;)
19:44	<@mikegrb>	there is a similiar windows program or there is the free? software from ms for doing the same
19:44	<@mikegrb>	tjfontaine: what was the media server software you told me about?
19:45	<@mikegrb>	efudd: http://tversity.com/
19:46	<@mikegrb>	efudd: the spiffy thing there is it does on the fly transcoding to wmv for the 360
19:46	<@mikegrb>	so you just have a dir full of xvid, mpeg4, whatever and it all plays on the xbox
19:46	<@mikegrb>	I realy wish connect360 did that
19:47	<@linbot>	New news from forums: UML performance question in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2566>;
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19:49	<efudd>	oh. neat.
19:50	[~]	efudd installs
19:53	<efudd>	damn mike. i might love you again.
19:53	<tronix>	hmm I probably should disable hwclock in ubuntu :P
19:53	[~]	efudd tries to make the x360 connect
19:54	<tronix>	w00t, kicked both sets of secondaries, so I'm migrating now
19:54	<@mikegrb>	efudd: will, save some of that love for tj, he told me about it
19:54	<@mikegrb>	alas, no windows pc
19:55	<efudd>	SWEET
19:55	<efudd>	"Tversity on confusion"
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20:01	<efudd>	bah
20:01	<efudd>	mediaserver.exe has encountered a problem....
20:01	[~]	efudd cries
20:02	<efudd>	ya, this isn't transcodin on the fly. :P
20:04	<efudd>	odd. works fine with the pr0n. just not the other stuff.
20:07	<efudd>	AVI files cause it to fall down go boom.
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20:34	<efudd>	sweet. working.
20:39	<efudd>	Kinda. hrm. 720p stuff won't play ><
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21:10	<h6w>	Hey, after an upgrade to mysql5, my linode seems to be fighting over memory.
21:11	<h6w>	http://pastebin.ca/310780
21:13	<@caker>	h6w: which kernel, and do you have any swap enabled?
21:14	<h6w>	2.6.19-linode26
21:14	<h6w>	Yes, I have swap.
21:15	<h6w>	I've tried it on a couple of previous kernels and it has the same problem, so I don't think it's a kernel problem.
21:16	<h6w>	320MB of swap.
21:16	<@caker>	How much swap in use?
21:16	<@caker>	near or just before the time it OOMs
21:17	<@caker>	because:
21:17	<@caker>	#
21:17	<@caker>	Total swap = 328696kB
21:17	<@caker>	#
21:17	<@caker>	Free swap: 0kB
21:17	<@caker>	which isn't saying much (OOM killer does things I yet to understand)
21:17	<@caker>	anyhow, I'd first look at the easy stuff: reducing apache's memory usage by reducing MaxClients and friends
21:18	<h6w>	Yeah, it's strange, tho. It's coasted along for about 5 hours with a load of <1 and then suddenly increases to 45 over the space of about 3 monutes.
21:19	<h6w>	Hmmm, now it's back to 6 again.
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21:24	<h6w>	How do I tell how much swap is in use?
21:25	<h6w>	I've ascertained that swap is active. It's listed in /etc/fstab
21:25	<@tasaro>	free
21:26	<h6w>	cool. 61MB used.
21:26	<h6w>	At the moment
21:27	<h6w>	'OK. Load is back down to 2.2. I'll try phpmyadmin now to see if that causes it.
21:27	<h6w>	Nope.
21:28	<h6w>	Hmmm. In that case it must be a similar problem to yesterday. I read there had been a few changes to the MySQL language, so I fixed a few of them and that brought the load down to <1.
21:29	<h6w>	Going to have to go back through my code with a fine tooth comb. :-\|
21:38	<efudd>	http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/72701796/ <- hot.
21:41	<h6w>	True, under the bonnet. But where's the twizzle-display??
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22:02	<Administrator>	is there a point in the future where linode will accept paypal?
22:03	<h6w>	Yeah, I'd love that, too. Everything else I do runs paypal.
22:04	<h6w>	However, also being a paypal seller, I know that it has one major problem.
22:04	<h6w>	People can discontinue a 'contract' at any time, without warning or discussion with the seller.
22:05	<h6w>	I'm forever chasing people who 'accidentally' cancel an ongoing payment.
22:05	<Administrator>	h6w: i think you can do the same thing in the linode panel
22:05	<Administrator>	Cancel account that is
22:06	<h6w>	Yeah, but cancelling an ongoing payment isn't the same as cancelling an account.
22:06	<h6w>	And it's harder to stop them doing that.
22:06	<h6w>	Paypal doesn't have an "Are you sure? Cancelling an ongoing payment means cancelling the account."
22:07	<Administrator>	yeah that is true
22:07	<h6w>	And in 99.9% of cases, my clients didn't know that was what they were doing.
22:07	<h6w>	And you cant' just reconnect it and keep going. You have to start another contract with a new date.
22:08	<h6w>	contract=ongoing payment.
22:10	<encode>	yeah, one annoying thing about paypal is if you change your credit card, removing the old one from paypal discontinues the ongoing payments made with that card
22:10	<encode>	instead of transferring them to the new one
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22:50	<efudd>	< eFUDd> Then again, I also suggested 2 years ago that linode have a minimum aptitude test for purchasers.
22:50	<efudd>	< eFUDd> I'm an asshole. :/
22:50	<efudd>	< blake-> I would still be looking for hosting.
22:50	<efudd>	crazy what one finds on the intarwebnet
22:50	<efudd>	< blake-> :-\
22:51	<@caker>	You must be this high to ride this ride
22:51	<@caker>	well, at least this tall :)
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23:05	<tjfontaine>	ha ha, ha ha ohio state ha ha
23:05	<@caker>	tjfontaine: c r e a m e d
23:06	<h6w>	As in, caker and cream? :-)
23:06	<tjfontaine>	caker: I love being a michigan fan in ohio :)
23:29	<internat>	did blake end up losing his node or..?
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