TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2007:01:05

---	Log	opened Fri Jan 05 00:00:56 2007
00:13	<taupehat>	http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OR_SOAP_STAR_ATTACK_OROL-?SITE=ORMED&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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02:11	<internat>	so im not sure if anyone here has done this but if so, is there a decent way of running 2 servers, which are pretty much mirrors of each other (without using a shared file storage medium) that if one dies clients get directed one way, and vice versa? i was thinking backup mx etc but that doesnt really provide redunancy to clients.. if the server dies, there email is being collected but they cant get to it.. im looking at ways arround that
02:28	<tierra>	I am slightly curious about how others go about that myself. The only way I know how to do something like that is by tying your DNS server to a monitoring script or service and having DNS automatically change the IPs if a failure is detected. But that method is horrible since DNS is cached a lot of the time, and the fallback server also needs monitored (no point in switching if the backup is down too).
02:31	<tierra>	Also, I know some of that is handled on higher levels by either round-robin DNS mixed with geo-location server selection (if one goes down, only a certain percentage of people are affected).
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02:31	<@caker>	http://www.linux-ha.org/
02:32	<Battousai>	aww i thought that would be a joke site
02:32	<Battousai>	oh well
02:32	<@caker>	basically a heartbeat deamon and a floating IP
02:41	<internat>	but how do u get arround a shared storage medium?
02:46	<internat>	im basicly trying to come up with a cheap 2 server medium of doing things.. ie 2 linodes so if one goes down/hacked/i break something the other has a stable image running
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03:14	<erikh>	internat: take a look at tools like 'puppet', 'bcfg2', and 'cfengine'
03:14	<erikh>	I used to hack on puppet, and it's a nice tool, but cfengine is much more mature than the other two.
03:14	<erikh>	(cfengine is a notorious pain in the rear to configure, too)
03:15	<erikh>	I'm not familiar with the linux-ha project, but a combination of puppet/etc and CARP would work.
03:22	<internat>	hmmms
03:22	<internat>	do either of them require kernel modules?
03:22	<erikh>	nope
03:22	<erikh>	wait, CARP probably will.
03:23	<erikh>	however, you /could/ use something like perlbal or another load balancer to balance your servers instead of CARP
03:23	<erikh>	wouldn't be the exact thing you want, but it would be a nice intermediary (and have higher capacity, to boot)
03:24	<erikh>	the big win with cfengine and friends is that you can easily backup your entire system configuration, in the case you need to build it again from scratch
03:24	<erikh>	it marries well with things like kickstart.
03:24	<erikh>	it also enforces configuration, should you have someone inexperienced or too experienced on your server :)
03:25	<erikh>	in fact, I'm kind of surprised I haven't heard anything about these tools from caker & co, I imagine they'd be life savers.
03:26	<erikh>	either that, or they hate them -- and a lot of people have a strong love/hate relationship with cfengine in particular.
03:27	<erikh>	caker: actually, a load balancing solution would make for a great linode feature -- incentive to sell more servers :)
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06:03	<andrew_j_w>	Hi, is anyone else experience dns issues on their linode?
06:03	<andrew_j_w>	I'm getting lots of time outs when resolving
06:05	<guinea-pig>	in what sense? of a hosted domain, or of the internet at large?
06:05	<encode>	andrew_j_w: which dns server are u using?
06:10	<andrew_j_w>	12.96.160.115 64.5.53.6 216.234.234.30
06:11	<andrew_j_w>	it's the internet at large, i.e. when resolving www.google.com
06:13	<guinea-pig>	what nameservers are you using?
06:13	<guinea-pig>	does linode even provide any? I've always had bind installed on mine...
06:13	<andrew_j_w>	I am using the linode provided dns servers
06:15	<encode>	andrew_j_w: the ones listed in the web control panel network information?
06:16	<andrew_j_w>	yes
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06:48	<David_>	HI
06:51	<David_>	hi
06:51	<David_>	anyone awake yet?
07:10	<guinea-pig>	by anyone, whom do you mean?
07:21	<David_>	hi
07:21	<David_>	I wasn't sure anyone was in here
07:21	<David_>	good morning
07:22	<David_>	I had some questions about how long it takes for accounts to get setup
07:46	<brc>	good morning
07:48	<David_>	good morning
07:49	<David_>	I jsut ordered a new linode and was just wondering how long it woudl take to activate
07:51	<brc>	i am not sure. mine was fast
07:54	<David_>	well hopefully it will be quick
07:55	<David_>	I thought I had setup login credentials
07:55	<David_>	but it won't let me login to the site
07:55	<David_>	hopefully everything will be quick
07:55	<heidi>	David_: it will be when someone wakes up to do it
07:55	<David_>	exactly:D
07:55	<David_>	I respect IT folks
07:55	<David_>	I respect their sleep
08:08	<brc>	hehehe.. everyone needs to sleep :)
08:08	<brc>	What time is it there? already 12:08 here
08:11	<David_>	9am
08:11	<David_>	hopefully having a vps will be some fun
08:11	<David_>	kind of tired of having too many machien at home
08:12	<David_>	and I hate tinkering with my fileserver..because whe nit is down everythign is down
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08:23	<David_>	woohoo
08:23	<David_>	I'm up:D
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09:39	<mal0r>	Can anyone let me know if any other mail tools other than sendmail are supplied with a linode VDS please?
09:41	<kvandivo>	the manager lets you install a standard linux distro. what you put on it after that is up to you
09:41	<@tasaro>	mal0r: What are you looking for?
09:42	<mal0r>	Was just going to keep a personal email server and www server
09:42	<mal0r>	and build a few web applications on there
09:42	<@tasaro>	You can basically install whatever you need
09:43	<@tasaro>	sendmail, postfix, apache?
09:47	<mal0r>	ok, thanks. download the bins and install, that's cool. Thanks.
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09:55	<David_>	hi
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10:00	<timber>	mikegrb: ping
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10:09	<David_>	hi
10:09	<kvandivo>	hello, and hello
10:10	<David_>	was wondering if I could get soem linux help
10:11	<David_>	everytime I type sudo I get "sudo: unable to lookup none via gethostbyname()"
10:11	<kvandivo>	you probably need to set your hostname
10:12	<David_>	oh:o
10:12	<David_>	I thought the default install did that:o
10:12	<kvandivo>	how would it possibly know what you want your hostname to be? ;)
10:12	<kvandivo>	http://www.cpqlinux.com/hostname.html
10:13	<David_>	I thought they made it xxx.linode...
10:24	<David_>	got it thanks
10:24	<David_>	:)
10:25	<David_>	umm
10:25	<David_>	perhaps I am not used to using 1Gbps links
10:25	<David_>	should stuff flash on the screen liek that when using apt-get?:P
10:30	<tjfontaine>	no, lay off the drugs
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10:30	<tjfontaine>	irony
10:31	<kvandivo>	it's like meeting the woman of your dreams, and then meeting her wonderful husband
10:32	<tjfontaine>	not that's a little too ironic
10:32	<tjfontaine>	s/not/no/
10:32	<tjfontaine>	and ya, I really do think.
10:32	[~]	tjfontaine jams
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12:13	<WhiteRider>	!latest
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12:14	<WhiteRider>	!search The.Texas.Chainsaw.Massacre.The.Beginning.UNRATED.DVDRip.XviD
12:14	<linbot>	WhiteRider: There were no matching configuration variables.
12:16	<tjfontaine>	WhiteRider: no. no warez ever on this network, you have been warned, do it again and be removed from the network
12:18	<WhiteRider>	I have every right to download films if I own a legitimate copy of the film at home.
12:18	<WhiteRider>	Thanks.
12:19	<WhiteRider>	I meant to put that in another window on another network anyways.
12:20	<tjfontaine>	WhiteRider: what you have the right to do in legal terms doesn't translate to what is acceptable use on this network.
12:21	<WhiteRider>	That's fine.
12:23	<kvandivo>	that particular film isn't even going to be released on dvd for another 11 days
12:23	<kvandivo>	but, i digress
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12:48	<Xel>	tjfontaine, you must be in a good mood today
12:48	<Xel>	You gave a warning before a kline for warez
12:48	<adamg>	he is just drunk
12:54	<WhiteRider>	I didn't even attemt to download warez, so stfu.
12:54	<WhiteRider>	I put something in the wrong window.
12:54	<WhiteRider>	The file name of a movie, now go get a life.
12:54	<WhiteRider>	Honest mistake, assholes.
12:55	<adamg>	not the best attitdue
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13:21	<Battousai>	hah
13:22	<Xel>	WhiteRider , don't ctcp me.
13:22	<Battousai>	tj always drunk
13:22	<tjfontaine>	Battousai: heh
13:23	<Xel>	tjfontaine, do you accept bribes? :P
13:23	<Xel>	I can offer you ASCII pr0n
13:24	<tjfontaine>	is it of your sister? :)
13:25	<Xel>	No, it's of yours :)
13:25	<tjfontaine>	bah, old news ;)
13:25	<Xel>	Hehe
13:25	<Battousai>	mmm...disturbing
13:26	<tjfontaine>	hehe
13:26	<Xel>	Battousai, well she isn't that bad. She does have tjfontaine's face though.
13:26	<Xel>	I better stop before I get killed
13:26	<Xel>	hehe
13:26	<Battousai>	oh... well that's okay then
13:26	<tjfontaine>	I'm hella sexy though
13:27	<Xel>	You know it's amazing how people define software piracy.
13:27	<tjfontaine>	reminds me of black dahlia: "I just wanted to see what it was like to sleep with someone who looked like me"
13:27	<Xel>	tjfontaine, I do that all too often :\ I have learned to hate that fullbody mirror and my right hand.
13:27	<tjfontaine>	hah
13:28	<Xel>	And a silence falls over the crowd
13:29	<tjfontaine>	:)
13:29	<Xel>	oftc is the OS network isn't it?
13:29	<Xel>	Debian's official channel is here, etc.
13:29	[~]	scott looks around
13:29	<tjfontaine>	yes, debian is here, what do you mean by OS? OpenSource?
13:29	<Xel>	Yes
13:29	<Xel>	Should have said OSS
13:30	<tjfontaine>	ya, we're the Open and Free Technology Community
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13:44	<Xel>	Ok now it's ignore time for this moron.
13:44	<WhiteRider>	My eyes have seen the glory of the tramplin' at the zoo. We've washed ourselves in niggers blood and all the mongrels too. We've taken down the ZOG machine Jew by Jew by Jew, the white man marches on!
13:45	<Xel>	What makes you think that it is ok to msg someone that or post it in a public channel?
13:45	<WhiteRider>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJ1kCBkuW0
13:45	<WhiteRider>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJ1kCBkuW0
13:45	<Xel>	So you being an idiot is ok because someone on YouTube posted a clip from American History X?
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13:45	<WhiteRider>	stfu
13:46	<WhiteRider>	fucking nigger face
13:46	<WhiteRider>	fuck u fagot
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13:46	<Xel>	Thanks tasaro :)
13:46	<@caker>	tasaro: beat me to it
13:46	<@tasaro>	oops - I meant to do that in a different window. . .
13:46	<@tasaro>	;)
13:46	<tjfontaine>	he's going to get a kill anyway
13:46	<Xel>	Hehe
13:46	<tjfontaine>	[01-05][01-05] 14:44 <WhiteRider> My eyes have seen the glory of the tramplin' at the zoo. We've washed ourselves in niggers blood and all the mongrels too. We've taken down the ZOG machine Jew by Jew by Jew, the white man marches on!
13:47	<Xel>	tjfontaine, I got that privmsg'd to me
13:47	<Xel>	I added his ass to ignore
13:47	<Xel>	But still, that's pretty messed up
13:47	<Xel>	I always thought that people from Rhode Island were supposed to be docile
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13:54	<Xel>	So soon?
13:54	<tjfontaine>	he's off the network and has an akill for his current ip
13:54	<tjfontaine>	for 30days
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14:17	<Xel>	tjfontaine, you rock :P
14:18	<tjfontaine>	just doing my job, thanks
14:19	<Xel>	Since when is being an ircop considered a job? :P
14:19	<tjfontaine>	heh
14:19	<Xel>	"Get a damned job" "Shutup mom, I have one!"
14:19	<Battousai>	"Mom! The meatloaf!"
14:20	<tjfontaine>	pretty much
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15:43	<timber>	mikegrb: ping
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17:59	<Dave_>	hi
18:01	<Dave_>	anyone home
18:01	<tjfontaine>	what's up
18:01	<Dave_>	I was itnerested in seeing if anyone had experiences with changing their SSH port
18:01	<Dave_>	I get an error sayign that my config is read only
18:02	<Dave_>	and a :wq! in Vi doesn't seem to override it
18:02	<Dave_>	:(
18:02	<Dave_>	or is it even ncessary
18:02	<Dave_>	I jsut got my box running today and jsut realzied I have no firewall
18:02	<Dave_>	and am not sure what linode does to protect the box, so I was takign the initiative
18:03	<tjfontaine>	you need root permissions to edit the file likely, either use sudo or su or log in as root to edit the file
18:03	<@mikegrb>	lolz
18:03	<Dave_>	lol
18:03	<Dave_>	*slaps himself
18:04	<Dave_>	I was reusing some commands and forgot the sudo
18:04	<tjfontaine>	sudo -s will put you into a super user shell
18:04	<Dave_>	I really haven't started from scratch with bedian (ubuntu) before so I am very buys
18:04	<Dave_>	allowing suers to sudo etc
18:04	<Dave_>	thanks a lot:D
18:04	<tjfontaine>	s/bedian/debian/
18:04	<Dave_>	any recommendations for a first time user
18:04	<Dave_>	in terms of inital setup
18:05	<Dave_>	did an apt-get update
18:05	<Dave_>	set my hostname
18:05	<Dave_>	got LAMP
18:05	<Dave_>	working
18:05	<tjfontaine>	for first debian/ubuntu user or linux user?
18:05	<Dave_>	have a page up and everythign already:D
18:05	<Dave_>	first time ubuntu VPS user
18:05	<Dave_>	it looks liek the ubuntu was a very bare install
18:05	<Dave_>	I usually use the server or desktop images
18:06	<Dave_>	and decided that a VPS was much better than hosting it at home
18:06	<tjfontaine>	most of the linode install images are small to keep deployment quick
18:06	<Dave_>	but of course
18:07	<Dave_>	that's fine
18:07	<Dave_>	the only time I've ever setup anythign from such a psarse config has been with gentoo
18:07	<tjfontaine>	for setting up a firewall you need to use iptables or more ideally something that configures iptables easier for you
18:07	<Dave_>	but that was not a 'production' machine
18:07	<Dave_>	always behidn a firewall
18:07	<Dave_>	on a LAN
18:07	<tjfontaine>	I would suggest shorewall
18:07	<Dave_>	I heard there is an anzo scrip[t
18:07	<Dave_>	I will ook for that
18:08	<Dave_>	good call
18:08	<Dave_>	one last question if you don't mind
18:08	<tjfontaine>	shoot
18:08	<Dave_>	I ahve to reboot the server for the ssh port to take affect, right?
18:08	<tjfontaine>	no
18:09	<tjfontaine>	you just need to restart the ssh server
18:09	<tjfontaine>	/etc/init.d/ssh restart
18:09	<Dave_>	okay
18:09	<Dave_>	you'll ahve to excuse me
18:09	<Dave_>	i am new to this vps stuff as I said
18:09	<Dave_>	I am not sure how everythign works yet
18:10	<Dave_>	are the 'reboot' button reboots clean?
18:10	<tjfontaine>	that's the standard way you stop/start/restart a service in a unixy like system
18:10	<tjfontaine>	yes
18:10	<Dave_>	it just feels weird
18:10	<Dave_>	that's all
18:10	<Dave_>	every little thing seems eccentric:D
18:10	<tjfontaine>	if you log into lish you can see the shutdown process after hitting reboot
18:11	<Dave_>	with ssh too
18:11	<tjfontaine>	?
18:11	<Dave_>	or is that what you mean
18:11	<Dave_>	I only use ssh
18:11	<Dave_>	via putty or something
18:11	<Dave_>	or do you mean the online control panel?
18:11	<tjfontaine>	I'm saying ssh'ing into your host to see your console you can see the shutdown process after issuinga reboot from the web panel
18:12	<Dave_>	yes:)
18:12	<Dave_>	jsut foudn that out
18:12	<Dave_>	:o
18:12	<@caker>	Yay - my MacBook lives again
18:12	<Dave_>	running?
18:12	<tjfontaine>	what happened to it?
18:12	<@caker>	The MagSafe power brick fried
18:12	<Dave_>	ouch
18:13	<@tasaro>	(tm)
18:13	<@caker>	along with a nice burned-in impression of the pillow it was laying on
18:13	<tjfontaine>	heh
18:13	<Dave_>	:D
18:13	<Dave_>	©2006 apple
18:13	<Dave_>	:D
18:13	<Dave_>	funny how they made jsut about the most inane thing safer and yet more deadly
18:13	<Dave_>	at the same time
18:14	<Dave_>	nice lappies though
18:14	<Dave_>	would love one
18:14	<Dave_>	no $$$ though
18:14	<Dave_>	as a student right now
18:14	<Dave_>	jsut sticking to a school-loaner
18:14	<Dave_>	p31ghz dell with ubuntu 6.10
18:14	<Dave_>	runs fine
18:14	<Dave_>	only problem is..
18:14	<Dave_>	as always, the wrieless
18:14	<@caker>	This is the best (Apple) laptop I've ever used
18:14	<Dave_>	I bet
18:14	<Dave_>	they are so sexy
18:15	<tjfontaine>	caker: so you're a fan then?
18:15	<@caker>	tjfontaine: I'd recommend one to anyone
18:15	<Dave_>	btw, how vulnerable, caker, are our VPS's right now
18:16	<Dave_>	for example, ubuntu 6.06
18:16	<tjfontaine>	caker: I have been for a couple years now, just not been able to afford one for myself :)
18:16	<Dave_>	not many peopel can:(
18:16	<@caker>	Dave_: as vulnerable as Ubuntu 6.06 is/was when I created the image -- with just sshd runing
18:16	<Dave_>	the ones that really want one
18:17	<Dave_>	I see
18:18	<Dave_>	at least I didn't ahve to worry about apache
18:18	<Dave_>	;)
18:18	<Dave_>	sicne it was open;)
18:18	<Dave_>	sorry to keep hounding you liek this
18:18	<Dave_>	just kind of exited
18:18	<Dave_>	I have about a week and a half before classes start an I wanted to set myself with a CMS or soemthign for my class etc
18:19	<Dave_>	and am just thrilled at home easy it was to fail with centos 3 times, manage disks etc, and have ubuntu runing after that mess in the same day:D
18:19	<Dave_>	you control panel is jsut
18:19	<Dave_>	fantastic
18:21	<@caker>	thanks!
18:21	<Dave_>	so what are you going to do with that macbook?
18:21	<Dave_>	anythign interesting
18:22	<@caker>	I've been using it as my main box since I got it -- then been using Parallels to do distribution generation, which makes life a lot easier
18:22	<@caker>	Virtualization rocks.
18:22	<tjfontaine>	I had to see it to believe it, but that damn parallels is fast
18:22	<Dave_>	nice
18:22	<Dave_>	faster than vmware?
18:23	<tjfontaine>	I didn't run them side by side
18:23	<Dave_>	vmware is really fast
18:23	<tjfontaine>	I'm aware
18:25	<Dave_>	I haven't used parallels
18:25	<Dave_>	ther is one though..that they had on digg
18:25	<Dave_>	appearantly on a intelmac
18:25	<Dave_>	that used kernel based virtualization
18:25	<Dave_>	VERY VERY VERY VERY fast
18:25	<@caker>	KVM, for Linux?
18:25	<Dave_>	even XGL and other functies worked
18:25	<Dave_>	yeah
18:25	<Dave_>	I think that's it
18:25	<@caker>	It's not quite fast yet -- but they're working onit
18:25	<Dave_>	people were complainign about the acronym:P
18:26	<@caker>	and it's Linux only
18:26	<Dave_>	like xen
18:26	<Dave_>	A LOT of potential
18:26	<Dave_>	xen is supposed to rock right now as it is
18:26	<Dave_>	jsut the management is what seems to need to msot work
18:27	<Dave_>	*signed up for xen
18:27	<Dave_>	since it is supposed to have static memory allocation:D
18:28	<Dave_>	so caker, appearantly you are one of the ones who runs this operation
18:28	<Dave_>	I've heard great things
18:28	<@tasaro>	Dave - was that you who applied for the Xen beta this morning?
18:28	<Dave_>	appearantrly you guys are the oldest UML
18:28	<Dave_>	:D
18:28	<Dave_>	that was me:D
18:28	<@tasaro>	Check with caker, but I think it's full
18:29	<Dave_>	oh
18:29	<Dave_>	it's okay
18:29	<Dave_>	not the end of the world
18:30	<@tasaro>	Where have you "heard great things", out of curiousity?
18:30	<Dave_>	heh
18:30	<Dave_>	webhostingtalk
18:30	<Dave_>	friends,forums,googlegroups
18:30	<Dave_>	I swear I put that in the application;)
18:31	<Dave_>	unless you think otherwise about this place;)
18:31	<Dave_>	I found MANY places that had "better deals" offering much more in terms of resoruces, but your reliability and the high marks from people, plus the longetivity...yayayata
18:32	<Dave_>	it was an easy choice to go with you guys]
18:33	<Dave_>	unless they were all lying;)
18:33	<Dave_>	heh
18:33	<@tasaro>	Nope, this is the place ;)
18:34	<Dave_>	:D
18:34	<Dave_>	that's what I liek to hear
18:34	<Dave_>	btw, jsut out of curioscity
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18:35	<Dave_>	if something goes wrong and I have to nuke a server or do general server creation, what is the best time? in terms of not causing slowdowns for everyone?
18:35	<Dave_>	or does it not matter at all?
18:36	<@tasaro>	You mean redeploy? Shouldn't matter
18:36	<Dave_>	cool
18:37	<Dave_>	oh boy
18:38	<Dave_>	changed the ssh port and can't get back in
18:38	<Dave_>	this'll be fun
18:39	<@caker>	Dave_: time for Lish
18:39	<@caker>	!lish
18:39	<linbot>	caker: "lish" could be allows you to perform certain actions without having to log into the LPM. Lish's primary function is to allow you access to your server's console, even if networking is disabled. http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Lish_Documentation
18:40	<Dave_>	cool:D
18:45	<Dave_>	AWESOME
18:45	<Dave_>	damn typos:o
18:45	<Dave_>	back in
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19:00	<jamees>	hey i want to buy a ircd
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19:03	<heidi>	?
19:04	<@mikegrb>	heidi: it's like buying a vowel, only with two consonants thrown in for free
19:04	<@mikegrb>	er, three
19:04	<heidi>	heh
19:11	<Dave_>	so
19:12	<Dave_>	anyone here use a groupware or online collaboration sutie?
19:12	<Dave_>	I really wish Hula was still being developed
19:12	<Dave_>	Will probably go with zimbra
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21:07	<Nigel>	out of interest, does lish count towards bandwidth usage?
21:07	<@caker>	Nigel: not yet :)
21:08	<Nigel>	that makes it sound like that it will be
21:12	<linbot>	New news from forums: Reboot: host47 in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2562>;
21:24	<Nigel>	caker, just thinking, would it be possible to add a string say "[New]" to the start of a topic name, if it's a new topic (instead of just a reply)?
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21:44	<Nigel>	and: is something up w/ Host12, it seems to be a little sluggish
21:59	<taupehat>	snnoogins
22:00	<taupehat>	someone actually taught my daughter to say that (she's 4)
22:00	<taupehat>	I'd have puddle-dunked him, but he just got done serving 4 years in Fallujah with the marine corps
22:00	<taupehat>	so I probably wouldn't have done well with the puddle
22:01	<encode>	l0l
22:02	<taupehat>	r0fL
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22:08	<gpd>	caker: my linode seems to be stuck
22:08	<gpd>	hmm.. on second thoughts it seems to be just booting really slowly
22:08	<taupehat>	heh
22:08	<taupehat>	hehz
22:08	<gpd>	you too?
22:09	<taupehat>	nope
22:09	[~]	taupehat uses his linode in here
22:09	<encode>	im also connected via my linode
22:09	<gpd>	you are both 47 iirc
22:10	<gpd>	mine is coming up -- but taking a while -- oh well
22:10	[~]	taupehat is on 56
22:10	<encode>	i dont think im on 47 anymore
22:10	[~]	encode checks
22:10	<encode>	39 now
22:12	<gpd>	how is Xen on 56 these days?
22:13	<gpd>	are we now excited about KVM? or do the linode servers not have virtualization chips?
22:13	<taupehat>	god, I love how KDE handles audio CDs
22:14	<gpd>	taupehat: any thoughts on the above?
22:15	<taupehat>	gpd: it's been contentedly stable for while now
22:15	<taupehat>	20:15:10 up 34 days, 3:28, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
22:15	<gpd>	but still in beta - and the only linode running xen?
22:16	<gpd>	!rr
22:16	<linbot>	gpd: click
22:16	<taupehat>	gpd: I dunno
22:16	<taupehat>	it works well enough for me
22:18	<Nigel>	hmmm, my node has a load avg of around 2.15, but according to top, i'm just about always 100.0% idle
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22:19	<gpd>	Nigel: is that load avg 15min?
22:19	<Nigel>	gpd, it's hanging around that for all 3 values
22:19	<taupehat>	http://www.taupehat.com/images/misc/kde-owns-audio.gif
22:19	<taupehat>	that's how KDE owns audio
22:19	<taupehat>	man
22:19	<taupehat>	so transparent
22:19	<taupehat>	so easy
22:19	<Nigel>	2.25 2.18 2.21
22:20	<taupehat>	if you go into the FLAC dir, all the files are FLAC, or at least, they will be as soon as you drag them someplace
22:20	<Nigel>	my node also is running a bit slugish (i.e. a ./configure took a little while from pressing enter, and actually doing something)
22:21	<Nigel>	taupehat, KDE is getting better? might have a look sometime
22:22	<taupehat>	Nigel: right now, KDE is so far ahead of anything besides possibly OSX that it's criminal to see distros using anything else
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22:43	<encode>	Nigel: running 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? if 2.6, whats the wa% value in top?
22:51	<Nigel>	encode, 0.0-1.0%
22:51	<Nigel>	loads up to about 2.49 2.31 2.21
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