| --- | Log | opened Sun Apr 02 00:00:51 2006 |
| 00:38 | <tsi> | anyone know anything about solaris spontaneously deciding to populate /dev/rst instead of /dev/rmt when making tape devices? |
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| 01:01 | <encode> | taupehat: i seem to have kinda solved my xdmcp problem |
| 01:01 | <taupehat> | oh? |
| 01:01 | <taupehat> | what was the trick to it? |
| 01:02 | <encode> | the trick was starting up an xdmcp session, logging in, then starting another, logging in again, and the second session would actually work |
| 01:02 | <encode> | so thats why its only kinda solved |
| 01:03 | <taupehat> | strange |
| 01:03 | <encode> | i agree |
| 01:03 | <encode> | but its good enough for me forn ow |
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| 01:10 | <fo0bar> | I just realized I'm not on freenode. kudos to me |
| 01:10 | <taupehat> | haha |
| 01:16 | <encode> | i dont see the correlation |
| 01:18 | <warewolf> | oh god |
| 01:18 | <taupehat> | hehe |
| 01:19 | <warewolf> | lilo *yet again* played an april fools joke on OFTC? |
| 01:19 | <warewolf> | last time he walloped *from* an OFTC address on freenode |
| 01:19 | <taupehat> | heh |
| 01:19 | <warewolf> | god I love abuse of power. |
| 01:19 | <@mikegrb> | he didn't play an joke |
| 01:19 | <@mikegrb> | he ddosed oftc |
| 01:19 | <taupehat> | oh it was funny ha ha |
| 01:19 | <taupehat> | ha |
| 01:19 | <warewolf> | did lilo actually redirect people from freenode to OFTC? |
| 01:19 | <taupehat> | and ha |
| 01:19 | <warewolf> | you're shitting me |
| 01:19 | <taupehat> | warewolf: no, he just told people to claim that |
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| 01:19 | <taupehat> | http://numist.net/blog/2006/04/01/freenode-oops/ |
| 01:20 | <warewolf> | I just read that |
| 01:20 | <@mikegrb> | lilo being the guy that files a police report every time a DOS against freenode happens |
| 01:20 | <warewolf> | so he *convinced* people to tell other people that freenode was kaput? |
| 01:20 | <@mikegrb> | I certainly hope SPI or OFTC files a police report |
| 01:20 | <warewolf> | and that OFTC was the only thing left? |
| 01:20 | <@mikegrb> | even better they should press charges against him |
| 01:20 | <taupehat> | warewolf: he gnoticed the prank |
| 01:21 | <@mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/irc/oftc/2006/2006.04.01/#16:21 |
| 01:21 | <warewolf> | thanks mike |
| 01:22 | <taupehat> | mikegrb: whoah |
| 01:22 | <taupehat> | nah, that's not a ddos |
| 01:24 | <warewolf> | ok |
| 01:24 | <warewolf> | I have one simple question |
| 01:24 | <warewolf> | I used to be on staff here. |
| 01:24 | <warewolf> | mikegrb too. |
| 01:24 | <taupehat> | here? |
| 01:24 | <warewolf> | yes. here. |
| 01:24 | <warewolf> | oftc. |
| 01:24 | <taupehat> | k |
| 01:25 | <warewolf> | why didn't the oftc opers +invite or +moderate #oftc? |
| 01:25 | <@mikegrb> | they did |
| 01:25 | <warewolf> | that would have solved one half of the problem |
| 01:25 | <warewolf> | oh I'm sorry, they did it after the first four minutes I've read? |
| 01:25 | <@mikegrb> | 16:25 |
| 01:26 | <@mikegrb> | you and I were pretty much all that was around for 90% of the day |
| 01:26 | <@mikegrb> | s/was/were/ |
| 01:26 | <fo0bar> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_1,_2006 <-- my prank has been deemed "noteworthy" |
| 01:26 | <@mikegrb> | without us, they're screwed ;) |
| 01:26 | <fo0bar> | IE, it survived the overflow of crap being noted for this year |
| 01:26 | <@mikegrb> | fo0bar: you will always be noteworthy to me, I don't need some silly wikipedia page to tell me this |
| 01:28 | <fo0bar> | awww |
| 01:28 | <taupehat> | heh |
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| 01:30 | <warewolf> | lilo, please go away. You're not welcome here any more. |
| 01:30 | <encode> | fo0bar: which prank was yours? theres so many listed |
| 01:30 | <warewolf> | GO CDLU |
| 01:30 | <warewolf> | awesome. |
| 01:31 | <fo0bar> | encode: search for finnix :) |
| 01:31 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/sub_122.shtml <-- these are awesome |
| 01:31 | <encode> | ahh l ol |
| 01:31 | <encode> | nice work |
| 01:31 | <@mikegrb> | I saw some on recordings but had fast forwarded through them |
| 01:32 | <warewolf> | <cdlu>by the way, lilo's k-line is not an april fools joke. But discussion of this matter is over. |
| 01:32 | <warewolf> | awesome. |
| 01:32 | <warewolf> | finally |
| 01:32 | <fo0bar> | it has been successful though. I've had more downloads of 87.0 in the last 36 hours than I've had in the entire lifespan of any of the 86.X versions |
| 01:33 | <fo0bar> | (average about 2 months between releases) |
| 01:33 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/office_psa_invite.shtml#video |
| 01:34 | <encode> | because of your listing on the wikipedia page? or because of your announcement? |
| 01:34 | <fo0bar> | encode: I'm guessing a little of a lot of press |
| 01:35 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/office_psa_relationship.shtml#video <-- awesome (they are in a relationship together) |
| 01:35 | <fo0bar> | encode: err, I mean a little each of a lot more press mentions than usual |
| 01:35 | <fo0bar> | no slashdot though :) |
| 01:37 | <encode> | "If you manage to get Finnix-iPod installed on a non-iPod, I would love to hear from you" <-- that would be a particularly challenging feat |
| 01:38 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/office_psa_beer.shtml#video <-- the first one is the best |
| 01:39 | <@mikegrb> | thank you fo0bar |
| 01:45 | <warewolf> | I sincerely hope SPI-INC takes legal action against lilo. |
| 01:49 | <encode> | how will that change whats already happened? |
| 01:51 | <taupehat> | it won't |
| 01:51 | <@mikegrb> | it will teach him that you can't break the law and say "lighten up, it's a joke" |
| 01:51 | <taupehat> | but perhaps lilo would then leav |
| 01:51 | <taupehat> | e |
| 01:51 | <@mikegrb> | I mean, he wouldn't be okay if I shot him and said "ha, ha, april fools!" |
| 01:52 | <warewolf> | that was atleast the second year running that I know of that lilo has played an april fools joke on OFTC |
| 01:53 | <taupehat> | and then he goes "why are they fixated on me? |
| 01:53 | <warewolf> | when I was an oper here, we made absolutely positive that we (as the network staff) made no comment one way or the other about lilo. |
| 01:53 | <warewolf> | we were just another network |
| 01:53 | <warewolf> | not trying to compete |
| 01:54 | <warewolf> | trying to simply co-exist without any trouble apparently is too difficult for lilo to handle |
| 01:55 | <warewolf> | he really, really needs to grow up. |
| 01:56 | <encode> | i guess i dont have the same passion as you guys about it because a) i wasnt around when it happened and b) i was never an ircop on oftc |
| 01:56 | <warewolf> | mikegrb and I were previously OFTC staff members |
| 01:56 | <warewolf> | I was an oper for quite some time |
| 01:56 | <taupehat> | I've just dealt with more than enough lilo stupidity over the years |
| 01:57 | <taupehat> | starting of course with the eternal "hey brotha can u spare a dime?" |
| 01:57 | <Redgore> | I just stay out of IRC politics |
| 01:57 | <warewolf> | Redgore: last I was staff, we tried too. |
| 01:58 | <@mikegrb> | huh |
| 01:58 | <@mikegrb> | seti's idea of mulithreaded is launching one copy of itself per cpu |
| 01:58 | <taupehat> | hehe |
| 01:58 | <taupehat> | nice |
| 01:58 | <Redgore> | ive been involved in small time IRC politics between my network and another which branched out from the same IRC closing down |
| 01:58 | <Redgore> | thats bad enough |
| 01:59 | <@mikegrb> | internet relay chat closed down? I wasn't aware |
| 01:59 | <encode> | whats /.'s obsession with ponies? |
| 01:59 | <@mikegrb> | perhaps that's where lilo got the idea that no IRC protocol exists |
| 03:00 | <warewolf> | encode: their new color scheme is forcing me away from the website |
| 03:00 | <Redgore> | mikegrb: I forgot the word network after the IRC bit |
| 03:00 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 03:00 | <encode> | warewolf: its back to normal now |
| 03:00 | <Redgore> | although it was more, a IRC server back then. The IRC server of antionline.com to be exact |
| 03:06 | <warewolf> | I have some really, really stupid coworkers. |
| 03:06 | <warewolf> | "rm -i is for deleting inodes!" |
| 03:06 | <warewolf> | "wait, what? please tell me you're not fucking with inodes." |
| 03:07 | <warewolf> | "Yeah, I have a file I can't delete. It's on $SERVER in $DIRECTORY." |
| 03:07 | <warewolf> | *logs in, and looks* "Here's how you do it. 'rm -- <tab completes nasty filename>' The double dash instructs the rm command to stop command-line switch processing." |
| 03:08 | <encode> | hahaha |
| 03:08 | <warewolf> | "Oh. I've used -i to delete files by inode before. It's late, and I understand that we're both tired." |
| 03:08 | <encode> | fortunately my coworkers only know windows |
| 03:08 | <warewolf> | "The only way you can fuck with inodes is with debugfs. I'm going to ask you politely not to ever fuck with inodes." |
| 03:08 | <warewolf> | "I'm sure I've deleted files by inode before. I'll go look it up." |
| 03:09 | <taupehat> | http://www.compfused.com/directlink/252/ |
| 03:09 | <warewolf> | then he sends me an email pointing to this url: http://blog.subverted.net?p=426 |
| 03:09 | [~] | encode is scared for warewolf's employer's data |
| 03:09 | <warewolf> | and again, I have to explain to him that -i is for interactive mode in RM. |
| 03:10 | <warewolf> | encode: I'm tempted to take away this guy's root. |
| 03:11 | <fo0bar> | warewolf: still, that's an interesting way of deleting a pesky file |
| 03:11 | <fo0bar> | (that blog entry that is) |
| 03:11 | <warewolf> | it's a stuipid way. |
| 03:11 | <warewolf> | I'll admit that it's interesting, but stupid. |
| 03:12 | <warewolf> | and I'm not sure it'll work all the time either |
| 03:12 | <encode> | i'd call it dangerous rather than stupid |
| 03:12 | <encode> | but thats just me |
| 03:12 | <warewolf> | umm |
| 03:12 | <warewolf> | er hmm |
| 03:12 | <warewolf> | how about awkward? |
| 03:12 | <warewolf> | ass backward? |
| 03:15 | <encode> | that too |
| 03:17 | <warewolf> | know how I *used* to delete files with f*d up filenames before I learned about rm -- ? |
| 03:17 | <warewolf> | perl. |
| 03:17 | <warewolf> | unlink() is your friend :) |
| 03:18 | <encode> | yeah |
| 03:18 | <encode> | gg perl ;) |
| 03:18 | <Redgore> | using decent filenames is your friend :P |
| 03:18 | <warewolf> | Redgore: sometimes it can't be helped |
| 03:18 | <warewolf> | Redgore: some applications do dumb things at times |
| 03:18 | <warewolf> | lemme check for something real quick |
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| 03:19 | <scott> | Someone referred me to an offsite backup company that was pretty cheap here but I forgot what it is, any suggestions? |
| 03:19 | <scott> | My repository for some reason got eaten |
| 03:20 | <warewolf> | hmm. can't find the one example I know of |
| 03:20 | <scott> | I just need a place to dump incremental backups of my repository |
| 03:20 | <scott> | which really sucks |
| 03:20 | <scott> | but to avoid that happening again... |
| 03:20 | <scott> | or to avoid it from causing data loss |
| 03:21 | <scott> | I'd like to create incremental backups this time...luckily I have up to date working copies of most of my projects, but still, lost alot of data there :-( |
| 03:21 | <warewolf> | Redgore: there's something that some people do in rpm spec files that causes the shell to create a file named 'tar: *.something: no such file or directory' in /usr/src/redhat somewhere. |
| 03:21 | <warewolf> | Redgore: I never did quite figure out what causes that (nor did it really matter any of the times it occured) |
| 03:22 | <Redgore> | any decent packager would test their package, find it makes that file and try fixing |
| 03:23 | <warewolf> | my packages don't do that 8-) |
| 03:23 | <encode> | scott: i use bqinternet, they're pretty cheap |
| 03:24 | <encode> | 5 USD / month for 10GB |
| 03:24 | <encode> | paypal |
| 03:24 | <@mikegrb> | ha! |
| 03:24 | <encode> | only had one minor problem with them over the past year, and they quickly fixed it plus refunded my money for that month |
| 03:24 | <@mikegrb> | was just going to say encode |
| 03:24 | <@mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/irc/index.php?words=backup+service&channel=linode |
| 03:24 | <scott> | encode: perfect, except I don't care about paypal |
| 03:25 | <encode> | scott: it seems to be their only payment method |
| 03:25 | <scott> | oh |
| 03:25 | <scott> | now that sucks |
| 03:26 | <encode> | well, if thats no good for you |
| 03:26 | <@mikegrb> | scott: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/AutomatedRdiffBackup ? |
| 03:26 | <encode> | i suggest you take a look around http://www.webhostingtalk.com/ |
| 03:26 | <encode> | and see if you can find something more to your liking |
| 03:27 | <scott> | mikegrb: ok, some instructions for how to set up automated backups...I didn't really need instructions, but thank you anyway. |
| 03:27 | [~] | scott 's backups are a little more complex than this anyway |
| 03:28 | <@mikegrb> | well, rdiff-backup is the main gist of it |
| 03:28 | <@mikegrb> | handles doing incremental stuffs |
| 03:29 | <scott> | mikegrb: well, what I want to back up is a subversion repository, which outputs incremental rdiffs though another means |
| 03:29 | <@mikegrb> | ahh |
| 03:29 | <@mikegrb> | so you just rsync the directory containing those then ;) |
| 03:30 | <scott> | right |
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| 03:36 | [~] | scott considers gmailfs |
| 03:36 | <scott> | heh |
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| 03:52 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Host 9 down or inaccessible? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2080>; |
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| 05:36 | <encode> | http://digg.com/technology/Slashdot_gets_retaliation_from_Cute_Overload. haha so funny |
| 05:46 | <andrewtaylor> | hi, i'm having some problems with firehol - i can see messages in dmesg but i can't find them in any log files /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log /var/log/messsages any other suggestions? |
| 05:50 | <encode> | dont use firehol? |
| 05:51 | <andrewtaylor> | what would you suggest, build ip tables by hand |
| 05:52 | <encode> | i would suggest seeing what firehol's documentation says about its logging configuration |
| 05:52 | <andrewtaylor> | yeah, i've done that, thanks for your help |
| 05:52 | <encode> | maybe check /etc/syslog.conf |
| 05:53 | <encode> | and see if theres anything in there for firehol |
| 05:53 | <andrewtaylor> | there's not, but i have kern.* goingn to kern.log |
| 05:53 | <andrewtaylor> | and it's empoty |
| 05:53 | <encode> | i dont really know much about firehol, maybe someone else does? |
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| 14:02 | <gpd> | http://shots.osdir.com/index_thumbs.php <-- Finnix |
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| 15:49 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Kernel: 2.6.16.1-linode18 with NPTL/TLS support in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2193>; |
| 15:51 | <iggy> | caker: does the nptl stuff actually perform better or is it just for compatibility? |
| 15:54 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Announcement: Xen Public Beta in Xen Public Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2179>; |
| 16:02 | <lucca> | nptl is working good for me (Well, futexes anyway) |
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| 17:55 | <taupehat> | http://www.taupehat.com/misc/liloisamoron.txt |
| 17:55 | <taupehat> | heh |
| 17:57 | [~] | efudd blinks |
| 17:57 | <efudd> | doubletalk |
| 17:58 | <taupehat> | indeed |
| 17:58 | <taupehat> | that's like rick james saying "What, you think I'm gonna go grinding my muddy boots into somebody's suede couch? Yeah, I ground my boots into Eddie's couch." |
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| 18:07 | <efudd> | http://www.mafiaa.org/ |
| 18:07 | <efudd> | ok. that's good. |
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| 18:07 | <taupehat> | =] |
| 18:08 | <taupehat> | efudd: heh, nice one |
| 18:09 | <efudd> | http://jajah.com/ <- too much fun |
| 18:10 | <encode> | http://www.taupehat.com/misc/liloisamoron.txt |
| 18:10 | <encode> | damn right mouse click |
| 18:10 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 18:10 | <taupehat> | lol |
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| 18:24 | <efudd> | http://forever.broked.net/~jason/images/wtfcar1.jpg |
| 18:24 | <efudd> | http://forever.broked.net/~jason/images/wtfcar2.jpg |
| 18:24 | <efudd> | http://forever.broked.net/~jason/images/wtfcar3.jpg |
| 18:24 | <Eman> | those are the kinda cars you hit with a ford aerostar |
| 18:25 | <Spads> | oh yes |
| 18:25 | <Spads> | you are so manly |
| 18:25 | <taupehat> | haha |
| 18:25 | <Spads> | the brand of motorcar you prefer is definitely more manly than the novelty hobby cars in those images |
| 18:25 | <taupehat> | I like the third one |
| 18:25 | <Spads> | it proves that your virility is stronger than theirs |
| 18:26 | <Spads> | your consumer preferences will make you king! |
| 18:26 | <taupehat> | actually, those photos were all taken outside a gentoo lug |
| 18:26 | <efudd> | that's wrong. |
| 18:26 | <efudd> | :? |
| 18:26 | <efudd> | :/ |
| 18:27 | <taupehat> | hehe |
| 18:27 | <taupehat> | eh |
| 18:27 | <taupehat> | funroll-loops.org is right, you know |
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| 19:06 | <taupehat> | http://forever.broked.net/~jason/images/whats.wrong.with.this.picture.jpg |
| 19:06 | <taupehat> | oh my |
| 19:10 | <snorp> | hahaha |
| 19:14 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Scheduled Maintenance: host27 - April 2nd, 7:00 PM Eastern in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2196>; |
| 19:18 | <encode> | please tell me those car pictures are just photoshopped rather than actual cars |
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| 19:32 | <taupehat> | encode: I believe they're real. Certainly gentoo users. |
| 19:33 | <efudd> | damnit. |
| 19:33 | <efudd> | Stop abusing gentoo. :) |
| 19:33 | <efudd> | (users) |
| 19:33 | <efudd> | or at least exclude me from that list by name! |
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| 19:55 | <encode> | hehe |
| 20:56 | <efudd> | um |
| 20:56 | <efudd> | host53.lindoe.com A 209.200.153.152 |
| 20:56 | <efudd> | that's disconcerting. |
| 20:56 | [~] | taupehat wonders off to omg-optimize his dinner |
| 20:57 | <encode> | whats disconcerting? |
| 20:57 | <efudd> | look closer. |
| 20:57 | <encode> | lindoe? |
| 20:57 | <efudd> | e.com |
| 20:57 | <efudd> | yes. |
| 20:57 | <taupehat> | ok, this is extremely weird |
| 20:57 | <efudd> | the fact that *.linode.com resolves at lindoe.com |
| 20:57 | <efudd> | he's using it to phish |
| 20:57 | <taupehat> | for some reason, www.dhs.gov is resolving for me to the bbc |
| 20:58 | [~] | taupehat suspects there's some dns poisioning afoot |
| 20:58 | <efudd> | I'd surmise that lindoe.com is trying to hax0r linode.com accounts. |
| 20:58 | <taupehat> | no really |
| 20:58 | <taupehat> | I'm getting weird dns results from home here |
| 20:58 | [~] | efudd shrugs |
| 20:59 | <efudd> | what i want is papajohns to deliver my damned pizza |
| 21:00 | <encode> | # ping www.dhs.gov |
| 21:00 | <encode> | PING a830.g.akamai.net (64.132.34.78) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 21:00 | <encode> | 64 bytes from 64-132-34-78.gen.twtelecom.net (64.132.34.78): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=1.40 ms |
| 21:00 | <encode> | how can you tell that its resolving to the bbc? |
| 21:00 | <taupehat> | try browsing to it with firefox or something |
| 21:00 | <taupehat> | ping www.dhs.gov |
| 21:00 | <taupehat> | PING a830.g.akamai.net (204.2.128.169) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 21:00 | <taupehat> | 64 bytes from a204-2-128-169.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com (204.2.128.169): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=69.4 ms |
| 21:01 | <encode> | i get a homeland security page |
| 21:01 | <encode> | doesnt look like bbc to me |
| 21:01 | <taupehat> | so we're getting vastly different results |
| 21:01 | <encode> | and also using different dns servers |
| 21:01 | <taupehat> | yep |
| 21:01 | <efudd> | "Yeah, our delivery time isn't 35 minutes. It's 45 minutes to an hour... to an hour and 15 minutes." |
| 21:01 | <efudd> | cocksuckers |
| 21:01 | <encode> | acutally "servers" is redundant in that satement |
| 21:01 | <encode> | statement* |
| 21:01 | <encode> | like lcd displays |
| 21:02 | <taupehat> | dns addresses? |
| 21:02 | <efudd> | taupehat, if anythink, akamai is fuckedu p vs. "DNS poisoning" |
| 21:02 | <taupehat> | anyhow, it's extremely weird |
| 21:02 | <taupehat> | I suspect you're right about the akamai thing |
| 21:02 | <taupehat> | also, qwest's dns sucks |
| 21:02 | <taupehat> | it's dog slow |
| 21:04 | <encode> | i suspect i've seen slower dns' |
| 21:04 | <encode> | used to use bigpond at home, they have severely overloaded dns, up to several seconds response per request |
| 21:06 | <taupehat> | that's about what I see |
| 21:06 | <taupehat> | I'd call and complain, but it's easier to just point settings at servers that I know and operate =] |
| 21:07 | <taupehat> | ahh, there's that Dark Evil Empire homepage, rather than those liberal hippie truth-tellers at BBC |
| 21:08 | <taupehat> | I was wondering why my FF extension wasn't showing the idiocy level, so I clicked it and got the beeb |
| 21:08 | <taupehat> | which led to all this' |
| 21:45 | <Spads> | http://www.finnix.org/Image:Finnix.jpg <-- emad. No really, Emad El-Haraty |
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| 22:06 | <@mikegrb> | Spads: my gps uses ogg for sounds clips |
| 22:06 | <@mikegrb> | ./Licences/ogg-vorbis_(tremor-variable)_license.txt |
| 22:07 | <@mikegrb> | on it's harddrive |
| 22:07 | <@mikegrb> | ./Licences/GNU General Public License.txt |
| 22:07 | <@mikegrb> | as well, since it's linux based |
| 22:11 | <fo0bar> | Spads: when I first joined tron, emad was on sabatical or something. Whenever I saw "http://foo <-- emad", I thought "emad" was this metaphorical character that people attributed humor/weirdness to |
| 22:12 | |-| | Netsplit jupiter.oftc.net <-> quasar.oftc.net quits: adamg |
| 22:14 | <fo0bar> | efudd: yeah, after the dominos lawsuits, all pizza delivery companies were instantly given the opportunity to relax their commitments to cellphone-company standards |
| 22:15 | <Spads> | mikegrb: :D |
| 22:15 | <Spads> | fo0bar: I know. |
| 22:15 | [~] | efudd nods |
| 22:17 | <fo0bar> | these days, if I feel the urge to get fast food pizza, I just phone in the order for pickup, and it's usually available in about 15 minutes |
| 22:17 | <@mikegrb> | Spads: they not only provide their source and kernel, they provide a tar.gz you can download, extract, and run a shell script and it will build a patched linux kernel and hello world application |
| 22:17 | <Spads> | mikegrb: !!!! |
| 22:17 | <Spads> | mikegrb: who makes this? |
| 22:17 | <efudd> | i was lazy. went and got food lastnight. wanted delivery today. |
| 22:17 | <@mikegrb> | tomtom |
| 22:17 | <efudd> | in the future, i'll order pizza a week in advance. |
| 22:17 | <Spads> | zomfg |
| 22:18 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.tomtom.com/page.php?Page=gpl |
| 22:18 | <Spads> | efudd: ha ha, I live across the street from a fantastic pizzeria. |
| 22:18 | <fo0bar> | mikegrb: sounds like linksys (well, after they eventually opened their source). The WRT54G tarball requires about 4 lines of typing to rebuild the firmware |
| 22:18 | <@mikegrb> | efudd: last time we got papa johns it was nearly four hours until we had our pizza (well three but one of the pizzas was wrong so it took another hour to fix that) |
| 22:18 | <efudd> | damnit. i can't seem to determine what is causing ~100 ios/second ever ~15-20 minutes |
| 22:18 | <@mikegrb> | and then I ended up in the hospital with food poisoning |
| 22:18 | <efudd> | gues si'll look closer. |
| 22:19 | <@mikegrb> | and a 5k hospital bill |
| 22:19 | <efudd> | mike, erg. Wtf? :) |
| 22:19 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 22:19 | <efudd> | how muchd id you make on the lawsuit? |
| 22:19 | <@mikegrb> | none :< |
| 22:19 | <@mikegrb> | silly heidi threw out the pizza |
| 22:19 | <@mikegrb> | I left it in the fridge for a reason! I tell her |
| 22:19 | <@mikegrb> | alas, it was too late |
| 22:19 | <JasonF> | nooo |
| 22:19 | <JasonF> | throwing out pizza is terrible |
| 22:19 | <fo0bar> | mikegrb: I feel for you, but I still consider papa john's on the upper-end of the "pizza that's crap" category |
| 22:20 | <JasonF> | crime against huMANity |
| 22:20 | <efudd> | yes. agree. |
| 22:20 | <Spads> | wow their diff too! |
| 22:20 | <Eman> | little caesars is aweful |
| 22:20 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 22:20 | <fo0bar> | little caesars was great back in the 80s |
| 22:20 | <fo0bar> | but not now |
| 22:20 | <@mikegrb> | Spads: I'm about to update the firmware so it's the first time I've had a look at the filesystem as I tar it up |
| 22:21 | <Eman> | $5 pizza that sits around under the heatlamp all day |
| 22:21 | <fo0bar> | godfather's pizza is probably the best "chain" pizza joint, but it's not nationwide |
| 22:22 | <Spads> | "aweful" is like a cross between "awful" and "awesome" |
| 22:23 | <Eman> | theres an excellent place about 3 blocks away from here, amazing pizza, building looks like hell |
| 22:23 | <efudd> | damn i mixed those lines up |
| 22:23 | <@mikegrb> | However, please note that building such a toolchain targeting ARM Linux, hosted on x86 Linux or another platform, with these separate components from scratch is NOT trivial, and can therefore not be supported by TomTom. However, we provide some precompiled, binary versions for your convenience. |
| 22:23 | <efudd> | I read: <fo0bar> gadawful's pizza is probably.... |
| 22:23 | <efudd> | s/gad/god/ |
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| 22:42 | <@mikegrb> | fo0bar: around? |
| 22:46 | <fo0bar> | mikegrb: yeah |
| 22:46 | <@mikegrb> | so seperate finnix versions for ppc and intel |
| 22:46 | <@mikegrb> | is it not possible to put both kernels on one cd? guess it would make it bigger since the kernels aren't very small |
| 22:47 | <fo0bar> | remember, the userland binaries are all different too, so one cd to do both would be double the size |
| 22:47 | <@mikegrb> | yeah |
| 22:48 | <fo0bar> | and I'm not sure if you can have both arches be bootable at the same time |
| 22:48 | <@mikegrb> | downloading 87 |
| 22:48 | <@mikegrb> | going to try it on my dual g5 goodnesses |
| 22:48 | <fo0bar> | excellent |
| 22:48 | <fo0bar> | I've only had one other person try it on a g5 |
| 22:48 | <@mikegrb> | ack |
| 22:49 | <fo0bar> | they said it worked, but the fan control didn't work so the fans were on at full speed |
| 22:49 | <@mikegrb> | thought this spindle was cdrs |
| 22:49 | <@mikegrb> | it's dvdrs :< |
| 22:49 | <fo0bar> | so burn it to dvdr, it should work :) |
| 22:49 | <fo0bar> | 100MB on a 4GB disc |
| 22:50 | <@mikegrb> | heh indeed |
| 22:50 | <@mikegrb> | at least it isn't dual layer |
| 22:50 | <@mikegrb> | found a cdr spindle |
| 22:50 | <fo0bar> | anyways, be sure to type "finnix64" at the boot prompt, because the G5 kernel is separate from the G4/G3 |
| 22:50 | <@mikegrb> | only two or three left |
| 22:51 | <fo0bar> | if it works, type "finnix-hwsubmit" at the bash prompt and submit info about the system please |
| 22:51 | <@mikegrb> | yes ma'am |
| 22:52 | <fo0bar> | http://www.finnix.org/blog/2006/04/02/finnix-on-the-forefront-of-ancient-hardware-technology/ <-- also, if you have a 486 lying around |
| 22:52 | <@mikegrb> | unfortunately, I don't think I do |
| 22:52 | <@mikegrb> | not here anyway |
| 22:52 | <fo0bar> | http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20bootable%20cd%20x86%20powerpc <-- it's sad, I typing in my seatch term, and my own site comes up as result #2 |
| 22:54 | <@mikegrb> | jeebus |
| 22:54 | <@mikegrb> | 24x writing for the win |
| 22:54 | <fo0bar> | well, at least it's not big |
| 22:54 | <@mikegrb> | yeah that too |
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| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | I think I have a software update available that requires a reboot |
| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | should check that |
| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | good time to get it out of the way |
| 22:56 | <@mikegrb> | yeah, 10.4.4 -> 10.4.5 |
| 22:57 | <fo0bar> | http://www.google.com/search?q=isolinux+yaboot+mkisofs&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&safe=off <-- god damnit I'm too popular |
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| 23:12 | <finnix-monster> | <3 |
| 23:13 | <Spads> | http://www.finnix.org/Image:Finnix.jpg <-- finnix-monster |
| 23:14 | <fo0bar> | 21:13 [oftc] CTCP VERSION reply from finnix-monster: irssi v0.8.10 - running on Linux ppc64 |
| 23:14 | <fo0bar> | it's ALIVE |
| 23:14 | <fo0bar> | appearantly |
| 23:14 | <Spads> | apparently |
| 23:15 | <fo0bar> | I like my spelling better |
| 23:15 | <finnix-monster> | 2root@tty2:/# uname -a |
| 23:15 | <finnix-monster> | Linux finnix 2.6.16-1-ppc64-finnix #1 SMP Sun Mar 26 21:38:36 PST 2006 ppc64 GNU/Linux |
| 23:15 | <fo0bar> | finnix-monster: so the fans kicked on full speed? hmm |
| 23:16 | <fo0bar> | mind staying around for a few minutes? |
| 23:16 | <finnix-monster> | eah |
| 23:16 | <finnix-monster> | k |
| 23:16 | <fo0bar> | also: HOW DID YOU PASTE WITH ONLY ONE BUTTON?!? :) |
| 23:16 | <Spads> | Linux finnix 2.6.16-3-iPod-finnix #1 Sat Apr 1 12:42:36 PDT 2006 iPod GNU/Linux |
| 23:16 | <fo0bar> | finnix-monster: try modprobe therm_pm72 |
| 23:17 | <finnix-monster> | fo0bar: I have 4 buttons silly |
| 23:17 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty2:/proc# modprobe therm_pm72 |
| 23:17 | <finnix-monster> | FATAL: Error inserting therm_pm72 (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc64-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh/therm_pm72.ko): No such device |
| 23:17 | <fo0bar> | suckage |
| 23:18 | <finnix-monster> | linux does sata drives like scsi, right? ie sda, sdb? |
| 23:18 | <fo0bar> | windfarm_pm91? windfarm_pm81? |
| 23:18 | <finnix-monster> | windfarm, ha |
| 23:18 | <fo0bar> | there's a lot of crap in /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc64-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh |
| 23:19 | <fo0bar> | finnix-monster: we have a couple G4s in the office whose apple generation name is called "windtunnel" |
| 23:20 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty2:/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh# ls |
| 23:20 | <finnix-monster> | ans-lcd.ko apm_emu.ko therm_adt746x.ko therm_windtunnel.ko windfarm_core.ko |
| 23:20 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty2:/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh# modprobe windfarm_core |
| 23:20 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty2:/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh# |
| 23:20 | <fo0bar> | as for sata: yeah, once you modprobe the right module. unfortunately, finnix doesn't have many pci mappings for sata controllers yet |
| 23:20 | <fo0bar> | finnix-monster: no, ppp64, not ppc |
| 23:20 | <finnix-monster> | silly me |
| 23:21 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty2:/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc64-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh# modprobe windfarm_smu_sensors |
| 23:22 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty2:/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-ppc64-finnix/kernel/drivers/macintosh# |
| 23:22 | <finnix-monster> | and the fans fell silent |
| 23:22 | <fo0bar> | woo |
| 23:22 | <fo0bar> | as for sata, try sata_svw, then examine dmesg to see if it found anything |
| 23:22 | <fo0bar> | although there's a possibility sata_svw was already loaded |
| 23:22 | <finnix-monster> | ught oh |
| 23:22 | <fo0bar> | nope, it wasn't according to your repot |
| 23:23 | <finnix-monster> | they are going back up to full speed |
| 23:23 | <finnix-monster> | well, hard to tell it might not be full speed this time |
| 23:24 | [~] | fo0bar curses apple for making chipsets that rely on drivers to keep fans at a sensible level |
| 23:24 | <encode> | at least they cant overheat if the driver dies |
| 23:24 | <finnix-monster> | yeah |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | sata_svw found my dive |
| 23:25 | <fo0bar> | encode: true, but it would be better for the bios/firmware to manage the monitoring, and just let the driver make hints |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | Device 'windfarm.0' does not have a release() function, it is broken and must be fixed. |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | Badness in device_release at drivers/base/core.c:83 |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | Call Trace: |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | [C0000001191AB570][C0000001191AB570] [C00000000000E630] .show_stack+0x6c/0x1a0 (unreliable) |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | [C0000001191AB610][C0000001191AB610] [C0000000000202E0] .program_check_exception+0x164/0x524 |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | [C0000001191AB6B0][C0000001191AB6B0] [C000000000004348] program_check_common+0xc8/0x100 |
| 23:25 | <finnix-monster> | this most likely from my modprobe -r |
| 23:26 | <finnix-monster> | so I'll reboot again in a moment and load the ppc64 version rather then the wrong one first |
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| 23:29 | <finnix-monster> | <3 |
| 23:29 | <finnix-monster> | [*][*] Finnix CD found at hda |
| 23:29 | <finnix-monster> | Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. |
| 23:29 | <finnix-monster> | Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method. |
| 23:29 | <finnix-monster> | [*][*] Running Linux kernel 2.6.16-1-ppc64-finnix on ppc64 |
| 23:30 | <finnix-monster> | ^ that's that error I mentioned |
| 23:30 | <finnix-monster> | you should also mkdir /var/run/ircd and chown it to the irc user |
| 23:30 | <finnix-monster> | so I don't have to do it every time I want to su to irc and run irssi ;) |
| 23:30 | <finnix-monster> | though I guess running irssi as root from a live cd isn't as bad as doing it on a real system |
| 23:31 | <fo0bar> | finnix-monster: there's a general-purpose non-superuser named "finnix" |
| 23:31 | <finnix-monster> | oh |
| 23:31 | <finnix-monster> | well I guess I could just use that ;) |
| 23:31 | <finnix-monster> | I cat'ed /etc/passwd saw irc user and went with that |
| 23:32 | <finnix-monster> | ok, modprobed and fans off |
| 23:32 | <finnix-monster> | nothing in dmesg though |
| 23:33 | <finnix-monster> | back up again :< |
| 23:34 | <fo0bar> | suckage |
| 23:34 | <fo0bar> | maybe there's a /sys control or something |
| 23:34 | <finnix-monster> | yeah |
| 23:34 | <finnix-monster> | looking there |
| 23:34 | <finnix-monster> | nothing so far |
| 23:34 | <finnix-monster> | some smu stuff |
| 23:34 | <finnix-monster> | but mainly power |
| 23:36 | <fo0bar> | ask linus, he has a G5 or something :) |
| 23:37 | <finnix-monster> | heh |
| 23:37 | <finnix-monster> | there is a windfarm_smu_controls |
| 23:37 | <finnix-monster> | looked prommising but it didn't add anything to /sys |
| 23:38 | <finnix-monster> | ! |
| 23:38 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty3:/proc/device-tree/smu@0,0/fans@4a00# ls |
| 23:38 | <finnix-monster> | #address-cells built-in device_type fan@1 fan@3 fan@5 hwsensor-params-version name zone |
| 23:38 | <finnix-monster> | #size-cells compatible fan@0 fan@2 fan@4 fan@8 linux,phandle reg |
| 23:39 | <fo0bar> | http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2006/01/msg00603.html <-- hmm |
| 23:39 | <fo0bar> | what's a "G5 Quad"? |
| 23:39 | <fo0bar> | detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5 Dual Core) |
| 23:39 | <fo0bar> | I'm guessing that's you |
| 23:39 | <fo0bar> | > is fan management supposed to work on the G5 Quad (PowerMac11,2) with |
| 23:39 | <fo0bar> | > 2.6.16-rc1? |
| 23:40 | <fo0bar> | It will be there soon ! |
| 23:40 | <fo0bar> | ^^^ finnix-monster |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | nothing writable |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | yeah |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | root@tty3:/proc/device-tree/smu@0,0/fans@4a00/fan@0# ls |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | built-in control-id init-value location min-value name safe-value version |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | compatible device_type linux,phandle max-value motor-type reg unmanage-value zone |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | init-value = "L" which is probably low |
| 23:40 | <finnix-monster> | unmanaged value is a high ascii character |
| 23:41 | <finnix-monster> | probably 127/128 or some such |
| 23:41 | <finnix-monster> | and max-value is the same character |
| 23:41 | [~] | finnix-monster reboots |
| 23:41 | <finnix-monster> | G5 quad == two dual core G5 processors |
| 23:42 | <finnix-monster> | was going to get it but got the single dual core G5 and the tomtom gps instead |
| 23:42 | |-| | finnix-monster [~irc@ip70-187-59-190.pn.at.cox.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] |
| 23:42 | <fo0bar> | ahh |
| 23:42 | <fo0bar> | I was wondering why only 2 procs showed up in cpuinfo |
| 23:43 | <encode> | ah ha! now i know who finnix-monster is |
| 23:44 | <fo0bar> | encode: jesus? |
| 23:44 | <encode> | its mikegrb |
| 23:44 | <encode> | unless theres 2 people in here that bought a tomtom gps and dual core g5 instead of just a quad core g5 |
| 23:45 | <fo0bar> | that, and he was talking about downloading and booting finnix on the G5 :) |
| 23:46 | <encode> | i think i missed that bit |
| 23:52 | <@mikegrb> | you miss everything! |
| 23:52 | [~] | mikegrb runs |
| 23:56 | <encode> | i might not miss everything, but i'm sure theres a lot i do miss |
| 23:56 | <@mikegrb> | yeah, like that lotto ticket you threw away last week |
| 23:57 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 23:57 | <encode> | lol |
| 23:57 | <@mikegrb> | you missed the fact that their was a redraw and you won |
| 23:57 | [~] | mikegrb pats his pile of fresh green bills from said ticket |
| 23:57 | <@mikegrb> | booting this box is unread |
| 23:57 | <@mikegrb> | 27 seconds to login prompt |
| 23:57 | <@mikegrb> | 3 seconds from hitting enter after typing password until fully logged in |
| --- | Log | closed Mon Apr 03 00:00:38 2006 |
