| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 31 00:00:48 2006 |
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| 00:24 | <gpd> | caker: nice work on the kernel... anybody tested it yet? |
| 00:24 | <@caker> | gpd: not that I know of |
| 00:24 | <gpd> | ok - i'll have a shewanga at it |
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| 00:25 | <geepeedee> | here goes... |
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| 00:27 | <geepeedee> | up she comes |
| 00:27 | <@caker> | move /lib/tls back into place? |
| 00:29 | <geepeedee> | seemingly it is there without me doing anything? |
| 00:29 | <@caker> | ? |
| 00:30 | <geepeedee> | i think libc6 was updated in ubuntu recently |
| 00:30 | <geepeedee> | but my linode didn't have any ill effects ??? |
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| 00:33 | <gpd> | gpd@www:~$ uname -a |
| 00:33 | <gpd> | Linux www.grahamdavies.net 2.6.16.1-linode18-bb1 #1 Thu Mar 30 23:52:33 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linu |
| 00:34 | <gpd> | what programs require TLS? |
| 00:36 | <@caker> | ldd for one |
| 00:37 | <gpd> | gpd@www:/lib$ ls -dl tls |
| 00:37 | <gpd> | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Mar 25 09:14 tls |
| 00:38 | <gpd> | gpd@www:/lib$ ldd /usr/bin/mysql linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libreadline.so.4 => /lib/libreadline.so.4 (0x4001e000) |
| 00:38 | <gpd> | etc |
| 00:38 | <@caker> | my sshd (on debian-unstable) uses /lib/tls stuff |
| 00:39 | <@caker> | so does top, it looks like |
| 00:39 | <gpd> | seems to work then - nicely done - although why the dir was there before and I had no problems is anyone's guess |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | on a 2.6-um kernel? |
| 00:40 | <gpd> | yeah - does it require a reboot to come into effect? |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | dunno |
| 00:40 | <gpd> | as i remember a libc6 update |
| 00:40 | <@caker> | I wouldn't think so, but you never know |
| 00:42 | <@caker> | gpd: maybe run ldconfig |
| 00:42 | [~] | caker shrugs |
| 00:43 | <gpd> | does apt produce logs like aptitude? |
| 00:43 | <gpd> | ldconfig done |
| 00:43 | <gpd> | still fine |
| 00:43 | <@caker> | gpd: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 00:44 | <gpd> | 2006-03-25 09:15:29 status installed libc6-dev 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 |
| 00:44 | <gpd> | my linode has obviously run since then without problem despite /lib/tls |
| 00:45 | <@caker> | on a 2.6 kernel? |
| 00:45 | <gpd> | yup |
| 00:45 | <gpd> | with mucho ssh and mysql |
| 00:45 | <gpd> | maybe ubuntu know something debian doesn't |
| 00:45 | <gpd> | if(uml){don't load /lib/tls;} ? |
| 00:46 | <@caker> | doubtful |
| 00:46 | <@caker> | reboot back and see |
| 00:46 | <gpd> | k |
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| 00:50 | <sydguy> | I didn't really know who to ask but some tech gurus tend to hang out on the channel, so apologies that this isn't linux related, but here goes: I have a dell inspiron 710m laptop, and a 160GB Seagate IDE HDD in a USB2/1394 enclosure. The enclosure works fine on my Win2K desktop, but the drive partitions aren't recognised by my WinXP laptop using USB2 or firewire. I suspect the laptop isn't doing LBA properly (required for disks >128GB) but it should be |
| 00:51 | [~] | caker wonders if sydguy's comment got cut off ... "(required for disks >128GB) but it should be" |
| 00:52 | <gpd_> | gpd@www:~$ uname -a |
| 00:52 | <gpd_> | Linux www.grahamdavies.net 2.6.15-linode16 #1 Wed Jan 4 17:30:25 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 00:52 | <sydguy> | thanks ...but it should be enabled by default on WinXP SP2 (which I have installed). Any ideas? |
| 00:52 | <gpd_> | gpd@www:~$ ldd /usr/bin/mysql linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libreadline.so.4 => /lib/libreadline.so.4 (0x4001e000) |
| 00:52 | <gpd_> | sydguy: if it works on 2K it should work on XP... no clue |
| 00:52 | <@caker> | gpd_: dmesg | grep -i TLS, please |
| 00:53 | <gpd_> | caker: nada |
| 00:53 | <@caker> | gpd_: weird |
| 00:53 | <sydguy> | thanks gpd_ yeah I'm clueless too |
| 00:53 | <gpd_> | sydguy: are the partitions actually Volumes? |
| 00:54 | <gpd_> | caker: any other tests? |
| 00:54 | <@caker> | gpd_: one sec |
| 00:55 | <sydguy> | um the partitions, I think so.. WinXP sees the drive as a "foreign disk" but won't let me import it. |
| 00:55 | <sydguy> | yet my win2k machine sees the whole thing fine |
| 00:55 | <sydguy> | so I'm suspecting the whole >128GB thing |
| 00:56 | <gpd_> | hmm... foreign disk sounds like windowsism rather than bios issue |
| 00:56 | <sydguy> | it's tricky! |
| 00:56 | <sydguy> | esp a USB drive, shouldn't be hampered by BIOS |
| 00:56 | <sydguy> | same response with firewire too (it's a combo enclosure) |
| 00:56 | <sydguy> | been googling all afternoon on it |
| 00:56 | <gpd_> | look at the partition table in administraition tools |
| 00:57 | <sydguy> | well that's what I've tried |
| 00:57 | <sydguy> | but WinXP says "foreign disk" and won't show the partition table.. :p |
| 00:57 | <gpd_> | can't you 'import foreign disk' or something equally weird |
| 00:57 | <sydguy> | you should be able to |
| 00:58 | <sydguy> | but won't give me that option |
| 00:58 | <gpd_> | i remember doing something like that with a Volume based partition |
| 00:58 | <sydguy> | hence the suspicion it isn't reading the entire partition table properly |
| 00:58 | <sydguy> | and the sub suspicion that LBA addressing isn't being honoured |
| 00:58 | <sydguy> | :-S |
| 00:58 | <gpd_> | is the data nowhere else... ? |
| 00:58 | <sydguy> | gpd, I tried going to grahamdavies.net and no web site there.. |
| 00:58 | <gpd_> | tried a linux live disk? |
| 00:59 | <gpd_> | caker - verily - you are correct... must be reboot issue |
| 00:59 | <sydguy> | um it's all good gpd the usb disk works fine on my win2k machine, if I have to I'll just ethernet the data across |
| 00:59 | <gpd_> | i'll go back to 2.6.16 then :) |
| 01:00 | <@caker> | gpd_: things stopped working? |
| 01:00 | <gpd_> | well mysql ain't working - hence the lack of site |
| 01:00 | <@caker> | cool |
| 01:00 | <@caker> | :) |
| 01:02 | <gpd_> | caker: ssh now frozen :) rebooting promptly |
| 01:02 | <@caker> | heh |
| 01:03 | <gpd_> | does the rest of the country have a day off tomorrow? or just .ca? |
| 01:04 | <sydguy> | what is the title of the holiday? |
| 01:04 | <gpd_> | Cesar Chavez (very CA!) |
| 01:06 | <gpd_> | caker: gpd@www:~$ dmesg | grep -i TLS |
| 01:06 | <gpd_> | Host TLS support detected |
| 01:06 | <@caker> | yup |
| 01:07 | <gpd_> | everything is as expected |
| 01:08 | <gpd_> | sydguy: http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-532488.php |
| 01:08 | <gpd_> | WinXP Home does not support dynamic NTFS partitions! |
| 01:09 | <@caker> | wow |
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| 01:14 | <gpd_> | sydguy: seemingly Knoppix can read dynamic ntfs - but if you can dual boot 2K you will be able to get the data off anyway... i just hope you have somewher to put it |
| 01:14 | <gpd> | !insult gpd_ |
| 01:14 | <@linbot> | gpd_ - You are nothing but a reeky assload of weasel-smelling snake. |
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| 05:12 | <@mikegrb> | gpd: not so much the reboot as restart of tls affected software that was needed, so since sshd wasn't restarted after the libc upgrade it didn't have problems as it was using the old version and no tls, same for other stuff |
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| 07:15 | <warewolf> | schweet |
| 07:15 | <warewolf> | more people signing up for RML |
| 07:15 | <warewolf> | 59 active + 10 inactive lamers |
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| 09:00 | <iggy> | caker: you abouts? |
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| 09:49 | <tsi> | errggg "oops" |
| 09:49 | <tsi> | bought a gig to make a new root partition, with the intent of dropping a gig off the old one a month later |
| 09:49 | <tsi> | just now realized the gig i bought is 1024 and the gig i'm about to dump is 1000 |
| 09:49 | [~] | tsi shaves off a bit of swap, slides everything under the rug |
| 09:50 | <tsi> | stupid 10^ and 2^ |
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| 09:57 | <gpd> | warewolf: you should have 9 inactive lamers now :P |
| 09:58 | <gpd> | I thought you had deleted my account - but turns out i was just using the wrong pw |
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| 10:01 | <gpd> | or not... |
| 10:02 | <tsi> | i wish my physical hosts booted as fast as uml |
| 10:02 | <gpd> | caker: gpd@www:/proc$ ls io_status |
| 10:02 | <gpd> | ls: io_status: No such file or directory |
| 10:03 | <gpd> | couldn't open /proc/io_status for reading (No such file or directory) at ./rml_client.pl line 35. |
| 10:06 | <iggy> | gpd: xen? |
| 10:07 | <@mikegrb> | gpd: with the brand new kernel, right? |
| 10:07 | <tsi> | that was my thought |
| 10:08 | <gpd> | yup |
| 10:09 | <gpd> | sorry - mikegrb yes - iggy no |
| 10:09 | <@mikegrb> | \033[5~ |
| 10:09 | <@mikegrb> | har |
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| 10:09 | <@mikegrb> | # mconsole gpd io_status 2>/dev/null |
| 10:09 | <gpd> | [gpd@host47 lish][gpd@host47 lish]# io_status |
| 10:09 | <@mikegrb> | OK io_count=1090169 io_rate=0 io_tokens=399996 token_refill=512 token_max=400000 |
| 10:09 | <gpd> | OK io_count=1090172 io_rate=3 io_tokens=400000 token_refill=512 token_max=400000 |
| 10:09 | <@mikegrb> | right |
| 10:09 | <@mikegrb> | caker forget to apply the io_status proc patch |
| 10:10 | <@mikegrb> | so the io token stuff is there you just can't see it from inside the node |
| 10:10 | <@mikegrb> | I'll make sure he sees this |
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| 10:29 | <@caker> | aye |
| 10:31 | <iggy> | caker: I'm ready when you are (but no rush... I'll be around) |
| 10:31 | [~] | mikegrb rushes iggy |
| 10:36 | [~] | gpd discovers x2vnc for windows laptop, ubuntu desktop switcherama |
| 10:38 | <cmantito> | I prefer synergy2 |
| 10:38 | <cmantito> | synergy2.sf.net |
| 10:38 | <cmantito> | multiple OSs, more than one system. I go iBook-Linux-Winders |
| 10:39 | [~] | gpd looks |
| 10:39 | <efudd> | synergy occasionally goes into strange states |
| 10:39 | <efudd> | but is good. |
| 10:40 | <cmantito> | only *real* problem I have is when i leave one screen and a modifier gets "stuck" down. |
| 10:40 | <gpd> | is x2vnc bad? or is this just better? |
| 10:40 | <cmantito> | I think this is just better. x2vnc should work. |
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| 10:57 | <gpd> | Detected spyware: tightvnc ! |
| 10:58 | <@mikegrb> | you are so tight |
| 11:05 | <gpd> | grr... synergy failed to connect: incompatible client 1.2... |
| 11:08 | [~] | gpd aliens synergy 1.3 rpm - error loading shared libraries... |
| 11:08 | <gpd> | maybe i should stick with x2vnc! |
| 11:16 | <gpd> | ok - all working :) |
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| 11:22 | <gpd> | oh dear - reboot failed it seems |
| 11:23 | <@caker> | gpd: hmm? |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | says powered off |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | but lpm says boot success |
| 11:23 | <@caker> | logview via Lish? |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | TCP reno registered |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling driver |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | GRE over IPv4 tunneling driver |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | ip_conntrack ve |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | stops after that |
| 11:23 | <@caker> | which host? |
| 11:23 | <gpd> | 47 |
| 11:23 | <@caker> | ok |
| 11:24 | <@caker> | fire off another reboot, I guess |
| 11:24 | <gpd> | no reboot - trying boot |
| 11:25 | <gpd> | says success but not true :( |
| 11:25 | <gpd> | trying reboot from lish |
| 11:25 | <gpd> | going down... |
| 11:26 | <gpd> | nope... still busted |
| 11:26 | <@mikegrb> | the success reffers to the boot job being successfully run, not necessarily that the linode successfully booted |
| 11:27 | <gpd> | reboot from lish also didn't work |
| 11:27 | <@caker> | gpd: issue another boot, please |
| 11:27 | <gpd> | from lish or lpm? |
| 11:27 | <@caker> | doesn't matter |
| 11:27 | <gpd> | i also have two dead screens in lish |
| 11:28 | <jekil> | how much time to enter in the xen beta test after request? |
| 11:28 | <gpd> | * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server... [fail] |
| 11:29 | <@caker> | huh .. statusd is killing your node |
| 11:29 | <gpd> | it is running but behaving like tls is causing problems |
| 11:29 | <gpd> | shall i revert to 2.6.15? |
| 11:29 | <gpd> | or do you wish to test stuff? |
| 11:29 | <@caker> | it's not a kernel problem |
| 11:30 | <gpd> | it was fine last night on reboot into new 2.6.16... ? |
| 11:31 | <gpd> | trying 2.6.15 |
| 11:32 | <gpd> | seems fine now after mv /lib/tls |
| 11:32 | <@caker> | it's not a kernel problem <-- :) |
| 11:33 | <gpd> | no - seems fine after boot into 2.6.15! |
| 11:33 | <@caker> | move it back into place, please |
| 11:33 | <@caker> | I'm fixing stuff |
| 11:33 | <gpd> | oh |
| 11:33 | <@caker> | can we reboot back into 2.6.16? |
| 11:33 | <gpd> | yeah - one sec |
| 11:34 | <gpd> | what were you fixing? |
| 11:34 | <@caker> | debugging. more like it |
| 11:35 | <@caker> | ok .. statusd and dispatch were racing |
| 11:35 | <gpd> | ok up with 16... moving tls back |
| 11:36 | <gpd> | restarting mysql - ok |
| 11:36 | <@caker> | ok -- let's make sure it isn't the UML crashing (pretty sure it wasn't, cause status was killing off your UML) |
| 11:36 | <@caker> | we should reboot once with that new kernel and /tls in place |
| 11:36 | <gpd> | k - going down again |
| 11:36 | <@mikegrb> | \ |
| 11:37 | <gpd> | err... just rebooted... logged in... and spontaneous reboot? |
| 11:38 | <gpd> | maybe queued from lpm? |
| 11:38 | <@caker> | ah shit, I know what that is |
| 11:38 | <gpd> | SysRQ: emergency sync |
| 11:38 | <gpd> | err |
| 11:39 | <gpd> | up again |
| 11:39 | <@mikegrb> | har har har |
| 11:39 | <gpd> | seems to be staying up this time |
| 11:39 | <gpd> | what was that all about? |
| 11:40 | <@caker> | har |
| 11:40 | <@mikegrb> | oh nm read sendmail's headers wrong |
| 11:40 | <@mikegrb> | it helo'ed with the mail server's ip |
| 11:47 | <jekil> | how much time to enter in the xen beta test after request? |
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| 11:58 | <@caker> | jekil: one sec |
| 11:58 | <@caker> | jekil: not long .. did you submit one? |
| 11:59 | <jekil> | caker: yes |
| 11:59 | <@caker> | jekil: which username? |
| 11:59 | <jekil> | caker: snakeuno |
| 12:01 | <jekil> | caker: i must upgrade to 2.6 now or after migration? |
| 12:05 | <@caker> | jekil: xen is 2.6 only .. there's really nothing to do but migrate and boot back up |
| 12:05 | <@caker> | jekil: migration configured |
| 12:06 | <jekil> | caker: ok, thanks |
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| 12:23 | <snorp> | hey dudes |
| 12:23 | <snorp> | so I just got he info for the xenode migration thing |
| 12:23 | <snorp> | but I can't seem to find the info about it from the overview page |
| 12:24 | <snorp> | <- retarded |
| 12:24 | <@caker> | snorp: one moment |
| 12:26 | <@caker> | snorp: check your email again, please -- there's an updated email for you |
| 12:26 | <snorp> | ah |
| 12:26 | <snorp> | thanks |
| 12:31 | <fo0bar> | http://www.finnix.org/blog/2006/03/31/finnix-870-released/ <-- caker |
| 12:31 | <fo0bar> | http://www.finnix.org/Image:Finnix-ipod.jpg |
| 12:31 | <@caker> | hahaa |
| 12:31 | <@caker> | !!!!! |
| 12:32 | <@caker> | Total memory: 303780k ?! |
| 12:32 | <@caker> | er, 30380k |
| 12:33 | <fo0bar> | yeah, 32MB on most models |
| 12:33 | <fo0bar> | I *think* the earliest ones had 16 |
| 12:33 | <@caker> | that's a nano, right? |
| 12:33 | <fo0bar> | but I've only tested this on a nano and a 3G |
| 12:33 | <fo0bar> | yeah |
| 12:33 | <@caker> | cool ... I'll need to try that :) |
| 12:34 | <@caker> | welp .. a libc upgrade on host27 got totally botched |
| 12:34 | <@caker> | I managed to move the correct libs onto the drive, just not in the correct place |
| 12:34 | <@caker> | looks like I'll need to boot into an initrd with some tools to fix this :( |
| 12:34 | <@caker> | anyhow, I'm going to leave it like it is for now (nodes are still running) |
| 12:36 | <gpd> | Finnix-iPod includes OpenSSH, but is not started by default. This is because the server key generation takes FOREVER. I tried to let it generate the server keys, but gave up after almost a full day of waiting. <-- haha |
| 12:36 | <@mikegrb> | fo0bar: what is the name of your employer? |
| 12:36 | <fo0bar> | gpd: that's what happens when you try to do key-based encryption on something as powerful as a toaster :) |
| 12:36 | <fo0bar> | mikegrb: why? |
| 12:36 | <@mikegrb> | so I can send you flowers? |
| 12:37 | <fo0bar> | hahaha |
| 12:37 | <@mikegrb> | I'm watching that episode of diggnation |
| 12:37 | <fo0bar> | oh |
| 12:38 | <fo0bar> | twelve horses, it was mentioned a few times |
| 12:38 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
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| 12:44 | <gpd> | fo0bar: what speed are the iPods? they must have hardware mp3/aac decoders? |
| 12:49 | [~] | mikegrb decodes gpd |
| 12:49 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Distro: Finnix 87.0 in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2195>; |
| 12:49 | [~] | mikegrb <3 his new computer |
| 12:50 | [~] | gpd searches for iPod cable |
| 12:51 | <warewolf> | what? |
| 12:51 | <warewolf> | you are kidding |
| 12:52 | <warewolf> | finnix for the iPod? |
| 12:52 | <warewolf> | please tell me that was a joke. |
| 12:52 | <Spads> | warewolf: it doesn't run sendmail, sorry. |
| 12:52 | <warewolf> | Spads: go away. |
| 12:52 | <gpd> | April 1st is tomorrow... |
| 12:52 | <gpd> | what timezone is fo0bar in? heh |
| 12:53 | <Spads> | Sat Apr 1 03:53:01 JST 2006 |
| 13:01 | [~] | caker walsk away from host27 before stabbing himself |
| 13:02 | <snorp> | so |
| 13:02 | <snorp> | is there anything happening on upgrading the FC distros available? :) |
| 13:03 | <gpd> | snorp: why do you use FC on a linode? VNC? |
| 13:03 | <@mikegrb> | they are the versions they were due to limitations of FC |
| 13:03 | <snorp> | gpd: I hate debian |
| 13:03 | <snorp> | gpd: (hate is a little strong) |
| 13:03 | <@mikegrb> | gpd: he doesn't like it when computers just work |
| 13:03 | [~] | mikegrb runs away |
| 13:03 | <snorp> | heh |
| 13:04 | <gpd> | is ubuntu any better than debian in your opinion? |
| 13:04 | <snorp> | mikegrb: I thought it was just the lack of nptl that was causing problems |
| 13:04 | <snorp> | ubuntu does seem better |
| 13:04 | <snorp> | gpd: I work for novell |
| 13:04 | <@mikegrb> | snorp: but that doesn't require the other distros to be ancient |
| 13:04 | <snorp> | gpd: so I have a pre-disposition to rpm distros |
| 13:04 | <snorp> | (and, also, distros that suck) |
| 13:05 | <snorp> | mikegrb: nod |
| 13:05 | <gpd> | badger caker to make opensuse image? |
| 13:05 | <snorp> | hah |
| 13:05 | <tierra> | hehe |
| 13:05 | <snorp> | ok, I still want my linode to work :) |
| 13:05 | <gpd> | you really do work for Novell! :) |
| 13:05 | <@mikegrb> | the specific issue wrt to nptl is FC has stuff staticly linked to libaries using nptl |
| 13:05 | <snorp> | haha |
| 13:06 | <@mikegrb> | so there is no way around it |
| 13:06 | <snorp> | yeah, but that should be ok on xen though, right? |
| 13:06 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 13:06 | <snorp> | cool |
| 13:06 | <@mikegrb> | and the newest uml kernel available has nptl support as well |
| 13:06 | <gpd> | or with the new 2.6.16 kernel no? |
| 13:06 | <snorp> | yeah, noticed that |
| 13:06 | <@mikegrb> | believe it was made available within the last day or two |
| 13:07 | <tierra> | I do believe his original question still stands then... "is there anything happening on upgrading the FC distros available?" |
| 13:07 | <gpd> | true - but it is possible to update with yum and crossed fingers |
| 13:08 | <gpd> | maybe a little light animal sacrifice |
| 13:10 | <@mikegrb> | tierra: it will happen eventually, that was an explanation for why it hasn't happened yet |
| 13:10 | <tierra> | k, cuz I was kinda curious too |
| 13:10 | <@mikegrb> | that and it looks like only 7% of users have a FC2 deployment |
| 13:11 | <snorp> | really? |
| 13:11 | <snorp> | what are most people using? |
| 13:11 | <snorp> | don't say debian |
| 13:11 | <@mikegrb> | 49% debian |
| 13:11 | <snorp> | :) |
| 13:11 | <tierra> | hehe |
| 13:11 | <gpd> | how many ubuntu now? |
| 13:11 | <@mikegrb> | 2% |
| 13:11 | <tierra> | too many |
| 13:11 | <snorp> | I can't believe people use gentoo |
| 13:12 | <snorp> | on a linode |
| 13:12 | <npmr> | isn't there a pie graph on the website somewhere? |
| 13:12 | <@mikegrb> | not publicly available |
| 13:12 | <snorp> | like, isn't that the most painful thing you can imagine? |
| 13:12 | <gpd> | snorp: you are clearly itching for a distrofight |
| 13:12 | <Spads> | snorp: I hear they don't upgrade libc ever |
| 13:12 | <snorp> | gpd: :) |
| 13:12 | <snorp> | Spads: heh |
| 13:13 | <snorp> | mikegrb: how many centos |
| 13:13 | <Spads> | I dunno, I hear there's a way you can grab all binary packages |
| 13:13 | <@mikegrb> | 1% |
| 13:13 | <snorp> | I would be using centos if 4.x was out when I got my linode |
| 13:13 | <Spads> | so maybe that's how they do it |
| 13:13 | <Spads> | okay, I should go get lunches |
| 13:13 | <Spads> | phew |
| 13:16 | <tierra> | no reason you couldn't run Gentoo on your Linode if your building packages on a remote box with the same profile |
| 13:35 | <JasonF> | i run it and compile stuff locally |
| 13:35 | <JasonF> | you just have to be veryyy savvy |
| 13:39 | <Spads> | which rules out most gentoo users |
| 13:39 | <tierra> | and put up with an hour or two of downtime per week while you build packages (as none of your running services are going to be very useful while compiling, and if you keep them running, it's only going to slow down your build time) |
| 13:39 | <Spads> | tierra: no, he said compile stuff locally |
| 13:40 | <gpd> | I am confused... a few days ago it was stated that there was no BSD for Xen... ??? |
| 13:40 | <tierra> | I just assumed "you just have to be veryyy savvy" implied that he really meant he builds on his Linode |
| 13:41 | <tierra> | as it's sort of a contradictory statement to what I said |
| 13:41 | <gpd> | yet the Xen 2.x Demo CD includes BSD guests |
| 13:41 | <tierra> | maybe no BSD for Xen on Linode currently |
| 13:43 | <gpd> | 21:33 <@caker> BSD Xenodes are only a possiblity when there are tools for Linux to manage BSD filesystems |
| 13:46 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 13:46 | <@mikegrb> | can't mount a bsd fs from inside linux |
| 13:47 | <gpd> | so this breaks the lpm or other linode magick? |
| 13:49 | <@mikegrb> | well it makes it impossible to set the root password in the image |
| 13:49 | <@mikegrb> | that's the main thing |
| 13:51 | <gpd> | what about separate LPM running on BSD host? |
| 13:52 | <gpd> | too much pain for too little gain - not enough demand for BSD? |
| 13:52 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: lindoe vs. godaddy's virtual dedicated servers in Sales Questions and Answers <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2166>; |
| 13:52 | <@mikegrb> | perhaps |
| 13:53 | <tierra> | that sounds like a fun forum topic |
| 13:53 | <tierra> | I was fairly surprised the first time I found out GoDaddy did VPSs... |
| 13:53 | <@mikegrb> | the guy that left us for godaddy and then came back to us after godaddy deleted his fses should reply |
| 13:54 | <gpd> | might be him... he talks about leaving and then coming back ^^ |
| 13:54 | <@mikegrb> | oh |
| 13:54 | <gpd> | The nightmare story: one Sunday afternoon my GoDaddy VPS just vanished. BOFF! Gone. About 12h later and numerous tickets I was told there was a security breach. |
| 13:54 | <tierra> | I would of thought GoDaddy needed to first fix up their shared hosting system to something a little more usable before offering VPSs |
| 13:55 | <gpd> | they recently decided to drop Linux and go with MS... cretins |
| 13:55 | <tierra> | haha |
| 13:57 | <gpd> | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/23/008229 |
| 13:58 | <@mikegrb> | http://spam.thegrebs.com/reports/spam_by_country.pl <-- end of the month |
| 13:59 | <gpd> | % Cum --- haha - I get a lot of that type of spam |
| 13:59 | <@mikegrb> | ;) |
| 13:59 | <@mikegrb> | it's Cum %, silly |
| 13:59 | <@mikegrb> | (cummulitive) |
| 14:00 | <@mikegrb> | bendy24, who isn't here at the moment as he is moving, is mentioned in the source |
| 14:00 | <@mikegrb> | # bendy24 will love this one |
| 14:01 | <gpd> | cummulative = 369,000 pages with incorrect spelling ;) |
| 14:02 | <@mikegrb> | now you know why I abbreviated it ;) |
| 14:02 | <@mikegrb> | didn't feel like opening up the dictionary |
| 14:05 | <gpd> | did you write that perl? |
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| 14:09 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 14:09 | <@mikegrb> | you can click on a graph for a larger image |
| 14:09 | <@mikegrb> | need to get around to stating that in a caption |
| 14:26 | <@linbot> | New news from forums: Scheduled Maintenance: host27 - April 2nd, 7:00 PM Eastern in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2196>; |
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| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | Checking filesystems |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | WARNING: bad format on line 9 of /etc/fstab |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | /dev/sda1: recovering journal |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | /dev/sda1 has gone 308 days without being checked, check forced. |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | /dev/sda1: 103/26104 files (16.5% non-contiguous), 91505/104391 blocks |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | Checking all file systems. |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | [/sbin/fsck.ext3 (1) -- /boot][/sbin/fsck.ext3 (1) -- /boot] fsck.ext3 -a /dev/sda1 |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | [ OK ][ OK ] |
| 15:57 | <@mikegrb> | har |
| 15:59 | <Spads> | ? |
| 15:59 | <@caker> | mcm |
| 15:59 | <Spads> | ah |
| 16:00 | <@caker> | we just lost power to our apt. complex .. just a strong rain storm .. but then -- sirens |
| 16:00 | <@caker> | it's back now (obviously) :) |
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| 17:45 | <Redgore> | heya all |
| 17:55 | <@caker> | hello |
| 18:09 | <tierra> | mikegrb: there's some weird bug with the "Watch this forum for posts" feature on the forums |
| 18:09 | <tierra> | half the emails I get say "Hello mastabog!" while the other half say "Hello !" |
| 18:10 | <tierra> | I noticed there is a mastabog on the forums |
| 18:10 | <tierra> | but that's not me |
| 18:11 | <tierra> | seems fairly random when it picks one over the other |
| 18:32 | <gpd> | another wierdness from debian->ubuntu = rndc connect failed when restarting bind9 ? |
| 18:34 | <gpd> | since i don't even know what rndc is - this presents a minor problem |
| 18:43 | <gpd> | hmm.. seems i had to setup my rndc.conf and keys to get rndc to work |
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| 19:49 | <encode> | hmm, slashdot is pink |
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| 19:54 | <alnr> | so its not just me |
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| 19:54 | <encode> | hehe alnr |
| 19:54 | <encode> | i believe its april fools related |
| 19:54 | <encode> | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/31/1644225 |
| 19:55 | <alnr> | omg ponies! |
| 19:55 | <encode> | indeed |
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| 19:55 | <gpd> | it appears the creators of /.'s last interaction with members of the opposite sex was when they were 8 |
| 19:56 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 19:56 | <encode> | lol |
| 19:56 | <encode> | cmdrtaco is married |
| 19:56 | <encode> | so hopefuly it was a little later than 8 |
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| 19:56 | <@mikegrb> | make it more likely to be 8 |
| 19:56 | [~] | mikegrb runs |
| 19:56 | <encode> | hehe |
| 19:57 | [~] | mikegrb has 2.5 GBs of ram in his desktop now |
| 19:57 | <@mikegrb> | and dual 64 bit processors |
| 19:57 | <encode> | nice |
| 19:57 | <@mikegrb> | it is > * |
| 19:57 | <encode> | mikegrb.wealth > encode.wealth |
| 19:58 | <@mikegrb> | ha ha no |
| 19:58 | <@mikegrb> | got a giant check from the VA |
| 19:58 | <@mikegrb> | it's my first computer that wasn't roughly the cheapest thing available at the time |
| 19:58 | <encode> | the VA? should i know what that is? |
| 19:58 | <@mikegrb> | Veteran's Administration |
| 19:58 | <encode> | oh |
| 19:59 | <encode> | a US thing I guess |
| 19:59 | <gpd> | mikegrb: G5 dual 2.x? |
| 19:59 | <@mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/yum.png |
| 19:59 | <@mikegrb> | 2.3 |
| 19:59 | <@mikegrb> | was going to get a quad 2.5 |
| 19:59 | <@mikegrb> | but decided to get the dual so I could get a spiffy tomtom 700 |
| 20:00 | <encode> | so your g5 has dual monitors from the look of that screenshot |
| 20:00 | <@mikegrb> | yeah |
| 20:00 | <@mikegrb> | CRT though :< |
| 20:01 | <encode> | i suppose the giant check wasnt enough for a dual g5, a tomtom700, *and* a 30" apple lcd |
| 20:01 | <@mikegrb> | I tried |
| 20:01 | <@mikegrb> | I could have gotten the lowest end powermac and a 30% |
| 20:01 | <@mikegrb> | but decided this was best for now |
| 20:02 | <encode> | yeah |
| 20:02 | <gpd> | mikegrb: any new camera gadgets? |
| 20:02 | <gpd> | I got a 1:1 macro lens :) |
| 20:02 | <@mikegrb> | nice |
| 20:02 | <@mikegrb> | not really |
| 20:02 | <@mikegrb> | unless you count the computer |
| 20:03 | <@mikegrb> | photoshop will run as fast as ms paint now! |
| 20:03 | <gpd> | my gf has a quad 2.5 at work with 30' -- bitch |
| 20:03 | <@mikegrb> | mmm |
| 20:03 | <@mikegrb> | I can see why she is your gf ;) |
| 20:04 | <gpd> | aye |
| 20:04 | <encode> | ahahaaha |
| 20:05 | <gpd> | synergy rocks... just woke up laptop and all systems go :) |
| 20:06 | <@mikegrb> | indeed |
| 20:06 | <@mikegrb> | I couldn't make it work with my hardware Xterm though :< |
| 20:06 | <encode> | i haven't really used OS X, or any apple products except an ipod |
| 20:07 | <encode> | but i'm hoping to borrow a friend's ibook thats just upgraded to a macbook |
| 20:07 | <encode> | so then i can see what all the fuss is about ;) |
| 20:08 | <@mikegrb> | got an ibook about 3 years ago |
| 20:08 | <@caker> | har @ slashdot |
| 20:08 | <@mikegrb> | wife said "why, macs suck?" |
| 20:08 | <@mikegrb> | about 5 months ago she got a new computer, she picked a mac mini |
| 20:08 | <encode> | hehe |
| 20:09 | <efudd> | F /. |
| 20:09 | <@caker> | hehe |
| 20:09 | <efudd> | /. is lame as hell on april1 |
| 20:09 | <efudd> | fuckers just DO NOT GET IT |
| 20:09 | <efudd> | send them thinkgeek.com for something that's kinda funny |
| 20:10 | <@caker> | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/usbtanner.shtml <-- totally stole my idea |
| 20:10 | <efudd> | the wireless power is good |
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| 20:11 | <@mikegrb> | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/buzzaire.shtml <-- /me orders 100 |
| 20:12 | <encode> | hahha |
| 20:23 | <heidi> | hrm |
| 20:23 | <heidi> | not a chance |
| 20:24 | <heidi> | the mac mini was not my idea |
| 20:24 | <heidi> | I gave in because mikegrb was mad at me when I tried to say no |
| 20:25 | <heidi> | but I am happy with the mini |
| 20:25 | <heidi> | although compared to the g5 it is slow |
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| 20:41 | <@mikegrb> | lolz |
| 20:41 | <Viza> | lol |
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| 22:33 | <fo0bar> | http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?IDLink=1987524&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.naplesnews.com%2Fnews%2F2006%2Fmar%2F30%2Ftraffic_tip_week_dont_drive_pet_snake_around_your_%2F%3Flocal_news <-- SNAKES ON A CAR |
| 22:33 | <fo0bar> | stupid fark redirect |
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| 22:37 | <fo0bar> | http://www.shoplocal.com/azcentral/default.aspx?action=entry&pretailerid=-98572&ContentRetailerID=18081&r=632794414062579732843804540 <-- hah, look at the grocery store's logo |
| 22:37 | <fo0bar> | seems a bit familiar... |
| 22:38 | <encode> | anyone here had experience with setting up remote X / XDMCP ? |
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| 23:07 | <taupehat> | encode: yeah, I run LTSP servers. What's your question? |
| 23:07 | <warewolf> | oh god |
| 23:07 | <warewolf> | slashdot. |
| 23:07 | <taupehat> | heh |
| 23:08 | <taupehat> | 4/1 in some parts of the world |
| 23:08 | <taupehat> | roflmao |
| 23:08 | <taupehat> | ponies!!! |
| 23:09 | <warewolf> | I must have the 1up mushroom kit. |
| 23:09 | <taupehat> | heh |
| 23:09 | <encode> | taupehat: well, i'm about to go out unfortunately |
| 23:09 | <encode> | but in a nutshell |
| 23:10 | <encode> | i can connect fine using Xwin-32 and XDMCP |
| 23:10 | <encode> | but i dont want to use Xwin-32 because of its cost |
| 23:10 | <encode> | so, im trying to use Xming |
| 23:10 | <encode> | i connect fine, i see the gdm screen |
| 23:10 | <encode> | enter user name and password |
| 23:10 | <taupehat> | so boot from a knoppix disk and say X -query foo:30 |
| 23:10 | <encode> | then nothing, all i see is a blank screen |
| 23:10 | <warewolf> | oh shit |
| 23:11 | <warewolf> | the RFID t-shirt appears to be real? |
| 23:11 | <taupehat> | encode: ping me on monday and I'll link you to some troubleshooting for that |
| 23:11 | <taupehat> | or just boot from knoppix =] |
| 23:13 | <encode> | ok |
| 23:13 | <warewolf> | ouch ok |
| 23:13 | <warewolf> | slashdot is blinding me |
| 23:13 | <encode> | the thing i dont understand is why xwin32 will work using xdmcp and not xming |
| 23:13 | <warewolf> | KILL IT WITH FIRE |
| 23:13 | <taupehat> | I'm sure it's an x client thing |
| 23:13 | <encode> | but yeah, like you say, i'll run knoppix and see how i go |
| 23:14 | <encode> | thanks |
| 23:14 | <taupehat> | like what kind of xterm is it declaring itself to be to the server |
| 23:18 | <taupehat> | http://youtube.com/watch?v=QaQw9V4Upj4 |
| 23:47 | <gpd> | xlnt boarding dog - i am surprisingly impressed |
| 23:48 | <taupehat> | yeah |
| 23:48 | <taupehat> | I thought meh and then he started steering his board |
| 23:49 | <taupehat> | great way to get the dog to exercise, too |
| 23:49 | <gpd> | ya - crazy curb avoidance - obviously he crashed a lot in the past! |
| 23:49 | <taupehat> | hehe |
| 23:49 | <taupehat> | he hasn't far to fall |
| --- | Log | closed Sat Apr 01 00:00:35 2006 |
