| --- | Log | opened Wed Mar 16 00:00:16 2005 |
| 00:32 | Beirdo | OK... my linode now has firewall rules |
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| 00:46 | hypnetric | are linode servers default secure? |
| 00:46 | hypnetric | damn, my throat kind of hurts. |
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| 00:52 | Beirdo | well, I bet that spiked my IO usage nicely |
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| 01:14 | hypnetric | uhm |
| 01:14 | hypnetric | anybody know the ip to connect to linode, whichever datacents |
| 01:14 | hypnetric | centers* |
| 01:14 | hypnetric | oh my bad |
| 01:14 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 01:14 | hypnetric | sorry, was thinking something else lol |
| 01:15 | hypnetric | disregard that |
| 01:23 | hypnetric | nice, boot it yourself and everything |
| 01:23 | hypnetric | very pimpage |
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| 01:32 | Beirdo | Hmmm |
| 01:32 | fo0bar | mikegrb: suhgeshion |
| 01:32 | Beirdo | trying to generate an SSL key for use with stunnel... |
| 01:33 | Beirdo | and it ain't doin' muvh |
| 01:33 | Beirdo | much rather |
| 01:33 | fo0bar | Beirdo: do you have both the key and the crt in a .pem file? I think stunnel requires that |
| 01:34 | Beirdo | I'm trying to generate the key file |
| 01:34 | Beirdo | I put in the openssl req line, and it's doing squat |
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| 01:39 | hypnetric | god i miss debian so much |
| 01:39 | hypnetric | man, this is great. this made my day. |
| 01:39 | hypnetric | linode's fast service and being able to login and use debian :) |
| 01:39 | hypnetric | couldn't be any happier |
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| 01:47 | Beirdo | there it goes |
| 01:48 | Beirdo | missed the -newkey param |
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| 01:54 | hypnetric | what variant of linux does everybody use here |
| 01:54 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 01:54 | hypnetric | beside redhat lol |
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| 02:12 | Beirdo_ | yo, mikegrb, you awake? |
| 02:13 | Beirdo_ | tonight SUCKS for me computer-wise. |
| 02:13 | Beirdo_ | now I'm having routing issues to theplanet |
| 02:15 | Beirdo_ | 12 POS6-0.GW1.DFW13.ALTER.NET (152.63.103.85) 65.469 ms 63.549 ms 62.814 ms |
| 02:15 | Beirdo_ | times out after... |
| 02:16 | hypnetric | yeah, planet bandwidth sucks ass. |
| 02:16 | hypnetric | their horrible. |
| 02:16 | hypnetric | i've used their dedicated servers and 3rd parties through them |
| 02:16 | hypnetric | all horrible trace/lag problems |
| 02:16 | Beirdo_ | this isn't bandwidth per-se |
| 02:16 | Beirdo_ | this is lack of connectivity |
| 02:18 | Beirdo_ | seems to me their BGP must be borked as it hasn't reconverged to a different route yet |
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| 03:19 | | * Beirdo_ is away : Zzzzz. Idle 60 minutes (wake up!) |
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| 03:38 | @caker | 02:16 < hypnetric> yeah, planet bandwidth sucks ass. |
| 03:38 | @caker | 02:16 < hypnetric> their horrible. |
| 03:38 | @caker | ?? |
| 03:39 | | * caker realizes taking a nap at 9:00 until now was probably a mistake |
| 03:39 | | * Beirdo_ is back |
| 03:39 | Beirdo_ | heh |
| 03:39 | @caker | I'm screwed |
| 03:40 | @caker | Beirdo_: get your DC boxes back online? |
| 03:40 | Beirdo_ | they are back now, but man didn't they disappear on me when I needed them most (the connection to theplanet that is) |
| 03:41 | Beirdo_ | and now it's time for me to go to bed. |
| 03:41 | @caker | the DC boxes or the Linode? |
| 03:41 | Beirdo_ | night all |
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| 04:31 | linbot | New news from forums: IO-Nice in Feature Request/Bug Report <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1147>; |
| 04:32 | CryptWizard | cool script |
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| 04:42 | | * Beirdo_ is away : Zzzzz. Idle 60 minutes (wake up!) |
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| 07:13 | linbot | New news from forums: Control Panels in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=179>; |
| 07:29 | linbot | New news from forums: SSH Brute Force Attacks in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1157>; || REVERSE DNS what kinda of server can do this ability? in General Discussion <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=465>; |
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| 07:49 | @caker | RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 |
| 07:49 | @caker | VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. |
| 07:49 | @caker | Freeing unused kernel memory: 484k freed |
| 07:49 | @caker | Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. |
| 07:49 | @caker | grrr |
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| 08:35 | --- | Channel: services.oftc.net changed the topic of #linode to: The Linode Virtual Server hang out | http://www.linode.com/ | http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/ | http://www.linode.com/forums/ | http://www.linode.com/wiki/ |
| 08:35 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [-o mikegrb] by ChanServ |
| 08:35 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [+o mikegrb] by ChanServ |
| 08:37 | | * caker abandons mkinitrd and rolls his own |
| 08:37 | @caker | pfft. |
| 08:40 | @caker | bash-3.00# ps auxhf |
| 08:40 | @caker | PID Uid VmSize Stat Command |
| 08:40 | @caker | bash-3.00# |
| 08:40 | @caker | heh |
| 09:17 | | * mikegrb bashes caker |
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| 09:19 | @caker | I think I just won the initrd game |
| 09:19 | synic | is there any known reason why ssh would be timing out on my linode? |
| 09:20 | @caker | synic: works for me: |
| 09:20 | @caker | [root@host32 root]# ssh test@67.18.92.178 |
| 09:20 | @caker | Password: |
| 09:26 | @caker | [root@host27 ~]# df -h |
| 09:26 | @caker | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 09:26 | @caker | /dev/mapper/vg1-root 26G 24G 1.3G 95% / |
| 09:26 | @caker | none 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm |
| 09:26 | @caker | muhahaha |
| 09:36 | | * Beirdo_ is back |
| 09:36 | Beirdo_ | nice :) |
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| 09:38 | Beirdo | oops |
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| 10:18 | tjfontaine | caker: told ya bout initrd :) |
| 10:18 | @caker | tjfontaine: it was a bitch, bigtime |
| 10:18 | @caker | mkinitrd is useless |
| 10:19 | @caker | along with other scripts I found online |
| 10:19 | tjfontaine | figures |
| 10:19 | @caker | went with a busybox type config |
| 10:19 | @caker | along with bash+libs |
| 10:19 | | * tjfontaine nods |
| 10:19 | tjfontaine | caker: why don't *you* write a script :) |
| 10:20 | @caker | yeah -- I'll release the initrd if anyone wants it |
| 10:20 | tjfontaine | 2.6.11? |
| 10:21 | @caker | will work with anything, really |
| 10:21 | @caker | no modules involved, just pivot_root, but you could easily place a few mods and modprobes in the script |
| 10:22 | | * tjfontaine nods |
| 10:22 | tjfontaine | if you put it up somewhere I'd love to take a stab at it |
| 10:22 | | * mikegrb stabs tjfontaine |
| 10:22 | @caker | ok, still need to clean it up a bit |
| 10:22 | tjfontaine | mikegrb: :< |
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| 10:37 | linbot | New news from forums: php 4.3.10 install problems in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1557>; |
| 10:45 | satyap | hey admins: i have a perl script to scrape the stats from my member page, like number of jobs in queue, runnming or otherwise, transfer status, etc. think i should post it somewhere? |
| 10:45 | hernan43|31 | yeah |
| 10:45 | satyap | whee |
| 10:45 | tjfontaine | forums and what not |
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| 10:45 | heidi | hernan43|31: you aren't an admin |
| 10:45 | hernan43|31 | oh |
| 10:45 | heidi | he said admins |
| 10:45 | hernan43|31 | oops |
| 10:45 | heidi | heh |
| 10:45 | satyap | :) |
| 10:46 | hernan43|31 | technically I am an admin |
| 10:46 | hernan43|31 | just not a linode one |
| 10:46 | | * satyap is also an admin, then |
| 10:46 | @caker | I'd like to see if before people go scraping the site |
| 10:46 | satyap | caker: sure, where do you want it? |
| 10:46 | @caker | for instance, I have the bandwidth stats available via a small XML file, that's not that taxing on the webserver |
| 10:46 | @caker | I could do the smae for the data you're requesting |
| 10:46 | eanderson | I have a problem on my linode. The control panel thinks the machine is off but it isn't off. I need to reboot it but I can't because the control panel only has a "boot" option. |
| 10:46 | satyap | oh ooh, that'd rock my socks |
| 10:47 | @caker | eanderson: send a shutdown via Lish |
| 10:47 | eanderson | how do you get back to the lish console. I keep getting the login prompt for my machine. |
| 10:47 | | * satyap was trying to use a paste web site |
| 10:47 | @caker | eanderson: that's a known bug, btw. I have an idea on how to fix it, at least |
| 10:48 | @caker | eanderson: control-a, then press d |
| 10:48 | @caker | eanderson: or, "ssh user@hostXX.linode.com shutdown" |
| 10:48 | @caker | satyap: yeah |
| 10:49 | eanderson | OK, I think it may be shutting down now. |
| 10:51 | eanderson | caker: thanks I seem to be running well now |
| 10:51 | satyap | email away |
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| 10:51 | satyap | probably a couple more things, that the script doens't get, would be useful |
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| 11:34 | @caker | satyap: like what? |
| 11:38 | satyap | umm |
| 11:38 | satyap | host name, hostxx.linode.com... or it already gets that |
| 11:38 | satyap | i guess that's about it, unless anyone can think of anything else |
| 11:39 | @caker | The way I have the bw stuff, the request for the XML must come from one of the Linode's IPs |
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| 11:39 | @caker | since there's no login authentication around it |
| 11:39 | EFudd | I start teaching on a vendor product in 1hour 21 minutes. |
| 11:39 | @caker | .. if I did this new stats script like that, linode status is moot |
| 11:39 | EFudd | I've never logged into one of their systems |
| 11:39 | EFudd | :) |
| 11:40 | satyap | hmm, ok |
| 11:40 | @caker | EFudd: I used to love doing shit like that :) |
| 11:40 | EFudd | wonder how well my BS generator will work today |
| 11:40 | EFudd | dude, check this: |
| 11:40 | EFudd | 4 power supplies.... |
| 11:40 | satyap | you have the bofh excuses list |
| 11:40 | satyap | right? |
| 11:40 | EFudd | bios remembers last known powered--state |
| 11:40 | EFudd | so if you plug in 1 power supply, it comes on, goes "not enough supplies. shutting off.' |
| 11:41 | EFudd | you plug in the 2nd supply, it comes on, goes "not enough supplies. oh, last known state was off. " |
| 11:41 | EFudd | for the 3rd and 4th, it powers on, shuts itself off.... |
| 11:41 | EFudd | there's no power switch.... |
| 11:41 | EFudd | So how do you get it to power on? |
| 11:41 | EFudd | Well........... |
| 11:41 | EFudd | plug the 4 fucking male ends into the outlets.... |
| 11:41 | satyap | plug them all in at once like nuke silo keys? |
| 11:41 | @caker | "no power switch" ... |
| 11:41 | EFudd | plug the 4 female ends 1/4" into the recieving sockets not making metal contact |
| 11:41 | EFudd | .. and now i quote |
| 11:42 | EFudd | "with 2 hands, simultaneously plug in 2 of the power cords..." |
| 11:42 | satyap | nice |
| 11:42 | EFudd | "you have one second to move your hand and plug in a 3rd cord." |
| 11:42 | EFudd | "then plug in the 4th" |
| 11:42 | @caker | EFudd: what is this thing? |
| 11:42 | EFudd | when you do /that/ they all go "ah ha! enough supplies to poewr on!" |
| 11:42 | satyap | or get a cheapy strip and plug them into that, then flip the strip switch |
| 11:42 | EFudd | caker, can't say just yet. |
| 11:42 | EFudd | it's got a soft-power switch vs a hard one. |
| 11:42 | satyap | ... if the strip is allowed in the datacenter |
| 11:42 | EFudd | lets just say i was quite frustrated that i wasted 24hours trying to power the thing on. |
| 11:42 | @caker | EFudd: just a general computer, or something more? |
| 11:43 | EFudd | and my response to the vendor was "Wow." when he gave me the work-around. |
| 11:43 | EFudd | something more. storage stuffz. |
| 11:43 | EFudd | company is running closed-lip, so nda heavily applies currently |
| 11:43 | @caker | so the PSUs don't provide any redundancy if it needs all four, eh? |
| 11:43 | EFudd | it needs 2+1 |
| 11:43 | EFudd | so it has redundancy |
| 11:43 | EFudd | but... |
| 11:43 | EFudd | if i plug in 2 at the same time |
| 11:43 | EFudd | it doesn't power on cause the 3rd is needed |
| 11:43 | EFudd | so in theory you need at least 3 arms, preferrably 4 to power the system on. |
| 11:44 | @caker | but it powers off if the spare, and the backup spare go down |
| 11:44 | EFudd | gets even better if you say, have, 3 phase power and are doing maintenance on phases. :) |
| 11:44 | EFudd | Right. |
| 11:44 | EFudd | :) |
| 11:44 | @caker | that's freaking stupid |
| 11:44 | EFudd | "engineering is aware of this and is working to correct it." |
| 11:44 | EFudd | their higher end models appear to have a real power switch....... |
| 11:45 | EFudd | anyway, off to the office to add in the last few changes to these powerpoitns before pretending to present. |
| 11:45 | @caker | EFudd: have fun |
| 11:55 | npmr | hey caker |
| 11:55 | npmr | what's the highest current host uptime? |
| 11:57 | @caker | npmr: lemme check |
| 11:58 | @caker | host7 and host8 are running on 362 days |
| 11:58 | @caker | host9, 16, 17, 18 are 316 |
| 11:59 | @caker | a few in the 280 range, a few in the 150-200 range |
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| 12:03 | tjfontaine | are we going to throw a bday party for the host 7 and 9? |
| 12:03 | @caker | npmr: http://www.theshore.net/~caker/uml/host_uptimes.txt |
| 12:03 | tjfontaine | 7 and 8 that is |
| 12:08 | @mikegrb | tjfontaine: sure, come to pcola |
| 12:11 | satyap | my webalizer stats rock my socks |
| 12:11 | tjfontaine | mikegrb: w00t |
| 12:11 | bendy24 | :O |
| 12:11 | satyap | lots of things rock my socks |
| 12:11 | @caker | Tenacious D rocks my socks |
| 12:11 | bendy24 | satyap: bash does it for me |
| 12:12 | tjfontaine | caker: they so do! |
| 12:12 | tjfontaine | caker: trainwreck is hilarious too |
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| 12:13 | @caker | everyone is rock-em-sock-em robots |
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| 12:13 | scanline | hmm.. about 3 hours ago my linode (micahjd) got its io_tokens pretty much completely emptied and its token_max set to 40000. I can't figure out why |
| 12:14 | scanline | the server wasn't swapping or anything until after the IO tokens were squished |
| 12:14 | @caker | scanline: reduced tokens won't cause swapping |
| 12:14 | scanline | caker: reduce tokens cause my server to run really slow which causes requests to pile up |
| 12:15 | scanline | so not swapping, sorry, but it's definitely not feeling well |
| 12:15 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status-6h.gif |
| 12:15 | @caker | scanline: did you hit zero/negative tokens, cuase right now: io_tokens=146193 |
| 12:15 | scanline | I stopped my server to let the tokens refill- it looks like shortly afterwards my token_max was set back to 400000 |
| 12:15 | satyap | interesting graph, got a script to share? |
| 12:15 | @caker | scanline: lemme refill it for ya |
| 12:16 | scanline | satyap: it's just a slightly hacked version of the disgustingly unmaintainable "hotsanic" package |
| 12:16 | scanline | caker: thanks. I'm still confused about why this happened at all though. I can't find a corresponding disk I/O spike, so it looks like the tokens were emptied externally somehow |
| 12:16 | | * bendy24 hides |
| 12:17 | satyap | ok |
| 12:17 | bendy24 | satyap: mrtg could probably generate that |
| 12:17 | tjfontaine | rrdtool |
| 12:17 | bendy24 | ja or rrdtool |
| 12:18 | scanline | hotsanic is a steaming pile of perl scripts that collects this data, it's still using rrdtool to store and render it |
| 12:18 | npmr | steaming pile.... good one |
| 12:18 | satyap | hhe |
| 12:18 | | * satyap was going to write a script to grab /proc/whatever and store in a sqlite db or flat file |
| 12:18 | scanline | If anyone really wants my hotsanic setup, I have it tarred up- but be warned it's ugly |
| 12:18 | scanline | http://flapjack.navi.cx/~micah/flapjack-hotsanic.tar.bz2 |
| 12:19 | scanline | satyap: rrdtool is great for that |
| 12:19 | @caker | Mike and I have been looking at munin |
| 12:19 | tjfontaine | awe 'Mike and I' |
| 12:20 | | * linbot plays a tiny violin |
| 12:20 | satyap | :) |
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| 12:20 | satyap | aww? |
| 12:20 | satyap | awe? |
| 12:20 | @caker | mikegrb: drop and give me 20 |
| 12:20 | tjfontaine | like shock and awe |
| 12:20 | | * satyap wonders what triggers linbot |
| 12:20 | | * linbot licks satyap |
| 12:22 | @mikegrb | l |
| 12:22 | @mikegrb | k |
| 12:22 | satyap | heh |
| 12:24 | @mikegrb | done |
| 12:24 | tjfontaine | what? |
| 12:24 | @caker | mikegrb: employeesnack |
| 12:24 | tjfontaine | hah |
| 12:24 | @mikegrb | thanks caker :) |
| 12:26 | kvandivo | i'm using a hacked version of the watchtokens.pl script that showed up on the forums for monitoring load and tokens |
| 12:26 | adamg | afternoon all |
| 12:26 | @mikegrb | I'm using a trained monkey |
| 12:26 | kvandivo | not all of us can afford a trained monkey |
| 12:26 | @caker | adamg: hello Adam |
| 12:27 | tjfontaine | adam has landed |
| 12:27 | satyap | how high was he? |
| 12:29 | Beirdo | depends. was he in Amsterdam? |
| 12:35 | satyap | mmmm, jerky |
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| 12:54 | @caker | satyap: http://www.theshore.net/~caker/uml/example-info.xml |
| 12:56 | tjfontaine | neato burrito |
| 12:56 | @mikegrb | I just had dinner delivered |
| 12:56 | @mikegrb | the sexy delivery chick said I hope you are hungry |
| 12:56 | @mikegrb | s/dinner/lunch |
| 12:57 | schweeb | dinner? it's 1pm |
| 12:57 | schweeb | alright |
| 12:57 | @mikegrb | it's like three days worth of food |
| 12:57 | | * caker adds cpuConsumption |
| 12:57 | kvandivo | what's the delay on the bandwidth data? |
| 12:57 | @caker | kvandivo: none |
| 12:57 | @caker | kvandivo: updated every minute |
| 12:57 | kvandivo | is the webpage that fast? it hasn't seemed that responsive |
| 12:57 | tjfontaine | lunch == dinner |
| 12:57 | tjfontaine | then there is supper |
| 12:57 | schweeb | mikegrb: sexy delivery chick? pics plz |
| 12:58 | @mikegrb | k |
| 12:58 | @caker | kvandivo: the summary on the Overview page caches the query. Under My Account --> Network Traffic History, those aren't cached |
| 12:58 | kvandivo | ahh.. ok.. i see |
| 12:58 | @caker | kvandivo: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=776 |
| 12:58 | @mikegrb | schweeb: http://thegrebs.com/~michael/pictures/canon/canon-Pages/Image6.html |
| 12:58 | satyap | neat |
| 12:59 | @caker | satyap: any other stats you'd like? |
| 12:59 | kvandivo | io_tokens |
| 12:59 | @caker | kvandivo: those are local to your node |
| 12:59 | satyap | cacker, that is a good start |
| 12:59 | @caker | the database knows nothing of that stuff |
| 12:59 | @caker | kvandivo: also -- /proc/io_status |
| 13:00 | satyap | wait, that's the delivery chick? |
| 13:00 | | * satyap thinks that is mike |
| 13:00 | @mikegrb | that's the delivery chick |
| 13:00 | schweeb | mikegrb: silly grebby, that's your wife, not the delivery chick |
| 13:00 | @mikegrb | schweeb: she delivered it to me in the office! |
| 13:00 | Beirdo | and she's giving advertising :) |
| 13:01 | heidi | satyap: thanks a lot for the self esteem booster |
| 13:01 | satyap | d'oh |
| 13:02 | schweeb | heidi: I didnt' think it was mike |
| 13:02 | heidi | schweeb: thanks |
| 13:02 | kvandivo | caker: right.. i figured that bandwidth was local to a node, (like io_tokens) but apparently it's being stored elsewhere.. so be it |
| 13:02 | satyap | nice beach |
| 13:02 | satyap | whoa hold it stop the press |
| 13:02 | satyap | friggin' cooper river bridge?!??? |
| 13:03 | heidi | of course, for those who care, my boobs are twice as big now |
| 13:03 | heidi | that was pre-baby |
| 13:03 | | * kvandivo 's ears perk up. |
| 13:03 | heidi | i was like three months pregnant in that picture |
| 13:03 | | * Beirdo chuckles |
| 13:04 | heidi | 34b-->34dd |
| 13:04 | satyap | didn't need to know any of that :) |
| 13:04 | tjfontaine | yes you did |
| 13:04 | tjfontaine | you so did |
| 13:04 | heidi | heh |
| 13:04 | satyap | heh |
| 13:04 | @mikegrb | satyap: the beach == sulivan's island |
| 13:05 | satyap | anyway, you guys are here? |
| 13:05 | | * satyap is scared now |
| 13:05 | @mikegrb | nah |
| 13:05 | @mikegrb | pensacola now |
| 13:05 | satyap | ah, k |
| 13:05 | @mikegrb | the beach is even nicer ;) |
| 13:05 | satyap | caker: http://www.theshore.net/~caker/uml/example-info.xml is fine, but how do i get it for my linode? |
| 13:06 | @caker | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1558 |
| 13:06 | tjfontaine | access via a webber site |
| 13:06 | @caker | cpuConsumption is going to cause confusion .. mark my words |
| 13:07 | tjfontaine | marked |
| 13:07 | | * mikegrb hilights caker's words |
| 13:07 | @mikegrb | damnit tj, you moved his words! |
| 13:07 | @mikegrb | now I have to get windex and remark them |
| 13:07 | tjfontaine | ha ha putty pwned you |
| 13:07 | @mikegrb | nah |
| 13:07 | @mikegrb | gnome-terminal, bish |
| 13:07 | tjfontaine | heh |
| 13:07 | tjfontaine | gnome-terminal + screen + irssi always ends up going BSOD on me |
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| 13:08 | @caker | <linData><result><error>DENIED</error></result></linData> |
| 13:08 | @mikegrb | tjfontaine: PEBKAC |
| 13:08 | tjfontaine | mikegrb: it so is. |
| 13:08 | @mikegrb | I know. |
| 13:11 | bendy24 | sucky sucky |
| 13:11 | linbot | New news from forums: HTTP-Retrievable Linode Stats (in XML) in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1558>; |
| 13:11 | satyap | wheeeee! |
| 13:11 | bendy24 | linbot: sucky sucky |
| 13:11 | bendy24 | bah |
| 13:12 | | * linbot dispenses coffee |
| 13:12 | tjfontaine | mmm |
| 13:13 | satyap | bah i need to fix my webserver tree |
| 13:13 | satyap | it is brizzoken |
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| 13:14 | bendy24 | satyap: mambo! |
| 13:14 | Redgore | I gotta do some web coding |
| 13:14 | Redgore | expand the capabilities of my free hosting service's site (running on my linode :) ) |
| 13:15 | tjfontaine | coding! |
| 13:16 | satyap | mambo! |
| 13:16 | satyap | mambo? |
| 13:16 | satyap | hey, we're looking to hire a web biotch, mind if i post the url to the job ad here? |
| 13:16 | | * satyap waits for a yes/no from an admin |
| 13:16 | Redgore | satyap: you can PM the url :P |
| 13:17 | satyap | i could, but i'd rather just post once |
| 13:17 | @mikegrb | satyap: go ahead |
| 13:17 | satyap | thanks |
| 13:17 | bendy24 | satyap: http://www.mamboserver.com/ |
| 13:18 | satyap | http://jobs.perl.org/job/534 |
| 13:18 | satyap | there ya go :) |
| 13:18 | kvandivo | i'm out.. i only have my resume in word format |
| 13:18 | Redgore | oh well, cant apply |
| 13:18 | Redgore | Im not able to work in the states :( |
| 13:19 | bendy24 | Redgore: i told you not to rape mikegrb |
| 13:19 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 13:19 | Redgore | lol, plus no degree |
| 13:19 | bendy24 | but would you listen... |
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| 13:23 | amk | hiya. just signed up for linode 128 for a client's site we |
| 13:23 | amk | plan to host. wondering if the client can have their own login to manage the linode? |
| 13:23 | amk | one login/linode? |
| 13:25 | @mikegrb | yes, one login to the member's site per linode currently |
| 13:25 | amk | k |
| 13:25 | @mikegrb | you can add an ssh key for lish access which would allow shutdown/reboot/boot |
| 13:26 | amk | k |
| 13:27 | | * satyap thinks smart people should apply anyway |
| 13:28 | adamg | hmm *currently* could that mean a re-work of the lpm is coming |
| 13:28 | @mikegrb | not currently planned ;) |
| 13:28 | @mikegrb | we may plan to implement that in the future |
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| 13:29 | @mikegrb | would proably come with more then one linode per login as well |
| 13:29 | hypnetric | sup mike |
| 13:30 | satyap | http://itc.musc.edu/wiki/ITLabJobs there's that too, which is the same thing |
| 13:30 | hypnetric | will you have more 256 linodes available in a month? |
| 13:30 | hypnetric | theres only 3.. |
| 13:30 | hypnetric | i was just wondering if once they're "sold out", if you get more later |
| 13:31 | @mikegrb | yes, we get more ;) |
| 13:31 | hypnetric | oh ok |
| 13:31 | @mikegrb | currently waiting on a new cabinet |
| 13:31 | hypnetric | and do you do custom servers for an "extra" fee? |
| 13:31 | hypnetric | if not its cool |
| 13:31 | @mikegrb | custom? |
| 13:32 | @mikegrb | like > 256? |
| 13:32 | hypnetric | yeah |
| 13:32 | | * bendy24 has a 1024 |
| 13:32 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 13:32 | hypnetric | lol |
| 13:32 | @mikegrb | well via addons system that is there you can add more ram/bandwith/hd space |
| 13:32 | hypnetric | hm |
| 13:32 | hypnetric | i meant in cpu allotment |
| 13:32 | @mikegrb | ahh |
| 13:33 | @mikegrb | well. you do get full cpu when there are not 4 other linodes wanting cpu at the same moment |
| 13:33 | | guinea-sleep | where's the line where it's silly to have a linode that large because you'd pay more than if you had your own box? |
| 13:33 | hypnetric | ok, cool enough |
| 13:33 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 13:33 | hypnetric | lol |
| 13:34 | hypnetric | i dont care about my own box, if you mean like here |
| 13:34 | hypnetric | i just need the bandwidth speed |
| 13:34 | | guinea-sleep | i mean... just assuming here, but if you rented a whole linode, or colocated your own box... |
| 13:34 | hypnetric | oh |
| 13:34 | hypnetric | i've done colocation. |
| 13:35 | | guinea-sleep | *shrug* |
| 13:35 | hypnetric | quite honestly, i dont care. i'd much rather use a trusted company that actually knows what the hell they're doing with security |
| 13:35 | hypnetric | etc. |
| 13:35 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 13:35 | hypnetric | lol |
| 13:36 | amk | I have to say... the monitoring load, hd space, memory etc, and the job que... awesome! |
| 13:36 | hypnetric | :) |
| 13:36 | hypnetric | linode dot com |
| 13:37 | hypnetric | Making mike more rich one day at a time(R) |
| 13:37 | hypnetric | er |
| 13:37 | hypnetric | (C), whatever |
| 13:37 | hypnetric | heh |
| 13:37 | amk | good the product deserves it |
| 13:37 | amk | so far anyway =) |
| 13:37 | hypnetric | indeed |
| 13:37 | tierra | linode dot com: making chris rich since 2002 (?) |
| 13:37 | cout | lollipops from the bank.. I remember those |
| 13:39 | @mikegrb | tierra: ja |
| 13:39 | @mikegrb | hypnetric: I'm just a lowly employee, I only have two feraris |
| 13:39 | tierra | yeah, wasn't sure it was 2002, just a guess |
| 13:40 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 13:40 | hypnetric | lol |
| 13:41 | hypnetric | those are good cars... |
| 13:41 | hypnetric | i'd rather have a Z3 though |
| 13:41 | @mikegrb | mine's in the shop |
| 13:41 | hypnetric | you have a z3?! |
| 13:41 | schweeb | as in a BMW Z3? |
| 13:41 | hypnetric | yeah |
| 13:41 | | * satyap wantsto work for lindoe some day |
| 13:41 | heidi | hypnetric: no |
| 13:42 | heidi | hypnetric: he has a kia |
| 13:42 | satyap | just for the bmw |
| 13:42 | schweeb | Z3's are meh |
| 13:42 | schweeb | definitely rather have the ferrari |
| 13:42 | schweeb | or even an M series |
| 13:43 | @mikegrb | I have an L series, haven't worked up to the M yet |
| 13:43 | tjfontaine | I have a ZZZ series |
| 13:43 | tjfontaine | bishes |
| 13:44 | amk | nothing wrong with kia =) |
| 13:45 | hypnetric | Kia's actually one of the best, great cars, very reliable |
| 13:45 | hypnetric | the optimas esp. |
| 13:45 | Beirdo | Aieeee! |
| 13:46 | hypnetric | isnt that the sigfault on unrealircd |
| 13:46 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 13:46 | hypnetric | lol |
| 13:46 | hypnetric | aieee or whatever |
| 13:46 | hypnetric | gotta go back to work, lates |
| 13:46 | schweeb | I love it when the kernel says "Aieee!" |
| 13:49 | bendy24 | schweeb: does it give you that warm feeling inside? |
| 13:50 | schweeb | yes |
| 13:50 | Beirdo | yeah, it's like a Sportage commercial |
| 13:50 | Beirdo | welcome to the swamp |
| 13:50 | bendy24 | hypnetric: they dont make z3's any more |
| 13:51 | bendy24 | silly |
| 13:51 | bendy24 | meet the Z4: http://www.mindbender.ca/pics/actions/image_resized_view.php?imgid=Mjk=&nw=640&nh=480 |
| 13:52 | | * Beirdo looks up the license plate to get an address to go swipe it |
| 13:52 | bendy24 | Beirdo: please take the van behind it |
| 13:53 | Beirdo | heh |
| 13:53 | bendy24 | then i can go buy a sorento |
| 13:53 | schweeb | hrm |
| 13:53 | schweeb | I could buy a BMW if I get this new job! |
| 13:53 | bendy24 | schweeb: yes! |
| 13:53 | bendy24 | then pick us all up for a ride |
| 13:53 | schweeb | I'm so hyped, I want them to call me back right now |
| 13:54 | bendy24 | right now! |
| 13:54 | bendy24 | mikegrb: kia schmea |
| 13:54 | schweeb | you'd be hyped too, making as much money as I'll be making |
| 13:54 | tjfontaine | vw wubbya |
| 13:54 | bendy24 | schweeb: i make about .5 of that |
| 13:54 | bendy24 | :) |
| 13:55 | | guinea-sleep | huh... i haven't read the ToS in a *long* time.... |
| 13:55 | schweeb | bendy24: so does my dad, hah |
| 13:55 | tjfontaine | bathroom reading |
| 13:55 | tjfontaine | mmm |
| 13:55 | bendy24 | tjfontaine: you are so jealous of my car |
| 13:55 | | guinea-sleep | i just changed my spark plugs :D |
| 13:55 | | guinea-sleep | <-- in my sleep |
| 13:56 | | guinea-sleep | haha |
| 13:56 | bendy24 | heh |
| 13:56 | heidi | hypnetric: we have the optima |
| 13:56 | | guinea-sleep | but now i'm too tired and lazy, so i'll pay someone to change my oil. d'oh |
| 13:56 | bendy24 | guinea-sleep: my car doesnt even have spark plugs! |
| 13:56 | | guinea-sleep | bendy24: my truck doesn't even have a car! |
| 13:56 | bendy24 | liar |
| 13:56 | | * guinea-sleep looks around |
| 13:57 | | guinea-sleep | nuh uh! |
| 13:57 | | * guinea-sleep looks around |
| 14:01 | | * cout looks at guinea |
| 14:06 | | guinea-sleep | they found me! |
| 14:06 | | * guinea-sleep jumps in the motor oil |
| 14:08 | | * bendy24 lights a match |
| 14:09 | | * guinea-sleep jumps in the gasoline |
| 14:10 | bendy24 | bbq guinea pig! |
| 14:11 | | guinea-sleep | oh no, not here too |
| 14:11 | | guinea-sleep | why do i always get bbq'd in multiple channels? |
| 14:11 | bendy24 | that what happens when you jump into gas with an open flame |
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| 14:14 | amk | heh |
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| 14:23 | @mikegrb | eanderson: hello |
| 14:24 | eanderson | helo |
| 14:24 | satyap | welcome, ... mister anderson |
| 14:25 | Beirdo | elho |
| 14:25 | satyap | vrfy |
| 14:25 | eanderson | quick question. If I create another distro image can I mount the paritions on my other image? Basically I need to move some files around so my thought is to boot a unrelated OS. Mount the drives, move the files around as needed, and then boot my original OS. Doe this make sense? |
| 14:26 | | guinea-sleep | of course |
| 14:26 | @mikegrb | eanderson: yes, in the configuration profile you can point /dev/ubd[a-g] at the disk image of your choice |
| 14:26 | @mikegrb | click save, and reboot away |
| 14:26 | eanderson | ok. thanks. |
| 14:26 | | guinea-sleep | mikegrb: can any of that be done in lish? |
| 14:26 | @mikegrb | soon |
| 14:26 | | guinea-sleep | i mean the point and click parts, not the reboot, obviously :P |
| 14:27 | @mikegrb | well not the adding the disk image but lish addition will negate the reboot comepletely |
| 14:27 | @mikegrb | I will take under concideration your suggestion of assing images |
| 14:27 | | * satyap has 1 big 3 gig disk |
| 14:27 | | guinea-sleep | assing? |
| 14:27 | satyap | i should've started with a 1 gig disk |
| 14:28 | eanderson | I figured Debian small is only 80 MB so I can create it, boot it, move my files around, boot back to my Gentoo system with everything moved how I want then delete debian small. |
| 14:28 | @mikegrb | satyap: you can always resize down/up as needed |
| 14:28 | @mikegrb | satyap: without data loss |
| 14:28 | satyap | i have no free space, i suck |
| 14:28 | satyap | oh good, i figured that would be possible |
| 14:29 | satyap | i up-sized my windows partition yesterday, the saga is at http://www.thesatya.com/blog/ |
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| 14:29 | satyap | windows, not on linode :P |
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| 15:29 | hypnetric | bendy24, i don't like the bmw z4 |
| 15:29 | hypnetric | I think the z3 looks alot nicer. |
| 15:29 | hypnetric | but they're both nice/good |
| 15:30 | bendy24 | bah |
| 15:30 | hypnetric | if i got a z4, might as well will buy an audi |
| 15:30 | bendy24 | you would choose audi over a bmw? |
| 15:31 | hypnetric | hm |
| 15:31 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 15:31 | hypnetric | lol |
| 15:31 | hypnetric | not sure, but i'd have to say yeah |
| 15:31 | hypnetric | both make good cars, although bmw is a bunch of succeeded failures |
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| 15:33 | hypnetric | hm what the hell, cant run winamp anymore |
| 15:33 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 15:33 | hypnetric | crazy winholes IT guys working here lol |
| 15:33 | hypnetric | all they do is make our lives hell and play everquest, when we all know WoW > EQ |
| 15:34 | bendy24 | hypnetric: audi's are meh |
| 15:34 | bendy24 | i drive a vw btw... |
| 15:35 | hypnetric | do you like subarus |
| 15:35 | bendy24 | they just dont get chicks like bmws |
| 15:35 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 15:35 | hypnetric | lol |
| 15:35 | hypnetric | hm, thats annoying :P |
| 15:35 | bendy24 | yeah, the wrx ia nice |
| 15:35 | hypnetric | maybe a timer per person every hour |
| 15:36 | bendy24 | mikegrb: get rid of the damn lolz |
| 15:36 | hypnetric | esp. the blue painted ones |
| 15:36 | hypnetric | i remember when i wanted to buy the mazda rx-8 a year ago |
| 15:36 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 15:36 | hypnetric | lol |
| 15:36 | hypnetric | so glad i didn't make a stupid mistake like that |
| 15:37 | hypnetric | hm, guess i'll work on my linode from work. |
| 15:37 | hypnetric | bbl |
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| 15:44 | hypnetric | gotta love the customer web control panel :) |
| 15:44 | | guinea-sleep | the web is so 90's |
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| 15:49 | tjfontaine | no stop signs, speed limits |
| 15:50 | @mikegrb | lolz |
| 15:50 | Beirdo | lol |
| 15:51 | hypnetric | bah |
| 15:51 | hypnetric | debian has no pico |
| 15:51 | hypnetric | sux |
| 15:51 | hypnetric | I dont like using VI :/ |
| 15:51 | tjfontaine | pico/nano |
| 15:51 | Beirdo | pico? hehehe |
| 15:52 | tjfontaine | nano - free Pico clone with some new features |
| 15:52 | bendy24 | hypnetric: there is always emacs |
| 15:52 | hypnetric | nice |
| 15:52 | Beirdo | nano = continue to shudder |
| 15:53 | tjfontaine | vim |
| 15:53 | tjfontaine | mmm |
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