TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2005:02:06

---	Log	opened Sun Feb 06 00:00:43 2005
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08:08		brlinuxonmac \| I need to change my linode from 64 to 96
08:09		brlinuxonmac \| linode
08:10	Baka-ken	I need to get my Linode set up in the first place. @_@
08:20	Baka-ken	!seen caker
08:20	linbot	Baka-ken: caker was last seen here 2 days, 11 hours, 32 minutes, and 1 second ago saying: <caker> heidi: agreed
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09:54		LinuxSynergy \| !lstseen caker
09:54	ref_	!seen caker
09:54	linbot	ref_: caker was last seen here 2 days, 13 hours, 5 minutes, and 16 seconds ago saying: <caker> heidi: agreed
09:54		LinuxSynergy \| !lastoutch
09:54		LinuxSynergy \| oops
09:54		LinuxSynergy \| my fingers not woring this morning :)
09:55		LinuxSynergy \| I'm gonna have to get a Linus VM setup on the bix Z @ work soon LOL
09:55		LinuxSynergy \| Linux oops
09:56		LinuxSynergy \| I should just stop typing for now LOL
09:58	Baka-ken	How long should it take for a linode to be set up?
09:59		LinuxSynergy \| I dont know. I have been waiting since late thursday night....
09:59		LinuxSynergy \| I htnk he may have gone away for the weekend. (Just a hunch)
09:59	Baka-ken	I've only been waiting since yesterday
10:00	Baka-ken	Bah. Ah well, can't do anything about it.
10:02		LinuxSynergy \| We are starting to setup Linux VMs on an IBM mainframe. I cant wait to play with that. I wonder how it's going to preform....
10:03	Baka-ken	Don't look at me. This Linode's going to be a major learning experience for me ^^
10:03		LinuxSynergy \| Cool! I don't know much about VM stuff in general. I just need a "linode" for a backup mail server and a backup DNS server.
10:04		LinuxSynergy \| So your new to linx are you?
10:04		LinuxSynergy \| or just UML?
10:04	Baka-ken	Kinda, I guess.
10:04	Baka-ken	I've got a linux box here to use for work (course this term "Java under Unixes")
10:04	Baka-ken	But I don't exactly know a vast amount about linux, servers, or anything.
10:05		LinuxSynergy \| Cool. I find it fun because I can get in as deep as I want to with it
10:05		* Baka-ken nods
10:06	Baka-ken	It's going to be good for learning a bunch of things for me. Apache, SQL, PHP...
10:06	Baka-ken	And how to make do with 64mb of ram :)
10:07		LinuxSynergy \| The big thing about getting away with 64 MB of ram is not using X windows....
10:08		LinuxSynergy \| I am using X/Kde right now and I am up to 500MB or so...
10:08		LinuxSynergy \| But it will live with less than that
10:08	Baka-ken	500mb of RAM, you mean, using Kde?
10:08		LinuxSynergy \| Ya but if I had 256 it would still work ok
10:09	Baka-ken	I've got 256 in my linux box here
10:09	Baka-ken	And gnome worked fine when it was on 192 or something because the onboard video stole it.
10:10		LinuxSynergy \| I am no KDE expert though. I have done mostly console stuff untill about 6 months ago..
10:10		* Baka-ken shudders at console =)
10:11	Baka-ken	I use X if I can, so sshing into the linode to use the console is going to be interesting.
10:11		LinuxSynergy \| Your a programmer right?
10:11	Baka-ken	In training.
10:11	Baka-ken	I'm a student :)
10:12		LinuxSynergy \| You should have no prolblem. Just need to pick up a few comands and away you go...
10:13		LinuxSynergy \| There are many webpages on the net that have lots of good info...
10:14	Baka-ken	The forums on linode.com seem useful, too
10:14	Baka-ken	Lots of guides and things.
10:14	Baka-ken	Still haven't decided what distro to use on it yet, though I have someone urging me to use Debian "or I'm a fool".
10:15		LinuxSynergy \| Ya I saw some of that stuff. Seems there is lots of help here... Debian is the one I am goign to use.
10:15	Baka-ken	It's certainly small =)
10:15		LinuxSynergy \| Debian is one of the old old distros. It's well made. apt-get is your friend :)
10:15	Baka-ken	Heh.
10:15	Baka-ken	I'm using Ubuntu on my box here.
10:16		LinuxSynergy \| Yes it is but you can make it bigger. apt-get is what you use to install stuff
10:16		* Baka-ken nods.
10:16	Baka-ken	Yeah, I meant that it clearly didn't install a lot by default.
10:17		LinuxSynergy \| See if you know what you want you can find the package name and then use apt-get to install it. Then you dont have all the other junk that is in the other distros.... I like it that way. :)
10:18		* Baka-ken nods
10:18		LinuxSynergy \| apt-get is easy to use too and the other one is apt-cache ... you can use that to search for package names
10:19		LinuxSynergy \| Any way I must go....
10:19		LinuxSynergy \| time to get up and do stuff before it's lunch time eheh
10:19	Baka-ken	Heh.
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12:41	adamg	god I am never going to get used to putting sudo in front of commands
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12:45	mikegrb	!convert 8 eur to usd
12:45	linbot	mikegrb: 8.0 EUR = 10.288 USD
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14:24	adamg	...
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15:23	adamg	!dns
15:23	linbot	adamg: (dns <host\|ip>) -- Returns the ip of <host> or the reverse DNS hostname of <ip>.
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15:54	eric	hey all...
15:54	eric	my webserver is getting DoS'ed by two subnet ranges -- can anyone help me block these ip addresses?
16:02	adamg	mikegrb had the same issue earlier!
16:02	eric	were they all bezeqint.net ip addresses?
16:03	adamg	no idea
16:03	adamg	he used
16:03	adamg	iptables -A INPUT -s 82.80.252.0/24 -j DROP
16:03	eric	uh yeah
16:03	eric	thats whats ddosing me
16:03	adamg	change the range or ip to what you need it to be
16:03	adamg	that is if you have iptables installed
16:03	eric	i have the default centos dist
16:03	eric	i think i have iptab in stalled
16:03	adamg	try and see
16:04	eric	yeah im getting dos/ed by 82.80.252.0/24 and 212.25.72.0/24
16:04	adamg	yeah same as mikegrb, he had 4 ranges hitting him
16:04	eric	wtf...
16:04	mikegrb	lolz
16:04	eric	lol
16:04	mikegrb	lolz
16:04	eric	lol
16:04	eric	hrmm...
16:04	eric	:P
16:05	adamg	i just tend to use shorewall
16:06	alnr	any opinion on inetd vs standalone for running a low traffic proftpd server on debian?
16:06	adamg	dont run for to insecure
16:06	alnr	adamg: parse
16:07	alnr	you mean inetd?
16:07	adamg	proftpd
16:07	eric	adamg: do you know what 4 ranges are hitting him?
16:08	adamg	these Ithink
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 442M packets, 167G bytes)
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> 3750 180K DROP all -- any any 82.80.252.0/24 anywhere
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> 740 35456 DROP all -- any any 212.25.72.0/24 anywhere
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> 1484 81631 DROP all -- any any 195.49.141.0/24 anywhere
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> 3 144 DROP all -- any any 210.73.87.0/24 anywhere
16:08	adamg	[17:14] <mikegrb> 2 128 DROP all -- any any c-67-167-5-0.client.comcast.net/24 anywhere
16:08	alnr	adamg: not sure i understood, did you say dont run proftpd, cuz proftpd is too insecure?
16:08	adamg	yep
16:09	adamg	I dont like anyting that uses plain text for passwords
16:09	eric	thanks adam
16:09	alnr	hmm i could limit my ftp to tunneled ftp and just let other users use http
16:10	alnr	but i do need to ftp upload
16:10	eric	adamg: how do you get it to display those stats? (like how many bytes were dropped, etc)
16:10	adamg	sftp?
16:10	adamg	iptables -L INPUT -v
16:10	alnr	thats a client right?
16:10	alnr	that ssh's
16:13	alnr	anyway i must do server ftp for uploading, if only locked down and available over tunnel for myself. so, any opinion on using inetd which saves proftpd having to be running full time, or standalone which avoids inetd which i heard is exploitable
16:15	eric	thanks a lot -- i didnt even notice the 3rd ip range hitting me
16:16	eric	:D
16:19	adamg	np
16:20	adamg	tis why I like shorewall no need to remember iptables syntax
16:20	eric	yeah, i hate the iptables syntax
16:20	eric	but im using webmin to help me out a bit... :P
16:20	eric	hehe
16:20	eric	anyways im goin home -- ttyl boys
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16:29	heidi	adamg: not four ranges, like 12 or more
16:29	heidi	they just keep coming
16:29	adamg	ok four last time I heard
16:29	heidi	heh
16:29	adamg	at least they are leaving me alone, or not found me yet
16:29	heidi	heh
16:30	heidi	yeah
16:30	heidi	it sucks
16:30	adamg	one down, one to go
16:35	adamg	all done
16:37	adamg	would be good if caker could block those ranges at the inbound switch
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16:53	JonR	what's happened to caker...?
16:53	SupaDongzu	he dropped
16:53	SupaDongzu	someone slammed the door
16:53	JonR	...?
16:54	SupaDongzu	never baked a cake, have you?
16:54	JonR	no.
16:55	SupaDongzu	heh
16:55	SupaDongzu	it's got some similarities to managing a souffle
16:55	SupaDongzu	there's a period where it rises, and it's very delicate
16:55	JonR	I see.
16:55	JonR	freak.
16:55	SupaDongzu	any sudden changes in temperature or sudden movements cause it to collapse
16:55	SupaDongzu	I know.
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16:55	EFudd	I heard Supa was correct.
16:56	EFudd	SupaDoongzu++ # Kill of lamer.
16:56	SupaDongzu	doong?
16:56	SupaDongzu	what, what's wrong with JonR?
16:56	EFudd	I type odd.
17:01	cow	heidi: what ranges was he getting hit by?
17:01	cow	id like to add them to my firewall just in case the other 8 start hitting me
17:04	cow	it looks like they're bots just trying to find open proxies
17:04	cow	and phpbb exploits
17:17	adamg	so is everyone watching the superbowl then
17:18	mikegrb	cow: I think you have them all
17:19	mikegrb	lots of ips, but just those networks
17:19		* adamg goes back to setting up his beta testing nodes
17:20		* mikegrb beta's adamg's test
17:20	adamg	you can if you want abt 2 days
17:20	adamg	or when caker re-appears
17:21	mikegrb	heh
17:21	adamg	tis a waiting game
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17:25		* adamg waits for the drive images to re-size
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17:32		* mikegrb re-sizes adamg
17:32	adamg	to late!
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18:06	adamg	FFS
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23:46	gambler	is linode down? I can't get to my server or login to the admin interface...
23:47	gambler	nm...it just came up
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