TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2005:02:03

---	Log	opened Thu Feb 03 00:00:12 2005
---	Day	changed Thu Feb 03 2005
00:00	nyx_	gotta get me another64 tomorrow :P
00:00	@caker	woot
00:01	nyx_	very :)
00:02	nyx_	ill have o convince you to put it in the other DC for me :)
00:02	@caker	np
00:02	nyx_	wikki dances
00:05	nyx_	hows everything going anyways?
00:05	@caker	going good .. heading back to Nashville tomorrow
00:06	nyx_	nice :) bit of a break or work?
00:06	@caker	I came back to NJ for my father's surgery
00:07	nyx_	oh! everything good?
00:07	@caker	yup -- he's doing great
00:07	nyx_	thats awesome :)
00:07	nyx_	im just about to move house! start a new job, damn crazy
00:08	nyx_	with any luck tonight, ill get my funky code base finished so i can sleep :P
00:09	@caker	cool
00:09	nyx_	australia is a hole :P
00:09	@caker	nah -- why say that?
00:09	nyx_	coz i live here and we have shit internet :P
00:09	nyx_	thats all ;)
00:11	nyx_	yay, im writting a blog using the 2 most insecure applications known to the internet, PHP and IMAP ;)
00:11	nyx_	dont mind me ;) im quite crazy today :P
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03:15	adamg	morning all
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03:20	Humanoid	I just bought a new IP, and rebooted my machine, and now I can't access my linode using my old IP. I had my old IP configued statically using /etc/network/interfaces on debian.
03:21	Humanoid	Also, for some reason, my member page lists the new IP before my old IP.
03:23	Humanoid	Hmmm... now it's suddenly working. Did anybody change anything?
03:35	tierra\|h	probably just took a minute to reboot
03:36	tierra\|h	don't forget you can always use LISH if something like that happens again
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03:47	Humanoid	No, it has been a long time since it finished rebooting.
03:47	Humanoid	what is LISH?
03:48	Humanoid	Ah, I see, I just found it on the linode site.
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04:51	@linbot	New news from forums: Registering nameservers - nice interface? in Linux Networking
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06:13	miguel	caker are you there ?
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09:42	@caker	morning
09:52	@caker	!kernel
09:52	@linbot	caker: The latest stable kernel is 2.6.10; the latest snapshot of the stable kernel is unknown; the latest beta kernel is 2.6.11-rc2-mm2.
09:55	jasonf	!no is <reply> The latest no-sources can be found at irc.freenode.net #no-sources
09:55	@linbot	Bugger all, I dunno.
09:55	jasonf	linbot, no is <reply> The latest no-sources can be found at irc.freenode.net #no-sources
09:55	@linbot	Dunno.
10:01	adamg	afternoon caker
10:01	@caker	hello
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10:08	adamg	still trying to work out the best to implement a vpn
10:13	adamg	think i am going to go for a central hub, with the machines making connections to that
10:18	adamg	right then, time to go for a swim
10:20	npmr	adamg, what kind of tunnelling are you looking at?
10:27	tjfontaine	jasonf: you can't define no as no is crucial for infobot learning... <bot> no bar is foo
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11:13		* mikegrb learns tjfontaine
11:16	Redgore	mikegrb: that'll be quick :P
11:16	mikegrb	:D
11:17	optikal	heh
11:19	tjfontaine	o0
11:19	tjfontaine	thats not nice
11:20	tjfontaine	Redgore: think of everything i've done for you
11:20	Redgore	tjfontaine: im playing with ya
11:20	tjfontaine	I don't mind :)
11:20	mikegrb	OH, can I play with tj too?
11:20	tjfontaine	no!
11:20	Redgore	sure there is enough of tj to go around
11:21	tjfontaine	tj go's around enough as is
11:21	tjfontaine	erm
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11:26	bendy24	tjfontaine!
11:27	bendy24	you said i was the only one!
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11:29	tjfontaine	I say that to all of the important ones
11:29	mikegrb	:O
11:29	mikegrb	You don't say that to me!
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11:34	adamg	damm laptop battery dying
11:35	tjfontaine	poor adamg
11:35	adamg	yeah poor me
11:35	mikegrb	poor adamg
11:36	adamg	well at least now i am relaxed and refreshed and can get on with work
11:36	adamg	npmr: x machines all over the place which need to talk to each other securly
11:38	npmr	adamg, what kind of tunnel?
11:38	npmr	ipsec, pptp, cipe,....?
11:38	adamg	was looking at openvpn
11:38	bendy24	hethen!
11:39	mikegrb	bendy24: <3
11:39	mikegrb	adamg: openvpn++
11:39	bendy24	bah
11:39	bendy24	openswan you f00
11:39	tjfontaine	bendy24: not like we have another choice right now
11:39	bendy24	:/
11:39	tjfontaine	26sec hasn't worked out so hot for us
11:39	adamg	this is what you get for using hpux
11:39	bendy24	im working on that
11:39	tjfontaine	adamg: heh
11:40	adamg	tid true
11:40	npmr	26sec?
11:40	adamg	s/tid/tis
11:40	bendy24	ipsec for 2.6 kernels
11:40	npmr	i see
11:40	bendy24	very.... different
11:41	bendy24	tjfontaine: we should rather say 26sec+shorewall
11:41	tjfontaine	yes
11:41	npmr	oic
11:41	npmr	so 26sec itself is fine
11:41	adamg	ill stick with openvpn and shorewall
11:42	tjfontaine	yes, its the routing that becomes an issue
11:43	bendy24	it lacks policy match support
11:43	bendy24	tjfontaine: good news is that i think its down to a single patch now
11:43	bendy24	2.6.10 has most of the ipsec stuff fixed
11:44	bendy24	i'll verify this aft
11:44	bendy24	tjfontaine: then you can give caker sexual favors so we can get this patch included
11:48	tjfontaine	heh, we'll see
11:48	tjfontaine	its just getting that one patch added then, after that we patch iproute and iptables?
11:51	bendy24	no, iptables is updated in debian unstable
11:51	@linbot	... but iptables is a simple command line tool for manually adding and removing netfilter rules in the kernel, bendy24 ...
11:51	tjfontaine	k
11:51	mikegrb	linbot: botsnack
11:51	@linbot	thanks mikegrb :)
11:55	tizen	linbot rr
11:55	adamg	sighup rr
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11:55	tizen	sighup rr
11:55	@sighup	tizen spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
11:55	tizen	thanks adam
11:55	adamg	sighup rr
11:55	@sighup	adamg spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
11:55	tizen	i'd never won before
11:55	mikegrb	lolz
11:55	tizen	lol
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13:03	adamg	hmm
13:07	tizen	with the last 2 nights of blackjack at the casino
13:07	tizen	i should be safe again
13:07	tizen	lets see
13:07	tizen	sighup rr
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13:07	tizen	... :(
13:07	tizen	maybe i shouldn't go gambling again..
13:08		* adamg might head down the casino later, if there is nothing else to do
13:10	tizen	excessive blackjack the last 2 night
13:10	tizen	s
13:10	tizen	been winning
13:10	tizen	but it's taken a toll
13:10	tizen	a lot of rum
13:10	mikegrb	lolz
13:10	tizen	lol
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13:16	mikegrb	lolz
13:16	tsi	lolzz
13:16	tsi	dang it's not recursive
13:16	tizen	hah, that could be hilarious
13:16	tsi	i went to the bank and was rewarded with alollipop
13:17	tsi	it only matches on beginnings of words
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13:17		* tsi scientific method expert!
13:22	tizen	l ol
13:22	tizen	haha
13:22	mikegrb	lolz
13:22	tizen	lols
13:26	tizen	hmmm
13:26	tizen	if lol works... i wonder if lol backwards will too :P
13:27	npmr	^(lol\|rofl)
13:28	mikegrb	npmr: have a coolie
13:28	mikegrb	er
13:28	mikegrb	cookie
13:28	npmr	you should have said "have a lollipop"
13:29	mikegrb	:D
14:12	npmr	!currency
14:12	@linbot	npmr: (currency <command> [<args> ...]) -- Command dispatcher for the Currency plugin. Use 'list Currency' to see the commands provided by this plugin. Use 'config list plugins.Currency' to see the configuration values for this plugin. In most cases this dispatcher command is unnecessary; in cases where more than one plugin defines a given command, use this command to tell the bot which plugin's command to use.
14:12	npmr	!currency change 1 usd to zar
14:12	@linbot	npmr: (currency <command> [<args> ...]) -- Command dispatcher for the Currency plugin. Use 'list Currency' to see the commands provided by this plugin. Use 'config list plugins.Currency' to see the configuration values for this plugin. In most cases this dispatcher command is unnecessary; in cases where more than one plugin defines a given command, use this command to tell the bot which plugin's command to use.
14:12	npmr	!list currency
14:12	@linbot	npmr: convert, xe, and yahoo
14:12	Redgore	!currency xe 1 USD to ZAR
14:12	@linbot	Redgore: 1.00 USD = 6.1312 ZAR
14:13	Redgore	thats the command you want
14:14	npmr	indeed
14:14	mikegrb	or
14:14	mikegrb	!currency convert 1 USD to ZAR
14:14	@linbot	mikegrb: 1.0 USD = 6.13 ZAR
14:14	Redgore	or !xe 1 USD to ZAR
14:15	tizen	!currency xe 19.95 USD to CDN
14:15	@linbot	tizen: 19.95 USD = 24.7932615 CAD
14:15	tjfontaine	fake moeny
14:15	tizen	?
14:15	npmr	!convert 95 USD to ZAR
14:15	@linbot	npmr: 95.0 USD = 582.35 ZAR
14:15	tizen	!list currency
14:15	@linbot	tizen: convert, xe, and yahoo
14:15	tjfontaine	CDN is fake
14:15	mikegrb	tjfontaine: not anymore, now usd is fake
14:15	tizen	tjfontaine: Oh yeah... That's why it's worth more and more every day
14:16	tizen	Besides web design and stuff, I'm in the fishing industry
14:16	tizen	and due to the American dollar being worth less, we're making a lot less
14:16	tizen	due to exporting
14:16	tjfontaine	cdn will always be fake because of bendy
14:17	mikegrb	tizen: #bassmasters :D
14:17	bendy24	bish
14:17	tizen	mikegrb: Nah, commercial fishing :)
14:17	tizen	Lobster/Crab/Haddock/Tuna/etc
14:17	mikegrb	tizen: ahh, well those are canadian fishing people
14:17	tizen	oh, cool
14:18	tizen	It's an interesting mix
14:18	mikegrb	tizen: it gets up to about 15 or 20 people in the evenings, empty during the day
14:18	tizen	i'll tell you that
14:18	mikegrb	heh
14:18	tizen	Commercial Fishing and tough work on the ocean
14:18	tizen	and linux and mailservers on days off
14:18	tizen	and when i'm at university
14:18	mikegrb	lolz
14:18	tizen	lol
14:21	npmr	pacific or atlantic?
14:22	tizen	Atlantic
14:22	tizen	Nova Scotia
14:22	tizen	Georges' Bank
14:27	@linbot	New news from forums: Package Mirrors in General Discussion
14:29	tizen	do we really need a local mirror?
14:29	tizen	I mean I get like 1800 kb/s from debian
14:29	tizen	its not like i need my .debs faster
14:30	tjfontaine	APT-PROXY ROX
14:30	tjfontaine	only w/o caps
14:31	adamg	it has been discussed time and time again
14:31	adamg	people always come up to the point, in that it is not worth it
14:31	adamg	it is also pointless mirroring things like the whole of apt, as about 50% of the packages will never be used on a linode, using something like apt-proxy is a better idea
14:32	tjfontaine	hell ya
14:33	adamg	for debian you also have 3 branches to mirror, as linode users, use all three the unstable tree changes daily the amount of bw that is going to be used in keeping upto date with the changes also make it pointless
14:34	npmr	this should be in the faq
14:34	adamg	what should
14:35	npmr	Q: Will Linode ever host a local mirror of distro archives?
14:35	npmr	A: No, because blah blah blah
14:36	bendy24	npmr: stable would be nice
14:36	bendy24	:)
14:36	npmr	A: No, because blah blah blah
14:36	adamg	bendy24 no it wouldnt
14:37	adamg	someone who is good at the wiki, could add it there
14:39	npmr	someone who is really good at the wiki could use it to mirror the debian archive
14:39	tjfontaine	hahah
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15:08		* caker lurks from the airport
15:08	tjfontaine	hola caker
15:08	bendy24	caker!
15:08	adamg	how long till the flight?
15:08	bendy24	tjfontaine: shhh hes here
15:09	@caker	boarding in 15 minutes
15:10	adamg	long flight?
15:10	@linbot	This is your captain speaking
15:10	@caker	2:20 long
15:10	adamg	not to bad then
15:10	@caker	weird that coming east it's only 1:45
15:10	@caker	jet stream, I suppose
15:10	adamg	yeah wind with you
15:10	adamg	possibly a different route
15:11		* caker needs his pilot license
15:11		* bendy24 too
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15:18	@caker	time to fly -- cya
15:18	adamg	enjoy
15:19		* linbot boards mikegrb
15:21	tjfontaine	o0
15:42	bendy24	mikegrb: enjoy linbot
15:42	@linbot	I don't know!
15:44	mikegrb	:D
15:45	mikegrb	tjfontaine: http://thegrebs.com/~heidi/sshot.png <-- heidi writes c#
15:45	tjfontaine	https://www.quickbase.com/db/85vqhz4a?a=q&qid=5
15:45	mikegrb	bendy24: if zach was as cute as hunter, he'd be in a computer program too :p
15:45	tjfontaine	awesome app heidi
15:47	bendy24	mikegrb: hunter is in a program?
15:47	mikegrb	bendy24: ja
15:48	bendy24	mikegrb: i dont believe you
15:48	mikegrb	tjfontaine: she even googled for c# date calculations to figure out the methods to use
15:48	mikegrb	bendy24: see the screen shot
15:48	bendy24	i saw
15:49	bendy24	mikegrb: i have picks of zach online as well
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15:50	tjfontaine	nice
15:50	mikegrb	bendy24: but do they tell you how old he is?
15:50	tjfontaine	heidi rawks
15:50	mikegrb	ja
15:50	bendy24	mikegrb: no
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15:54		* adamg didnt reliase tjfontaine has re-joined the chan
15:55	mikegrb	adamg: ja, if he doesn't stay in here, he gets ban'ed from the network
15:55	tjfontaine	o0
15:56	adamg	right then im off to the casino
15:58	tjfontaine	enjoy
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18:44		* caker lands
18:45	@caker	and boy are my arms tired
18:45	@caker	sighup: rimshot
18:45	@sighup	bada-boom!
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19:14		* adamg returns
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20:48	heidi	welcome back caker, glad your plane didn't crash
20:48	@caker	heidi: agreed
20:49	jasonf	I'm going to be flying to San Diego on Tuesday.
20:49	jasonf	nobody is allowed to talk about planes crashing
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20:52	tjfontaine	umm the SKY IS FALLING
20:52	tjfontaine	better topic? si o no?
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21:17	mikegrb	tjfontaine: ja
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