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| 02:45 | kmiller | hai all |
| 02:45 | kmiller | im new to virtual dedicating hosting, would someone mind answering a few questions? |
| 02:46 | tierra|h | fire away |
| 02:49 | kmiller | so how does it work exactly, i just find apache php, etc and install them as if i were setting up a webserver? |
| 02:49 | kmiller | is it like my own box? |
| 02:53 | @caker | kmiller: exactly |
| 02:56 | kmiller | niiiiiice |
| 02:56 | kmiller | and i have shell access and ftp access? |
| 02:56 | @caker | ssh and scp access at first, you can setup ftp or whatever aferwords |
| 02:56 | kmiller | nice |
| 02:57 | kmiller | so then whats the best way to set up multiple dowmains? |
| 02:57 | kmiller | set up a server or drive for each? |
| 02:57 | @caker | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/ |
| 02:59 | kmiller | well yeah |
| 02:59 | kmiller | i was just wondering if i could set up sepaerate instances of php per... wait nm, im being stoopid |
| 02:59 | kmiller | haha thanks |
| 03:00 | @caker | installing webmin might give you a head start |
| 03:00 | kmiller | so do i have to set up my own dns server on this space? or is there one i can use? |
| 03:01 | @caker | You have to either use your own, or use your domain name registrar's managed dns service (most provide this for free now-a-days), or use a free managed dns service like zoneedit.com |
| 03:01 | @caker | Other Linode members also offer to run secondary slave zones for you |
| 03:05 | kmiller | nice |
| 03:05 | kmiller | :) |
| 03:11 | tierra|h | oops... didn't respond for a bit, so I got distracted with something... |
| 03:17 | adamg_work | caker do you ever sleep? |
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| 03:40 | linbot | New news from forums: oom-killer killing mysql compilation (gentoo) in General Discussion |
| 03:50 | adamg_work | change the compile flags, limit make to one cc processs |
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| 05:21 | jasonf | linbot: 60F in Celcius |
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| 05:42 | kmiller | anyone home? |
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| 05:46 | DigitalM | caker about? |
| 06:19 | adamg_work | he was |
| 06:19 | adamg_work | looks like he was on here late, so will probably not be around for a while |
| 06:27 | DigitalM | okay, ill hang about |
| 06:41 | adamg_work | anything, other people can help you with |
| 06:45 | DigitalM | no, its about purchasing an upgrade |
| 06:45 | DigitalM | thanks anyway |
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| 11:08 | jenkin | Hey all :) |
| 11:08 | jenkin | Just wondering because I have a shared proc, if I do a uptime and someone else compiling something will that affect my load averages? |
| 11:09 | npmr | depends on how the processor is shared |
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| 11:09 | npmr | should i assume that you're asking about some specific method? |
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| 11:10 | jenkin | if someone on another vps is recompiling the kernel |
| 11:10 | jenkin | that will affect my load averages? |
| 11:10 | npmr | ok then, i'll assume you're asking about uml |
| 11:10 | npmr | in that case, no |
| 11:11 | jenkin | oki doke. |
| 11:11 | jenkin | is there a way that i can see whats sucking up my bw? |
| 11:12 | npmr | netstat |
| 11:12 | npmr | tcpdump |
| 11:12 | npmr | iptraf |
| 11:12 | npmr | read your logs |
| 11:13 | jenkin | says that i've used 1.2gb |
| 11:13 | jenkin | but i havent downloaded anything that large |
| 11:14 | npmr | that's an average of 200MB per day since saturday |
| 11:14 | jenkin | exactly.. |
| 11:14 | jenkin | I havent downloaded 200mb p/day |
| 11:14 | npmr | ingress or egress? |
| 11:14 | jenkin | idle SSH sessions don't suckup that much |
| 11:15 | npmr | does any email go through your system? |
| 11:15 | npmr | 200MB of spam per day is not out of the question |
| 11:15 | jenkin | no spam |
| 11:15 | jenkin | no |
| 11:16 | npmr | so, is that 1.2GB mostly ingress or egress? |
| 11:17 | jenkin | mostly download |
| 11:17 | npmr | what does 'netstat -tun' tell you? |
| 11:19 | jenkin | root@away:~# netstat -tun |
| 11:19 | jenkin | Active Internet connections (w/o servers) |
| 11:19 | jenkin | Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State |
| 11:19 | jenkin | tcp 0 0 70.85.16.169:1324 61.6.39.100:6667 ESTABLISHED |
| 11:19 | jenkin | tcp 0 0 70.85.16.169:1316 195.204.1.132:6667 ESTABLISHED |
| 11:19 | jenkin | tcp 0 0 70.85.16.169:2137 60.229.216.11:32640 ESTABLISHED |
| 11:19 | jenkin | tcp 0 0 70.85.16.169:1505 202.43.207.77:25 ESTABLISHED |
| 11:19 | jenkin | tcp 0 0 70.85.16.169:2137 60.229.216.11:32627 ESTABLISHED |
| 11:19 | jenkin | tcp 52 0 70.85.16.169:22 60.229.216.11:33290 ESTABLISHED |
| 11:19 | jenkin | root@away:~# |
| 11:19 | jenkin | just email and bnc |
| 11:20 | jenkin | I'm running php scripts which connect to ftp/sshd/mail/httpd every 5 minutes to check if the services are online |
| 11:20 | jenkin | but i doubt that'd be sucking up bw |
| 11:20 | jenkin | its only connecting locally |
| 11:20 | npmr | that wouldn't show up in your lpm stats, then |
| 11:20 | jenkin | yuh |
| 11:20 | jenkin | it must be something |
| 11:20 | jenkin | i need to find out what |
| 11:20 | jenkin | :| |
| 11:20 | npmr | local traffic never goes past the bean counting scripts |
| 11:21 | jenkin | need to get to the bottom of it |
| 11:21 | npmr | what does 'tcpdump -pni eth0 not host 60.229.216.11' tell you? |
| 11:22 | jenkin | just shows my connection to SSH and the bnc conn to undernet |
| 11:23 | jenkin | wtf |
| 11:23 | jenkin | 11:23:13.687530 70.85.16.169.1514 > 202.43.207.69.25: P 98:1332(1234) ack 228 win 5840 <nop,nop,timestamp 34889376 704735397> (DF) |
| 11:23 | jenkin | that 202.43.207.69 > yahoo address |
| 11:23 | jenkin | [DNS] Canonical: mta106.mail.krn.yahoo.com Numerical: 202.43.207.69 |
| 11:24 | npmr | ok, that's just outgoing email |
| 11:24 | npmr | keep watching |
| 11:24 | jenkin | But im not sending anything |
| 11:24 | npmr | see if anything goes by that shouldn't |
| 11:24 | jenkin | I hope i didn't setup smtpd to be an open relay |
| 11:24 | npmr | whoops |
| 11:25 | jenkin | there's so much traffic going to that host dude |
| 11:25 | npmr | http://www.abuse.net/relay.html <-- jenkin |
| 11:26 | jenkin | Hmmn, at first glance, host appeared to accept a message for relay. |
| 11:26 | npmr | http://www.ordb.org/submit/ <-- also quite good, i've used them in the past |
| 11:26 | jenkin | how do i setup the relay to be secure? |
| 11:26 | jenkin | I didnt touch smtpd |
| 11:27 | jenkin | it was already made on the debian install |
| 11:28 | jenkin | dude there's like 4/5 different ips going thru smtp |
| 11:28 | npmr | 220 away.net.au ESMTP Exim 3.35 #1 Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:26:32 -0500 |
| 11:28 | npmr | HELO nate.movealong.org |
| 11:28 | npmr | 250 away.net.au Hello inkblot at goose.movealong.org [66.93.3.77] |
| 11:28 | npmr | VRFY inkblot@movealong.org |
| 11:28 | npmr | 252 <inkblot@movealong.org> contains a non-local domain |
| 11:29 | npmr | RCPT TO:<inkblot@movealong.org> |
| 11:29 | npmr | 503 No sender yet given |
| 11:29 | npmr | MAIL FROM:<cornfed@elemeno.net> |
| 11:29 | npmr | 250 <cornfed@elemeno.net> is syntactically correct |
| 11:29 | npmr | RCPT TO:<inkblot@movealong.org> |
| 11:29 | npmr | 250 <inkblot@movealong.org> verified |
| 11:29 | npmr | DATA |
| 11:29 | npmr | 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by itself |
| 11:29 | npmr | Subject: j00 bin spammin' |
| 11:29 | npmr | From: You or someone like you <cornfed@elemeno.net> |
| 11:29 | npmr | To: Hi ASL <inkblot@movealong.org> |
| 11:29 | npmr | Date: Now |
| 11:29 | npmr | ha ha ha |
| 11:29 | npmr | . |
| 11:29 | jenkin | Damn. |
| 11:29 | npmr | 250 OK id=1Cmwxo-0001OV-00 |
| 11:29 | npmr | QUIT |
| 11:29 | npmr | 221 away.net.au closing connection |
| 11:29 | npmr | you are relaying |
| 11:29 | npmr | i just got that message |
| 11:29 | jenkin | how do I fix it? |
| 11:29 | npmr | first, shut down your mta immediately |
| 11:30 | npmr | second, notify caker that you've discovered this problem |
| 11:30 | npmr | third, go over your config with a fine-toothed comb to figure out where you fucked up |
| 11:31 | jenkin | how do I stop smtp? |
| 11:31 | jenkin | there's no daemon showing |
| 11:31 | jenkin | and /etc/init.d/exim stop aint responding to close POP3 aswell |
| 11:32 | jenkin | that could be why my load overages with 40+ |
| 11:32 | jenkin | so much bloody traffic coming thru |
| 11:33 | npmr | 220 away.net.au ESMTP Exim 3.35 #1 Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:32:46 -0500 |
| 11:33 | npmr | QUIT |
| 11:33 | npmr | 221 away.net.au closing connection |
| 11:33 | npmr | ^-- your mta is still running |
| 11:33 | jenkin | yea how do I turn off smtp? |
| 11:33 | jenkin | there's no daemon to kill |
| 11:34 | npmr | what does 'netstat -tnap | grep LISTEN | grep :25' say? |
| 11:34 | jenkin | 'netstat -tnap | grep LISTEN | grep :25 |
| 11:35 | jenkin | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 160/inetd |
| 11:35 | npmr | oh, exim runs out of inetd |
| 11:35 | jenkin | must be in inetd.conf |
| 11:35 | npmr | how curious |
| 11:35 | npmr | /etc/init.d/inetd stop |
| 11:35 | jenkin | hashed them out |
| 11:35 | jenkin | and killall -HUP interd |
| 11:35 | jenkin | *inetd |
| 11:35 | npmr | sure |
| 11:35 | npmr | ok, now go notify caker |
| 11:35 | jenkin | root@away:~# telnet 0 25 |
| 11:35 | jenkin | Trying 0.0.0.0... |
| 11:35 | jenkin | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 11:36 | npmr | excellent |
| 11:36 | npmr | i just tried that, too |
| 11:37 | jenkin | # Domains we relay for; that is domains that aren't considered local but we |
| 11:37 | jenkin | # accept mail for them. |
| 11:37 | jenkin | relay_domains = * |
| 11:37 | jenkin | I think that could be the issue right there. |
| 11:37 | jenkin | what should I put in there? |
| 11:37 | jenkin | just put in my ISP? |
| 11:38 | jenkin | # The setting below allows your host to be used as a mail wrelay only by |
| 11:38 | jenkin | # localhost: it locks out the use of your host as a mail relay by any |
| 11:38 | jenkin | # other host. See the section of the manual entitled "Control of relaying" |
| 11:38 | jenkin | # for more info. |
| 11:38 | jenkin | host_accept_relay = * |
| 11:38 | jenkin | and that one aswell |
| 11:38 | linbot | New news from forums: Shorewall locks me out (even when stopped) NEWBIE ALERT in Linux Networking |
| 11:38 | jenkin | host_auth_accept_relay = * |
| 11:38 | jenkin | and that one |
| 11:38 | jenkin | wt |
| 11:38 | jenkin | wt |
| 11:38 | jenkin | wtf |
| 11:39 | jenkin | what should I change them to np? |
| 11:45 | shakr | relay_domains = |
| 11:45 | shakr | host_accept_relay = localhost |
| 11:46 | jenkin | but what if i want to use outlook express/ |
| 11:46 | jenkin | *? |
| 11:47 | shakr | you should set up some form of authentication for relaying |
| 11:47 | jenkin | shakr: try connect to away.net.au 25 and see if u can send an email without authentication now |
| 11:47 | shakr | preferably over ssl |
| 11:47 | jenkin | I just setup authentication |
| 11:47 | jenkin | see if it works without auth |
| 11:47 | shakr | just use one of the relay tests npmr linked |
| 11:48 | jenkin | they dont give me definitive answers |
| 11:52 | FesterCouples | | anyone know shorewall? |
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| 14:04 | adamg | people come and people go, but they never stay |
| 14:32 | tsi | clearly they need to apt-get install screen |
| 14:33 | tierra|w | I like xchat though |
| 14:34 | tierra|w | besides, no point in me being in here really unless I'm somewhat actively reading the channel |
| 14:34 | tsi | xsession, then |
| 14:35 | | * tierra|w cries because he developes on Windows boxes at work |
| 14:35 | tsi | +vnc |
| 14:35 | tierra|w | I have done that before |
| 14:35 | tierra|w | not sure why I stopped |
| 14:36 | tierra|w | maybe just wasn |
| 14:36 | tierra|w | wasn't entirely sure about the security of doing that |
| 14:37 | tierra|w | wow, I have a really bad habit of putting an 'e' on the end of 'develop' like developement, etc... not sure why my brain thinks there's supposed to be a 'e' there |
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| 15:26 | tierra|w | what are some of the gnu tools for working with newlines (windows vs unix) in files? I can't remember the names |
| 15:27 | adamg | dos2unix |
| 15:27 | adamg | unix2dos |
| 15:27 | adamg | those? |
| 15:27 | Newsome | dos2unix unix2dos |
| 15:28 | tierra|w | hmmm, I don't think those where the ones I was thinking about, but those might work |
| 15:29 | tierra|w | oh, I don't even have those installed... you wouldn't know what package they typically come with would you? |
| 15:31 | tierra|w | nvm... emerge dos2unix |
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| 15:56 | adamg | 2 out of 20 done |
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| 17:26 | linbot | New news from forums: Feature request: double the memory allowances in Feature Request/Bug Report |
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| 18:19 | | * adamg waits to see what people ask for next |
| 18:20 | FesterCouples | | Can I have a million dollars? |
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| 18:21 | FesterCouples | | linbot linode avail |
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| 19:13 | fo0bar | FYI, if you try to run that local kernel exploit on a 2.4-um kernel, it crashes the kernel :) |
| 19:13 | fo0bar | (thankfully it didn't take the host down) |
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| 19:20 | FesterCouples | | caker: ping |
| 19:20 | FesterCouples | | sighup seen caker |
| 19:20 | @sighup | caker was last seen on #linode 3 days, 7 hours, 6 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: no, ssh seems to do that if the host was under load and there were new ssh connections that never completed [1104858854] |
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| 19:44 | tim | hello |
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| 19:45 | tim | does the linode have it's own mail server? |
| 19:45 | tim | Doe's the linode have mysql and php installed? |
| 19:46 | Redgore | tim: depends on the distro installed |
| 19:46 | tim | which distro would you recommend |
| 19:46 | Redgore | have you used linux before ? |
| 19:47 | tim | I've been hosing with jumpline.com using there VDS technology |
| 19:47 | Redgore | debian is a nice all round distro |
| 19:48 | tim | would you say linodes solution is better than jumplines? |
| 19:48 | Redgore | having not used or without knowing much about jumpline I couldnt tell you |
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| 19:50 | tim | I'm running a site where people can set appointments and schedules and the server automatically emails the reminders to there email address. will the linode suit this kind of site? |
| 19:50 | Redgore | yep |
| 19:51 | tim | are you impressed with the linode |
| 19:51 | Redgore | very much so, the community is a great help |
| 19:52 | tim | server performance stable? |
| 19:52 | Redgore | yep, hardly any downtime |
| 19:52 | tim | can i ask what kind of site you host |
| 19:53 | Redgore | I provide hosting ATM |
| 19:54 | Redgore | and will be developing my main site |
| 19:55 | tim | Seems to be a resiliant and stable platform then |
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| 19:56 | tim | many thanks |
| 19:56 | Redgore | your welcome |
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| 22:12 | DJohn | is caker still alive? |
| 22:12 | DJohn | or did he die last week? |
| 22:14 | DJohn | my support ticket has been open for more than a week |
| 22:14 | DJohn | no response |
| 22:15 | DJohn | the reason i set up linode is because my last host never responded to support tickets |
| 22:15 | DJohn | now my first ticket hasn't been responded to |
| 22:16 | DJohn | in over a week |
| 22:18 | DJohn | anybody seen caker? |
| 22:24 | Newsome | I chatted with him very early this morning, so I think he's still alive (or a well-written script). |
| 22:26 | DJohn | is he on vacation or out of town? |
| 22:28 | Newsome | not that I know of |
| 22:30 | DJohn | i'm a little surprised. I had to submit a ticket to get a DirectAdmin license. I forgot to include my IP address. He responded in a few minutes. I replied with my IP address. That was over a week ago. I still haven't gotten a response. I don't set up my sites without the license. It's worse service than the phone company |
| 22:31 | DJohn | should have said "I don't want to set up..." |
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| 22:38 | linbot | New news from forums: No response to support tickets in Customer Testimonials |
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