TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#linode:2004:02:21

---	Log	opened Sat Feb 21 00:00:06 2004
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00:02		* chris watches as epic pisses off the people in #debian@freenode
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00:21		* Artifex waves to mikegrb, dmp, everyone else too
00:21	@mikegrb	howdy arti
00:21	Artifex	hiya
00:21	Artifex	im introducing my father to mythtv tomorrow
00:21	Artifex	:-D
00:21	@mikegrb	spiffyness
00:22	Artifex	and.. that dvr box i dug up that i mentioned last night or so?
00:22	@mikegrb	yeah
00:23	Artifex	well, i got bored, and cracked the case to fuck w/ it
00:23	@mikegrb	heh
00:23	Artifex	got ssh up on it now :-D
00:23	@mikegrb	sipffy!
00:24	Artifex	its... erm... a very strange device
00:26	@mikegrb	brb
00:26	@mikegrb	new kernel
00:32		* Artifex wanders off to get some work done
00:33	@mikegrb	heh
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00:34	@mikegrb	I think it is time for bed
00:34	@mikegrb	'night
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00:35	jotun	night, mikegrb
00:36	@mikegrb	danke
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03:39	schweeb	anyone here know anything about Cogent?
03:40	@inkblot	nope
03:42	schweeb	supposedly they offer 100Mbit fiber to the office for $1k/mo
03:42	schweeb	sounds enticing, to say the least
03:42	@inkblot	hmmm
03:42	shakr	cogent doesnt have a good reputation on WHT
03:42	schweeb	WHT?
03:43	shakr	webhostingtalk.com
03:44	schweeb	which part of the forum would ISPs be in/
03:44	schweeb	I suppose if they're unreliable, we could keep our T1 as backup
04:26		* schweeb pokes caker
04:27	schweeb	caker: any progress on 2.6.3?
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08:08	Tenkawa	yay
08:08	Tenkawa	spamkiller working :)
08:12	adamg	just to point out, that there is nothing wrong with cogent
08:13	adamg	they have a bad rep, bc people who use cogent for hosting oversell and thus it gives a bad impression
08:16	Tenkawa	who is cogent?
09:03		* chris yawns
09:24	adamg	Tenkawa: http://www.cogentco.com/
09:47		* chris yawns again
09:51	sinned	cogent sucks because their 100mbit fiber is useless when you don't actually see 100mbit speeds to the internet itself
09:51	sinned	it's not liek for every 100mbit line they install at a customer's, they have a 100mbit line peered with another backbone
10:00	adamg	that is true, but it is still better than a T1
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11:00	kAcid-Duc	anyone on the administrative side around?
11:04	adamg	sighup ping caker
11:04	sighup	caker: ping! ping! ping!
11:04	sighup	caker was last seen on #linode 1 days, 10 hours, 17 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: mcowger: you should be good to go back on host15 -- thanks for giving it a shot [1077256016]
11:04	adamg	er no
11:04	kAcid-Duc	well I just left him a MSG anyways
11:04	kAcid-Duc	I havne't used my linode for over 2 months
11:04	adamg	best way to contact him is via email
11:04	kAcid-Duc	I just wanna cancel it
11:05	kAcid-Duc	nor do I remember my password
11:05	kAcid-Duc	bleh
11:05	kAcid-Duc	don't they have a phone num. we can reach them at? maybe not chris but doesn't theplanet take some part of this?
11:05	kAcid-Duc	or this chris run the whole thing himself
11:06	kAcid-Duc	I'd like to get this done like now.. and know it's cancelled right away
11:06	adamg	theplanet is just a datacenter
11:06	adamg	there is a phone number on the site, on everypage, in the footer
11:06	kAcid-Duc	they do advertise linodes on their website
11:06	adamg	no they dont
11:06	kAcid-Duc	well surfing with lynx I didn't see that phone num.
11:07	adamg	all that is listed in the network plan
11:07	kAcid-Duc	oh
11:07	kAcid-Duc	nm
11:07	kAcid-Duc	I do
11:07	kAcid-Duc	here we go
11:07	adamg	Sales Inquires: (615) 293-3169
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12:12	adamg	hmm
12:17	Tenkawa	whats up
12:18	adamg	not much, thats the point
12:18	Tenkawa	yikes
12:19	Tenkawa	sounds bad
12:23	ElectricElf	adamg: Eep, is there something that's down?
12:41	adamg	just got loads to do and very little time and cant be bothered
12:42	ElectricElf	Ah
12:49	adamg	like of motavation
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14:09	Ciaran	Hmm.
14:09	Ciaran	There is a distinct lack of conversation here.
14:12	@inkblot	it happens
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14:26	adamg	hi tjfontaine
14:26	adamg	hi t
14:27	adamg	damm tab complete
14:27	@inkblot	so many t.* nicks
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16:08	john_	hey
16:09	john_	i see all these new UI's on websites.. with like, all pixelated text...
16:09	john_	"terminal" type text
16:09	john_	but its really cool
16:09	ElectricElf	john_: URL? :)
16:09	john_	that that small text
16:09	john_	ill show u
16:09		* ElectricElf is intrigued
16:09	john_	hold on
16:10	john_	www.designoflife.net/tutorials_ps_interface.php
16:10	john_	its at the top
16:10	john_	actually, its everywhere
16:10	ElectricElf	john_: You mean the "COPYRIGHT BY LIFE.DESIGNS 2003 - 04" text?
16:10	john_	yeah
16:10	ElectricElf	Ah, okay.
16:10	john_	all of that text
16:11	john_	what is it called?
16:11	ElectricElf	john_: I dunno what exact font they're using - there are a few that look like that.
16:11	ElectricElf	john_: Assuming you're using *nix, xfonts-terminus is probably the closest match. Bit small though.
16:11	john_	yeah
16:12	john_	no well
16:12	john_	for photoshop :)
16:12	ElectricElf	Heh :)
16:12	john_	can i run that in console ^^^
16:13	ElectricElf	Photoshop?
16:13	ElectricElf	In a text console?
16:13	ElectricElf	Uhhh
16:13		* Ciaran grins.
16:13	ElectricElf	:)
16:13	Ciaran	Hi all.
16:13	@inkblot	ha ha
16:13	@inkblot	sounds like dongs
16:13	john_	heh
16:14	john_	no
16:14	ElectricElf	john_: You know, most *nix workstations don't use a text console ;)
16:14	john_	i mean
16:14	john_	photoshop
16:14	john_	but is that xfonts thing usable in console
16:14	john_	im assuming no
16:14	john_	so, do u know the thing for photoshoop
16:14	john_	shop*
16:14	ElectricElf	john_: Terminus? I wouldn't know. Probably not natively, but there might be converters around.
16:14	ElectricElf	john_: Might just as well run X though and be done with it.
16:15	john_	ok
16:15	john_	well uhh
16:16	john_	how about PS :)
16:20	Ciaran	I just got a spam with a really cool subject line.
16:20	Ciaran	"guardia backside probity cookery phosphine randy danger guardia youthful alcott paranoid trundle docile lingerie alacrity elysian demurring teetotal deceive drag evanescent ineradicable delphinus demitted mould congo cartography handout chide avoidance conversation turnabout bookish harmonic bordeaux bp fiduciary dichondra"
16:21	Ciaran	...and, like, no-one would think that was a spam, would they? 'course not.
16:21	@inkblot	sighup, rr
16:21	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:21	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:21	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:21	@inkblot	sighup, rr
16:21	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:22	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:22	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:22	---	Channel: mode/#linode [+h sighup] by inkblot
16:22	@inkblot	sighup, rr
16:22	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:22	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:22	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:22	@inkblot	sighup, rr
16:22	@inkblot	oh
16:22	---	Channel: mode/#linode [-o inkblot] by inkblot
16:22	Ciaran	Huh.
16:22	inkblot	it was supposed to kick me
16:22	Ciaran	Heh. :D
16:22	inkblot	but halfops can't kick ops
16:23	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:23	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:23	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:23	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:23	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:23	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:23	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:23	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:23	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:23	---	!!!! sighup was kicked from #linode by sighup (click ... click ... BANG I'm dead)
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16:23	Ciaran	...uh?
16:23	inkblot	hmmmmmmmmmmmm
16:23	Ciaran	It kicked itself...
16:23	inkblot	it sure did
16:23	inkblot	backfire?
16:23		* inkblot shrugs
16:23	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:23	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:23	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:23	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	---	Channel: mode/#linode [+o inkblot] by ChanServ
16:24	---	Channel: mode/#linode [+h sighup] by inkblot
16:24	---	Channel: mode/#linode [-o inkblot] by inkblot
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	Ciaran	(good going with the halfop)
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:24	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:24	john_	har
16:24	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:24	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rrr
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	john_: what?
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	Ciaran	(this could get boring)
16:25	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:25	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Nyet, no can you take two turns! Is not fair!
16:25	inkblot	doot doot doooooooo
16:25	inkblot	doot doot doooooooo
16:25	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	Ciaran	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Ciaran spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	john_ spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	Nyet, no can you take two turns! Is not fair!
16:25	inkblot	sighup, rr
16:25	%sighup	inkblot spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun.
16:25	john_	sighup, rr
16:25	---	!!!! sighup was kicked from #linode by sighup (click ... click ... BANG I'm dead)
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16:25	john_	haha
16:25	inkblot	...
16:25	---	Channel: mode/#linode [+o inkblot] by ChanServ
16:25	@inkblot	looks like a buuuuuuug
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16:26	john_	yeah
16:26	john_	lol
16:26	john_	well uhh
16:26	Ciaran	inkblot: I don't think so. Notice it says "I'm dead", not "you're dead".
16:26	john_	anyone know the name of that font :)
16:26	john_	he was playing too
16:26	@inkblot	it's supposed to kick the person playing
16:26	@inkblot	that's what it used to do, anyway
16:27	Ciaran	john_: You might try http://www.1001fonts.com/fonts_overview.html?page=1&category_id=5 .
16:28	john_	thanks
16:28	john_	weee!
16:29	Ciaran	I found that on a Google search for "free pixelated truetype fonts", btw.
16:29	john_	heh
16:30	john_	can i put truetype in PS?
16:31	Ciaran	Well, you're running it on Windows, right?
16:31	Ciaran	TrrueType is Windows' native font type.
16:31	Ciaran	Well.
16:31	john_	FF Forward
16:31	john_	ok cool
16:31	Ciaran	It wasn't invented by Microsoft, but Windows supports it natively. :D
16:31	john_	:p
16:32	@inkblot	well, you sort of have to redefine "native" when you're talking about microsoft anyway
16:32	Ciaran	Put it this way: Times New Roman and Arial, among with virtually every other font on a Windows box, are TrueType fonts.
16:32	@inkblot	basically along those lines
16:32	Ciaran	s/among/along/
16:33	@inkblot	i mean, dos wasn't even invented by microsoft for christ's sake
16:33	Ciaran	Yeah, I know.
16:33	john_	do i put them in the PS directory or in the windows directory?
16:33	Ciaran	john_: Go to Control Panel, double-click the Fonts folder, and drag the fonts to the folder to install them.
16:34	Ciaran	After that, they'll be available in any program that lets you select fonts.
16:34	Ciaran	When I say drag the fonts, I mean drag the fonts you downloaded into the Fonts folder.
16:35	john_	okok
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16:53	john_	you dont get it, my school turns off copy+pasting... how can i get it to the fonts directory without copy+paste or ddrag+drp?
16:57	john_	winnt\fonts
17:02	Tenkawa	why the heck would anyone turn off copy/paste
17:02	Ciaran	Oh, it's a school thing.
17:02	Ciaran	Tenkawa: It's not copy/paste that's off - not in that manner. It's copying files to system directories and installing stuff.
17:02	Tenkawa	ahhh
17:03	adamg	a sensible thing to do
17:03	Ciaran	Right.
17:03	Ciaran	I'm not sure if Photoshop can use external fonts, but I expect it probably can. Any ideas?
17:06	adamg	doesnt look like it can
17:33	Tenkawa	hmm I need a new game
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18:11	john_	hi
18:11	john_	uhm...
18:11	dmp	urrr
18:11	john_	check out this: http://epicshells.mine.nu
18:11	john_	this out*
18:11	dmp	very good epic
18:12	john_	i set up the slices in PS, but how do i get htem to work
18:12	john_	ty
18:12	dmp	pity I cant read any of it because of your colour scheme
18:12	john_	you cant read that?
18:12	dmp	nope
18:12	dmp	let me send you a pic
18:12	john_	the blue may be a little too much
18:13	john_	host it, dmp
18:13	dmp	the blue needs to be darker
18:13	dmp	MUCH darker
18:13	dmp	;)
18:13	john_	ok
18:13	john_	i will
18:15	john_	wtf
18:16	john_	i cant find the layer where my text is...
18:16	john_	heh
18:18	john_	ok
18:18	john_	how do i get those slices working?
18:19	john_	what do i save it as?
18:19	john_	:(
18:20	john_	gif?
18:21	john_	psd :)
18:21	john_	woah
18:21	john_	i cant fit it on my free host :o
18:22	john_	560kb!
18:23	john_	dmp? u here?
18:24	john_	anyone here?
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18:27	john_	i got it :)
18:28	adamg	and I just get an image not found
18:29	dmp	ditto
18:29	adamg	and why do people have to keep changing their nicks
18:29	dmp	epic has teh skillz
18:29	adamg	sighup ping mikegrb
18:29	sighup	mikegrb: ping! ping! ping!
18:29	sighup	mikegrb was last seen on #orion 19 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: heh [1077404983]
18:30	john_	dmp: when i Save for Web
18:30	john_	it saves it into 20 parts
18:30	dmp	heh
18:30	john_	i need it in maximum of 3 parts
18:30	adamg	it would do
18:30	dmp	use a program you understand then
18:30	adamg	to breaks it into logical parts
18:30	john_	yeah, but if i have it one part
18:31	adamg	and provides the html template to put it back together
18:31	john_	no :)
18:31	adamg	at least with 20 small images things appear bit by bit
18:31	john_	my free host only allows 3 images
18:31	john_	oic
18:31	john_	nevermind
18:31	john_	im retarded
18:31	adamg	then use somewhere else
18:32	john_	no ive got it :)
18:32	dmp	buy a linode
18:32	john_	yeah
18:32	adamg	sighup linode avail
18:32	sighup	Linode availability -- [Linode 96: 0] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 1] [Linode 256: 1]
18:32	john_	my brain frose
18:32	john_	i have on
18:32	john_	i have one*
18:32	adamg	then use it
18:32	john_	epicshells.mine.nu
18:32	john_	i am
18:32	john_	:)
18:32	adamg	and choose a nick and keep to it
18:32	adamg	time to relocate to uni, back in half hour of so
18:32	john_	sorry
18:33	john_	john is my name
18:33	john_	the shell im at
18:33	---	User: *** john_ is now known as epic
18:33	epic	im always epic
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18:47	epic	wee
18:47	epic	its awesome!
18:48	Tenkawa	epic: huh
18:50	epic	my site is teh d0pe
18:50	epic	http://epicshells.mine.nu
18:50	epic	i just made that UI
18:51	epic	cool?
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18:56	epic	hey adamg
18:56	epic	i finished my UI.. epicshells.mine.nu
18:57	adamg	looks strange on a high res screen
18:57	adamg	needs to be centered better
19:00	epic	oic
19:00	epic	you want me to center it?
19:00	adamg	well it is your site
19:01	epic	yeah
19:01	epic	whats ur resolution?
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19:01	adamg	hi metinex
19:01	metinex	hi
19:02	adamg	epic: 1024 x 768 and 1600 x 1200
19:02	epic	ok
19:02	epic	i have 1024x768
19:02	adamg	one laptop, 2 displays, 2 different res
19:02	adamg	it looks strange on both
19:02	epic	hmm
19:02	epic	ok
19:02	epic	looks fine here :p
19:03	@inkblot	strange here
19:03	dmp	strange on 1600x1200
19:03	epic	heh
19:03	epic	like... is it just bad?
19:03	adamg	needs to be centerd on the x axis as well
19:03	epic	ok
19:03	@inkblot	it's on the left margin
19:03	epic	i know
19:04	epic	thats the point :)
19:04	adamg	well it looks odd
19:04	epic	ok
19:05	epic	do u like the evil penguin?
19:05	adamg	looks even worse on 1280 x 1024
19:05	epic	:\|
19:05	epic	should i redo the whole thing?
19:05	epic	i think it looks nice :p
19:05	adamg	no just center is better
19:05	epic	ok
19:06	@inkblot	<inkblot> emad or not
19:06	epic	there
19:06	@inkblot	<Dumont> emad could NEVER wear those pants.
19:06	adamg	and change the li2-* to something better
19:06	epic	its epicshells.mine.nu
19:06	epic	and how do i change it :))
19:06	adamg	and the blue can be a bit hard to read
19:06	@inkblot	dpkg-reconfigure base-files
19:06	adamg	er edit the text
19:07	epic	?
19:07	epic	ok
19:07	epic	ill redo it :( thought the ls was a good idea
19:07	adamg	it the text of the webpage taken direct from the linode
19:07	adamg	it is a good idea
19:07	epic	those are the exact ls --color=auto colors
19:07	epic	no
19:07	epic	its a picture
19:07	epic	from putty
19:08	epic	spot where i messed up...
19:08	epic	on the first prompt theres no #
19:10	epic	i might make a rollover ls, so you roll over links, or interal and it pops down
19:10	heidi	oooooooooooooooooooooooops
19:14	epic	heidi: check out my site
19:15	epic	http://epicshells.mine.nu ... like it?
19:15	dmp	jhesus
19:15	epic	heh
19:15	dmp	how many times have you pimped that url?
19:15	epic	6
19:15	epic	heh
19:15	epic	brb
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20:09	heidi	so dmp is epic selling shells
20:10	dmp	hehe
20:10	dmp	I dont know
20:10	dmp	but he is going to be 0wnzed pretty damn quick
20:10	@mikegrb	yup
20:11	dmp	he's at the stage of removing executables to stop people running them
20:11	dmp	it's not exactly the zenith of sysadminism
20:14	heidi	well why on earth would he want me to look at that sight when my husband is selling shelss
20:14	heidi	shells
20:14	heidi	s/sight/site/
20:14	heidi	silly little kid
20:15	dmp	good question
20:15	dmp	mikegrb sells orion shells?
20:16	heidi	well, not orion
20:16	heidi	him and tj are starting up
20:16	heidi	myownshells
20:16	dmp	aha
20:16	heidi	on dedicated linodes
20:16	heidi	orion is for our personal use
20:16	dmp	aha
20:17	heidi	they have three customers so far
20:17	heidi	and they don't even have it up to charge yet
20:17	heidi	or a website
20:17	dmp	hehe
20:24	adamg	if anyone needs me, not that that is likely, get sighup to ping me
20:31	@mikegrb	can I ping him myself?
20:31	heidi	heh
20:31	heidi	probably
20:31	@mikegrb	--- lap031.cs.cf.ac.uk ping statistics ---
20:31	@mikegrb	9 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 0% packet loss
20:31	@mikegrb	round-trip min/avg/max = 114.3/116.6/118.8 ms
20:31	@mikegrb	I pinged him
20:32	adamg	haha
20:32	heidi	heh
20:32	heidi	hehehehehehe
20:32	@mikegrb	see it works
20:32	@mikegrb	doesn't have to just be sighup
20:32	adamg	only saw that bc I forgot to turn off notify on activity in the chan
20:33	@mikegrb	heh
20:33	adamg	I have your home IP address remeber :-)
20:33	@mikegrb	I'm scared
20:34	@mikegrb	sighup: netping iguana
20:34	@mikegrb	I don't think it is pingabe
20:34	sighup	PING iguana (68.59.13.161) 56(84) bytes of data.
20:34	sighup	5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4029ms
20:34	@mikegrb	pingable even
20:35	adamg	oh well back to work
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22:08	ElectricElf	adamg: It's a host in asia, http://www.bora.net/eng/network/net_ind.html
22:08	ElectricElf	adamg: I suspect a hacked box or something.
22:08	adamg	probably
22:09	adamg	wont get very far with the sysadmin then
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22:15	adamg	sighup linode avail
22:15	sighup	Linode availability -- [Linode 96: 0] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 1] [Linode 256: 1]
22:16		* ElectricElf is glad he got the 96 when he did
22:16	adamg	heh
22:16	adamg	well host17 had to be taken down due to the kernel problem
22:16	ElectricElf	Yeah, saw some of that.
22:16	adamg	caker must be pissed
22:17	ElectricElf	Do you know if caker gets the machines delivered to his place first?
22:17	adamg	yeah
22:17	ElectricElf	(I know I'd have given it a fucking good workout before shipping it off to the colo)
22:17	adamg	he builds them at his place
22:17	ElectricElf	Pity, then.
22:17	adamg	sets them up, test them and then ships them
22:17	adamg	this problem is just down to the 2.6 kernel, which he has been working on for ages
22:18	adamg	seems he did all hist test on 2.6.2, but shipped this one off with 2.6.3
22:18	adamg	I think he said he can have a host set-up within 5 days, from ordering to been in the DC
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22:53	@mikegrb	yup
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23:00	@inkblot	sighup, ping schweeb
23:00	sighup	schweeb: ping! ping! ping!
23:00	sighup	schweeb was last seen on #linode 18 hours, 33 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: caker: any progress on 2.6.3? [1077355622]
23:00	schweeb	yea?
23:00	@inkblot	[inkblot@egg:/etc]$ cat passwd group \| grep pedro
23:00	@inkblot	[inkblot@egg:/etc]$ ldapsearch -x -b dc=movealong,dc=org -LLL "(uid=pedro)" uid uidNumber
23:00	@inkblot	dn: uid=pedro,ou=People,dc=movealong,dc=org
23:00	@inkblot	uid: pedro
23:00	@inkblot	uidNumber: 1001
23:00	@inkblot	[inkblot@egg:/etc]$ id pedro
23:00	@inkblot	uid=1001(pedro) gid=1001(pedro) groups=1001(pedro)
23:00	@inkblot	t/hee
23:00	schweeb	good work
23:00	@inkblot	that's on a uml system running woody
23:01	@mikegrb	:)
23:01	schweeb	I'm gonna re-set up my LDAP shit soon
23:01	schweeb	damn, thi storrent is killing my upload
23:01	schweeb	I can't see what I'm typing
23:01	@inkblot	i'm gonna start producing custom bbcs that do ldap auth off of movealong.org
23:02	@inkblot	note that right now everything on the bbc that does auth stuff touches the unix flat files directly
23:02	schweeb	what would the point of that be?
23:02	@inkblot	schweeb, satellite nodes
23:03	schweeb	for distcc or something?
23:03	@inkblot	for whatever
23:09	schweeb	are you using LDAP with TLS?
23:10	@inkblot	no
23:10	@inkblot	but it's all just localhost, currently
23:10	schweeb	yea
23:10	@inkblot	how do i set that up?
23:10	@inkblot	also,
23:10	@inkblot	brb
23:10	schweeb	I haven't set that up yet, haven't had time to do that
23:11	schweeb	our work LDAP server is on the LAN, so we're not really worried about it... but we're working to start locking down plaintext communications a bit
23:13	ElectricElf	inkblot: "on the bbc"?
23:13	@inkblot	http://www.lnx-bbc.org/
23:14	ElectricElf	Thought so
23:15	@inkblot	schweeb, so if i run 'adduser' on this system, will that info go into ldap?
23:15	schweeb	hrm
23:15	schweeb	I think in some situations it does
23:15		* ElectricElf isn't aware of an LDAP-aware adduser
23:15		* ElectricElf would kill for such
23:15	@inkblot	Adding user test...
23:15	@inkblot	Adding new group test (1001).
23:15	@inkblot	Adding new user test (1001) with group test.
23:15	@inkblot	:<
23:15	schweeb	that's a no then
23:15	@inkblot	that's pedro's uid :<
23:16	schweeb	that's the worst thing about LDAP, is you have to be careful that your local UID and GID scheme doesn't interfere, or else you'll run into security issues
23:16	@inkblot	yeah
23:17	ElectricElf	schweeb: I'm planning a deployment that uses LDAP as a store, but pushes out flatfiles to all the hosts in question.
23:17	@inkblot	[inkblot@egg:/home/pedro]$ id pedro
23:17	@inkblot	id: pedro: No such user
23:17	@inkblot	:<<<<<
23:17	schweeb	ElectricElf: pushes how often?
23:17	ElectricElf	schweeb: Whenever it's changed.
23:17	schweeb	cool
23:17	adamg	never really got on with ldap
23:18	ElectricElf	Actually, I shouldn't say that. I'm still torn between a live system or backend-to-flatfiles system.
23:18	ElectricElf	But if it isn't backend-to-flatfiles, the DB will be replicated on each host.
23:18	schweeb	LDAP can do replication pretty easy
23:18	adamg	depends on the overhead you want
23:18	schweeb	it can do referrals as well
23:18	ElectricElf	schweeb: Yeah, slurpd++
23:19	ElectricElf	schweeb: Yeah :)
23:19	schweeb	referrals are neat
23:19	ElectricElf	schweeb: I know it's possible. I've just not decided based on the merits and pitfalls of each option.
23:19	ElectricElf	Newer OpenLDAP supports an SQL backend, which is pretty neat.
23:20	ElectricElf	schweeb: Anyways, yeah, the backend-to-flatfiles method allows for non-concurrent addition of system (or other) users in a safe manner, just need to update the backend appropriately after each (set) of changes.
23:21	ElectricElf	I should say, "via adduser"
23:21	ElectricElf	So for package installs.
23:21	@inkblot	[inkblot@egg:/etc]$ id pedro
23:21	@inkblot	uid=1001(pedro) gid=1001(pedro) groups=1001(pedro)
23:21	@inkblot	:DDDDD
23:21	@inkblot	[inkblot@egg:/etc]$ grep test /etc/passwd
23:21	@inkblot	test:x:1002:1002:Test,,,:/home/test:/bin/bash
23:21	@inkblot	weet
23:21	@inkblot	too bad it didn't go into ldap
23:22	@mikegrb	heh
23:22	schweeb	hrm
23:23	schweeb	there's a utility to add users to ldap via cmd line
23:23	schweeb	I thought
23:23	ElectricElf	schweeb: Yeah, there are a bunch.
23:23	@inkblot	it was an nsswitch.conf problem
23:23	ElectricElf	schweeb: The problem, at least on Debian systems, is that to be useful it needs to be a /usr/bin/adduser-compatible replacement.
23:24	schweeb	why, for debconf scripts?
23:24	@inkblot	hmmmm
23:24	schweeb	I leave machine accounts local
23:24	ElectricElf	schweeb: For package scripts, yeah.
23:25	ElectricElf	schweeb: (Not necessarily debconf)
23:25	@inkblot	but those accounts are related to specific software
23:25	@inkblot	which may or may not be installed on all of the machines
23:25	chris	bo
23:25	ElectricElf	schweeb: That's a security concern, though, if you're sharing files amongst machines.
23:25	chris	bo? Yes
23:25	@inkblot	chris, ?
23:25	ElectricElf	schweeb: (And why I'm looking at somewhat more ... complex ... options :)
23:25	chris	inkblot: making my typos sound intentional
23:25	@mikegrb	heh
23:26	@inkblot	[inkblot@goose:~]$ grep mikegrb irclogs/oftc/#linode.log \| tail -4
23:26	@inkblot	21:53 <@mikegrb> yup
23:26	@inkblot	22:01 <@mikegrb> :)
23:26	@inkblot	22:22 <@mikegrb> heh
23:26	@inkblot	22:25 <@mikegrb> heh
23:26	schweeb	hahaha
23:26	ElectricElf	lol
23:27	ElectricElf	inkblot++ :)
23:27	ElectricElf	mikegrb: Say something substantive :)
23:27	schweeb	mikegrb is oh so insightful tonight :p
23:27	@inkblot	mikegrb, i'm drinking, too
23:27	@mikegrb	heh
23:27	@mikegrb	haha
23:27	@inkblot	^-- :D
23:27	@mikegrb	;)
23:27	@mikegrb	lol
23:28	@inkblot	sighup, karma for <
23:28	sighup	< has karma of -249
23:28	@inkblot	sighup, karma for ^
23:28	sighup	^ has karma of -35
23:28	@inkblot	excellent
23:28	@mikegrb	heh
23:29	@inkblot	<@inkblot> karma for <
23:29	@inkblot	<+Dumont> < has karma of -20253
23:29	@inkblot	^-- so many arrows
23:29		* mikegrb nods
23:29	schweeb	sighup: karma for schweeb
23:29	sighup	schweeb has karma of 3
23:29	schweeb	yay
23:29	@mikegrb	heh
23:29	schweeb	sighup: karma for caker
23:29	sighup	caker has karma of 92
23:29	@inkblot	schweeb++
23:30	schweeb	sighup: karma for schweeb
23:30	sighup	schweeb has karma of 4
23:30	schweeb	hoorah
23:30	schweeb	I'm tired.
23:30	@inkblot	ok, so adduser will just create accounts in the 100-$whatever range for system accounts
23:30	ElectricElf	inkblot: Yeah.
23:30	@inkblot	so that's not going to interfere with the 1000+ range
23:30	@inkblot	which is where the users will go
23:30	ElectricElf	inkblot: It shouldn't.
23:30	@inkblot	i do not expect it too
23:31	@inkblot	that's a lot of system accounts
23:31	ElectricElf	inkblot: It'd be a bug if a package script created a system user without supplying --system to adduser.
23:31	@inkblot	indeed
23:31	@mikegrb	I concur
23:31	@mikegrb	is that better?