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| 00:29 | jolby | Hi-- does any one here know generally how long it takes for an account to activated after registering? I realize this isn't during business hours, so if I have to wait until tomorrow that's cool. |
| 00:31 | @caker | jolby: Hello. I just activated it a few minutes ago.. :) |
| 00:31 | jolby | oh, cool! That was fast. Lemme try to log in then. |
| 00:32 | jotun | caker, how many accounts do you have in all, out of curiosity? or prefer not to say? |
| 00:32 | @caker | jotun: a few hundred |
| 00:32 | chris | caker: I wish I could bug you and say something was broken... but nothing is |
| 00:33 | @caker | chris: maybe on some new features, perhaps? :) |
| 00:33 | chris | caker: hrmmm, but most of the "features" are left to us to implement :) |
| 00:33 | chris | Once it's setup I can't think of anything |
| 00:33 | @caker | chris: how about custom kernel builder, as ElectricElf (and others) have suggested? |
| 00:33 | jolby | caker: I just logged in. Thanks. I'm psyched there's an active irc channel for linode. |
| 00:34 | ElectricElf | caker: I don't think that's too high on my own list. |
| 00:34 | ElectricElf | caker: I'm sure I could think of something I wanted more :) |
| 00:34 | @caker | ElectricElf: yeah, but it sounds fun :) |
| 00:34 | ElectricElf | caker: Hehe |
| 00:34 | ElectricElf | caker: The kernel guys would love you :) |
| 00:35 | chris | caker: Can't think of anything I'd need in the kernel :D |
| 00:35 | ElectricElf | Er, they'd love you if you actually put in a web-based interface to it (as opposed to just uploading .configs - which would definetly be the way to go ;). |
| 00:35 | @caker | chris: that's the point, kinda -- to eliminate stuff you don't wait, to save a few dozen kilobytes of RAM |
| 00:35 | ElectricElf | caker: You should note that, when I suggested that, I thought the kernels were modular. |
| 00:35 | @caker | s/wait/want/ |
| 00:36 | @caker | ElectricElf: ahh .. |
| 00:36 | ElectricElf | caker: A rescue system image with COW would probably be more useful to me, or perhaps a more polished Debian image (and the rest of 'em too, if they need it). |
| 00:37 | @caker | ElectricElf: yeah, I wasn't speaking priorities :) |
| 00:37 | ElectricElf | caker: Heheh :) |
| 00:37 | ElectricElf | caker: So many nifty things... |
| 00:37 | chris | Make the debian image a base install that a netinst would do |
| 00:37 | chris | Which is like.... 45 meg? |
| 00:37 | ElectricElf | Firewalling and more complete monitoring facilities would be nice too. |
| 00:38 | ElectricElf | chris: Naw, it's actually a very minimal installation. |
| 00:38 | ElectricElf | chris: It's not even enough to be considered "UNIX-like" |
| 00:38 | ElectricElf | chris: (Which is Debian's base+standard) |
| 00:39 | chris | Someone was telling me they couldn't install debian because they were missing cd 5 |
| 00:39 | ElectricElf | I was thinking more along the lines of updated package lists, up-to-date packages with respect to security.debian.org, a more complete configuration, that sort of stuff. |
| 00:39 | chris | That concept scared me |
| 00:39 | schweeb | I think 80 MB is small enough |
| 00:39 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah, definetly. |
| 00:39 | ElectricElf | chris: They must have been using a very esoteric package if it was on CD5 instead of 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 ;) |
| 00:39 | ElectricElf | chris: And they could have gotten it off the 'net, too. |
| 00:39 | schweeb | I've never gone past CD 1 ;) |
| 00:39 | chris | ElectricElf: I guess they thought they needed the entire set for a base install |
| 00:39 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Ditto. network++ :) |
| 00:40 | ElectricElf | chris: Were they using some unofficial testing or unstable CD set? A released Debian would *never* be broken in that manner. |
| 00:40 | chris | ElectricElf: I don't think the data on the cds had anything to do with it.... |
| 00:40 | ElectricElf | chris: The 185MB netinsts actually contain base+standard. |
| 00:40 | schweeb | ElectricElf: I'd do it the same way w/ dialup too, cept I'd have a cache of debs that I would hold very precious to me |
| 00:41 | chris | Just the idea of "I want to install debian, that must mean I need all 7 cds" |
| 00:41 | ElectricElf | chris: Ah :) |
| 00:41 | ElectricElf | chris: Yeah, common misconception. |
| 00:41 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah, BTDT. |
| 00:41 | ElectricElf | chris: Kind of a shame really, but there's nothing finer than having a physical copy of all the software you use :) |
| 00:41 | | * ElectricElf is actually working on a netinst/liveCD |
| 00:42 | schweeb | that util CD? |
| 00:42 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah. |
| 00:42 | chris | One of these days I need to get a copy of knoppix and gut out all the crap |
| 00:42 | chris | So I can have a nice diag cli cd |
| 00:42 | schweeb | anyone give you any good ideas for it EE? |
| 00:42 | chris | Stuff like memtest, dd, cpuburn, etc |
| 00:42 | ElectricElf | schweeb: I'm good, actually. |
| 00:42 | schweeb | chris: that's what he's doing |
| 00:42 | schweeb | except building from the bottom up |
| 00:42 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Have lots of data. |
| 00:42 | schweeb | not from knoppix down |
| 00:42 | schweeb | ElectricElf: ah cool |
| 00:42 | chris | Probably a better plan |
| 00:43 | chris | knoppix is built.... oddly |
| 00:43 | ElectricElf | Yeah, trying to use Debian stuff only, so that it isn't a Frankeninstallation. |
| 00:43 | ElectricElf | chris: Yeah. |
| 00:43 | schweeb | still making a 180M CD? |
| 00:43 | schweeb | or you goin full size |
| 00:43 | ElectricElf | schweeb: 185MB, yeah. |
| 00:43 | ElectricElf | schweeb: I might also make a 50MB version for the not-really-businesscard-sized CDs, but that's secondar. |
| 00:44 | chris | I need to get started on my debian dev app |
| 00:44 | chris | Luckily I have the tough step out of the way |
| 00:44 | ElectricElf | chris: Cool, do you package anything? |
| 00:44 | schweeb | just make sure it has a recent kernel and wireless-tools EE |
| 00:44 | ElectricElf | chris: Hah :) |
| 00:44 | chris | Getting a dev signature on my gpg key is easy when you can walk over to walters' house |
| 00:45 | chris | s/you/I/ |
| 00:45 | ElectricElf | s/chris/schweeb/ |
| 00:45 | schweeb | same thing ;) |
| 00:45 | chris | ElectricElf: Don't package anything currently but I have some stuff I'm writing personally that I plan to |
| 00:45 | ElectricElf | chris: Actually, I just finished going through the AM process again ... I don't honestly think getting one's key signed is the hard part any more :) |
| 00:45 | chris | Though I'd like to take some orphans too |
| 00:45 | --- | User: *** schweeb is now known as chrisscheib |
| 00:45 | ElectricElf | chris: The questionnaires are *brutal*. |
| 00:45 | mikegrb | caker: new ips without rebooting ;) that's my wish list item :p |
| 00:45 | chrisscheib | that better EE |
| 00:45 | --- | User: *** chrisscheib is now known as schweeb |
| 00:45 | chris | ElectricElf: Why'd you go through it *again* ? |
| 00:45 | ElectricElf | chrisscheib: Bastard :) |
| 00:46 | ElectricElf | chris: Oh, got stuck at getting my GPG key signed the first time, but I was already doing gobs of work, and there were a few huge flamewars on the lists regarding people not getting accounts. |
| 00:46 | ElectricElf | chris: I wanted to shut them up by proving that an account is irrelevant if you want to get work done. (I think I was quite successful.) |
| 00:46 | @caker | mikegrb: gotcha :) |
| 00:46 | mikegrb | ;) |
| 00:47 | ElectricElf | Now you're actually expected to have at least one package, already in the archive, to complete the NM process. |
| 00:47 | chris | ElectricElf: I worry about how long the friggin process takes |
| 00:47 | ElectricElf | (In the archive and *maintained*) |
| 00:47 | schweeb | I'm looking into learning how to package pretty soon |
| 00:47 | ElectricElf | chris: Well, I finished the AM portion of it in about 24 hours. |
| 00:47 | chris | wait... you can't get a package IN the archive without being a dev |
| 00:47 | chris | Isn't that a catch-22? |
| 00:47 | ElectricElf | chris: No, that's incorrect. |
| 00:47 | ElectricElf | chris: You just need to get a DD to upload it for you (the DD in that case is referred to as the sponsor). |
| 00:48 | schweeb | I can do packages, but I mostly rip other people's rules and stuff |
| 00:48 | chris | ahh |
| 00:48 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Pretty good way to get started, though. |
| 00:48 | schweeb | ElectricElf: yea |
| 00:48 | ElectricElf | chris: http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=dbharris%40eelf.ddts.net |
| 00:48 | chris | I'll probably get colin walters or isaac jones to sponsor me |
| 00:48 | ElectricElf | chris: To get an idea of the timeline, if you already know everything and have done a lot of work |
| 00:48 | chris | I know them both personally and they're both local |
| 00:48 | ElectricElf | chris: (I'm waiting for the DAM right now - I don't know how long that will take.) |
| 00:49 | ElectricElf | s/know everything/know everything relevant to the questionnaires/ |
| 00:49 | ElectricElf | They should really be called "exams" now :) |
| 00:49 | | * mikegrb examinates ElectricElf |
| 00:49 | | * ElectricElf opens wide for mikegrb |
| 00:49 | ElectricElf | (*groan*) |
| 00:49 | chris | What do the questionaires actually cover? |
| 00:49 | schweeb | you'd really like that, wouldn't you mike |
| 00:49 | schweeb | :p |
| 00:49 | mikegrb | shush |
| 00:50 | ElectricElf | chris: Your ability to read and understand licenses, your understanding of the Social Contract and DFSG, and the technical skills. |
| 00:50 | ElectricElf | chris: ("technical skills" being packaging in addition to a host of other things relating to how to maintain a package, like dealing with bug reports and such) |
| 00:51 | chris | If you don't do well on the "exam" can you attempt again later or is it a "Go to jail, do not pass go, wait 6 months then try again" affair? |
| 00:51 | | * mikegrb reports the bugs in ElectricElf's ear |
| 00:51 | ElectricElf | chris: http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/templates/?txt?rev=1.38&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=nm-templates |
| 00:51 | mikegrb | oh |
| 00:51 | mikegrb | those were just hairs |
| 00:51 | mikegrb | sorry |
| 00:51 | ElectricElf | chris: The two you'd go through for being a regular DD are nm_pp.txt and nm_ts.txt |
| 00:52 | ElectricElf | chris: You'll probably be put on hold until you can answer everything satisfactorily, and you'll probably be examined more carefully thereafter. |
| 00:52 | ElectricElf | chris: You're expected to be able to answer these things if you're wanting the trust associated with being able to access Debian resources and upload packages which run as root on many people's machines. |
| 00:53 | mikegrb | ElectricElf: quick question more of yeah or nay and I can look further for the details but one can assign ip's on different subnets to the same interface so if a switch supports vlans via ip then perhaps the router could be on two vlans with only one ethernet card? ie talk to both secure and insecure? |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: That's right. |
| 00:54 | @caker | cool .. 2.6.3 is out |
| 00:54 | mikegrb | thanks |
| 00:54 | chris | hrmm, sleep is more important right now |
| 00:54 | schweeb | caker: ooh |
| 00:54 | chris | I'll read those later |
| 00:54 | mikegrb | it was sounding like that should work |
| 00:54 | schweeb | ElectricElf: countless people's machines |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: If the switch only supports it via vlans (802.11q), then you'd also need to configure the NICs in Linux as such. |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah, literally :) |
| 00:54 | schweeb | Debian's got a huge installed base |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | chris: BASTARD! I just upgraded to 2.6.2 |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | Never fails. |
| 00:54 | @caker | ElectricElf: s/chris/caker/ |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | caker: Thanks. |
| 00:55 | --- | User: *** chris is now known as EE-catchall-nick |
| 00:55 | | * ElectricElf cracks the whip |
| 00:55 | schweeb | ElectricElf: you're having trouble tonight w/ chris, eh? |
| 00:55 | schweeb | hey, there's 3 of us here |
| 00:55 | ElectricElf | schweeb: No, I do this constantly. |
| 00:55 | ElectricElf | schweeb: I suck. |
| 00:55 | @caker | EE-catchall-nick: hehe |
| 00:55 | ElectricElf | EE-catchall-nick: Now, that I can use :) |
| 00:55 | | * schweeb pokes caker ElectricElf and schweeb... a trifecta of chris's |
| 00:55 | schweeb | dammit |
| 00:55 | --- | User: *** EE-catchall-nick is now known as chris |
| 00:55 | | * ElectricElf is a Dave, not a Chris :) |
| 00:55 | schweeb | s/ElectricElf/EE-catchall-nick |
| 00:55 | @caker | it's happening to schweeb now |
| 00:55 | ElectricElf | "These are the Daves I know I know, these are the Daves I know" |
| 00:55 | schweeb | ;_; |
| 00:56 | chris | muahaha |
| 00:56 | ElectricElf | caker: It's contagious. |
| 00:56 | schweeb | caker: yep ;_; |
| 00:56 | mikegrb | I'll look into that, but sounds like the switch will be able to handle it, it has serveral methods for setting vlan policy, ip/subnet mac address, and port and says any of those can be assigned to multiple vlans |
| 00:56 | | * chris vaccinates with sleep |
| 00:56 | mikegrb | ElectricElf: I'm hoping just setting the two vlans via ip/netmask then bam it will just work |
| 00:56 | mikegrb | will read up on .11q though, that is my assignment for tommorow |
| 00:56 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Yeah, as you said, depends on the switch. :) |
| 00:57 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Is there a Linux router involved in this, or is it just the switch? |
| 00:57 | mikegrb | well cable modem <-> linux router <-> switch <-> computers |
| 00:57 | ElectricElf | And s/802.11q/802.1q/ |
| 00:57 | ElectricElf | (Typo) |
| 00:58 | mikegrb | I have an ap/switch that will either connect to another iface in the router or connect to the switch and be on another vlan |
| 00:58 | mikegrb | depending on how hard it is to make vlan stuff work :p |
| 00:58 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Okay, then you shouldn't need to do anything 802.1q-related on the Linux box. |
| 00:58 | mikegrb | and it looks like STP would handle warewolfs problems with his laptop |
| 00:58 | @caker | mikegrb: where does your voip box fit in? is it in front like they want for QoS? |
| 00:58 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: I've a terrible habit of putting a Linux box anywhere where something fancy is going on :) |
| 00:59 | mikegrb | ElectricElf: ;) |
| 00:59 | schweeb | lol |
| 00:59 | mikegrb | caker: well the big push for a linux router was so I can do qos myself |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | flexibility++, horsepower++ |
| 00:59 | schweeb | ElectricElf: I think I have that sickness too |
| 00:59 | @caker | mikegrb: ok |
| 00:59 | mikegrb | caker: it will be into the new switch |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | schweeb: It's hard to beat a $50 Linux box that can do everything a $500 Cisco router can do, but faster. |
| 00:59 | mikegrb | caker: ie when I paste a url for an image on my home webserver I can't type on irc for a few minutes while everyone goes and works |
| 00:59 | mikegrb | s/works/looks/ |
| 01:00 | schweeb | ElectricElf: I really need a LAN I can just play with... UML could help some in this respect, but real hardware is nice too |
| 01:01 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah. |
| 01:01 | mikegrb | heh |
| 01:01 | mikegrb | schweeb: that was the draw to a managed switch for me |
| 01:01 | ElectricElf | schweeb: If the next job I get is decent, I'm going to move downtown. Rent's cheaper, so I'll be able to get a bigger place so I can have a lab. |
| 01:01 | schweeb | they have that virtual network thing for UMLs now |
| 01:01 | mikegrb | schweeb: I was concidering even 10mbs only switch so I could afford one with managment capabilities |
| 01:01 | schweeb | ElectricElf: yea, I wanna set up a lab downstairs |
| 01:02 | schweeb | mikegrb: heh, I would never ever do that |
| 01:02 | mikegrb | :/ |
| 01:02 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Nothing like having a dozen platforms ready for testing and prototyping. |
| 01:02 | schweeb | I only have x86 ;) |
| 01:02 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Bah, it's not a lab unless you've got a decent gamut :) |
| 01:02 | mikegrb | heh |
| 01:02 | schweeb | well, I've got a Cisco 2514 too ;) |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | schweeb: There's a start :) |
| 01:03 | schweeb | that's the extent of my hardware |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Get some Nortel gear too :) |
| 01:03 | @caker | 2.4.25-rc4 was just released "If nothing bad shows up, this will become final" - marcelo |
| 01:03 | schweeb | nortel = unf |
| 01:03 | | * mikegrb adds a note to swipe a bit of EE's $other_arch equipment next time in .ca |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Then some Sparc, some hppa, some Alpha... |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: If I have any. |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | heh |
| 01:03 | schweeb | I want a SPARC and an Alpha pretty badly |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | schweeb: x86 is cheaper and faster. |
| 01:03 | schweeb | just need to find somewhere to get one free :-/ |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | + powerpc |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | schweeb: (But for good testing... :) |
| 01:04 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Yeah. Not sure how I'll get a decent PPC box. |
| 01:04 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: The rest of 'em I can either get cheap and used, or donated for free. |
| 01:04 | mikegrb | ElectricElf: swipe miro's powerbook |
| 01:04 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: PPC though, is expensive and a decent box is hard to find for a decent price :| |
| 01:04 | mikegrb | then /me runs! |
| 01:04 | schweeb | ElectricElf: if whiprush wouldn't have been such a fag, he would have grabbed an SPARC for me from SAIC |
| 01:04 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Bastard! :) |
| 01:05 | schweeb | instead he only grabbed one for himself, and then traded it to my boss for a G4 |
| 01:05 | | * chris so far has deb on mips, sparc, ppc and x86 |
| 01:06 | | * mikegrb has deb on two uml's and a netinst cd :p |
| 01:06 | ElectricElf | chris: Lucky bastard. |
| 01:06 | mikegrb | but that cd is sitting ontop of a box with no os |
| 01:06 | schweeb | mikegrb: I have a dozen Debian boxes under my control or so |
| 01:06 | mikegrb | perhaps I can get it up before the switch is here |
| 01:06 | schweeb | and then a dozen RedHat machines under m y control |
| 01:07 | schweeb | hopefully those RH machines get moved to deb soon enough |
| 01:07 | chris | and now I have to sleep |
| 01:07 | | * chris & |
| 01:07 | mikegrb | nn caker |
| 01:07 | mikegrb | er chris |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | 'nite chris |
| 01:07 | mikegrb | ElectricElf: bastard! |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | chris: See? It's not just me. |
| 01:07 | mikegrb | you're wearing off |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | Damnit! |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | s/chris/caker/ |
| 01:07 | chris | ...... |
| 01:07 | mikegrb | I need more channels with less ElectricElf |
| 01:07 | chris | That's just amazing |
| 01:08 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Hahaha |
| 01:08 | | * mikegrb blames the "numpty" tab completion in irssi |
| 01:08 | schweeb | hey, question... anyone know what type of expansion slot is green, similar to PCI, but reversed, and longer? 64 bit PCI? |
| 01:08 | mikegrb | perhaps |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | could be some sort of prepretary riser slot type thing |
| 01:09 | schweeb | no |
| 01:09 | schweeb | it's in a Dell server |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | I have a mobo with a funky connection for a combination modem/ethernet/sound card |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | oh |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | well then :p |
| 01:09 | schweeb | and said "PCI" on the riser |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | your first guess would be mine |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | well see, leaving out crucial info |
| 01:09 | mikegrb | I'd guess PCI then ;) |
| 01:10 | shakr | reversed? |
| 01:10 | schweeb | it most certainly wasn't PCI |
| 01:10 | mikegrb | 64 bit pci is still pci, no? |
| 01:10 | schweeb | 64bit maybe, or PCI-Express or something |
| 01:10 | schweeb | I dunno, but it wasn't compatible with standard PCI |
| 01:11 | schweeb | my boss hadn't ever seen it either |
| 01:11 | @caker | schweeb: http://www.supermicro.com/Product_page/MB-Pics/E7501/X5DMS-6GM-lg.jpg |
| 01:11 | schweeb | went to stick an extra NIC in my firewall, and found out that it wouldn't go in that type of slot |
| 01:11 | @caker | schweeb: like that one? |
| 01:12 | mikegrb | caker: yeah |
| 01:12 | mikegrb | ;) |
| 01:13 | schweeb | yes caker |
| 01:13 | schweeb | that would be it |
| 01:13 | @caker | my manual says 133Mhz PCI-X |
| 01:13 | schweeb | short for PCI Express then? |
| 01:13 | @caker | the larger, brown one is also labeled the same |
| 01:13 | shakr | negative |
| 01:14 | @caker | heh .. they're all labelled PCI-X |
| 01:14 | shakr | pci-x is overclocked / overbitted pci |
| 01:14 | shakr | usually on server class boards, only |
| 01:14 | schweeb | hence being in my Dell server |
| 01:14 | shakr | pci-express is a consumer targetted slot, coming soon |
| 01:15 | @caker | can't wait |
| 01:15 | schweeb | I've stopped caring much about hardware |
| 01:15 | schweeb | as long as my shit works in linux smoothly |
| 01:15 | @caker | AI is where it's at |
| 01:15 | | * mikegrb heads off to bed |
| 01:15 | mikegrb | you may now talk to my simulated ai bot, sighup |
| 01:15 | sighup | mikegrb: what? |
| 01:16 | mikegrb | he is at least as smart as mee |
| 01:16 | mikegrb | sighup: good night |
| 01:16 | sighup | mikegrb: excuse me? |
| 01:16 | @caker | sighup: when is mikegrb coming back? |
| 01:16 | sighup | caker: wish i knew |
| 01:16 | ElectricElf | sighup: rr |
| 01:16 | mikegrb | caker: time will tell, time will tell |
| 01:16 | ElectricElf | Hrmph |
| 01:16 | | * mikegrb points at EE and laughs, you're dead! |
| 01:16 | | * mikegrb runs |
| 01:16 | ElectricElf | Heh, not opped :) |
| 01:16 | ElectricElf | It could at least tell us :) |
| 01:16 | ElectricElf | (Whether we'd have been dead or not) |
| 01:17 | schweeb | sighup: rr |
| 01:17 | sighup | schweeb spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun. |
| 01:17 | schweeb | schweeb > EE |
| 01:17 | schweeb | :p |
| 01:19 | ElectricElf | sighup: rr |
| 01:19 | sighup | ElectricElf spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun. |
| 01:19 | ElectricElf | Yay :) |
| 01:23 | schweeb | man, databases really aren't my thing |
| 01:23 | schweeb | sighup: rr |
| 01:23 | sighup | schweeb spins the chamber, pulls the trigger, and lives to hand you the gun. |
| 01:27 | | * schweeb does a DROP DATABASE |
| 01:30 | | * schweeb DROPs caker's databases while he's at it |
| 01:55 | schweeb | nite |
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| 02:16 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [+o mikegrb] by ChanServ |
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| 02:22 | --- | User: *** artifex is now known as Guest183 |
| 02:32 | @caker | big one |
| 02:39 | @caker | sighup: linode forums |
| 02:39 | sighup | caker: Linode.com Announcements: IMPORTANT: Hurricane Electric Caching Nameservers; Feature Request/Bug Report: Kernel .config; Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum: what will a UML-kernel do for you; General Discussion: Memory limites; Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum: Can't get Apache Virtual Domain to Work |
| 02:52 | ElectricElf | caker: Big one? |
| 02:53 | @caker | split |
| 02:53 | ElectricElf | Yeah. We've been having a bad week. |
| 02:53 | ElectricElf | Our best machines are out of commission waiting for maintenance. |
| 02:54 | @caker | drive related? |
| 02:54 | ElectricElf | One of the sponsors just offered to do theirs earlier than they had planned so we can put it back into the rotation. |
| 02:54 | ElectricElf | caker: One of them, yeah. Faulty Dell RAID controller. |
| 02:54 | @caker | that's cool |
| 02:54 | ElectricElf | Yeah. Generally, we've a pretty good relationship with the people who provide resources. |
| 02:54 | ElectricElf | (Though most of them are pretty hands-off :) |
| 02:55 | @caker | What are some oftc statistics? |
| 02:55 | ElectricElf | caker: Our services box, the one that handles NickServ and friends, can push 30GB/month on a heavy month. We've got a dedicated machine for that coming up. |
| 02:56 | ElectricElf | caker: A heavily-used leaf server can also push around that - the most I've ever seen is 40GB/sec |
| 02:56 | ElectricElf | s/sec/month/ |
| 02:56 | ElectricElf | caker: The servers that aren't used much don't use enough bandwidth worth counting :) |
| 02:56 | ElectricElf | caker: CPU and memory usage are tiny, the codebase (hybrid7) is really quite nice. |
| 02:56 | @caker | ElectricElf: how many users and channels online on avg? |
| 02:56 | ElectricElf | We could easily support 20,000 users on a single-proc box. |
| 02:57 | ElectricElf | caker: Between 1500 and 1900 users lately, it changes with season. |
| 02:57 | ElectricElf | caker: http://irc.netsplit.de/ tracks those sorts of things. |
| 02:57 | | * caker bookmarks |
| 02:57 | ElectricElf | http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=OFTC |
| 02:59 | ElectricElf | caker: We've two dedicated machines currently with a third on the way ("dedicated" meaning they're solely for OFTC use and are administered by OFTC staff), and ~18-25 IRC servers. |
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| 03:10 | @caker | ElectricElf: cool |
| 03:10 | @caker | ElectricElf: any idea what the total # reg users are, or distinct users, like in the past month or year? |
| 03:14 | ElectricElf | Sorry, preparing for that server reboot. |
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| 03:15 | --- | Netsplit over, joins: caker, AndyHat |
| 03:15 | --- | Netsplit over, joins: wferrel |
| 03:15 | ElectricElf | And there she is. :) |
| 03:15 | caker | weird |
| 03:15 | ElectricElf | caker: I can tell you the total number of registered nicks (3601), but I couldn't easily tell you which of those are unique. |
| 03:16 | caker | ElectricElf: and that's probably a small percentage of total user base |
| 03:16 | ElectricElf | caker: Well, OFTC has a pretty technically-adept user base, though less so than we used to (isn't that always the way? :), so that would be more true elsewhere. |
| 03:17 | ElectricElf | caker: But last time I really did an analysis, we had about half again as many regular users as there were connections to the network at any given time. |
| 03:17 | ElectricElf | caker: So if that holds true (and I'd expect the difference to be even more now), there'd be about 2700 regular users or so. |
| 03:17 | caker | ElectricElf: gotcha |
| 03:17 | ElectricElf | caker: DBs have a tendency to get filled with cruft ;) |
| 03:18 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [+o caker] by ChanServ |
| 03:18 | ElectricElf | There was actually an attack about a year ago, added tens of thousands of rows to the DB. |
| 03:18 | @caker | ugh |
| 03:18 | ElectricElf | It wasn't that bad, we have timestamps and similar. |
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| 05:57 | Devboy | hi, can someone give me a hand? |
| 05:57 | Devboy | ??? |
| 05:59 | Devboy | can anyone help me with apache |
| 06:47 | e|homework | hehe |
| 06:47 | --- | User: *** e|homework is now known as epic |
| 06:48 | Devboy | whats to apt update command again? apt-get install update ? |
| 06:48 | Devboy | dont matter i got it |
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| 07:42 | epic | hehe |
| 07:42 | epic | i still cant stop https :( |
| 07:45 | Devboy | why is my disk creation still in que 10mins later? |
| 07:46 | Devboy | or pending |
| 07:46 | Devboy | *progress |
| 07:49 | dmp | because you're not patient enough? |
| 07:50 | epic | ;) |
| 07:50 | epic | mine was instant :D |
| 07:50 | epic | but i had to reinstall 3 times |
| 07:53 | epic | anyone have suggestions what i should use a linux box? i want to buy one, and hook it up to a phone line... |
| 07:55 | dmp | 'what i should use a linux box?' |
| 07:56 | epic | as a* |
| 07:56 | dmp | an xbox? |
| 07:57 | epic | like, a Thinkpad.. but i do have an Xbox :) |
| 07:57 | dmp | #xbox-linux |
| 07:57 | dmp | :) |
| 07:57 | epic | i was looking at the R40, we have 100's of them |
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| 08:17 | lurq | anyone knows what ports are blocked be default (by the colo-center)? |
| 08:17 | lurq | s/be/by/ |
| 08:22 | sinned | no ports are |
| 08:37 | Devboy | caker u there mate? |
| 08:41 | epic | Ahhh |
| 08:41 | epic | i hate nethack |
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| 09:13 | epic | imn never playing nethack, i just was at like, level5 and i went blind i saved, like 5 minutes before... i tried to exit and it ERASED my sae!^%!@^%!*@^%! |
| 09:14 | epic | omfg |
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| 09:17 | @tjfontaine | I think he masturbates too much, he's always complaining about going blind |
| 09:17 | chris | He should listen to his mother more |
| 09:18 | @tjfontaine | aye |
| 09:21 | Devboy | lol |
| 09:21 | Tenkawa | rofk |
| 09:21 | Devboy | he could be diabetic, |
| 09:21 | Tenkawa | err rofl |
| 09:22 | Tenkawa | people still play nethack? scary |
| 09:22 | chris | Still? What's that supposed to mean |
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| 09:22 | epic | OMG |
| 09:22 | epic | OMG |
| 09:22 | epic | OMG |
| 09:22 | chris | epic: I hate you |
| 09:22 | epic | OMG OMG OMG |
| 09:23 | epic | OMG OMG OMG |
| 09:23 | epic | chris: why |
| 09:23 | Tenkawa | epic: jeez chill dude |
| 09:23 | | * epic is spazzing out |
| 09:23 | chris | epic: If you can't figure it out on your own then there's no way I can explain it |
| 09:23 | epic | hm |
| 09:23 | epic | OMG |
| 09:23 | epic | ok |
| 09:23 | epic | sorry for uh... the OMG"s |
| 09:24 | Tenkawa | rmreconns is stupid command... |
| 09:24 | epic | heh |
| 09:24 | Tenkawa | someone needs to thwap whoever made that a seperate command in irssi |
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| 09:24 | epic | i need a nethack tutorial ;) |
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| 09:25 | Tenkawa | oops |
| 09:25 | Tenkawa | that was bad |
| 09:26 | Tenkawa | brb |
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| 09:28 | mrh | host11 seems to be stuck |
| 09:28 | Tenkawa | that was fun |
| 09:28 | @mikegrb | mrh: where are you stationed? I'm in charleston near the spawar center |
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| 09:29 | @mikegrb | mrh? |
| 09:29 | mrh | is host11 stuck? |
| 09:29 | @mikegrb | in what way? |
| 09:29 | Tenkawa | reading is obviously a lost art |
| 09:29 | @mikegrb | you work at a spawar? |
| 09:29 | lurq | anyone knows about IMP (email PHP client)? specifically: does it run on apache 2 ? |
| 09:29 | Tenkawa | or would that be paying attention |
| 09:29 | @mikegrb | sighup: netping host11.linode.com |
| 09:29 | @caker | mrh: taking a look |
| 09:29 | sighup | PING host11.linode.com (64.62.190.11) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 09:29 | sighup | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4034ms |
| 09:29 | sighup | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.450/0.637/1.104/0.251 ms |
| 09:30 | mrh | mikegrb, yes |
| 09:30 | @mikegrb | mrh: spiffy, I'm near spawar in charleston |
| 09:30 | Tenkawa | looks fine here |
| 09:30 | Tenkawa | 8 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 09:30 | Tenkawa | round-trip min/avg/max = 93.8/95.5/100.8 ms |
| 09:31 | mrh | san diego here |
| 09:31 | mrh | host11 network is fine but I can't login to my console or node. |
| 09:31 | n2linux | mrh: same here - can't login to console or node |
| 09:32 | n2linux | on host11, that is |
| 09:32 | Tenkawa | all ports connect refused |
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| 09:32 | Tenkawa | bummer |
| 09:33 | @mikegrb | well I spose caker is currently having a look-see then |
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| 09:38 | @caker | bah .. it's unresponsive to ssh .. totally disk I/O bound |
| 09:39 | @caker | I'll give it another few minutes |
| 09:40 | mrh | thanks |
| 09:40 | epic | sighup, netping epic |
| 09:40 | epic | heh |
| 09:40 | epic | sighup, netping www.google.com |
| 09:40 | sighup | PING www.google.akadns.net (216.239.39.104) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 09:40 | sighup | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4056ms |
| 09:40 | sighup | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 73.835/74.259/74.619/0.434 ms |
| 09:40 | @tjfontaine | don't abuse the bot |
| 09:40 | epic | sorry |
| 09:41 | epic | -t ;) |
| 09:44 | mrh | doesn't look too good... |
| 09:48 | epic | hey can someone please help me here, tinyurl.com/2fgya |
| 09:48 | chris | hrm, our other linode is rejecting all connections |
| 09:48 | epic | there is no way to get out of that dungeon.. |
| 09:48 | @caker | chris: which host is it on? |
| 09:49 | chris | caker: I can't tell, I don't have access to the control panel for that one |
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| 10:01 | --- | User: *** V is now known as Vee |
| 10:02 | --- | User: *** Vee is now known as V |
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| 10:02 | --- | User: *** V is now known as Vee |
| 10:02 | epic | absolute bs |
| 10:02 | epic | You have been playing for 2 hours. Your save doesnt matter, you died! |
| 10:02 | epic | WTF |
| 10:03 | @tjfontaine | WTF this isn't #nethack |
| 10:03 | epic | heh |
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| 10:03 | chris | yay |
| 10:03 | @tjfontaine | see how easy taht is? |
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| 10:03 | @tjfontaine | damn |
| 10:03 | epic | there is no #nethack |
| 10:03 | epic | lol |
| 10:03 | @tjfontaine | yes there is |
| 10:03 | @tjfontaine | look again |
| 10:04 | epic | chris just left |
| 10:04 | chris | I found it |
| 10:04 | epic | yeah |
| 10:04 | chris | 45 users |
| 10:04 | epic | there arent >2 people in it |
| 10:04 | epic | wtf |
| 10:04 | epic | Total of 1 nicks 1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, |
| 10:04 | epic | 0 normal |
| 10:04 | epic | #nethack |
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| 10:08 | epic | check this out, www.happypenguin.org/show?noeGNUd |
| 10:08 | | * Vee pokes the unconcious carcass of Efudd |
| 10:10 | @tjfontaine | WTF this isn't #nethack |
| 10:10 | Vee | chris, we're running nagios to monitor some other servers from our linode. Seems that lately at ~6:30 every morning it's having trouble pinging the host (66.220.1.1).. Is there something intensive running around that time frame? |
| 10:11 | epic | nagios is awesome |
| 10:11 | schweeb | it's a PITA to configure initially |
| 10:11 | chris | Vee: nothing on our end. The most intensive thing we do is get mail from that server every 10-15 minutes |
| 10:11 | Vee | chris, "we" are cavok btw, and we dont remember the password to login *blush* |
| 10:14 | @tjfontaine | hwh |
| 10:14 | @tjfontaine | er |
| 10:14 | @tjfontaine | heh |
| 10:16 | epic | anynone want to play an online game with me? its called 0verkill... http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~brain/0verkill |
| 10:16 | epic | its via console, text-based game |
| 10:16 | @tjfontaine | "shall we play a game" |
| 10:17 | @caker | tictactoe > * |
| 10:17 | epic | hehe |
| 10:17 | @tjfontaine | I don't even think you know what we're talking about epic |
| 10:17 | @mikegrb | no! global thermo nuclear war |
| 10:17 | @mikegrb | let's play that |
| 10:17 | epic | tjfontaine: you want to play? |
| 10:17 | epic | i dont :) |
| 10:17 | @mikegrb | joshua? |
| 10:18 | @tjfontaine | no I don't want to play epic |
| 10:18 | epic | k |
| 10:18 | chris | tjfontaine: It's a shame that someone could miss that reference =/ |
| 10:18 | Newsome | did I hear anything about free linode upgrades for everyone on host11...... :) |
| 10:18 | @tjfontaine | chris: aye it's true |
| 10:18 | @mikegrb | Newsome: no, host 10 |
| 10:18 | epic | why? |
| 10:18 | @mikegrb | chris: what reference? |
| 10:18 | epic | oh, downtime :) |
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| 10:18 | @mikegrb | ;) |
| 10:18 | @caker | Newsome: how about a free reboot? |
| 10:18 | Newsome | hmm. Well, host11 is having problems. |
| 10:18 | Newsome | that would be wonderful! :) |
| 10:18 | @mikegrb | caker: pwahaha |
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| 10:19 | epg | host11 is down? |
| 10:19 | @caker | host11 is maxxed |
| 10:19 | Newsome | it isn't up |
| 10:19 | epg | any ETA on resurrection? |
| 10:19 | @caker | I'm on a shell right now but it's not giving me the love -- disk I/O contention problem |
| 10:19 | @caker | epg: is it totally useless? |
| 10:20 | epg | well, |
| 10:20 | epg | 1 ~% ssh epg@host11.linode.com ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
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| 10:20 | @caker | what about to your node? |
| 10:20 | epg | no response |
| 10:20 | @caker | ok .. give me 15 minutes |
| 10:20 | Newsome | pings, but no response on ports |
| 10:20 | chris | No response on mine either, so I assume that one is on 11 as well |
| 10:20 | Dee | Hey |
| 10:20 | | * caker prepares for reboot |
| 10:21 | epg | thanks |
| 10:21 | | * epg will check in later |
| 10:21 | Newsome | thank you much! |
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| 10:21 | @caker | ... going to give 2.6 a try on it first |
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| 10:22 | Dee | Hey - quick question for you - is there problems this afternoon? |
| 10:23 | @tjfontaine | host11? |
| 10:23 | Dee | 3, I think..? |
| 10:24 | | * caker reboots host11 |
| 10:25 | EFudd | hey |
| 10:25 | EFudd | what? |
| 10:25 | EFudd | :) |
| 10:25 | @tjfontaine | someone poked your carcas |
| 10:25 | Dee | Wasn't me :) |
| 10:25 | | * Dee grins |
| 10:25 | EFudd | --- mostly.broked.net ping statistics --- |
| 10:25 | EFudd | 11 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9999ms |
| 10:25 | | * EFudd mumbles |
| 10:29 | Dee | 'tis host 11 - my bad :) |
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| 10:39 | chris | hrmm |
| 10:39 | chris | caker: do nodes come back up when you reboot? |
| 10:39 | @mikegrb | if they were up before the reboot |
| 10:39 | @mikegrb | but they are staggered a bit so they don't all try to reboot at once |
| 10:40 | | * tjfontaine reb00ts mikegrb |
| 10:40 | | * mikegrb boots tjfontaine |
| 10:41 | EFudd | (awstats looks > webalizer btw) |
| 10:41 | @tjfontaine | link? |
| 10:41 | chris | It is |
| 10:41 | chris | I've used it for a while, it's nice |
| 10:41 | EFudd | google |
| 10:41 | EFudd | :) |
| 10:42 | @tjfontaine | awstats.sf.net is all oyu had to say |
| 10:42 | EFudd | google was shorter. |
| 10:42 | EFudd | (and actually. my comment + rebuttal was shorter! but this kinda isn't.) |
| 10:42 | chris | 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss |
| 10:42 | @tjfontaine | :-) |
| 10:42 | chris | weeeeee |
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| 10:44 | @tjfontaine | neat mail logs |
| 10:44 | EFudd | petersonindustries-petersonindustries-psr1410140.z10-89-67.customer.algx.net 1 1 14758881 20040127112912 |
| 10:44 | | * EFudd ponders |
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| 10:52 | EFudd | bleh |
| 10:52 | EFudd | interland trying to offer me free setup, half TB/month xfer, etc.. but alas, stupid redhat 9 only |
| 10:53 | @tjfontaine | isn't that frustrating? |
| 10:53 | @tjfontaine | I refuse to use a colo box that doesnt have at least debian :-) |
| 10:54 | EFudd | Yeah. it is kinda frustrating. |
| 10:54 | EFudd | PING mostly.broked.net (64.62.190.154) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 10:54 | sighup | mostly: ping! ping! ping! |
| 10:54 | sighup | I haven't seen 'mostly', EFudd |
| 10:54 | EFudd | .... |
| 10:54 | EFudd | given that as an example. |
| 10:55 | @mikegrb | sighup: netping mostly.broked.net |
| 10:55 | @mikegrb | heh |
| 10:55 | sighup | PING mostly.broked.net (64.62.190.154) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 10:55 | sighup | 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4082ms |
| 10:55 | sighup | , pipe 3 |
| 10:55 | @mikegrb | and yeah I know you weren't trying to ping it |
| 10:55 | EFudd | :) |
| 10:56 | EFudd | Your Linode is currently |
| 10:56 | EFudd | Running |
| 10:56 | | * EFudd blinks |
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| 10:57 | epic | Presario 1500, 30gb HD, 256mb RAM, linux-compaitable :)) |
| 10:57 | jotun | anyone particularly like sendmail? wish to help? |
| 10:57 | jotun | i have a problem with mailtertable. |
| 10:57 | chris | I don't think *anyone* will admit to liking sendmail |
| 10:57 | EFudd | cringe. |
| 10:57 | epic | get postfix |
| 10:57 | epic | i like postfix... |
| 10:58 | chris | yes, but you say "WTF" and "OMG" constantly |
| 10:58 | epic | hmm |
| 10:58 | epic | whats omg? |
| 10:58 | jotun | i try to forward mail to another machine, but the machine I'd like to forward from is the machine e-mail is being sent to, so it's like it's giving up on it |
| 10:58 | jotun | deciding that it's reached its destination and doesn't need to forward |
| 10:58 | @caker | EFudd: running now? |
| 10:58 | EFudd | sighup: netping mostly.broked.net |
| 10:59 | sighup | PING mostly.broked.net (64.62.190.154) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 10:59 | sighup | 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4135ms |
| 10:59 | sighup | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.899/1.163/1.685/0.286 ms |
| 10:59 | dmp | sighup: netping dmp.org.uk |
| 10:59 | EFudd | Yah. |
| 10:59 | EFudd | so what hosted host11? |
| 10:59 | sighup | PING dmp.org.uk (66.220.1.196) 56(84) bytes of data. |
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