| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 17 00:00:12 2004 |
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| 00:16 | chris | Now I remember why I liked php more than cgi scripts, for some reason I always fail at getting perl working in apache |
| 00:23 | mikegrb | FYI: rsync over ssh is faster then scp over ssh even when only transfering one really big file |
| 00:23 | mikegrb | several times faster |
| 00:23 | mikegrb | that is all |
| 00:24 | chris | If I set ExecCGI in a <directory> do I also need to scriptalias it? |
| 00:24 | mikegrb | depends |
| 00:24 | chris | hrmm, got it working |
| 00:24 | mikegrb | is that dir available? |
| 00:24 | chris | So... survey says: yes |
| 00:25 | mikegrb | ie if your docroot is /var/www/htdocs and you want cgi in /var/www/htdocs/cgi-bin then just setting execgi on the second path is enough |
| 00:26 | mikegrb | but if you take the better route and make cgi-bin be /var/www/cgi-bin you need a script alias to point to /var/www/cgi-bin and an ExecCGI |
| 00:26 | mikegrb | nice 4.16MB/s |
| 00:26 | mikegrb | for rsync, scp was 800KB/s |
| 00:28 | EFudd | + 4 Feb 17 Remote distributio (8,424K) files updated by rdist from csserv to |
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| 00:46 | chris | hrmm |
| 00:47 | chris | Why does ScriptAliasing block all files in the directories (and nested dirs) that aren't cgi? |
| 00:49 | schweeb | try a regular alias |
| 00:50 | chris | Wouldn't a regular alias no longer allow execution of the cgi scripts? |
| 00:52 | schweeb | I'm guessing scriptaliases only intercept calls to scripts |
| 00:52 | schweeb | therefore ignoring things like images |
| 00:53 | chris | So I should split the cgi and images into seperate dirs then |
| 00:53 | schweeb | yea, good idea anyways |
| 00:53 | schweeb | your CGI directories should have pretty strict acls |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | Comments on http://eelf.ddts.net/~dbharris/backups.txt? |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | Err, sorry. |
| 00:54 | ElectricElf | http://eelf.ddts.net/~dbharris/temp/backups.txt |
| 00:56 | schweeb | looks reasonable |
| 00:58 | ElectricElf | Cool. |
| 00:58 | schweeb | urgh |
| 00:58 | schweeb | I'm currently trying to put an idea to code. guess this is the hard part |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Hm, were you going to post something about backups? |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | schweeb: I think I just remembered that you were :| |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Didn't meant to step on your toes or anything. |
| 00:59 | schweeb | I was going to, but I've become lazy and complacent |
| 00:59 | schweeb | so, the usual |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Was just writing down some notes, and it kind of expanded, and by the time I was done I had completely forgotten :) |
| 00:59 | schweeb | just empty promises |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | lol |
| 00:59 | ElectricElf | schweeb: You bastard! |
| 01:00 | ElectricElf | schweeb: You promised me we were going to Florida! |
| 01:00 | schweeb | "sure I'll write an LDAP article for Ars Technica" |
| 01:00 | schweeb | 6 months later... not much farther than I was 5 months ago |
| 01:00 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah, you're telling me. |
| 01:00 | ElectricElf | schweeb: I think I still have CVS commit access to that repo. |
| 01:01 | ElectricElf | Hah, hell no :) |
| 01:01 | schweeb | yea, whip isn't very good with access controls |
| 01:01 | ElectricElf | Well, good for them, I haven't done anything at all except for a few grammar changes, so I certainly didn't need the account. |
| 01:01 | schweeb | hehe |
| 01:02 | mikegrb | ~ |
| 01:02 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: $HOME |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | ~yeah |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Comments on http://localhost/~dbharris/temp/backups.txt? |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | I am at home |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | was just going to pull it up ;) |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | lol |
| 01:03 | ElectricElf | mikegrb++ |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | I got me a hardware mpeg card today!!! |
| 01:03 | mikegrb | mythtv++ is even sweeter now |
| 01:04 | mikegrb | but not localhost ;) |
| 01:06 | schweeb | has anyone in here ever seen a PCMCIA Bluetooth receiver anywhere? |
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| 01:07 | ElectricElf | schweeb: I've seen a USB one, at least. |
| 01:07 | schweeb | dongle = teh devil |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | Not dongle. |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | Stiff. |
| 01:07 | ElectricElf | Dunno what we call those. |
| 01:07 | schweeb | even worse ;) |
| 01:08 | ElectricElf | http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=906 |
| 01:08 | schweeb | I want something I can leave connected to my laptop, even when it's in the bag |
| 01:08 | ElectricElf | CF and USB only. |
| 01:08 | schweeb | bummer |
| 01:08 | ElectricElf | That's a pretty good place, too, they've got a wide variety. |
| 01:08 | schweeb | yea, I've known of tigerdirect for many years now |
| 01:08 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Ah, a fellow tigerdirect fan :) |
| 01:08 | schweeb | never actually /bought/ |
| 01:09 | | * ElectricElf has bought to occasionall odd and end. |
| 01:09 | schweeb | I'm a newegg/googlegear kinda guy |
| 01:09 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Does newegg ship to Canada? |
| 01:09 | schweeb | not sure |
| 01:09 | ElectricElf | schweeb: (tigerdirect was originally Misco, which was originally Canadian. Think it's still primarily Canadian, too.) |
| 01:09 | schweeb | I've never had to ship to canoodia |
| 01:09 | ElectricElf | At least I think. |
| 01:09 | ElectricElf | At least, I was getting their catalogues when I was 6. |
| 01:10 | ElectricElf | Not many American companies selling this sort of thing would be sending catalogues to Canadians in 1984. |
| 01:10 | schweeb | heh |
| 01:10 | schweeb | so, you're 6 yrs older than I am, eh? |
| 01:10 | mcowger | can I ask a favor of those in the room? I'd like you to go to this URL: http://www.plu.edu/directories/ Then, see if it looks like this: http://www.cowger.us/untitled.JPG (as in, the image overlapping). If you could tell me the result, and which browser you are using (and date if a nightly)? |
| 01:10 | ElectricElf | Er, 1986 |
| 01:10 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Brainfart. |
| 01:10 | schweeb | heh |
| 01:11 | ElectricElf | mcowger: It's not "right", but it's not as bad as you've got in IE there. |
| 01:11 | schweeb | you're what, 23 or 24? |
| 01:11 | mcowger | thats actually in Firefox |
| 01:11 | ElectricElf | Oh, cool. |
| 01:11 | ElectricElf | schweeb: Yeah. |
| 01:11 | ElectricElf | schweeb: One of the two :) 23 I think. |
| 01:11 | schweeb | lol |
| 01:12 | mcowger | problem im having is that it looks pretty decent in EVERY BUT the latest version of foirefix (for the past 2 months worth of nightlies)...doesn |
| 01:12 | mcowger | it doesn't have the problem in Mozilla 1.6 though, for example |
| 01:12 | mikegrb | host, so being able to browser and read my local copy of the files |
| 01:12 | mikegrb | under conclusion section 5 |
| 01:12 | mikegrb | s/browser/browse/ |
| 01:12 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: I've a great deal of respect for people who make decent-looking sites that look decent in all browsers :) |
| 01:12 | ElectricElf | s/mikegrb/mcowger/ |
| 01:13 | ElectricElf | (mikegrb has heard that at least a dozen times now, I'm sure.) |
| 01:13 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Thanks. |
| 01:13 | mikegrb | no problem |
| 01:13 | mikegrb | and yes |
| 01:13 | mikegrb | and I have respect for them too :p |
| 01:13 | mikegrb | and try to do it my self |
| 01:14 | mikegrb | looks good |
| 01:14 | mcowger | ElectricElf - I didn't design the site, but the plan for the PLU site was that it look good in everything since Netscape 4.77, including Opera, IE, Moz, Firebird, even Palms) |
| 01:14 | mikegrb | might link to a howto for each method |
| 01:14 | mikegrb | if they are easy to find |
| 01:14 | ElectricElf | mcowger: Damned tall order :) |
| 01:14 | mikegrb | so a person can read your doc, decide which method to use |
| 01:15 | mcowger | they've done it pretty well |
| 01:15 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Don't really think there are any, actually. |
| 01:15 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Nothing that'd be easy to find, though, I've checked :| |
| 01:15 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Might be a good project though, if you're looking ;) |
| 01:15 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: On the other hand, I only covered well-documented options. |
| 01:15 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Except for 'dd', which is only included to bash it. :) |
| 01:16 | mikegrb | 24 packets transmitted, 10 received, 58% packet loss, time 23006ms |
| 01:16 | mikegrb | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 84.939/139.929/205.256/54.813 ms |
| 01:17 | mikegrb | I wrote a howto for rdiff-backup :D |
| 01:21 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Hah, forgot about that :) |
| 01:21 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: mini-HOWTO though ;) |
| 01:22 | ElectricElf | mikegrb: Still, like I said, it's relatively immature. It's really tar and rsync that I'd include HOWTO links for. |
| 01:29 | schweeb | god, I suck at programming :-/ |
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| 02:00 | mcowger | So, my linode runs gentoo...any suggestions on pruning the size of my base system? |
| 02:06 | mikegrb | emerge debian? |
| 02:06 | mikegrb | :p |
| 02:06 | mikegrb | actually look at the bottom of make.conf |
| 02:06 | mcowger | i tried debian - hated it |
| 02:07 | mikegrb | there is a commented variable that defines an rsync excludes file |
| 02:07 | mcowger | you mean my USE variable? already trimmed |
| 02:07 | mcowger | oh, ok |
| 02:07 | mcowger | will tryu that |
| 02:07 | mikegrb | in this file you put one per line stuff to not rsync |
| 02:07 | mikegrb | like: X and games and stuff |
| 02:07 | mikegrb | I use category names (which are the same as the dir names) |
| 02:08 | mcowger | ok, will give that a try - thanks for the tip |
| 02:08 | mikegrb | after you have these listed you can rm -r that dir under /usr/portage |
| 02:08 | mikegrb | actually I can dcc you mine if you want? |
| 02:08 | mcowger | would be great |
| 02:09 | mcowger | thanks |
| 02:09 | mikegrb | that will give you something to start with |
| 02:10 | mikegrb | you could just rm the dir's under /usr/portage but every time you emerge sync it will transfer them again |
| 02:10 | mcowger | yeah..thats what im used to with fBSD |
| 02:10 | mikegrb | a waist of bandwidth for both you and the nice people that sponser the server |
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| 05:12 | nirvanis | hi |
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| 07:44 | lurq | how many linodes are there in use right now? |
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| 08:16 | epic | \ |
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| 08:18 | chris|lt | hrmm |
| 08:18 | chris|lt | I'm having no luck finding the dns settings on godaddy |
| 08:19 | | * chris|lt doesn't see the total dns management~ link |
| 08:21 | SupaDongzu | Perhaps there is a problem with your drive geometry |
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| 08:21 | SupaDongzu | Oh. |
| 08:22 | epic | heh |
| 08:23 | epic | nethack owns ;) |
| 08:23 | SupaDongzu | Yes. |
| 08:23 | SupaDongzu | Yes it does. |
| 08:23 | epic | i cant get passed level 2 :( |
| 08:23 | SupaDongzu | and then you get mail |
| 08:24 | epic | eh? |
| 08:24 | epic | mail from the game? |
| 08:24 | SupaDongzu | no |
| 08:24 | SupaDongzu | you get e-mail |
| 08:24 | SupaDongzu | and nethack knows |
| 08:24 | epic | yeah thats what i meant |
| 08:24 | epic | wtf |
| 08:24 | epic | r u joking? |
| 08:24 | SupaDongzu | no |
| 08:24 | SupaDongzu | I take it you've never played on a system where you received mail |
| 08:24 | epic | no... |
| 08:25 | SupaDongzu | a fairy comes and gives you a scroll of mail |
| 08:25 | chris|lt | He must not realize how easy it is to check mail status for a user on a *nix box |
| 08:25 | epic | mailx |
| 08:25 | epic | :) |
| 08:25 | SupaDongzu | when you read it, it runs mailx |
| 08:25 | SupaDongzu | yep |
| 08:25 | epic | thats awesome |
| 08:25 | chris|lt | I bet godaddy requires the nameserver changes to resolve before I can fsck with the dns |
| 08:25 | dmp | I have bit problems with godaddy |
| 08:26 | dmp | my domain is ro-guilds.org |
| 08:26 | dmp | but it will not let me put ns1.ro-guilds.org ns2.ro-guilds.org as DNS servers |
| 08:26 | dmp | I dont get why |
| 08:26 | epic | debian :) |
| 08:26 | chris|lt | I pray ro doesn't have the word "ragnarok" in it |
| 08:26 | dmp | it's not my site |
| 08:26 | mikegrb | dmp: have to add them first |
| 08:26 | dmp | it is one I host |
| 08:26 | dmp | mikegrb: add them to what? |
| 08:26 | mikegrb | er not as dns servers |
| 08:26 | dmp | they do resolve already |
| 08:26 | mikegrb | as hosts |
| 08:26 | mikegrb | right |
| 08:27 | SupaDongzu | haha |
| 08:27 | dmp | as hosts where? |
| 08:27 | SupaDongzu | um |
| 08:27 | mikegrb | but since it is the same domain you have to add them |
| 08:27 | dmp | mikegrb: add to where? |
| 08:27 | mikegrb | I don't remember what they call it |
| 08:27 | mikegrb | it is at the bottom of the thingie on the right |
| 08:27 | mikegrb | manage hosts or something like that |
| 08:27 | chris|lt | All these forum threads say once I set the nameservers to godaddy's parked servers a new menu option will appear, so far no luck with that |
| 08:29 | dmp | mikegrb: got it |
| 08:29 | mikegrb | \o/ |
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| 08:29 | dmp | stupid godaddy |
| 08:29 | sinned | my car isn't liking the winter at all |
| 08:29 | mikegrb | yup |
| 08:30 | sinned | dmp, godaddy's dns configuration stuff is awful |
| 08:30 | mikegrb | yup |
| 08:30 | sinned | it took me weeks for them to get a .be domain i registered to use its own dns |
| 08:30 | SupaDongzu | just don't use DNS |
| 08:30 | SupaDongzu | instead, make helpful mnemonics for your IP address |
| 08:30 | mikegrb | SupaDongzu: yeah |
| 08:30 | sinned | hehe |
| 08:30 | SupaDongzu | and tell them to all your friends! |
| 08:30 | chris|lt | Guess I'll use zoneedit for now.... |
| 08:30 | SupaDongzu | 86.75.30.9 |
| 08:31 | mikegrb | hehehehehe |
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| 08:35 | chris|lt | hrmmm |
| 08:35 | chris|lt | Or I could run my own bind |
| 08:35 | chris|lt | Of course I haven't done that before, it'd be something interesting to play with |
| 08:37 | SupaDongzu | it's not so hard as all that |
| 08:37 | SupaDongzu | if your needs are less complicated, you can use one of the alternatives |
| 08:37 | SupaDongzu | but bind has yet to be replaced |
| 08:37 | SupaDongzu | only rewritten |
| 08:38 | sinned | nsd rules |
| 08:39 | chris|lt | For simple dns (just one domain, some subs too) would you recommend bind or something simpler? |
| 08:39 | sinned | http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/nsd/ |
| 08:40 | SupaDongzu | sinned, it appears, has an opinion |
| 08:40 | SupaDongzu | me, I tried maradns for kicks a while back |
| 08:40 | SupaDongzu | but pissed off all my slave hosts |
| 08:40 | SupaDongzu | something about the AXFRs following the RFC instead of common practice |
| 08:40 | sinned | damn |
| 08:40 | SupaDongzu | but if you're only going to host one domain |
| 08:41 | sinned | you'd think they'd write dns servers to at least accept rfc-compliant software |
| 08:41 | SupaDongzu | and don't need to do much |
| 08:41 | sinned | even if they don't follow the rfc by default |
| 08:41 | SupaDongzu | well |
| 08:41 | SupaDongzu | I think there are later rfcs |
| 08:41 | SupaDongzu | that define most of bind's behavior |
| 08:41 | SupaDongzu | and quirks |
| 08:41 | sinned | AXFR ought to be pretty standard by now |
| 08:41 | SupaDongzu | but a lot of security patches have broken the old protocols over time |
| 08:42 | SupaDongzu | anyway |
| 08:42 | sinned | i thought that'swhy they came up with IXFR |
| 08:42 | sinned | to not have to break traditional AXFR behaviors |
| 08:42 | SupaDongzu | maradns is great if you're running maradns on the slave as well |
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| 08:43 | epic | hm |
| 08:43 | SupaDongzu | keep trying epic |
| 08:44 | SupaDongzu | what are you trying to do? |
| 08:44 | epic | im trying to load blowfish encryption (blowjob.pl) |
| 08:44 | SupaDongzu | ?? |
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| 08:47 | mikegrb | I wonder what he has to say that is so important only he is to know |
| 08:47 | SupaDongzu | I know. |
| 08:47 | mikegrb | thant and I wonder if he knows he can unload and reload scripts with out closing the client |
| 08:47 | SupaDongzu | [ENCRYPTED MESSAGE] |
| 08:47 | mikegrb | [ENCRYPTED MESSAGE] |
| 08:47 | SupaDongzu | once I went into a channel |
| 08:47 | SupaDongzu | that was doing that |
| 08:48 | SupaDongzu | and I thought it was hilarious |
| 08:48 | SupaDongzu | so I kept typing |
| 08:48 | mikegrb | and it was ghey? |
| 08:48 | SupaDongzu | [ENCRYPTED MESSAGE] |
| 08:48 | mikegrb | heh |
| 08:48 | SupaDongzu | and then someone msg'd me and said "wrong key" |
| 08:48 | mikegrb | did they get angry? |
| 08:48 | mikegrb | hahahaha |
| 08:48 | SupaDongzu | it was a self-reinforcing troll |
| 08:49 | mikegrb | I would like to see epic there make some posts on the linux-elitests mailing list |
| 08:49 | SupaDongzu | haha |
| 08:50 | | * chris|lt notes bind's config file is pretty cryptic |
| 08:51 | SupaDongzu | it is at that |
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| 09:09 | lurq | how many linodes are there in use right now? on how many hosts? |
| 09:09 | SupaDongzu | sighup: linode availability |
| 09:09 | sighup | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 2] [Linode 96: 5] [Linode 128: 0] [Linode 192: 5] [Linode 256: 5] |
| 09:10 | lurq | ok, but how many are in use? |
| 09:10 | lurq | I'm interested in how many are runninga each distro -- are those numbers available? |
| 09:11 | lurq | like, what's the percentage running gentoo (like me)? |
| 09:11 | chris|lt | gentoo on a uml box is crazy |
| 09:11 | chris|lt | CRAZY! |
| 09:11 | | * lurq is crazy |
| 09:12 | lurq | why would gentoo be extra crazy on a uml box? |
| 09:12 | lurq | (except for slow compiles, of course...) |
| 09:12 | chris|lt | Slow compiles basically |
| 09:12 | chris|lt | On a slow box I'll definitely use a package based distro |
| 09:12 | lurq | ah. got it. |
| 09:13 | lurq | yeah, but as one of the best uses of a linode i learning, that's what I'm doing. |
| 09:13 | lurq | s/i/is/ |
| 09:13 | chris|lt | I have enough systems of my own that I want to use the linode for something else :) |
| 09:15 | lurq | I'm thinking about setting up a uml system for my self, to play around with. are the control panel apps that linode.com use free? |
| 09:15 | chris|lt | Linode's control panel is proprietary, caker made it |
| 09:15 | chris|lt | To my knowledge he isn't giving it away |
| 09:16 | lurq | ok, fair enough. are there any free alternatives? |
| 09:16 | chris|lt | Not sure, never looked into it |
| 09:16 | blahrus | www.vsacs.com |
| 09:16 | lurq | I'd like to "simulate" the whole linode.com experience in my living room... Just For Fun... |
| 09:16 | blahrus | 10 domians for free. |
| 09:16 | blahrus | www.webmin.com |
| 09:17 | blahrus | ohhh to run your own uml? |
| 09:17 | lurq | yup |
| 09:17 | blahrus | good luck :) |
| 09:17 | lurq | thx... |
| 09:18 | lurq | I'm thinking about offering uml nodes on my XBOX for friends, just to show off... :-) |
| 09:18 | lurq | but I want the whole user friendly package on top of it! |
| 09:19 | chris|lt | hrmm |
| 09:19 | chris|lt | If I have a A record for my domain -> linode ip and no other records (no CNAME), can I still setup subdomains / vhosts in apache? |
| 09:19 | chris|lt | Or do those need CNAME entries? |
| 09:21 | adamg | hi all |
| 09:23 | adamg | sighup change 1 gbp to usd |
| 09:23 | sighup | adamg: 1 British Pound makes 1.91 U.S. Dollar |
| 09:23 | adamg | looking good, for me anyway |
| 09:23 | --- | <<-- chris|lt [~chris@freedom.cis.ohio-state.edu] has quit (Quit: Leaving) |
| 09:23 | --- | ---> Devboy [~c30a79fe@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode |
| 09:23 | adamg | hi Devboy |
| 09:23 | Devboy | Hi, im looking for help with ProFTP |
| 09:23 | Devboy | server |
| 09:24 | blahrus | lurq: good luck getting the uml kerenl working on a xbox |
| 09:24 | Devboy | XBOX rules, i know where u can get games if u r intrested |
| 09:24 | lurq | yeah I know -- just daydreaming, not really serious. would be fun, though. |
| 09:24 | lurq | anyways, back to reality. |
| 09:25 | blahrus | it would be sweet |
| 09:25 | blahrus | my friend uses his xbox to rip dvd's |
| 09:26 | Devboy | Yeah xboxs are amazing little toys, i have setup a torrent woebsite deadicated tot he xbox here: www.xtorrents.com :) |
| 09:26 | lurq | question: I started a "emerge --deep --update world" on my gentoo linode like five hours ago... how can I let it continue in the background now that I have to log off? |
| 09:26 | adamg | you cant |
| 09:26 | Devboy | Now, does anyone know how to ebale root to be able to access files via FTP in ProFTPD |
| 09:26 | adamg | you should have ran it in screen |
| 09:26 | lurq | conceptually, I want to do "nohup bg", but that won't work... |
| 09:26 | mikegrb | Devboy: not a good idea |
| 09:26 | adamg | Devboy, why would you want to do that |
| 09:27 | Devboy | So i can edit the http server files, or is there anotherway? |
| 09:27 | lurq | adamg: sorry, what do you mean "in screen"? |
| 09:27 | adamg | que mikegrb |
| 09:27 | adamg | there is a program called screen |
| 09:27 | adamg | which is a persistant shell |
| 09:27 | SupaDongzu | and it r0x |
| 09:27 | Devboy | so i should use screen? |
| 09:27 | mikegrb | Devboy: create a user to own the webpages |
| 09:27 | lurq | adamg: ok, thx. I'll look into that (for next time...) |
| 09:28 | SupaDongzu | everyone should |
| 09:28 | adamg | lurq: emerge screen |
| 09:28 | mikegrb | SupaDongzu: just use screen! |
| 09:28 | mikegrb | er |
| 09:28 | mikegrb | sighup: just use screen! |
| 09:28 | sighup | mikegrb: excuse me? |
| 09:28 | adamg | then screen to start it up and then to get it back screen -r |
| 09:28 | mikegrb | bah |
| 09:28 | SupaDongzu | lolz |
| 09:28 | SupaDongzu | sighup: screen |
| 09:28 | sighup | screen is great! screen gives me a blowjob every morning to wake me up! screen cooks my emergency bacon! Thank you, SupaDongzu, for telling me about screen! I'm all pr0n0 for screen!!!! |
| 09:29 | SupaDongzu | screen -RAD |
| 09:29 | mikegrb | bah! |
| 09:29 | SupaDongzu | that is all you need to know |
| 09:29 | --- | <<-- shakr [~kenn2@66.160.128.164] has quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 09:29 | lurq | ...but there's no way to hand my current "emerge world" over to any kind of persistent shell, or similar? |
| 09:29 | SupaDongzu | it's RAD |
| 09:29 | adamg | no |
| 09:30 | lurq | darn it to heck |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | here's my .screenrc: |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | defbce on |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | defscrollback 5000 |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | vbell off |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | hardstatus on |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | caption always "%{= dy}%H: %-w%{+b Y}%n %t%{-}%+w%<" |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | hardstatus string "%H: %t (%n)" |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | escape ^]] |
| 09:30 | SupaDongzu | It is teh justice |
| 09:31 | Devboy | mikegrb u have a pm |
| 09:31 | | * mikegrb escapes SupaDongzu |
| 09:31 | mikegrb | Devboy: my client doesn't display pm's from people not on a list |
| 09:31 | mikegrb | what's up? |
| 09:31 | SupaDongzu | mikegrb: install mencal |
| 09:31 | lurq | anyone knows what happens if I Ctrl-C my emerge? will it pick up from where I stopped it, next time? |
| 09:31 | Devboy | o |
| 09:31 | Devboy | hi, how would u suggest i do that? give its home directory /var/www ?? |
| 09:31 | SupaDongzu | lurq: it'll restart the currently building package |
| 09:31 | lurq | SupaDongzu: good enough. thx. |
| 09:32 | Devboy | if so how would i go about doing that? because adduser creates a default dir: /home/username |
| 09:32 | SupaDongzu | http://www.kyberdigi.cz/projects/mencal/ <-- BEST LINUCKS SOFTWARE EVER |
| 09:32 | mikegrb | Devboy: well you could "chown -R devboy /var/www" |
| 09:32 | mikegrb | then login via ftp as you |
| 09:32 | Devboy | AHH |
| 09:33 | Devboy | YES! thanks it works great! |
| 09:33 | mikegrb | of course |
| 09:34 | mikegrb | SupaDongzu: saweet |
| 09:36 | SupaDongzu | it is a calendar for men |
| 09:37 | mikegrb | indeed |
| 09:37 | mikegrb | now just to get the details I need from teh wife |
| 09:39 | mikegrb | SupaDongzu: after that I shall run it at login, for her and me |
| 09:43 | @inkblot | i tried using ] as my screen escape character |
| 09:43 | @inkblot | but i stopped because i can do ^]^] single-handed |
| 09:44 | @inkblot | i.e. leaning back in the recliner with the laptop on the coffee table |
| 09:44 | SupaDongzu | ? |
| 09:44 | SupaDongzu | I can do it too |
| 09:44 | SupaDongzu | I have three ^ keys |
| 09:44 | @inkblot | oh, right |
| 09:44 | @inkblot | i keep forgetting about that one |
| 09:44 | | * inkblot shrugs |
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| 09:54 | adamg | Devboy: why do you need ftp anyway, scp it alot better |
| 09:56 | adamg | got damm fecking ms |
| 09:58 | dmp | use pscp, or whatever putty's scp client is |
| 09:59 | adamg | why the feck cant ms do anything right |
| 10:02 | mikegrb | to make you happy my dear |
| 10:02 | Devboy | adamg, scp??? |
| 10:03 | adamg | secure copy, part of ssh |
| 10:03 | Devboy | o right, i don't know anything about it |
| 10:04 | adamg | i am trying to sort out text based invoices, so I am putting in spaces to pad things out right, outlook express does not show it all lined up right, but copy the text into notepad and it is shown fine, in pine if is shown fine |
| 10:04 | Devboy | Outlook is crap! |
| 10:05 | @inkblot | Devboy, we know, thx |
| 10:05 | adamg | it has it's uses |
| 10:05 | | * mikegrb uses it to wipe the arse after going stinky |
| 10:05 | adamg | sighup linode forums |
| 10:05 | sighup | adamg: Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum: Can't get Apache Virtual Domain to Work; General Discussion: Memory limites; Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum: what will a UML-kernel do for you; Customer Testimonials: New member and Very Pleased.; General Discussion: Restricting my users |
| 10:07 | Devboy | CRAP! im runing out of space on my pc! only 9gb left, ill have to start using the 160gb on the xbox :( |
| 10:13 | | * lurq scrapped his gentoo and restarted with debian.... |
| 10:13 | adamg | there is nothing wrong with gentoo |
| 10:14 | lurq | adamg: yeah I know, I run it locally. But I'm not quite patient enough to run it on my linode 64... |
| 10:14 | Devboy | ahh |
| 10:14 | adamg | it runs fine on my L64 |
| 10:15 | adamg | it is just the inital emerge that takes a while |
| 10:15 | lurq | anyone knows how I can config my debian linode to run on "unstable" instead of "stable"? |
| 10:16 | adamg | just update the sources file to unstable |
| 10:16 | mikegrb | same as any other debian box :p |
| 10:17 | adamg | off to play games bbiab |
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| 10:21 | jake | anyone out there using sendmail using SSL authentication on fedora core? |
| 10:21 | lurq | mikegrb: sorry, I'm a debian semi-newbie. updating the sources-file, is that enough? do I have to do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade after that? or what? |
| 10:22 | Devboy | if u have just installed debian u need to update the apt otherwise it wont find the right servers |
| 10:24 | lurq | Devboy: so that's it? fix the sources file, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, and then I'm running "unstable"? |
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| 10:31 | @inkblot | lurq, yes |
| 10:32 | lurq | inkblot: great! thanks! |
| 10:32 | Devboy | sorry, yeah, i went to the shop |
| 10:33 | lurq | Devboy: np |
| 10:33 | lurq | while doing my update: "E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." |
| 10:33 | Devboy | some people, on here thought i was a complete newbie last night and said i have to give the root password out, and i said no you don't, and they replied who ever told you that is a complete moron because u do. LoL |
| 10:33 | Devboy | humm |
| 10:33 | dmp | it was worth a try |
| 10:34 | Devboy | lol u r here then hehehe |
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| 10:34 | dmp | ya |
| 10:34 | Devboy | hehe! u waiting to try and catch someone else out lol |
| 10:34 | dmp | of course |
| 10:35 | lurq | (my apt-get update) is that a problem? should I have done some clean-up after changing my sources-file to unstable? |
| 10:35 | dmp | one day it will work |
| 10:35 | dmp | ;) |
| 10:35 | lurq | if I give you my root passwd, will you answer my question? |
| 10:35 | lurq | :-P |
| 10:36 | dmp | sure |
| 10:38 | blahrus | passing out root passwords are we? |
| 10:38 | Devboy | yep |
| 10:38 | dmp | blahrus: Yes, I store them for people in a root passwd db |
| 10:38 | Devboy | mines devboy0987 |
| 10:38 | blahrus | haha |
| 10:38 | lurq | funny, so is mine |
| 10:38 | blahrus | lurq: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like??? |
| 10:38 | Devboy | lol cool |
| 10:38 | chris|lt | hrmmm |
| 10:39 | chris|lt | I suspect for each subdomain I need to add a CNAME (since they're all on the same ip) ? |
| 10:39 | lurq | blahrus: I took the original and did a sed s/stable/unstable/ on it |
| 10:39 | blahrus | yup |
| 10:39 | dmp | just add a * :) |
| 10:39 | dmp | lurq: remove the security.debian.org line too |
| 10:39 | blahrus | and you said thats not working? |
| 10:39 | dmp | I believe there are no updates to unstable there |
| 10:39 | dmp | which explains the error |
| 10:39 | chris|lt | Correct |
| 10:39 | blahrus | dmp: yup |
| 10:40 | lurq | dmp: ok |
| 10:40 | lurq | thx |
| 10:40 | blahrus | I find it kinda funny that this next to the gentoo community is one of the best for asking questions . . . . most places your get flamed or get told "google it" |
| 10:41 | mikegrb | here too |
| 10:41 | mikegrb | unless we are in an unusually giving mood |
| 10:41 | blahrus | yea but just doesn't seem as bad as some |
| 10:41 | chris|lt | dmp: So I need to add a @ CNAME to the domain? |
| 10:41 | dmp | to make foo.bar.com work? |
| 10:41 | blahrus | most of the time people just flame you for joing the room |
| 10:41 | chris|lt | aye |
| 10:41 | dmp | I just added a * |
| 10:41 | dmp | so *.bar.com works |
| 10:42 | chris|lt | Are you talking about in apache or in the dns configuration? |
| 10:42 | dmp | dns |
| 10:42 | chris|lt | Just making sure |
| 10:42 | dmp | wildcard |
| 10:42 | dmp | * A 66.220.1.196 |
| 10:42 | dmp | for example |
| 10:42 | dmp | ;) |
| 10:43 | chris|lt | hrmm, * goes in the name field correct? |
| 10:44 | chris|lt | Right now I have a @ A 69.56.173.217 |
| 10:44 | dmp | yea |
| 10:44 | chris|lt | hrmm, godaddy won't let me add a * |
| 10:45 | dmp | run your own dns server then |
| 10:45 | dmp | that's what I do |
| 10:45 | blahrus | yea don't use godaddy |
| 10:45 | mikegrb | or zoneedit |
| 10:45 | mikegrb | zoneedit will do it for free |
| 10:46 | @inkblot | movealong will do it for free, too |
| 10:46 | chris|lt | Any perks to using my own server over zoneedit (I did register a zoneedit account though) ? |
| 10:46 | @inkblot | chris|lt, full control |
| 10:46 | chris|lt | Aside from a working dns I guess I don't require much in the way of control |
| 10:46 | chris|lt | setting up bind / a chroot jail is probably overkill |
| 10:49 | schweeb | advantage - faster DNS restarts |
| 10:49 | chris|lt | godaddy takes forever to make any changes |
| 10:50 | schweeb | you can reload the second you make a change to your zone, and changes will start getting spread faster |
| 10:50 | Newsome | advantage: you get to log all the dns requests |
| 10:50 | mikegrb | zoneedit is pretty damn quick |
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| 10:50 | Newsome | advantage: you learn how to run a dns server |
| 10:50 | dmp | and it's really not that hard |
| 10:51 | mikegrb | yeah |
| 10:51 | mikegrb | even dmp can do it |
| 10:51 | dmp | :p |
| 10:51 | chris|lt | For now I'll set it up in zoneedit till I have the time to get bind going |
| 10:52 | chris|lt | ok, *.mydomain points to 69.56.173.217 now, just gotta wait for the dns to propagate |
| 10:53 | blahrus | chris|lt: isn't that always a fun wait |
| 10:53 | chris|lt | Always |
| 10:54 | chris|lt | I can't wait till ipv6, then I won't even be able to memorize the ip addresses |
| 10:54 | blahrus | its even more fun when your running your own name servers . . . . and you are at home and www.**********.com goes to the new IP but **************.com with out the www. still goes to the out IP |
| 10:54 | blahrus | ipv6 subnetting will be a blast |
| 10:55 | schweeb | that's why you just point www.*.com to *.com, and then only update the *.com entry |
| 10:55 | blahrus | never though of that for some reason |
| 10:56 | blahrus | have to see about switching it |
| 10:57 | Dave | dns servers will need updating/a new record anyway |
| 10:57 | Dave | due to 32bit addresses -> 128 bit addresses |
| 10:59 | | * mikegrb has ipv6 resolution goodness |
| 10:59 | blahrus | Dave: I do wonder how the switch is going to work, or will both be used? |
| 11:00 | Dave | i woudl imagine both |
| 11:00 | Dave | as the switch will occur gradually |
| 11:00 | Dave | and infact is already underway |
| 11:00 | mikegrb | [root@orion:michael] host -t aaaa thegrebs.com |
| 11:00 | mikegrb | thegrebs.com has AAAA address 2001:470:1f01:ffff::f7 |
| 11:00 | mikegrb | :p |
| 11:00 | blahrus | yahoo |
| 11:00 | blahrus | is ipv6 I think |
| 11:00 | Dave | thats a good point, i already knew AAAA records existed :) |
| 11:01 | blahrus | what ver of bind is needed? |
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| 11:01 | chris|lt | aha, reverse dns |
| 11:01 | mikegrb | blahrus: 8 and 9 both handle it |
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| 11:01 | mikegrb | beyond that I dunno |
| 11:02 | blahrus | cool |
| 11:02 | blahrus | mikegrb: no reason at all to mess with it yet |
| 11:02 | blahrus | but just kinda wondering |
| 11:02 | chris|lt | I'll have to look into getting reversedns working with my cgi:irc |
| 11:02 | dmp | i.am.a.lamer.with.rdns.com |
| 11:02 | mikegrb | make it be webuser.... and I can give you a script that will do spiffyness for you |
| 11:03 | mikegrb | 11:01:14 * chris|testing is freedom.cis.ohio-state.edu (164.107.116.183) |
| 11:03 | mikegrb | 11:01:14 ---| ---> chris|testing [~a46b74b7@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #linode |
| 11:03 | mikegrb | 11:01:26 chris|lt | aha, reverse dns |
| 11:03 | mikegrb | :) |
| 11:04 | chris|lt | I just don't want the long linode string if someone uses the cgi |
| 11:05 | @inkblot | [inkblot@goose:~]$ host 69.56.173.86 |
| 11:05 | @inkblot | Name: dorothy.movealong.org |
| 11:06 | @inkblot | "working with your cgi:irc"? |
| 11:06 | @inkblot | you understand that it's a totally separate thing, right? |
| 11:06 | chris|lt | yes |
| 11:06 | @inkblot | ok, good |
| 11:07 | chris|lt | I was just listing it as one of the reasons basicall |
| 11:07 | chris|lt | +y |
| 11:07 | | * chris|lt goes back to watching dns prop |
| 11:08 | | * inkblot goes back to pedalling the dynamo that powers chicago |
| 11:08 | mikegrb | you stopped! |
| 11:08 | @inkblot | UPS |
| 11:08 | mikegrb | what were you thinking! |
| 11:08 | mikegrb | oh |
| 11:08 | @inkblot | no worries |
| 11:08 | mikegrb | well no problem |
| 11:08 | mikegrb | indeed |
| 11:09 | @inkblot | +c blocks colors, right? |
| 11:09 | @inkblot | channel mode +c, that is |
| 11:09 | mikegrb | yes |
| 11:10 | @inkblot | any objections to unsetting it for a moment? |
| 11:10 | mikegrb | nope |
| 11:10 | @inkblot | :D |
| 11:10 | mikegrb | for your flag? |
| 11:10 | mikegrb | heh |
| 11:10 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [-c] by inkblot |
| 11:10 | @inkblot | <-- is |
| 11:10 | @inkblot | * * * * |
| 11:10 | @inkblot | chicago |
| 11:10 | blahrus | later |
| 11:10 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [+c] by inkblot |
| 11:10 | --- | <<-- blahrus [~042ea5b0@webuser.linode.com] has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC 0.5.3 (2003/10/29)) |
| 11:10 | mikegrb | heh |
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| 11:11 | @inkblot | ^-- ??? |
| 11:11 | @inkblot | the colors? |
| 11:11 | mikegrb | yes |
| 11:11 | @inkblot | ah ha |
| 11:11 | mikegrb | ti's colorful |
| 11:11 | @inkblot | no, i mean the cgi:irc quits |
| 11:11 | mikegrb | oh |
| 11:11 | mikegrb | no |
| 11:11 | @inkblot | oh, ok |
| 11:11 | mikegrb | though I'm curious how they show up |
| 11:11 | mikegrb | one sec |
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| 11:12 | notmikegrb | show me chicago |
| 11:12 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [-c] by inkblot |
| 11:12 | @inkblot | <-- is |
| 11:12 | @inkblot | * * * * |
| 11:12 | @inkblot | chicago |
| 11:12 | --- | Channel: mode/#linode [+c] by inkblot |
| 11:12 | adamg | arrah I hate banks |
| 11:12 | notmikegrb | wow they show up, to a degree |
| 11:12 | @inkblot | ha ha |
| 11:12 | @inkblot | excellent |
| 11:12 | | * notmikegrb makes screen-shot |
| 11:13 | notmikegrb | damn there are a lot of people in here |
| 11:13 | Devboy | I'm looking to install a firewall on debian has anyone got any suggestions on one to use? |
| 11:13 | chris|lt | iptables |
| 11:13 | Newsome | Pretty good. Now, let's see if you remember what the stars and blue bands represent... |
| 11:13 | chris|lt | ipchains |
| 11:13 | chris|lt | ipfw |
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| 11:14 | Dave | chris|lt: wrong term? |
| 11:14 | @inkblot | Newsome, they represent chicago-related stuff |
| 11:15 | Devboy | chris |
| 11:15 | Devboy | i have pmed u |
| 11:16 | Newsome | Right, the blue bands are the north and south branches of the Chicago river, and the stars are Fort Dearborn, The Great Chicago Fire, and the 2 Columbian Expositions. |
| 11:17 | @inkblot | interesting |
| 11:18 | mikegrb | inkblot: http://thegrebs.com/sshot.jpg |
| 11:19 | @inkblot | heh |
| 11:19 | mikegrb | just looks funny on white |
| 11:19 | @inkblot | yes, yes it does |
| 11:20 | mikegrb | should add a 1 char black border all around ;) |
| 11:21 | @inkblot | i'll decline that suggestion |
| 11:22 | mikegrb | of course |
| 11:22 | schweeb | mikegrb: windows @_@ |
| 11:22 | mikegrb | schweeb: work |
| 11:22 | schweeb | ;_; |
| 11:24 | | * schweeb tries to locate a reseller for HP Fuser Assemblies |
| 11:25 | | * mikegrb fuses schweeb |
| 11:25 | mikegrb | then heads off in search of food |
| 11:25 | schweeb | ouch |
| 11:25 | schweeb | $515 |
| 11:28 | dmp | fuses? |
| 11:28 | dmp | use nails |
| 11:28 | dmp | works for me |
| 11:28 | schweeb | fuser = laser printer part |
| 11:29 | dmp | ah |
| 11:29 | dmp | ;) |
| 11:29 | dmp | try nails anyway |
| 11:29 | dmp | might work |
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| 11:44 | mikegrb | what will a UML-kernel do for you? What is for and what can it do for me? |
| 11:44 | mikegrb | thanks |
| 11:44 | mikegrb | oh my |
| 11:44 | -!- | Irssi: Info: No bans in channel #linode |
| 11:44 | -!- | Irssi: #linode: Total of 36 nicks 4 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 32 normal |
| 11:45 | @inkblot | ha ha slacker |
| 11:46 | mikegrb | yup |
| 11:46 | mikegrb | inkblot: what is your rsync alias? |
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| 11:49 | @inkblot | mikegrb, ? |
| 11:49 | @inkblot | [inkblot@goose:~]$ alias | grep rsync |
| 11:49 | @inkblot | alias rsink='rsync -e ssh -rlzvP' |
| 11:49 | @inkblot | ^-- that one? |
| 11:49 | adamg | yeah I read that on the forum, doesnt really digniffy an answer |
| 11:50 | mikegrb | yeah think! |
| 11:50 | mikegrb | er' |
| 11:50 | mikegrb | thanks |
| 11:50 | @inkblot | ha ha |
| 11:51 | @inkblot | [inkblot@goose:~]$ alias | grep ssh | wc -l |
| 11:51 | @inkblot | 28 |
| 11:51 | @inkblot | [inkblot@goose:~]$ alias | grep screen | wc -l |
| 11:51 | @inkblot | 4 |
| 11:51 | mikegrb | heh |
| 11:51 | dmp | that can also catch greps |
| 11:51 | @inkblot | [inkblot@goose:~]$ alias | grep apt-get | wc -l |
| 11:51 |
