| --- | Log | opened Tue Jan 27 00:00:37 2004 |
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| 02:27 | * | mikegrb sets #linode +b Elf*!*@* |
| 03:03 | <@guinea-sleep> | :D |
| 03:04 | <@guinea-sleep> | Happy Birthday L. Carroll |
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| 06:01 | <NeXTer> | Morning |
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| 10:17 | <@adamg> | hi all |
| 10:17 | <jax> | morning |
| 10:17 | <schweeb> | snow sucks |
| 10:19 | <jax> | i hate it more each year |
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| 10:53 | <@caker> | morning |
| 10:53 | <blahrus> | morning to you |
| 10:53 | <blahrus> | how is the hosting world treating you today? |
| 10:54 | <@caker> | hehe not too bad |
| 10:54 | <blahrus> | oh yea and by the way . . . . . most of my troubles the last few days have been my isp |
| 10:54 | <@caker> | it is snowing here.. |
| 10:54 | <@caker> | ahh ok |
| 10:54 | <blahrus> | same here |
| 10:54 | <blahrus> | LOTS |
| 10:54 | <blahrus> | the last two days |
| 10:54 | * | tjfontaine has a snow day from college |
| 10:54 | <@caker> | east coast some where? |
| 10:54 | <@caker> | tjfontaine: Nice! |
| 10:54 | <@tjfontaine> | you know it |
| 10:55 | <blahrus> | wish I could have a snow day from work |
| 10:58 | <schweeb> | i should have worked from home |
| 11:04 | <blahrus> | we all should have |
| 11:04 | <schweeb> | I need to set up a VPN one of these days |
| 11:05 | <schweeb> | think I'll have to try OpenVPN out |
| 11:07 | <blahrus> | sounds good to me |
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| 11:36 | <blahrus> | later |
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| 11:55 | <ElfStone> | sighup: linode avail |
| 11:55 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 32] [Linode 96: 9] [Linode 128: 5] [Linode 192: 9] [Linode 256: 9] |
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| 12:39 | <@adamg> | hmm fecking scp |
| 12:40 | <@adamg> | Unknown cipher type '/data/apache/templates/HT/SS/english/Accounts' |
| 12:41 | <@adamg> | sorted |
| 12:41 | <@tjfontaine> | we love windows yes we.... er... |
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| 13:55 | <@caker> | ...MyDoom is a pain -- getting all sorts of emails |
| 13:58 | <schweeb> | my server is working overtime with its virus scanner |
| 13:58 | <@tjfontaine> | mine too |
| 13:58 | <schweeb> | load was at like 3.5 for a few ;_; |
| 14:00 | <@caker> | but its a server in AU that's doing most of it |
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| 14:01 | <@tjfontaine> | or in their web cache somewhere? |
| 14:01 | <@caker> | wow, it scrapes the browser cache? |
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| 14:52 | <blahrus> | boy has today been slow |
| 14:54 | <@caker> | yup |
| 14:54 | <blahrus> | how many servers are you up to now? |
| 14:54 | <@caker> | 16 online, one is here |
| 14:55 | <blahrus> | sweet |
| 14:55 | <eadz> | you can tell by pinging hostXX.linode.com.. :) |
| 14:55 | <blahrus> | HEHEHE |
| 14:55 | <blahrus> | where do you get your boxes from? |
| 14:55 | <eadz> | first host16 will resolve.. then later it will respond ;) |
| 14:55 | <@caker> | eadz: you're good |
| 14:55 | <@caker> | blahrus: I order the components from mwave.com -- they're supermicro cases/motherboards |
| 14:56 | <blahrus> | I have never been able to find great deals on supermicro |
| 14:56 | <blahrus> | I have an old supermicro server |
| 14:56 | <@caker> | wave is pretty fair, good support, etc |
| 14:56 | <blahrus> | p2 400 |
| 14:56 | <@caker> | er. mwave |
| 14:56 | <blahrus> | ultrawide 2 scsi |
| 14:58 | <blahrus> | i guess other than you want more people signing up . . . . a slow day for you is good |
| 14:59 | <@caker> | heh |
| 14:59 | <blahrus> | mwave prices are not bad |
| 14:59 | <@caker> | check out the barebones bundles |
| 14:59 | <@caker> | although don't order 1GB ram chips, they'll send you the full-height this batch |
| 15:00 | <blahrus> | thats not helpful for 1u's |
| 15:00 | <@caker> | Same thing I said when I opened the boxes last Friday |
| 15:00 | <blahrus> | hahah |
| 15:01 | <@caker> | first time in 17 servers |
| 15:01 | <@caker> | same part numbers, etc |
| 15:01 | <@caker> | someone screwed up |
| 15:01 | <blahrus> | what did they think you were going to use? |
| 15:01 | <blahrus> | them for |
| 15:02 | <@caker> | I dunno .. placing into a box and sending back is what I did when them |
| 15:03 | <@caker> | s/when/with/ |
| 15:03 | <blahrus> | you call them or hear back from them? |
| 15:03 | <blahrus> | did you ever get vsacs working??? |
| 15:04 | <@caker> | Yes, I had to get an RMA number, etc.. |
| 15:04 | <@caker> | and I never finished installing vsacs yet |
| 15:04 | <@caker> | their download page made me mad |
| 15:04 | <blahrus> | hahah yea |
| 15:04 | <blahrus> | its not the easyest but it the ONLY control panel I have used and liked |
| 15:04 | <blahrus> | cpanel is a waste of money and space |
| 15:04 | <@caker> | really? |
| 15:05 | <@caker> | it is very popular |
| 15:05 | <blahrus> | yea . . . . . |
| 15:05 | <blahrus> | well becuase you grandma's mom could use it. |
| 15:05 | <blahrus> | but I don't think that any of the others are any worse |
| 15:08 | <blahrus> | I know they guy very well and have worked with him quite a bit |
| 15:08 | <blahrus> | I am sure he could cut some deals for you on the debian linodes |
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| 15:09 | <@caker> | cool |
| 15:09 | <@caker> | I'd like to get it installed and mess with it |
| 15:09 | <blahrus> | cause I know a lot of people use their linodes for for webhosting. |
| 15:09 | <@caker> | yes, it is a market I haven't really gone after |
| 15:10 | <blahrus> | thats why I did it |
| 15:10 | <@caker> | as far as control panels, etc are concerned |
| 15:10 | <blahrus> | cause webhosting does not use cpu . . . . . |
| 15:10 | <blahrus> | and not even that much ram |
| 15:10 | <blahrus> | so a vps is perfect for me |
| 15:10 | <schweeb> | hrm |
| 15:10 | <blahrus> | control panels are OVER PRICED |
| 15:11 | <schweeb> | might have to look into that if I ever sell webspace on m y server |
| 15:11 | <schweeb> | that's pretty cheap |
| 15:11 | <blahrus> | on servers that I have run with over 30 websites on sending gigs a day out . . . the load is VERY low still |
| 15:11 | <@adamg> | fecking mysql binary logs |
| 15:11 | <blahrus> | yea mysql would be about the only thing . . . . |
| 15:12 | <blahrus> | I do not have many domains that use HUGE databases |
| 15:12 | <blahrus> | nothing over 100k |
| 15:12 | <blahrus> | another thing people that run php-nuke sites |
| 15:12 | <blahrus> | their error log is ungodly HUGE . . . . that thing produces so many errors its not even funny |
| 15:12 | <blahrus> | i have had error logs over 100megs in size |
| 15:13 | <schweeb> | ugh |
| 15:13 | <schweeb> | I'll stick with postgres, kthxbai |
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| 15:13 | <blahrus> | yea . . . its not as much sql as just the poorly writen software |
| 15:13 | <blahrus> | that uses it |
| 15:14 | <schweeb> | all the people I know that do databasing wouldn't touch mysql w/ a 10 ft pole, that's good enough for me |
| 15:15 | <blahrus> | ya, I don't know much about databases at all . . . . |
| 15:17 | <@caker> | schweeb: they argue the standard complains? "no referential integrity, no triggers, blah blah" ? |
| 15:17 | <@caker> | complaints |
| 15:19 | <schweeb> | caker: also it veers away from sql standards, and is therefore harder to migrate to/from other DB's, whereas pgsql and oracle are fairly similar |
| 15:19 | <schweeb> | no rollback |
| 15:19 | <@caker> | right |
| 15:19 | <schweeb> | not truly relational |
| 15:19 | <@caker> | I've never actually a successful database platform migration |
| 15:20 | <@caker> | s/a/seen./ |
| 15:20 | <@caker> | geesh what is wrong with me |
| 15:20 | <blahrus> | hahah |
| 15:20 | * | caker checks himself |
| 15:20 | <blahrus> | thinking faster than you can type? |
| 15:20 | <schweeb> | there's a whole list they have, and the reasons are quite sane |
| 15:20 | <blahrus> | (thats how I cover it up) |
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| 15:25 | <schweeb> | caker: if you wanna see some really ugly databasing, you should see our access frontend that uses odbc to connect to postgres. horrible. |
| 15:25 | <@caker> | hehe |
| 15:25 | <schweeb> | we're migrating away from that, to a php webapp, thank god |
| 15:25 | <@caker> | Access ... |
| 15:26 | <schweeb> | I'd be running linux on the desktops if it wasn't for that crap |
| 15:26 | <@caker> | I've seen enormous Access applications "written" using nothing but wizards |
| 15:26 | <schweeb> | yea we have on e of those |
| 15:26 | <schweeb> | eClassicSystems ATM manager Pro appears to be that way |
| 15:27 | <schweeb> | probably spent 20 grand on it too |
| 15:27 | <blahrus> | hahahah |
| 15:27 | <blahrus> | schweeb: where you work/ |
| 15:27 | <blahrus> | ? |
| 15:27 | <schweeb> | in the financial services industry |
| 15:28 | <blahrus> | fun fun |
| 15:28 | <schweeb> | credit card processing, specifically |
| 15:29 | <blahrus> | ehhh deal with the fraud? |
| 15:29 | <schweeb> | we have a repo dept and a risk dept, yes |
| 15:29 | <blahrus> | cool |
| 15:29 | <blahrus> | brb |
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| 16:01 | <dredbeat> | hey hey |
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| 16:14 | <dredbeat> | whats the point of a 32mb initd partition? |
| 16:14 | <NeXTer> | Huh? |
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| 16:16 | <dredbeat> | in filetype system, when you're messing around with Disk Images, theres an option to have an initrd filesystem |
| 16:16 | <dredbeat> | im just wondering what the point of that is |
| 16:17 | <NeXTer> | Hmm... Never noticed that... Then again, I just raced through the options to get Debian up and running ASAP |
| 16:18 | <@guinea-work> | i hate initrd |
| 16:18 | <@guinea-work> | but some people love it :P |
| 16:19 | <schweeb> | ewww initrds |
| 16:19 | <@guinea-work> | initrd - boot loader initialized RAM disk |
| 16:21 | <schweeb> | it's what you need if you screw up and make everything a module... the initrd is fed by your boot loader to the kernel, and can load modules w/o the kernel needing to access the filesystem |
| 16:22 | <dredbeat> | ah |
| 16:23 | <schweeb> | it's a bit of a hack |
| 16:23 | <dredbeat> | not something i really need :P |
| 16:24 | <schweeb> | well, if your controller card or filesystem are compiled as modules, then you need it, as the kernel wouldn't be able to access your root file system to do anything with it |
| 16:24 | <@adamg> | does not seem to be much use on a linode |
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| 16:25 | <dredbeat> | exactly |
| 16:27 | <dredbeat> | maybe a more basic question now |
| 16:28 | <NeXTer> | My eight-ball says "In your dreams" |
| 16:28 | <NeXTer> | What was the question, btw? |
| 16:28 | <dredbeat> | if i setup a swap filesystem, what do i have to do to make my linux kernel look for it |
| 16:29 | <@mikegrb> | initrd on linode was requested by people wanting lvm rootfs |
| 16:29 | <@mikegrb> | though don't ask me why someone would want lvm on linode |
| 16:29 | <NeXTer> | Nothing? |
| 16:29 | <schweeb> | can't you compile lvm into the kernel? |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | yes |
| 16:30 | <schweeb> | ... |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | but if lvm is rootfs you need to have scripts to setup and mount the volume group for root |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | I presume |
| 16:30 | <@mikegrb> | I'm using lvm at home but not for tootfs |
| 16:31 | <schweeb> | from what I've heard it's bad to allow modules in UML vservers, as someone could compile a hostfs module, and mount things outside their uml machine |
| 16:31 | <@mikegrb> | right |
| 16:31 | <@mikegrb> | modules are disabled |
| 16:31 | <@tjfontaine> | but you can ask pretty pretty please to caker |
| 16:31 | <@mikegrb> | so in the linode case it isn't for modules, just init script goodness stuff that needs to run before rootfs is mounted |
| 16:32 | <schweeb> | yea |
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| 16:40 | <@tjfontaine> | hows bobby taft treatin you? |
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| 16:54 | <@tjfontaine> | Vee Vii Voo Vum |
| 16:55 | <Vee> | 'sup |
| 17:03 | <@adamg> | hmm |
| 17:03 | <EFudd> | FUCK |
| 17:04 | <EFudd> | GDI |
| 17:04 | <EFudd> | everyone at cisco.com is trying to pull down a 12MB file from me |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | forever apache2 # egrep -ic snowtowcar.wmv access_log |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | 11558 |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | Well that sucks. |
| 17:05 | <dredbeat> | why ? :P |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | Uh. |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | 101GB used? |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | 40 overnight? |
| 17:05 | <EFudd> | =] |
| 17:06 | <dredbeat> | why though? |
| 17:06 | <EFudd> | it's an interesting video? |
| 17:06 | <EFudd> | and some asswipe posted it wehre i asked him not to |
| 17:06 | <dredbeat> | haha alright |
| 17:06 | <dredbeat> | lemme see the video :P |
| 17:06 | <schweeb> | take it down |
| 17:06 | <dredbeat> | no shit |
| 17:06 | <EFudd> | it is. I forgot to chmod 0 it :) |
| 17:06 | <EFudd> | time to skript sompn up |
| 17:06 | <dredbeat> | take it down and make a new video |
| 17:07 | <dredbeat> | that just repeats the goatse.cx image |
| 17:07 | <schweeb> | set up basic auth or something |
| 17:07 | <dredbeat> | for a few seconds |
| 17:07 | <dredbeat> | people who download it will hate you |
| 17:07 | <dredbeat> | ;P |
| 17:07 | <EFudd> | I do schweeb.. i generaly move large files to htaccess dir post-5hrs or so |
| 17:07 | <schweeb> | ahhh |
| 17:08 | * | EFudd tries to find overage fee |
| 17:09 | <schweeb> | it's like $5 a gig |
| 17:09 | <dredbeat> | yup |
| 17:09 | <dredbeat> | haha |
| 17:09 | <EFudd> | yah, i gotta talk to caker :) |
| 17:09 | <dredbeat> | at this rate you owe.. |
| 17:09 | <dredbeat> | TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS |
| 17:09 | * | EFudd nods |
| 17:10 | <@adamg> | $1 a gig |
| 17:10 | <EFudd> | eh, not too bad I guess |
| 17:10 | <EFudd> | I hope folk enjoyed it :) |
| 17:10 | <@adamg> | used to be $3 for non-prepurchased overage |
| 17:10 | <EFudd> | -nods- |
| 17:10 | * | EFudd sigh |
| 17:11 | <EFudd> | where is the $ at ? |
| 17:11 | <EFudd> | it's only $35 bux at this point |
| 17:11 | <schweeb> | that's more than I pay a month for unlimited :p |
| 17:12 | <EFudd> | you get unlimited where? :) |
| 17:12 | <schweeb> | a secret place |
| 17:12 | <EFudd> | .. anyway. |
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| 17:25 | <EFudd> | holy damn |
| 17:25 | <EFudd> | just turned the webserver back on |
| 17:25 | <@guinea-work> | you turned a server off?!@>!?<$# |
| 17:25 | <EFudd> | that url is being referred to by at least 40 diferent message boards |
| 17:25 | * | guinea-work faints |
| 17:26 | <EFudd> | i've found it linked in german, france, etc.. :) |
| 17:27 | * | guinea-work just scrolled up |
| 17:27 | <@guinea-work> | wow |
| 17:27 | * | guinea-work faints again :P |
| 17:27 | <@guinea-work> | and here i'm complaining that i'm not using nearly enough bw |
| 17:27 | <EFudd> | yes |
| 17:27 | <EFudd> | :P |
| 17:27 | <EFudd> | well normally i don't |
| 17:27 | <EFudd> | this time i did :) |
| 17:27 | <EFudd> | i'm getting 4-5 requests/SECOND for that file |
| 17:28 | <@guinea-work> | i've used 1.71G/50G, so here, have some of mine :P |
| 17:28 | <EFudd> | lol |
| 17:28 | <EFudd> | my other machine is like that |
| 17:28 | <EFudd> | but it's at a diff data ceneter |
| 17:28 | <schweeb> | 1.05G here |
| 17:28 | <@guinea-work> | heh. "my other machine"... i'm expecting to read a bumper sticker like that |
| 17:28 | <EFudd> | i scrwed up. i'll pay it and that's that |
| 17:29 | <EFudd> | it's referenced in russia |
| 17:29 | <EFudd> | lol |
| 17:29 | <@guinea-work> | my other machine is a dual 600 THz |
| 17:29 | <dredbeat> | whats the video of :P |
| 17:29 | <EFudd> | someone pulling their bumper off trying to tow their car out |
| 17:29 | <dredbeat> | heh |
| 17:29 | <@guinea-work> | haha |
| 17:29 | <@guinea-work> | MY DAD |
| 17:29 | <@guinea-work> | no |
| 17:30 | <@guinea-work> | my dad's the one who warped his trailer hitch, trying to drag an X ton machine |
| 17:30 | <@guinea-work> | so no camping for us for a while |
| 17:30 | <@guinea-work> | X being i don't remember how much, but he lifted the front end of the truck off the ground, and it barely moved a foot |
| 17:34 | guinea-work | is now known as guinea-sleep |
| 17:43 | * | caker snickers that his plan to post EFudd's URL everywhere worked |
| 17:44 | <schweeb> | lol |
| 17:44 | <dredbeat> | haha |
| 17:46 | <EFudd> | it's been linked all over the world |
| 17:46 | <EFudd> | russia, sweden, germany, etc :) |
| 17:46 | <@guinea-sleep> | i didn't get it |
| 17:46 | * | guinea-sleep beats caker to a bloody pulp for not sharing |
| 17:46 | <@guinea-sleep> | in my sleep |
| 17:46 | <EFudd> | http://forever.broked.net/~jason/private |
| 17:47 | <EFudd> | you post the user/pass aroudn and I personally kill you |
| 17:47 | <@guinea-sleep> | is this at HE? |
| 17:47 | <EFudd> | TP |
| 17:47 | <EFudd> | my -he host has considerably less bandwidth.. but i could move it there for now |
| 17:47 | <@guinea-sleep> | oh, i was gonna try saving you some bw, by copying it to my linode :P |
| 17:47 | <@guinea-sleep> | heh |
| 17:47 | <EFudd> | -shrug- |
| 17:48 | <@guinea-sleep> | mmm, mindterm |
| 17:48 | <@adamg> | sighup linode avail |
| 17:48 | <sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 32] [Linode 96: 9] [Linode 128: 5] [Linode 192: 8] [Linode 256: 8] |
| 17:48 | <@adamg> | hmm looks like a 192 and 256 has gone |
| 17:48 | * | EFudd nods |
| 17:48 | <@caker> | an existing customer upgraded |
| 17:49 | <EFudd> | egrep -ic snowtowcar.wmv /var/log/apache2/access_log |
| 17:49 | <EFudd> | 12131 |
| 17:49 | * | EFudd dies |
| 17:49 | <@adamg> | caker would you offer packages greater than 256 |
| 17:50 | <EFudd> | 1k requests in the past 40 minutes |
| 17:50 | <@caker> | adamg: I suppose, yes .. |
| 17:50 | <dredbeat> | yo |
| 17:50 | <@adamg> | thats alot requests |
| 17:50 | <dredbeat> | when reading fstab |
| 17:50 | <dredbeat> | /dev/ubda / ext3 defaults 1 1 |
| 17:50 | <dredbeat> | what do the last 2 terms mean |
| 17:50 | <dredbeat> | 1 1 |
| 17:51 | <EFudd> | jason@forever public_html $ chmod 0 private/ |
| 17:51 | * | EFudd snickers |
| 17:51 | <dredbeat> | why would someone use 1 and not 0 |
| 17:51 | <dredbeat> | ? |
| 17:51 | <EFudd> | man fstab |
| 17:51 | <dredbeat> | i have |
| 17:51 | <dredbeat> | i understand what the 6th field is |
| 17:51 | <EFudd> | then what is the question? :) |
| 17:51 | <dredbeat> | but im not sure why you would use 1 as the fifth field |
| 17:52 | <@guinea-sleep> | The fifth field, (fs_freq), is used for these filesystems by the dump(8) |
| 17:52 | <dredbeat> | ok.. |
| 17:52 | <dredbeat> | thank you 'man' |
| 17:52 | <@guinea-sleep> | so 1 = true, 0= false |
| 17:52 | <dredbeat> | im asking for some explanation on what that means.. though |
| 17:52 | <@guinea-sleep> | man 8 dump |
| 17:52 | <dredbeat> | ok, nm :P |
| 17:53 | <EFudd> | think i'll find a log analyzier right quick |
| 17:53 | <EFudd> | wanna see what kinda data is generated from this paache logfile :0 |
| 17:53 | <@guinea-sleep> | webalizer++ |
| 17:53 | <EFudd> | http://clueful.shagged.org/apachetop/apachetop.png |
| 17:53 | <EFudd> | that's neat |
| 17:54 | <EFudd> | www.logreport.org |
| 17:54 | <EFudd> | i'd looked at that |
| 17:54 | <EFudd> | since it covers all logfile types |
| 17:54 | <@guinea-sleep> | logfile "types" ? |
| 17:55 | <NeXTer> | Lots of different log formats |
| 17:55 | <@guinea-sleep> | what i meant was |
| 17:55 | <@adamg> | hmm I can view png files |
| 17:55 | <@adamg> | fecking ie |
| 17:55 | <@guinea-sleep> | are you referring to the different variations of apache logfiles? |
| 17:55 | <@guinea-sleep> | that are customisable? |
| 17:55 | <@guinea-sleep> | afaik, webalizer and analog can be customised to match |
| 17:55 | <EFudd> | apache |
| 17:55 | <EFudd> | postfix |
| 17:55 | <EFudd> | generic |
| 17:55 | <EFudd> | etc |
| 17:55 | <@guinea-sleep> | oh |
| 17:56 | <@guinea-sleep> | i thought we were still talking about apache specifically |
| 17:59 | <@guinea-sleep> | damn. what morons |
| 17:59 | <@guinea-sleep> | why didn't they try PUSHING the car? :P |
| 17:59 | <@guinea-sleep> | forwards instead of backwards, i mean |
| 18:05 | <EFudd> | http://forever.broked.net/webalizer |
| 18:08 | <@caker> | EFudd: what clued you into the popular link? |
| 18:08 | <EFudd> | 16:56 <@grouchy> Hah, someone at work quoting E's url, <Cameron> Try this: |
| 18:08 | <EFudd> | http://forever.broked.net/~jason/snowtowcar.wmv |
| 18:08 | <EFudd> | friend of mine who writes IOS code for cisco :) |
| 18:09 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:09 | <EFudd> | [27/Jan/2004:18:08:57 -0500][27/Jan/2004:18:08:57 -0500] "GET /~jason/snowtowcar.wmv HTTP/1.1" 403 355 "http://us.f147.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=7116_3077347_3835_2669_884_0_7443_-1_0&YY=85279&inc=200&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=&head=&box=Inbox" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)" |
| 18:09 | <EFudd> | I keep getting yahoo and msn referrals in email !@#!@# |
| 18:09 | <@guinea-sleep> | mail.yahoo |
| 18:10 | <EFudd> | -nods- :) |
| 18:10 | <@caker> | when you run webalizer, add -r forever.broked.net |
| 18:10 | <EFudd> | yeah |
| 18:10 | <EFudd> | was about to man it to figure out how to do that :) |
| 18:10 | <@mikegrb> | or add to config file :) |
| 18:10 | <@mikegrb> | the default gentoo one has lots of comments :) |
| 18:10 | <EFudd> | and i want DNS recsolution |
| 18:11 | <@guinea-sleep> | if apache hasn't done it already, that'll make webalizer take forever to run :P |
| 18:11 | <EFudd> | so |
| 18:11 | <EFudd> | :) |
| 18:11 | <@mikegrb> | but webalizer will cache the lookups |
| 18:11 | <EFudd> | LAME |
| 18:12 | <EFudd> | /etc/webalizer.conf != /etc/apache2/conf/webalizer.conf |
| 18:12 | <@mikegrb> | and spawn as may processes as you ask to do lookups |
| 18:12 | <@guinea-sleep> | why would there be an /etc/apache2/conf/webalizer.conf?! |
| 18:12 | <@mikegrb> | to throw you off the sent |
| 18:12 | <EFudd> | that's what it requires Included in apache2.conf for some reason |
| 18:12 | <@guinea-sleep> | or would that be for inclusion in httpd.conf? |
| 18:12 | <@guinea-sleep> | heh |
| 18:12 | <EFudd> | hwoever they are ~= in config |
| 18:14 | <EFudd> | Error: Unable to open DNS cache file /etc/dns_cache.db |
| 18:14 | <EFudd> | ok |
| 18:14 | <EFudd> | webalizer is lame. |
| 18:15 | <EFudd> | i guess you have to initialize the dns_cache somehow |
| 18:16 | <@caker> | webalizer is the best OSS stats program, to my knowledge |
| 18:16 | <@caker> | permissions problem? |
| 18:16 | <eadz> | pathalizer is also very cool, but thats in addition to webalizer |
| 18:16 | <EFudd> | currently running as rewt since i lack |
| 18:16 | <@guinea-sleep> | eww. |
| 18:16 | <@guinea-sleep> | it shouldn't use /etc for a cache anyway |
| 18:16 | <@guinea-sleep> | /var/cache or somesort |
| 18:17 | <EFudd> | yah |
| 18:17 | <EFudd> | that was typo anyway |
| 18:17 | <EFudd> | says to read DNS.README |
| 18:17 | <EFudd> | forever webalizer-2.01.10-r4 # ls |
| 18:17 | <EFudd> | CHANGES.gz Copyright.gz README.gz |
| 18:17 | <EFudd> | COPYING.gz README.FIRST.gz sample.conf.gz |
| 18:17 | <@caker> | lol |
| 18:17 | <@guinea-sleep> | webalizer -n $i -r $i -s $i $LOG -o $OUTDIR |
| 18:18 | <eadz> | http://pathalizer.bzzt.net/example/wiki-access.logs.png |
| 18:18 | <eadz> | http://pathalizer.bzzt.net/ |
| 18:19 | <@caker> | ahh, I used that when I was designing the LPM |
| 18:19 | <@caker> | I'm going to hook that back up |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | pathalizer is kinda cool |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | webalizer |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | Webalizer V2.01-10 (Linux 2.4.24-linode20-1um) English |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | Using logfile /var/log/apache2/access_log (clf) |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | DNS Lookup (20): |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | |
| 18:20 | <EFudd> | ah finally |
| 18:20 | * | EFudd waits 40 hours |
| 18:23 | <EFudd> | it guess it blocks there a while ? |
| 18:23 | <@caker> | how many dns threads did you give it? |
| 18:23 | <EFudd> | looks like it's attempting 20 |
| 18:23 | <@caker> | or, are they a runnin |
| 18:23 | <EFudd> | even tho i gave it 10 :) |
| 18:23 | <EFudd> | yah, they are running |
| 18:24 | <@caker> | btw, did you fix your resolv.conf ? |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | yah, its running |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | fix? |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | domain broked.net |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | search linode.com |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | nameserver 216.156.129.66 |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | nameserver 216.156.129.65 |
| 18:24 | <@caker> | choose closer dns servers? |
| 18:24 | <@caker> | hrm |
| 18:24 | <@caker> | prepend nameserver 64.5.53.6 |
| 18:24 | <EFudd> | okee |
| 18:25 | <EFudd> | gotcha. |
| 18:25 | <@guinea-sleep> | why, if that doesn't look like a TP IP |
| 18:25 | <@caker> | That's my local resolver at TP |
| 18:25 | <@guinea-sleep> | hehe |
| 18:25 | <EFudd> | there it goes |
| 18:25 | <EFudd> | 160648 records (4 ignored) in 2.81 seconds, 57170/sec |
| 18:25 | <@guinea-sleep> | watch it go! |
| 18:25 | <@caker> | and for HE it's 64.62.190.9 |
| 18:26 | <EFudd> | h000d56516668.ne.client2.attbi.com |
| 18:26 | <EFudd> | good lord. |
| 18:26 | <EFudd> | I swear folk are "creative" with their naming schemes |
| 18:26 | <EFudd> | 144 0.12% 125 0.11% 1028245 0.68% 2 0.38% rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com |
| 18:28 | <@guinea-sleep> | erm |
| 18:28 | <@guinea-sleep> | i think the attbi addies are mac addresses prepended with an h |
| 18:28 | <EFudd> | yah |
| 18:29 | <EFudd> | 16643 13.86% 15420 14.17% 199498 0.13% 1 0.19% natint2.juniper.net |
| 18:29 | <@caker> | http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/?string=00%3A0d%3A56 |
| 18:29 | <@guinea-sleep> | i know my friend's mac addy ends in an f, but i'm not sure if it's ef, 2f, or 7f |
| 18:29 | <EFudd> | pcba test? heh. |
| 18:30 | <EFudd> | 176 0.15% 104 0.10% 194372 0.13% 4 0.75% frasier.ford.com |
| 18:30 | <EFudd> | oh this is too funny |
| 18:30 | <EFudd> | ford needs something to do ! |
| 18:30 | <EFudd> | 357 0.30% 354 0.33% 55865 0.04% 1 0.19% sjfw1.adobe.com |
| 18:30 | <EFudd> | give adobe a job ! |
| 18:30 | <@caker> | any whitehouse.gov's? |
| 18:30 | <EFudd> | no one was working today !@# |
| 18:31 | <EFudd> | they were all hitting my webserver ! |
| 18:31 | <@guinea-sleep> | hmm. most of the new england attbi's i see are h00095b |
| 18:31 | <@guinea-sleep> | which is netgear |
| 18:34 | <EFudd> | 352 0.29% 305 0.28% 2335648 1.55% 3 0.56% 128.107.253.39 |
| 18:34 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:34 | <EFudd> | whcih is cisco's west coast gateway |
| 18:34 | <@mikegrb> | I wgot it last night from home |
| 18:34 | * | EFudd dies |
| 18:34 | <@mikegrb> | otherwise I would have got it at work :) a .mil |
| 18:34 | <@guinea-sleep> | i know a .mil |
| 18:34 | * | mikegrb too heh |
| 18:35 | <@mikegrb> | 18:33 <+bot> caker got knifed in a dark alley. This terrible calamity has slowed them 0 days, 05:08:48 from level 49. |
| 18:35 | * | mikegrb hands caker a bandaid |
| 18:35 | <@caker> | I have no luck on that thing at all |
| 18:35 | <@guinea-sleep> | you think that's bad? i got turned inside out! |
| 18:35 | <@mikegrb> | heh yeah I saw |
| 18:35 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: g7 caker |
| 18:35 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for caker, the badass -- 19/158 Current Level: 48 | Time to next level: 3 days, 06:37:57 | Status: online | Item Total: 342 | Total Time Idled: 58 days, 15:34:00 |
| 18:35 | <@guinea-sleep> | practically |
| 18:35 | <@mikegrb> | caker: you are in the top 20 :) |
| 18:35 | <@guinea-sleep> | whoa... you're 19 |
| 18:35 | <@guinea-sleep> | he used to be in the top 3! |
| 18:36 | <@guinea-sleep> | and i was like ... 12th a week ago |
| 18:36 | <@caker> | and now? |
| 18:36 | <@guinea-sleep> | haha |
| 18:36 | <@caker> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 18:36 | <@guinea-sleep> | [01:59][01:59] <mikegrb2> sucks to be gp |
| 18:36 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 3/158 Current Level: 50 | Time to next level: 2 days, 04:41:55 | Status: online | Item Total: 458 | Total Time Idled: 64 days, 07:58:55 |
| 18:36 | <@mikegrb> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 18:36 | <sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 3/158 Current Level: 50 | Time to next level: 2 days, 04:41:55 | Status: online | Item Total: 458 | Total Time Idled: 64 days, 07:58:55 |
| 18:36 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:36 | <@guinea-sleep> | sighup: oh bother |
| 18:36 | <sighup> | guinea-sleep: excuse me? |
| 18:37 | <EFudd> | hahhah |
| 18:37 | <EFudd> | ibm did another half a gig |
| 18:37 | <@guinea-sleep> | i *was* 2nd but someone got a hog |
| 18:37 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:37 | <@mikegrb> | someone named mikegrb? |
| 18:37 | <@caker> | EFudd: damn |
| 18:37 | <EFudd> | it was apparently popular with techies :) |
| 18:37 | <@guinea-sleep> | yes that sort of someone |
| 18:38 | <@caker> | everyone with fast connectivity |
| 18:38 | <EFudd> | yah |
| 18:38 | <EFudd> | PWNed me |
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| 18:38 | <@guinea-sleep> | PWM? |
| 18:38 | <@guinea-sleep> | err, PWN? |
| 18:38 | <@mikegrb> | pulse width modulated |
| 18:38 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:38 | <@guinea-sleep> | see all dict knows is "peacenet world news" |
| 18:39 | <@mikegrb> | I read that |
| 18:39 | <EFudd> | PWNed is everquest for OWNed |
| 18:39 | <@guinea-sleep> | right |
| 18:39 | <@caker> | evercrack |
| 18:39 | <@guinea-sleep> | what's everquest? |
| 18:39 | <EFudd> | !@#!@# |
| 18:39 | <EFudd> | what? :) |
| 18:39 | <@guinea-sleep> | well |
| 18:39 | <@guinea-sleep> | i've heard *of* it |
| 18:39 | <@caker> | for-everquest |
| 18:39 | <@guinea-sleep> | but i've no idea what sort of game it is |
| 18:40 | <@guinea-sleep> | only games i play are gnomine, pydance, and ... that smack the penguin flash thingy :P |
| 18:40 | <@mikegrb> | silly people play it |
| 18:40 | <@guinea-sleep> | mmm, penguin beatings |
| 18:40 | <@guinea-sleep> | IM SILLY! |
| 18:40 | * | mikegrb has flash duckhunt |
| 18:40 | * | guinea-sleep points to the talking ribbit on his shoulder |
| 18:40 | <@mikegrb> | like the original with original sound |
| 18:41 | <@mikegrb> | thegrebs.com/flash I think |
| 18:41 | <@mikegrb> | no /humor |
| 18:42 | <@mikegrb> | http://thegrebs.com/humor/switchlinux.swf > * |
| 18:42 | * | EFudd puts a redirect to that url in place of snowtocar.wmv |
| 18:43 | <@mikegrb> | :< |
| 18:43 | <@guinea-sleep> | that's evil |
| 18:43 | <@guinea-sleep> | and i think it'd give mikegrb right to sue you! :D |
| 18:44 | <@mikegrb> | heh |
| 18:45 | * | adamg hasnt got any work done today |
| 18:46 | <@mikegrb> | you too? |
| 18:46 | = | Guest0 [~michael@dhcp024-208-191-128.columbus.rr.com] quit (Ping timeout: 501 seconds) |
| 18:46 | <sjansen> | Kinda relaxing listening to the switchlinux music loop in the background. |
| 18:48 | <@adamg> | and I meant to get some coding done |
| 18:48 | <@mikegrb> | aye |
| 18:48 | <blahrus> | hahah thast funny |
| 18:48 | <@mikegrb> | that is my favorite flash of all time |
| 18:49 | <@adamg> | things never go to plan |
| 18:50 | <@mikegrb> | unless you lan on getting nothing down |
| 18:50 | <@mikegrb> | er plab |
| 18:50 | <@mikegrb> | danbut plan |
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| 18:52 | <EFudd> | yanno |
| 18:52 | <EFudd> | people walking my website kind abug me :) |
| 18:53 | <EFudd> | i'm tempted to write a servlet to prevent that |
| 18:55 | + | AshenWuff [hidden-use@host80-1-72-245.no-dns-yet.ntli.net] joined #linode |
| 18:55 | <AshenWuff> | hi :) |
| 18:56 | <@guinea-sleep> | argh! the cartman cluster is down! |
| 18:56 | <@guinea-sleep> | (livejournal, eh?) |
| 18:57 | <AshenWuff> | out of curiousity, I can't login on console, due to it putting ^Ms and linebreaks in funny places. Has anyone else had this problem? |
| 18:59 | <EFudd> | any of you know modrewrite ? |
| 18:59 | <@adamg> | kinda |
| 18:59 | <EFudd> | i wanna rewrite requests to that file to another server |
| 19:00 | <@adamg> | RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.domain\.com |
| 19:00 | <@adamg> | RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} ^80$ |
| 19:00 | <@adamg> | RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.domain.com/$1 [R=permanent,L] |
| 19:01 | <@adamg> | that rewrites anything to the domain.com to www.domain.com |
| 19:01 | <@adamg> | you should be able to add in a path to both |
| 19:02 | <@adamg> | you also need RewriteEngine on |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | RewriteEngine On |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | RewriteCond %{HTTP_POST} !^forever\.broked\.net |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} ^80$ |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | RewriteRule ^(snowtowcar.wmv)$ http://mostly.broked.net/~jason/$1 [R=permanent,L] |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | sompn like that you think ? |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | that's in .htaccess of my public_html |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | rock |
| 19:02 | <EFudd> | worked |
| 19:02 | <@adamg> | I thinks that should work |
| 19:02 | <@adamg> | cool |
| 19:03 | <@adamg> | mod-rewrite is very powerful but not many people really understand the best ways to use it |
| 19:03 | <EFudd> | now to watch utilizatoin :) |
| 19:03 | * | AshenWuff ouches |
| 19:04 | <EFudd> | have ~22GB left there |
| 19:04 | <AshenWuff> | ok, I've managed to get my console login disabled :-/ Really not successful. |
| 19:04 | <AshenWuff> | can everyone else login fine by using ssh to hostxx.linode.com? |
| 19:04 | <@adamg> | works fine for me |
| 19:05 | <@adamg> | it should work like any other ssh login |
| 19:05 | <@adamg> | the username and password you should have been using is the ones you use for the members area |
| 19:05 | <AshenWuff> | what happens is, I get the $hostname login: prompt |
| 19:06 | <AshenWuff> | I type a username, press return, and it prints: |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | isn't there a network top type thingy? hrm |
| 19:06 | <@adamg> | yep |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | wait. apache-top exists |
| 19:06 | <AshenWuff> | hostname login: username^MPassword: |
| 19:06 | <AshenWuff> | then I enter my password, and *before* I'm finished, it prints: |
| 19:06 | <@adamg> | i use these to jnettop |
| 19:06 | <@adamg> | nettop |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | hrm |
| 19:06 | <EFudd> | is there a way to randomly redirect to other mirrors too ? :) |
| 19:06 | <AshenWuff> | Login Incorrect: on a new line |
| 19:07 | <AshenWuff> | it's like it only accepcts passwords a few characters long |
| 19:07 | <@adamg> | never had that problem before, what client are you using |
| 19:07 | <@adamg> | EFudd: you should be able to |
| 19:07 | <AshenWuff> | linux ssh to access the lish, and lish to access the console |
| 19:07 | <@adamg> | can you connect to lish? |
| 19:07 | <AshenWuff> | yes |
| 19:08 | <AshenWuff> | I can connect to the screen that you login to on the console |
| 19:08 | <AshenWuff> | but it won't let me login because it fscks up the newlines |
| 19:08 | <@adamg> | which distro are you using |
| 19:08 | <AshenWuff> | RH 9 |
| 19:08 | <@guinea-sleep> | what ssh client are you using? |
| 19:08 | <AshenWuff> | SuSE 8.2's standard shell 'ssh' command. |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | using 'root' as username and 'password' as password (not the real values, only chosen for illustration), I get: |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | moonlightglade login: root^MPassword: |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | assword^MLogin incorrect |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | only lets me enter 1 digit of password before cutting me out |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | then it does it even worse on the next login prompt, coming up with : |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | login: rPassword: |
| 19:09 | <AshenWuff> | otLogin incorrect |
| 19:10 | <AshenWuff> | won't even let me enter my password at all, it barely lets me enter my username. |
| 19:10 | <@guinea-sleep> | which enter key are you using? :P |
| 19:10 | <@guinea-sleep> | i ask because sometimes i've had issues with the enter on the numpad sending extra characters |
| 19:11 | <AshenWuff> | 'return'. I've tried the numpad 'enter' too.... they both produce this ^M thing which screws it up. |
| 19:11 | <@adamg> | EFudd: from what I can see you would have to use a perl script to do that |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | hmmm |
| 19:11 | <EFudd> | ok |
| 19:11 | <@adamg> | the rewrite rule can call a perl script |
| 19:12 | <@adamg> | sweet, through mod-rewrite you can get it to update the page in someones browser every time it changes on the server |
| 19:12 | <@guinea-sleep> | AshenWuff: i might try a different type of terminal (ie xterm instead of gnome-term, for example) to see if that has any effect |
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