| --- | Log | opened Sun Dec 28 00:00:21 2003 |
| --- | Day | changed Sun Dec 28 2003 |
| 00:00 | @caker> | mikegrb: not ath.cx |
| 00:00 | @mikegrb> | yeah |
| 00:00 | @mikegrb> | ath.cx is in eurpoe |
| 00:00 | @mikegrb> | er europe |
| 00:00 | jrm> | ath.cx is one of the free domains you can get from dyndns.org |
| 00:01 | * | Griswald nods. |
| 00:01 | Griswald> | yip |
| 00:01 | @mikegrb> | ahh |
| 00:01 | jrm> | s/get/use |
| 00:01 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 00:01 | @mikegrb> | which explains it pointing at a dhcp block |
| 00:02 | @mikegrb> | I just thought maybe if it was on the public server lists that might account for some of the problems |
| 00:02 | @mikegrb> | but if it can use 50 mb in normal situations then that would certainly cause sqwapping issues on a linode 64 |
| 01:04 | You_Wish> | holly crap their selling zope for big bucks now |
| 01:08 | @mikegrb> | or you can get it for free |
| 01:09 | EFudd> | evening. |
| 01:10 | You_Wish> | nothing is come easy today for me |
| 01:10 | You_Wish> | xchat zope samba all of are being a pain in the |
| 01:11 | You_Wish> | everyone of them need a million librarys |
| 01:12 | @mikegrb> | howdy EFudd |
| 01:13 | * | EFudd attempts to pay bills online with really crappy websites |
| 01:13 | EFudd> | and try to figure out why "WTS" billed me 59.95. "Web Transaction Services" |
| 01:13 | EFudd> | sounds like an online porn billing service |
| 01:13 | @mikegrb> | yes it does |
| 01:13 | You_Wish> | type search dialup |
| 01:14 | You_Wish> | if you got the folder you been hit |
| 01:14 | You_Wish> | and cute icons |
| 01:15 | + | ElfStone [elfstone@host-69-48-10-230.roc.choiceone.net] joined #linode |
| 01:15 | ElfStone> | «sighup» linode avail |
| 01:15 | = | sighup [~sighup@webuser.thegrebs.com] quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 01:16 | EFudd> | Whoah. |
| 01:16 | ElfStone> | what? |
| 01:16 | tjfontaine> | no ascii dude |
| 01:16 | tjfontaine> | er |
| 01:16 | EFudd> | You broke sighup! |
| 01:16 | tjfontaine> | no non-ascii |
| 01:16 | ElfStone> | wtf |
| 01:16 | EFudd> | YOU KILLED SIGHUP. YOU BASTARD! |
| 01:17 | ElfStone> | i turned thaty damn nick complter off |
| 01:17 | You_Wish> | lol |
| 01:17 | You_Wish> | run while you can |
| 01:17 | @mikegrb> | EFudd: heh |
| 01:17 | ElfStone> | i didn;t break it |
| 01:17 | @mikegrb> | EFudd: that is what the cron email I get says |
| 01:17 | ElfStone> | «mikegrb» O.o |
| 01:17 | ElfStone> | wtf |
| 01:17 | EFudd> | ha |
| 01:17 | EFudd> | nice. |
| 01:18 | @mikegrb> | EFudd: "someone killed sighup, that bastard! I restarted him like a good crontab at `date` |
| 01:18 | EFudd> | nice. |
| 01:18 | ElfStone> | O.o |
| 01:18 | ElfStone> | lol |
| 01:18 | ElfStone> | mikegrb gentoo is that smart |
| 01:18 | ElfStone> | O.o |
| 01:19 | ElfStone> | =P |
| 01:19 | ElfStone> | that it reads sighup's raw instream and finds whow as the last command then says it |
| 01:19 | ElfStone> | =P |
| 01:19 | @mikegrb> | hmm yeah |
| 01:19 | @mikegrb> | I should do that |
| 01:19 | @mikegrb> | it isn't last command though |
| 01:19 | ElfStone> | what was? |
| 01:19 | @mikegrb> | any non-ascii in a channel will do it |
| 01:20 | ElfStone> | wtf |
| 01:20 | + | sighup [~sighup@webuser.thegrebs.com] joined #linode |
| 01:20 | Griswald> | why read the instream? just mod the source and add a signal handler that logs the last input :) |
| 01:20 | ElfStone> | >.< |
| 01:20 | ElfStone> | Griswald true |
| 01:20 | ElfStone> | sighup linode avail |
| 01:20 | sighup> | Linode availability -- [Linode 64: 23] [Linode 96: 0] [Linode 128: 15] [Linode 192: 0] [Linode 256: 0] |
| 01:20 | Griswald> | it's what I do with all my progs that run continously :) |
| 01:20 | You_Wish> | Linode 256: 0 come to me |
| 01:20 | Griswald> | makes debugging MUCH easier ;P |
| 01:22 | + | ElfStone` [elfstone@host-69-48-11-77.roc.choiceone.net] joined #linode |
| 01:23 | You_Wish> | anybody know why 256 has to be requested |
| 01:24 | @mikegrb> | not enough demand |
| 01:24 | You_Wish> | i would think that would be the most in demand |
| 01:25 | tjfontaine> | ElfStone: paste some non-ascii chars please |
| 01:25 | ElfStone`> | O.o |
| 01:25 | ElfStone`> | + |
| 01:25 | ElfStone`> | ¦ |
| 01:25 | Griswald> | You_Wish: it's $80 a month |
| 01:25 | Griswald> | that's why it's not in high demand |
| 01:25 | tjfontaine> | ElfStone: silly, like what you did first |
| 01:25 | @mikegrb> | umm + and | are ascii |
| 01:25 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 01:25 | EFudd> | hmmmm |
| 01:26 | ElfStone`> | °•tjfontaine•° |
| 01:26 | You_Wish> | 80 is will worth it |
| 01:26 | EFudd> | 01:21 < LoverMan> http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/reports/ripoff69104.htm |
| 01:26 | EFudd> | well that doesn't look good. |
| 01:26 | Griswald> | yeah, but why use a 256 if it isn't needed? |
| 01:26 | You_Wish> | true |
| 01:26 | ElfStone`> | sighup g7 ElfStone |
| 01:26 | sighup> | #G7 stats for ElfStone, the ElfGod -- 87/113 Current Level: 27 | Time to next level: 0 days, 03:12:52 | Status: offline | Item Total: 226 | Total Time Idled: 2 days, 17:18:10 |
| 01:26 | You_Wish> | i thought i would be at 256 already |
| 01:27 | ElfStone`> | Griswald i found a 512 ded for less then a 256 |
| 01:27 | You_Wish> | but it is holding strong |
| 01:28 | ElfStone`> | tjfontaine it diod crash sighup |
| 01:28 | You_Wish> | anybody here use webmin |
| 01:28 | = | ElfStone [elfstone@host-69-48-10-230.roc.choiceone.net] quit (Ping timeout: 482 seconds) |
| 01:28 | ElfStone` | is now known as ElfStone |
| 01:30 | Griswald> | yes, I use webmin |
| 01:31 | Griswald> | but I try to use sh as much as possible. |
| 01:31 | You_Wish> | Griswald i did a scan and was able to detect everybodys webmin on the network |
| 01:32 | You_Wish> | look scary to me |
| 01:32 | You_Wish> | clicked on some of the links and got me to their login site |
| 01:32 | @mikegrb> | that isn't a big hole |
| 01:32 | @mikegrb> | just looks for webmin on port 10000 |
| 01:33 | @mikegrb> | the default port |
| 01:33 | ElfStone> | mikegrb hgow wa syour christmas |
| 01:33 | You_Wish> | k |
| 01:33 | ElfStone> | *how was your |
| 01:33 | @mikegrb> | fine |
| 01:33 | ElfStone> | thats good |
| 01:33 | You_Wish> | i found something about capturing logins |
| 01:36 | Griswald> | You_Wish, that's why I run Webmin on a port other then 10000 |
| 01:36 | You_Wish> | hmm |
| 01:37 | You_Wish> | what module is that in |
| 01:37 | Griswald> | it isn't a module |
| 01:37 | Griswald> | it's in a file you edit |
| 01:37 | Griswald> | /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf |
| 01:38 | Griswald> | just change the two references of 10000 to whatever port you want |
| 01:38 | Griswald> | then stop and start webmin, and voila. |
| 01:39 | You_Wish> | nice thanks |
| 01:39 | ElfStone> | Griswald i ussaly end up running it on like 8096 |
| 01:40 | * | Griswald nods. |
| 01:40 | Griswald> | Anything except the default |
| 01:40 | Griswald> | and it's a good habit to change the admin account from root to somethin else within webmin :) |
| 01:40 | ElfStone> | yea |
| 01:40 | ElfStone> | if yiou install it from hand |
| 01:40 | ElfStone> | it is admin |
| 01:41 | Griswald> | you could just login to webmin, go to webmin users and change it there :P |
| 01:41 | ElfStone> | yea |
| 01:41 | ElfStone> | Griswald you exipernced in iptables? |
| 01:41 | Griswald> | nope |
| 01:41 | Griswald> | I think mike is though |
| 01:41 | ElfStone> | damn |
| 01:41 | ElfStone> | mikegrb hello? |
| 01:41 | Griswald> | or atleast a few people in #mandrake are |
| 01:42 | You_Wish> | you mean change the root name to something like newrootname |
| 01:42 | Griswald> | yep |
| 01:43 | You_Wish> | crap i didnt know you could do that either |
| 01:43 | Griswald> | it keeps you on the secure side of things |
| 01:43 | You_Wish> | so i could have more than one root access then from different names |
| 01:43 | Griswald> | yes |
| 01:43 | ElfStone> | yea |
| 01:43 | You_Wish> | o shit |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | but |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | i make the owner of su |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | a account only i haev access to |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | and disable ssh to root |
| 01:44 | * | Griswald nods. |
| 01:44 | Griswald> | I'd do that too, but I dunno how |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | su |
| 01:44 | Griswald> | I know about su |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | is in /usr/sbin |
| 01:44 | ElfStone> | oh |
| 01:44 | Griswald> | but I mean, limiting it to one user? |
| 01:45 | Griswald> | and then stopping root from being SSH'ed into? |
| 01:45 | ElfStone> | you would as root |
| 01:45 | You_Wish> | what user would be considered owner the root or the newrootname |
| 01:45 | Griswald> | root is defaulted as owner |
| 01:45 | ElfStone> | Griswald the disableing root and system logons from accessing ssh is in ssh as well |
| 01:45 | Griswald> | I'd say just change the username root to somethin thats not root :) |
| 01:46 | ElfStone> | Griswald true |
| 01:46 | Griswald> | ElfStone: I know all your sayin, I'm just asking HOW to do it :) |
| 01:46 | You_Wish> | so leave root and su from newrootname correct? |
| 01:46 | You_Wish> | ic |
| 01:46 | ElfStone> | >.< |
| 01:46 | ElfStone> | lol |
| 01:46 | You_Wish> | got it |
| 01:46 | ElfStone> | lol |
| 01:46 | Griswald> | You say it's in ssh, but I mean... what do I \do\ in ssh ;p |
| 01:46 | ElfStone> | oh |
| 01:46 | ElfStone> | remote access |
| 01:47 | ElfStone> | Oh |
| 01:47 | ElfStone> | LOL |
| 01:47 | ElfStone> | in ssh |
| 01:47 | ElfStone> | su |
| 01:47 | Griswald> | lol |
| 01:47 | ElfStone> | the cd to /usr/sbin |
| 01:47 | * | Griswald nods. |
| 01:47 | ElfStone> | and chown su (put name of the account that you want to beable to access su) |
| 01:48 | Griswald> | actually, with mandrake (probably others) |
| 01:48 | Griswald> | it's "chown <account> su" |
| 01:48 | Griswald> | :) |
| 01:48 | ElfStone> | lol |
| 01:48 | ElfStone> | that too |
| 01:48 | Griswald> | lol |
| 01:48 | Griswald> | eh.. su = /bin/su ;) |
| 01:48 | ElfStone> | iwtf |
| 01:48 | ElfStone> | wtf |
| 01:48 | ElfStone> | O.o |
| 01:48 | ElfStone> | oh well |
| 01:48 | Griswald> | it's gotta be in bin |
| 01:49 | Griswald> | sbin is root only commands |
| 01:49 | ElfStone> | true |
| 01:49 | You_Wish> | you can do that in webmin also |
| 01:49 | ElfStone> | i wa sthinking or chown ing shutdown and shit |
| 01:49 | Griswald> | now, explain how to disable ssh'ing into root.... |
| 01:49 | You_Wish> | just disable the root from wemin config from ssh |
| 01:49 | ElfStone> | Servers->SSH |
| 01:50 | ElfStone> | there is a section on disableing users |
| 01:50 | Griswald> | You_Wish: Word of advice on webmin... shut it down when it's not in use by you |
| 01:50 | You_Wish> | k |
| 01:50 | ElfStone> | Griswald i can get you teh config file |
| 01:50 | You_Wish> | i can tell you where it is at |
| 01:51 | You_Wish> | from the webmin if you want |
| 01:51 | Griswald> | fudge |
| 01:51 | Griswald> | I forgot to fix my shell's code |
| 01:51 | Griswald> | so now it disconnects me whenever I connect into it. lol |
| 01:51 | Griswald> | thank god I have 2 other accounts I know the passwords too.... lol |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | atleast the shell does what it's supposed too.... |
| 01:52 | EFudd> | I found the source. |
| 01:52 | EFudd> | Member since: 1999-12-20 |
| 01:52 | EFudd> | Site: http://www.webyoung.com |
| 01:52 | EFudd> | that kinda sux0rs |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | |- Last Login | xeraweb.com |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | |- Current Processes | 4 |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | |- System Date | Sun Dec 28 01:52:37 EST 2003 |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | |- System Uptime | 4 days, 3 hours, 05 minutes |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | |- Quota | 0 Blocks ( 16652 Blocks Used ) |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | --> disconnected |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | lol |
| 01:52 | ElfStone> | Griswald |
| 01:52 | Griswald> | ElfStone |
| 01:52 | ElfStone> | in mdk it is /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 01:52 | ElfStone> | line 36 |
| 01:53 | ElfStone> | PermitRootLogin no |
| 01:53 | Griswald> | I see it now |
| 01:54 | ElfStone> | it shoudl say yes |
| 01:54 | ElfStone> | but cahneg it to no |
| 01:55 | Griswald> | yip |
| 01:55 | Griswald> | waaaay ahead of yeh |
| 01:55 | Griswald> | :) |
| 01:57 | ElfStone> | hehe |
| 02:03 | Griswald> | now to just fix my custom shell, and voila. |
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| 02:11 | Griswald> | !!! |
| 02:11 | Griswald> | [griswald@xeraweb griswald][griswald@xeraweb griswald]$ printf $TERM |
| 02:11 | Griswald> | dumb |
| 02:11 | Griswald> | !!! |
| 02:18 | Griswald> | finally... |
| 02:19 | Griswald> | rewrote teh shell code to the custom shell to execute bash, and finally, it works without seg faulting :D |
| 03:09 | = | jrm [~junior@adsli217.cofs.net] quit (Quit: Client exiting) |
| 03:24 | = | You_Wish [~You_Wish@adsl-068-209-131-003.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 03:36 | wap> | Morning |
| 03:48 | Griswald> | heya wap |
| 03:58 | Griswald> | [griswald@xeraweb log][griswald@xeraweb log]$ lastlog |
| 03:58 | Griswald> | /var/log/lastlog: Permission denied |
| 03:58 | Griswald> | anyone know the proper permissions to set on /var/log/lastlog? |
| 04:01 | navs> | 644 |
| 04:01 | Griswald> | thanks |
| 04:02 | Griswald> | ok, Last Login now shows properly :D |
| 04:02 | wap> | ;) |
| 04:04 | Griswald> | hey wap, check out http://www.xeraweb.com/amotd.tar.gz |
| 04:04 | Griswald> | :) |
| 04:16 | wap> | Griswald: did you do some modification to it? or is it the regular INAShell? |
| 04:19 | Griswald> | mods |
| 04:19 | Griswald> | fixed a few things (made it boot into bash, rather then sh, etc), and also added quota |
| 04:21 | Griswald> | then I renamed it to amotd instead of INAShell |
| 04:24 | wap> | Griswald: 'amotd' has a meaning? ;) |
| 04:28 | Griswald> | yeah |
| 04:28 | Griswald> | "A Message of the Day" :D |
| 04:28 | Griswald> | cuz, essentially, that's all it is :P |
| 04:29 | Griswald> | displays a motd, replaces variables in it, then tosses you into /bin/bash |
| 04:29 | wap> | ;) |
| 04:29 | Griswald> | :) |
| 04:30 | Griswald> | I only modded it to do some of that stuff due to the fact my customers wanted to know their limits, etc. ;) |
| 04:31 | wap> | Griswald: yeah, I read you yesterday |
| 04:31 | Griswald> | ahhh |
| 04:31 | Griswald> | :) |
| 08:03 | @caker> | morning |
| 08:18 | @adamg> | afternoon caker |
| 08:20 | @caker> | Hello Adam |
| 08:21 | @adamg> | this gentoo install of mine is starting to get rather big |
| 08:21 | @caker> | because Gentoo is big? |
| 08:21 | @adamg> | it is aboout 400 meg bigger than my debian one is with the same major apps installed |
| 08:23 | @caker> | right .. 270 of which is the portage dir, etc... |
| 08:23 | @adamg> | yeah |
| 08:26 | @adamg> | you also need about 500 meg free for portage to build things |
| 08:26 | @caker> | I didn't know that it required that much... |
| 08:26 | @caker> | crazy |
| 08:27 | @adamg> | well you do when you are building gcc |
| 08:31 | @adamg> | for some reason the default gentoo apache takes ages to respond to the first request |
| 09:08 | @guinea-sleep> | ooh. |
| 09:08 | @guinea-sleep> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 09:08 | sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 8/113 Current Level: 46 | Time to next level: 6 days, 12:55:56 | Status: online | Item Total: 458 | Total Time Idled: 38 days, 02:26:40 |
| 09:10 | sneakums> | oh god, there's g7 here too? |
| 09:10 | @guinea-sleep> | haha |
| 09:10 | * | sneakums flees |
| 09:10 | @guinea-sleep> | oh god, there's a sneakums here too? |
| 09:11 | sneakums> | touche |
| 09:54 | @adamg> | phpsysinfo isnt much use on uml! |
| 09:54 | @adamg> | http://adhaero.hat-technologies.ltd.uk/phpsysinfo/ |
| 10:01 | @caker> | you mean the missing cpu info? |
| 10:10 | @adamg> | thats better managed to remove 129meg of distfiles |
| 10:21 | @adamg> | sighup change 100 eur to gbp |
| 10:21 | sighup> | adamg: 100 Euro makes 70.10 British Pound |
| 10:23 | * | sneakums burn the Euro |
| 10:23 | sneakums> | aargh |
| 10:23 | * | sneakums sets the Euro on fire. |
| 10:23 | sneakums> | there. |
| 10:24 | @adamg> | dont use it and hopefully never will |
| 10:24 | sneakums> | you sure will if Tony Blur gets another term |
| 10:26 | @adamg> | hopefully that wont happen either |
| 10:26 | sneakums> | hope is a wonderful thing |
| 10:27 | @adamg> | that it is |
| 11:31 | @adamg> | caker ping |
| 11:40 | Griswald> | mornin fellas. |
| 11:40 | @adamg> | afternoon |
| 11:49 | * | adamg didnt realise how may top clones there where for different thigns |
| 11:49 | sneakums> | slabtop is fantastic |
| 11:50 | @adamg> | I use mytop, but am just looking at the network top ones |
| 11:51 | sneakums> | http://zork.net/~sneakums/slabtop.png |
| 11:51 | @adamg> | just looking at the home page for it |
| 11:51 | @adamg> | is it any good on uml though |
| 11:52 | sneakums> | i don't see why it's not be useful |
| 11:52 | @adamg> | and it is not in gentoo portage |
| 11:52 | sneakums> | UML kernels have a slab cache just like a regular kernel |
| 11:52 | sneakums> | it's part of procps 2 |
| 11:52 | @adamg> | emergeing ntop at the momment to see what it is like |
| 11:52 | sneakums> | Debian uses procps 3, so I just built it from source |
| 11:53 | @adamg> | well procps is installed, cant find a command called slabtop though |
| 11:54 | @guinea-sleep> | which version? |
| 11:54 | sneakums> | there are two forks of procps, versions 2 and 3 |
| 11:54 | @adamg> | 3.1.12-r1 installed |
| 11:54 | sneakums> | slabtop was added to procps 2 recently |
| 11:54 | sneakums> | i hope they add it to 3 |
| 11:54 | sneakums> | yeah, Debian has procps 3, which is why I built it myself |
| 11:55 | @guinea-sleep> | adamg: pay attention :p |
| 11:55 | @adamg> | pay attention to what |
| 11:55 | @guinea-sleep> | [11:52][11:52] <sneakums> it's part of procps 2 |
| 11:56 | @adamg> | I assumed if it is in 2 it would be in 3 |
| 11:56 | sneakums> | um |
| 11:56 | @guinea-sleep> | [11:52][11:52] <sneakums> Debian uses procps 3, so I just built it from source |
| 11:56 | sneakums> | <sneakums> there are two forks of procps, versions 2 and 3 |
| 11:56 | sneakums> | they're completely separate |
| 11:56 | @guinea-sleep> | oh i didn't even see that. |
| 11:56 | sneakums> | hence "fork" |
| 11:56 | @guinea-sleep> | but like i wasn't even paying attention, and i picked up on that :p |
| 11:57 | sneakums> | guinea-sleep: will you be my smooth buddy? |
| 11:57 | @guinea-sleep> | unable to parse that statement |
| 11:57 | sneakums> | :( |
| 11:57 | sneakums> | that's what you get for using yacc |
| 11:58 | @guinea-sleep> | that's what you get for using -q 2 |
| 11:58 | sneakums> | ha ha |
| 11:59 | sneakums> | yes, that's what I get |
| 11:59 | sneakums> | hella mega free diskapce |
| 11:59 | sneakums> | space |
| 11:59 | sneakums> | 4900 tracks in under 15 GiB |
| 11:59 | @guinea-sleep> | 3900 isn't enough |
| 12:00 | sneakums> | no where near |
| 12:00 | @guinea-sleep> | i love it when a .tar.bz2 is bigger than a .tar.gz |
| 12:00 | sneakums> | nowhere n ear |
| 12:01 | @guinea-sleep> | uploading the whole album at -q 5 |
| 12:02 | @guinea-sleep> | with a proper tag :p |
| 12:02 | @guinea-sleep> | and a creative commons comment |
| 12:02 | sneakums> | :) |
| 12:02 | @guinea-sleep> | now to get my friends to stop using musicmatch jukebox! |
| 12:02 | sneakums> | i'm such a sap that i'll probably buy it if I like it |
| 12:02 | @guinea-sleep> | haha |
| 12:02 | @guinea-sleep> | only $10! |
| 12:02 | @guinea-sleep> | actually |
| 12:03 | @guinea-sleep> | you can download the album, too. in mp3 :< |
| 12:03 | sneakums> | hurg |
| 12:03 | @guinea-sleep> | from them, for $1/track |
| 12:06 | @adamg> | ntop is intresting it is web based |
| 12:06 | sneakums> | i tend to avoid web-based stuff |
| 12:07 | @adamg> | didnt realise it was when I emerged it, does seem a tad ott |
| 12:07 | sneakums> | Web authors are incredibly adept at finding ways to aggravate me. |
| 12:07 | @adamg> | http://adhaero.hat-technologies.ltd.uk:3000/ |
| 12:09 | @adamg> | trying jnettop this time |
| 12:09 | @guinea-sleep> | sigh. i hate uploading at 13K/s |
| 12:10 | @guinea-sleep> | and -q2 vs -q5 is only 2:3.5 in filesize. |
| 12:11 | sneakums> | which is for e.g. 20 GiB versus 35GiB, for a large collection. |
| 12:11 | sneakums> | i know you folks buy 200GiB IDE disks like candy |
| 12:11 | sneakums> | but I don't |
| 12:11 | @caker> | no? |
| 12:12 | sneakums> | nope |
| 12:12 | @guinea-sleep> | i'm not to worried about my audio archive size |
| 12:12 | @guinea-sleep> | it's the videos that get me |
| 12:12 | sneakums> | i don't really have that much datur in the first place |
| 12:12 | @guinea-sleep> | //dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 |
| 12:12 | @guinea-sleep> | 151G 87G 65G 58% /usr/local/share |
| 12:12 | sneakums> | ha ha devfs |
| 12:13 | sneakums> | could it *be* any more ugly? |
| 12:13 | @guinea-sleep> | yes |
| 12:13 | @guinea-sleep> | but let's not get into that |
| 12:13 | sneakums> | aww, but i wanna! |
| 12:13 | @guinea-sleep> | only 18G of that is audio |
| 12:13 | sneakums> | although this isn't #tron, is it. |
| 12:13 | @guinea-sleep> | there's plennia room |
| 12:13 | * | sneakums checks |
| 12:13 | sneakums> | no, it is not. |
| 12:13 | @guinea-sleep> | we could make it |
| 12:13 | @guinea-sleep> | i am the channel founder :p |
| 12:13 | guinea-sleep | is now known as guinea-pig |
| 12:13 | sneakums> | haha |
| 12:14 | @guinea-pig> | only linode authorised clients allowed from linode IPs! |
| 12:14 | sneakums> | Oh? |
| 12:14 | sneakums> | How do you check? |
| 12:14 | @guinea-pig> | whois the IP? |
| 12:14 | sneakums> | I mean, the client. |
| 12:14 | @guinea-pig> | he's only got a couple blocks |
| 12:14 | @guinea-pig> | is it a linux client? :P |
| 12:14 | @guinea-pig> | how do *you* check? |
| 12:15 | sneakums> | wtf |
| 12:15 | @guinea-pig> | yes, wtf man |
| 12:15 | sneakums> | what are you blithering about? |
| 12:16 | sneakums> | is it just a bugzapper reference? |
| 12:16 | sneakums> | because if so, i have to say that i find it in very poor taste |
| 12:16 | sneakums> | VERY poor taste, sir. |
| 12:16 | @guinea-pig> | you know me |
| 12:16 | sneakums> | and boy, i wish i didn't. |
| 12:16 | @guinea-pig> | :D |
| 12:16 | @guinea-pig> | ooh. i hit 14K on my upload. i'm so excited |
| 12:16 | sneakums> | :) :) :) :) |
| 12:17 | sneakums> | by the way, how long does it typically take for RDNS updates to go live? |
| 12:18 | @guinea-pig> | I'm a xenophobic tapiocaphobe and a claustrophobic agoraphobe |
| 12:18 | @caker> | usually 24 hrs or less... Is your IP in the 66.220.1 range? |
| 12:18 | sneakums> | yes |
| 12:18 | @caker> | HE still hasn't pulled the zone from me yet (thats a new range) |
| 12:18 | sneakums> | ah, i did wonder |
| 12:18 | @guinea-pig> | stupid HE |
| 12:18 | sneakums> | when i got no PTR at all |
| 12:19 | * | caker pokes HE |
| 12:20 | * | guinea-pig peeks HE |
| 12:20 | sneakums> | NO ROM BASIC |
| 12:22 | @caker> | READY |
| 12:22 | @caker> | 10 GOTO 10 |
| 12:22 | @caker> | RUN |
| 12:22 | sneakums> | haha |
| 12:23 | @caker> | sighup: whois 66.220.1.1 |
| 12:23 | sighup> | caker: bugger all, i dunno |
| 12:26 | @guinea-pig> | throw out your brains. they're a disease. cut off your head. think with your knees |
| 12:33 | @adamg> | jnettop is nice |
| 12:40 | @adamg> | nettop is good is shows usage per app |
| 12:40 | sneakums> | there's a console thing called iptraf that i played with a few years ago |
| 12:41 | sneakums> | breaks down to individual connections, if I recall |
| 12:41 | @guinea-pig> | heh yeah |
| 12:41 | @guinea-pig> | i use iptraf all the time,to tell if i should bitch at my brother for eating up the connection |
| 12:43 | @adamg> | just emerging that one now to see what it is like |
| 12:44 | @adamg> | then again maybe not the emake failed |
| 12:44 | * | sneakums shabooms |
| 12:47 | @adamg> | a combination of jnettop and nettop seem the best and will look at iptstate better when I set-up iptables |
| 12:48 | @adamg> | any ideas> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable |
| 12:50 | sneakums> | means a continued transfer and you have all of the file, usually |
| 12:50 | @guinea-pig> | speaking of brother killing the connection... |
| 12:52 | @adamg> | for some reason emerge downloads the file, then tries to resume the download and cant so emerge dies |
| 12:54 | sneakums> | odd |
| 12:54 | @adamg> | very and a pain |
| 12:57 | @adamg> | sighup ping caker |
| 12:57 | sighup> | caker: ping! ping! ping! |
| 12:57 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 34 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: sighup: whois 66.220.1.1 [1072632200] |
| 12:57 | @adamg> | sighup port 1130 |
| 12:57 | sighup> | adamg: huh? |
| 12:58 | @adamg> | sighup what is port 1130 |
| 12:58 | sighup> | i haven't a clue, adamg |
| 12:58 | @guinea-pig> | unknown |
| 12:59 | @guinea-pig> | nmap doesn't know the port, at least |
| 13:00 | @adamg> | someone connecting from 66.132.32.20 is connecting to it |
| 13:01 | Griswald> | sighup what is port 1000 |
| 13:01 | sighup> | port 1000 is probably cadlock - cadlock |
| 13:01 | @adamg> | ? |
| 13:02 | @adamg> | sighup port 873 |
| 13:02 | sighup> | well, port 873 is rsync - rsync |
| 13:02 | sneakums> | mmm, rsync |
| 13:02 | sneakums> | now THAT cooks my emergency bacon |
| 13:02 | @adamg> | they originate on port 873 |
| 13:02 | sneakums> | very odd |
| 13:02 | @adamg> | anyone here using gentoo? |
| 13:02 | sneakums> | do you have something listening at 1130? |
| 13:03 | @adamg> | dont think so |
| 13:03 | @guinea-pig> | erm. your box has an open connection to an rsync port an another box, and that other box is a gentoo rsync server |
| 13:04 | @guinea-pig> | ... |
| 13:04 | sneakums> | ha ha |
| 13:04 | sneakums> | yes, that'd make sense |
| 13:04 | @adamg> | sounds about right |
| 13:05 | @adamg> | host12 seems to connect to port 80 as well every now and again |
| 13:10 | @adamg> | fecking apachetop ebuild |
| 13:10 | Artifex> | that's neat |
| 13:11 | Artifex> | sighup port 1 |
| 13:11 | sighup> | port 1 is, like, tcpmux - TCP Port Service Multiplexer |
| 13:11 | @adamg> | sighup port 0 |
| 13:11 | Artifex> | sighup port 99999999999999999999999 |
| 13:11 | sighup> | i heard port 0 was - Reserved |
| 13:11 | sighup> | Artifex: i'm not following you... |
| 13:11 | Artifex> | hehe |
| 13:11 | Artifex> | sighup port -1 |
| 13:11 | sighup> | Artifex: what? |
| 13:11 | Artifex> | sighup port 5389 |
| 13:11 | sighup> | Artifex: what? |
| 13:11 | Artifex> | haha, not so extensive! |
| 13:12 | Artifex> | sighup port 1024 |
| 13:12 | sighup> | port 1024 is, like, - Reserved |
| 13:13 | Artifex> | sighup port 28 |
| 13:13 | sighup> | Artifex: huh? |
| 13:13 | Artifex> | sighup port 5191 |
| 13:13 | sighup> | rumour has it port 5191 is aol-1 - AmericaOnline1 |
| 13:14 | Artifex> | sighup port 65535 |
| 13:14 | sighup> | Artifex: excuse me? |
| 13:14 | * | Artifex bores with sighup and wanders off |
| 13:15 | = | guinea-pig [orion@parsed.net] quit (Quit: bye...) |
| 13:15 | + | guinea-pig [orion@parsed.net] joined #linode |
| 13:15 | ~ | ChanServ set +o guinea-pig on #linode |
| 13:16 | @adamg> | wb |
| 13:21 | @guinea-pig> | oh dear. they skipped a version number in winamp |
| 13:21 | @guinea-pig> | that's evil |
| 13:22 | sneakums> | it's not that they skipped one |
| 13:22 | sneakums> | as such |
| 13:22 | sneakums> | they're all "2+3 - 5 :) :) :) :P)" |
| 13:22 | sneakums> | minus the P |
| 13:22 | sneakums> | also s/-/=/ |
| 13:22 | sneakums> | i'll get me coat |
| 13:23 | = | sighup [~sighup@webuser.thegrebs.com] quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 13:23 | sneakums> | hmm, my ssh hung again |
| 13:24 | sneakums> | this is annoying |
| 13:24 | sneakums> | maybe i need keepalives |
| 13:24 | sneakums> | oh, there it's back |
| 13:24 | @guinea-pig> | omg |
| 13:24 | @guinea-pig> | you're right |
| 13:24 | sneakums> | odd |
| 13:24 | @guinea-pig> | "Winamp 5 combines the best aspects of Winamp 2 and Winamp 3 into one player. Hence Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5!" |
| 13:24 | sneakums> | heh |
| 13:24 | @guinea-pig> | i thought you wre joaking |
| 13:24 | sneakums> | sorry |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | also haha |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | Minimum system requirements |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | * 500MHz Pentium III or comparable |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | Recommended system requirements |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | * 1.5 GHz Pentium IV or comparable |
| 13:25 | + | sighup [~sighup@webuser.thegrebs.com] joined #linode |
| 13:25 | @guinea-pig> | TO PLAY A FUCKING MP3 |
| 13:25 | sneakums> | hahaha |
| 13:25 | sneakums> | man, i love the future |
| 13:26 | @guinea-pig> | the future sucks. |
| 13:26 | @guinea-pig> | but you knew that already |
| 13:27 | sneakums> | yep |
| 13:27 | sneakums> | i'll keep you posted |
| 13:27 | sneakums> | on any new suckiness |
| 13:29 | @guinea-pig> | thanks, but i'll find out eventually anyway |
| 13:30 | @guinea-pig> | http://parsed.net/stats/mrtg/parsed.net.html <-- look what you did |
| 13:30 | * | sneakums stabs apache and/or mailman |
| 13:30 | @adamg> | managed to get an older version of apachetop to build |
| 13:31 | sneakums> | i sure spiked that puppy |
| 13:35 | sneakums> | speaking of spikes |
| 13:35 | * | sneakums stabs apache |
| 13:38 | @mikegrb> | http://adhaero.hat-technologies.ltd.uk:3000/ |
| 13:38 | @mikegrb> | frickn mouse |
| 13:38 | * | mikegrb waves |
| 13:38 | @adamg> | that would be my ntop stat thing |
| 13:39 | @mikegrb> | heh yeah |
| 13:39 | Artifex> | someone do me a favor and msg me? |
| 13:39 | @mikegrb> | it was gone |
| 13:39 | @adamg> | what was ntop |
| 13:44 | @adamg> | mikegrb ntop should be running now |
| 13:47 | @mikegrb> | that is kind of spiffy |
| 13:47 | @mikegrb> | by Luca Deri hehe I know a luca |
| 13:47 | sneakums> | on the second floor? |
| 13:47 | @adamg> | ntop? |
| 13:48 | @mikegrb> | ntop |
| 13:48 | @adamg> | it seems a but ott |
| 13:48 | @adamg> | s/but/bit |
| 13:49 | @mikegrb> | yeah |
| 13:49 | @mikegrb> | some of the stats seem nice |
| 13:50 | @adamg> | it is nice that you can see detailed stats on someone who connected |
| 13:51 | @adamg> | like host12.linode.com keeps connecting to port80 |
| 13:53 | sneakums> | do your web server logs reveal what it is attempting to access? |
| 13:54 | @adamg> | no |
| 13:55 | sneakums> | so it's just connecting and sitting there, not sending any requests? |
| 13:55 | sneakums> | that's pretty odd |
| 13:55 | @caker> | man nmap, the -sP section |
| 13:55 | @guinea-pig> | is that just the uptime ping? |
| 13:55 | @guinea-pig> | err, the is-it-alive thing |
| 13:55 | @caker> | yes |
| 13:56 | @guinea-pig> | one might think some people are too paranoid |
| 13:56 | @caker> | it doesn't make a full tcp conn |
| 13:56 | @adamg> | was only wondering |
| 13:56 | sneakums> | ah |
| 13:58 | @caker> | wtf .. someone is stress-testing linode.com |
| 13:58 | * | caker edits .htaccess |
| 13:58 | @adamg> | what are they doing? |
| 13:58 | sneakums> | i suggest you ready your boot and stress-test their face |
| 13:59 | @mikegrb> | adamg: that port 80 stuff is mentioned in the forums ;) |
| 13:59 | @caker> | flooding requests with agent "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Webserver Stress Tool; Windows); (simulated_by_Webserver_Stress_Tool) |
| 13:59 | @mikegrb> | sneakums: good idear |
| 13:59 | navs> | hey will it be possible to get a grsec enabled kernel |
| 13:59 | @mikegrb> | hahahahaha |
| 13:59 | @mikegrb> | caker: at least they aren't hiding it :) |
| 13:59 | @caker> | navs: not sure how difficult that would be with UML |
| 13:59 | @mikegrb> | makes it easy to eliminate them |
| 13:59 | * | caker looks up htaccess regex on user agent |
| 14:00 | @mikegrb> | caker: perhaps they are a prospective client too stupid to realize the web stuff isn't even in the same DC |
| 14:00 | @mikegrb> | oh well have to head out |
| 14:00 | @mikegrb> | cya |
| 14:00 | @caker> | l8r |
| 14:01 | @caker> | navs: I can give it a try -- some kernel patches don't work, or aren't easy to apply onto a UML patched tree |
| 14:01 | @adamg> | caker while your looking at the kernel, would the salinux kernel stuff work? |
| 14:01 | sneakums> | selinux? |
| 14:02 | @adamg> | that would be the one |
| 14:02 | sneakums> | iirc, that requires a full selinux-aware distro to be useful |
| 14:02 | navs> | caker: i will try as well |
| 14:02 | sneakums> | you have to build a bunch of security contexts and apply them to every file |
| 14:02 | @caker> | navs: awesome :) |
| 14:02 | navs> | ill send you the diff if i get it to apply |
| 14:02 | @caker> | cool |
| 14:03 | sneakums> | Here's the paper on Debian selinux: http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/talks/ols2002/paper/ |
| 14:04 | sneakums> | selinux makes a lot of cool stuff possible, though |
| 14:04 | @adamg> | yeah I was looking at the hardened gentoo project |
| 14:09 | navs> | openwall patch applies cleanly |
| 14:18 | = | navs [~svan@me-augustacuda1cable7c-62.agstme.adelphia.net] quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 14:27 | + | navs [~svan@me-augustacuda1cable7c-62.agstme.adelphia.net] joined #linode |
| 14:28 | navs> | any chance of getting openwall instead? |
| 15:31 | @mikegrb> | I want net bsd caker |
| 15:31 | @mikegrb> | I'll send you a diff between a uml kernel and netbsd kernel |
| 15:32 | @mikegrb> | yoou can work out the finer detauls |
| 15:32 | @mikegrb> | er details |
| 15:32 | sneakums> | hahaha |
| 15:33 | @mikegrb> | hey if everybody is getting kernel patches and stuff I want one too |
| 15:34 | @adamg> | well mike if you can write umb |
| 15:43 | @mikegrb> | My vote goes out LNX-BBC or Damn Small Linux for such a "live recovery distro". |
| 15:43 | @mikegrb> | inkblot++ |
| 15:44 | @adamg> | as long as it has fsck, dd, rsync ill be happy what ever is used |
| 15:44 | sneakums> | i do like the bbc |
| 15:47 | @guinea-pig> | heh |
| 15:47 | @guinea-pig> | it's like we're invading |
| 15:47 | @guinea-pig> | bbc rocks |
| 15:48 | sneakums> | Disclamer: I packaged some programs a year ago and promptly vanished. |
| 15:48 | sneakums> | I need to add mdadm, one of these days. |
| 15:48 | EFudd> | Hmmmm |
| 15:48 | @guinea-pig> | heh |
| 15:48 | @guinea-pig> | so i heard |
| 15:48 | EFudd> | hmmm |
| 15:48 | EFudd> | 15:32 <@mikegrb> I'll send you a diff between a uml kernel and netbsd kernel |
| 15:48 | EFudd> | 15:32 <@mikegrb> yoou can work out the finer detauls |
| 15:49 | EFudd> | ^^ Quoteable |
| 15:49 | @guinea-pig> | you got the stuff working you needed and left it at that |
| 15:49 | @guinea-pig> | heh |
| 15:49 | @guinea-pig> | you just quoted a quoteable quote. |
| 15:51 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:51 | @mikegrb> | :) |
| 15:51 | @guinea-pig> | sigh. i may as well spam here, too |
| 15:51 | @guinea-pig> | http://orion.parsed.net/audio/Jims_Big_Ego/Theyre_Everywhere/ |
| 15:51 | sneakums> | spammer!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:52 | @guinea-pig> | (http://www.livejournal.com/users/ah42/113272.html#cutid1 with my ...erm reviews) |
| 15:52 | @guinea-pig> | :p |
| 15:52 | EFudd> | peopl try to hack my lj account too often :/ |
| 15:52 | @guinea-pig> | hey, when they say "YOU CAN SHARE OUR MUSIC" i ain't gonna hesitate |
| 15:53 | sneakums> | watch them get signed to a major label and release an album laden with copy-corruption measures |
| 15:53 | @guinea-pig> | i only wish they'd re-license their older songs |
| 15:53 | sneakums> | but i'm just an old man |
| 15:53 | sneakums> | what do i know? |
| 15:54 | @guinea-pig> | ancient |
| 15:54 | sneakums> | oldy old sneakums, they call me |
| 15:54 | @guinea-pig> | and they felt they sold out when they had a show available through ticketmaster. |
| 15:54 | @guinea-pig> | but the venue shut down, so they didn't really sell out |
| 15:55 | @mikegrb> | heh |
| 15:55 | @guinea-pig> | they were still going to be on, until the venue's management realised they weren't a blues group |
| 15:55 | @guinea-pig> | and they didn't feel a non-blues group should close the venue |
| 15:55 | @mikegrb> | haha |
| 15:55 | @guinea-pig> | wish i could remember what it was called |
| 15:55 | @guinea-pig> | that blues club chain |
| 15:56 | sneakums> | ha ha chains |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | oh |
| 15:56 | sneakums> | do you have chains of chains yet? |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | house of blues |
| 15:56 | sneakums> | ihob |
| 15:56 | sneakums> | international house of blues |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | ehob |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | atob |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | oh |
| 15:56 | Griswald> | nuuuuuuu |
| 15:56 | Griswald> | don't insult teh pancakes |
| 15:56 | @mikegrb> | atob heh |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | oh |
| 15:56 | @guinea-pig> | you know atob too |
| 15:57 | sneakums> | did i say anything about pankcakes? |
| 15:57 | @mikegrb> | guinea-pig: I know of him |
| 15:57 | Griswald> | did I say you did? |
| 15:57 | @guinea-pig> | mikegrb: that's knowledge enough |
| 15:57 | Griswald> | random blurt of nonsense. ignore me. :) |
| 15:57 | sneakums> | good old Atob |
| 15:57 | @guinea-pig> | and, mmm pancakes |
| 15:57 | sneakums> | a legend in his own lunchtime |
| 15:57 | Artifex> | sighup ping caker |
| 15:57 | sighup> | caker: ping! ping! ping! |
| 15:57 | sighup> | caker was last seen on #linode 1 hours, 55 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: cool [1072638158] |
| 15:58 | @guinea-pig> | sighup: g7 gp |
| 15:58 | sighup> | #G7 stats for gp, the Emperor of New England -- 7/113 Current Level: 46 | Time to next level: 5 days, 15:08:37 | Status: online | Item Total: 458 | Total Time Idled: 38 days, 08:34:40 |
| 15:58 | @guinea-pig> | oh |
| 15:58 | @guinea-pig> | i already did that today |
| 15:58 | @mikegrb> | gees caker, it is k00l!!!11!!!1one!! |
| 15:58 | @guinea-pig> | [00:38][00:38] -bot- The light of the gods shines down upon you! You have found the level 79 Res0's Protectorate Plate Mail! |
| 15:58 | @guinea-pig> | :D |
| 15:59 | Artifex> | anyone here ever used fullpliant? |
| 15:59 | * | Artifex would LOVE to have a fullpliant linode :-D |
| 16:02 | @mikegrb> | Artifex: FullPliant goals: * Does not care about fun. |
| 16:02 | @mikegrb> | ummm no |
| 16:03 | Artifex> | yes, but... read on |
| 16:03 | Artifex> | it's rad. |
| 16:03 | @mikegrb> | interesting though |
| 16:03 | @mikegrb> | heh yes I am |
| 16:03 | sneakums> | oh, that's one of those horrible language/OS conflations |
| 16:03 | sneakums> | Smalltalk all over again |
| 16:04 | Artifex> | sneakums: erm, no, not exactly... |
| 16:04 | Artifex> | its basically just a very strange sort of linux distribution |
| 16:06 | sneakums> | I stand by my inflammatory snap judgement. |
| 16:06 | @mikegrb> | weird |
| 16:06 | @guinea-pig> | hmm |
| 16:07 | @guinea-pig> | i wonder how much of a tread is required to pass inspection |
| 16:07 | @guinea-pig> | they always talk about pennies and lincoln's head |
| 16:07 | @guinea-pig> | but i don't know which direction to put the penny in |
| 16:07 | sneakums> | <guinea-pig> i don't need tread, i just slide down snowy hills with the brakes locked! |
| 16:08 | @mikegrb> | geg |
| 16:08 | @mikegrb> | er hmm |
| 16:08 | sneakums> | I assume with this head pointing in. |
| 16:08 | sneakums> | er, his |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | oh, that's fine |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | http://www.reviewsonline.com/auto/TT03-1.htm |
| 16:08 | @guinea-pig> | yay google |
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